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Vollstandig wings next?
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No, we need at least two more power ups before we get to that point.
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>>142324147
Eh unless Yhwach is going to pull wings out of his ass I fail to see why Ichigo would, especially since Yhwach can likely just Auchwalen the wings right off of Ichigo.

If anything, the 'second form' will be Mugetsu-esque.
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>>142324672
Wings have been purely cosmetic since Kubo decided to have everyone fly as they pleased. Which seems to come and go based on reishi concentration.

The wings would just be showing that he's using his Quincy powers and Yhwach shouldn't be able to steal Ichigo's abilities while he's using Hollow reiatsu.
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>>142325085
I thought of that too, I guess it depends on how deeply assimilated his Hollow reiatsu is with his Quincy powers. Honestly I just think angel wings would look silly on Ichigo.
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>>142325085
Actually it's almost always running and leaping around on air rather than free flight.
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>>142325148
I mean we're already approaching deviantart-tier designs so it couldn't be that far of a leap right?

>2 swords
>asymmetrical armor
>1 eye differently colored
>1 horn

And if there's ever a proper colored version then part of his hair will probably be colored white.
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>>142325331
The single horn is obviously a reference to his Hollow; all I'm saying is that OMZ never actually used a 'winged' form so for Ichigo to suddenly be able to use Volstandig would be a disappointment. I'm expecting something more like Mugetsu.
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Aizen when?
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>>142324147

Maybe.
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what do you think his Bankai is going to look like?

also: witch cero is stronger? Gran Rey or Oscuras?
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>>142326016
>what do you think his Bankai is going to look like?
Remember when White and Tenza Zangetsu fused together in Ichigo's inner world? I imagine something like that.

>Gran Rey or Oscuras?
Last thread most people said Oscuras, and I'd be inclined to agree with them.
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>>142326016
probably a more destructive mugetsu, combined with cero. I imagine it distorting space/time and ywach's almighty.
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>>142326016
I hope his base Bankai is simple as a callback to the original reveal and then gets built on as he fully utilizes his powers.

Also I don't believe we really have any way of measuring the two since there was only 2 Espada that used Ceros in release and one who used GRC unreleased with no real common ground.
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>>142326166
>Remember when White and Tenza Zangetsu fused together in Ichigo's inner world? I imagine something like that.

but isnt that what he looks like now?

I always thought his bankai would look like the White hollow, at least a partial mask but 2 horns and both swords turn into 2 tensa zangetsus, like the White hollow had the 2 sword arms

but now with this hot mess idfk
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>>142326429
Right now we have Ichigo with two blades (White = Hollow, Black = OMZ) and a single hollow horn. Those swords are presumably in 'Shikai' but there's no way to tell. If he's only using the Hollow blade right now, the next step would be incorporating the other blade into it as well, which would likely give him a form half-Hollow and half-Yhwach. It's still too early to tell exactly how they would integrate into each other, but they've done so at least once before (Mugetsu). So I imagine we'll end up with a form that borrows both from his Hollow appearance and his traditional Bankai. Perhaps the blades will recombine in order to show their new unity?
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>>142324147
IF YOU WANNA SEE SOME ACTION
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>>142326932
>this chapter
>Gran Rey Cero
>this song pops into your head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suwfJMiXauU
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>>142326932
YOU GOTTA BE THE CENTER OF AT-TRAC-TION
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>>142327056
Shit now I just want to keep posting tracks from Hueco Mundo; is that still on topic?
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>>142327158
enjoyed that, please do
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>>142327089
MAKE SO THAT THEY GOT THEIR EYES ON YOU
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>>142327253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5plk8eNHMHU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuvElD7MGh8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVnQO9XaKB0

Soundtrack is Pro-tier
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>>142327056
Shieeeeet . If there will be an anime adaptation , this better pops up when he transforms.
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>>142327056
>not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMWnoJhBNF8
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>>142327385
I'd rather stand up be strong, it sounds badass just like ichigo is
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>>142327330
Nube negra is the shit! Man! This feels so nostalgic.
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>>142327288
ACT LIKE YOU KNOW

THIS IS YOUR WAY TO SHINE

ACT LIKE YOU KNOW

THERE'S ONLY STARS IN THE FIRE LINE
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>New Bleach anime by ufotable with a yuki kajiura soundtrack

I can only dream
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>>142327627
Shiro sagisu would do to. He did fuckin great job with the OST.
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>>142327627
Honestly would rather an OVA at this point

>yfw Netflix buys the rights to it
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Lanza del relampago > cero oscuras >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gran rey cero
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>>142327664
Yuki's soundtracks are so good with dark anime.
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>>142327798
But Lanza isn't a cero?
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>>142327798
Grimmjow said gran rey cero is the strongest cero
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>>142327923
Grimmjow is also an idiot who probably didn't know that Obscuras existed.
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>>142327886

Lanza is basically a stable cero turned into a weapon
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>>142328080
>all energy attacks are Ceros

okay.jpg
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>>142328152

when it comes from a hollow, yes
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>>142327983
Isn't Oscuras Ulquiorra's grand rey cero?
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>>142327983
Ulquiorra said Cero Obscuras is the power of a released espada.

Grimmjow said Gran Rey Cero is the strongest, ultimate Cero.

I wonder which is stronger.
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>>142328285
Since when?
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>>142328322
Pretty sure he says they are both forbidden within the walls of Las Noches, not sure where you're getting that from.
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>>142328406
Ichigo shrugged off a GRC with just his mask on, whereas Ulquiorra's Obscuras went right through Ichigo's chest. I'd argue that Grimmjow's claim is unfounded based on that evidence.
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>>142325453
I thought of this
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>>142328561
Then again Grimmjow did his Cero in base form & Ulquiorra wasn't.
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>>142329428
Sure, it's not exactly a foolproof argument. Would a GRC by Ulquiorra have been stronger than his Obscuras? Personally I think GRC has higher destructive potential and Obscuras is denser (Black Reiatsu, like Black GT).
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>>142327698
They could easily make a good, well paced anime with 3-4 chapters an episode. OVAs would be too rushed for this arc. There's a lot of shit that would have to be packed into too short a time.
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>>142329428
Ulquiorra is also at least twice as strong as Grimmjow's released form while in just base.
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>>142331034
Ulquiorra in his base form is probably equal with released Grimmjow. Since both were on even ground with masked Ichigo. Released Ulquiorra is obviously a lot stronger and Segunda Etapa might be the strongest Hollow, excluding Hichigo.
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>>142324147
>As same as he ever was

If you need to make up fake power-ups to continue a story maybe you should end the story?
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bach has no alternative now...........
he has to use THAT......................
>masaka...............
then ichigo will have no choice................
he will have to...........................
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>>142331311
Isnt it implied however that Ulquiorra was originally a Vasto Lorde? From what I remember what they described of Lordes is that they were twice as strong as Adjuchas, which Grimmjow belonged to
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>Great King Cero
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>>142331559
>fake power-ups

What did he mean by this?
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>>142331823
Most of the Espada were Vasto Lordes according to the Data Book. The flashback of Grimmjow was just when he was an Adjuchas and hadn't become a Vasto Lorde yet.

>構成メンバーは大虚の最上位である「バァストローデ」級がほとんど。
Is the text that refers to it.

There are definitely varying levels of power at that class though.
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>>142332204
memery
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>>142324147
Ichigo will go even further and further with this until Yhwach brings out a quincified OMG under his control who wrecks Ichigo again.
That will be when Rukia and stupid eyebrows will show up to take on OMG so Ichigo can focus on Yhwach.

Quincy should have stayed German instead of going culturaly enriched thanks to jewish control (shit I just realised something).
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>>142325085
They only flew during the fake karakura town arc because they were essentially spirits in the real world. I don't think they can fly around all willy nilly in the seireitei.
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>>142326663
This reminds me that Kenpachi's bankai was really boring.
It was some simple berserker/blood rage enhancement.
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>>142332236
while we're on the same topic, can it be argued that on a whole (released form + base form), Ulquiorra was more powerful than Starrk?
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>>142332525
It was also entirely incomplete, or irreversibly damaged, sort of hard to tell.

Then again I could hardly think of a more fitting Bankai for Kenpachi. It's the same amount of strength that caused Gremmy to tear himself to pieces.
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>>142332606
I'd say the two of them are just too inconsistently powered to determine which is stronger, and that's fine. Not all powerlevel debates need to be linear.
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>>142332704
i mean, if you look at starrk, he never really wanted to fight in the first place, but had been appointed the head of the espadas for a reason. The plot didnt do justice to his released form, he shouldve been defeated by shinsui's bankai rather than just shikai
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>>142332818
I think it's fair that he was defeated with teamwork and the element of surprise.
Besides, Shunsui's shikai is as deadly as a bankai anyway.
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>>142332606
Honestly no idea. Starrk took on 4 Captains pretty easily and was never totally serious. Base Ulquiorra/Starrk seemingly had similar destructive potential but one was a guy restraining himself so as not to harm Los Noches too much and the other was a guy who just didn't want to fight.

In releases I think Starrk has the potential to be stronger. Cero Metralleta is probably a fuck ton stronger than Oscuras.

With Segunda Etapa, I think Ulquiorra is the fastest/strongest arrancar, but on the other hand he got completely wiped by Hollow Ichigo and only did meaningful damage with a surprise attack.
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>>142332963
Non of the captains were serious aswell.

This is the same as with the Haribel fags saying she did not lose to shotam blatantly ignoring that her ass was saved by wondertard.
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>>142324147
This looks even more awful than in the last chapter. You reap what you saw I guess, Ichigo couldn't forever get away with being hybrid of everything without ending up as butt ugly mutant.

I still hope for nice looking bankai
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>>142333047
>Non of the captains were serious aswell.

I disagree. The Shinigami had everything to lose in that fight while the Espada only exist to fight. Sure Shunsui didn't take Starrk seriously at first, but only to gauge the other's strength.
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>>142333102
It's still incomplete, anon.
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>>142324147
GET HYPED MOTHER FUCKERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lsn2tT5yTc
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>>142325158
Less stuff to draw. kek.
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KUUUUUUU
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>>142333334
BOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>142333047
Rose and Love were definitely serious. Shunsui by nature fucks around and Ukitake was babysitting for half the fight.
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>>142333334
>>142333365
Nice, I was wondering if someone else would notice. It was a lot harder to see with just an online reader.
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>>142333469
What exactly is going on here?
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>>142333568
Parallels, Anon. Their fighting styles mirror one another.
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>>142333568
>What exactly is going on here?
Ichigo mindfuck
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>>142333568
Payback, using his own move against him.
Excellent work, Ichigo.
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>>142324147
>He mixed Getsuga with Grand rey cero
All right ichigo now we're talking
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Maybe I'm seeing things, but it looks like more of his hollow mask markings are appearing on Ichigo when he fired his GRC. Or rather, it LOOKS like a hollow mask is forming, but without the mask bit.

Plus, his eye changed too.
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>>142324147

anyone else get feels form just how he has accepted himself and grown?
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Pierrot must continue Bleach because of the music alone.
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>>142334248
The boy is turning into a man.
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>>142327585
my negra nubebro
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>>142333334
>>142333365
>>142333731
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Do you think this Ichigo is stronger than FGT?
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>>142332606
not even close. Starrk was la primera. yammy was 0 only because of how unmanageable he was in his ira state. around starrk things just died.
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>>142332525
we havent even seen it all yet. yachiru just assumed direct control
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>>142334416
His powers are still separate, once he goes Bankai and combine his powers again he'll exceed FGT, no doubt.
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>>142327476

MY. NIGGA.
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>>142324147
when did bleach become a fanfiction?
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>>142334416
>>142334646
whatever happens I hope his final form actually looks like FGT
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>>142334931
>(You)
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>>142334071
Others noticed this in the last thread, but yeah, I myself ain't a big fan of the current look, so I'd be pleased as punch if the mask actually came back.
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>>142334986
Post-Dangai or Mugetsu?
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>it's another double thread episode

*changes channel*
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So, another 30 chapters before the end still?
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>>142334931
somewhere in between Isshin being Shiba, Masaki being quincy, and Yhwach being zangetsu
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I dropped this series about a year ago a friend told me they are still fighting the Quincy, is that true?
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>>142335087
Last I checked the other thread was ship wars so...
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>>142334248
>feels
Kill yourself.
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>>142335159
>Isshin being Shiba
Foreshadowed to fucking death.
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>>142335217
>...

