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Mission 10
Planet Ragna is lively with the jellyfish festival that comes once a year. For a brief moment Walkure and Delta squad both forget the tensions of war and enjoy themselves. There's also legend that if two loves vow their love beneath a jellyfish on the night of festival that honors the seagod, they'll be bound together forever.

ラグナ星は年に一度のクラゲ祭りの時期で大賑わい。Δ小隊もワルキューレも、戦争の緊張を忘れて束の間のひとときを楽しむ。ラグナの海神様を称えるクラゲ祭りでは、お祭りの夜にクラゲの下で愛を誓い合った恋人同士が永遠に結ばれる伝説があるという。

脚本:根元歳三
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Daily reminder
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>just finished first rewatch of Frontier

Those last two episodes are intense. I'd be surprised if Delta can match that even though I think Delta is the more enjoyable of the two.
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>>142350685
Does Messer has another bucket for deathflags after this episode?
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>>142350718
>Zentradi on the winning side
???
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>>142350685
>Mirage and Hayate go out and have a date
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>>142350763
>Next episode title is flash of AXIA
>Messer has pineapple hair style
What's the chance?

>>142350768
>Genki girl on the winning side
???
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>>142350811
>Messer and Kaname go out on a date
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Praise the goddess
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>>142350811
You mean that Hayate and Mirage bumps into someone that has a date. That's what the preview suggest.
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>>142350811
Messer says YES to Kaname's invitation at last.
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>Not only no pictures(yet), also no staff(other than the script) listed when they update the story page

I'm worrying about the quality of next episode
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>>142350841
>Genki girl on the winning side
more likely than a zent on the winning side
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>>142350932

>shit Messer's more popular than we thought we gotta keep him alive long enough to sell some goods
>scrap that 5 minute death scene you spent weeks working on and replace it with some stills
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I WANT TO FUCK KANAME
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>>142350932
I have no idea what to expect.
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>>142350685
I still say that picture is an impotense joke
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>>142351155
It is apparently
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>>142350685
So you confess underwater or what
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>>142351147
>wanting used goods

Even the resident greenshit is better than her at this point
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>>142351281
It sounds like you should be underwater for a confession or maybe a dried Jellyfish above your head.
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>>142351281
Could be, this is a planet of people with gills after all. Or maybe it could be that it's just jellyfish hanging up like a mistletoe or something
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>Freyja's song awoken Protoculture ruins
>Kaname's voice awoken it again

It's nice to see Mikumo got beaten by inferior singers. When will she realize that love interest needed for this matter.
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>>142350685
It's a secret Arad's plan to make his two subordinates to go on a date.
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>>142351281
Well, the tradition must have originally started with the people of Ragna in mind, so yes I think you have to do it underwater.
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>>142351354
Mikumo x Ketchup confirmed. She couldn't possible consider someone else worthy as she's only interested in singing ability.
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Ragna's protoculture ruins already give their blessings to Kaname and Messer.
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>>142351390
It's obviously a Ragna culture festival
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>>142351425
>/ss/

Seems right up her alley.
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>>142351390
CPR scene is incoming
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>>142351281
Each person takes hold of one of the stinging tentacles trailing down from a jellyfish. What exactly happens depends. Commonly, both can each cling to it faithfully, and speak to and listen to one another while bearing through the nettles stinging. The sting though isn't painful at all to the truly pure at heart, or to anyone already intensely in love. So it's sort of like a test of bravery that you already pass the moment it starts if you're meant to be together, but if you aren't, you can prove you are by your determination. It's meant to reflect the relationship itself in an obvious way.
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>>142351086
>What is Roy, Michael, and Jin
Nope, Messer is so dead when Kawamori wills it.
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>>142351425
No, Keith will protect his otouto from the space squid.
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>>142351483
Barvo kawamori
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TATOEBA TOGIRE TA SORA GA MIE TA NARA
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>>142351599
Not cool
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>>142351490
Precisely because of that I hope he won't do something so predictable this time, that and that Keith would destroy Delta platoon.
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>>142351490
To be fair, Jin's ghost stuck around throughout EVOL and much later we got Aquarion Love/the OVA which was all about not!Jin and Yunoha. His death didn't impede his sales by that point.
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>>142351490
messer could be another ozma, right? it's just kawamori trolling right?
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>>142351147
On the stage Mikumo and Freyja are literally the same person.
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>>142351660
Ozma trolling was a red herring for him to then sucker punch us with Michael.

Messer's situation isn't similiar to either one, it's a different case that has to be looked at on it's own merits.

On the one hand he has more deathflags than there are zentradi ships in the galaxy, on the other hand, he's got some ongoing stuff, that pretty much gives him plot armor... for now
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>>142351717
What did he mean by this
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Why does Kaname want to win the Messerbowl so hard?
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>>142351878
Because he's the only one who likes her
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>>142351878
>Messer was saved by Kaname
>carries around a bracelet with only one song - Kaname's last song as lead vocalist
>Messer is saved by Kaname again

Messer wants Kaname to win the Messerbowl.
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>>142351878
Can't be a picky when you're an oldhag. Remember no one wants to eat Christmas cake after 25th
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>>142350879
As much as I am a Miragefag, I'm prety sure it's going to be this.
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>>142350811
>this is the face of someone who on a date
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Why arent there any tactical boy bands?
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>>142351934
>keeps turning down her deitos
Nah, man he knows he's not worthy
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Just finished latest episode

>that blushing Mirage in the preview

My heartdick
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>>142351878
Honestly, they've left enough room for Kaname just to go "No I'm only concerned with him because he's a good friend and colleague. He's saved us so many times too"

The fandom me included are shipping them hard though
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>>142351878
I don't think she was romantically interested before. In the past episodes she wanted him to socialize a bit more just like Arad.
Now with Var and resonance story this will change.
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>>142351969
Do you want this kind of gay samefags singing songs with lewd lyrics in Macross?
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>>142351490

Kawamori's will bends to the sponsers
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>>142351982
Come anon there is no need for damage control here. They are defenitely going to get together/belong together.

This is a ship you are free to sail on
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>>142352030
Atleast you don't have to be on suicide watch like Freyjafags and Miragefags.
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>yfw Messer sees Kaname and Arad on a date during the festival.
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>>142352072
What's he going to do, hulk out on Var and get his shit handily slapped by the White Knight later?
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>>142352072
And gets boner from it, remember he's a cuck.
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>>142352030
I have to agree.

The only real question is wether or not the two will both make it out alive (Well, I don't see Kaname in any danger of dying, but Messer though...)
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>>142352118
>Well, I don't see Kaname in any danger of dying
I don't know anon, it would be the big sucker punch no one sees comming. Sure killing off an idol would be pretty "hard" with all the Walküre music that's going to be released, but I've got this bad feeling that this time it's going to be different.
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>>142352166
Naw, they need her to be alive to suffer from the death of Messer. And if she died, Messer would just lose it completely and be put down. Messer dying is the only way we can have a surviving lover suffer but live on
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>>142352166
They can kill Reina or Kaname because their VA already popular.
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Pledging your love under the sea god doesnt end well according to this show
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>>142352166
Don't worry about that, WALKURE members can be hurt, betrayed, temporarily turn into bad guys, but won't be killed.
Idol fans are really sentimental and they know better not to irritate them.
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>>142352414
Macrossis not that kind of show the bends over to wishes ofproduction commitee in the middle of the show. Kawamiri has more integrity than. I can understand changes in the initial planning of the show but I doubt things will change now that the show started.
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>>142352474
I think they considered these factors before airing, so not killing idols was very likely already the idea in the first place.
But who knows, we'll just wait and see.
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>>142351967
That's Light of Axia, not the episode after that which is the jellyfish festival.
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>>142352341

