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She was only pretending
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>>142425187
I am 100% that she broke her frames and no way she can go back to eating human food.
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We will never know what really happened during those dreadful months of captivity. Who was the victim and who was the incarcerator? We only know that a man's life was taken away; in the most gruesome possible outcome. A man of good deeds, with a god fearing plight for the world. A man redeemed. A man of flowers.
Today, regardless of the circumstances, that man is on that field.
With him, a long awaited friend smiles with open arms his return to boyhood.

"Welcome Back Karao."


May you rest in peace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bosouX_d8Y
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Where were you when Ishida wanted to kill Mutsuki?
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>>142425187
>she
That's a guy you faggot.
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>>142425187
Cute
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>>142425597
You mean when Ishida wanted Mutsuki to kill. He always planned her to be a crazy slut that will kill everyone
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>>142425033
We can't even know that for sure due to unreliable narrators, and Mutsuki is confirmed as one. Mutsuki might have had all her limbs this whole time for all we know.
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>>142425187
>this was Mutsuki when she got captured

Jesus Christ how long did the CCG take to get the operation started and invade the island?

It probably takes like 4 months for hair to grow this long again.
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>>142425882
RC cells, son.
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What were the scissors for? To cut flowers? A delusion?
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>>142425882
Look at the boats they are using.

They dont have that much money to have a speedy invasion. But they do have enough for weird helmets and shit.
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>>142425806
You mean a crazy feminist slut?

She raped a guy hard in his ass, cut off and mutilated his dick and stuck it up where his nose was.

A semen demon murderer, I would appreciate.
Imagine her with with a honest to god Griffith like pure smile when he first met Guts as she's staring down at the Qs with a blade in her hand an a fuckton of killing intent.
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I forgive her.
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i wonder where's the ring now.
>>142426137
Probably to cut flowers.
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>>142426297
Fuck that stupid bitch for killing such a pure man.
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>>142425882
Would be funny if Mutsuki isn't even on the island anymore since everything we saw about her and Torso was just flashbacks.
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>>142426297
>Qs find Mutsuki
>She's wearing the ring and holding a bunch of flowers
>Talks using feminine pronouns, tells them that it was a shame they missed her wedding.
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>>142426297
We were so wrong about her.
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We all knew his plight was at the mercy of Mutsuki Tooru, but her heinous actions are but a glimmer of far worse things.
She granted him relief and she, instead will be tormented by her actions until she is able to accept who and whom she wishes so to be or become.
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So how strong Tooru is right now?
Ghouls that have super regen: owls, pineapple, rize, kaneki, nico.
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>>142426297
He was so happy here, like a kid.
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>>142426608
shikorae.
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How long has Mutsuki been kidnapped?
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>>142426790
Mutsuki got taken 1 day before her birthay.
And we were told 5 days passed at one point as it coincided to being 1 day until Ken's and Arima's birthday.
How long after that? I dunno.
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>>142426297
I may be alone in this, but I'm glad Mutsuki brutally murdered that motherfucker.
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>>142426647
>tfw you could not protect tiny Torso's, and his crush's, smile.
>You couldn't protect Rize or Furuta
>Eto's smile is barely a smile
>Kaneki's smile was actually him asking to be killed, and his new one will probably be fucked soon enough
>Tsukiyama thinks that smiles are food
>Shark is dead and Urie doesn't even have a mouth half the time
>Akira is probably dead on the inside
>Arima is Arima
>Mutsuki is Kancil


I have no face for this. It's like Tokyo Ghoul is made to press all my parental instincts into over drive, only to let me see the sad children die or become broken and warped. Even Kaneki's mother was revealed to have been abusive. There is no happiness here. There is no childhood that is safe and secure. All of the children are sad and/or obligate cannibals, and we cannot save them.
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>>142427080
Goodnight, sweet prince.
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>>142427136
Well, it is a tragedy....
Seeing someone happy would be, horror like.

Imagine if there was, somewhere a ghoul and a human lived, much more in happiness?
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>>142427025
Her birthday is 14th December so its around 6 day.
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I like both Mutsuki and Torso
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You will be missed.
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>>142425187
Just realized quite possibly the most obvious symbolism dealing with Tooru's split personalities or rather her repressed memories. Her fucking eyepatch.

I just came out of the last thread where I saw I panel from really early on in re: where Mutsuki showed "Fear" towards Kaneki when he was taking out Serpent. Originally I thought this was due to the fact that she was just afraid of a mentally unstable superior, as anyone would be, but due to the new chapter and one other anon's theory (thx senpai) I realized that Tooru was actually scared of kaneki because she was reminded of herself, although it was on a subconscious level due to her memories being repressed.

The patch was just there to cover up her kakugan yes? But her kakugan not just being a kakugan in this case, but a representation of her sadistic tendencies and true femininity, whereas her desire to identify as a male was an escape from her own sins, an invention of sorts. Both the male persona and the eyepatch were just cover ups of the larger issues. Lies.

I feel so stupid for taking this long to catch it.
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>>142427303
IN THE AAAAAAAAAAARMMMSSS OOOOOOOF AN ANG-
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>>142427259
That's called Ikuma, he's a character from one of the novels. He grew up in a small coastal town with a human adoptive mother, who worked as the head of the local hospital, and didn't do anything bad. I hope we see him in the series proper someday.

>>142427299
Same.
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So the twist was that Mutsuki was far more depraved and inhuman than Torso?
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>>142427303
Goodnight sweet prince.
You can walk now, through the fields; and run as far your legs can deliver you. Can't you see? She is waiting, near that tree. Can you see it? That distant little girl, whose dress remains cleaner than the blue sky?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xButjfhZWVU
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>>142427464
Yes. And I liked that tbqh. Im also really glad she's not a 1=1 parallel to Kaneki, that wouldve been boring in my opinion.

She should die soon.
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>>142425847
My understanding of the chapter was this:
>Torso goes and fetches her arms and legs
>Puts them back on her
>Mutsuki wrecks his shit
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>>142427561
>She should die soon.
Fuck that. This is what i hate most about Ishida's writing, when he gives characters flashbacks or development and then simply kills them off.
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>>142427303
>I guess this is what they call a surprise, huh?

I cried.
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>>142428268
What did he mean by this
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>>142425187
Huh,

So Mutsuki is an honest to god serial killer, she even collects the tongues of her victims.

I liked the twist that her male persona is weak, while her female one is powerful and deranged. I wonder if she'll flee the island altogether and go on a murderous rampage.
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>>142428332

Look at the flowers on the right panel
>>142427303

He surprised her with the beautiful flower fields.
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i'm trying hard to think of how Torso would look like with the whole "dick stuffed in nose" thing but i just can't

that's a hell of a mental picture
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>>142427464
Torso always felt that he and tooru are similar. He even wrote it in his letter.
Also
>At the end, I destroy the face.
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>>142427700
Exactly, though I think that's just his inability to handle a large cast of characters. When I said she should die soon, I didn't mean within this arc, I think she should get more development, along with Urie and Saiko (fuck the rest of the new Q's though).
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mfw mods deleted every post containing chi*i.
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>>142429198
Because the mods like those ;)
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>>142429198
Because he is cancer.
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>>142429198
Loli is the anti-cancer.
Loli disgusts normies.
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What the fuck is going on?
What is this with chib* and and mods?
I thought this was a TG thread.
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Based as fuck.
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>>142429408
Your shitposting days in these threads are finally coming to an end. That's all.
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>>142429198
TG thread is getting monitored because every time chib* is posted everyone loses their shit and shitposting ensue. Just like now.
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>>142429637
>>142429633
Who the fuck
I don't understand. Is it that furry artist that pisses off the /co/ mods?
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>>142429499
>the lgbt thread.
Kill yourself.
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>Based mods finally stepping in and culling these fucking threads
I'm almost as hard right now as I was when Torso initially made Mutsuki into a onahole.
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>>142429708
It's you.
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Now that has been cleared up.