Lol
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>>142335186
Yes although most of them are dead.
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>kubo drawing orihime much more beautifully

How can Rukigay even compete
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There's so many glorious full spreads this chapter.
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>>142335297
Has Sado done anything cool yet?
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>>142335714
He still has yet to throw a punch on panel
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>>142333334
>>142333365
>>142333731
He does that in a lot of his fights. He sure knows how to get even with someone.
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>>142335087
>*action*
That's what images are for, jackass.
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>>142335785
I don't know why Kubo bothers setting up so many fights when we only get to see a few. It's happened so many times this arc.

>nehw ijnihS
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>>142335899
Kubo might have forgotten, hopefully not.
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>ichigo using his blood to make the Gran Rey Cero

It's the little things that make this neat.

Also why did I never notice that Ichigo's Hollow hole is right on THE HEART chakra?
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>>142332606
Indeed, Ulquiorra is the strongest espada in his second release, followed by the regular order.
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Just look at Orihimes breasts this chapter. How can rukia even have any sense of competition?
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>>142335714
>Sado
>Doing anything worth noting
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>>142335785
>>142335677
I will return once Sado does something.
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>>142335409
>>142336209
Kubo love for Orihime always amazes me
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Post yfw.
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>>142336492
Does that count as a moon?
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>>142336786
Yep. He mixed the Cero with the Getsuga.
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>>142336492
Yhwach is still smiling
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>>142336492
reminder that he still has the quincy powers unused, the shikai and the bankai
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>>142336408
Truly endgame.
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>>142336492
>white cero/getsuga
>that shape

I-Is it happening?
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Wait, all this time Orihime was able to withstand Ichigo's reiatsu? It's only now that she has had to put up a shield?

How strong is Orihime?
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>>142336492

>this isn't even final battle

I don't even understand what Kubo's thinking anymore.

And I never did
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>>142336980
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>>142337131
It's weird because Orihime was able to withstand his reiatsu when not only was it visible, but the Shinigami fighting Gerard could also feel it.
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>>142336911
He's using shikai right now.
Once ichigo learned of Zanpakto's name since the very beginning its never not been in shikai ever again.
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>>142337930
Now I can't remember if Rukia, Renji and Byakuya's Zanpaktou are constantly in their shikai form
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>>142338052
Renji's shikai is the toothed thing, he has a generic katana that we barely ever see anymore.

Rukia's shikai is the white one with the spoked round crossguard and the ribbon. her sealed sword is the katana with the rectangular guard with little damashi flames.

Byakuya's shikai is petals and no blade, his sealed is katana blade, and the handle and guard of both are identicle.
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>>142337164

There's still 'normal max' of bankai, more mask and quincy (maybe he will get a conceptual power at last?) and then we have to start going transcendent and FGT again. A good 3+ years for that alone. Plus all the backstabbing and vying to get X/Y/Z to become SK.
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The story can go two ways now. Either Yhwach dies and the power passes on to the next big bad.
Or Yhwach somehow regens and the fight continues, with him and Ichigo constantly one-upping each other in transformations and destruction until everything is in ruins and one of them dies. Ichigo obliterated the palace by just powering up in this makeshift melded form. They'll be tearing the royal realm and SS apart if this goes on for much longer.
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>>142337131

Varies so hard.

Early on she's over come by it during major fights, even until ulq. Now she's either defending against it because he's about to reach peak non-transcendent or going that high will cause things to break. She hasn't been incapacitated in a while even though she's been near all this shit that used to make her weak at the knees.

Does this mean there's a 'way' for humans to level up how much reiatsu they have to not be knocked out, or is it just her own 'willpower' since her abilities seem to work based on her mental state. She should if determined to, just unexist most opponents.
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>>142338429
I remember during the invasion of Hueco Mundo someone stated that Orihime has high reiatsu. It's just interesting that her level is high enough to withstand Ichigo.
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>>142324147
This going to end badly, it's going far too smoothly
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>>142338693
Notice how Yhwach smiles while Ichigo cuts into him, he's enjoying this.
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>>142338693
Yhwach hasn't activated the Almighty yet. It's going to get interesting.

I'm more curious about what will happen to Orihime. I have no idea what her role is going to be moving forward in the fight.
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>>142334071
It's just blood. At any rate, the melded form will look less fucked up when he grows a horn on the other side too.

And the fucker is still in shikai. Actually I doubt he can even use his bankai without first attaining a certain degree of mastery over how to balance his powers.
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Every week until Bleach ends.
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>>142339732
>he posted it again
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>>142338410
It's not going to be that straightforward. We're in the calm before the storm. Basically the same as when Ichigo popped out of the portal to the real world and started swinging at Aizen in FKT.

Isshin is on his way, Aizen still has a role to play, I severely doubt Urahara is totally out of the picture, and obviously Yhwach is being the same cryptic fuck as he's been since his appearance.
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>>142333779
Now that I think about it, his fighting style is basically 60% what fake zangetsu taught him, and 20% stuff he stole from real zangetsu, plus a 20% he learned from actual fights or something, right? Part of it might be from having learned the ropes literally from a younger version of YHWH.
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Why does Ichigo have a horn?
When did he become a quincy on top of being a fullbring/hollow/shinigami/etc?

who has the picture of the crowd reacting to chapters so I can get caught up?
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>>142324672

No he can't, as the first Auchwalen didn't effect him.
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>>142339732
This holds true now, so much for shielding Ichigo, now she's just shielding herself in a corner.
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>>142336823
And so is Ichigo. I'm not sure what's more creepy.
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>>142340215
>Why does Ichigo have a horn?

He managed to manifest some of his Hollow power imbued in his Zangetsu.

>When did he become a quincy on top of being a fullbring/hollow/shinigami/etc?

Always and never.
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>>142340261
Ah, good point. Perhaps he's misleading Ichigo into thinking he can?
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>>142334986
This form already looks a bit like that, I mean, if you notice the sleeve on his right arm is all torn like it was while against Aizen. Minus the chain, obviously, since that only appears in bankai.
I wonder if one of the properties of Ichigo's zanpakuto is that his bankai cannot be stolen.
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>>142338736
>cut
He wasn't laughing, he was gritting his teeth. Yhwach was genuinely fearful when Ichigo slashed at him, it reminded him of his dream no doubt. He didn't expect the GRC either. The fight is far from won, but Ichigo has dealt him a critical injury. It may not even be Yhwach that will be the last boss, in which case he may die now. Quincies do have some form of regenerative ability, but it is minor and nowhere near Ichigo's regen. Not even the SK managed to regenerate from the injuries he suffered. Yhwach will have to act quickly. Stealing Orihime's power, or suddenly revealing that she was a quincy all along and have her heal him might work.
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>>142336980
His shikai Getsuga has always been white.

I wonder if next is GRAN REY CERO OBSCURAS
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>>142338410
Or Yhwach defeats Ichigo, Isshin comes to the rescue and stalls Yhwach so that Ichigo can escape alongside his friends and whomever Kubo deems important enough, through the sun gate Ryuken used or Yukio's box.

Though I think a combination of this and number one is the most likely. Except that everything is as Yhwach wanted. Guess Squad Zero, Urahara or even the whole Gotei might be the enemy of the second half then.
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>>142340215
That's his Hollow horn from his Hollow form during/after the fight with Ulquiorra. He grew the horn after channeling his Hollow powers.

His mom was a Quincy and we found this out near the beginning of the arc. So Ichigo's had Quincy powers since the beginning of the series. Old Man Zangetsu is literally Yhwach and the avatar of Ichigo's Quincy powers.

And everybody got bored of the reaction image and it was getting too forced over time instead of capturing the feeling of the threads reacting to each chapter. So it stopped being updated at some point.
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>>142340276
What? She's been useful in this fight. What are you expecting her to do?
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>>142340411
Isshin is way out of his league and he has two other children to think of. Ichigo is the only one who can stop Yhwach.
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>>142340261
But Auschwalen doesn't target all quincies indiscriminately, it's the king who determines who has their power consumed and who gets new ones. And he still needed Ichigo to kill the Soul King for him, at that point. It's the same thing that killed for example Ichigo's mother, but didn't affect say, Bazz-B or any of the other quincies struck by the one when he needed to powerup the fucks fighting the royal guards.
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>>142336492
What would be the name of this Cero?
Cero Creciente Pálido? (Pale Crescent Cero; also, "creciente" means "increasing" in English. The Spenish is half-intentional.)
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>>142340373
>thinking Ichigo has the upper hand whatsoever

Do you even Kubo?
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>>142340572
There is no upper hand here. They're about evenly matched now. Ichigo with his speed and reiatsu blasts. Yhwach with his brute strength and power. Ichigo should've used arterie for the initial attack against Yhwach, then he may have dealt more damage.
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>>142340507
Never said he will win. He will just stall Yhwach long enough for Ichigo to escape. Isshin does know how to use FGT afterall. This should give them enough time. But yeah, unless someone saves Isshin, he is probably going to die then. Yuzu and Karin also have Kukaku, who can act as their aunt.

Also what do you think is Isshin going to do in Wharwelt? He and Ryuken are both exiled from their societies. It's obvious that they are only there to save their sons and possibly avenge their wives.
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>>142340373
>Stealing Orihime's power, or suddenly revealing that she was a quincy all along and have her heal him might work.
That'd be a way to heal his wounds. It would then make sense why she came to fight.
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>>142340674
Neither Yhwach not Ichigo is at their full power right now. Yhwach has The Almighty as well as a number of other abilities at his disposal. Ichigo has a Bankai. There is no way Ichigo can win without plot hax.
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>>142340698
Isshin is not exiled, he went missing 24 years ago. Ryuken himself isn't exiled either, it's Souken that was banished from Silbern. Funny that, the Ishidas may be quincies from Yhwach's shadow realm. Which means that Souken's unnamed sister, Ichigo's grandmother was one too. Motherfucker, the Ishidas aren't japs at all.
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>>142340813
Ichigo is plenty powerful already and this is just his first melded form. You're gonna get an overdesigned mess with wings, a halo, black claws, full body armor, facial tattoos and horns before this is done.
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>>142324147

I feel bad for Aizen at this point. He's not seeing Ichigo in the form that he hoped he achieved. He's just sitting alone in a chair.
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>>142340807
>Yhwach: Orihime Inoue, you came to this fight to aid me. It was my will that lead you here.
Orihime would be the biggest traitor in all of Bleach if she did. She might as well kill herself after that.
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>>142340821
I meant both are from exiled families. The Shiba family and the Ishida family were exiled from Soul Society and the Wandenreich respectively.

Well Ichigo is also not japanese. Masaki and the Ishidas are probably of european descendant. Soken Ishida may not even be his true name. Isshin is a noble and born in Soul Society, which means he has no no real life ethnicy. Only reason Soul Society is japanese to begin with is because the founding fathers and Ichibee believed in japanese master race.
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>>142340910
Ichigo has yet to fully master his powers. He's probably going to train to achieve something, where he can bring both sides out at will. And also a version where the balance skips towards Quincy instead of Hollow.
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Ishida is a Quincy, so he has hella Quincy powers.
Rukia and Renji are shinigami, and so they have hella shinigami powers.
Orihime has healing powers and serves as the healer of the group.

What does Sado even bring to the table?
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>>142340902
Here's your (You)
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>>142333334
>>142333365

Hand thrusts are something a villian would do.
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>>142341065
>What does Sado even bring to the table?

