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How can I love and hate an episode so much at the same time /a/?
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You can hate yourself for loving such a shitty episode.
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itai
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Nico did nothing wrong
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Okada drama is always so fucking ham-handed. The character designs are really the only reason I'm watching this shit.
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itai!
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It's easy, the first half was good, then Okada drama happened and it all wen to shit
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It was like I was watching a mexican soap opera drama in anime format and was laughing the whole way through it. The final scene with them lying on the wet floor fucking killed me.
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>Entire premise of the show is based on feelings. >Feelings happen in said show.
>MAN FUCK THIS SHOW AND HOW IT FORCES FEELINGS TO BE DISPLAYED OKADA HACK

Your all fucking retarded. The episode and series in general is being handled very well with the exception of a couple scenes of some iffy animation.
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Tenga did nothing right.
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>***,254位/***,214位 (***,564 pt) [*,**6予約] 2016/06/08 Kiznaiver
shitposters on suicide watch

>b-but the sales are abyssal!!
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Itai!
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>>142536699

>implying I understand any of that
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>>142536699
Take your shitposting back to the STALKER threads faggot.
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>>142536551
>handled very well
Oh yeah, I like how they "handled" Nico and Masochist development by not giving them sceen time at all and expected us to give a fuck about them in the lat episode
>b-but they screamed and cried, it's so good!!
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>>142536692
Nothing wrong with liking best girl, you dip.
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>>142536699
>2016/06/08
>564 pt
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>>142536757
>>142536790
>shitposters are studio TRIGGERED
christ, you fags are fucking weak
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Eps 10-11 are being screened today in Japan. We probably won't get concrete spoilers, but better have your asses ready.
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>>142536692
he's the best one you dip
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>>142537200

I hate spoilers, why the fuck do they do these early screenings
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>>142536699
I'm so sorry anon.
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>>142536692
>Tenga is a bro they said
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Tenga was Homura tier wrong. Didn't follow his own advice because he understood how bad it was to force a relationship, Nico. Hurts best girl more when Agata followed his advice down to the letter because he didn't know better, hold her but cruel for doing so. Not entirely Tenga's fault but lets best girl watch in shock while he roughed up Agata infront of her who best girl protects him like he didn't do anything wrong. Which is the whole part that made the episode what it is, the other was blue hair girl in which her part in this is that but she wasn't the one who pulled the trigger.
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What's with Yaamada's underwear?
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>>142540622
He's into some weird stuff
>HS screenshot
>taken today
Why would you download HS when fansubs are out?
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>>142541235
>not knowing enough Japanese that HS are simply a guide
How much are Asenshit paying to do this every thread anyway?
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>>142541803
I do it for free, of my own goodwill. I just don't see the point of watching CR when the TLC is there.
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>waiting on non-spoilers Nips impression for episode ten and eleven
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>>142542346
I honestly can't tell if you're actually trying to shill Asenshi or you're a falseflagger with a grudge against them, but either way you should probably stop being an annoying fag.
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>>142537560
>spoilers
It's only the Nips impressions on the episodes.

During the 'Love Arc' one Nip wrote a spoiler for episodes eight and nine, and another Nip wrote a detailed spoiler before she deleted her post.

They are mostly anti-spoilerfags. Some Nips.
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>>142542541
Ignore him. Everyone have their perferences, it's trivial to derail the thread into CR vs fansubbers.
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>>142536801
I partially concur with this.

Niko as a character have been fine, it's her infatuation with Tenga that weren't handle all too well.

Hisomu have a connection to the prior Kizuna Experiment and Katsuhira, he is the only character, while I do like him, felt Okada didn't handle him well. He's given a few lines that hint at a mysterious past and then "Aahhh! I love that type of pain" he revert to his masochistic ways.
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>>142542914
You know there were visual cues indicating Nico's interest in Tenga. This show has been big on showing and then, later on, telling via Okada melodrama.
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Why does Nico have to suffer
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>>142543429
She is too pure for this world.
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>>142533404
This episode was way too good
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>>142543575
Said no one who wasn't shitposting ever.
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>>142542541
>probably
So you're not sure, eh? Good, that means I'm getting through to you.
And by the way, this is the first thread I've posted in all week, so you're confusing me with some other posters. Looks like you're the one falseflagging.
>>142542596
Having preferences for CR is akin to having the preferences of a streamfag; like "jumping shower", or strawberry - just gross. But you're right, whatever floats one's boat. I was just throwing the option out there, because why wouldn't you want the superior ice cream flavour, or translation for that matter?
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>>142543575
If something is "too good", does that make it bad? And are you even able to elaborate on why you think so, besides "I liked it"?
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The magic of Mari Okada
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>>142543773
>You could have the vanilla cone now,
>OR you could have the same vanilla cone but with sprinkles, 2 fucking days later

This is what you're suggesting.
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>>142543961
No, I agree. But don't the smaller things in life matter? Regardless, the original post had taken the HS screenshot today, when sprinkles are already out, and I was just baffled at why, that's all. I guess I shouldn't have been triggered so easily and derailed the thread, whoops
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>>142544256
No, I feel you. Typesetting and karaoke are delicious, and depending on who picks up a show, I might wait, but for the spoiler/shitpost fest of the season, that may not be viable.

Still waiting on Chyuu for Kuma Miko.
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Okay so I actually liked the premise of the episode, a mass emotional breakdown. It was obvious it had to happen eventually. What I don't like very much is that it was ALMOST entirely triggered (le pun) by romance. I think they did a good job with Maki the few previous episodes, your best friend dying is some serious shit. She also said "nope, I was right we can't be friends" during the chain-itai as her contribution so that's why I said almost. Also it wasn't clear if Kacchon had romantic feelings for Nori or just friendship and nostalgia, or both.

Basically I'm fucking pissed at the fact something weaksauce like romantic love is the focal point of their itai, they certainly didn't avoid that cliche at all. I can maybe forgive it since they're all teenagers and this is probably their first time experiencing it, but I personally got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one. Fucking ponder your own mortality, consider your purpose in life, have regrets (like Maki did)...

tl;dr not edgy enough to actually cause mass-itai imho
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>>142544622
What is itai? You write english very well so why the fuck do you use weeaboo words as if they improve your description on your thoughts?
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>>142543773
What exactly are the "orange flavors"?
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>>142544803
they said it ten thousand times, did you watch the episode? "it hurts, it hurts, it hurts"... Pain, specifically of the emotional variety.
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>>142544803
really
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>>142544803
>weeaboo words
Have you seen the goddamn episode? Or are you deaf? Your post is itai
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>>142544927
i watch a russian dub
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>>142543022
>You know there were visual cues
That's why I said "weren't handle all too well" I'm aware of the cues, notably in episode five, seven, and eight. Kiznaiver have done well with the character nuances. Alot of the other times, it weren't given the focus as, per se, Tenga x Chidori a more blatant example which is clear Okada'll make them OTP. You can disect every part of their scenes together from episode one to the present and easily tell. Niko's felt somewhat hamfisted and not organic as Tenga x Chidori.
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>>142544622
>wasn't clear if Kacchon had romantic feelings for Nori or just friendship
What kind of an emotion is friendship?
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>>142544984
"WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO CHIDORI, CYKA BLYAD?!"
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>>142545031
KATSUHIRA, GO AFTER CHIDORI NOW. RASH BEE RASH BEE FACKIN NOOB CYKA
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>>142544984
>VO
>Dub
No, you watched an unofficial voice-over done by some Russian weeb. Please be bait, for the sake of my itai
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>>142545027
Filial love, as opposed to romantic love. Do you not have friends? Family members at least? A pet? I bet you're the kind of person that wants to fuck his pet.
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>>142545128
Disregard that, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. This link may use more appropriate words:
http://totescute.com/four-types-of-love-greek-style/

Obviously it's centuries old philosophy rather than a scientific definition, but let's just call it a bromance. I have a best friend and he's like a brother to me, if he died I don't know what I would do.
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>>142545085
Russian dubs are goat lad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPSzPKJIJbg
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>>142545281
that holds up pretty well
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>>142536801
Sorry that you were too autistic to see that Nico liked Tenga. Everyone was saying that she was jelly of Chidori for a few episodes now.
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>>142545225
There should be a fifth type, the kind one feels when observing a stupid, unaware animal living out its self-centred existence in the zoo that is modern life, which causes you to faintly retch from the distanced awareness of disgust and pity you feel. I will never break bread with 3D, anime is enough.
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I love this show
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>>142543022
>visual cues
That doesn't matter. You need more than just "visual cues" to make sense of the level of angst resulting from it. But it's not just her, it applies to all the characters flipping out, because the show hasn't done enough to develop the characters and their relationships to the point where the level of angst makes sense.