They already killed a Kamiya voiced character in Frontier, you can't get much more popular than that.
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>>142352592
The festival takes place during the AXIA episode. The above description is about the AXIA episode.
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>>142352652
The amount of high profile VA in frontier was unusual. With so many around, popularity would have to stop being a shield for someone
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Episode title after is definitely an aftermath title. Someone dies on Sunday.
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>>142352726
>MFW it's Arad. He did talk about jelly fish a lot.
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I think Messer is safe for now. He does have a ton of deathflags and his lack of merchandise is suspicious (come on, I can't believe they didn't expect him to be popular, now even Herman has some merch), but it's too soon for him to die. I don't even know what his death would contribute to the plot. Pushing Hayate and Mirage to become better? They would still be no match for Keith.
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>>142350718
>no macross 2
Fuck off, faggot.
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>>142352825
Oh come on that's too out of character.
she would enjoy it more
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>>142350685
>ep10
Screenplay: Nemoto Toshizō
Storyboard: Susumu Nishizawa
Director: Yamato Naomichi

Gundam IBO Episode 13 staff
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WHERE ARE MY SCREENSHOTS
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>>142352825
My nigga
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>>142351505
And falls in love with her in process
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>>142353048
Is this good or bad?
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RIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hJepWBUqZk
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>>142353218
Everyone will kiss each other for no reason
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>>142352825
Delete this
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I think Kaname and Messer's relationship will build up slowly, so no confession for now.

If someone will try in that festival it will be the fishgirl.
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>>142350685
Why is there no screenshot? something bad will happen?
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>>142353218
The entire episode is about a bunch of characters dying and the rest of the cast mourning their deaths, until the last scene which is >>142353365.

IBO rapidly worsened after the first 10 episodes or so.
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>>142353430
it's supposed to be a Mirage episode.
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didn't people express concern over episode 9's director as well, and then it turned out really good?
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>>142353549
Episode 8, actually, because it was written by the Boruto guy.
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>>142353525
Fuck off. It's best boi Messer episode.
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>>142353525
>no condoms?
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>>142353549
>>142353573
Kawamori is supervising as the chief director on every episode anyway.
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>>142352398
Sea gods are dicks.
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>>142353573
As I dropped naruto over a decade ago, those words don't really carry any meaning to me
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>>142353549
Directors aren't writers anyway
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>>142352023
Yes
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>>142350739
IKINOKORITAI
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When do preview images come out?
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>>142353302
>the eye popping
every time
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>>142353787
they won't. There is none this weeks.
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>>142353815
D-doushite, fampai?
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>>142353815
I'm scared
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>>142353664
reply test
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>>142354017
>>142353664
Lurk for 2 years before posting
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>>142354051
This site is shit, cbf waiting 2 years
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>>142354073
>This site is shit
then don't bother posting at all
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I was surprised when it didn't happen as part of the episodes resolution, Kaname singing lead has to happen at some point surely
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>>142354094
k thanks bye
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If no one wants Kaname I'll take her
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>>142353798
>this will never happen
Why even live?
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>>142353798
where is freyja? ;_;
hayate might be a good single father
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What would you say is the most glaring flow in Delta right now?
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>>142350718

When need a version of this for Macross Plus, with Isamu and Myung on the left side and Guld with the eyeballs poping on the right.
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>>142354610
Wouldn't call it a flaw yet, as much as a concern over how the show's progressing. But we need the dynamic of the engagements to change a bit. Not saying someone needs to die, but that'd certainly do it.

I'm pretty convinced Ragna is going to get invaded, and that could also certainly do it if handled right
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>>142352023
>gookshit
Nip boybands are cuter.
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Hey guys preview pictures are up.
http://macross.jp/delta/story/
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>>142355430
Glad to see my Windy boys having a scene. This show definetely needs more Windermere development and scenes.
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>>142355430
Frejya's face looks weird in this one.
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>>142355430
Thats a pretty derpy shot of Freyja.

Also, I'm randomly gonna predict Messer and Kaname getting stuck in an elevator
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>>142355515
I hope King of the Wind (ep 12) is mostly about them.
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>>142355539
They get stuck in an elevator, Messer starts to VAR out, and Kaname, without any of the other Walkure's around, has to sing on her own to try and calm him, so she sings AXIA.
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Jellyfish Reina with Querulle on top
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Were the pictures always unrightclickable?
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Messer a shit.
Bogue is a joke.
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>>142356194
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>>142353525
It's Messer/Kaname episode. They saw them kissing
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>>142356194
KanaKana looks really concerned over MesaMesa.
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>>142356194
Kaname have tears in eyes.
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Perhaps Mirage will synch with Freyja withe help of Hayate. Freyja will ha 2 pilots riding her wind
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>>142356346
It's more like thr bridge bunnies say Hayate should take Mirage to the festival
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>>142356690
and he will
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>>142356690
Why would he follow a ship bunny suggestion?
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>>142356727
Because if not he will be another host of the green thing the next morning.
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>>142356726
the bunnies represent shippers and ships that won't happen
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>>142355758
I doubt that they would stuck in the elevator. My first thought was - Var'ed Messer in elevator is nothing good to the person in the elevator.
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>>142356490
>KanaKana looks really concerned over MesaMesa.

Messer has a backpack. Where is he going? Is he leaving Delta?
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>>142353048
Kawamori is also storyboarding so it should be something like episode 6.
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>>142356194
Messer "I'm not gonna look at her. I'm not gonna look at her."
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>>142357248
>
kaname have tears in eyes, look like messer is retire
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>>142357277
Seems like plot would move in this episode or a significant change would happen.
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>>142357248
he's moving in into kaname's room so she can sing him a lullaby every night
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>>142350685
>There's also legend that if two loves vow their love beneath a jellyfish on the night of festival that honors the seagod, they'll be bound together forever.
>The bridge bunny always has a jellyfish in her head
Deepest lore.
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>>142355539
See >>142356194
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>>142357345
Still if Messer dies, how are they supposed to survive against Keith?
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>>142356194
>Were the pictures always unrightclickable?
Yes
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>>142350863
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>>142357532
>Still if Messer dies, how are they supposed to survive against Keith?
I have no idea: get good.

>11. Jellyfish Reminiscences
This episode must trigger someone's memories and if Messer is leaving we might get how Arad has saved Messer flashback.
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Episode titles

10話閃光のAXIA
11話追憶 ジェリーフィッシュ
12話キング・オブ・ザ・ウィンド
13話激情 ダイビング

10. The Flash of Axia
11. Jellyfish Reminiscences
12. King of the Wind
13. Diving Passion/Fury (?)
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>>142353525
>her ears turn red when she's embarrassed
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>>142357713
That 12 episode for Delta platoon would be obliteration if Messer leaves them for real.
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>Messer leaving Delta platoon
HAHAHAHAHA
Serves that cuck right.
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>>142357756
It could be about Gramia dying and Heinz becoming the new king (at least in name until he's older).
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>>142354328
>good single father
Nah, he will raise her together with Mirage.
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>tfw Kaname will never sing, just for you
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>>142358054
What? No way. Freyja's 30 year old lifespan gets poof'd away like space aids.
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>>142358072
And nothing of value is lost.
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Hey guys, I just noticed, "fold" rhymes with "old"!