Muscles and Friendship, also Hollow powers
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>>142340963
That's why it would be great. Maybe she'll resist him like she failed to do against Facebook.
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>>142340993
Shibas weren't exiled, they were demoted and this wasn't because of Isshin. Most likely it was because of Kuukaku.
But the Ishidas and Kurosakis do have japanese ethnic roots as well. Whoever Souken and his sister married, were Japanese after all.
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>>142341065
Fullbringer with poisonous to Quincies hollow powers.
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>>142338182
If Ichigo does end up getting a power outside of raw strength then I'm pretty sure it's going to be along the lines of erasing/void. So probably something like erasing things from existence that he cuts or whatever.

I know people have said that FGT Ichigo could cut space, which would fit with the theme and maybe help explain why Ichigo could suddenly cut things he was incapable of prior with power boosts without it just being asspulls by Kubo (but it probably was)

And thinking it out the Shiba clan seemingly has elemental alignments and the only 2 not taken in the traditional 5 elements that we've seen has been Wind/Void. And the kanji for void, 空, can also be translated as sky or heaven and we know Getsuga Tenshou roughly translates to Heaven Piercing Moon Fang or whatever. And there's other comparisons as well.

But that's just a lot of autism and pointless speculation as it will just be whatever the fuck Kubo decides to toss in to take down a literal omniscient/omnipotent god at this point.
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>>142341061
Tipping to much towards either side is bad. Tip too much towards the hollow side and he turns into a raving mad hollow. Turn too much towards the quincy side and you might as well hand Yhwach the victory. Ichigo's best chances of winning are by keeping his powers in balance and continue melding them together. Eventually he will become something new entirely.
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>>142340498
Stand in a corner and watch Ichigo fight, and it came true.
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>>142334359
>not muh nube negro
Come on anon!
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>>142341172
They had to live in the Rukongai outside the Seretei, which fits my definition of exiled. Sui-feng actually alluded that the Shiba family fell because of a major crime. It's unlikely that Isshin's disappearance was the reason, since Yoruichi also just dissapeared and the Shihoin family is fine. And unlike Yoruichi, Isshin was just part of the head.

Soken's wife and Ryuken's mother might have escaped alongside him from the Wandenreich. It's at least a possibility, but she looked more japanese than Ryuken because of her hair colour. Makes one wonder how Soken looked when he was young.

Ichigo and Uryuu are still more european than japanese, since every Quincy still has european rootes.
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>>142341172
It's kinda weird how Kuukaku seems to live out in the boons from apparently a long time, considering that Yoruichi knew the place from way back and that zone was Urahara's base of operations.

But then, you had one of them being a captain (and apparently, he was already a captain 100 years ago, since he wasn't shown intentionally in Turn Back The Pendulum, and we know that people with bankai are pretty rare and highly regarded even among the members of the noble families), and another one that was lieutenant.

Speaking of which, it was never really explained why Byakuya held Kaien in high contempt, was it? Or who was it the first person he used his senkei on. In the beginning it seemed almost like he was the one to kill Kaien, but we know how that went. Then again Kubo maybe just changed his mind.
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>>142341476
*Isshin was just the head of a side branch
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>>142341476
I'm pretty sure that Yoruichi's disappearance was a big deal, especially since she wasn't exactly super sneaky about it.
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>>142341476
Souken most likely had white hair like his son and it's heavily implied that he came from Silbern himself. Ishida Souken is probably not even his birth name. I can imagine that going against the king's wishes and trying to be buddies with the shinigami didn't make him the most popular man around. We'll see in the future when Ryuken inevitably butts heads with Haschwalth.
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>>142341504
It's probably Kuukaku's fault that Urahara and Aizen came to know about the king, I remember one of the interviews implied that she was a Royal Guard in the past. In which case most of the conflicts in Bleach can be blamed on her.
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>>142341504
We found out about the only person Kenpachi ever admired, so we might find out about Byakuya's person.

Though the only important time frame from recent history is when Ginjou rebelled, which was some time after EBTR, if Tsukishima's age is any indication. Ginjou's past is supposed to be very relevant and seems to be complex. It's also possible that he wasn't the only who rebelled, but the only one, who managed to escape with his life.

>>142341563
Not enough for the family to fall.
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>>142341504
It was probably Isshin who he used Bankai on first.
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>>142341364
Okay, but she's done a lot more than that. Are you one of those people who set extremely high expectations?
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>>142341701
Urahara and Aizen met the Soul King before TBTP and before Kukaku was born or an adult. Urahara was there when he was young, because his replica of Tenjiro's spring existed when he and Yoruichi were still young. And they probably got the idea of creating the Hogyoku from meeting the Soul King.
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>>142336980
OH SHIT
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>>142341772
>Isshin and Ryuken are buddies
>Isshin and Byakuya were buddies
>Isshin and Hitsugaya were buddies
How does Isshin keep befriending the frigid assholes?
>>142341830
Kukaku is old, anon. She's Isshin's niece, but she can still be older than him.
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>>142341827
>Done a lot more

Did you really think Ichigo need fucking shielding since the beginning? Did you really think that? Are you that deluded that this holy trinity of bleach can't even take a single hit from Yhwach?

Face it anon, Kubo tried to make her relevant, but she can't keep up when Ichigo powers up.

He havn't even shikai/bankai yet.
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>>142341950
This, and the only way to make her relevant again is for some asspull to happen, probably to name her captain planet and flies off to space.
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>>142336492
MY
SON
OF
DARKNESS
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Re-reading at the moment and find some interesting things.

I thought quincy don't have reaitsu, or did Kubo forgot?
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>>142341950
There's a reason that she was brought to the fight, anon. If there wasn't, she would have been told to fuck off and fight statues with Chad.
>>142342020
>asspull
We don't know what her powers are.
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>>142340910
What if Aizen is Yhwach?
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>>142342229
Yeah, her faith gives her power ups.

What would you call that in a shonen series, anon?
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>>142342204
Yhwach isn't your typical Quincy
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>>142342204
Quincy are humans so its understandable that their Reiatsu isn't as strong as a Shinigami's. That's why they use Blut to increase their attack and defense. What separates them from Shinigami that instead of fighting with their own Reiatsu, they fight with the Reishi in their environment.
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>>142342262

Aizens Bankai is switching bodies and stealing memories.
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>>142342284
No, her will power just makes her powers stronger. She still needs to train vigorously in order to create new powers. We still don't know what her five/six sided shields do.
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>>142324147
>Ichigo using Gran Rey Cero at will
I was not prepared for this
Also, I finished reading this chapter before i could even notice, seriously, fucking Kubo.
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I feel Kubo is a totally underrated mangaka now. Perhaps because, in my opinion, his shonen "themes" or "events" are too deep for the typical Japanese teenagers. Most people that I know that find the symbolisms, themes ect. are like young adults (18-25).

Sucks Kubo isn't appreciated much.
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>>142342204
Quincy didn't have reiatsu only in Vollstandig.
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>>142336980
Getsuga literally means "moon fang", so this isn't anything new.
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>>142343046
>caring about the opinions of Japanese teenagers

Why?
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>>142343144
I don't care, just stating an opinion that Kubo isn't really appreciated. I just see a lot of people complain about him. Just an observation I've had.
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>>142325453
not really a winged form but this comes to mind
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>>142343046
He is. It'll get better when the anime comes back.
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>>142343308
>Bleach's anime
>Coming back
Kek, do you want Haruhi S3 too? ;_;
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could someone explain whats going on in the top panel? i can see ichigos horn and the cero forming, but i cant really make out his body under it. what position is he standing in? and is that blood coming from his face on the bottom panel?
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>>142343603
Ichigo fell back and raised his sword to form the Getsuga. Then touched it to his horn to start forming a Gran Rey Cero/Getsuga fusion. And yeah that's blood. You need blood to make a Gran Rey Cero.
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>>142343603
Yhwach did hit him and drew blood.
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>>142343603
Ichigo is standing up (in the air which is why the perspective is so whack), with his face lifted up. And yeah, that's blood, you need to combine blood with your reiatsu to make a Gran Rey Cero. That's what makes it different from regular Ceros, or even Cero Oscuras
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>>142343603
His body is cocked to the left of his horn and head. We do not know what part of his body Ywach cut, probably his cheek or shoulder.
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You know, this chapter really has put in perspective just how much of a stomp Hollow Ichigo vs Ulqu was. The fact that he can do things like Gran Rey Cero but was simply making use of normal Ceros is some mad humiliation
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Why do I get the feeling that Ywhach isn't the final boss?
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I'm a neutralfag on shipping war, but I'm noticing Kubo's drawing Orihime looking really stunning. I didn't think of her beautiful until the last chapter, just cute and sexy.
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>>142343847
Because Aizen exists?
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i noticed his form is basically the same as this page back from the arrancar arc, even the two black lines. only difference is this one is a mask with teeth and hair
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>>142343848
The last few chapters she has looked really, really good. I hope Kubo doesn't have anything sinister planned for her.
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>>142337131
Side characters always level up offscreen

Just look at Chad
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>>142338522
During Hueco at one point Ichigo burned himself on one of her shields, and wondered when she got that strong.

She's weird

Although Zaraki later broke that shield
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How the fuck is this manga still going? I stopped reading after ichigo exited kings palace.
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>>142344378
It wasn't really offscreen, we did have some mention of her training in Hueco Mundo. It'll be interesting to see if it pays off.
>>142344406
Maybe we'll get an explanation where her powers come from. Maybe.
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>>142340373
>tfw her faeries reveal themselves to be survivors of the last quincy war
Make it happen, Kubo.
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>>142336492
>not posting Ichigo's handsome mug
Inoue's face when.
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>>142344563
kek
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>>142327627
kill yourself with that shitty CG studio
>>142327825
yuki is sawashiro 2.0
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>>142344761
>end game confirmed

Keep reaching, anon, you'll get there some day
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>>142324147

What the fuck is this abomination
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>>142344761

Not used to Handsome Ichigo
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>>142345233
>responding to obvious reverse troll
Disgusting.
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>>142345233
>>142345610
Denial is reverse trolling anons.
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>>142344761
The Shiba genes are strong in Ichigo. He looks a lot like his father here.
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>>142331823
>>142331311
>>142331034
Ulquiorra's second release is straight up the most powerful arrancar. You (the reader) is supposed to know this by the phrase "not even Aizen knows about this".

This is consistent with the sheer amount of power demonstrated in that fight, from the reiajtsu rain, to the spears of FUCK YOU, etc.

It also stands to reason that cero, whether oscuras or GRC would increase or decrease in strength based on whoever uses it. It propably doesn't matter that much, as any increased power for Cero Oscuras can be explained by Ulquiorra being more powerful than Grimmjow in all 3 of his forms, his base is more powerful than Grimmjow's base, etc.
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>>142345745
Anon, I'm one of the biggest Orihimefags on /a/. It's obvious that you're using her solely to upset people here.
You shouldn't do that, she should be used to make people happy.
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>>142341172
>>142341172

We don't even know when they were demoted/exiled, or for what.

50? years ago at least the eldest brother was still in 13 divisions. Isshin is MIA from those flashbacks. So is he already gone? If so how long prior?

My thoughts are that he and urahara were up to something, Isshin took the brunt of the status loss/fault. This took the entire family down (but where are the parents? It was just 3 siblings left during Rukia killing Kaiba). What it was couldn't have been too major or they'd have tried to exterminate the whole family relentlessly.

So was it falling in love with masaki 15~ years ago? Fraternizing with a human (interaction doesn't seem explicitly disallowed, but prolonged living with humans is, and why?). SS rules just seem weird and nonsensical to advance the plot at times.
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>>142346109
speakin of this, where did gin fit in on the powerlevel charts? he was able to handle ichigo quite easily while aizen was beating up the trio. i believe gin also thought he was the only one able to kill aizen at one point? and indeed aizen did seem to fear for his life for a moment after being struck his gin's bankai, didnt he? or am i remembering that part wrong?
i thought i remember aizen going on about needing fear of death to further evolve or some shit like that
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>>142346518

I'd alter it to say that there's still information and timing on the yoruichi-uarahara-isshin-kukaku relationship to reveal. Potentially 2 royal families heads just utterly defecting with information and assets unique to them. With urahara and co. doing research into the world foundations for unknown time frame. These fuckers could be from 100 to 1000 years old.
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>>142346657
Gin's Zanpakutou was very broken in what it could do, especially what he used to explode Aizen's chest with.

