Dragon Ball Super

>>142425789

How did they manage to fuck up hard enough to kill the dragon ball franchise for good? Super is worse than GT desu.

>>142425789
No, not at all. Posting about dragon ball should be a bannable offense on /a/. You guys are just too cancerous.

>>142425789
>Are you expecting something good in the episode of today?
Most interesting part of episode will be preview for next episode.

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>>142426051
At least we will always have the original!

>>142426051
Super isnt worse than GT stop memeing

>>142428369
Is that a meme? I though it was the truth.

>>142425789
The only thing I hope is much needed sense of urgency that so far Super lacks entirely.
I want a more serious arc (I don't mind if it has some humour on the side as long as the main plot is serious) with actual stakes on the line and with a sense of urgency.

Unfortunately what I hope for is not what I expect.
I expect it to be just as shitty and slice of life-ish as rest of Super has been so far.

Can someone resume me the plot of super?

I dropped it after the second movie.


what a piece of shit

No, I am not hype for Future Trunks arc.

I don't expect something good in the episode of today, because it's stupid.
Goku could instantly defeat Vegeta with Kaioken.

>>142430452
BoG Arc and RoF Arc are the same as the movies with the exception that in RoF Arc Tagoma doesn't get killed by Freeza and instead is used as his punching bag during training which makes him end up becoming Freeza's strongest henchman in history. Once they invade Earth, Frog-Ginyu bodyswaps with Tagoma and fights Gohan and then Vegeta. Vegeta kills Ginyu-Tagoma in 1 hit. Rest is same as the movie pretty much just more drawn out.

Universe 6 Tournament Arc has Beerus' twin brother Champa, who is the God of Destruction of Universe 6 (Beerus is from Universe 7) challenge Beerus to a Martial Arts Tournament because he wants to eat food from Earth but Universe 6 Earth is a lifeless husk so he proposes the tournament to win U7 Earth from Beerus, in exchange if he loses he offers to give Beerus his Super Dragon Balls which are planet-sized Dragon Balls that can grant literally any wish with no limits whatsoever.
U7 is represented by Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Monaka (a total wimp that Beerus invited and said is the strongest person he ever thought in order to motivate Goku and Vegeta), Boo was also supposed to join but he failed the entry test. U6 is represented by Winnie the Pooh on steroids, Robo from Chrono Trigger, Blue reskin of Freeza, an asian saiyan reskin of Tarble and purple penis-head serial killer/assassin called Hit.
Goku beats Winnie the Pooh but then loses to Blue Freeza who cheated by using poison.
Piccolo then also loses against Blue Freeza due to the poison cheat.
Vegeta then proceeds to obliterate Blue Freeza, followed by also beating Robo and the shota Saiyan from U6.
Goku is reinstated after finding out Blue Freeza cheated.
Vegeta then loses against Hit who turns out can Stop Time (like DIO from JoJo).
Goku then knowing about Hit's power manages to counter against it by just predicting his movements but then Hit Stops Time for longer and Goku is on the ropes.
To be continued in next post.

>>142430923
But is there mudamudamudamudamudmaudmaudmaudmaudmaumfuamdhamdua

And za warudo? If not then this is literally worse than gt

>>142430923
Goku pulls out his trump card which is Super Saiyan Blue (renamed version of Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan) + Kaioken x10 and manages to fight Hit evenly.
But then Goku realizes Hit isn't fighting at full strength because of the tournament having a no killing rule and asks Beerus and Champa to get rid of said rule.
Champa and Beerus start arguing for so long that Goku's body spasms out from Kaioken and Goku forfeits the match, thus Hit taking the win.
The last one standing is Monaka (who can't fight and is utter fucking weakling that Beerus lied about being strong as I mentioned earlier) who enters the ring to fight Hit.
Hit catches on that Monaka is trash and in an effort to repay for Goku forfeiting, pretends to fly out of the ring after Monaka attempts to punch him, thus giving Monaka a win by ring out.
This results in Universe 7 winning the tournament.
Champa gets assmad and wants to kill his fighters but then THE God of Everything intervenes and says he enjoyed watching this tournament and will hold one of his own and that all the fighters present here are to join the next tournament thus preventing Champa from killing his fighters.
Champa gives up Super Dragon Balls to Beerus and leaves.
Beerus then takes a pity on his brother and uses the balls to wish for Universe 6 Earth to be restored to life along with its population, thus giving Champa his own Earth with delicious food.
The end of U6 Tournament Arc.

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Did Black Goku fuse with someone? He has potara rings on him.

>>142430923
>>142431203
Why are you spoonfeeding a retard?

>>142431136
Nope and nope.
Hit's Time Stop is completely silent, but it does have similar visual effect to Za Warudo, inverted colors and all.
Though initially you don't see it and it's mostly silent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DecIUC82FSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ynShYeZkgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRF2Ot7d-Is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i_ylwIG5pY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBGjszUie8Y

>>142431298
Because it's 1AM and I'm terribly bored and lost control of my life.

>>142431283
That looks like Demigra's earrings.