What was even the point of writing love on Mutsuki's face?
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>>142429738
And proceed to made torso her onahole.
Mfw sjw will consider the use of "thick implement" on torso's anus as symbol of Mutsuki's masculinity.
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>>142429963
Deep.
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Interesting how her hair is growing longer and whiter with each passing memory.
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>>142430143
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>>142430143
She cannot hide herself in her trap persona anymore and pretend everything is okay. We could finally get rip of Trap, now she's using female pronouns.
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>>142430190
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>Axe murders her entire family and creates delusional rape fantasies to excuse her psychotic behavior
>Approached by Torso who wants to show her a flower field, brutally dismembers him and mutilates the body, creates victim fantasy of having all her limbs removed

So this is the power of an unreliable narrator.
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>>142430239
Makes you wonder if Ishida is giving her curvy figure more attention because of it.
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>>142430277
What if the one being held captive was Torso all along and she reverted the roles in her head?
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>>142430277
Wait, wait. You are right, Torso abusing Trap could only mean she was imagining all of that, she's a fucking psyco liar.
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>>142430277
>>142430492
BRAVO ISHIDA
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>>142430403
Do you suppose she held her kagune between her legs like a pseudo-penis during the anal rape?
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The chances are very high that Torso's flower patch was really just the dumping spot for corpses on Rue, right?
Like when have flowers every literally been flowers in Tokyo Ghoul.
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>>142429708
A regular TG reviewer on youtube
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>>142430554
What if Torso was surprised cause Mutsuki led him into believing she's letting him go?
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>>142429869
She loves killing.

But actually nothing has been cleared up yet. It could mean anything.
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>>142430277
If this is true, then Mutsuki is probably the most fucked person in this whole goddamn manga. Almost every other "bad" character we've seen has been the victim of someone else, meanwhile this little psychopath has been leading everyone on into thinking she was a harmless little butterfly.
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I'm starting to think that the thick implement that Mutsuki used to rape Torso's anus is his own hand.
If that is true then Mutsuki is indeed one of the most fucked up character in tokyo ghoul right now.
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Rereading the chapter and being paranoid about things that might or might not be there. Thanks Ishida.

Look at the blood on her face in the central panel. Do you see "kill" written over her cheek?
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>>142430809
Oh shit!
Mutsuki did carry his arm!
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>>142430853
>Do you see "kill" written over her cheek?
No, I don't.
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I wanna ask this, am i the only one who misses rize?
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>>142430991
Of course not.

I want to see what post-kakuhou harvesting Rize acts like.
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>>142430853
I don't know anon. It seems a bit forced. I don't think it's intentional.
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>>142430918
>>142431134
Paranoia it is then. What about the 8 on her face in this one?

>Strength is a Major Arcana Tarot card, and is numbered either XI or VIII, depending on the deck.
>The key characters are that of a woman and a lion, with the woman looking calm and gentle, yet dominant over the lion. Many cards have the woman clasping the lion's jaws.
>The meaning of Fortitude was different from the interpretation of the card: it meant moderation in attitudes toward pain and danger, with neither being avoided at all costs, nor actively wanted.
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>>142431193
Just shut up you fucking shitposter.
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>>142430809
>Urie isn't the one making the report

Wonder why.
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20 chapters ago I wouldn't have imagined I would like Torso and Mutsuki more than seeing Autisma and Kaneki fighting.
Guess seeing tumblr's little angel turn out to be the most fucked person in the manga made me a bit happy.
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>>142430853
Yep i see it, plus there's this. Kill was written on mutsuki as far back as this.
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>>142431371
Probably because it's not his job to process corpses.
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>Meanwhile, in heaven
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>>142431554
That's the only one I see. The other is purely just someone seeing what they want to see.
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>>142431611
I suppose so - at a first glance, it didn't look like a proper autopsy report.

Especially since something like that should be able to pin the killing on Mutsuki assuming they have her prints and dna records.
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>>142431554
The first time i saw this i thought Shirazu is the edgy faggot of the group with all those middle finger and kill speechbubble. I miss him
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>>142430277
Nice headcanon, anon.
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>>142431628
Hate to burst your bubble but Torso's still a messed up serial killer.

Just turns out Mutsuki is an even more messed up serial killer.
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>>142432069
>still a messed up serial killer.
about as any other ghoul. He did it all for his waifu. Mutsuki is a filthy monster.
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>>142432069
Hate to burst your bubble, but both of Hinami's parents AND Mado went to heaven. Heaven in Tokyo Ghoul is apparently a very forgiving place.
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>>142431193
I don't think strength suits her right now. If she should be a tarot card she has to be the devil or the moon.
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So who's this guy and what is his mission?
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>>142432142
Mado went to hell
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>>142432142
Mado went to hell thought. Bless his pure soul.
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>>142431193
Again, it's a bit of a stretch. The important tarot cards/numbers in panels are pretty damn obvious, unlike the 8 in this one.
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>>142432302
>tfw Torso is purer than mado
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>>142432273
He's Hide and his mission is to hide.
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>>142431702
>what they want to see
I don't know what you're implying here but I was only intrigued because it looked like a strange blood pattern. My first thought was that it looked like V with the other two splatters being II, making a reverse VII but I thought that was too farfetched, even for Ishida.
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Mutsuki is a fucking creep. Jesus Christ.
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>>142432282
>>142432302
Mado wa sin heaven first, and then willingly chose to go to hell in order to punish sinners. Check his halo in the first panel.
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>>142432395
You know exactly what I'm implying.
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>>142432761
>wa sin

Time to go kill myself.
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Is there a single pure character in Tokyo Ghoul? There are so many fucked up people its hard remember them all.
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>>142430809

I honestly assumed that to be her kagune. Bikaku-rape.
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>>142432908
Only Hide.
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>>142432908
Amon?

I doubt being ghoul-ified has broken his sense of justice or his spirit.

I mean I don't think characters like Marude are particularly cruel or sadistic. Nor is Hanbee either.
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>>142432797
I'm not sure, actually. That I want her to die or something? You're wrong if that's what you think.
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>>142432908
Naki (bless him)
Shirazu
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>>142432908
Sasako.
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>>142432908
Arima
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>>142433034
I want to pound Sasako's boipussy.
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>>142433038
>keeping his own personal pet ghoul to hurt and mindbreak to the point he calls him daddy
>pure
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>>142432761
Come on now.

>>142432908
Takeomi
Yoriko
Naki

>>142432971
That's what i thought at first but this>>142430876
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>>142432908
This guy.
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>>142433136
Sorry wrong picture
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>>142432998
That you're looking too deeply into these types of things. Sometimes a blood splatter or messy line work are just that.

Also learn how to infer things, dude. It's not hard.
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>>142433078
That image is horrifying.

Also, get in line.
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>>142433078
I think hes doing the pounding now, prepare yourself
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>>142429738
If the mods keep culling the tumblr crossposters and "look at me I'm so funny posting cringeshit" posters these threads will be good again
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>>142433284
>>142433360
That's Kaneki stripping to get fucked by Arima.
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>>142433360
Is Kaneki /fit/?
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>>142433419
When the fuck is GOOD porn going to be made. The only thing passable so far are a series of vanilla Rize/Kaneki doujins
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>>142433188
He literally has a halo, and in the next page still has one as he walks into the gates of hell to presumably remurder some ghouls. I'm not sure how one wouldn't come to the conclusion of Mado going to heaven initially and then going to hell willingly. He even says he wants to help in his own way.
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>>142433250
You never know with Ishida and his random art strokes.I'm too autistic to infer things.
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I wonder if Miza is in heaven.
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>>142433445
Very
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>>142433484
never, even the yaoi shit looks terrible. The best we can hope for is Torso/mutsuki porn.
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>>142433360
Someone shop Kaneki and Hide holding him please
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>>142433484
>Rize
FUCK I MEANT
*Touka
>>142433543
We got about a year to wait
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>tarotfags
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>>142433484
Nah, there is some Kaneki focused doujins on sadpanda that are somewhat passable. The only thing is that most anons here don't like that stuff.

I remember some fem Kaneki doujin previews on Pixiv. The only problem is that what we get depends on what people are willing to buy and then upload.
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>>142433642
Why does fem Haise have bigger tits than white fem Kaneki?
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>>142433484
There's some good ones but probably not the kind of thing you want.
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>>142433642
Those femKaneki doujins are god's work.
I wonder how different the series would be if Kaneki was a girl
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>>142433711
Because Haise was more caring/motherly in nature, at least in regards to the Qs.
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>>142433445
yes. miring his gains but dont know if he's natty
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>>142433487
"to have fallen to such a place" is not obvious enough for you?