>FOLD HAG
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>>142358113
>gets poof'd away like space aids
Keep dreaming, Freyjacucks.
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>>142358229
might aswell bite the bullet and update my filter
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Mirage is cute but i dont want her to win Hayatebowl, she deserves better
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>>142358320
>deserves better

Dat damage control. Hayate is one of the best Macross MC's so far
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Where's Freyas 2nd rune located?
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>>142358867
Girls only have one
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>>142351717
They practiced hard to move in tandem like that.
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>>142359015
have we even seen a another female windamare
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>>142359561
Yes, more than one. They all have one heart-shaped one.
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>>142359665
It was even confirmed in an interview
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>>142359561
Heinz's mom.
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I just realized Freyja's cellphone is going "rune pika hoina, rune pika hoina" before the gorigori
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>>142358320
>she deserves better
I haven't seen anything to make me think Hayate is a particularly bad catch. Compared to, say, Hikaru
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>>142359749
I want to see a bunch of Meltrandi playing with Heinz mom like she was a doll while Heinz cries trapped in a giant dollhouse.
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>>142359749
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>>142360229
Do you think cellphones pick up on their owners verbal tics?
It's a mating call for the female dorm's mercat thing.
What the hell is that thing? It looks nothing like the rest of the mercats. It's somewhat creepy.
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>>142360621
Heinz mom is already dead.
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>>142351322
Messer wouldn't defile his waifu anyways.
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>>142356194
>Mesmes is leaving
NO
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>>142356194
Reina is cute!
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>>142361225
>Messer wouldn't defile his waifu anyways.
In Macross, defiling is the name of the game, waifus or no

The human race can't afford to be chaste
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>>142357348
>Axia becomes the planet dance of Delta
>but it makes sense this time since it's the only song that can help Messer
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>>142361412
>Kaname mans up an goes all "LISTEN TO MY SONG"
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>>142361272
>MesMes
It's MesaMesa
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>>142361412
>Axia becomes the planet dance of Delta
I think that's officially Giraffe Blues at this point
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>>142361660
because it was used twice? Which is less than some other songs
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>>142361858
It's been used thrice actually
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>>142362745
the teasing in 7 don't count
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>>142361660
No, if a song is Planet Dance, that's Bokura no Senjou.
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>>142362877
>the teasing in 7 don't count
Why not?
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How much Celerity do you need to pull off Quicksilver shit from XMen movies?
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>>142363944
>Brujah cuck in charge of breaking the Masquerade
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>>142351599
man southeast 'asians' should definitely not cosplay, they are the niggers of the asians
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was roid really an idolfag all along
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>>142365365
>Roid's plan is to make Heinz into an idol
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>>142365416
Should have put him in a skirt desu
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>>142365518
season 2 powerup confirmed
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BASED CERO
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>>142366420
Wow, Tenjo fucking Tenge. That's a nostalgia right there
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>>142366420
Delta ends with a Delta Squad vs Knights dance battle confirmed.
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>>142366662
thought I recognised it. Wouldn't have been able to guess though
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>you will be able to go on a VR date with Freyja in your lifetime

The future is bright lads.
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>>142368093
Uhihihihi
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Why is this show so fucking garbage? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I've loved every other Macross (barring 7), and everyone seems to be in a rush to choke down this turd hand over fist and saying how much they love it.

I *want* to love it. I can't get into it. Help me, /a/.
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>>142350685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FeqcK7ng8Q

How did they get away with this?
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>>142368359
>I heard it in my head

That laugh's so fucking cute.
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>>142368461
Did you listen to their song?
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>>142368487
Same way they got away with this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvqXCK9tD7o
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>>142368487
I don't think you understand what it takes for something to be plagarism.
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>>142368604
Yeah. Is that the mistake? I shouldn't be listening to their garbage shitty idol group songs?
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>>142368649
Yeah no, this is even more stretching.
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I like how Macross is so good in creating likable characters.

Except for Kaifun. Fuck him and his cousin.
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>>142368487
My fucking sides.
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>>142368778
That's what he tried to accomplish.
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>>142368690
Maybe buy a better headset and listen again. Try placing a fan in front of your face so you can feel the wind.
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>>142368461
It's shit. No one wants to admit it. The CG somehow looks worse than Frontier, they dropped a clusterfuck of characters in so that they had an excuse to not develop the MCs, and the character motivations are at an all time low.

I think Kawamori just wants to stop making Macross and tried to kill it but it's backfiring on him like Rei in Eva because the current consumerbase from anime has plunged balls deep into waifu idolatry.
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>>142368461
>>142369190
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>>142368461
It's fine, you just have shit taste, it happens. Usually it improves on its won with time. So maybe one day you will understand how wrong you were.

>>142369190
>the very first complain is about CG
You don't even try anymore. Just go back to /m/.
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Would you like the final battle to have upbeat medley like frontier or a sliw sentimental one like DYRL or Giraffe Blues
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>>142368487
Because it's literally one line that sounds similar so it's most likely a coincidence. Both songs become completely different after that.
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>>142369377
I want medley but only final song would be great too. Maybe Freyja will sing runepika while Hayate pew pew the big bad.
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>>142369377
I wouldn't mind both. Medley for the first part and new song for the climax.
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>tfw no Bogue rape Freyja in front of Hayate scene
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>>142369817
Bogue keeps her
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>>142369377
>Would you like the final battle to have upbeat medley like frontier
There has to be a medley. After Frontier's ending, it has to be at that level
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>>142369406
>same genre
>same tempo
>hitting the same notes
>a mere coincidence
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Link to ceros twitter. She doesnt update her pixiv
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>>142370129
https://twitter.com/cero1026
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>>142369190
>they dropped a clusterfuck of characters in so that they had an excuse to not develop the MCs, and the character motivations are at an all time low.
I don't see how they aren't developing the MCs. Hayate is certainly not the same person he was in the first episodes for exaple. And how are the character motivations at a low? One thing I think the show has been good at is letting us know what the characters are about both main and secondary. I mean the attitude toward Messer and Kaname practically changed overnight following the last episode. If anything I'd say Frontier and 7 were the weak ones in terms of character motivations

>I think Kawamori just wants to stop making Macross
On the contrary, he was ready to make a new Macross after Frontier finished but was told to wait
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>>142370098
yeah, fuck off already
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>>142370098
>same tempo
>hitting the same notes
This is wrong
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>Festival episode

Pineapples incoming?
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>>142370098
Stop using Freyja for your shit posts.
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>>142370218
that was a deliberate shit post you're replying to. Maybe even countertrolling. It listed several of the show's strong sides as if they were actually underveleloped weak points. It doesn't make any sense.

I can't see it being meant to be taken seriously
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>mfw no song in Delta will be on the level of 禁断のElixiiiiiiiiiiiir because Walkure is a shit group full of newbies
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>>142370337
Unless Kaname says she's going to make Messer a Jellyfish pineapple cake I don't think we need to worry
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Brera Ranka would have been nice if they werent siblings
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>>142370500
That's one of the much much lower tier Sheryl songs though. You could have shitposted with Universal Bunny and at least used a better song from the movies.
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>>142370500
Clearly Walkure has a different image and song style than Sheryl.
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>>142368461
>I've loved every other Macross (barring 7)
>barring 7
This is implying Frontier is better than 7 or that 7 is bad which is wrong for a wide variety of reasons


>>142370529
I would have preferred this pairing a lot had they not been siblings
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May'n so fucking overrated. I'm we moved away from her to get better songs
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>>142370757
Now I may not be the biggest music buff but there's no need to think that May'n isn't a very good singer. She can sing very well even outside of a recording studio
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>>142370874
>She can sing very well even outside of a recording studio.