I don't think his base powerlevel was any higher than high tier captains though.
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>>142341092
Ichigo final villain
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>>142346469
She makes my dick happy.
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>>142341935

Maybe Isshin is mad scientist urahara tier but hides it better.

How'd this fucker get a medical license since he doesn't exist? Is he just a quack GP or something more in the genetics direction?

It's why I've hated not having that talk after Aizen. Isshin holds a gigantic wealth of end game lore and why certain things are the way they are and it's dangled in front of us, all to wait 5+ years.
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>>142342356

Are they even human considering some of them were like 400 years old.
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>>142347078
Urahara probably doctored his records. The guy created the Hougyoku, hacking into the Japanese government should be easy as shit to someone like him.
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>>142347012
That's all she's good for.
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>>142347012
And that's fine. She's attractive, there's no denying that. Just don't use her to make people upset.
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Yhwach is pronounced (using English orthography) "Yuhavakh", right?
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>>142346657
He was just Captain tier with a strong Zanpakuto. Ichigo was mentally not in it to fight at that point and Bankai Ichigo fell down on the power scale over the course of the Arrancar arc.
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Why is she missing so many sides of her hairpiece? How does it even work?
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>>142348200
Each of the Shun Shun Rikka forms two petals of the total 12. She's using the 3-God shield so six total petals are used, two on the left (her right) and four on the right (her left).
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>>142348585
Oh, that makes sense. Is she able to use more faeries to make a different shield?
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>>142348812
Originally, 3 made the defense shield, 2 different ones made the healing shield, and the last made the offensive slicing shield. She later combined the attacking and defensive shields to make a shield that also hurts anyone who approaches.
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>>142343292
wow was kubo planning this the whole time?
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>>142331311
>>142346109
And yet in a fight against say Starrk, Ulquiorra would fucking lose.

His spear can blow shit up but only if you stand really still and pretty much let him hit you.
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>>142348935
So, would it be safe to assume that if she used four/five/six faeries to make a shield it would be even stronger?
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>>142349210
thing is we really didnt get to see ulqiorra fight in his second form. he played aroudn with ichigo until killing them, then got his ass cut in half immediately after ichigo transformed. he mightve been proficient with his lance as a melee weapon for all we know.
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>>142332236
>most
that just means, among the espada, there are 5 vasto lordes minimum
yammy, Starrk, Harribel, Barrigan, and Ulquiorra.
This makes sense, since Nnoitra and Neliel weren't vastolorde.
That would leave Nnoitra, Grimmjow, Szayel, and Zommari as Adjuucas (of which three have flash backs indicating they were adjuucas).
And of course Arroniero as gillian.

Not that it matters much. The fact that after the hou gyoku came into play, several became much stronger suggests that almost all of the espada are vasto-lorde level currently, even if they didn't start that way.
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>>142348935
>She later combined the attacking and defensive shields to make a shield that also hurts anyone who approaches.
when was this?
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>>142349340
No the text from the databook actually says:

>[The espada] are comprised almost entirely of the highest level of Menos Grande, the Vasto Lorde level.

Most while not inaccurate, doesn't properly convey the point.
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>>142349333
>he mightve been proficient with his lance as a melee weapon for all we know.
>energy lance that explodes on impact
>melee weapon
that would not be advised.
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>>142333334
A better thing to notice is...where did his second blade go when he was grabbing that guy? Did he just like...drop old man zangetsu (little blade) somewhere?
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>>142349454
that's the thing
is it saying they are currently equal in power to vasto lordes, or is it saying they ARE vasto lordes?
Or do all the differences go away when you become an arrancar and it's just your power that determines if you are "gillian, adjuuca, or vasto lorde"
i feel like it's the latter. That would explain Aizen's "after all, they are only gillians" statement.
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>>142349479
he used it to slash off ichigos horns and it did not explode. it exploded when ichigo crushed it in his hand. anyway im not saying ulquiorra is for sure stronger, i just think we'll never know cause theres too many unknowns. its the same with stark, we never really see him give it his all in a fight since he really didnt want to fight shunsui
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>>142349216
Not necessarily. Adding the 1 faerie offensive shield to the defensive shield makes sense, but adding the healing shield wouldn't really make the defensive shield better.
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>>142349447
Fullbringer arc. Ginjo tried to get Ichigo while he was being healed and touching the shield hurt him.
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>>142349447
During this fight, she repelled Ginjo's attack back at him.
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>>142349511
He sheathed it right when he went in front of Inoue's shield
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>>142349611
What would happen if she used all her faeries? I would imagine that would be a strong shield.
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>>142324147
Dropped bleach after the fullbringers arc, and this shit looks so ridiculous.
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>>142349735
Pick it back up. It's a good read.
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>>142349447
Fullbring arc.

Shiten Kosshun. It reflects attacks.
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>>142349928
Gosh Inoue a best.
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>>142349928
how many fairies does it use?
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>>142349972
4
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>>142349928
I love her face in the bottom panel. She's at her best when she protects the people she loves.
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>>142324147
Holy shit a talking horn
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>>142349993
Inoue can be quite the badass when the opponent isn't God.
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>>142350022
what, your horn doesnt say yo?
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>>142350037
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>>142350037
>dat post-time skip Orihime
based kubo
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>>142350085
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>>142350085
>you're wrong
She's perfect.
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>>142349611
What if the healing fairies serve to heal the shield if some powerful attack tries to get through?
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>>142349928
Then they job for the rest of the arc. Classic Kubo.
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>>142350199
Kubo can't be rushed. Bad things happens when he is.
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>>142350115
>That face in the first panel saying "Oh, I WAS wrong."
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>>142349533
The comment is in reference to what the Espada were prior to becoming Arrancar. A large majority of them were Vasto Lordes. It's nothing about their power levels.
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>>142350197
She also has another new tech that she never got to use in that arc. Probably Koten Kesshun, if it goes by the naming conventions of her technique.

Koten implies it that it's another Tsubaki (attack) tech, one that's not Koten Zaishun.
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>>142350533
Actually Koten means solitary so it just means she's only using one petal.
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>>142336492
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>>142349533
Wasn't that statement related to the generic gillians that didn't even have their mask broken? Anyway, the level of an Hollow can change over time, and the only indication of his power level is his shape: those who have human shapes are Vasto Lord. Since resurreccion brings them to their true bodies, we could infer that the ones who have an humanoid resurreccion have evolved to Vasto Lorde, which would mean at least 1 to 6. There's a clear power gap after 6 (well, after 4 too, although I'd infer Ulquiorra's real strength would actually make him 1-2), and Yammy actually looks like more or an adjuca.
Even if it was only the first 6, it would be 6-3-1. If we count Yammy, that pushes to 7-2-1.

This is all speculation, mind you.
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>>142350640
Not him, but the only fairy that goes out alone is Tsubaki, the implication is there as she's never used a Koten tech that wasn't Tsubaki.
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>>142351062
Since Tsubaki is involved in the reflecting shield he doesn't really go only alone, so maybe all of them have a Koten tech?
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>>142341830
Actually no. Aizen had clearly never heard of the RG before Shunsui let it spill.
Aizen gained knowledge about the king, Yhwach, the quincies and hollowfication during the timeskip in TBTP.
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>>142339544
blood doesn't form such an intricate pattern, remember that scene when Ichigo was trapped in Kirge's Jail? Yeah...
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Where did all the recent orihimeshippers come from? It wasn't like this a couple years ago.
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>>142351588
It's a few things. First, you have to keep in mind that some of the people posting Orihime are doing it to elicit a response from people who hate her / ship Ichigo and Rukia.
Secondly, she has received a lot more panel time during this last arc. Whether it was the outfit scene with Urahara or this final fight, she's becoming more and more relevant.
Lastly, her popularity has increased in the west. While Rukia is still the most popular, Orihime has slowly caught up. I remember trying to have a discussion here about Orihime around five years ago and I was constantly told to either fuck off, stop trolling, or go back to FLOL. It's funny how times can change things.
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Cero. Arrow. Cerrow. C'Arrow.
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>>142352179
Ichigo has cero tolerance for juha's bullshit
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>>142352249
Teehee
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>>142352249
>>>/reddit/
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>>142351805
>>142352193
Thanks for the explanation.
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>>142324147
Sage
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>>142324147
will he be proud of him when he sees him?
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>>142349044
Yes.
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>>142334392
Translation anyone? I can't do nip.
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>>142351805
I am re-reading the manga and I'm liking what Kubo has done with her so far. It's just a slow burn arc constrained by Ichigo needing to show off.
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>>142344064
In the last page it looks like other stripes are forming, very close to his mouth as he smiles.
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>>142351805
Fourthly, some people don't actually care for ships and are just rusers.
Anyway, I don't think she was ever unpopular in general. Also this made me realize that this arc has been going on for 4 years now.
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>>142353262
...That look a lot like teeth. Holy shit.
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>>142352801
Probably, he would find him unforgivable.
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>>142352801
If he's anything like the good old Aizen I remember, he'll be curious, rather than proud.
I want to see his evil, handsome smile again. ;_;
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>>142352457
No problem. I'm glad you're actually looking for an explanation instead of jumping to conclusions.
>>142353135
I agree, she's finally living up to her potential and actually doing something. Hopefully she's able to survive the final fight and live a happy life.
>>142353273
>Anyway, I don't think she was ever unpopular in general.
I disagree. When the anime was in full swing, almost any mention of her would get you lambasted with personal insults. She really was hated, people even went so far as to make multiple doujins where she would be brutally killed.
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>>142343847
Because the whole problem with the Soul King's replacement could easily pitch Ichigo against the Shinigami. And because Yhwach may want to die to further his plans.
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>>142353503
I think that was just the "Kurosaki-kun Kurosaki-kun Kurosaki-kun" meme. Plus backlash on the emo landwhales shipping her with Ulquiorra to death everywhere on the internet.
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>>142353676
No doubt. I mean, not all the hate for Orihime was unjustified. You can still find on Youtube videos of Orihime saying Kurosaki-kun over and over.

The problem started when Rukiafriends started to lose faith in their ship. It all went downhill from there.
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>>142353676
The anime ending was one of the reasons that Orihime has begun to slowly increase in popularity. I started off with the manga and I hated the fuck out of her. It was only when I decided to catch up a year or two ago that I actually started to like Orihime.
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>>142333394
Vaizard are fodder tier.
How could those guys even be captains to begin with, their bankais are shit.
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>>142341065
Chad is going to have one final fight. It won't be against statues, it'll be against the person controlling the statues.
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Will Kubo be the final boss?
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>>142333731
Ichigo's mindfuck is the best. Then again, he learned by example from all the trollmasters out there except Kurotsuchi (incidentally, he gave Kurotsuchi a pretty sick burn when he left Hueco Mundo).
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Hey, what happened to Kubo's twitter? Did he shut it down or something? Can't seem to find it.
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>>142350102
>>142350102
THE HEART (attack)
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Why does Orihime look so bad here >>142349928 and so great here >>142344761

Not that either is even close to how good she looked back in the beginning of the story.
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>>142336980
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>>142354963
Ok I laughed.
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>>142346741
>Ichigo final villain
Well Yhwach was going on about Ichigo's body being a miracle that doesn't belong to him. So Yhwach could've set it up that when he gets mortally wounded his soul transfers to the strongest container around.
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>>142353859
To be honest, I think that Orihime is a character that would be much more appreciated if she was in a completely different kind of manga. I really hope Kubo eventually goes the To Love Ru way and writes a romantic comedy after his action series is finished.
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>>142355141
I mean look at her go.
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>>142353676
>Plus backlash on the emo landwhales shipping her with Ulquiorra to death everywhere on the internet.