The blowout seems really sentimental in retrospect, like something that should have happened further in the future. Show feels like it's on overdrive.
>I'm fucking pissed at the fact something weaksauce like romantic love is the focal point of their itai
This, it went the easy path with the shippershit and still bombs. I don't get Maki being sad about "we can't be friends" when they were never truly going in that direction.
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>>142545453
>Sorry that you were too autistic to see that Nico liked Tenga
Bullshit, it wasn't apparent at all. The show just pulled the development out of their ass. Yeah, "obvious", coming from the character that had next to no interaction with them together, much less with either of them alone.
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>>142545725
Okada always does this. She loves dumping all her load, which is supposed to span over the course of at least a few episodes, into one massive clusterfuck of melodrama that have the flimsiest of emotional foundations.
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Oh shit I remembered an important plot point. High (low? I'm no meteorologist) air pressure causes increase blah blah in the brain so therefore completely flipping out about your crush having a crush on someone else is enough to make you want to kill yourself. Now it all makes sense... Yeah...
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>>142545805
While it was far from obvious there were still indications of it The earliest was in episode 2 where Tenga was the first to comfort Nico about her secret.
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>>142545818
id love to dump my load into her
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So how fast do you think Yahoo Auctions ends up flooded with Kiznaiver Volume 1 discs and how low does the price go?
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>>142545805
>it wasn't apparent at all
Maybe you just don't watch enough shit, but when ANY specific attention is given to any main characters action, that means they're trying to tell you something
Like when Tenga wouldn't shut the fuck up about Chidori that one time and they cut to Nico's face saying "you really care that much about chidori"?
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>>142545715

Anime is getting really stupid with the random cross collaborations lately. Some of them are no brainers, others are just why and how could this possibly be worth it for any party.
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>>142537560

It's something Aniplex seems to insist on lately. I guess it's supposed to build hype and anticipation or something seeing as that's crucial to their business model of making terrible anime and convincing people they are good anyway
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Iteyo
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>>142546091
you're just mad kiznaiver is getting promotions like this
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>>142546252

Why would I be mad, it's not even uncommon, I just don't see many people going into a store and wanting to order Kiznaiver drinks even for a limited time only compared to say Love Live or Macross Delta or something hence calling it random.
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>>142546375
>it's all ice
Why do they do this?
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>>142545805
Sorry that you're too dense to understand basic visual cues, but yes, it was obvious that Nico liked Tenga.
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>>142536897

I'm expecting a bump for the first volume considering people have like 3 weeks to apply for the event now and they're doing some pre-screenings for the next couple episodes now. Granted you could fit maybe 100 people into that floor if you violate every health code in the book and just complete empty it out but there's obviously some damage control being put in place now at least for the first volume. After that fuck if I know but it's looking pretty grim unless they want to go full retard and add an event ticket to everything just to save face. Still even if it's underestimated by a whopping 200% that still wouldn't even take the first volume to 5K first week all versions include.
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>>142546404
so that you'll buy another drink
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>>142546540

I'm legitimately surprised that Kiznaiver is nowhere to be seen in the Animate rankings considering they're practically focusing the show around that stores clientele. I just have a hard time believing Aniplex and the rest of the production committee could have actually miscalculated this bad with a fujobait audience voice actor event ticket tie up show thing with a trendy studio like Trigger handling the animation as Amazon Stalker would lead me to believe. This is kind of their bread and butter after all, like this should be easily selling at least in the 6-10K range with what they've got in the package and the marketing that went into it.
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>>142544998
To be honest one could throw those "visual clues" into the show at the last goddamn moment and nothing would change because the two characters barely fucking interacted and don't click together. All for the sake of unleashing a wave of cheap drama from all sides by episode 9.
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He's not wrong to think this you know.

Seriously, he ain't even the same guy she lived for over a decade.
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Hello /a/. Can someone help me with a source name of this (from Okada bingo), please?
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>>142547102
>why doesn't she like a nice gentlemen like me
Tipping my fedora so hard for this brave soul.
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>>142547102
He's asking the same question /a/ had been asking since ep4.
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>>142547102
I don't think anyone doubts that Chidori's love for that bowl of mashed potatoes is ridiculous. But Tenga hasn't given reasons for her to like him, since he's been encouraging her affection while not being very helpful at all.

That's his heart speaking though so he can't help that. If he wasn't all "M'lady" on her, maybe things would have changed.
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>>142547156
Not Kiznaiver.
Go away.
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>>142547419
Tenga is at least outwardly less selfish than Chidori. He puts her romantic fulfillment above his desire for best girl.
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>>142547102
When he just blurted out his confession after that my jaw dropped. Absolute madman.
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>>142547419
Going full on m'lady is not the way of a gentle, albeit thugish, man like Tenga.
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>>142547419
I think you misread the situation
Tenga wasn't going to insert himself between Chidori and said mashed potato bowl, regardless, because it wasn't right.
If anything, he was hoping to be satisfied with getting them together, but when he realized that wasnt going to happen, but more importantly, that Chidori wasn't going to give up, no matter how rejected she got, it broke him.
As for Nico, it's pretty obvious where her line of logic goes. Tenga treats Chidori so well, she would like to be treated that way. He's a take-charge kind of guy that looks after others.

I actually think this will end in tenga and nico, because I think the next phase will be everyone actually confronting each other about their rejections, and starting to understand why each of them liked the others, and why they rejected the others, and actually sitting down and talking it out will probably make some change their minds about others.
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>>142547656
>but more importantly, that Chidori wasn't going to give up, no matter how rejected she got
And that's where Tenga's wrong. Hopefully he doesn't take his confession back when she inevitably moves on from tuna boy.
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Why is his old kizna mark missing? Did I miss that? Did he also not feel as much as everyone else in the itai scene? That's the impression I got after a second viewing.

While the path of peoples feelings all seemed believable (nicos could have been done better but it's still believable) up to this episode, It's getting pretty obvious they're going to put everyone off in couples at the end of the show. This means they're likely going to pair Nico with Hisomu which really doesn't seem as believable as other characters feelings like nearly at all.

Good ep and show tho
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>>142547580
Maybe but it caused him to behave more recklessly. A part of him doesn't even want that.
>>142547656
I'm not saying he would have jump right between them. I'm saying he hasn't been really helping her in a very constructive manner, being more a goofy big brother or a meddling white knight than a good guide.
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>>142547816
We don't know why his old mark is missing, sonozaki was surprised too
He probably felt as much as everyone else in the itai scene, but his pain was all from everyone else instead of directly his
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>>142547656
Most logical turn of events would be Tenga rejecting Nico like she wished instead of sucking up to her for shits and giggles or ignoring her altogether, Chidori finally letting go of Katsuhira (on good terms) and making up with Tenga (man was she blind to his feelings).
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>>142547798
no, this episode made it perfectly clear he wasn't wrong
the fact that even after seeing the guy all over nori, and feeling what he was feeling, she still wasn't giving him up.
What pissed Tenga off is that Agata not feeling anything for Chidori isn't what motivates Agata's actions. Agata doesn't care or notice.
But he cares and notices Nori.
Thats the kicker.
the friend that's been with him so long can't even get a proper rejection because Agata can't fucking fathom that anyone else's feelings matter.

Tenga thinks everyones feelings matter more than his own. He's basically the polar opposite.

The fact that Tenga blushed and got flustered about Nico suggests that there's something there too.

I think this whole ep was just a lesson in what childish first loves do t ruin you.
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>>142547919
>man was she blind to his feelings
no, she wasnt.
Unlike Nico, Tenga's feelings were likely fostered/created DURING their attempt to make katsuhira budge. It's entirely possible that he didn't even know he liked her until this ep.
Nico, however, clearly liked Tenga for awhile. She just wasn't willing to go after him, even when she thought he was unattached.
or maybe she really did pick up on Tenga's blossoming affection for Chidori, and that's why she stayed away.
It's about time for a Hisomu (I think was his name) ep.
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>>142547896
Oh that makes more sense since he's confused and lost while everyone else is getting hurt. Begs the question why Hisomu wouldn't be lost with him through this though, and Yuta but he could have taken Makis last remark towards himself pretty hard as well.

Actually after thinking about it he's proven to physically react much less than anyone else though so that's probably why at the end and Hisomu and potentially Yuta were being much more empathetic.
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>>142547920
Look at the preview for episode 10, you dense faggot.

Chidori won't be wangsting over Katsuhira forever and Nico is the biggest advocate for respecting other people's feelings - she'll get over the rejection quick enough, her crush is the most hamfisted shit there is.
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>>142548007
No, Tenga started developing feelings for Chidori once he saw her caring side, which was early in the show. By the time he offered his help he already liked her. It's literally the reason why he even bothered to play her wingman. The dramatic closeups to his face during that scene ("I don't mind helping you") were a dead giveaway.