Are you implying Junna and Minorin can't? May'n for her part, did one type of song well, but others not so much. I find the new blood more well rounded than her already.
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>>142370996
>Are you implying Junna and Minorin can't?
No. I was just saying that many complain about her voice being autotuned or fake and May'n's singing voice is very good as it is

>May'n for her part, did one type of song well, but others not so much.
Well what do you mean? I think something like Don't be late and Northern Cross are pretty different
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>>142371206
I find them rather similiar, actually.
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>>142358320
>she deserves better

don't worry anon, she'll get what she deserves,
her heart broken
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I have a feeling that Hayate will end up with Freya in the end. In all the previous series the Pilot/Soldier MC shunned the cutesy Idol/Songstress character for the stronger, more mature female. We see little connection between Mirage and Hayate (although that doesnt mean much,) and with Hayate and Freya "resonating" together it seems logical that they will fall in love or end up together. This also seemed plausable to me with Kawamori stating in his recent Forbes interview that "things will be different in Delta from the previous Macross series.". From what I remember he was speaking in reference to the love triangle specifically. If this is so im a little dissapointed as I think Freya is a shit character and Mirage gets buku points from me for being the Granddaughter of Max and Millia! I admit in SDF Macross I was def rooting for Minmay and in Frontier Ranka was by far my choice for Alto over Sheryl but this new runed idol just doesnt steike the right chords with me. Her portrayal of the cute, helpless, ditzy, shy girl arent anyway near as endearing as Ranka or Minmay.

Also I think Frontier was far superior to Delta from what we have seen. The dogfighting and space battle scenes were much more intense, more frequent and detailed than Delta by far. Has anyone noticed that none of the pilots shoot down incoming volleys of missiles, which is a Macross staple?! Now the VF's just let their BS energy shields take the brunt of most attacks! Im very dissapointed in the battles in Delta, they are lackluster and not true to the series at all. Why was Hayate's "Dancing" in his mech a focus in a few earlier episodes but absent and irrelevant now? Mikumo does mention the "Immelman Dance" in the previous ep (ep 9), but Hayate's VF wasn't in Battroid mode or even shown dancing in the slightest? Im REALLY hoping this series improves soon or it will be a major if not the BIGGEST failure for Macross in its history IMHO.
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>>142371631
I don't even know where to begin. It's like you can't type half a sentence without filling it with shit taste.
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>>142371631
>put effort in your bait post this much
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>>142371631
>Her portrayal of the cute, helpless, ditzy, shy girl
Maybe because with the exception of cute, Freyja is absolutely none of those things?

> The dogfighting and space battle scenes were much more intense, more frequent and detailed than Delta by far.
I disagree with this. For two reasons, first of all, the dogfighting in Frontier wasn't really existent. It was just shooting down bugs. The only dogfighting that could actually be dogfighting was when Alto and Brera would face each other. Now this changed in the movies when the Vajra were shown doing some manuevers but for the series, no. The second reason is that how can you not call the dogfighting detailed? We get teamwork, usage of the terrain, clear difference in the space fights and the fights in the atmosphere if you pay attention. It's not that Fronter's fights were bad but to call them superior, I can't agree with.

>as I think Freya is a shit character and Mirage gets buku points from me for being the Granddaughter of Max and Millia!
How does that make Mirage a good character? Sure that is something they could eventually deal with but for now one of the biggest complaints to Mirage is that she really hasn't done anything despite being a Jenius granddaughter

>Has anyone noticed that none of the pilots shoot down incoming volleys of missiles
That happened in the latest episode and the first episode.
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>>142358320

What? Hayate is clearly the best boy. Confident, fun, cute looking and obnoxious only to a certain point, who is also pretty sensitive.

I'm liking both the main characters in delta more than in the past series, that's the main reason I'm enjoying delta so far.

Talk about deserving better, I think Kaname deserves better than an emo self destructive mutant.
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>>142371877
We actually have both an instance of missiles being shot down and dodged, in the very first episode. Both ways of dealing with an itano circus have been in macross for decades. The bait post is low quality.
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>>142372049
>I think Kaname deserves better than an emo self destructive mutant.
He may be a self-destructive mutant. But he's a waifufag self-destructive mutant.

Also I wouldn't call him emo. Alto is the closest if I had to I think of as emo (and honestly, I wouldn't agree with that either). Messer is just a serious soldier
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>>142372049
Said mutant would agree with you.

Now head outside, them's fighting words.
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Is Messer the Roy of Macross Triangle?
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>>142372307
I think the Roy character was split into Messer and Arad. Messer gets the "ace" part and the side relationship with a "Claudia", Arad gets the leader position and guy who offers terrible yet poignant advnce
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>>142371631
>delusional Freyjashitter
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>>142372307
He's more like Max combined with Guld.
Arad is more of a Roy, without the remarkable piloting and womanizing
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>>142372415
this is how shitposting attracts shitposting, everyone
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>>142372438
>Guld
In what regard?
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>>142372049
Messer is the real MC he will get all the bitches
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>>142371631
>Freyja
>helpless
>ditzy
>shy

What? She might be a country bumpkin of a literal isolated planet, but she's pretty smart (look how quickly she realized that was cat papa in the valk), determinate and courageous.
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>>142371877
>>142372415
Best love story ever told.
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>>142372532
It's a bit superficial of me, I'll admit. But the really strict, pretty dour attitude combined with a hidden madness underneath the surface.

Superficial similiaries really.
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>>142372558
He doesn't need all the bitches. He just needs his waifu
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>>142372532
He loses control of himself for something that's not really his fault.
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>2008
Ranka is going to win!

>2016
Freyja is going to win!
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>>142372662
Guld was more of a passive-aggressive dick than having a dour attitude I'd say

>>142372694
Okay, I guess this is close enough

I should probably make it clear that I hate Guld so comparing Messer to Guld got a bit of a "what?" from me
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>>142368461
>>142369190
AND WE AT ROBOTECHX.COM ARE ALL LAUGHING
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>>142373189
>2008
>Ranka is going to win!
Nobody seriously believed this after episode 5. By that point Rankafans were on suicide watch.

In comparison, Delta has only just now started to have some emotional response from the triangle and hasn't really had any shipping yet
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>>142373225
Yeah, no. Sheryl wasn't very popular early on, and you trying to claim that you and everyone else were on her side by episode 5 isn't gonna change history.
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>>142373464
>Sheryl wasn't very popular early on

t. Rankafag
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Freyja is nothing like Ranka why would you compare them.
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>>142355430

SHE'S GOING FULL RANKA !!!!
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>>142373189
Why did you believe that Mirage is going to win? Older girls meme?
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>>142373545
They're just shitposting.
Like this one.>>142373545
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>>142373574
Mirage is the woman
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>>142373688
Shit I mean this one.>>142373561
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I'm rewatching Frontier because of Delta, and I'm enjoying it much more this time around. Frontier moved so much faster with the romance and had a lot more action, and the love triangle parts are fun to watch. I like Freyja more than any of the girls in Frontier, though.
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>>142373464
>Sheryl wasn't very popular early on
You're saying I'm rewriting history

>>142373705
You need to do better than that in order to justify this. Mirage has no immediate traits that makes me think "well I'm sure these two will be an item". Not yet anyway.
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>>142373791
Freyja had plenty of time and she's a strong friend only.
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>>142371631
>Im REALLY hoping this series improves soon or it will be a major if not the BIGGEST failure for Macross in its history IMHO.
Cool story retard. Try paying attention to the show because you're obviously talking out of your ass. You're comment is nothing more than an elaborate and thinly veiled shitpost.
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>>142373225
>Nobody seriously believed this after episode 5
That's a lie.
Also by episode 9 Frontier's relationships were significantly less one-sided compared to Delta yet there are fuckton of miragefaggots shitposting in these threads. But I'm sure that several years from now people will be saying "no one believed that Mirage would win after episode 5 (moonlight dancing)".
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>>142373746
>Frontier moved so much faster with the romance
Frontier was intentionally a shipfest. That doesn't make it better. That's like saying 7 was lesser for barely having any focus on the romance

>and the love triangle parts are fun to watch.
While I don't think it was the worst at this, I can't really agree because while it was a little fun in the first third, it feels like all the love triangle stuff amounted to was shitting on Ranka or making Ranka feel like shit
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>>142373746
I'm pretty sure I like all of Walkure + Mirage over the girls in Frontier.
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>Rankafags trying to rewrite history
>I-I l-lliked t-the D-Delta girls better!