Those same landwhales are Ichirukifags. That ship, and Ishida x Orihime, is just getting her "out the way."
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>>142354963
What exactly was Moon theory again? I forgot and it's not on Lon's website as far as I can tell.
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>>142353262
>other stripes

that's his blood splattered on his face as he forms a cero getsuga tenshou but it was done subtly.
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>>142355050
could be
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>>142355380
Kubo's the king of subtle hinting.
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>>142355380
Personally, I think that's just some of Ywach's black gooey thing flying around, or some reiatsu.
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>>142355380
screencap this: those are his mask's teeth
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Screen cap this:

This fight will last a few more chapters, with the death of ywatch and ichigo achieving soul King status. With all Quincy taken care of (besides worthless ishida and his father)

Aizen will casually just stand up from the chair, "yes ichigo, you've finally achieved what I wanted for you. Now hand it over.". Then ichigo gives Aizen soul King power. ALL ACCORDING TO KEIKAKKUUUU
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How fucked would this all be as a dream/hallucination/whatever for ichigo because he actually lost to Aizen?
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>>142335159
Status: speedwatcher
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>>142356067
No lad, Don Kanoji's series finale.
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>>142335257
Like the other two things weren't. I mean at least Masaki was since forever, Yhwach thing was clear since he first appeared. It's a bit idiotic that the Royal Guard actually had to spell it out for Ichigo.
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>>142355276
Whenever the moon is shown, Aizen's keikaku is happening.
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>>142358180
Stop bumping your shit thread let it die faggot. Or better off, go to /v/
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>>142342204
Quincy still have Reiryoku, they form their bows from it but you reishi as ammunition. Everyone has reiryoku to some degree, having more than normal is what allows people to see spirits. Emitting your reiryoku is called reiatsu
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>>142353262
>>142355380
>>142355485
I thought it was fairly obvious.
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Tired of this occurrence in anime

>huurdurr muh speshal hybrid main character
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>>142360490
it's the easiest thing to do characterization-wise for Kubo, in order to get people amped up. There's not much once you peel back the powers.
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I don't think Ywach is even serious right now. It's clear he was trying to goad ichigo into a fight. He may even just be killing his boredom kenpachi style.

Old Monk knows everything about ichigo's new forms since he trained him shortly after he gained those abilities and yet he seemed fairly confident that he would not be able to stand up to Ywach.

We also saw how Old Monk literally stripped Ywach of all his power and abilities and all that other shit and he just laughed it off like it was nothing. I don't think brute force is going to get ichigo anywhere.

My guess is that it's going to come down to a fight between Aizen and Ywach.

Ywachs most potent ability is that he can perceive anything, even the future.

Aizens most potent ability is that he can manipulate everything you perceive. With his bankai (assuming he still has one) He may be able to nullify The Almighty entirely.

Also I'm willing to bet it's aizen who takes down Gerard at this point. Gerard probably crushes the chair and thats where shit will hit the fan.
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>>142328561

Or Kubo just does shit without knowing what he doing and contradicts himself constantly
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>>142361143
Pretty at this point most people are in it for kubo's trolling
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>>142354955
I really disliked how she was drawn during the beginning of the Fullbring arc. It really has to do with how Kubo feels like drawing her.
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>>142355485
>>142355409

I don't really think it's subtle. Ever since ichigo's first fight in karakura with Grimjow, it became clear that whenever Ichigo used one of his hollows abilities (at the time, black getsuga) his physical features became a little more similar to his hollows. You could see the black creeping into his eye with every black getsuga so it's not unreasonable that the most powerful, espada only cero would make parts of the mask manifest.
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>>142354774
It has to due with a lot of things. Mainly, he ddin't want to deal with the daily harassment from a certain group of fans.
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>>142361381
That's too bad. It was nice reading his shitty tweets once in a while.
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>>142361381
Are those the IchiRuki or the IchiHime fans?
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>>142361615
I think you know that answer already, so I'm not going to bite. All you need to know is that there is a very passionate group of individuals who like a certain ship in Japan that was upset at a character's increased panel time.
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http://www.narutoforums.com/threads/my-8-year-old-prediction-came-true.1074501/

I'm not the one to say holy shit, but holy shit.
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>>142361979
He's going to dual wield Tensa Zangetsu.

Black Tensa Zangetsu on the right hand.

White Tensa Zangetsu on the left hand.

Getsuga Tenshou from the Black Tensa Zangetsu.

Grand Rey Cero from the tip of the White Tensa Zangetsu.


How did he know?
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>>142353262
has Kubo been listening to ICP?
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>>142362018
It's kubo shitposting
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>>142361615
IchiRuki fans are basically the NaruSaku fans of Bleach.
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>>142362018
He isn't dual wielding Tensa Zangetsu though. Also, the sword in his right hand is the one that turned white.
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>>142359770
I think that absorbing reishi actually allows them to increase their reiryoku, and as such their reiatsu, too.
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>>142361288
>Hating on this
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>>142363640
When that scene first happened I thought she was going to say something important. Never change, Orihime
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>>142363640
Not this anon, but just saying - for some reason the few last chapters feel like it's the old Kubo again. He's been drawing Ichigo differently, with the part above his eye as an arch instead of sharp (if that makes any sense).
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Is Ichigo the most handsome shounen MC?
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>>142363128
That would be IchiHime fans and the only IchiHime faggot on this board who keeps samefagging everythread.
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>>142364360
Are you the gayest anon on this board?
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>>142364360
Yes.
Kubo started with awesome plot and bad drawing, and now he's down to bad plot and awesome drawing.
It's not like he'd do backgrounds anyway, it's the assistants' job.
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>>142364563
No anon, you are.
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>>142364510
How can you not see the similarities.

Sakura: Never romantically interested in Naruto. Main Character with more screen time.
Rukia: Never romantically interested in Ichigo. Main Character with more screen time.

Hinata: Explicitly states she is romantically interested in Naruto. Secondary character with less screen time.
Orihime: Explicitly states she is romantically interested in Ichigo. Secondary character with less screen time.

And the fans act about the same as well. The only thing that's missing a whole forum dedicated to IchiRuki that will be made private when the pair never happens.
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>>142364845
But there is. It's called Deathberry.
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>>142364960
Oh, well I stand corrected then. I look forward to it being made private. I honestly don't follow either bleach or naruto all that closely.
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>>142327330
>>142327056
God damn, the Mexico arc in the anime was god tier if you marathon it.
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>>142336492
heroes being creepier than the villains is always the best
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>>142364845
NOOO DELETE THIS
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>>142352179
cero is spanish for zero. its supossed to be part of the whole mexico theme for hollows/the arrancar arc
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>>142365050
Deathberry is inactive as fuck.
I think people seriously overestimate the amount of people who give a shit about Bleach these days if they think there's going to be a Naruto level riot when it ends.
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>>142363640
Nice to be remined that even Tatsuki has better chemistry with Ichigo than Orihime ever has.
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>>142324147
We will probably see his "true" Bankai first.
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Got a 5* Orihime on a second single pull in B:BS
I'm totally disappointed.
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>>142324147
The theory that people get sexier the stronger they are was proven completely right the last few chapter.
Look at that sexy son of a quincy.
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>>142324147
>mexican kid dragon ball tier fanart
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>>142341065
>What does Sado even bring to the table?
He's a useless piece of shit that takes away panel time.
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>>142353262

first time in years that an ichigo fight gave me chills. them eyes man.
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Is there a stage past "bankai" or whatever. Aren't the different stages of their swords just them getting closer and closer to their inner hollow, or something. Does Bleach ever make sense?
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>>142353262
That smile, is he coming out to play?
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>>142368493
They're happy to be in control again.
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>>142364845
Yup, it's especially true for the DB-likes. You have the main girl who introduces the main character into the world but isn't his love interest and the girl who is his love interest but doesn't do as much for the story. Sakura/Bulma/Botan/Rukia vs. Hinata/Chichi/Keiko/Orihime.
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>>142368432
>Hollows absorb spirit energy.
>The swords are made from "blank" hollows.
>The blank absorbs its owners spirit energy across decades to centuries, slowly giving it personality and form.
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So, if Zangetsu has always had Ichigo's powerups, then what would he look like now? Black face and white stripes like his version of Ichigo's mask, or white face and black stripes just like Ichigo? Or white face and white stripes but black horn like a retard?
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>>142369033
I assume they're back to normal. Yhwach being the old man/the teen and Zangetsu mirroring Ichigo at that moment. I'm not sure if the merging in Deicide is permanent.
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>>142369268
You've missed my point. Zangetsu, as in the actual zangetsu the sword, not the quincy, has always had an inverted version of Ichigo's outfit. White shiakusho and white shikai with black edge: has a white version of Ichigo's bankai outfit and white tensa zangetsu: black mask opposite Ichigo's white one. It follows he must look like Ichigo right now.
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>>142368978
Oh okay, is that how it works. I thought the swords were like the "inner hollows" because everyone has a hollow in them or something. Thanks for the info.
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>>142369438
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>>142361979
>my 8-year-old guess came "true"
With a million monkeys all making guesses and years of time to do it, someone is bound to get to the bull's eye to some degree.
End yourself.
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>>142369438
So yeah, he'd have an inverted color plate. Black horn but probably black stripes too since Kubo didn't make his skin black.
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>>142369033
come to think of it that doesn't even make sense post-yhwach twist. If the mask is a manifestation of the hollow and the hollow was always the sword, then why would he have an opposite version of what is a manifestation of his own powers?
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>>142369033
Did Ichigo ever actually get to wear that particular outfit? It has the hollow fur collar and cuffs.
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>>142369560
Quincy blood?
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>>142369560
Because Hollows are the opposite of Shinigami.
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>>142369486
I always liked how in specific moments, characters would not have that glow/light reflection in their eyes, fitting the situation.
And some characters never have that light.
It's the little things that count.
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>>142369614
Yeah, when he fought Ulquiorra.
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>>142368432
Bankai are the stage where the zanpakuto takes its real form and max power.
However, that doesn't mean it uses all its powers at once, like for example Byakuya can use his Senkei, Hitsugaya weather control stuff, Ichigo Getsuga, Yamamoto the four directions thing, etc.
Shikai is basically a small portion of their power that you either draw out, or the zanpakuto allows you to use, and isn't the zanpakuto's real body. Which is why it can be replaced if broken. Basically it's like the zanpakuto giving an alias and letting part of its power take the form of that alias. Which explains a lot of the name fuckery some zanpakuto do. According to creepy monk, names are srs bsns (also according to Old Man Zangetsu, as he told Ichigo that knowing Getsuga Tenshou's name would make it more powerful).
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>>142369268
Right now, with some small differences, Ichigo looks like the merging in Deicide himself.
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>>142369647
He was never an actual hollow, that's the problem with that whole development. He was Ichigo's sword spirit the whole time, supposedly. Hitsugaya's took the form of an ice dragon, Renji's the form of a nue, Ichigo's spirit just took the form of White because of White's presence in his mother's blood. It made sense for the "inner hollow" to be a dark or inverted version of Ichigo before he was revealed to be the sword. But if he was never really an opposite and he was always the true nature of Ichigo's powers, then him being an opposite makes no sense.
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>>142364563
>he wouldn't an Ichigo
what a fag
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>>142369831
That's why people said it was a nice hint. That doesn't mean they look like it right now, though. I mean, Zangetsu yes, but maybe Yhwach is out of it.
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>>142369728
No, that was his hollow form. The outfit he's wearing before fusing with not-TensaZangetsu/teenyhwach is a variation on Ichigo's bankai outfit with the hollow fur incorporated into it. Similarly the masks are not the same between his black horned mask and the hollow's.
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>>142369865
No, he's still the inner hollow - he's just also the source of Ichigo's power.
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>>142369865
>He was never an actual hollow, that's the problem
>implying you wouldn't an actual hollow
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>>142369675
I know it's probably just because of the time between appearances, but Kubo never really drew the old man the same way twice
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>>142369965
I think that if his outfit was full here it'd be identical. What are the differences you're seeing?
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>>142369033
I think that's actually his own fur, remember that the only other time we saw that Hollow Ichigo he was shirtless, and he had the fur. So that's just that version of Hollow Ichigo, with his white bankai shihakusho.
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>>142369890
I sure as hell would an Ichigo.
Full force.
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>>142370050
I really liked Ossan back before all of that shit happened. I wanted him to have a bigger part in the story. It really saddens me that Kubo forgets him and revives him when absolutely necessary. ;_;
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>>142370170
But Ichigo's second hollow form also had that fur.
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>>142370170
>>142370082
His inner hollow isn't in a hollow form there is my point. He's using a visored mask instead of a hollow form one (note eyes and that he can remove it) and he has no claws, and the fur is clearly merged with the collar of the undercloth and not his body, as well as the line of the sleeve instead of at the wrist.
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>>142370318
So what is he trying to prove here? I mean, he's been saying for years that he's Zangetsu. Why would he claim to be a hollow in Deicide if he's not?
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>>142370411
He is. "Zangetsu" is just Ichigo's power. It comes from a Hollow.
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>>142369865
I think it's more accurate to say that it wasn't his sword spirit, but rather his shinigami/hollow powers. Ichigo never really had a zanpakuto until dual wield, except maybe during the time he was borrowing Rukia's powers. He wielded a fragment of his shinigami powers in the form of a sword that was forged by his quincy powers (his ability to do so is indiscutible, as when materialized, the first thing he does is craft a hundred or so of swords from the fragments of Ichigo's soul).
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>>142370318
Ichigo also had a mask here, actually >>142369965 and this is a Visored form, Just a very spooky one.
>and he has no claws
????
he clearly does.
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>>142371139
I wonder if Ishida and his quincy powers are actually what caused Ichigo's quincy powers to awake, by subjecting him to quincy reiatsu. The exact moment that Ichigo OP reiatsu awakens is the moment that Ishida tries to use the reiatsu from his sword to shoot his arrows. COINCIDENCE? Or was it Quincy reiatsu shocking it awake?
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>>142368847
I feel bad for Botan. While in three other cases, best girls won because main girls were the worst, Botan is actually the best girl in her series.
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>>142369894
Ichigo said he needed to use Yhwach's reiatsu to 'jolt someone awake'