The reasoning behind Nico's crush is hard to pinpoint in general. When and why did she start liking him? No one knows because she acts like a hyperactive retard most of the time and none of her very few interactions with him stood out.
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>>142548007
Are you retarded? Did you skip the moment when Chidori told Tenga he probably doesn't give a shit that their feelings are shared and broadcasted? Tenga said that even he has something he'd like to hide. That's right, the fact that he fucking likes her. He was very much aware of his feelings for her but Chidori focused on tuna boy at the time and couldn't see it for shit.
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are people in this thread really trying to downplay the pain a person can feel while brokenhearted?
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>>142547919
Who would Nico want to be rejected?
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>>142543429
>she has been felt love with the selfinsert of /a/
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>>142548704
Nico herself wants to get rejected because she's actually pretty perceptive and knows this crush will go nowhere.
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best pairings are still,
Tenga - Nico
Katsuhira - Chidori
Yuta - Honoka
Noriko - a cat or a flight of stairs
Hisomu - several large dogs
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>>142548823
>katsuhira - chidori
Haha, you're a funny guy
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>>142548704
As cute as she is I'd rather Nico be rejected by Tenga since it's clear Tenga has wanted Chidori for quite some time now, and Tengas feelings for Chidori seem stronger than Nicos feelings for Tenga. Chidori also has shown potential to reciprocate Tengas feelings if she wasn't so desperate to get Kachon back.

It wouldn't feel right having characters go oh well and be totally fine that their partner is just with them cus they couldn't be with the person they really wanted.

Honestly Nico and Hisomu should end up single imo, and I could even potentially see Kachon by himself at the end.

Everyone in couples seems a bit too pandering to me but what do I know they could really make 4 couples seem really believable by the conclusion.
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>>142548820
Thats pretty sad
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>>142548823
>Tenga - Nico
>Katsuhira - Chidori
Give them up already, they're terrible. Besides Nico x Honoka is the ending platonically.
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>>142548823
You have shit taste m8.
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>>142536699
Man, if only I cared about the sales of this show.
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>>142548823
Solid taste anon.
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>>142548975
Yeah but it's useful. Unfortunately you get it from being on the outside looking in.
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Man, if only I cared about any of the characters in this show.
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ITAI
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>>142549193
IT HURTS
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>>142549216
dakishimete
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>>142549025
>spoiler
So who's the non-platonic ending?
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>>142544394
>Still waiting on Chyuu for Kuma Miko.
They're not going to catch-up before it ends are they?
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this is unbelievable, people actually like this shit? people are still discussing this shit days past the episode aired? why? it's absolute shit. stop it. stop discussing this fucking trash.
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>>142549525
>stop discussing this fucking trash
No.
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Red will win the potato bowl. Count on it. Why she wants it is a mystery.

What is the point of osananajimi? They are built to be BTFO.
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>>142549685
>Red will win the potato bowl
Finally, another Tenga/Kacchon shipper.
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>>142549698
So how quickly would Chidori an hero if that happened?
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>>142549685
It's a meme for them to lose since every other story has one because they are love.
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>>142536809
>best girl
I fucking hate this retarded bitch. KACCHON KACCHON KACCHON KACCHON KACCHON
All she does is say kacchon every minute. I really want him to say "Yes, I'm Kacchon, what of it?", but sadly he's not Kazuma.
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>>142549772
It'll be "Hacchon" soon.
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>>142549871
>implying it won't be Tengkun
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So why does Chidori seem to dislike/be bothered by Sonozaki?
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>>142549913
DAT BITCH WANT MY MAN

I could probably go a bit deeper than that, but eh
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>>142549929
I'd say it's more MY MAN WANTS DAT BITCH BUT NOT ME.

I could probably go a bit deeper too, but seriously, eh
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>>142549772
She had to practice calling his name. One day he might have forgotten to look both ways before crossing.
>>142549913
I think she's just jealous of Kacchon favoring her, nothing deep. Have the two even really interacted?
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>>142549890
>>142549871
>implying it won't be just Hajime
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>>142549990
>fifty years into their marriage
>Chidori still accidentally called him Kacchon
>Tenga just smiled bitterly
>the wound on his arm hurts, but not the one on Chidori's
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>>142550008
You're sick fuck
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>>142550008
Fuck off. Feels itai man.
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>Kiznaiver focuses on shallow superficial romances
>Luluco calls shallow superficial romances worthless

That can't have been a coincidence right?
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>>142550008
kek
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I got vibes that Chidori is finally willing to give up. That is good, there is no reason to pursue a relationship she can't have.
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>>142550158
>EVER giving up the *bowl
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>>142550158

But she never told mashed potatoes she likes him still. Also who knows how the two autismos feel about each other whether it's romantically or just good friends
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>>142550410
>she never told mashed potatoes she likes him still
She probably did at that one time Kacchon had a supernatural resonance with Sonozaki and went out into the rain to save her from a falling statue.
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This show will never genuinely address the topic of sex despite it being the logical, relevant intersection between physical and emotional feelings.
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Where are the fuckin nips to post some spoilers for 10&11?
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>>142550091
As expected of the master, Imaishi.
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>>142551092
It's probably still too early.
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>>142551937
Maki is hot but her fashion sense is so shit.
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>>142551961
>caring about a girl's fashion sense

TITS OR GTFO
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>>142551961
But that is half of the appeal for her.
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>>142547419

>But Tenga hasn't given reasons for her to like him

His reasoning is the fucking same as Sekai from School Days, I'll try to help this person fuck the shit of the person they like, they'll obviously want to fuck me later.

While Tenga seems a lot more genuine towards wanting her to be happy, the logic is still there.
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>>142552234
Tenga loving Chidori was literally made up retroactively
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still no soundtrack?
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>>142552234
>His reasoning is the fucking same as Sekai from School Days, I'll try to help this person fuck the shit of the person they like, they'll obviously want to fuck me later.
The difference is that Sekai didn't realise she had feelings for Makoto until after she'd begun to hook him up with Kotonoha and they had already started dating. Only then the jealousy kicked in.

Tenga meanwhile hasn't succeeded in getting Chidori anywhere with Kacchon and already liked her while he was helping. He makes Sekai look rational by comparison.
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Not many spoilers about 10-11 on twitter so far, apparently it's very dramatic which was to be expected. But this one is interesting:
https://twitter.com/sakanasmile/status/740157958399483906
The Nico & Hisomu stocks have quickly risen (within me)
Nico especially is great as a person, just amazing
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>>142552540
Tenga's feelings were probably pretty casual at first. He might have thought he'd be able to help her "silently" and be happy for her. He most likely expected nothing in return.

The meltdown and rage in the latest episode were a side effect of the kizna connection, something Tenga could have never predicted. When you can literally hear your loved one's heart weep, it must be really hard to maintain your own calm.
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Can somebody add the track "noname" (the first part) from Kabaneri to the scene where everybody's scars start to blink and everyone screams "ITAI"? I feel like it's a way better match than the original song that was played.
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>>142552797
Apparently Tenga was great or something.
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>>142552797
So basically Nico BTFO, then
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>>142552915
DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>142552797

This guy >>142547816 fucking called it.
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>>142552797
Purple memer does something noteworthy? Color me surprised.
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>>142552797
I still expect Maki not to requite Yuta and him being understanding of her sentiments. She is tentatively on hold, so she can requite him by the conclusion of Kiznaiver. Unless, Okada opt for a Kokosake end.
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>>142552797
"Healing" the episode? Okada please.
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>https://twitter.com/chidori_wmd
This is the one who made that detailed spoiler tweet last time. She saw this screening too.
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How is this acceptable for 2 seconds?
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>>142545027
>Fucking ponder your own mortality, consider your purpose in life, have regrets (like Maki did)
except they're not that mature, because like you said, they are still teenagers. Maki seems like the more mature one because of all the shit she's been through. The others are not so unfortunate. You have to remember that they are still kids, not some 20 year olds that just got off of college. At this time of their life, romance and friendship seems like the more important aspect happening in their lives.
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>>142553339
Is that Maki and her girlfriend?
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>>142551961
The fuck are you talking about? Maki is easily the most /effay/ out of all of them. Sorry you like gaudy, clashing colors and can't appreciate coordination and subtlety.
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>>142536699
Anon, that's 565 pt and it's almost time for first week sales. to put that in perspective macross and kabaneri had 1000 pts by there 3rd episode and kiznaiver is on it's 11th.

It's a flop.
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>>142544622
I couldn't my complaints about the breakdown, but you did a pretty good job. While you may argue the romantic disappointment was big deal for them all, I don't think it would cause something this severe.

I also just want way more existential angst to fuel the itai.
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>>142550008
Better writer than Okada.
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>>142550091
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>>142550091
Luluco's final episode should be about Kiznaiver where Chidori falls in love with Nova-kun.
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Damn i dropped this a while ago but according to this thread even the few people who did watch this think it's shit, wow that's just kind of sad.
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>>142552465
I want the sad song that played after the itai scene. It was fucking beautiful.
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I loved how everyone pulled out the fucking knives.

I hope the ruined relationships last another episode.
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>キズナイーバーほんといい…!ほんといい!先行上映会やばかった。・゚・(*ノД`*)・゚・。こんなにも感情ぐちゃぐちゃにかき乱されるの久しぶり…たった2話で意識が180度変えられた。すごいなあ。
Second episode does a 180°
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>>142555555
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>>142556073
The person comes off like a tryhard fag who knows it shit.
>It's good, I swear!
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>>142556073
More like "in just two episodes my perception did a 180º"
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>>142556233
This.
>たった2話で意識が
means "in just 2 episodes, my awareness/perception..."
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>>142555555
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Everyone's talkig about Nico, Hisomu, Katsuhira and Tenga. Are the rest so irrelevant?
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Judging by this conversation:
https://twitter.com/tk6sun/status/740182889589932032
There's a scene with Tenga and Chidori where Tenga is very cool and manly and Chidori takes notice of it.
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>>142556381
Maki and Yuta prolly didn't give a memorable impression, during the 'Love Arc' a Nip commented that the two were the same as usual. So, that maybe the case here, they were the same as usual.