>>142431283
There are tons of earrings throughout the franchise that look like that. Zarbon had some, Gohan worse some during his mystic training, Chichi was wearing some in a recent Super episode.
Their only distinguishing features are color and Potara are silver and yellow. The only character to wear gold and green ones is Demigra, and we don't know if they hold any special power.

>>142431395
Yeah, he was the only character so far with Green Potara.

Question is whether or not Toriyama is insane enough to tie in Super into DBO and Xenoverse.

>>142431298
because fuck your memes

>>142426051
> kill the dragon ball franchise for good?

Seems to be alive and well to me, What with it's anime lasting up to at least episode 70, It's mobile game and it's new PC PS4 Xbone game coming out.

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>>142431393
I'm just done reading your response anon, thank you very much.


I don't know if it's the way you wrote it but it actually sounds kinds fun.


Thanks again.

>>142431455
DBO wouldn't surprise me since he wrote the backstory for it and supervised the in-game plot, so it wouldn't be all that weird for him to reuse ideas he still likes.

Xenoverse is a little more iffy though. It depends if Demigra was created specifically for the game or if he was an unused character from Toriyama's DBO plans.

>>142431676
Watch U6 arc at least, it's decent. Starts at Episode 28.

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>>142431716
I will actually do it right now, not much to do this Saturday night.

>>142431676
thats a cute ass cat

>>142431835
Enjoy

>>142431714
DBO was axed before the story was finished so it wouldn't surprise me if Demigra was unused from it

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>>142431283
>black goku
>not tullece

>>142430229
Of course it's a meme, GT was a pure unadulterated rehash.
And not even a good one.

Vegeta is best boy

>>142431283
>Black Goku
>Only Black thing is his clothes

Anyone got a stream link?

>>142433059
I don't know the policy of posting link here directly, but the subreddit called dbz has links up.

vaughnlive dot tv slash wgg100

>>142432133
>>142431714
Demigra is enjoying quite the big bad role in that carddass game, Dragon Ball Heroes.

>>142433381
I kinda would have preferred an Dragon Ball Online arc (with Dragon Ball Heroes characters in place of the OC characters maybe) instead of new Future Trunks arc.

But muh Mai so I'm okay with it.

>>142433233
thx bb

>>142433381
Yeah, I found it quite strange that they chose him of all people to be the villain used to introduce SS God Beat. Didn't realize he was all that popular.

How many time until the ep?

>>142433605
12 minutes

>>142433605
12 metric minutes

>>142433605
If you're in a stream, it should start when the clock hits 9:00.

>>142433624
>>142433631

thanks my man. DESU I only want to see the preview

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>>142432402
>GT was a pure unadulterated rehash
I guess Blue and Golden Frieza was too original for you.

>>142433656
>Not watching Purple Vegeta's death or defeat
Come on anon, give it a try

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>>142433461
> Dragon Ball Heroes characters in place of the OC characters
Unless you're only referring to characters such as Adult Gotenks (now comes in both GT and Xeno flavors), the avatars/characters of Heroes is practically the same with Online's OC characters.

Can anyone spoonfeed me the stream?

I hope I haven't missed the Disney commercial where they pull the rope yet.

>>142433895
Already posted it
>>142433233

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>>142433895
http://vaughnlive.tv/wgg100

>>142433895
It is literally in the thread

>>142433927
Thanks mate

These fucking milk spots

>>142433059
wilsonjj DOT me SLASH jptv/#

>>142433926
Thank god, I didn't miss it.

>>142425789
I'm probably being foolish for this but yes I am hyped for next week. The whole Future Trunks Arc is looking to be the most exciting thing out of Dragon Ball Super so far. And I'm willing to bet that there are actually quite a few people around here whose inner child is screaming for Joy at the return of Future Trunks and the very fact that we are actually getting an evil Goku. I mean let's be honest here people this is something a lot of us have been dreaming of since we were children.

>>142434109

underage

>>142433700
Better than Dragonball:IN SPACE!!! featuring Tuffles, hell and reality are connected again like in that one movie we had before and super saiyan is totally a big thing still right?

Seriously they tried making regular Super Saiyan a grand reveal even though it's the most common thing after Goku became a kid again.

Also it's funny how you cherry picked the parts that were Z rather than Super.

Fucking reddit trolls

>>142434109
I'm kind of hyped for Trunks and Trunks interaction and the possible "WOW I GET COOL" from Kid Trunks.

Goddamn, how to stop these trolls from slowing the stream?

>Adblock not blocking VaughLive ads

JAPAAAAAAAAAAAN

>>142434176
Well in Super we had, a new Goku recolor, two new Frieza's recolors, Turles 2, Trunks' arc 2, SSJ with white hair because evil.

>>142434255
register and then ignore them

So who's looking forward to the end of episode preview more than the actual episode?

Any moonspeakers here willing to give some tl;drs on dialogue? I can't understand ancient asian rune languages

>>142434281

block them yourself and contribute to a blocklist

>>142434333
People on stream keep saying that Herms98 on twitter will give summaries

>>142434333
Later once I'm done with the EP. Then again, this is DB so just enjoy the fisticyffs

>>142434176
What's wrong with Baby and the Tuffles? Baby was pretty cool and his motives make sense.