It's pretty safe to assume that White/Zangetsu are still entirely separate entities and the fact that the longer sword changed color upon hollowfying is just another piece of evidence in favor of that deduction.
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>>142364845
Are you literally retarded?
Everything isn't so black and white.
Ichigo and Rukia's relationship is vastly different from Sakura and Naruto's.
Anyone who believes they're the same is literally fucking retarded.
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>>142370050
Ossan is so /fa/
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>>142372325
>Everything isn't so black and white.

Tell that to Ichigo's powers.
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>>142364845
The difference is that Sakura was always all over Sasuke, and she has one single moment of shipping with Naturo after he becomes unconscious after a fight and she doesn't even say anything specific.

She is actually the Orihime equivalent, where one scene rejuvenates an underground ship that everybody knows has no chance at all, ie.: the "five lifetimes one love"
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>>142372475
Nah. Rukia is the Sakura of bleach, though a much better character.
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>>142372584
Nice counter-argument.
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>>142372584
The first characterization moment of Sakura was being all over the dick of Sasuke. You're actually matching the character based on bust size you just don't wantt to admit it.

Short flat bitch versus busty long haired housewife. That is literally it and there's nothing else to it.
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>>142372600
She is, though. She's the first girl who introduces the main character to the world of the manga and scolds/banters with him, just like Sakura and Bulma and Botan before her.
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>>142372717
She's a Sasuke fangirl who Naruto meets along with Sasuke when they get into a team, and Natruto is not a newcomer in the world of the manga that is introduced to anything. He starts off stealing a forbidden scroll for fucks sake.
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>>142372850
> Natruto is not a newcomer in the world of the manga that is introduced to anything.
He literally doesn't know what chakra is. Guess who explains that to him.

Face it, m8. Rukia is strictly Bulma/Botan/Sakura-tier. I like Rukia most of out of those but that's her role in the story and has been from the start.
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>>142372900
>actually genuinely trying this hard

I rest my case. You win the argument on the internet.
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>>142372990
You can't argue back so you just try to take the moral high ground even though you've been crying about IchiRuki being dead in the water.
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>>142372325
Kubo is following the great battle shounen tradition of YYH, Dragon Ball before Naruto was a thing. The main female character is a catalyst of adventure, a bro, but it's not the love interest. This isn't a romance manga with "complicated" love lines. Rukia and Ichigo aren't and never will be a couple. Ichigo either ends up with Orihime or no one because manga isn't interested to tell us this.

If he ends up with Orihime, which is the most logical choice, he'll add an extra boost of special snowflake bullshit to his children. Love interests generally are created to push up kids at the end for new generation.
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>>142373059
>you can't argue back

You already did that here>>142372584
I've already spent more time on this that it deserves. I'm not your proxy to convince yourself.
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>>142372325
Ichigo and Rukia relationship was done when he rescued her from SS. It never grew from then, it's a variation of the same shit. Ichigo's and Orihime's relationship changes and evolves; there's an actual gradual shift about them in how they act around each other and work together (as much as shounen allows Orihime to go next to MC Special Kun) which has been ongoing since her introduction and still happening in last chapters. Rukia and Renji got something similar but it's mostly off-screen. I'm not saying it's got to be romantic, but Kubo has shown more dedication to fleshing out more a relationship than the other. Rukia's and Ichigo's relationship is so fucking stagnant that shippers keep repeating like a broken record how Rukia will "stop his rain" even now when he's over that. They helped each other, matured, and grew up.

I don't give a fuck about shipping, but I don't see Rukia and Ichigo as making sense as couple as far as the manga has built up.
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>>142373160
I think we've listened to this argument for long enough for someone to point out that you don't really have any other examples but DBZ, YYH, and Naruto, two of which were blatant ripoff off the other. FMA is different, One Piece ad Toriko doesn't even have ships, and in fact, Kubo's own first manga, Zombie Powder didn't even have a day one love interest. Gere proximity is a prejudice, not an argument. There are actually tons of jarring differences between the mentioned mangas on several levels, as well as a plethora of shonen mangas where the exact opposite applies.

In short, the trope you're arguing for doesn't actually fucking exist in fiction.

Maybe you should expand your taste, or find a dick joke or panty shot in Bleach.

Not because it matters in regards to what anyone will believe, just only because it's getting boring.
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>>142373711
Because Kubo stated YYH and DBZ are his main inspiration. Because on the Bleach Draft, Orihime, is without a doubt THE Love interest. Authors rarely change that. Hinata was decided for Naruto, for example, long before he wrote his shit manga.
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>>142373834

Authors can and do change their mind all the time. If Bleach happened to end after Soul Society or even before that, there likely wouldn't have been any kind of romantic resolution, especially considering Orihime only got more focus as a character and had her feelings treated seriously in the later arcs.
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>>142373834
Kubo did not state that YYH and DBZ were his main inspirations, so you are already wrong there Kubo stated that Saint Seya was his main inspiration, and music, and for the character of Shinji, Lupin The Third. And literally nobody gives a fuck about the pilot because the entire idea of Snipe was scrapped for a manga with the primary first arc revolving entirely around Ichigo and Rukia, and a rescue arc where Orihime was cucked 2 times, once by herself, and a second rescue arc that ended with Ichigo injuring his friends with a power of friendship powerup. This manga is nothing like the rest.

So here's what's really going to happen: Ichigo either dies at the end of the manga, or remains in SS, because Kubo stated that the real ending of the manga will be much different than the almost-cancellation end where he lost his powers, so unless Orihime dies and becomes a spirit, you ship is pretty much fucked.

Ichigo won't have children or "next generation". This is Kubo. Even Kishi has kids. Kubo doesn't, and he has a wife. You know very well how this manga is going to end. With no romantic conclusion or a subtle one.

But not Orihime.
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>>142374025
The main problem is that Orihime's emotions towards Ichigo were explored from the perspective of the sidegirl, which is something that none of the other mangas did.

What is mistaken for shipping is a character arc of becoming a reliable woman from a gleeful teenage girl who swoons all over the powerful handsome hero.
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If you didn't think Isshin using the Getsuga Tenshou on Aizen was the coolest shit, fight me.
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Compare it to this.
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>>142375002
Are you going to use Getsuga Tenshou in the fight?
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>>142375064
>tfw I bought Ichigo's Post-Fullbring Bankai from Anime Expo
n-no
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>>142374777

I agree but the focus on her will only be meaningful if it amounts to something. Despite receiving significant focus for 2 or 3 arcs straight spanning effectively hundreds of chapters we're only just now seeing signs of meaningful change.

If Kubo were a good or at least consistent writer I would have an idea of where this was going to end up (Nobody would spend so much time on something only for it to not amount to anything, right). But he isn't and so I can't be.
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>>142375479
The problem is that I think most of her shippers are in the same psychological position as her so they mistake what the "amounts to something" is. You're supposed to grow out of these crushes and consider yourself equal to other people, otherwise your you won't have good relationships. this is not love. It's Orihime trying to compensate her own lack of confidence and power with Ichigo's radiating confidence and power. It's basically objectification.
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>>142375667
I might add I think she's already doing much better than before as Ichigo now considers her worthy to fight alongside with and I think that's a direct result of her character development here >>142375029 Not that ichigo knows about that scene but Orihime has a different aura to her. She's much more confident in herself.

But the paradox is that as she grows and gains her own confidence and power, she will need less and less of it from Ichigo. In the end the person who Orihime needs to be to ever "get" Ichigo is a completely different person who may not even need Ichigo at all.

If Kubo is as smart as he seems, this may go sideways and everyone will be not only satisfied but surprised.
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>>142375667

But Kubo had plenty of opportunity to deemphasize her feelings, point out that they aren't serious, that it's just a crush, that she doesn't really understand him, have her move on, etc. He could have had her get over her feelings after the HM arc and the time skip.

Yet he didn't, and instead did arguably the opposite by having her feelings become strengthened. With any other writer this would suggest that this would amount to something serious like a relationship upgrade but because this is Kubo I can't rule out that all it'll amount to a big metaphorical blue balls.
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>>142372475
I like how you ignore the fact that Rukia has never even come close to saying she's romantically interest in Ichigo.
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Reminder Rukia is a 150 year old Cougar if she ends up with Ichigo.

And I don't think Ichigo is a Cub.

>inb4 age is just a number
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>>142376147

Wasn't it the same with Isshin and Masaki though? There's precedent for those kinds of relationships, so I don't think it matters.
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>>142376147
Technically all the Shinigami are below their implied age in terms of maturity. I think their age is a plot device Kubo set up so he can tell stories spanning hundreds and thousands of years and he quickly forgot about it after that.
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>>142376137
Becasue as opposed to Orihime's instant-crush-just-add-water, their relationship is slowly gaining emotional momentum over the course of the series.
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>>142376371
We're hundreds of chapters in. If it doesn't have the necessary momentum by now, it never will.
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>>142326016
Gran Rey Cero Oscuras
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>>142376458
Of course it won't. Nothing's going to happen except maybe a post-ending timeskip scene or a conclusion development. The only problem with that is that in Blech it takes hundreds of years for something to change in SS so a timeskip could possible kill all the human characters like Keigo and Mizuiro but even Orihime and Chad.
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>>142376371
That's wrong. See >>142373437
Every interaction after that it was more of the same copy/paste, even their reunion in Fullbring didn't get anything new. Rukia's my favorite girl but I can't see anything romantic between them. It's more two POV, human and shinigami side, that interacted, and now are growing closer to their partners/potential love interests: Renji and Orihime.
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>>142376595
Alright. I have two images for you.