And, with Maki currently on hold, it is more likely Yuta love for her goes unrequited.
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>>142556638
Noice
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>>142556638
>Tenga mans up
Fucking finally jesus christ.
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I just watched this shit skiped episodes 4-8, and holy fuck that was just cringy as fuck, way over dramatic to the point it was comical, and all the characters are just as shit and you people swore they would develope.

And most of all the mc went from boring to just being shit, like i just hate them all, i'm so happy this is flopping
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>skiped episodes 4-8
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>>142558167
>skip half the show
>"What the fuck guys, this is garbage, I hate it"
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>>142558167
It's like you're rushing to fit in.
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Repostin until it'll stop hurtin
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Will Chidori finally move on?
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>>142549525
Why are you even in the thread whining if you don't like it?
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>>142558548
Obviously.
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>>142556638
HAPPENING.gif
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>>142558167
>skip half the show where the characters get development
>it's shit!

Literal autism
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>>142558548
One can only hope. But how do you suppose she'd go about it? Statistically, women are five times more likely than men to survive an attempt. Alas, the next episode reactions make it unlikely, plus they don't have enough episodes left to resolve a suicide.
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>>142558363
>>142558732
It's shitty bait. Just ESL mobileposting.
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> basement dweller, no understanding of social interaction
> virgins who can't talk to a girl
> "omg the characters are poorly developed wtf romance love okada a shit"

Yeah weaboos need to kill themselves.
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>>142558945
Who are you quoting?
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>>142555912
>Hold me like you did sonozaki
>How dare you hold me

You just can't win
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>>142559478
Should have held her like Sonozaki. Or said sorry and that he couldn't do that.
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>>142559478
this is literally women
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>>142545453
That wasn't the point at all. Other people already said it, but anyway.
I did see it, the point is that I don't care about it. Yes, she likes him, so what? What are her reasons? What are he thoughts? We didn't get anything, the sole fact that she likes him won't have any impact on me if I don't know anything about her.
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>>142559478
Because "hold me" didn't mean literally "make physical contact with me in a hug-like gesture"
She wanted him to feel about her the way he feels about Sonozaki, and embrace her the way he embraces the person he loves.

The actual hug was cruel because it just struck home how differently he holds her. She doesn't want to be hugged, she wants to be loved and he very, very clearly does not feel that way about her. Making it obvious, though unintentional, was just rubbing salt in the wound.
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>>142558945
Anon if you think actually relationships work like this then boi oh boi you're going to have a tough time once you enter high school next year
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>>142558945
You keep posting the same b8, anon.
Just give up, you won't get anyone "mad"
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>>142558312
>>142558363
>>142558732

Don't tell me you actually expected any sane person to sit through all that? I already know everything that happen thanks to these threads and people talking about how shit it was, why would i watch all of that?

I just skipped to episode 9 and what do you know, it's shit.
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>>142559478
Of course she wants him to hold her, but she wants him to hold her with loving affection, not in a shallow placating manner, you autist. That's why it's so cruel, it's like a mockery of what she wants.
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>>142559478
He should have listened to what she was actually saying and let her go. There was nothing he could do or say at that moment to make her feel better, so maybe later when she'd calmed down they could talk about it.
But Kacchon is autistic, you can't expect that much of him.
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>>142559949
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>>142559549
Why the fuck is he somehow obligated to reciprocate her feelings in the first place? That's what I don't get this episode, why these stupid kids seem to think that one's feelings deserve to be returned just because.

It's the same with Nico and her assumptions of friendship, where she thinks it's strict give-receive scenario, or Tenga's idea of brute-force to appease and appeal. But that's not how it works, much less it being a obligation of some kind. What thinly written two-dimensional tripe these characters are; forced drama, literally, just the show shoving its premade premise down the audiences throat.
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>that crying nico

Why did my heart have to break like this
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>>142559856
>She wanted
But what about what Kacchon wants? Why is she so selfish to burden him with her emotional outbursts?
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>>142559949
>I just skipped to episode 9 and what do you know, it's shit.
What do you know, I did the same with your post. 0/10.
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>>142560050
Kacchon isn't obligated to reciprocate her feelings, but he could have at least given a single fuck about her. She's been his friend for years and he just keeps treating her like a stranger he runs into every day, as if nothing would change for him if she just disappeared tomorrow.

I actually want him to go after his autist waifu, but he should at least pay attention to his friends.
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>>142560293
You make it sound like she's being charitable in her friendship to him. But he never asked for charity. And it's not even charity, it's Chidori doing it out of her own goodwill, and also her own self-serving reasons of personal affection. Which he didn't ask for either.
>he could have at least given a single fuck about her
>he should at least pay attention to his friends
That's being obligated to do so. Maybe not a strict one, more of a moral one, but an obligation nonetheless. But if he is supposed to have a moral obligation, where was Chidori's obligation to protect her friend of all those years from being bullied and beaten up yet again and again? Tenga, who's known Kacchon for weeks, has done more in that short time of friendship than Chidori has ever done, and he isn't even doing so for selfish reasons like "feelings", rather just imposing himself into the friendship. And of course Chidori objects to that from the get-go - what a friend she is.
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>I just watched this shit skiped episodes 4-8
> and all the characters are just as shit and you people swore they would develope.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>142556638
>Tenga is very cool and manly and Chidori takes notice of it
Why is she such a slut?

Any other spoilers?
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>>142536699
when did it get near the 200s?
I remember it was around 2000 or something, did the japs enjoy the latest episodes?
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>>142560140
Not a single character except Sonozaki actually gives even half a shit about what he wants. That's why red will lose righteously. She just projects her empathy onto a grayscale fuckdoll without ever considering that he might have something to say about it.

And just to make things better, because Okada's the one writing this, and because Kacchon is ostensibly the protagonist, the issue of why nobody cares about what he wants won't ever actually be brought up. Instead, they'll build off the latest episode and make a big deal out of how he doesn't understand what the people around him want and can't magically appease everyone and fix every other person's baggage for them. Even though that failing is completely mutual, it'll be written like it's the MC's fault.
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Nico is the best
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I haven't had this much fun watching an anime in a while, great show.
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>>142560779
How the fuck would they know what Katsuhira wants when he himself has a very vague idea and is unable to comunicate with them like a normal fucking person?
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>climbing inside the gym vaulting horse thingy to suffer

Autism
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>>142560897
Looks like a walking clown. Emotional maturity of an orangutan in a clownsuit. Fashion sense from one week of clown training. Moves like clownshoes on an oil slick. A fucking clown.
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>>142560972
>a very vague idea and is unable to comunicate with them like a normal fucking person?
That goes for every member of the cast.
The important distinction is that every single character constantly asks the world of him at every fucking turn yet none of them give a fuck about what he might want.

Chidori burdens him constantly with her emotional baggage
Tenga burdens him constantly with his vicarious feelings for Chidori and his desire to be NTRd
Maki burdens the whole fucking group with her issues and her constant negativity
And he's expected to constantly babysit the masochistic faggot

He's constantly being pushed around with "hey you should help this person" or "consider X's feelings" but nobody's in a hurry to help him or consider his feelings. He's just being pushed around and used by a bunch of emotionally frail crybullies who are all about themselves.
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>>142561142
you shut your whore mouth
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>>142560972
It's not about knowing, it's about attempting to know and understand, the thought.
And how the fuck should Kacchon know what Chidori wants, when she isn't able to communicate either? In fact, that's the point of the Kizu experiment, that sharing innermost emotions should resolve this issue
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>>142561178
But Katsuhira literally never expresses his own desires because autism yadda yadda yadda. He's also the least burdened in the group because he's got the emotional capacity of a broomstick and his pain threshold is bonkers.

It's more like HE burdens them all because Sonozaki and co are using and torturing them for Katsuhira's sake.
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>>142561301
I'm not so sure about pairing everyone up ending, but I predict now there'll be a happy end for the characters (except sonozaki might die) but kizuna experiment will be a failure.
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>>142561480
>Sonozaki and co are using and torturing them for Katsuhira's sake.
At some point you have to separate canon from headcanon, anon.
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>>142561301
>And how the fuck should Kacchon know what Chidori wants, when she isn't able to communicate either?
He should watch more anime or just open his eyes sometimes. Chidori is transparent and quite loud too.
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>>142561497
basically status quo ending
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NANI SORE
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>>142561533
>he thinks it's a coincidence Kacchon's in the experiment again and Sonozaki gives a fuck about anyone but him
Anon. For real.
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>>142561581
Chidori's problem is that she wants what she can't have. MC doesn;t love her, end of story. There's no solution to that, no fixing it, no way around it. She should have just gotten fucking over it 6 episodes ago and moved on with her life, but instead she continues to cause problems for everybody else by being clingy, needy and demanding to a guy that obviously does not and will not love her.