>>142434445

his actions were retarded at best

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Vegeta is angry at both of these chumps.

>>142434283
>Well in Super we had, a new Goku recolor, two new Frieza's recolors
For starters SSB and Golden Frieza are new concepts and Golden Frieza isn't just a recolour if you had been paying attention they were also introduced in the Z movies and not Super.
Frost, especially his final form, clearly has a different design to frieza and was introduced in a different way to frieza as well as having different methods of domination.

>Turles 2, Trunks' arc 2, SSJ with white hair because evil.
You mean arcs that haven't even come about and we don't know much of other than the characters that are in them?
Yeah because those are rehashes.

Meanwhile there's an episode of GT that's literally a rehash of the Oolong episode.

>>142434499
The Saiyans destroyed his planet and killed all his people and he got revenge and not only did he get revenge, but he got his planet back and people to live on it.

Seems to make sense to me.

>>142425789
Find out on the next episode of Dragon Ball Z.

baby veggie :3

>Vegeta chastising Goku for not showing his full power and fucking around

Hahahaha

>>142434702
That just looks odd.
I mean, I guess it makes sense but I don't like it.

>>142434751
JUST

>Vegeta with a pacifer
>Vegeta, the most serious character in Dragon Ball, reduced to sucking on a baby toy to stay alive
This is a comedy gag gone too far.

>>142434702
>SSGSS Purple Vegeta
I don't know if like it or not

>those corsets
Jesus christ, they look like they could hurt someone.

>>142434839

baka gaijin

>>142434702
>>142434793
It looks odd because originally his hair was the same color as the rest of his body and now it's not. Doesn't make much sense.

>>142425789

Why is Vegeta purple? Is Super supposed to be like Spaceballs and he just went plaid?

>>142434751
Baby Vegeta

>>142434562
>For starters SSB and Golden Frieza are new concepts
Yeah, because Goku getting a power up and killing a Frieza that got cocky and died because of it so a fucking new concept.
>Meanwhile there's an episode of GT that's literally a rehash of the Oolong episode.
Don't be a hypocrite, Superfag.

>>142434907

Some QUALITY shots

This whole story is garbage, does it end today?

>>142434907
Here comes the QUALITY.

>>142434997
Yep. Preview for Future Trunks arc is why everyone is here. GET HYPE

>>142427557

Wait a sec....there are TWO Gokus in that picture. Look in the back of the car.

Could black Goku be his twin? Tori hinted at it way back then!

>>142434943
>Yeah, because Goku getting a power up and killing a Frieza that got cocky and died because of it so a fucking new concept.
Now you're just nitpicking and changing the subject. It doesn't change the fact that the forms that were the topic of the conversation, were a new concept.
And again, that part of the story was from the Z movies you retard.

>Don't be a hypocrite, Superfag.
Sorry but I don't see anything from super that's on that level of rehash. I'm pretty sure you're the only one that thinks it is.

>>142432291
>>142432975
>Not knowing Black in Japan just means Dark

In Smash 4 in Japan, Dark Pit is known as Black Pit.

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>>142435030
>Preview for Future Trunks arc
Please have decent art and animation.

>>142435072
And he's even black(!!!) and white!

VEGETA NO

>>142434888
Quality post

>>142435165

fucking monaka saved the day

>monaka beat the antagonist again
truly the strongest warrior in the universe

Did Monaka just save Vegeta?

MONAKA SAVES THE DAY
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>>142435110
>implying Toei will deliver decent art and animation

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>>142435074
>that the forms that were the topic of the conversation, were a new concept.
Sure, RoF is just a rehash of Namek arc in the worst way.

>>142434751
For what purpose?

>>142435185
What did Monaka do?

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Based monaka did it again

copy vegeta got rekt

>>142435213
QUALITY at it's finest

Purple Vegeta did nothing wrong

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He really missed Trunks's infancy.

>>142435277

he crushed the "core" of the goo

also veggie wasn't aware of pacifiers until he saw pan :3

TRUNKS!!

MONAKA FINDS A WAY

future trunks

Blue hair.

>>142435386
WHY IS IT BLUE

> Future Trunks arc preview
> Serious as fuck music

Shit's getting real, guys.

>>142435422

toriyama

>>142435273
>Sure, RoF is just a rehash of Namek arc in the worst way.
And a recolored image proves your point, how exactly?
In fact, what point do you have?

Animation in the preview looked pretty damn good

This stream quality is fucking trash

Did Mirai Bulma die?

Trunks was crying...

>>142435422
maybe it's god mode

>>142435422
ge dyed it like buma dyes hers

>had pink hair in cell saga
>suddenly blue hair
Uh, what?

>>142434702
So this means that SSJ3 Gotenks lost to base Vegeta?

>>142435455
The animation of the first episode of this arc looked pretty good too. Look at it now.

>>142435422
Because that is his actual hair color. The anime had different hair colours for Bulma and Trunks because the manga wasn't colored in a lot of situation and LOL TOEI QUALITY consistency with the source material

>>142435487
yes

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>good animation

>>142435481
different timeline

>>142435422
I think a better question would have been why was it purple in the first place?
I mean originally Bulma's hair was purple but it was changed long before Trunks came along.