Dude i also wish for Mado to enter the heaven but it's obvious as fuck in this panel that he just arrived at the after life and on his way to hell. He literally said it in the last panel of the next page that he can't believe he'll still have a job even after he's in hell.
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>>142433769
He has next to no ass compared to Autisma.
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>>142433711
The Rize genes had a longer time to gestate within her. Also, it's not uncommon for women's breasts to continue maturing until around the age of 25.
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>>142433746
There would be a lot of yuri artwork involving Touka, Rize, Eto, and Mutsuki that is for damn sure.
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>>142433527
>implying Miza is dead
She didn't even get to talk to Naki yet
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>>142433769
How much protien in a ghoul?
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>>142433529
That buffneki must feel amazing, Jesus Christ.
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>>142425340
>I am 100% that she broke her frames
This is really the only logical explanation for how she managed to get out of this. The sudden memories of killing your family, killing animals, and committing cannibalism would be enough to trigger a huge panic that could cause the ghouls built in defense system to try to react in the way that peoples bodies can preform huge feats they normally couldn't do in a survial intent adrenaline rush
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>>142433746
>how different the series would be

That is the main appeal of genderbending for me. As far as Tokyo Ghoul goes, I can't say that much would be different at all. Ishida has written a solid series where the gender of the main character has little sway over the plot.

Have a bigger version of that pic.
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>>142433711
She's older.
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>>142433510
I suppose that's true, but still. Looking for that stuff works better retroactively rather than in the moment, especially cause that's exactly the type of thing that a person who wears a tinfoil hat would do.

it's ok buddy, I can be pretty literal too.
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>>142433746
Got any scans anon?
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>>142433823
>No onee-chan yuri with Hinami
>No daughter themed yuri with Akira
>No senpai themed yuri with wanwan
>No milf-themed yuri with Saiko

You underestimate yurifags and diversity in porn.
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>>142433801
Would you motorboat fem Haise's well-endowed chest?
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>>142433801
>that whole picture
Anon please, one's dick can only get so hard.
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>>142434075
No
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>>142433998
If anyone had scans of these doujins they'd be all over the net by now. Still waiting for the one with naughty Kaneki and Eto threesome.

>>142434075
>>142434107
>>142434147
I would lovingly massage Haise's sweaty tits in the shower, after a long summer work day.
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So what do you guys think about mutsuki's habit of collecting tongue?
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>>142433823
>Arima mind-breaking female Kaneki
>all those gratuitous back shots, panty shots and torn pantyhose
>endgame pairing might as well be Amon x Kaneki
Ishida had one job.
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Only logical explaination for the white hair is that a sudden spike in RC cell levels causes discoloring in your hair. Thats why it was happening during kanekis torture, he had to keep healing over and over, and tooru breaking her frames releasing tons of RC. Maybe arima too has ass loads of RC cells.
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>>142434286
Didn't Ishida confirm that Arima had bad genes, which is why he has white hair?
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>>142434270
She hates the truth so she won't let anyone tell her she's a liar, maybe?
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>>142430736
I love how everyone's ignoring the fact that she was regularly raped and abused by her father. She was a victim too.
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>>142434286
So an excess of RC cells(I assume in artificial hybrids) cause their hair to lose it's pigmentation?
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>>142434270
If you know what I mean.
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>>142434387
Thats my guess. A lot of people think its from stress like marie Antoinette syndrom but this is too fast imo
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>>142434367
That is true, but keep in mind that she still killed the rest of her family as well and then chose to lie about it. And as far as we know they were also abuse victims.

Should someone in her family have tried to speak up and report it? Sure. But not doing so isn't worthy of death. Especially not the brutal way that mutsuki went about it.
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>>142433563
3 seconds
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>>142434560
Not bad at all.
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>>142434560
Kek
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>>142434326
what do his pants have to do with his hair?
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>>142434684
Did you seriously?
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Anybody die recently?
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>>142434684
Not bad "jeans", anon. Bad "genes".
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>>142434147
Would you comfort a Femneki and tell her everything is going to be okay?
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>>142434560
>you see that cancer? you can climb it
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>>142434755
Hide
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>>142434761
>>142434733
What?
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>>142434755
Torso and presumably Houji.
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>>142434367
>I love how everyone's ignoring the fact that she was regularly raped and abused by her father.
>>>/tumblr/
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>>142434755
Yes, Eto ;_;
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>>142434684
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>>142434755
Maybe Miza.
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>>142434820
Is this the beginning of naki posting
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>>142434755
Someone was left with just a torso. I don't think he's gonna be alright.
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>>142434326
No. It's fanfiction. No such statement exists, but it gets constantly spread like fact despite that.
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>>142425187
Man, even don Kaneki still had an ounce of humanity in him to leave Jason alive. Mutsuki didnt even have that.
TORSO DINDU NOFFIN
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>>142432042
me too
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Did Torso actually do anything wrong in his life at all? I mean, he only hunted people because he's a ghoul.
His whole life he just wanted a waifu, and when he finally got one his dad went and ate her. The guy even went to the trouble of only dismembering Mutsuki while she was uncounscious. He just wanted to be loved but couldnt help to be creepy /a/.
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>>142435696
He broke his father rule and went down to town. That's where his tragedy began.
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>>142430242
>>142430190
>>142430143
>>142430355
Man, why becoming a psychopath makes her hotter.
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>>142433563
I did last week
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>>142430492
Are you kidding me.. So, Torso making her into a torso is completely out of left field now?
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>>142435866
Does psychopath turns you on anon?
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>>142433484
Its ironic how most Tokyo Ghoul porn is vanillashit.
tfw no doujin about Mutsuki kagune-raping torso
tfw no doujin about Eto and Furuta Fightning in bed for dominance
tfw no doujin about Eto and Kaneki hatesex/lovemaking
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>>142435874
Nice work
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>>142430853
>>142431193
It's good to look look for the details, especially after learning from Ishida's conversation with Togashi that he is just as autistic and overanalyzing as us, but it's just as >>142432350 said.
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God damn, this chapter made this fucking shitty boring character more interesting than the majority of the characters.

Pretty good chapter family.
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>>142436582
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>>142432302
So the afterlife is canon is the TG universe?
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>>142436582
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>>142433769
No, RC cells are the ultimate anabolic
He can heal large lacerations in seconds so it would be nothing to heal torn muscles almost instantly.
He was probably in and out with that body in a week.
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>>142436833
kinda
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>>142433801
Oh, I have these two doujins. The left is an artbook with art from TG + other series. The right is young Arima x FemHaise.
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>He continued his deranged habits by taking animals he acquired and slaughtering them. He would then leave the dead bodies scattered around outside the facility. He killed up to 10 dogs, 40 cats, and a number of other smaller animals. One night, Juuzou Suzuya had stumbled upon him outdoors after recently killing a cat. He then threatened to kill Suzuya if he ever informed anyone of what he saw.
So, Tokage was pretty much covering up Tooru?
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>>142433769

>you will never experience RC cell gains

It definitely wasn't reading books that got him into shape.
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>>142437057
>young Arima x FemHaise
SCANS ANON. GET ON IT.
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>>142436582
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>>142436582


>>142435696
>her
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>>142437057
I wonder if there's any doujins of Kaneki x FemKaneki.
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>>142434402
this can be what she looks like when she appear next time right
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>>142437319
I know you're just trying to be le funny memer, but i'm pretty sure anon wasnt refering to mutsuki.
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>>142437319

>Tooru feeling herself up after murdering her parents
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Even if Mutsuki was raped by her father repeatedly, that doesn't justify killing her brother and mother, who were also victims, or torturing and killing cats. Also getting raped doesn't cause DID under normal circumstances, so she must've had the other personality since long ago. The holes in her memory also tie into her DID.

>>142437065
>So, Tokage was pretty much covering up Tooru?
Not necessarily. As far as we know, they could've both been responsible for those dead animals.
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>>142437057
If you deliver scans I can try to translate.
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>>142437616
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>>142437065
Protecting those with similar hobbies. Clearly he also has experience on killing animals.

>>142437610
Breast is not that far down anon.

>>142437732
Never should have left the tent.
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>>142437674
>Torso was right all along
Man, re-reading these is going to be something else.
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>>142437983
>Shirazu never found out Mutsuki was a psychopathic girl
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>>142437545
Oh fuck, my bad.
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>>142437160
>>142437637
I've never scanned before but I might give it a shot sometime. Don't hold your breath though.
>>142437343
I've only ever seen male Kanei x male Kaneki.
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>Tfw only want a happy ending
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>>142438134
Godspeed, anon. Anything you can offer will be appreciated.
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>>142438078

It's good that Jaggy died when he did.