That's practically the main conflict in the show. MC does whatever other people tell him and always acts to please or placate others, but he can't make himself love someone he doesn't love, so Chidori's request is the one that he can't fulfill. But, despite that, and despite knowing that, she continues to be a burden and push herself onto him so hard that half the time the two are onscreen, they look like a restless married couple that've long lost the spark. She's pushy and controlling and he's a wet sock that can;t stick up for himself. Literally the most unhealthy friendship possible.
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>>142536692
Tenga is shit.
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>>142543429
Because Tenga have shit taste.
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I want to drink Nori-chan's piss.
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>>142561763
>the most unhealthy friendship possible
It's probably only sustained like it has because of them being neighbours and going to the same school. I can't imagine Kacchon giving a single fuck otherwise.
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>>142561763
Chidori's problem would be easy to solve if her love interest weren't a fullblown autist accidentally sending her mixed signals. One rejection is enough.

It's alright though, she'll move on by herself, because Kacchon is still hopeless at this shit.

And how the hell does Chidori burden the autist? By cooking for him and worrying for him daily? My sides, fuck off.
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>>142562304
Good riddance.
I hope she was smothered to death for maximum irony.
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>>142562304
She's a good girl who just wants to settle down with his cute childhood friend and give him a lot of babies and raise a little happy family.

Why can't she be happy ;_;
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>>142562405
because she was out-childhood-friended by Autisma
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>>142562181
>how the hell does Chidori burden the autist
By expecting something in return, like a needy selfish child. It's her own problem that her feelings developed into something, and Kacchon's supposed autism has nothing to do with it. Regardless of what singnels he may or may not have sent, the interpretation and emotion is all in her head at the end of the day, and thus her own problem. But that doesn't stop her from lashing out emotionally, making her problem everyone else's, like a whiny brat.
>worrying for him daily
Worrying uselessly wasn't enough to stop his ass getting kicked every day after school. Meanwhile, Tenga stopped that first time round. See the difference? One has value, the other is self-centred trash.
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>>142562181
>Chidori´s problem

Chidori IS the problem anon.
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>>142562487
When kacchon and sonozaki were talking about how much he thinks about her and she was on the ground cover her ears, my heart fucking broke.
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>>142562589
shes not
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>>142562487
>chidori's one advantage over nori-chan was that she's the childhood friend who knows the most about kacchon
>she finds out she wasn't even the childhoodest friend
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>>142562640
I would fuck the everloving shit out of every single cast member if I saw them as they were in that scene.
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>>142562695
Why would you rape emotionally distraught and potentially unconscious teenagers?
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>>142562629
Kiznaiver without Chidori

>Kacchon X Autistic Esdeath
>Tenga X Nico
>Fat X Edgy

See ? All the characters are happier now.
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>>142549525
Get out of the thread then idiot. Fucking edgelord.
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>>142562640
Those rain puddles with them all lying in them bothered me. They were crystal smooth, with no distortions or ripples from their chest heaving during breathing, or from the wind, even when they talked and their jaw moved and head vibrated.
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>>142562756
>Why would you rape emotionally distraught and potentially unconscious teenagers?
Weakness and cuteness turn me on.
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>>142549525
shit taste and retarded too
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>>142562628
During that scene I felt all warm and fuzzy inside. It was beautiful.
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Is this show worth watching for the visuals? All the screenshots and webms make it look pretty.
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>>142562818
>distortions or ripples from their chest heaving during breathing
they were close to being unconscious, i bet they weren't breathing really fast. also, unless the puddle is deep enough to cover half your chest you won't create any distortions just cause you breathe.
>wind
maybe there was no wind?
>even when they talked and their jaw moved and head vibrated.
did they talk much? or talk at all?
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>>142562923
it's worth watching, period. everybody just had too high expectations, it's average good
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>>142562923
everything except the writing is simply amazing
so far the writing is a bit uninspired
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>>142562923
it's typical okadashit, I always swallow it whole
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>>142562923
It's better than Mayoiga.
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>>142546134
Fuck off Tenga, Nico is mine.
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>>142562695
Even Sonozaki?
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>>142536692
Nah, I like him. but he was being a hypocritical bitch the whole episode
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>>142562511
Only trash here is you and your self-insert, faggot.

Weh weh Kacchon can't do shit by himself. You gotta cook for him, beat up his bullies for him, but here's the catch: don't expect appreciation or even attention in return. BECAUSE MAGICAL AUTISM.

Katsuhira is surrounded by proactive people now, but Chidori's always been like that, lectured him and provided for him 24/7, to no avail. She fucking jumped down on that falling platform for him in ep2. But yes let's defend the hopeless piece of dead fish.

Chidori also never attention whore'd. Her first reaction whenever she's upset is to hide and be alone. Do you know who makes everything about her then? Your value guy, TENGA. He riles up the entire group - that is not together because of fucking Chidori either - to find/help/whatever her.

Just how far up tuna's ass are you?
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So why does Sonozaki need injections of some kind, while Kacchon doesn't?
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>>142563180
Dying girls aren't my thing but her body is so hot I wouldn't think twice about it.
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>>142562923
Visuals and directing are excellent, writing is beyond abysmal.
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>>142563271
She did attempt suicide to take his pain.
>>142563230
At the point of the start of the series she should've abandoned him. Works out for everyone.
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Question : what are Urushii's links with Nori-chan? She looks too young to be her mother, but maybe an older sister, or something?
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>>142563271
The kiznaiver children are still kept somewhere.
Kacchon doesn't feel pain and his old kizna system seems disabled. Sonozaki still can feel the shared pain, so she has to take kizna-system suppressants.
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>>142564078
Wonder if they all are varying degies of autist
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>>142536551

yes it's about feelings, but they're not doing a good job at that or at character development
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A kind /a/non to post picture of best girl in swimsuit? already saw it but didn't download it
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>people in this thread actually defending Tenga
Tenga is a fucking retard.
Yeah beating Katsuhira up is totally reasonable.
>I love Chidori but Chidori loves Katsuhira but Katsuhira doesn't react to her so better beat him up.

Fucking retard what did he expect Katsuhira to do? Did he sleep the entire time and miss that Katsuhira has the social intelligence of an asperger?
Tenga is a fucking ape and Chidori a whiny bitch. Those two worst characters are indeed a good pair.
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>>142568498
And this, anon, is why I did nothing wrong.
You get it now?
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>>142568550
So you think a retard has the right to act retarded? I guess i'm okay with that doesn't make it any less retarded though.
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I always say hotheads are faggots
Yuuta best boy
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>>142567065
With best girl you mean girl who is completly focused on her own feelings, so focused that she can't even see that struggle of the one she loves but still drags him around and has a breakdown when it seems he doesn't love her?

Seems more like a "worst girl" type of character to me.
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Just decided to join the season.
Should i pick this up?
is there/will there be any romance?

Should i pick Re:zero?
is there/will there be any romance?
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>>142568972
There is romance, but it's teenagers being dumb about it
Re:zero has a little but it's more about suffering
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>the same studio made a fun of her drama
>at the same week
Will Okada ever recover from this?
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>>142569030
>spoonfeeding retards
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>142569030
Thank you kind /a/non

>>142567065
Not a great picture, but takashiro is top tier
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>由多牧の距離感が好き 仁子牧の距離感も好き 穂乃香ちゃん…すごい…
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>>142569030
No i wouldn't even call it romance.There are some romantic feelings as in character x likes character y but it's not really the focus. This experiment and the psychological aspect is the focus so i wouldn't even call it romance.

To be honest the romantic aspects are extremly annoying. They slow down the plot i want to know more about what happened and not Chidoris whining.
And the "romance" is also extremy shounen if you know what i mean.
>oh no that girl knows him longer than i have better have a breakdown about it
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>>142569280
was that spoonfeeding?
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>>142568498
As much as he unreasonably chomped out, I would snap if this bitch kept trying to fuck autist.
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>>142569384
You don't understand Anon. Do you know why most people here are so superior when it comes to their understanding of anime compare with all other anime communities?

Because we train the people here to think for themselve. We don't the questions of newfags especially when they're dumb or lazzy ones.

That way people are forced to research themselve,started using image reverse search(you would be suprised how many people don't know about it) and so on. So that way they're trained but at the same time it is a filter for retards who can't do that. Eventually they go away to other inferior communties which answer every question.

So what you did with your answer. You gave information which can be found with google in 5 10 sec. You literally spoonfeeded him.
So that individual is now not trained and maybe even retarded.

So pls Anon....next time just ignore and insult a newfag who can't use google. Keep /a/ superior when it comes to understanding of anime.
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>>142569849
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>>142569849
>this entire post
I'm sorry anon, I won't do it again
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>>142566797
They might. Or they might be completely normal.