>>142435133

And the second Goku is in the b(l)ack of the car!

>>142425789
>Are you hype for Future Trunks in the next week?
With that preview? Of course
>Are you expecting something good in the episode of today?
SSB Purple Vegeta was fine, that's enough
>And, will you miss pic related right?
Goddamnit Monaka

>>142434751
What

>>142435422
Blue=Purple

Bunch of daltonic fucks I swear

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>>142435481
>Pink
wat

>>142435510
cute, CUTE

>>142435481
>Toei in charge of not dropping the ball
His hair was allways blue, same as Bulmas since the first fucking chapter. Glorious Toei consistency

>>142435510
Is that Pan or Mai?

>>142435557
best Bulma

monaka confirmed for best boy

>>142435596
mai

>>142435596
pretty sure the episode descriptions confirmed it's mai.

>>142435508
>Because that is his actual hair color
why kid trunks have purple hair like 10 seconds before they showed blue hair future trunks

>>142435596
mai

>>142435596
confirmed Mai

>>142435481
Toriyama draws Trunks with blue hair.

>>142435537
Nope.
Already confirmed to be from the same timeline as the Cell arc.

>>142435608
bulma/mai dead

>MaixTrunks is canon

>>142435481
>>142435591

God you guys are fucking morons. He DYED his hair blue because all likelihood his mother was killed thus he's doing it to remember her.

>>142435510
>Mirai Trunks is hitting dat
>Our loli Mai has a crush on our Trunks

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

>>142435510
It's fucking Mai from Mirai Trunks' timeline


>>142435636
Toei, that's why.

>>142435447
Krillin, Gohan, Piccolo and Co fight Frieza's minions, they get owned. Then Frieza fights them, they get their asses kicked and ready to cry in fear, then the almighty Goku appears, get a power up, Frieza tricks him, then Goku has no other choice than to kill him.

>>142435501
E V I L G O K U

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>>142435510

But how would Mai be so young?
Did they go to Namek to get their dragonballs?

purple is bulmas natural hair colour
future trunks previously had his natural hair colour
bulma dyes her hair blue
it's obvious that trunks obviously has dyed his hair for whatever reason

>>142435636
They're probably going to keep the greyish purple for kid trunks so it'll be easier to differentiate them

>>142435596
>pan existing in FT timeline

>>142435644
>>142435639
>>142435633
>>142435624
where can i find the description of the episode?

>>142435596
It is Mai.
That is already confirmed.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/06/03/future-trunks-arc-key-visual-revealed-dragon-ball-super/
>The key visual is pretty mysterious, but I will give one spoiler and say that the person next to adult Trunks there is Mai. During this nonstop series of desperate situations, with Goku and Vegeta forced into tough fights, expect to see Mai play a surprisingly major role together with Future Trunks!!

>>142435694

maybe Pilaf and their gang screwed up their wish on this timeline before?

>>142435712
poor piccolo

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>>142435596
How the fuck would it be Pan?

>>142435712
hell yeah, harvest moon super

>>142435694
>But how would Mai be so young?
You'll get your answers next episode. Can't you have a little patience?

>>142435596

Are you fucking blind?

That's Mai.

>>142434751
GT reference? Toei confirmed for bros.

>>142435510
Why the hell is she so young?

>>142435773
Time Travel.

>>142435712
>>142435756

>Chichi making Piccolo do the chores

Classic Chichi

>>142435788
No, because it's fucking stupid.

>>142435708
hm yeah forgot about that
Still Gohan could have had a babby daughter before he got killed

>>142435694
Is there's a set think for when they had there wish.

Is there a reason the wish couldn't be in the area between Freeza-Android Sagas?

>>142435694
Goten is like 12 and still looks like he's 6. Toriyama gives no fucks. In the scan that previewed Future Trunks, Future Mai and Black Goku you can see that she has a tad older face but still looks young.

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>>142435510

>>142435712
fuck goten still a midget, no time skip

>>142435808
You don't even know anything about her you fucking idiot

>>142435798
because she has the same age as trunks

>>142435694

It's actually very likely that they made the wish for young before the Android stuff. Remember that if they had more than one wish, they could have fixed it right afterwards. So, they probably became babies before the Androids appeared, so it'd count for both timelines.

>>142435694

Maybe they had the fucked up wish during the 3 years of training before the Android Saga. The ages still match up.

>>142435806
gohan died before meeting videl in that timeline so it seems unlikely

>>142435654
Don't even fucking joke about Mai dying.

>>142435814
...that he didn't tell anyone about? Or that he never visited?

>>142435806
>Time Travel

Pan doesn't exist in FT timeline because Gohan is dead.

Why is there always a clock in the picture?

>>142435806
You fucking moron, Pan can't exist in that timeline. Videl is dead and Gohan is dead

Mai is a 40 year old lady in the body of a 12 year old

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I expect, much like Freiza's special training or the Pilaf crew wishing to be young. Super will completely gloss over what the deal with Mai is.