Kek
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>>142373859
So is Mirage?

Also, Hayate and Freyja have had much more "moments" between them. This most recent episode was the closest I think Mirage and Hayate have been but it was mainly them talking about Messer and Hayate bringing up how much he believed in Freyja
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>>142374018
Mirage hasn't even begin
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>>142373878
You're being overly defensive now. That faggot didn't neccessarily say that frontier was better for it. Though he may have meant that. Anyway that's his perogative. I like Delta's pacing more.
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>>142374033
I don't doubt that. I'm talking about what I'm seeing before me right now
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>>142373949
Well, people like different things, but
>liking "huge tits and nothing else" Makina and "we needed a /u/ pair for our titty monster" Reina over Sheryl
there's no excuse to such shit taste. Kill yourself.
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>>142373870
There is nothing one-sided in Delta because there is nothing between Hayate an Freyja other than friendship, you must be blind.
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>>142374045
How am I being defensive? I never indicated that I said his opinions were bad. I'm just giving mine.
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>>142373989
I do like the Delta girls better. I never really liked Sheryl, she wasn't terrible but not someone I cared for and Ranka was such a fucking diappointment.
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>>142374075
But Mikumo has plenty of Sheryl DNA in her since chapter 0.87
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>>142373859
Freyja doesn't even know if she has feelings for Hayate.
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>>142373989
Ranka and Sheryl are shit
>>142373949
This
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>>142374125
By instantly saying "That doesn't make it better"

that comes off as defensive.
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>>142374142
So she's a child
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>>142373574
>Older girls meme?
I'm not saying Mirage is gonna win or anything, it's too soon, but you can't call it a meme when it always happened in Macross.

Will this time be different? Maybe, Freyja has good chances.
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>>142374075
You know I am a Sherylfag as much as the next guy, but you're sounding no different from the people who think Minmay is the best girl and get emotional about it
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>>142368461
>>142369190
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>>142374033
Neither has Freyja and they are soulmate tier.
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>>142370500
If you are going to shitpost atleast use an actual good song
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>>142374199
If i'm the next guy, then sorry, I'm no Sherylfag not a Rankafag either though, senpai

Not that detracts much from what you meant to say, it just irks me when its assumed we all had to like her character.
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>>142374091
One sided relationship. I didn't use word triangle and I didn't imply "love". Reminder that there was no love between Sheryl and Alto in Frontier episode 5 too.
Freyja and Hayate are extremely close friends and they are only one step away from their first inexperienced love. Meanwhile Mirage is only a colleague.
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>>142373225
>Nobody seriously believed this after episode 5
Kawamori gave them a hope with seikan hikou scene and then fucked their hope up with episode 20. Waifu wars is cruel.
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>>142374186
That wasn't how that was meant to come across. I was just trying to say how Macross shows do different approaches when it comes to their romance.
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>>142374315
>Kawamori gave them a hope with seikan hikou scene
The Seikan Hikou scene was a pretty big boost but at the same time I seem to remember in that same episode, Sheryl also was crying saying she wanted to give Alto the sky as a birthday present. So if anything he left even more fuel for the fire
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>>142373225
This

You can tell that they don't want a repeat scenario again so this time they shelved the winning girl until further notice

Ranka getting destroyed after every episode save for the couple of episodes near the end was hilarious
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>>142374240
>soulmates
freyjafags can't be this delusional, right?
thus guy is trolling

Not even Sheryl and Alto were soulmates until Northern Cross episode
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>>142374194
Umm adults experience that too.
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>>142374371
Freaking Frontier was like that. It made you feel good for one girl and then bad for the other one at the same time. Eps 8 and 12 were good examples of this.
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>>142374537
Not in Macross, in Macross they are called losers
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>>142374327
They do, and not just the romance at that. Anyway I do like what they're doing now more. Maybe I would like a shippingfest like Frontier more if the trio had clicked with me more, as it stands I never liked any of F's triangle.
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>>142374509
They were never soulmates in the show, retard.
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Kawamori said that he was kind of disappointed in how the fans seemed to only focus on the shipping and nothing else during Frontier's run so the stuff about the "light triangle" and how Delta's approaching romance seems to be a direct response to that

Hell, you could even call Macross 30 another response since that is "Choose your own girl" game
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>>142374509
I don't know about soulmates but Hayate and Freyja can resonate with each other. Who else can do that? Kaname and Messer as we saw this episode. This is intentional.
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>Nobody seriously believed Ranka will win after episode 5
Just a quick search:
http://desustorage.org/a/search/text/ranka%20win/start/2008-05-04/order/asc/
Also check replies to those posts.
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>>142374634
freyjafags...
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>>142374719
>sheryl is a bitch sometimes but they make it pretty clear that she is lonely and really likes alto, which is probably why /a/ doesnt hate her the way they hated hiromi. hiromi for teh fuckin win. i think ranka is going to end up with him tho which sucks.

Holy shit did we really type like this 8 years ago?
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>>142374718
Each Walkure is gonna resonate in a different episode. Every single one of them.

Are they all in love an nobody noticed?
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>>142374751
>...
stop
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So who trying to rewrite history then now hmmm?
I never even said I liked Ranka. I just happen to have a working memory and don't need to lie to myself.
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>>142374804
learn2macross newfag
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>>142374719
>thinking Sheryl is like Misa

How the fuck? She even had that "bored with super star lifestyle" air of DYRL Minmay.
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>>142374719
>They are giving Sheryl and Alto too much time together in the early episodes. That's a bad thing in Macross.
Ranka will win.

FREYJA FUCKING CONFIRMED
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>>142374802
I didn't say love. Though I'd estimate love is a part of it. I'm saying there's a direct connection

>>142374836
Do you know how few people watched SDF/DYRL these days? Think about how much worse it was then when there hadn't been any TV presence in years
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>>142374719
Why are you doing this? I wanted to forget those days.
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>People still trying to predict the triangle even though Kawamori hsa said multiple times that this time it will be different.
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Does /a/ understand the kind of intimacy required to become the next Max and Millia ??