I kind of wanna see a grand reunion of the previous kids and see Kacchon be suddenly much more normal than otherwise and super buddy buddy, kind off like how he's much more sociable and normal when Sonozaki is around.

Man, imagine how butthurt the new group would be upon seeing that.
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>>142569513
Well but it's not asperger-kuns fault. I mean Tenga could literally say "Don't come near Chidori" and Asperger-kun would do that.

Asperger-kun is in general way to busy actually learning about everything and advancing the plot to care about Bitch-chan.
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>>142569849
is this pasta?
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Sonozaki Besto
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>>142536551
/a/ doesn't seem to understand that teenagers don't know everything.
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>>142536699
Honestly even if it was at 10000 copies we'd get those shitposters.
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>>142545715
Kacchon drink looks awful, 0/10 would not buy.
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>>142558502
Where's the full chart?
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>>142572508
kinda looks like a blended cookies and cream shake, which would be 10/10
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>>142572734
Looks like blended concrete, t bh.
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>>142572734
It's a shitty sesame milk drink.
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>>142563230
>don't expect appreciation or even attention in return.

But that's exactly what he does for autisma anon

Because he actually gives a fuck about her
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>>142547156
M3 sonno kuroki hagane.
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>>142559856
hello femanon.
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>>142562795
what about masochism-kun
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>>142546375
Post the Macross one.
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>>142563230
/a/ is full of kids with self-centered ungrateful faggot mentalities. Through this protagonist, they can live out lives of being oh so special, getting their asses wiped, and everyone is obliged to understand them (until it all becomes "inconvenient", then others have to take a hike), but offer nothing in return themselves.

That's not exactly the MC's mentality, just that of self-insertfags and shippers.
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>>142559999
Quads tell the truth
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>>142575158
There isn't a single character in this show who does more for others than MC. He's literally the most selfless character in the show.
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>>142575321
Yeah and he's also like a goddamn robot because he has a hard time into understanding others.

But I wasn't speaking badly of him so I don't know why you ran to his defense.
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>>142568498
>nu male
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>>142575158
You're probably right. MC doesn't seem like the self-insert type of character.
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>>142575532
How many "greek alphabet" males are there?
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>>142562304
JUST
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>>142575883
>>>/v/
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>>142575678
alpha beta gamma delta omega are the personality types
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>>142576122
So then what the fuck is nu?
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>>142576301
A buzzword. Ignore it and ignore posters that use it.
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>>142576024
J U S T
U
S
T
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Trigger faggot here, is this shit good? it looks generic as fuck but i might be wrong.
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Sonozaki is a cocktease.
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>>142576417
No, fuck off back to Luluco and KlK silly "Trigger faggot"
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>>142576417
I was under the impression that Trigger fans will call anything Trigger puts out a 10/10 perfect anime.

It's alright.
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>>142576446
Funilly enough i just finished marathoning Luluco, it was alright, it was cute enough to be enjoyable.
>>142576517
Not really, besides a few things there and there, i really didn't enjoy ninja slayer, and even if i loved KLK, it's still a 7.5 to me.
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>>142576417
Great aesthetics and directing, and as you can see the writing is very divisive. It might suit your it might not. I think the writing is god awful but I find myself watching every week so it must be doing something right.
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>>142536809
"Best girl" was too stupid to realize the amount of stress and pressure Kacchon was going through when he fucking realized what feeling emotion was like. She made everyone feel like shit including the guy that just learned what it is.
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>>142576675
>ripping on Chidori while using her pet name for him
Every time.
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Boom Boom Satellites and the opening animation, they're so good. The show itself is not bad at all, but pretty mediocre. It doesn't deserve them.
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>>142576962
Because kacchon takes less to type and say than katsuhira
>>142576968
Boom Boom Satellites died for this
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>>142576622
Sounds interesting, i'll watch a few episodes and see how it goes, i dont see why not.
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>>142577045
Also because I wasn't sure how to spell it properly and I didn't want to google it.
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I didn't know Nico likes Tenga until they told me so, forced drama much?
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>>142579080
nah just stupidly subtle.
After re watching I could see it
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>>142579143
Same here. Check ep. 4 again.
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>>142541235
Why would I use shittier subs?
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>>142577086
The writing is actually fine. It has a very high rewatch value on account of the stupidly subtle stuff. I.E. Nico x Tenga
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>>142579080
You just have a bad case of stupid
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>>142576675
Not her fault some crazies led by her rival connected her mind and emotions to the others.
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>>142533404
Has anyone actually made a good argument as to why the writing is bad apart from "muh okada melodrama"
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>>142579291
>TLC
>shittier than "professional" subs
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I don't get the Chidori hate. How is it her fault some guy she has 0 interest in chimped out?
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I need more suffering Nico images
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>>142579354
Rude.
>>142579080
No worries Anon, I did not notice it either., nor did the guys and gals at muh college's anime club. It was designed to surprise us.
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>>142579474
go back to your IRC circlejerk over your liberalized memesubs
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>>142579293
I think the writing is actually very good. I don't know many shows that can make a scene like the one at the end of 10 have that much impact with nothing but some teen love dramas.
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post more best girl
i mean nico
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So what's going on?

Why MC feels the pain of the worst girl, but not the others?
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>>142579500
Tengafags like deflecting the blame. They're probably also the type of people who think they're entitled to pussy for being a decent human being/ nice to a girl.
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>>142579607
Baseless assumptions. Nice strawman.
>be professional subber
>fuck up worst than the supposed meme subs
Must be embarrassing
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>>142579534
It's not completely obvious, but it makes sense now that we know. The way she acts towards him and chidori makes it pretty clear that romantic feelings could potentially be present. Are you actually so meatheaded that you need some scenes shoved in your face where she looks away and blushes or some shit?
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>>142579534
>nor did the guys and gals at muh college's anime club
How are you guys enjoying kabaneri and re zero?
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>>142569350
She didn't have a breakdown or even whined. They're connected by some bullshit magic so they feel whatever she feels, and the connection is getting stronger.

She was confessing and he ran off on her which obviously upset her. Tenga went ape and turned it into a bigger situation that it was. If anything she looked ready to give up. But was dragged around by Tenga and Nico.
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Ayyyy.
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>>142579179
What was I supposed to see? Her sitting next to him on the bus?
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>>142580301
2deep
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>>142576417
It's bad. It begins with a promise of a story, but it turns out there's none. Characters are a hit-or-miss, I doubt you'll end up liking even half of them. Also, best girl suffers. I'm scared to watch the most recent episode.
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>>142568908
Is that Ragyo?
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>>142568908
That's some crazy interpretation of events you have there.
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This show is so apathetic and the girls so shallow not even doujin artists want to draw porn of it.
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>>142580555
Don't you want them to experience the pain of breaking the hymen 3 times?
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>>142580663
You mean 2 times.
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>>142580436
If we can share the pain together then maybe it'll hurt less, anon
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>>142580555
It's more like their designs are all so painfully average, other than Nico.

You could probably find several Honoka, Chidori, Sonozaki lookalikes by just randomly going through hentai.
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>>142580731
Indeed.
Honoka=Kiryuu Moeka
Chidori=boobless Yoko
Sonozaki=Esdeath
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>Plans for world peace
>Can't get positive emotions to work
>Shares negative
>Failed with kids, negative emotions fucked everyone up
>Try again on high schooler
>Negative emotions fucked everyone up

>"Finally my project will get the greenlight it needed!!!"

And they said the writing was good.
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>>142569350
I think it's intentional that there's a slightly mechanical edge to their romance seeing as it's all being forced by the kizna scientist people.
>They slow down the plot i want to know more about what happened
The show isn't for you, then. Kizna is a character driven drama, the specifics of the connection aren't the focal point at all. I doubt they'll even fully explain it in the end.
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>>142580436
>people actually would prefer the meme science behind it all to be explained rather than have characters be the main point
I wonder how many of the shitposters are actually just shounenshits who were expecting MUH POWERS MUH SUPER SCIENCE
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>>142549731
Hopefully right away, and my Chidori hate squad can rejoice. I'd piss on con merchandise of her if it didn't mean being arrested and having to waste a moment on someone as terrible as her.
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>>142550008
Would watch
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>>142551937
>Tenga's manpurse
What did he mean by this?
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>>142562405
>Mother hen and rooster

OKADAAAAAAAA
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>>142582754

>Girl does literally nothing wrong
>Attracts a super autist hater

landwhale femanon?
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This was a fucking good episode but it broke my heart, poor girls. This show's sweet.
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>>142582754
>Girl fall in love.
>Girl's crush has another, is heart broken.
>Usually can hide this, but everybody is sharing by magic, can't hide it.
>Tried to look at it positively.
>Realise she's leagues behind on the MC race.
>Falls to despair.
>Try to hide this, but because magic.
>Tries to escape from all this magic, mc catches up.
>Mc heard her inner voice because magic.
>Magic made what she was feeling even worse.