I doubt he could have handled the eventual suffering very well.
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>>142438193
>If, for argument's sake, you were to write a story with me in the lead role, it would almost certainly be a tragedy.
Ishida warned you. Why didn't you listen?
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>people doubted ishida could make mutsuki interesting


well well well
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>>142438193
Damn man. Is there anyone in this manga who hasn't suffered at all?
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>>142438891
Chie and Yoriko, maybe?
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:re is finally getting interesting
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>>142438891
Roma!
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>Wanted torso dead for the longest time
>mfw "This is what they call a surprise, huh?"
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>>142438891
Haise
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>>142439093
You literally ask for this. Week after week Ishida gives you exactly what you asked for. You should be happy.
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whos a better bully? Rize or roma?
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>>142438931
Yoriko lost Touka her best friend.
>inb4 good riddance
Indeed i guess Chie has never suffered before. Not sure though remembering that her family background is poor so she might have suffered.

>>142439031
I'm not sure if she's suffered or not in cochlea.

>>142439093
I hope mutsuki cut your tongue.
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WTF was that explicit cause of death.

Mutsuki is just a sadistic shit! not even Kaneko suffer like Torso did. damn Ishida!
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>>142439351
>not even Kaneko suffer like Torso did
I agree. Needs more Kaneko suffering.
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>>142437616
I don't think she has DID. She is just a very good liar that tells constant lies to herself and everyone around her.
If she has DID, she shouldn't have remembered where she hid all those cat tongues. She instantly dug up the bottle of cat' tongues to remind her that she did while repeatedly denying it.
It's a complicated case of self denial but I don't think its DID.
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>>142433563
old pic
>>142433487
>>142433792
maybe his personal heaven is killing evil ghouls
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>>142439564
>killing
>in after life
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Did Torso ever actually rape his victims pre- or post-mortem? Or was that just an hc?
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>>142439686
>bleach
yeah I dunno either
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>>142439704
It has never been shown but people just speculate he did because the torso was naked.
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>>142439771
So what you're saying is, Torso was a pure maiden and had his virginity snatched from him by force post mortem?
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>>142439830
It's also possible that he never raped Mutsuki in the first place and the anal damage that she did to Torso was a relapse of her psychotic episode she dealt on her father.
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>>142432125
he kill many other innocent women for his own perverted sexual pleasure
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>>142434552
She definitely isn't without fault. I'm not playing her up to be an innocent saint like how people in this thread are acting like Torso is an angel all of a sudden. The Torso-fagging is annoying.

They are both tragic, fucked up characters. Lots of people who feel victimized harbor just as much hatred in their hearts for bystanders because they never helped and the abused considers it a sin of omission.

>>142434831
Fuck off, Torsofag.
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>>142439951
>for his own perverted sexual pleasure
Citation needed.
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>>142439951
I would say what he did was wrong but it is not entirely for his own perverted sexual pleasure. He was trying to relive his memory with Minomi and the day she was killed. He dreamt of being happy and tried to fulfill his happy future plan with her.
It's essential a person trying to be happy with his beloved but it went the wrong way.
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>>142439937
It's also possible her father hit her because she was born a psychopath and kept killing their pets for example. The insane side of Mutsuki is completely batshit insane so there's no telling what really happened now.
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>>142439951
>Toorufags
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>>142440087
That is also an interesting viewpoint, explaining why she killed the cats when she went to the Academy. The amount of cats she killed must be quite a lot considering how the tongues filled up the whole jar.
It's may be her born nature to abuse animals.
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>>142439704
He likes "cold body temperatures" and loathes the face - so definitely post mortem. And since he called them his "lovers" and it's canon he faps to Mutsuki, so it's more or less certain he fucks the torsos.
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>>142440194
*It maybe
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>>142440087
Is beating and raping how you stop a kid from killing family pets?
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>>142439704
>>142439771
Well he did call them his lovers
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>>142440312
he was still sad from his waifu dying.
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>>142440229
>And since he called them his "lovers" and it's canon he faps to Mutsuki
Oh, right. I totally forgot about that. Thanks.
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>>142440256
No but it's how some parents react when their kids are different and don't behave as expected. Like how Torso kept beating her saying there was something wrong with her. Just like some parents try to beat the homosexuality out of their kids, some try to beat the strangeness out of them.
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>>142440347
What if tooru was just making up the rape thing all along? she just needed an excuse to be her true self. A crazed homicidal pervert who get's off to killing.
Dad did nothing wrong.
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>>142440256
Most family use violence to discipline their kids. And in Mutsuki's family, the father got creative with his violence.
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>>142440439
He was trying to give her a feeling of pleasure to curb her murderous impulses.
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>>142435652
>>142431554

i miss im too, what are the analisis of sharky
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Can't wait for Kanou's lab.
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>>142440620
>what are the analisis of sharky
Science points to 'a best' and 'didn't deserve it'
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>Torso wanted to go to a flower field with Mutsuki
>Torso got decapitated

>Eto wanted to go to a flower field with Furuta
>Eto got?
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>>142440017
>Fuck off, Torsofag.

It's because everyone's "relating" with him.
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>>142440644
What are the chance we got zombiesharky fused with gagi-guge kagune?
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>>142441279
He'll be the perfect man for Mutsuki, since he comes prekilled.
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>>142441420
Will she also assrape him too?
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>>142441475
Yes. She'll gently rape Zombie Shark with her cockune, while telling him that he made a good girl.
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>>142440438
Even without being raped, beating your kid makes you a shitty parent.
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>>142440256
Unless she imagined most of the things that happened to her in order to justify her murdering her family. She's an extremely unreliable narrator. She replaced "ate investigator corpses" with "was resting" during the auction arc.
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>>142441729
He didn't beat her hard enough. If he did she wouldn't have raised an axe to her innocent family.
I honestly agree with you though.
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>>142440438
Kids sometimes kill animals to cope with abuse/neglect because they project as the animal. Since the animal is 'them', due to it being helpless and unable to get away, it's okay to hurt them like the child has been hurt. It's part of the cycle of abuse or something. When this happens around puberty then it can become sexual. Cats are often seen as a feminine symbol, which is why male serial killers/rapists like to target them. Serial Killers often have distant/mentally ill mothers and similarly bad father figures. For more information please visit a wikipedia, or watch some documentaries. I recommend Ed Gein. Wisconsin actually has quite a few famous serial killers.

Which means Mutsuki might have sodomized the cats in addition to killing them.
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>>142440017
I'll be honest, I think Torso is admittedly the more sympathetic character at this point. He was given a rule to not go into town, but like any curious child who doesn't fully understand his situation, he was bound to break it. This one decision is the catalyst for how the rest of his life would eventually play out, and it truly is tragic.

Mutsuki could've had her psychotic tendencies before we were given her flashback, but we don't know so I won't comment on that. The murder of her father is understandable, however she murders the rest of her family in what some would consider cold blood, not to mention countless cats she tortured and killed.

Of course both of these characters are tragic; a product of abusive fathers. And as you say, both have committed heavy sins and neither is innocent. However I can't help but feel more sympathy for Torso, if only because we've learned just how unreliable a narrator Tooru really is.
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Unreliable narrator is a cheap story device.

You're literally lying to your audience.
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>>142441151
Nah
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>>142441662
Christ.
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>>142442458
Shitposter-kun you are truly having a ball with this aren't you?
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>>142442557
Admittedly it can be abused so easily, especially if it's just for the tweest. But if it's hinted at and done right, like I think it was for Tooru, then it can be fun and interesting.
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>>142442557

Sometimes you don't have any choice when you really want to shock the audience.

You have to look back and go, "Hey, know this thing? WELL IT WAS ALL WRONG!"

Helps pad things out a bit longer.