That's right, neither Freyjafags
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>>142374929
>There are people in this thread who haven't watched DYRL

Like come on faggots, its one movie.
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>>142374836
But people hate Minmay so much that they couldn't believe that their dear Sheryl was a modern Minmay. DYRL's yeah, but not Misa at all.
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>>142374981
I'm reading those threads right now. It's the same shit as now, stupid comparisons, stupid parallels, literally nothing has changed.
>Kawamori wanted to save us all by dropping love triangle from Delta. But producers forced him to include it.
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>>142375030
>Does /a/ understand the kind of intimacy required to become the next Max and Millia ??
Beating someone at an arcade game and then a poorly animated knife fight?
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>>142374792
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/14989366/#14989366

Check this one. If you think Delta has terrible shitposting than go and read that
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>>142375078
And that was infinitely better than the movie version.
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>>142375075
They were more vicious and more numerous back then. This is actually more of a meta thread right now anyway.
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>>142375030
Nice try freyjafag, Mirage and Hayate look like best bros in that pic
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>>142375075
I'd have prefered a simple romance with no triangle shenanigans involved. Fuck those producers.
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>>142375030
Yeah. You need to be rivals from different sides of front line who overcome racial, social and political prejudices in the name of love. Mirage and Hayate have literally nothing of that.
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>>142375229
>Fuck those producers.
That's what Kaname did.
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>>142375190
>reading comprehension

>>142375030
They can't read any kind of sign, must be underage or something.
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>>142375229
>>142375075
(To be fair, Kawamori didn't directly say which of the three aspects he wanted to remove. It's just that given his love for jets and songs, it's pretty obvious)

If I had to make a guess, I'd say that the producers convinced him otherwise because people have a set idea of that every Macross must have the three aspects of triangle love, singing and mecha. I mean, to be honest, Kawamori said this as well during promotion of Delta which is why he also said things wouldn't come together the same way.

To some, removing the love triangle would be like removing the singing or the jets or that the robots can transform into jets. It just wouldn't be Macross.
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>>142375030
People said that their VFs are red and blue like Max and Milia. I'm so confused. Mirage's VF is purple isn't it?
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>>142375140
How it was in the movie version ?
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>>142375332
>They can't read any kind of sign
What sign should I be seeing? Haven't we been complaining all this time about how Mirage really hasn't done anything neither love related or story related? Sure her relationship with Hayate has grown but she herself hasn't really done anything so what signs am I really missing here?

Even the scene where Mirage talks about Max and Millia, she was insinuating toward Freyja's relationship with Hayate
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>>142375351
Yeah, this is true too. Well, at least the triangle in Delta seems to be way less melodramatic and intense than the one in Frontier. 7's was also barely there.
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>>142375380
It was fucking nothing. Max sees Millia's giant face after shooting her down and says she's beautiful, basically their relationship didn't really make it into the movie.
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>>142375375
Yes it is. The VF-1EXs in episode 3 were red and blue though and that was a pretty direct reference
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>>142375351
>>To some, removing the love triangle would be like removing the singing or the jets or that the robots can transform into jets. It just wouldn't be Macross.
While I'm not a fan of the triangles, I think that too, you need the triangle in Macross.
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>>142375375
Yes, and she's color coded purple in merch. Guess who is red? Guess who was actually compared to Milia in the very show? Same character.
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But which Walkure/Delta knows how to please a man ?
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>>142375422
>Even the scene where Mirage talks about Max and Millia, she was insinuating toward Freyja's relationship with Hayate
Oh, cmon gosh oh cmon cmon cmon whats happening hear!@$
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>>142375380
They have an awesome fight, then Max sees Millia's face and calls her beautiful and then the next scene with them is them fighting together

Why haven't you watched DYRL yet?
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>>142375580
>Oh, cmon gosh oh cmon cmon cmon whats happening hear!@$
The scene was literally relating the situation in Space War I with the current Windermere conflict. Why would Mirage be talking about herself? That doesn't even make sense
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>>142375583
I don't do retcon movies, only original stuff for me.
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>>142350685
When have you started to care more about this pairing than the main triangle?
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>>142375486
All Walkure virgins.
Messer - virgin.
Chuck - womanizer.
Arad - totally not a virgin.
Ernest - totally not a virgin
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>>142375651
What main triangle? I don't anything.
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>>142375624
>I don't do retcon movies, only original stuff for me.
You know literally everything is canon right?

Delta even referenced both SDF and DYRL in one scene to indicate as such
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>>142375651
Main triangle is yet to start.
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>>142375651
That would imply there was a triangle yet
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>>142369318
>Just go back to /m/.
It's funny because /m/ seems to like it as well.
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>>142375422
>Even the scene where Mirage talks about Max and Millia, she was insinuating toward Freyja's relationship with Hayate
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>Messer retires
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>>142375624
go watch it you faggot. Did you even watch SDF?
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>Aerial knights attack
>Delta squad launches to meet them
>Walkure gets ready to sing
>Keith and Messer meet
>Shinigamii! <3
>Shiro kishi...
>they started fighting and no one seems able to keep up with them
>Walkure is singing in the meantime
>Bogue shows up and makes a nasty comment about idol fucking shits
>he makes a run for it and tries to attack them
>Hayate notices it and shouts Freyjas name
>Bogue is almost about to hit Walkure but Hayate intercepts
>Freyja shouts Hayates name while cumming with her hair penis
>Hayate chases Bogue away
>the leader of the knights calls for retreat
>repeat this for 5+ episodes

Where do we go from here?
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>>142375140
DYRL was better than the series overall.
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>>142376041
Some parts are worse though. But fuck. It's a classic on so many levels. So fucking many levels. Like just the song itself is THE anime song.
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>>142356194
Maybe Messer isn't retiring.
We know that he goes to the festival (preview with Arad and him). Maybe it's the same situation as in a welcome party. He goes to the festival for a short while and goes back to Elysion for a standby.
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>>142376041
The movies in general are better. They learn from the mistakes they do in the series.
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>>142376025
You can do this sort of thing with a lot of mecha series especially the classic ones. As long as it's not like 7's "let's put a lot of stock footage on top of Totsugeki Love Heart", I think I can deal.
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>>142356194
Maybe Messer is just helping with festival stuff.
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>>142376247
Meanwhile, Kaname dances with Arad.
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>>142376025
I'm enjoy watching it though. It's like watching a weekly super heroes cartoon.
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>>142376302
>on top of totsugeki love heart

you mean planet dance
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>shiperfags
Thanks god that Delta has Mikumo who's LITERALLY breaking the triangles.
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>>142376653
>LITERALLY breaking the triangles
what?
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>>142376708
She will steal Freyja from Hayate and rape Heinz.
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>>142376708
see bottom,

too much meta tho.
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>>142376653
But by breaking the triangles, she's creating even more triangles.

Sasuga Kawamori.
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>>142376653
>breaking triangles

Nigga wut, she barely does anything besides singing
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Someone post the newest FreFre faces collage please. I need it for reasons.
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>>142376653
WHALE
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>>142376783
>Broken (glass?) triangles
>mermaid tail
>Leaves and flowers forming from her hair
What does all this mean?
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>>142377137
Her hair is her Stand.
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>>142377137
That she came from the water.
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>>142377137
She's Kawamori.
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>>142376938
He's talking about the picture
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Will his onii chan ever notice him?
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>>142378162
He will be used as tool by him and then discarded
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>>142375085
The shitposting confirms it. Mirage will win.
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>>142378454
your shitposting just canceled out the shitposting of the past and now Mirage winning is deconfirmed good job
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>>142375788
A boogeyman.
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>>142350718
hello what is that series in the second row
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>>142350851
THIS PLZ!
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>>142380752
If the first row is Macross, the 3rd row is Macross and the 4th row is Macross then what could the 2nd row be?
It's Macross.
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>>142380752
Macross Zero, short OVA thing that's good for the dogfights, otherwise just watch the Frontier episode that copied it scene for scene.
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>>142351878
The Messerbowl is the only championship worth winning in the show.
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>>142350851
I just came here to tell you this.
PT, you're still a goofy faggot.
And remember, Mirage will win.
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>>142382500
>Mirage will win
this meme is so stupid
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>>142382546
>Mirage will win
>meme