You people know it to be true.

>>142435885
Japanese television.

It really surprises me Toriyama is giving this attention to a human character.

Is Mai his waifu?

>>142435808
But you'll have to wait anyway, egotistical twat.

>>142435885
that's how japanese television works

>>142435717
>expect to see Mai play a surprisingly major role together with Future Trunks!

They're married! Calling it. Perhaps we'll even see their children. Please let this happen, based Toriyama.

>>142435873
>>142435884
>>142435900
Cell arc had 4 very different time lines interacting. Should could be from a new 5th time lines.

>>142435908
"Hello, this is Trunks. It's been a long time. After defeating the androids, the future was at peace...until he appeared!"

>>142435900
if Mai is alive, Videl might be too. but yes, Gohan definitely is

>>142435668
>God you guys are fucking morons. He DYED his hair blue because all likelihood his mother was killed thus he's doing it to remember her.
How the hell do you know about something that hasn't happened yet?

>>142435918
Yes

>>142435824
Also, Kid Goku was 15 when he beat King Piccolo.

>>142435824
Are you implied that she has her actual age and just looks younger? That's beyond retarded. She obviously got younger.

>>142435900
Gohan could have saved Videl from the androids and got her preggers, just she wouldn't have been as old as Trunks. There could well be a younger Pan.

>>142435943
>Bra will end up being Trunks and Mai's child instead of Bulma and Vegeta will just be raising her instead
Is this cucking?

>>142435688
No, it seems to be some kind of shadow monster thing. There was an episode summary that kept talking about "Black", not "Goku Black" destroying Trunks' future. And the preview scenes showing "Black" not looking like Goku at all.

Now, It seems like we're basically going to get a Baby Saga where "Baby/Black" is going to possess Goku.

>>142435814
It doesn't matter, because in any case that person isn't Pan at all.

>>142435875
We know she won't die that soon because her VA said she will appear in a lot of episodes of this arc, at least.

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>>142435648
>Toriyama draws Trunks with blue hair.
How long are we going to hold on to this excuse?

>>142435908
Is this the same future Trunks from the Cell saga, or a different one?

>>142435908
Different Time Trunks? How can Mai exist if she was dead in the original?

restream for those who missed it

http://vee.scay.net

>>142435550
bulmas hair is purple in the manga

>>142435997
Could die and Trunks could have flashbacks numbnuts we don't know jack shit yet so shut the fuck up.

>>142435694
Why the fuck do people keep asking this retarded question.

>>142435946
"Mom, hold on. I'll make the future peaceful again, no matter what!"

>>142435991
Actually I like this idea. Maybe the rest of the cast will finally do something.

>>142436004
Cell Saga confirmed by previous leaks.

>>142435918
he probably was mad that toei scrapped the mai/trunks stuff from super

>>142436010

>if she was dead

Except she wasn't shown to be dead

Most likely the Pilaf Gang made their wish to be younger in the Frieza-Android Sage timeskips

The beginning of the arc will in episode 47, titled "SOS From the Future! The New Black Enemy Reveals Himself "which airs on 12 June.
CONFIRMED BY AKIRA OFFICIALLY AND THE TOEI:
The episode's plot will start in the future when the earth is free from the domination of Androids. A man named "Black" suddenly appears. Even Trunks in Super Saiyan form is no match for the new enemy. Bulma decides to make a time machine and ask the help of Goku and Vegeta's past, but after half a year, it only has accumulated enough fuel to the time machine just make a one-way trip. So Black appears again before Bulma and Trunks.
CONFIRMED BY AKIRA AND AWAITING CONFIRMATION OFFICIAL TOEI:
The episode begins when the gang pilaf, 17 years after the tournament events between universes, still searching for a way to rule the world, find the magic, an alternative to the Dragon Balls. Thus, Pilaf, Shu Mai and go in a submarine to the ocean floor, where they find a sealed box with the emblem of Kaioshins. (This is a bit like the classic series, when they find the Piccolo sealed in Mafuba) to break the seal, a woman appears Kaioushin and beside her a person "apparently harmless" that attacks Pilaf gang. Startled, May the last survivor, manages to escape. At that time, Trunks was known and respected for defeating the androids 17 and 18, also for helping in the reconstruction of the planet, Mai then swallows his pride and ask for help. Trunks faces the mysterious person whose strength was far superior to his, so our hero sees the need to flee and seek their last resort, Goku.

>>142435510

>Trunks love interests is someone who's older then his mother
>Trunks is a cub that looks for cougars

>>142435824
>Goten is like 12 and still looks like he's 6. Toriyama gives no fucks.
Nah, Saiyans just shoot up at some point in their life.

>>142435908
Got a version with sound?
Upload to pomf.is

>>142435918

He has always lived Pilaf's gang, but he didn't have an idea on to how integrating them back to the cast.

De-aging and making a combi out of Mai and Trunks was definitely his idea.