Litlerally fucked by magic.
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>>142583863
It's Tenga's fault
>Want to deal with it privately but can't because magic sharing lets others know
>Tenga starts chimping out
>mad scientist start toying with them by showing a live feed
>Try keeping it inside despite getting rejected minutes ago
>Magic lets others know
>Tenga goes full ape
>Want nothing to do with any of it
>Nico goes /r9k/ and blames Chidori for Tenga's actions despite her having nothing to do with Tenga
>Has no choice but to go
>Sees what she didn't want to
>Leaves to deal with it privately
>Tenga goes Silverback and makes the autist follow
>Autist grabs her
>She repeatedly tells him to let her go
>Magic sharing starts sharing subliminal desires
>Autist listens to voice and hugs her despite her protest
>Realizes he fucked up and hurt her more
>Tenga reaches his final evolution and goes guillotine gorilla on the autist
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>>142579694
That's thanks to the directing not the writing.
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Anyone know what happens in 10&11?
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>>142584416
Yeah I'll know in a week or two, I'll get back to you on it.
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>>142584416
Chidori becomes even quieter and ignores the rest of them. Maki bonds with her as they push everyone else away.
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>>142584416
Maki and Nico lez it up, Hisomu becomes the main character.
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>>142583800
Trying too hard anon. Tone it down a bit.
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>>142585016
This was a great episode but it made me sad, poor girls. This show's nice.
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>>142558502
ITAI
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>>142560897
>>142561065
What went wrong?
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>>142585400
Tenga was a little bitch and sonozaki stole her confession
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>>142585400
Okada shoehorned an unnecessary crush outta her ass into an already dramatic setting.
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>>142584416
According to nips:

Nico and Hisomu do something. Nico is a good person.

Tenga acts all cool and manly in front of Chidori and she finally notices his qualities.

Not much, because nips are fucking pussies.
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The fact of the matter is that if a show can cause this much discussion its worth watching.

I personally love cracking a couple beers and watching this shit, makes me almost cry everytime.
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>>142584416
prepare your /u/-boat
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>>142585949
>Tenga acts all cool and manly in front of Chidori and she finally notices his qualities.
least believable of all the fake spoilers.
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>>142552880
How would this show be different if Sawano did the soundtrack?
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>>142585990
yeah, right now only things worth discussing is this re:zero and mayoiga and big order for the memes. everything else is either SoL or shit.
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>crushes are revealed
>characters writhe in pain on the ground saying "it hurts, it hurts" repeatedly

I'm sorry but that scene was just fucking silly. This show finally reached my limit for ridiculous melodrama.
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>>142579513
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>>142586347
The mark was bringing their subliminal emotions to the front and spreading it around which started a domino effect of gloominess and pain.
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>>142560050
I'm pretty sure they're purposefully embracing tropes in order to drive home the fact that they're basically being told how to act by the kizna people. I mean we even had stuff like the "go after her" thing, grabbing hand in the rain etc, which was likely intentional seeing as this show has been pretty aware and tactul of cliche use so far. There's even a scene in epiosde 7 (I think) where someone says to Maki that having a character die of a mysterious illness is overdone, to which she says "who cares if it's overdone? It's true". They obviously aren't just using them to fill in the gaps or whatever.
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>>142586347
>pain is relayed to all of them
>nearly all of them are feeling lots of pain at the same time
>ITAI
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>>142586347
How are we 10 episodes in a people still don't understand how the connection works
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>>142586762
>10 episodes in
Have I somehow missed a week?
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>>142586801
Include episode 0
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>>142560050
He isn't obligated to and no one other than Tenga thinks he is. When you can't even understand what you're watching it makes it hard to care about the rest of your post

Though it's clear you're an autist who has a childishly idealistic view on what friendship is.
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>>142586801
>he didn't watch the cast introduction episode
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>>142586559
>>142586753
>>142586762

Yeah I get that the Kizna system was making things worse but it's still just the disappointment of unrequited love they're dealing with, it's ridiculous how over-the-top that scene was for some teenage crushes not panning out.
>THE COLLECTIVE PAIN OF THIS LOVE POLYGON NOT WORKING OUT SHIT IT HURTS SO MUCH
Really damn cheesy.
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>>142586828
Autism has nothing to do with not understanding feelings. You're the idiot.
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>>142586817
>>142586845
>pre-broadcast episode
>part of an airing season
It won't even be on the BDs
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>>142586880
>Chidori loved Tuna for long time
>too dense to realize he has no emotions
>finds out he's interested in someone else
>jealous as fuck
Obviously she felt hurt. She even confessed to him near the beginning of the show, for fucks' sake.

>Nico upset at both the fact that Tenga dloves Chidori more than her and that the friendships are going to fall apart
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>>142586880
There we other elements. Maki almost getting over her fucking dead friend and opening up again only to have to it taken away from her immediately probably did a lot to up the itai. Not to mention they're probably fairly stressed out by the fact that they're literal guinea pigs in an experiment looking to toy with their emotions 24/7. Not to mention they're like 16. Seems pretty believable to me. What would you have preferred?
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>>142586880
>it's ridiculous how over-the-top that scene was for some teenage crushes not panning out.
It was more than that. Nico's red truth was about Tenga but she was talking about them being friends in general. Maki, feeling the same emotional pain as them because of them, hit a low and got depressed bringing her own pain into it. Then she both said and thought deep inside they can't be friends. Which in turn keeled everyone else over as they kept resonating and building upon the pain.
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>>142586936
Well I'm glad you're so upfront about your condition asperger-coon. It's no wonder you have such a hard time understanding anime.
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>>142587024
I feel like you punched me in the mind with that post.
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>>142586936
Isn't not being able to understand and interpret facial expressions one of the key components of autism? That's kind of the same as not understanding feelings.
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>>142587024
>Chidori is Envy and Wrath
>Tuna is Sloth
>Hisomu is Lust
>Tenga is Pride
>Nico is Greed?
>Maki is ?
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>>142586971
>What would you have preferred?

I would have preferred that Tenga drop that basic bitch Chidori and fuck the shit out of Best Girl Nico like any rational man would do in that scenario.
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>>142587162
He will. Don't worry anon
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>>142587024
which none of them fit and was said so by the person who brought it up in the first place.
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>>142586124
Those spoilers are real, from the same people who provided spoilers for the love arc.

Tenga apparently redeems himself and has scenes with Chidori.
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>>142533404
Anyone else wish they'd just not introduced massochist fag and used those episodes to build up the other characters a bit more? He was pretty much completely pointless in this whole climax seeing as he had no love interest, so he ended up just being a deadweight dud. Why even write him in
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>>142587162
>assblasted Nicofag
Into the trash your posts go.
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Can I get a cap of Nico's face when she gets called out on liking Tenga
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>>142587273
Now someone make a webm
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>>142580301
lmao
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>>142586421
This scene when Tenga gave her the jumper is my favorite part of the whole show so far

got me feeling comfy af
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>>142586421
delete this fucking terrible drawing
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>>142587441
Are you fishing for (you)s? It's a nice picture.
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Anons would you participate in project kiznaiver? Forced to make friends with 6 random people through a variety of strange activities...
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>>142587151
tenga is wrath and maki is pride
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>>142587462
It's just a badly drawn deviantart tier shitpile that's barely even reimagining the scene. There's nothing good about it.
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>>142586971
I wrote what I'd like to see >>142544622
I do accept Maki's contribution to the ITAI as a step in the right direction, but yeah we have 7 characters here and they didn't even scratch the surface of the angst that is the human condition. Sure they're teenagers so it's believable they aren't yet worried about dying and overly worried about romance, but even so there are some other stuff they could've used. Insecurity (Nico to an extent but not really, it's still specifically unrequited love), bullying (Kacchon, the only person that doesn't give a fck about pain was the only victim of bullying, and that is probably the main cause of teenage suicide), being poor (how about someone losing their home in the typhoon? also maybe family members/other friends dying in the typhoon while we're at it?), etc etc.

Also during the Maki arc they made sure to mention the emotional pain is split in intensity 7 ways as well. That means for all of them to be writhing in ITAI they would need to total up 7 debilitating traumas but Kacchon and Hisomu didn't really add much at all. Yuta was dissapointed about Maki's regression into loneliness but he didn't particularly contribute either.
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>>142587563
If it was actually split 7 ways evenly most of the thing that have them all yelling ouch wouldn't hurt
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>>142560676
>where was Chidori's obligation to protect her friend of all those years
What was she supposed to do, jumped in there and beat them up? You don't even know she's already tried seeking help on top of pleading him to stop letting it happen, to no avail.