That's reality Freyjafag.
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>>142382573
stop forcing this
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>>142376996
SQUID
>>
Sometimes I'm thinking about screencapping all those "mirage will win" posts, put them into one big collage and re-post in every Macross Delta thread after it finishes airing. I don't want those shitters to backpedal and switch to Freyja side when she wins. I don't want to see posts like >>142373225 that "nobody believed that Mirage will win". I want to shame those retarded fuckers forever for all their delusional shitposting.
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>>142382860
>Freyjafag in full damage control
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>>142382860
This mad.
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Ernest is a big guy.
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>>142376653
BREAKING THE TRIANGLES
WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>142382075
>Nobody will ever discuss Zero's actual plot in a serious manner
>I am the only one who appreciated it's unique usage of having island culture vs. modern culture
>Zero is probably the most important entry for the lore up until Delta came out and yet is thought of as not better than Plus even though the only thing Plus outdoes it at is VF combat and nothing else
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>>142383282
Because it's shit
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>>142383282
Fine, anon. I'll watch Zero.
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>>142382955
I am. It was fine until the last week when those 2 stupid interviews were posted. It's not shipping wars anymore, it's miragefags shitposting for the sake of shitposting.
Do you see Freyjagods shitposting about Mirage? No. They just state clear facts like for example that Mirage gets almost zero screen time and no character development. That she is barely irrelevant for the plot (at least for now). That Hayate's friendship with Mirage is not as close as with Freyja.
But miragefags are just plainly shitposting. "U mad", "on suicide watch", "full damage control" and other memes are the only types of posts you can see from them.
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>>142383282
In terms of "lore" yeah Zero has plenty, but the story is just trash compared to Plus and none of the characters are particularly good.
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>>142374792
Probably not you, as you're obviously new if you have to ask that question.
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>>142383282
Between lore or a good story, I pick a good story. Zero was boring.

>>142383367
>Do you see Freyjagods shitposting about Mirage? No
I don't care about ship wars, but this is plain bullshit.
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>>142383367
>That she is barely irrelevant for the plot (at least for now)
Fuck. I meant "barely relevant".
Also she is ugly, but that's a little bit subjective.
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>>142383376
>but the story is just trash compared to Plus and none of the characters are particularly good.
But I disagree.

Look, I won't deny that Zero's story is incredibly confusing at first watch but it's not a bad story. At least it was actually about something. It actually explored culture. What was Plus? That wasn't even a story, it was 4 episodes of "mature" romance drama with sick-nasty fights. Also I absolutely hated everybody in Plus. I never got an urge to want someone to die or thought someone was as lame as Guld and Myung were
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>>142383466
>Also she is ugly
See, you were making good points and then you had to get all opinionated
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>>142382860

It's an anonymous board, you can't hold people accountable for their previous posts.
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>>142383432
Zero's story was better than Plus'

Plus hardly has a fucking story past the romance.
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>>142383591
>Plus hardly has a fucking story
Then what did I watch?
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>>142383591
Sorry, I wasn't comparing with Plus, I was just talking in general. I found Zero boring as fuck.
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>>142383623
You watched basically an excuse to get some awesome VF fight animation.
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>>142383644
that makes no sense, just because you dislike the story doesn't mean it's not there
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Is there any reason to watch the first Frontier movie if I just finished the series? It's just a retelling of the series, right?
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>>142383681
I'm not that guy. I know it has a story. I just don't think it was a very good one

>>142383692
>It's just a retelling of the series, right?
No. There are similar parts but it changes a lot of story around and adds some new aspects.
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>>142383692
Story isn't a mess, Ranka isn't as shit of a character, new songs and shows, musical prison break, there's a bad guy beyond "the bugs did it", Sheryl wins solidly.
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>>142383692
The movies are an upgrade of the series. Everything is better.
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>>142383746
Sheryl already won in the TV series solidly.
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>>142383282
I'm watching it right now (on 3rd episode) and I'm struggling. There is almost no singing and it's so damn boring.
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>>142383825
That's just being delusional, everyone hated that end because of how indecisive it was.
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>>142383825
>Sheryl already won in the TV series solidly.
Yes but some people needed direct confirmation. Also even if you think so, SKY END was a meme around the internet for years until the movies came out

People still think Sheryl is in that coma at the end of the second movie for example because it didn't immediately show her waking up
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>>142383861
The sky "end" was just a consolation prize for buttdevastated Rankafags, everyone with a brain knew that Sheryl already won.
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>>142383825
Thank you, a sane person.
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>>142383872
>People still think Sheryl is in that coma at the end of the second movie for example because it didn't immediately show her waking up

To be fair, given how the movie ends, it's not weird to think that. It's true that Kawamori said that she wakes up and Alto comes back but the movie ends with her in coma and Alto missing.
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>>142383872
>>142383888
>>142383905
Shipping doesn't count for shit when nothing happens in the show. It was a clear open ending, no one won and no one lost.
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>>142384020
>It was a clear open ending
Alto and Sheryl kissed, fucked and he was going to confess . That's more closed than 90% of anime romances.
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>>142383825
>in the end Alto completely ignores his own feelings to Sheryl and goes with "you both are my wings"
>Ranka says that she won't give up implying that it's not decided at least from her point of view
>Sheryl accepts Ranka's challenge. It means that she's not sure about Alto's decision too even though they even had sex
>SOLIDLY
It would be solid without the last scene. Last scene was a stupid reset, a step back. If romance/harem anime taught me anything it's that this situation will lead in another 2 seasons of misunderstandings and main characters being to afraid to finally confess.
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>>142384020
>when nothing happens in the show.
They had sex anon

They had sex, and were living together and he was going to confess to her before she told him not to (with another kiss)

They just pussied out.
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>>142384075
It's 2016 and Rankafags are still bitter and delusional

The same delusional people who defend Freyja
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>>142384150
Yeah, let's just ignore that Freyja and Ranka couldn't be more opposite characters. No, you have to only like one kind of person forever.

Guess since I like Freyja, I have to be a Minmay and Mylene fan too then?
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>>142384150
Don't do that.
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>>142384075
>>142384145
>>142384150
You can blame it all you want on the staff or just whine that it was totally a hidden Sheryl end but the fact is, the series ended openly, neither side winning or losing. Nothing you do will change that.
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>>142384109
NOBODY is stupid enough to not realize Sheryl won the series, it's pure denial or trolling, period.

Simplest exercise: where is Alto sleeping the night of chapter 25 ??
A: with Sheryl, that it. There is just not other place, think about it for a second.

>d-d-demo he never confessed
Are you really implying they just have daily sex and never say a word to each other in the middle of it ??
really?
on hours of sex?
on weeks of sex?
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>>142384370
*Sex* is a courtesy word btw, YOU KNOW it's love-making
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>>142384370
did otakus flip out when sheryl became used goods?
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>>142384437
Sheryl finding happiness with her one true love is rage inducing for her fans ?
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>>142384370
>NOBODY is stupid enough to not realize Sheryl won the series
Except for authors, right?
Who said it's an open ending with no one winning, right?
But obviously some anon knows better.

>Are you really implying they just have daily sex and never say a word to each other in the middle of it ??
I can name few shows where relationships were either completely reset or MC even picked another girl after sex.
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>>142384496
>Who said it's an open ending with no one winning, right?
When did they said that?
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>>142384496
Author's words don't change the meaning behind when the show speaks for itself.
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>>142384496
>I can name few shows
Each circumstances are different, Alto and Sheryl were not pretending on their feelings.