It IS cheap, though.
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>Chris Benoit'd her family
>murdered cats
>raped a man to death
What's next? Is she going to round up a minority and gas them?
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>>142442730
Honest to god I'm not shitposting.
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>>142442951
go on an sjw crusade to kill cis scum.
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>>142425371
r.i.p. Torso you were the moest of them all.
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>>142443483
The cat theme feels alot more morbid now.
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>>142443483
>cats

ISHIDA!!!!!!!!
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>>142443529
Fuck.
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>>142442951
Rip Urie's dick out and go "Kill all men"
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>>142434367
Sounds like something Mutsuki would claim.
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>>142443699
Urie might be to Mutsuki what Mutsuki was to Torso, a morality chain.
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>>142438535
But re isnt a tragedy goddamit.
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>>142442458
>He was given a rule to not go into town, but like any curious child who doesn't fully understand his situation, he was bound to break it. This one decision is the catalyst for how the rest of his life would eventually play out, and it truly is tragic.
But he went out to Town because he couldnt bear his hunger actually, not because he was curious, his dad didnt come home after all. He had no choice, we all know how ghoul hunger works, its more a miracle that he didnt eat the girl himself, which just shows how much he loved her.
Rather, his dad didnt even bring food and had already eaten his mother, its more than possible he came home to eat Torso but then found a meal Torso brought.
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>>142443529
Damn
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So who special class died? Houji? Juzou?

Or did I just read wrong?
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>>142445359
Hasn't been specified.
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Where are you guys getting the rape thing from? When did her dad do that? I only know that torso maybe raped her but since all this shit about her being captured might be an illusion fucked that up.
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>>142445388
The flashback of Tooru's dad beating Toory and then Tooru's t shirt got wet and the dad smiled or looked aroused implies some sort of sexual abuse. Also there was that scene where Tooru states hating the gaze of a man.
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>>142445388
>speedreaders
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>>142432302
They fucked this part up in the english translation of the manga. I was triggered.
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>>142431371
>>Urie isn't the one making the report
the report was tooo detailed, Urie got called back right after he found the torso
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Mutsooski

MFW
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>>142445703
How fucked up is it?
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>>142445388
read between the lines, child. the fact that she cut his dick off should be enough.
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i don't get the denial over arima being a ghoul, how else do you explain his strength, the eye issue, eto calling him the one eyed king and the fact that the only other characters that have undergone the white hair thing are ghouls
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>>142447654
>the only other characters that have undergone the white hair thing are ghouls
Explain Suzuya then
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>>142448049
Is suzuya's hair originally not white?
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"Oh my, my, my! How gory~ Blech."
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Why is it that Furuta is ALWAYS one step ahead of everyone?
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Let's (have a) solve this (one-sided) peacefully! (massacre)
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>>142443529
I didn't fucking see it
I cant trust Ishida
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Clowns to the right of me! Jokers to the left!
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Everyone is just a puppet in Furuta's macabre act.

The jokers mask hides something terrible: far worse than any ghoul.
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>Isn't dead
>Is just another insane cat murdering torso-mutilating shit

Ishida destroys everyones feelings, tumblr and normals alike
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>>142442951
I might like her if she does
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>>142425371
Why post a black dude, though.
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>>142428376
Maybe next arc will be capturing/killing S rated ghoul Mutsuki.
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>>142430277
Who says the rape was a delusion? Seems like she was abused/raped/whatever by her daddy and then snapped. Where does it imply that never happened and she just went on a rampage of her own volition without it being triggered by the constant abuse first?
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>>142434286
It's just an effect from torture/mental distress, nothing to do with RC cells.
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Never thought a TG thread could ever be this comfy.
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>>142453286
It's not implied anywhere, it's just the idea that we can't trust Tooru as a narrator because of her psychosis. How do we really know that she didn't invent the abuse in order to justify her decision to murder her family? It's far fetched, but still a possibility. Just something to think about.
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Where shitposter-kun ?
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>>142453675
I like the idea that it's rooted in RC cells, it would explain why the change can seemingly happen within a matter of minutes, something that certainly isn't possible under normal circumstances.
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>>142453804
Agreed. I'm honestly wondering where all the shitposters went.
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>>142454049
Arima used to have black hair and is now white, Juuzou used to have white hair back when he was insane and it's not black. It's not a ghoul-thing, I like the idea of the regular Marie-Antoinette-Effect more. People instantly turning grey because of huge trauma.

At my middle school there used to be this story going around about a lady whose husband and child died on the same day (she backed over her son trying to get her husband to the hospital by car or something) and her hair turned white on the spot from shock. Probably bullshit but still interesting.
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>>142454064
I don't know either but I hope they stay there.
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So how long until Mutsuki will have to be taken out? Obviously she can't be left alive like this, she's a risk. Guess this sinks the Urie/Mutsuki ship? How can she ever be trusted with anything again?
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>>142454274
She was fine as an investigator for over a year and half and only got to a point like these after being pushed to her limit, rape and abuse from her dad, mortally wounded by Kanae and Torso's torturing and rape. It's not like she's had episodes like this for no reason after her academy days and the CCG honestly don't care about how she dealt with Torso, Suzuya was exterminating ghouls in a similar manner in the original Tokyo ghoul manga and only got a slap on the wrist from Shinohara.
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>>142454462
Clearly in high-stress situations she'll go on a rampage, being a danger to her fellow investigators? I guess the CCG still wouldn't care, they've kept Haise around despite the danger of an outburst after all, so they probably don't even care if she eats already-dead investigators. But when she doesn't even remember the shit she has done how can she ever write an accurate report? She can't be relied on, and by now we all know keeping Haise around was a mistake of the CCG as well.
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>>142454274
Why does she have to be taken out?

As long as Mutsuki does her job as an investigator i don't see any problems for her. It's not like CCG really gives a shit about her mental state.

And if pic related is really foreshadowing from Ishida then she won't be a crazy mental retard if that was the reason why she would need to be killed.
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Mutsuki should just turn herself in. Urie an Saiko will visit her.

Also, I guess, how Tsukiyama regenerate an arm gives precedent for Mutsuki's regeeration. I also woul guess thath her kagune has already gotten through the frames long before the Rue island.
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Why are people giving Mutsuki shit for killing her mother and brother as well? Brother hasn't been shown yet so I understand but if I were her, I'd hate the bitch who watches me getting abused and does nothing just as much as the guy doing the actual abuse, if not more. Sure the mother was a victim as well but from Mutsuki's eyes she was an adult who could've easily done something and chose not to, a meek bitch.
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Tooru has an affinity for people that hurt her, due to proably being not right in the head first place and her father's abuse. She probably fell for Urie the moment he inadvertatently stabbed her.
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>>142454462
The cat killing was without reason. She is a psycho
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So she totally lied about everything didn't she
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>>142454719
Honestly i don't understand why everyone is caring so much about the mom, bro and even the cats. I never knew /a/ had so many moralfags. I mean yeah brown trap has serious mental issues but that makes her finally interesting.
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>>142454773
Not the guy you're replying to but she probably stopped doing that, at least once she moved in with the Qs, if only for fear of it being discovered by her roommates.
Still I don't see how she can ever be used again, her "forgetting" things is a huge, huge problem. At least Suzuya and Sasaki's fuck ups were known to everybody and they could be reigned in by Arima/Akira/Shinohara, she's just too unreliable.

She can probably redeemed somehow like Suzuya was who is now a functioning adult but right now I don't see how.
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>>142454908
She just needs a good wrangler. Suzuya or Urie perhaps?
She's probably on her way to an hero herself or something though.
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>>142454719
>Why are people giving Mutsuki shit for killing her mother and brother as well?
It's just tumblr being retarded. They are fucking mad because their precious trans self insert is mentally fucked up.
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>>142455006

>tumblr being retarded

Nice argument, a lot of anons are mad aswell for that
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>>142454719
If you honestly think they deserved getting axed for being scared of a volatile, violent drunkard I don't know what to tell you.
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>>142425847
Nah, they were definitely chopped off, anon.

>>142427697
That would only make Torso even more best boy.
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>>142455313
Yeah a lot of tumblr "anons" are mad.
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>>142455403
I didn't say they deserved it (especially the younger brother we know nothing about, since he was younger if anything he deserved protection from his nee-san) but coming from Mutsuki's perspective they were accessories to her father's crimes. Do you honestly not understand why she'd feel resentment towards them as well? Not surprising she did away with them too. Maybe it was just because she was in a blood frenzy rampage state of mind and she'll be shown to have regrets over that though?
From my experience with fiction, I've personally thought the bystanders/enablers were just as bad as the main villains in most cases.
Like I said, the mother was a victim of abuse as well and might not fully fall into that category but I'm just saying it's no wonder Mutsuki went postal on her as well.
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So since we're finally done with the Mutsuki is batshit insane reveal can we please move back to Cochlea next chapter?
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>>142427303
>>142428463
Maybe even returned her limbs to her.