>i was born blonde
>my hair is now dark brown, and my beard has some blonde patches

>but Trunks is not allowed to have blue hair

>>142435107
black/dark are interchangeable everywhere outside of post-mid 20th century anglosphere, ie "black magic"

>>142435907
this is anime so it is actually really normal when compared to a lot of characters
>>142436010
no ove ever said that she died, maybe she was always part of the resistance

>>142436034
Maybe it's because they've set the Pilaf wish as being sometime before BoG, so since this is like future from where everything androids didn't happen and Piccolo died early this seems weird. Of course various time shenanigans but still. Odd to have a BY THE WAY THEY GOT THEIR WISH AGES AGO LOL

Damn Dragon Ball fans really know what filler is. There was barely any discussion for the Copy Vegeta arc, but the moment an AT storyline gets even a mention, tons of interest picks up

I'm proud of this fanbase

>>142436073
Trunks has a flashback and remembers that even in the Cell saga, was found in the laboratory of Dr. Gero, clones of all Z Warriors, including Goku himself. Upon arriving at the laboratory, Trunks awakens clone of Goku, who appears to have the same ingenuity. After explained the situation, he decides to help, but in the meantime, to awaken the clone, Dr. Maki computer also awakens two clones of Goku, this time with a different look.
Upon returning to the battlefield, Trunks and Goku clone suffer another defeat, however, the Kaioushin that had been sealed by the warrior (whose name was not revealed) awakens and disbelief with the situation, explained that had been sealed to prevent the mysterious warrior never come back to life. In a desperate measure, she throws her two Potara earrings, so Goku and Trunks to merge (just so they would be able to win), but one of the two clones that had awakened simultaneously, followed everything closely and intercepted earrings, fundindo- thus with each other malignant clone. The merger of the clones attacks and destroys the Kaioushin with the creature with her had awakened. In an attempt to protect Goku is also attacked, Trunks sees as the only alternative to escape and get help. Bulma carries his time machine and Trunks travels back to the past for help. Thus the episode comes to an end.
Recalling that Akira Toriyama said that besides the Gods of Destruction, the Supreme Lord Kaioh will also be very important in this arc.

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>>142436074

Forgot pic*

>>142436034
Because just because the seires is pushing Trunks/Mai, her being in the future, young no less, makes things complicated?

She'd have to have access to them before the Androids appeared but after The Gang stopped using them to wish everyone else back.

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>>142435946
>freeze frame and record scratch
>"I bet you're wondering how I got into this situation..."

Really, Toei?

>>142436058
This. It was something he specifically decided to try despite admittedly not being good at writing romances, and then Toei just drop it entirely in the movie retellings despite having more than enough screen time to fit it in.

>>142436108
Toei filler has a distinct mark.

>>142435945
>4 very different time lines


3 time lines.
Future Trunks Time Line.
Cell Time Line.
Current Time Line.

> Should could be from a new 5th time lines.

This time line business can get crazy, so you have a point, but it doesn't matter much because that was already confirmed to not be Pan.

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>>142435900

You never know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJXAYshrlI
I AM HYPE

Translation of the Toei site summary for the next episode: https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/738762291370295297

>>142436081
>>142435908

https://my.mixtape.moe/tygqhy.mp4

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>>142436000

That's an illustration for an anime-only series though. Look at his hair color here, completely different from that one.

Either way, what Toriyama always keeps consistent is that Bulma and Trunks have the same hair color.

>>142436108
>There was barely any discussion for the Copy Vegeta arc
Well there's not much to discuss to be fair, pretty much everything was explained.

>>142436175
RIP Future Bulma.

>>142436073

>Mai then swallows his pride and asks for help

lewd!

>>142435908
>>142436073
preview on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJXAYshrlI

>>142436000
NOT CANON
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>>142436157

Except there are 4 timelines, retard

The last timeline is a timeline where Cell never threatens the Z warriors because Krillin and Trunks killed him as a fetus

Does that count as abortion

>>142436108
>>142436133

To be honest the filler wasn't that bad and compared to Z interval filler, this at least feels as if it integrates better. I enjoyed it and I loved that they finally gave people a grasp of just how powerful both BSG form was for Goku/Vegeta compared to SSJ3 Gotenks.

>>142436267
SIDE STORY
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It's canon, but not in the timeline.

why so scared for future bulma to die? i for one welcomed it if were to be "dark" arc. it's not like death means anything, anyway

>>142436274
>The last timeline is a timeline where Cell never threatens the Z warriors because Krillin and Trunks killed him as a fetus
That's the regular timeline anon.

>>142436308
>canon
N O T
O
T

>>142436316
It would mean a lot in the future line.

Black Goku = Evil Goku android + Evil Goku Android

>>142436073
>>142436114
>CONFIRMED BY AKIRA AND AWAITING CONFIRMATION OFFICIAL TOEI:

Source? Something about it smells like a fake.

>>142436318

Future trunks timeline is the only place where death means something.

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>>142436229

He drew Bulma originally with violet hair though. I always thought that's why they gave Trunks that haircolor - as an homage to Bulma's original haircolor.

>>142436114
Prequel to xenoverse?

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>>142435422
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TRUNKS HAIR IS NOT BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>142436316
>it's not like death means anything, anyway
how can you be so wrong?