>everyone's rigidity
>my own
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>>142376538
>human characters die
>they live forever in Soul Society

Fucking stupid
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>>142376662
I think the way Rukia looks at Ichigo and regards Ichigo has changed.
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>>142376662
That's what I said:

>They helped each other, matured, and grew up.

There's nowhere to go with them. That's why Kubo doesn't bother with them. Their relationship has remained the same since SS ended. They aren't each other's love interests, but protagonists of each side (although Rukia seems replaced by Hitsugaya and her brother half of the time) interacting occasionally. Their children will be friends.
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>>142376688
Don't spirits soon forget their previous lives after the died?
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>>142376747
No, I think you're grasping the straws.
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>>142376371
But it was hardly instantly. And it wasn't even after he helped her brother move on. It took a good while to develop.

>>142376662
This is some pretty hardcore grasping. The scene isn't even specifically about Ichigo and Rukia, it's everyone in the Soul Society.

Plus
>someone taught me a life lesson
>I must now want to fuck them
Not really.
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>>142376788
Orihime remembers in the draft and she's a ghost. Who returns from Soul Society with Rukia.
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Why isn't Kubo's fashion designs real?

The fact that they aren't real and I can't own them hurts so bad.

Fuck this gay earth
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The whole point of Renji's and Orihime's storyarcs is for them to be Rukia's and Ichigo's respective partners and love interests. Are the shipperfags completely disregarding actual gradual storylines for their crack shipping of two friends who never showed any shred of romantic feeling to each other? Reminds me to fujoshipping.
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>>142376756
Actually a lot of things happened since SS arc endeth. Rukia remained in SS because that's her hope, but then they met again and interacted again. Rukia dealt with her grief over Kaien by defeating Aaroniero, after which she remembers what it was like to be rescued, which is why she set out to rescue Orihime. While Ichigo slowly became a hero wh ofights for others, from the selfish kid who just set out to protect the people close to him. They both had to change and matured as people individually. There also that 17 months where both had to deal with the experience of never seeing each other again, which led to scenes like this: >>142376662 >>142376371 >>142376662

Anon... I don't wanna go all philosophical on you, but you often only realize what's really important to you once you lose it.
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>>142376849
>the draft

Jesus Christ. Fuck your draft. Shichibe or the fuck is his name, the kid in the parrot who knows Chad, clearly states he doesn't give a fuck about finding his dead mother anymore because he has a new family now, even got a new name. It's a spiritual phenomenon.
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>>142376458
Except this necessary momentum you're talking about is cruising around at mach 3.
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>>142377022
>Rukia dealt with her grief over Kaien by defeating Aaroniero,
Which is not related to Ichigo, now is it? That's the point: her relationship with ICHIGO is done.

>from the selfish kid who just set out to protect the people close to him
Which shows with Orihime, actually, not Rukia.

>Anon... I don't wanna go all philosophical on you, but you often only realize what's really important to you once you lose it.

Huh? What does this have to do with anything? My point is that Ichigo and Rukia cannot do for themselves anything else. That's why their relationship became stagnant and repetitive. After SS, it remained unchanged and it's not romantic.
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>>142377120
>half of those scenes are filler

I agree with you, but dude....
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>>142377120
>Anime filler
>manga
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>>142377147
I don't think you understand how relationships work. You genuinely believe that Orihime's crush is what love looks like?
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>>142377153
>>142377186
Still happened. And on Valentine's day too. Kubo even said he was okay with it.
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I don't know which would be worse

IchiRuki becoming canon and then feeling empty inside when it all ends

or Rukia ending up with someone else and feeling all grievous for it
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>>142377207
Yes, Orihime's feelings are the ones portrayed as seriously romantic. While Rukia only feels a strong kinship and friendship to Ichigo. You cannot refute facts.
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>>142377261
That's not what love looks like anon. Get Disney's dick out of your ass.
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>>142377238
Same Kubo who dropped twitter for the crazy Ichigo/Rukia fanbase?

Update yourself the Bleach popular mobage had Renji/Rukia and Ichigo/Orihime this year.
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>While Rukia only feels a strong kinship and friendship to Ichigo
desu senpai she was asked about her feelings and all we got was a fake smile and "just friends" which goes against what even Kubo said
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>>142377238
>Still happened
No, that's actually kind of the point of filler. That it didn't happen.
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>>142377306
I'm talking with a landwhale? I bet you also think Sasuke and Naruto are in love.
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>>142377306
So looks like constantly behaving like friends, never saying you love each other, and being more or less battle buddies? Are you sure you don't just have autism?
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>>142377333
You mean when Kubo stated it's a close relationship without any romantic development which makes it unique? Sounds like Ichigo and Rukia.
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>>142377207

Honestly the Five Lifetimes speech alone is more substantial than virtually any romance in the shonen demographic.
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>>142377207
I don't think you know the difference between romance and friendship.
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I remember reading a post here about "the elephant in the room" with Ichigo being part Quincy a few threads ago.

If nobody cared that Ichigo is technically a Shiba (which was one of the Noble Houses), is the son of a former captain gone rogue (who was also in the Shiba House), can use the powers of a Hollow, is the spitting image of the head of the Shiba House (Kaien), and a BUNCH of other stupid shit, I don't think anyone cares if he's a Quincy.

And also for arguments sake, I'm like 78% sure Dangai Ichigo could beat Bankai Yamamoto.
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>>142377349
Kubo's opinions are God, and the God says he likes it. Same to how he didn't like Hellverse, so that isn't canon.
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>>142377531
>Bankai Yamamoto
Lille, Ichibe, Aizen and the Royal Guard could probably handle him as well.
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>>142377536
Leaving twitter because of Ichiruki shitters means that he doesn't like their shit anymore. That's why we'll see a timeskip with Rukia giving birth to Renji's twin children.
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In the end, was Askin the weakest of the Elite 4?
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>>142377529
>>142377486
>>142377392
>>142377359
I think you confuse love with drama.
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>>142377120
Imagine all the tears and suffering when a himeshipper was forced to animate this for the public.
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Rukia's feelings for Kaien ≠ Rukia's feelings for Ichigo
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>>142377536
Right, so if Kubo woke up tomorrow and tweeted Ichigo is now a super saiyan god super saiyan and has blue hair, if you went back a reread Bleach from chapter 1 all of the story would magically be changed to accommodate that tweet. Oh wait, that's retarded. Look up something called Death of the Author.

Also, I doubt he said what you claimed he did.
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>>142377120
Rukia's never said she has romantic feelings for Ichigo.
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>>142377394
He didn't say it like that... But my point is that she lied. It's left ambiguous on purpose, even Kubo's comment does. It might not develop further, but I think it'd be fine if Ichigo ended up with Orihime - he'd still have that special bond with Rukia. Personally Rukia suits him more and would be a nicer closure to all their shared moments.

>>142377653
All it took was the destruction of his heart, so I guess. Depends how you look at it. It was just another science fight, where brawlers like Ichigo got rekt.
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>>142377664
Nothing I said even came close to implying that.
Try making a post that's longer than a few words. Fully explain yourself.
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>>142377739
>Depends how you look at it
Well, could Askin defeat either of the other three Schutzstaffel? I don't think so.
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>>142377731
You don't have to say you love someone to love someone anon.

Maybe this is why you're still stuck in your mom's basement.
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Why does post time skip Rukia look exactly like Hanataro?
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>>142377837
>Th-they just do, okay!?
Sorry m8 this is literature, not real life, and shonen at that. NaruSaku didn't happen and Rukia's the Sakura of this manga.
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>>142377739
Shared moments don't do a relationship. And none of their moments were romantic. Rukia was thinking about just opening up to people in general. She couldn't even call herself Ichigo's friend back then.

>He didn't say it like that...

He literally stated there was no romantic development between Ichigo and Rukia despite being so close. That's exactly why he seemed to like their relationship because it's not a cliche one.
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>>142377837
This is correct, but there is also nothing in any of Rukia's actions that imply she has romantic feelings for Ichigo either.
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>>142377769
Science always trumps everything else in Bleach, so my answer is yes.

Askin just poisons Pernida, Miracle and Lille to oblivion with his AoE. Even if he cant kill them, they'll be incapacitated.
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>>142377882
>Narusaku is IchiRuki
>Rukia is Sakura
>Kubo is Kishi
End yourself.
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>>142378019
See >>142368847
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>>142377973
Askin isn't really a scientist, though. He just has poison-based abilities, but is hardly as adaptable and versatile as Urahara or Mayuri, is he?

On another note, why are there so few ranged fighters in Bleach? Aside from Gin, Lille and Askin, nobody specializes in long range combat.
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>>142378019
>Th-this time it'll be different, guys! I-it has to be!
I don't even ship anything in bleach but your meltdown is gonna be hilarious.
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>>142378043
'Cause it's not as cool to have a sniper battle when everyone's carrying around swords.
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>>142378085
I'm a HUGE ichiruki fag but honestly the salt that would flow forth from either ending would be worth it
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>>142377739
Kubo stated there was no romantic development between Ichigo and Rukia in 2008. So all the pages you bring as examples cannot be construed as romantic.

You better look for post 2008 examples if there's any to actually make a strong case about it. It's not looking very good when 99% of their meaningful interaction is pre 2008.
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>>142378043

You have to be up close with your opponent in order to have banter.

Also in spite of the Quincy being archers, this is predominantly a series about swordsmen.
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>>142378191
>You have to be up close with your opponent in order to have banter.

Ranged combat would make Bleach hilarious that way.
>Hah, you thought your pathetic volleys could hurt me?
>What?
>I said, you thought your-
>Can you speak up? I can't hear you from over here.
>YOUR PATHETIC VOLLEYS-
>Still can't make it out, can you come closer?
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>>142378138
I don't know, Starrk's fight was pretty cool.
Every character who fights dirty (Gin, Askin, Shunsui, Urahara) have had entertaining fights, so I don't think sniper battles would be boring.
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>>142378311
delet this
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>>142378085
I don't ship anything either, but the two are incomparable, and I find it unfathomably stupid that desperate shippers use different serial as evidence to support their ship.
The characters in question are nothing alike and the relationships between them are nothing like either.
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>>142378316
They're interesting because they're different. If it was the norm it would get boring.
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>>142378163
>99% of their meaningful interaction is pre 2008.
I disagree. Meaningful interaction between them in the romantic context is quite balanced even to this day, if you ask me.

Ichigo was pretty tsun in the fullbring arc, going as far as lying to Keigo. For example.
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>>142378354
>The characters in question are nothing alike and the relationships between them are nothing like either.

You're being willfully obtuse if you think Rukia and Sakura's roles in the story aren't similar.
>Both first girls
>Both main girls
>Both banter with/scold the main character
>Both introduce the character to the rules of the manga
>Both have another dude they were fixated on

Orihime and Hinata, meanwhile
>Both second girls
>Both already crushing on the main character at the start
>Both extremely hesitant to confess their feelings
>Both feel weak because they can't protect the MC
>Both have a character arc that culminates in them being more confident and being next to the main character

Rukia is a much better character than Sakura, certainly, and Orihime isn't as good as Hinata, but they suit those archetypes. That's literature.
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It's a shame we didn't get more of both Zangetsus in Bleach. Every appearance was a good moment
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>>142378604

You're reaching quite a bit with some of those. And at the end of the day even if they share some superficial similarities, it doesn't mean their characters will play out the same way.
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>>142378617
I keep rewatching moments when Hichigo takes over, and I will continue to do it for years.
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>>142378708
>if I say something is reaching then that means it is
What you're doing is making baseless claims.
Here, let me help. Your statement should read something like this:

You are reaching quite a bit with some of those because _____

Fill in the blank.
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>>142378708
>it doesn't mean their characters will play out the same way.
Sure, that's certainly possible, but if it looks like a Naruto and flaps like a YuYu Hakusho and quacks like a Dragon Ball Z, there's no reason to expect any different.
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>>142378604
>Both have another dude they were fixated on
Sakura wanted to fuck Sasuke. Rukia only wanted a normal relationship between a superior and a subordinate, what she indeed had.