Sweet boi.
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>>142455540
>I've personally thought the bystanders/enablers were just as bad as the main villains in most cases.
That's ridiculous. The mother would have been able to do about as much against her husband as Mutsuki was able to. Do you honestly think Mutsuki would be the only person he abuses in that scenario? You're basically saying Mutsuki was as bad as her father because she didn't protect her mother and brother from him. They were all victims, but Mutsuki is the only victim that took her victimization out on the other victims.
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>>142455873
He never cut them off. The reason he smashed her head to knock her out again right before is because really the flower field took place right after he knocked her out the first time. Her delusion of being his prisoner took place as in reality she did all that shit to his corpse and left to wherever she is now.
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>>142433792
Considering he has a halo, I think the interpretation here is that he thought he went to hell, but it turned out to actually be his own personal heaven.
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>>142434270
>LYING AGAIN
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>>142455918
Idk dude seems like a grown woman has more responsibility/accountability than a 12 yo child. I know it's not as simple as "just call the cops lol" in a situation like this but the mother definitely failed to do her duty; protect her children from a monster. Not saying it wouldn't have been extremely difficult and that she didn't try but still she failed and that's the only thing that matters to Mutsuki. Taking it out on the younger brother is black and white though.
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>>142455540
Yep, regretting it certainly means it's okay she hacked them to pieces with an axe. No one says she wasn't it the right to kill the father, but killing the rest is what makes her a monster. And also the utterly unneccsary brutal way she killed all of her victims.
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>>142442030
I know there was this doujin made by some Thailand guy or something on sadpanda a while back of a kid poking rabbits to death in their butts as a way to cope of having his father sodomize him regularly every night. Guy made a number of other visually fucked up stuff.
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>>142456077
>Yep, regretting it certainly means it's okay she hacked them to pieces with an axe.
Jesus you autist, when did I ever imply her regretting it would make it okay? Just wondering whether there's more reflection about what she did to her family coming from her side or if that topic is done with. She seems to regret killing the kitties more at this point since no more insight was shown towards that specific incident. Obviously she was horrified enough by her actions to "forget" them though.

It's kinda odd. She seems to remember killing her family for the first time in this chapter, meaning she has genuinely forgotten about having done it. However since she dug out the cat tongues after being accused she seems to have remembered that and just lied about it?
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>>142455955
Nah. We got Torso's flashback. So, uh, your interpretation is actually really far out there.
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>>142456173
Then why bring the regrets up, if not as a defense for her actions? It doesn't fucking matter.
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>>142456225
Because I'm wondering just how much of a psycho she is?
Wondering whether she full on intended to kill everybody/blamed everybody or whether they just happened to be in her sights when she was in a frenzy. Also getting into a blood frenzy absolves you from guilt for the particular actions you comitted while in that state where I come from btw (of course that's hard to prove though).
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>>142456032
Please inform me how her mother could have done anything against her husband more than Mutsuki? She certainly couldn't have done anything against him physically. Who givers a shit how it matters to Mutsuki? Obviously she thought it was valid because she fucking did it. The point is she's nothing but a murderer and a monster for doing it and neither her mother or brother 'deserved it'.
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You wouldn't rape Mutuski, would you?
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>>142457993
Sure why not?
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>>142457993
Best boy wouldn't like that.
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>>142457993
As I like my life expectancy being more than a few minutes, that sounds like a bad idea.
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>>142443483
>>142443529
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>>142457993
I would never NTR best boy.
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>>142425533

My sides
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>>142425187
I'm so confused, what happened exactly? She killed Torso, but surpressed the part where she killed her family and the cat?
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A few threads ago someone asked where this is from. http://nezineko17.tumblr.com/post/115937021193/tokyoghoul%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%94-%E5%8B%95%E3%81%8B%E3%81%97%E3%81%A6%E3%81%BF%E3%81%9F%E3%82%88
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>>142458510
She blacked out on killing Torso after he surprised her with a date at the flower field.

While she was blacked out, she recalled her past, repressed memories. When she came to, she found herself standing in front of Torso's corpse and, presumably, recalled everything that she did.
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>>142458510
She's a complicated case of self-denial and repressed memories.
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>>142457993
Why would you rape a men anon?

>>142458510
The memory UNRAVEL itself
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>>142458574
Oh my shit, that explains things.

Thanks anon

>>142458604
She really is, I would have never expected this
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>>142458662
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Post Naki.
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>>142458683
Ishida leaves lots of clue regarding Mutsuki's extreme case of self denial. I just wondered if the reveal was meant to be this brutal. Its honestly feels like a big fuck you from Ishida to his self insert tranny fans.

>>142458774
Try googling Mutuski.

>>142458997
Sad Naki is best Naki.
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>>142459165
>honestly feels like a big fuck you from Ishida
You mean like everything?
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>>142425187
Her split personality is more believable than kaneki
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>>142445582
Right now everything in Mutsuki's flashbacks is unreliable, as far as we know, she could have been making all those memories of her father abusing her, she is shown to be a liar and pretty much a psychopat, if she really got raped by her father, that still doesn't explain her killing her mother and brother for no reason, also the whole animal killing points out that she was pretty much rotten from the beggining
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>>142459204
While we can't say for sure that Tooru doesn't have DID, it's certain that Kaneki doesn't.
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>>142459204
It's not split personality though. It's more like self denial & repressed memories like what this anon said>>142439454

>>142459293
>also the whole animal killing points out that she was pretty much rotten from the beggining
The animal killing might've been caused by her frequent abuse that she received from her father . Some records has shown that there is a connection between history of child abuse and animal cruelty.
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>>142459293
Come on man, she's pretty crazy but there is no reason to think that the rape and abuse from her father didn't happen. It's like saying Kaneki's mom didn't abuse him because he had tons of unreliable flashbacks.

>she was pretty much rotten from the beggining
How can you say this when we don't even know what she was like before her father abused her?
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Tell me about Mutsuki, why is she so fucked up?

It's not like being raped and abused by your father could be a cause.
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>>142454248
Except that Juuzo's hair was never the same colour as Arima's or Kaneki's white hair. It was more like a really pale blond.
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>>142454932
More like heroic death. She'll sacrifice herself for Urie so he'll remember her positively. Right now she wants to die and called her own existence grotesque.
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>>142455540
Her face after killing her father was one of cruel enjoyment. She admitted to enjoying killing everyone, even the cats. It's her having fun.
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>It's like saying Kaneki's mom didn't abuse him because he had tons of unreliable flashbacks
>turns out Kaneki's mom never abused him all along
>it was just Kaneki being a faggot again
Bravo Ishida
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>>142459759
He could just be a natural albino, or the years long lack of sunlight during his imprisonment by Big Madam caused his body to reduce its melanin.
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Is Naki the purest tokyo ghoul?
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>>142459736
>Tell me about Mutsuki, why is she so fucked up?
She was born like that. My theory is that Mutsuki is the reincarnation of the one eyed ghoul from 100 years ago and is now back to get revenge on all humans and ghouls. She will also probably make a baby with Kaneki or Urie.
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>>142456173
She didn't really forget anything. It was just a really strong case of being in denial. She told herself so many lies that she began to believe they were true. Probably the worse her actions the more she denies them.
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>>142459609
Animal cruelty can also be the result of someone being born a sociopath. They do terrible things for no reason, then make up reasons in their head on why what they did was okay. Kizami from Corpse Party is an example of this.
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>>142459736
Not saying that Mutsuki didn't suffer, but how she turned out suggests there may have been something mentally wrong with her to begin with. Her father's actions just made her worse.
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>>142460120
>Doujin of Mutsuki extracting all CCG personnel's semen while keep yelling it's a lie.
Goddamn vietnamese bastard i need my straight Tokyo ghoul doujin.