Tenga made progress because he's a headstrong and direct 'go for it, don't think about it' kind of guy. He beat away the bullies like a big brother would but that didn't magically turn Katsuhira into a person that won't allow himself to be bullied. Actually coming to understand how Chidori felt about it did.
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>>142587563
So you're telling me that being forced into the position of a guinea pig completely against your will in an experiment that's focused on emotional maniupulation and abuse wouldn't by itself be enough to make you have a breakdown, even with everything else aside? Guess you're just tough bruh
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>>142587668
*know if
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>>142587563
>how about someone losing their home in the typhoon? also maybe family members/other friends dying in the typhoon while we're at it?), etc etc.
So you actually wanted them to write in some contrived bullshit just to force more itai into the situation instead of attempting to make in come up organically based on what we've seen so far? I'm glad you're not on the team kek
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>Nico -> Tenga -> Chidori -> Agata -> Noriko
Reminds me of Nagi no Asukara where there was something like this at some point.
Sayu -> Kaname -> Chisaki -> Hikari -> Manaka -> Tsumugu (and Miuna liking Hikari too)

But thanks to that we got a 10/10 confession scene between Sayu and Kaname.
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>>142587151
>>142587492
inb4 FMA crossover drawing
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>>142587680
I imagine the snowballing pain eventually added to the pain by just being there.
>Ow this hurts so bad
>+2 to communal pain
>fuck it hurts
>+2 to communal pain
etc..
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>>142587680
You say that but none of them showed it affected them, except Tenga getting mad in the projection room. The horror of their situation only really manifested AFTER the chain-ITAI but you may have a point that the fact they were experiencing so much trauma caused them to have trauma of their own. I may have neglected to consider the feedback loop aspect, which might explain higher levels of ITAI.

However no, at least not before this chain-ITAI, they did not think they were part of a horrible experiment. Tenga was just angry at not being told the full story and most others were skeptical to optimistic about the experiment.

>>142587761
Well we did see a fucking typhoon, is it not itself a contrivance? The aspect of the typhoon they used is something about atmospheric pressure affecting the mental state of people, and they even used the physical danger of it when Kacchon saved Nori-chan so really what makes my suggestion so different?

In any case I know I'm biased, and that emotions themselves are pretty subjective topic. People have killed themselves over less than unrequited love. I just personally would have liked to see other reasons for emotional trauma, and there exist plenty other reasons.
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>>142587867
Yeah this is what I meant by feedback loop aspect, this makes sense.
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>>142536699
holy shit this is a complete failure
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>>142572424
Fuck off cunt, I know everything.
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>>142587266
Don't worry, they come from Tumblr so they're nothing of value.
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>>142587761
>kek
Really?
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>>142580301
ITAI

Huh.
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this ep was too much for my kokoro

fuck just imagine how shitty peoples lives would be if they actual implemented it on everyone, complete madness
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>>142589486
>fuck just imagine how shitty peoples lives would be if they actual implemented it on everyone, complete madness
You`d adjust, quickly. After generation you woudnt remember things ever were different.
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>>142536692
you can't blame him for liking best girl
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>>142546500
This same shot was used when Chidori was assigning people to help her cook. Immediately after/during this shot, Chidori was looking at Katsushira and gets embarrassed when he notices this (because she's self conscious and picking him to help maybe? I'm not sure). Who was Nico looking at during the shot in this picture? It would be a good parallel maybe. I didn't notice this shot used on anyone else, but maybe I was just braindead and missed it.
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All I wanted was for Chidori to have her happy ending. I didn't even care about the rest of the cast. Why is it so much to ask?
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>>142590419
Oh never mind, it was Tenga. He's the one talking in that picture right? Evidence for Nico liking Tenga here, possibly.
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>>142580301
i fucking KNEW that scene had a symbolic meaning.
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>>142590427
>she's finally going to tell Katsushira that she still likes him and he runs away without hearing her out
>to go hang out with another girl no less
Life is suffering. I hope Sonozaki either dies or becomes otherwise unavailable to Katsushira, so that best girl can win. It's not going to happen though.
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>>142590427
It's Okada's rule. There has to be extreme suffering by at least one best. Look at Miuna, Minko, Nanami etc. She takes her casualites.
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There is some cool visual stuff going on when Maki says they can't be friends. It's a bit obvious, but watch the shading on her face as she says the group can't be friends. There is probably more symbolic stuff like this that I missed (>>142580301), can anyone point out any? It's hard to know if any symbology is lost because of different cultures. But basic stuff like this is still good to see in anime.
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>>142590724
>There has to be extreme suffering by at least one best.
But all of them? It was obvious early on that someone in this love-pentangle will get hurt and I didn't want Chidori to be among them. Now ALL of them got wrecked. For fuck's sake, only 9 episodes and all hope for a happy end is already lost. I don't even want to watch the rest anymore.
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>>142590889
Well she turned her face from the light into the shadow, so I guess it means her turning back to the "darkside" of her pysche ie shit's fucked friends aren't worth it. Sounds pretty basic though so I could be wrong.
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>>142590889
>>142591020
My bad, I thought you were asking about that scene specifically.
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>>142591020
That was what I thought too. Additionally in >>142580301, if you consider stroke order, what order would the characters be in? I think it's Tenga -> can't tell -> Katsushira -> can't tell -> masochist guy -> Maki -> can't tell. Probably not significant. But it might be cool if they end up dying in that order, or something maybe not that extreme.
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>>142591013
I dunno, 3 episodes is definitely enough for there to be some making up. I think there will be definitely at least a few happy endings for people. It's probably not getting anyway worse than this at least
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>>142590889
speaking of neat visual stuff, i like this observation
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>>142591229
lmao masochist guy loves it, indeed it is a good observation.
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>>142590889
Was there more to the "the rain is going to stop" than the obvious?
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>>142590889
When Kacchon was rememberingthe kids at the research place they said one of them knew a lot about flowers and plants. it made me notice that all the characters are holding different flowers in the ED.

I know that flowers have a lot of symolism connected to them so they probably represent parts of their personalities. Someone who knows more about plants than I do could probably identify them.
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>>142591608
Aren't roses related to beauty that cannot be approached?
I don't know what I'm talking about.
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>>142533404
So it sonozaki pretty much confirmed to have the same condition as katsu now? Can she not feel pain?
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>>142592030
What do you mean?
Katsu always felt pain, just not his own.
He got her pain instead.
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>>142592112
Hasn't he been unable to feel physical pain this whole time? Am I retarded?
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>>142592112
Nono, other way around. She gets his.
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>>142592138
Not his own, anon. Not much from current Kiznaivers' even.

Because he's still connected with her.
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>>142591608
Last month an anon translated an image of some flowers some Japanese guy made.

May not even be accurate, but here you go.
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>>142533404
I'll probably get ripped on for this but the guy at wrongeverytime has some pretty great episode writeups and talks pretty much only about themes/symbolism etc
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>>142592293
>remembrance for a dead mother
>the counselor offered her children, clearly a mother
>Kiznaiver project ends in suffering of the children
>children would be mad at mother
>Sonozaki is one of the children
Does Sonozaki sees the counselor as 'dead'? In "You're dead to me" way?
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>>142585949
>>142586124
I'm >>142556638

To clarify, I think they meant that Tenga says something manly to Chidori, rather than acting manly in front of her. こういうこと言いそうだなとは思ってましたし is what tipped me off.
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>>142563191
>People still slamming Tenga

Man this objectivity shit has no place here.

The whole series is about fucking emotions and how they affect people, and /a/ can't seriously figure out why he's lashing out.

You guys really are a bunch of emotionally stunted man-children.
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>>142581174
No, I would actually prefer a plot about Katsuhira regaining his sense of pain.
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>>142593530
I like Tenga, he's a really honest and straightforward guy. But Chidori is a good girl and deserves to be happy. At this point, Tenga would be like a participation award as far as I'm concerned.
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>>142593952
Thats not how love works anyway.

Wanting something enough will not always produce the result of achieving it.

Chidori will not win the Kat by simply having warm feelings for him.


Also if anyone deserves anything its fucking Nico.
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I can't believe how cute the 2 autists are together
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Holy shit, he did it. The absolute madman.

Fucking pity hugged her.

RIP Chidori's kokoro.

This episode was a right laugh.
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>>142580301
POTTERY

OKADA DOES IT AGANI
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>>142593530
>.jpg-orig.jpg
The fuck?
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>>142594818
shh dont tell nobody
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>>142594818
jpg-orig is what you get when you add :orig on the end of twitter pictures, gives you the original instead of the downscale.

You can just save it as a jpg instead of jpg-orig though, otherwise you get that.
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To all the autists hating on kiznaiver itt, I understand that it's hard to watch something that doesen't involve giant swords or retarded kids with flashy hair shooting laser beams out of their hands to alien monsters, but you could at least make an effort to understand human emotions instead of behaving like the worthless neets you are
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>>142597460
Just to keep everyone informed, in case you didn't notice, "ridiculous defenses of Kiznaiver" is the current new shitposting/bait meme. Be careful not to take any posts like this seriously.
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Blue autism a cute. I hope to see her be happy and maybe reconcile with red
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>>142597825

This, she is only doing this to help his childhood friend
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>>142597732
>I don't like your opinion therefore it's a meme
wow it's almost like autists are getting triggered by a show that relies on actual human emotions and interactions instead of fanservice and overblown action
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>>142597732
Actually it's pretty good, and >>142599245
is right. You lack of humanity doesn't mean the show is bad.
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>>142597825
Blue is going to die
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>>142574941
>>142546375
>>142545715
post EVA bucket
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>>142590444
That episode had multiple hints to her liking Tenga as did previous episodes. Some people are just too autistic to notice and think it comes out if nowhere.
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