>>142436114
Assuming what you said is true, why are the potara green and not yellow? And if two clones of goku fused together would they double up his voice tracks to express such or just leave him with his normal voice?

>>142436381
>>142436316

>>142436308
It literally can't happen.

The only universes it can occur in is 6 and 7 because they're the only universes with the Super Dragonballs and the Dragonballs were made from them.
We know that it can't happen in 6 because of the major differences.
We know that it can't happen in 7 because SSB is a thing and stronger than SSJ4 and Kibito kai is no more.

>>142436274
>The last timeline is a timeline where Cell never threatens the Z warriors because Krillin and Trunks killed him as a fetus

This happened in the current timeline. It isn't a separate timeline interaction, idiot.

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>>142436114
>clones of all Z Warriors, including Goku himself.
If this is true, then Super is literately a fanfic and worse than GT:

>>142436175

Some extra translation from me (from here: http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/news/news2016060301.html) that isn't translated in this tweet:

From the producer at FujiTV or something:
Pretty much just saying "Future Trunks saga will have a different atmosphere to the rest of Dragon Ball Super so far." so pretty much this is the dark saga you fucking DBZ kiddies wanted.
It confirms that the one next to Trunks in the visual is Mai. And "Goku has fought Freeza and then Buu and this new enemy is... Goku!?"

If anyone has a source for:
>>142436073
I'll see if anyone is bullshitting.

>>142436114
>goku clones
kek
who made them, gero?

>>142436448
Why are you bringing up universes? GT is an alternate timeline.
The different universes are literally physical places existing together, like galaxies but on a larger scale.
The different timelines are seperate places where events happen differently.

>>142436157
Cell's timeline also had a Trunks that traveled to a different timeline. That would be the fourth.

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>Truck's hair color isn't this
>Truck's hair color isn't that
Truck's hair color is whatever they say it is.

>>142436370
>>142436437
>>142436399

The second longer summary is completely false.Just watch the episode preview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJXAYshrlI

What I don't get about the future of Future Trunks is that Bulma keeps building Time machines instead of just building another spacecraft, fly to new Namek and wish Piccolo back.

Also: what happened to Buu?

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>>142436114
>fundindo
Try harder, mexicano!

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>>142435508

>>142436595
They don't know where Namek is. Goku is too fucking lazy to tell them through King Kai.


Buu never awakened in Trunks time. Not enough energy.

>>142436318
>>142436475


no, I'll explain it look

The original timeline was the Timeline for Trunks where he defeated the androids somehow and then Cell killed him and came back in time, branching into a 2nd timeline

However, in another timeline Trunks and Bulma created the time machine before, prompting an earlier travel to that branched timeline.

That means that there's a timeline where Trunks never travelled or travelled without engaging Cell, 17 and 18

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>>142436265
>>142436114

So we have those fused Gokus and that thing with the red eyes in the preview?

>>142436595
>keeps building Time machines
It's the same time machine. They just had to wait to refuel it.

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>>142435885
because it's time to get serious in DBS

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>>142436580
Also, look at this shot of Black's hand. He's clearly some kind of monster that will possess Goku.

>>142436596
but that's not an spanish word

>>142436552
>GT is an alternate timeline.
That would imply that the black star dragonballs are a thing in the regular universe.
Not to mention how many canons it draws on and crosses despite making zero sense at all.

It's not going to be canon ever anon.

>>142436652
>So we have those fused Gokus
No, because that's bullshit. None of the information released so far has indicated any of what was said in that post.

>SERIOUS MUSIC
>DARK TONE
>"SAGA WILL HAVE DIFFERENT ATMOSPHERE TO THE REST OF DBS SO FAR"

SO WHO READY FOR RETURN OF DBZ?

>>142436652
Yes!

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>>142436663

>>142436687
My theory is that it is an abstract being that shapeshifts into Goku.

>>142435928
>>142435917
>>142435885
Do American TVs not do this?

Australians TV do it too...

We always say because they put cartoons on in the mornings for kids, and you need to know when to leave for school.

>>142436226
Can we take a moment to appreciate the musical score here?

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>>142436114
So why exactly would a fusion Goku be that much of a threat? His base stats are still shit compared to what the current Goku & Vegeta can pull.

Also:
> black
> double Goku

>>142436696
>That would imply that the black star dragonballs are a thing in the regular universe.
No, it would imply that GT's timeline diverges much earlier; back when the black star balls were made.

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If Trunks's hair is blue, will Toei keep Kid Trunks's purple hair or change it?

>>142436699

You people said the same thing with RoF.
Fool me once Toei. Shame on you
Fool me twice-you can't get fooled again!

>>142436734
>Do American TVs not do this?
Nope.

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>>142436229
Except that isn't true! Here's one with him with purple hair!

Trunks hair has always been purple! And even if, Trunks has already started off the series with his hair purple. Shit, the Trunks in the series already has purple hair, so why does Future Trunks have blue hair? They're the same guy!
Unless he dyed it that color, then yeah, this is an inconsistency.

>>142436652
>So we have those fused Gokus
No.