>>142460430
It might be but Mutsuki didn't try to justify what she did. She realized what she did was wrong and just went straight into a complete denial.
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>>142459736
The most famous female serial killer in the United States started her "career" because she felt no one truly loved her, not even rape, just troubled relationships which made her think she was justified in killing her partners.
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>>142460757
Sociopaths act on impulse, then can later regret their actions. They can also try to retroactively justify themselves to make them feel better. The problem is that they have violent, deranged impulses.
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>>142461012
Speaking of that chin holding. It seems mutsuki has a habit of clenching and grabbing her clothes every time she lied. Or it's probably just my paranoia.
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>>142459643
With Kaneki is told in a more direct way, we see reliable flashbacks and since the beginning we understand that Kaneki has mother issues, but not to the point that makes him a sociopath, he is only an unsociable guy with self esteem issues.
Mutsuki at first is shown to us as a somewhat similar parallel to Kaneni's story, with an abusive father and uncaring family, but there are moments when everything she says is pretty much unreliable, this whole flashback pretty much confirms that she was making shit up just to justify her actions, just see the chapter when Urie finds about her gender, at that moment she is pretty much questioned about how her wounds are healed, and she just gives him her crazy blank look denying it.
also >>142460430 Pretty much this, there is no need for her to receive abuse from her family, if she was born a sociopath that is that, her reasons are no different than being batshit insane, which explains the gruesome way she killed and played with Torso's body
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>>142461385
one of her art also shown her grabbing her clothes with quote from ishida "Mutsuki will lie again". Is this recurrent theory?
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There's a point to living if things aren't interesting. The ones who get the last laugh are not us, the Aogiri Tree.
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>>142425187

> Literal axe murderer.

She couldn't just stab her family, no. She had to run around the room screaming and swinging an axe, like someone playing Hotline Miami.
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>>142463103
More like Lizzie Borden.

>Lizzie Borden took an axe
>And gave her mother forty whacks.
>When she saw what she had done,
>She gave her father forty-one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzie_Borden
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>>142443483
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>>142463103
>Hotline Miami
Spinoff when?
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>>142457993
No, I'd rather not.
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>>142458569
Thank you so much!
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>>142464326
Forgot pic.
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Dropped when Sharkbro died. Best character design with his shaved head. Everyone else is edgy faggot with emo hair.


So tell me, any important news ? Did someone die ? Did Kaneki finally stopped being a faggot ?
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>>142464428
Mutsuki is a sadistic murdering madwoman with repressed memories. Look what she did to Torso >>142464365
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>>142464428
Eto got captured. In the Current Cochlea arc, she's just broken out to help Kaneki and is fighting Furuta, who's been revealed at last to be a one-eyed ghoul.

Broke Hinami out and sent her on her way with Ayato and his bunch who came to rescue her. He is currently fighting Arima after realizing that he wanted to live all along.

Torso died after we got his backstory. Mutsuki revealed to be a a psychopath all along and has just been repressing her memories of sadistic urges.

Urie and Saiko became more competent characters (in Urie's case, a lot more caring).
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>>142464559
Who gives a shit what she did to Torso? He amputated and raped her.
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>>142464582
So... almost nothing ?


Shit, what ? It must have been months since i dropped, just wanted to have a large portion of chapters at once, but now that i see it...


Did that tumblr character who makes masks at least died ?
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>>142464596
Oh you. That's barely anything on the TG abuse chart. Even the physical abuse she suffered during their honeymoon together would rate higher.
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>>142464596
She also murdered her entire family with an axe while smiling about it. She murdered cats and cut off their tongues as trophies. And she eats allies corpses if it benefits her.

If you desecrate a corpse, you're not exactly sane yourself. The number of Mutsuki apologists is amazing. If she kills your favorite character will you still like her?
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>>142464428
>Did kaneki finally stopped being a faggot?
Yes.

>>142464664
>So... almost nothing ?
What do you consider as something?
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>>142464596
From this point all we know is that Mutsuki might as well be making/exaggerating everything that happened with Torso, while he acted madly obsessed with her, there never was implications of rape, and in the end the only thing he did was showing her a field of flowers, at that moment because Mutsuki realized Torso was not really going to kill her, somehow that triggered her murderous side and ended up killing Torso in the most sickening way.
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>>142464596
>Believing Mutsuki's delusions
Anon, she literally skullfucked a man with his own severed penis and then wandered around an island filled with ghouls carrying around that man's severed arm.

Ishida's fucking with you, as usual. Remember that time Kaneki and Arima fought on a pile of corpses and all you could see where flowers? Yeah.
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>>142464888
It might be that her murderous state was already in control by the time they reached the flower field, so that by the time Mutsuki realized he wasn't going to kill her, she was in her sadistic murder mode. For all we know even her allies might not be safe from her.
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>>142465017
tfw it's revealed that he just tied her up to the chair and never severed her limbs or raped her. It could be the same series of events but much less dire than she made it out to be.
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finished reading the prequel this morning, and fuck there are so many things yet to be explained. started reading :re but the timeskip and new characters are not bringing me much enthusiasm desu. so later on do they go back to explaining the previous plotline or are we starting something entirely new here, guys?
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>>142465277
Certain things will start to make sense as you go through.
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>>142465017
>>142465261
Is there any reason to believe this? How else could she have listened to Torso's backstory stuff?
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>>142465550
I meant she exaggerated what Torso did to her. She may have only been tied up, not dismembered. Her memories have been wrong before. She said she only rested at the auction, while it actuality she was eating corpses. She fills in the blanks with made up stuff.
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>>142465802
Nah, she doesn't remember the blanks at all. She doesn't hallucinate anything; she simply doesn't remember ever having done it. Or rather, she forces herself not to remember it. If she said she only rested, it's because it's the only way she thinks she could have recovered since she "doesn't" remember what she did to recover.
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Because as she points out, she is a little bit sickened of herself for what she is, and actually believed that Torso was going to murder her, just to find out that in the end he only took her to a flower field, which could have triggered her murderous rage and thus ravaging Torso's corpse the way she did
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>>142465802
>>142466177
I'm saying this because of what she said to Torso, mind you. She can remember what happened before and after, but not in-between. Torso actually experienced much the same thing when he killed his father. It's just that he hasn't had any reason to repress anything else apart from that. Because, you know, he just became screwed up and didn't think to repress that.

Mutsuki had the reason to understand how horrible the rest of the stuff she did was, at any rate.
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>>142466177
She said a ghoul murdered her family
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>>142466177
The point is that she actually "Lies" to herself into believing those memories, as far as we know the whole thing about having an abusive father might as well be made up, for there was no reason for her to kill her entire family out of her hate for her father, she is not a reliable narrator so we can't take anything from her backstory for granted
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>>142466177
She might not really remember, but she makes things up as a convenient way to fill in the blanks. Oh, this must've happened! I couldn't have done anything else.
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>>142465096
>For all we know even her allies might not be safe from her
Yes and its been implied that the thought of even murdering Urie came into her mind when he found out she wasn't really wounded, she was just having her period, thus finding out she was just a girl, she somehow repressed her murderous fit, but at the same time, tried to stay closer to Urie, might as well planned to kill him if given the chance
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>>142466200
>she is a little bit sickened of herself for what she is
That's an understatement. She calls herself gross and grotesque and wants to be murdered for her wrong existence.
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>>142461127
Which chapter is this from?
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>>142466378
This is what I'm saying
>>142466436
I'm agreeing with that anon. She makes up reasons and thinks, "Hey, that's how it must have happened".

But that doesn't mean she hallucinated ever having her limbs chopped off or the days she spent with Torso. That Torso opened up to her and told her about his past is proof that everything up to that point was real. Plus, the lack of any mention of Torso's body having rotted in the report at the end. Unless his death was pretty recent, they would have certainly mentioned in the report the body's state of decay to emphasize how long ago Torso had been dismembered.

But what really stops me from buying into your theory is the question of why would Tooru suddenly remember the reality of everything she did?

What triggered her into recovering her memories was the certainty of dying (well, it turned out to be a false alarm, but regardless).
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>>142466488
Urie curling up and telling everyone that he hated them and wanted them all to die was probably how Mutsuki felt about her family. She empathized with Urie, because their feelings were the same. I wonder if she would've killed him if Big Madame wasn't still a threat at the time?
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>>142461385
She grabs her clothes when she is nrevious or lying.
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>>142466496
Well, at least she has that right.
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>>142461385
I'm actually quite interested why she did that after Haise met Touka. She didn't lie, but something must have bothered her.
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>>142466738
I don't remember which chapter specifically, but judging from Haise's missing right hand, it's towards the end of the Tsukiyama arc after he's attacked by Kanae.
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>>142466738
>>142467480
It's volume 5 chapter 53.
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>>142466797
I dunno, the clothes she was wearing in her flashblack are a lot longer than the ones she wears in the last pages. What triggered her was the sight of Torso's scissors.
Also in what momment did she regenerate her limbs? This is crucial information, because I doubt she could kill Torso in her weakened state, she had to use her Kagune and if she was able to use it, then it means she had a decent ammount of RC Cells, maybe her limbs started to grow up a while ago but in her delusion she didn't notice.
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>>142467570
I forgot how garbage IS/MS looks in comparison
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>>142467236
Maybe she realized Touka was a ghoul, remember with Donato she pointed what a monster Donato was, she could self inserted but tried to hide those memories, that could be why shw grabbed her clothes.
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Why is there a criminally low amount of porn for her?
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>>142467236
She could tell that something was off about him, but later lied to Shirazu about it.
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>>142467854
When she nearly got eaten alive that one time I was hard as diamonds. That chapter changed me for the worst.
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>>142467573
Hypothesis? Torso gave them back to her. Perhaps he felt close enough to her then. Or she crawled to them somehow using her kagune to move her body along. Or hell, she regrew them, if you believe that. But the point is, she wasn't deluding herself at ever having been kidnapped and cooped up with Torso.