Name them? I got curious
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>>142384539
>- I've heard about it in many places already, but since a lot of people are talking about it, let's start witht the love triangle. The love of Alto, Ranka, and Sheryl...why didn't you conclude it?
>Yoshino: Whether or not to conclude it was quite a last-minute decision, actually. Like, looking at the final scene, inside everyone...we never explicitly stated it, but..."which will win, who will stick together?" It shouldn't become that kind of attitude. "It might not have to be like that," was the feeling I got.
>Every member of the staff spoke out about it, but for a quiet and unsociable person like Alto to act naturally, he should love the sky more than girls, right? So, you can't force a decision, you have to let the other people choose their own path.
>"Won't the fans be angry about it?"
>"Yeah. But, well, that's okay. I'm prepared for that."
>That was the kind of conversations I had. Afterwards, when everyone had given different feedback, I think Kawamori-san got a little upset. At least, he looked worried about it.
>However, when we went to see the Budokan Concert, and saw Sheryl and Ranka sharing the same stage, I said to Kawamori-san, "Not having a conclusion was good, wasn't it?" "Yes, it was. Looking at it now, and looking at the stage, it seems like it would feel kind of strange if we had had one.*" (Laugh)

>>142384548
The show spoke in the last 5 minutes. And it said "fuck everyone".
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>>142384636
>The show spoke in the last 5 minutes
Followed immediately by a movie announcement
I wonder what that meant?
Thank God we have the capacity to deduce such simple things.
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>>142384770
SDF, Plus, and 7 all had movies, it's pretty standard for something as big as Macross.
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>>142384636
>The show spoke in the last 5 minutes. And it said "fuck everyone".
We all know that they more or less just ended things open. What we're saying is that anybody with a brain could tell that it was over before the end
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>>142384636
>Whether or not to conclude it was quite a last-minute decision
As obvious as ineffective

>"Not having a conclusion was good, wasn't it?"
Makes you think what the people with money wish for? more money
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>>142384617
>Name them? I got curious
If you want reset situation then watch REC. It's very short, but cute. Main characters have sex in episode 1, but then heroine goes full tsundere almost till the end of the show.
If you want an anime where MC changes girl after sex then watch Gundam SEED.
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>>142384933
Anon, there's no money in anime production, anyone greedy wouldn't stay around for even a year.
>>
Why the fuck is every goddamn episode of this show this bitch getting mad at Basara over something, jesus
>>
>>142384956
SEED is a pun?
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>>142385034
Blame the tsundere craze of the 90's
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>>142385403
I'm surprised Mylene isn't more namedropped in terms of old tsunderes.

On that note, Mylene really comes across more of a modern type tsundere than classic type even though M7 was the 90s
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>>142385403
You mean how she never transitions from tsun to dere and just keeps switching modes?
>>
Remember how everybody was saying Mirage was gonna be a tsundere
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>>142385780
She is tsundere
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>>142385780
I don't, I jumped into it naked from ep 1. Well, I thought she was totally gonna be a tsundere.
>>
>>142385034
It's a good thing Basara gives zero shit about her
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>>142385815
No
>>
>>142385780
I seems they went past tsun (became good friends) before the actual romance stuff started.
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>>142385996
She was tsundere for the first 3-4 episodes

Now they're the best of friends and the focus isn't even on them

In 3-4 more episodes they would be lovers
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>>142386396
And she went from tsun to dere completely off screen.
I bet she will fall in love with Hayate off screen.
And then lose off screen too.
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>>142386672
>lose
>Mirage
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>>142386396
>She was tsundere
She wasn't, she simply didn't like him.
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>>142386396
>She was tsundere for the first 3-4 episodes
That's not what a tsundere is.

The first three episodes, she straight up did not like Hayate. That's not tsundere, that's an accurate response to someone who is a dick. Then, once he stopped being a dick, they immediately became friends. That's just logical emotional response, not jumping between tsun and dere
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>>142386672
>And she went from tsun to dere completely off screen.
"no longer disliking someone" does not equal going from tsun to dere. And it wasn't offscreen. It started in episode 5 when Hayate stood up for her and Freyja in front of Messer and then came to a mutual respect and understanding in episode 6
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>>142386695
Freyja: goddess of love
Mirage: illusion, without substance or reality.

Mmm.
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>>142384109
But they are viewings. He loves them both, one as a sister like figure and the other as a lover. Ranka didn't know about them fucking. And Sheryl loves Ranka, she is not going to shut her down just after Ranka gains some confidence.
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>>142387256
>viewings
What the fuck. His wings.
>>
>>142387256
>loves them both
Nice delusion Rankafag.
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>>14238495
>telling people to watch SEED for any reason
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>>142383692
>It's just a retelling of the series, right?
yes, it's a retelling, not a recap movies. learn the difference.
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>>142387470
Fukuda Gundam was the better Gundam of its time.
>>
THIS FIGHTING IS SENSELESS
LISTEN TO MY SONG

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>142387500
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>>142387500
No

>>142387256
>He loves them both, one as a sister like figure and the other as a lover.
Way to cheap out
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>>142387603
24 JIKAN UGOMEKU MACHI WO
TONIGHT TONIGHT
KAKINUKERU
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Messah is best!
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>>142387256
But Ranka FELT THEM having sex, every hug kiss and thrust between them. That's canon.
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>>142388021
Too based to live
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>>142386396
>She was tsundere for the first 3-4 episodes
She was never one. Being angry because the guy is skipping classes it's not being a tsundere.
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>>142386396
She wasn't tsundere. She was rightly pissed because Hayate was being a complete fuckwit.
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>>142383973
>To be fair, given how the movie ends, it's not weird to think that. It's true that Kawamori said that she wakes up and Alto comes back but the movie ends with her in coma and Alto missing.

The last scene of the movie is in the credits, is Sheryl mouthing some words and her earring glowing the way it does when it's in contact with the one Alto has
>>
>>142388433
I really don't remember that. I'm not saying you're lying, but I'm sure I watched the credits and I don¡t remember it.
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>>142388510
It happens

Also, the song that plays in the credits is supposed to be Ranka and Sheryl's concert after she wakes up. The new blu-ray of the movies had to make up a new credit sequence for it since people still weren't sure apparently. And it makes it a bit more obvious Alto comes back
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>>142388510

It's at the very end of the first credits song, after all the shots showing everything that happened in the story.
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>>142388510
It was a few seconds right before the side screen fades. Her earring sparkles and her mouth moves a bit.
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>>142388510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5PO6tttHZQ&feature=youtu.be&t=3m9s
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>>142388726
>>142388778
>>142388793
I guess the version I downloaded didn't have that for some reason.
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>>142388726
What did they do?
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>>142388510
>>142388778
Alto comes back in a meteor.

Anyone has the screencap?
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>>142388800
Was this the prototype for the CG dancing that would eventually be used for AKB0048?
>>
Is there an equivalent of the frontier lieutenant that gets fucked by the enemy?
>>
>>142389060
Cathy? She was explicitly modeled from Misa.
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>>142353798
>not blue haired kid with purple/red rune

They could have done this so much better.
>>
New
>>142390457
>>142390457
>>
>>142376631
>>142376302
Now that I think about it, those ~15-20 episodes of absolutely fucking nothing happening are my only complaint about 7.

MC was a best, music was great, animation was good enough, etc

>>142383473
Culture is pointless to discuss if there's nothing to drive interest in WHY you should care about the culture.
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