>>142436650
>That means that there's a timeline where Trunks never travelled or travelled without engaging Cell, 17 and 18

This timeline never interacted with the others, though.
You said "4 very different time lines interacting". Just being born from Fetus Cell being killed doesn't count as an interaction, in my opinion.

>>142436758
It'll become more blue as he ages. So it'll never change because they'll never fucking age.

Can someone add the last scenes with trunks from the episode to the nep?

>>142436621
Just give it up now.
Superfriends are on full out defense mode.

>>142436758
it's not uncommon for hair color to change.

>>142436759
You've got a point.
Honestly RoF would have tension if THEY DIDN'T FUCKING HAVE BEERUS AND WHIS THERE

>>142436699
>SO WHO READY FOR RETURN OF DBGT?

>>142436808

yeah, it doesn't "interact" interact outside of a random event but there are 4 main timelines, you just need to use logic

>>142436595
IIRC they don't know the new location to Namek in their timeline.

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<3

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>>142436762
Literally nobody cares.

>>142436813

https://my.mixtape.moe/qxpuzn.mp4

>>142436699
>he thinks drgaon ball z is serious business

fucking edgy muricans

>>142436762
>Except that isn't true! Here's one with him with purple hair!
I'm not saying that he never drew him with purple hair. I said that there's at least one example of him drawing inconsistent hair color for him before. What he always keeps consistent though is that both Bulma and Trunks are supposed to have the same hair color.

Ever since Battle of Gods, he has always drawn Trunks with blue hair, but Toei changes it back to purple hair in the animation. This time they didn't for some reason, although I guess it's because we're getting a scenario where Future Trunks will be stuck in the past. So they want something to differentiate both Trunks after they do an eventual time skip in some later story.

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>>142436114
>was found in the laboratory of Dr. Gero, clones of all Z Warriors, including Goku himself

>>142436892
Toriyama has fucking done it again.

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>>142436892
MAI WAIFU

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>>142436923
Dragon Ball walked down the dark path with Piccolo

>>142436750
Because Potara is OP as fuck

>>142436877
Okay, okay. 4 timelines, but only 3 of them interacted directly with each other during the Cell arc. Is this acceptable for you?

>>142436925
So ultimately
>Trunks is getting his hair color changed because Toriyama said so

>>142436997
I guess JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is serious business because died there as well.

>>142436265
a bit of extra footage
Trunks's World devastated again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdFAm8ZwMlA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk7eDDCiZ_o

>>142437079

well, I wasn't making a big deal about it, just wanted people to understand there are at least 4 timelines in Dragon Ball

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>>142436901

Get this blue armed bandit out of here!

>>142436997
Did Roshi say something different? I swear he did in another scanlation?

>>142437119
Did you even fucking read/watch Piccolo Daimao Saga?
LIKE, AT ALL?
It was 100% dark and gritty with the exception of Yajirobe comic relief which lasted whole 2 episodes.
And Ma-Junior Arc right after that was full serious as well.

>>142437037
I doubt that Future Trunks & Pre-Cell Goku would be that strong though. The Vegito we know is from Buu Saga Goku & Vegeta.

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>>142437175
>implying the Goku vs Chi-Chi fight was serious

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>>142437134
yes

>>142436901
Someone get CWC over here.

Ok I don't really understand how the timelines interacted with each other. However, what I do understand is that you create a new timeline whenever you go back in time.

So what's the point of going back? Trunks doesn't change HIS future. The problems in his reality aren't solved by going back in time. He just basically creates an alternate universe in which the problem is solved when he solves it in the past. I also wonder how the time machine knows which timeline to go back to when there are so many.

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>>142435510
>>142435656
>>142436892
wow. They made Mai super cute

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Uh no.

>>142436892
Something is definitely up with Mai.
First: why is she so young? Did she make a different wish from the current timeline? Maybe the Pilaf Gang wished to be forever young adults instead of just wishing to be young again. FT timeline could be one where they didn't screw up the wish.

If Trunks is going back in time wont they just do the ritual and send him back?

>>142437274
>So what's the point of going back? Trunks doesn't change HIS future
Trunks and co talk about that.

>>142437237
Wow, half an episode, much saga wow

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>>142437274
when he went back to his timeline after Cell, ha was able to turn into SSJ, and defeat cell in his timeline

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>They changed the preview music

Oooooh man

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>>142435773

The GT shippers got BTFO. Its Narusaku all over again.

>>142436650
Here's how the timelines go

First up is the regular timeline Trunks visits. Keep in mind that two different versions of Trunks visits this timeline.

Next its the future the first Trunks comes from, the one we meet in the first place. When he returns to the future he's killed by Cell who travels back in time to the last place the machine went to during travel cell reverts back to the bug thing that left the shell.

Finally there's the timeline the second Trunks comes from, he isn't killed by Cell and manages to come back in time later on to when the androids first appeared in the main timeline. After the events of the Android saga he returns to his time and kills Cell and the Androids.

I think there was supposed to be a timeline where Trunks wasn't present for the Cell games because he was killed by Cell but that's never seen and is pretty much pure speculation. I think, I'm not entirely sure if Tori brought it up or anything.