And yeah: What triggered her was the sight of Torso's scissors. The belief that he was gonna finally off her.
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>>142425187
hot
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>Finally get some flashbacks into Mutsuki's past
>Multiple chapters of Torso holding Mutsuki against her will
>"LOL, SHE WAS ONLY PRETENDING."

Wow, and I thought Touka-haters were bad.
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>>142468145
Torso did nothing wrong.
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>>142468001
Her limbs at that point should be began to rotten. Also Homo prince needed to eat himself to re attached his arm. Mutsuki should had had a decent ammount of RC Cells as I said in my previous post.
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>>142468145
Oh look everyone! Tumblr is here
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>>142468145
She wasn't pretending, some part of her pretty much wanted to be killed off by Torso, when she found out he wasn't going to kill her, that is when in a fit of rage she reverted to her true self and killed the shit out of him, that and also playing with his corpse
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>>142468685
I wonder if she'll play Kaneki and look for someone to kill her on the island? The problem is that if they won't or can't, then she'll likely kill them instead. I'd be shocked if she survives this arc.
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>>142468197
Rc cells, son. Who's to say the damaged parts won't heal once it's been reattached to the main body?

But why are you arguing something else now? Whether you believe she regrew her arms or reattached them, it's all one to me. However, you're deviating from the main argument in this line of discussion.
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>>142469053
The thing is that severals passed, her limbs should be cold and rotten meat.
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I wonder if Mutsuki has a crazy healing factor after having all her limbs ripped off all the time
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>>142469225
And? Noro was pretty much just a corpse sustained by Eto's "bone".

Tooru's main body is still alive and well. If it recognizes Mutsuki's severed limbs as part of her, no matter how rotten they are, they may as well be able to reactivate the life in them or use them as materials to build around.
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>>142428559
>Because I've masturbated, thinking of you, countless times.

What a romantic. How could Mutsuki reject such a pure man?
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>>142468145
Touka a shit.
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>>142430644
I don't see why Torso would call it a flower field. He's a fucked up romantic, but a romantic nonetheless, I'm sure those were actual flowers.
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>>142430644
When they are. It's just symbolic for him to have died there and for Tooru to have succumbed to her dark inclinations again.
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>>142430644
When they can trigger trannies.
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>>142469351
Are you serious? Ghouls like Noro, Kaneki, Eto and Rize are rare. Mutsuki could only regenerate her limbs having a good amount of RC Cells, which could meant her limbs could had grew up while she was in Torso's custody but she didn't notice because she was busy playing the victim.
Re read the series, speedreader.
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People need to stop obsessing over Mutsuki's regenerated limbs. For all we know it's just Ishida being a shitty writer and pulling things out of his ass
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>>142470032
Are you serious? Why are you angry? Why do you even think I'm saying Mutsuki is like them?

I mentioned Noro to illustrate the process of Rc cells sustaining a body. Why did you suddenly leap to the conclusion that Mutsuki was resurrecting herself from a fatal death? Even if the limbs are rotten, they're still biologically compatible to her. They are not vital organs, so replacing the dead parts would be easy. How hard is it for you to wrap your head around that? Normal human beings do that all the time. The limbs can simply act as the blueprints for her body's Rc cells.

>Mutsuki could only regenerate her limbs having a good amount of RC Cells, which could meant her limbs could had grew up while she was in Torso's custody but she didn't notice because she was busy playing the victim.
You're going in circles here, friend. You're using your hypothesis as proof for your assertion. Why? I guess this is a sign of how little you've thought all this out. Or how little you're mentally capable of processing. Oh well. I guess I should have realized this by how forcefully you kept asserting yourself. It's my fault for drawing this embarrassingly stupid side of yourself out. I'll try not to do it again.
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>>142470324
>ishida
>pulling things out of his ass
Such as?
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>>142469702
What ever happened with Itori? I think she's the only character from the original TG that never appeared again.
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>>142425533
>file name
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>>142470417
Furuta

He comes deep from Ishida's ass and he's full of shit.
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>>142470549
Are you saying Furuta's character just suddenly appeared in the narrative fully-formed without being built up and molded from each subsequent revelation about him?
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>>142467236
She is afraid of the male gaze and the way Haise was staring at touka probably freaked her out.
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>>142470604
I'm saying Furuta is shit.
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>>142437057
>young Arima x femHaise
Muh
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>>142461385
Here is another one. Maybe she's only doing that when she's nervous or something.
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>>142470376
Because Noro, Kaneki, Eto and Rize are special snowflakes, they can regenerate limbs, eyes, half their body because they have an incredible amount of RC Cells, that's what you can't understand.
Ishida never said Mutsuki's regeneration was special, so it should took her time to regenerate her limbs. Also her DEAD, COLD, ROTTEN limbs couldn't be re attached because at that point all the nerves in them should be dead and cold, they shouldn't be able to carry blood, and if the nerved are dead Mutsuki shouldn't be able to move them.
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>>142470324
I somewhat agree with you. At this point anons should've realized how bullshit Ishida's writing has been since re: started.
Such a pity
>>142469702
Best slut never anon
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>>142470891
Um. Yeah. Kaneki, Hinami, and even Tooru; they're not necessarily lying when they're doing their ticks. When they do it, there's something they're trying to hide, to cover up.
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>>142470718
Please elaborate. Why did you think furuta is shit?
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>>142433801
>She wants your dick
I swea I thought this was the fucking title. Nips really love their SasakoxAutisma pairing
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So did Mutsuki turning out to be completely fucking insane a good teist from Ishida, or was it predictable as hell?
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>>142471287
Predictable as hell, the only ones that believed Mutsuki was innocent were the landwhales and speedreaders. Ishida gave too many hints in the manga and the calendar.
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>>142443529
Oh Jesus
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>>142471287
>is female
>thinks she's male
predictable as fuck
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>>142464205
How would Miami Ghoul work, you suppose?
Better question: how would TG work if it had an American setting?
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>>142427360
B R A V O
R
A
V
O
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>>142471443
>gave too many hints in the manga and the calendar.

Example?
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>>142472056
All ghouls work in McDonalds, #ghoulsmatter in worse.
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>>142472296
For example all the similities she has with Suzuya (the knives, the killing cats things) makes a huge resonance with the fact she is able to recognize serial killers and the fact that a ghoul killed her family, also she is scared of blood and losing control.
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>>142471058
What's Hinami's tick? I know Hide's cheek scratch but I haven't noticed Hinami's tick.
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>>142464735
I want to protect that smile
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>>142472296
Also her birthday art calender and mental herpez (shingles) interpretation from one of her art
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>>142472296
>spoon feed pls
go see the Mutsuki calendar pics and reread the manga.
don't forget her "will lie again" line in RE V1 and her twitter birthday pic.
now fuck off already
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>>142472627
WRYYYYYYYY the manga again faggot
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>>142470470
Probably doing whatever she can to siphon information at Helter Skelter.
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>>142472627
Yo.
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>>142472896
>>142473084
Welp, time to go axe murder myself for forgetting something that was outright said. Thanks, guys.
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>>142470470
OHOHOHOHO ITORI SLUT PLEASES ALL MEN FOR DATA AND GIGGLES OHOHOHOHO
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>>142472627
>tfw read thick instead of tick
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>>142473474
Me too anon, me too.
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>>142469702
She's the witch (main villain of the series) from the elementary school play where Kaneki played the prince while Hide played the role of witch's servant.

Screenshot this.
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>>142471038
;_;
>>142474359
I agree that Itori will be one the main villains, however, the witch persona Eto more.

Or Nico.
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>>142474608
>Demon
W H E N ?
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>>142474821
Soon.
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>>142426063
hmm,that makes sense actually.
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