>Both have a character arc that culminates in them being more confident and being next to the main character
Hueco Mundo didn't achieve that for Orihime. Not by a long shot.

The rest of your points don't really mean anything. And even if your post was 100% correct? It still wouldn't. If anything, it might imply that Kubo will reach another conclusion, because Kubo and Kishi don't live in separate worlds. Kubo likes to do his own thing. Making Rukia's story play like Sakura's, or Orihime's story play like Hinatas, is really not like him.

Even if his pacing sucks and his battles are really simple.
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>>142378802
>Hueco Mundo didn't achieve that for Orihime. Not by a long shot.

Factually wrong.

Pre Hueco Mundo: >>142374777
Post-Hueco Mundo: >>142375029

>If anything, it might imply that Kubo will reach another conclusion
Hey, he totally might, but don't come crying to me when you get hit by a car that you thought was a sheet of paper after I told you it was a car.
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>>142378708
Not that guy, but none of that is reaching, because all of that happened. I don't ship, but IF Kubo plans on following a similar story telling motif as Kishi, then I can see Ichigo ending up with Orihime. If not, then it's all up in the air.

>>142378802
>Rukia only wanted a normal relationship between a superior and a subordinate
But that's wrong. Rukia looked to Kaien the same way Orihime looked at Ichigo.
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>>142377750
I generally deny to participate in arguments where it becomes obvious that the person's own view on life (based on his experiences) is involved, because it's underhanded and often ineffective to try to attack/change that. But I can say a few things.

Orihime isn't in love with Ichigo, she wants to be like him. She's in love with an idea in her own head, the hero, and she projects in on Ichigo. Her level of understanding of Ichigo is at all times inversely proportional to how infatuated she in with him. The first time that is shown is when he pulls a Hollow mask against Grimmjow, she is terrified.

Orihime understood Ichigo as a person better when this scene happened.

When you fall in love with an ideal in your own head and project it onto other people you only distance yourself from them.

I think Orihime's real nature isn't to be in love with Ichigo.
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>>142378959
Again, the only similarity they share is bust size, which is your real argument, it's just shallow to say that, so you look for additional similarities.
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>>142379017
Jesus Christ, here we go. This is literature, not real life. Characters follow archetypes. Nothing in the story says "Orihime is just in love with an idea of Ichigo." Hell when she gets scared of the mask in the Grimmjow fight, Nel tells her to get over her shit and she does seconds later.
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>>142378915
>Post Hueco-Mundo
She didn't achieve that within an "arc" - she achieved that within a really fucking long arc, 17 months and years in real time. To say that the two are similar because of this is silly. Silly!

>>142378959
>Rukia looked to Kaien the same way Orihime looked at Ichigo.
fucking really?

>>142379130
>Characters follow archetypes
Not an argument.
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>>142379130
Except that every character in Bleach so far followed realistic archetypes in this. you want a more jarring example? How well did Orihime understand Ichigo's predictable behavior when she "scarified herself for the greater good" by going with Ulquiorra?
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>>142378778

Okay fine, we'll go point by point.

>Both introduce the character to the rules of the manga

Sakura does not really serve this role at all. That more commonly falls to teacher characters like Kakashi.

>Both have another dude they were fixated on

Sakura's feelings for Sasuke and the dynamic of their relationship are nothing like that between Rukia and Kaien.

>Both feel weak because they can't protect the MC

Protecting Naruto was not really Hinata's goal, as much as it was not giving up in general.

And in general, Orihime is not nearly as timid as Hinata was and she has always been a member of the central cast unlike Hinata who was always a side character.

The overall point being you are taking aspects of the characters and twisting them so that they fit. As I said, I feel the parallels people draw between these characters are largely superficial to the point of being meaningless.
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>>142378959

>I don't ship, but IF Kubo plans on following a similar story telling motif as Kishi, then I can see Ichigo ending up with Orihime. If not, then it's all up in the air.

Well this just says nothing because we can't possibly know Kubo's true intentions.

You may as well say "If Kubo plans to air Ichigo and Rukia together, then it will happen. But, if he plans to pair Ichigo and Orihime together then that will happen."

You aren't really saying anything at all!
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>>142379017
>the person's own view on life (based on his experiences) is involved
This is what I would call a pretty text book case of projecting, as that is more or less exactly what you are doing.

There are no set "rules" for loving someone. Her wanting to be like Ichigo does not somehow exclude her also being in love with him. That being said, Orihime also strives to better herself so she can stand next to Ichigo as an equal. Her at first being scared of his hallow mask is not her failing to see him as her ideal self, it's her not understanding what's going on. She doesn't know how all the hollowfication nonsense works. Ichigo doesn't either. He was also terrified at first of his own hollow mask.
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>>142376747
>Not Kinging like the Kong
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>>142379302
Not only that but the continuity doesn't match up either. Sakura is swooning over Sasuke in the very scene of her introduction. We only earn about Kaien near the very end of the SS arc, and he is a person who is close to both looks and in behavior to Ichigo, actually connecting Ichigo and Rukia, which neither Sasuke even did for Naruto, nor Naruto ever did for Sasuke. And it's only as the two of them search for Sasuke that they get closer to each other.

Just like Orihime and Ichigo as they rescue Rukia.
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>>142379398
I think you just don't want to accept that it wouldn't be a healthy or satisfying relationship. She "loves" him much more than he does, if he even does at all. He's bound to "disappoint" her.

I like how you always talk about how well either girls verbalize their love while Ichigo is entirely zangetsusexual.
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>>142379631
There you go, treating these characters like they're real people and not characters. People talked about how Sakura and Sasuke would never end up together because it's too unhealthy but look what happened.
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>>142379691
Actually it was pretty predicable because Sasuke is a giant abusive dick. I don't read the spinoff but if I'm correct it's even possible he left her with the kid of another woman.
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>>142379302
I'll just say that I am drastically out of date and have not watched Naruto or Bleach in a years, but I'm fairly sure I can counter most of these points with what I do know. I'm also not the person you were originally replying to.

While Kakashi does also fill that mentor role it's wrong to say that Sakura also doesn't do this. There are very many cases where Naruto gets confused by something, Sakura sighs and explains it to him begrudgingly.

Sakura/Sasuke and Rukia/Kaien actually do have a very similar dynamic. As both Rukia and Sakura are constantly trying to reach someone who is always out of reach or otherwise chasing some other goal.

I haven't watched the Pain arc of Naruto, but I've watched webm's people have posted. I know that Hinata stands up to Pain when Naruto gets knocked out and she does her very best to defend him. This scene is very similar to the Ichigo x Ulquiorra final fight where Orhime does something very similar to Hinata by standing up to Ulquiorra. Neither Hinata or Orihime are actually all that timid and they both get their shinning moments.

Anyway, that's about all I can say on the subject with my incomplete knowledge.
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>>142379769
> Actually it was pretty predicable because Sasuke is a giant abusive dick
That's precisely why people (if you can call NSfags people) were saying it wouldn't happen.

But no, Sakura's the mom, even though that kinda destroys the point of the gaiden.
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>>142379631
>healthy
Please keep buzzwords like this on tumblr. Also, when you reply to a post, address what is is saying. Don't just dismiss it and rant while giving non-answers.

>talk about how well either girls verbalize their love
Sorry but this makes no sense in English.

Your whole argument is more or less based around Orihime getting scared of some crazy magical nonsense that even the MC himself got scared of.
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>mfw shipping gets this deep
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>>142379817
I don't understand why. Him being a giant abusive dick proves that he WOULD use Sakura's infatuation to get laid, then leave.

Ichigo is not a giant abusive dick. He'd back out of answering or turn her down politely, but he would not use her.
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>>142379950
We're just having fun, anon. It's not like we're talking symbolism.
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>>142379944
Ichigo is closer to Rukia in terms of the intensity of his feelings than to Orihime.
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>>142380013
That's right! We're having fun!
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>>142379691
Then again Sasuke is kind of an extreme tsundere who tried to kill the brother whom he loved AND repeatedly tried to kill his best friend who was basically the only other person he respected and could relate with, all the while denying to his face that he mattered to him.

Then again Sasuke is pretty much a PTSD victim.
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>>142380058
>don't dismiss what people say and give non-answers
>very first thing he does is dismiss everything in the post he's replying to
Nice.
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>>142380078
I prefer posts like this >>142379804 which actually do notable character comparison over the standard shitflinging.
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Let's just accept that tsundere Riruka is the best girl and Ichigo actually likes her.
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On an unrelated topi, I wish someone would scan all of the colored volumes so we can use them, because they are pretty good.
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>>142380168

Rukia's not tsundere, she is at best kuudere but even then not especially.
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>>142364203

It looks like he's drawing old Ichigo like chapters 50-200
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>>142380205
I think she's pretty tsun, though definitely not Taiga.
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>>142379804

I don't think anything I posted really required knowledge of Shippuden, it's all more or less stuff established fairly early in the series. Anyway, I don't really want to dig to deeply into discussing how closely the characters parallel each other, and I don't think this thread will last much longer either, but I'll at least reply to what you posted.

>There are very many cases where Naruto gets confused by something, Sakura sighs and explains it to him begrudgingly.

Sakura does sometimes serve as an info dump (because she's book smart) to explain things to Naruto (and the reader) but as you acknowledged she's not the only character who does this and given that she is also a child in the beginning there are many things she's not aware of that other characters have to explain.

Rukia on the other hand knows substantially more than anyone else at the beginning of the story, considering she is the only shinigami (other than Urahara and Yoruichi) so she pretty much has to explain everything and anything that happens.

>As both Rukia and Sakura are constantly trying to reach someone who is always out of reach or otherwise chasing some other goal.

I don't really see Rukia and Kaien's relationship being this way. Not to mention Kaien had a wife and so Rukia could have never pursued a relationship with him anyway even if she did feel romantically attracted to him.

Regarding Hinata, it's true that she does get a few opportunities to "protect" Naruto later in the series, but it's kind of a futile sentiment. In her fight with Pain for example, she gets rekt within moments of challenging him because he's way out of her league, and it's seeing her injured that causes Naruto to go berserk, which is what saves him. So while it does happen a few times, I would say protecting him isn't her real goal so much as it is keeping up with him and being at his side.
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New thread?
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>>142379017
I generally abstain from shipping arguments but when someone goes out of their way to make such a false assessment I can't help it

Orihime is very much in love with Ichigo. At the beginning of the series, it was a crush. She liked the lonely, brooding, temper-mental classmate and knew not much else about him. She herself is quiet, reserved, and and didn't understand Ichigo. This led to Ichigo being completely oblivious to her feelings and kept her on the sidelines, as a friend but not extremely close.

Through the heap of shit that Ichigo and friends experienced through the SS arc, she came to understand Ichigo a lot more. She still couldn't 100% empathize with him but she began to see the sides of Ichigo that turned her crush into love.

Yeah Orihime wants to emulate the aspects of Ichigo she finds admirable, it helps her grow as a character/person. She's always had the desire to protect her friends and to be mentally/physically stronger. Being around Ichigo is what gave her to motivation to actually change. But her feelings for him go deeper than admiration.

I mean if anything, the more Orihime has seen of the real Ichigo the more she comes to love him. This has been a blossoming theme since the beginning of the story. Of fucking course Orihime was scared of the hollow mask. In chapter 4 she and Tatsuki are attacked by a goddamned hollow and almost killed. Not to mention all the horror Hollows/Arrancars caused her and her friends up until the Ichigo/Grimmjow fight. It was a reactive, instinctual fear. It wasn't her being afraid that her ideal of Ichigo didn't match the real thing.

Whatever the romantic ending is for Ichigo, if there is one, I don't really care. But it's painfully obvious that Orihime's feelings for Ichigo are one of love and attraction. Does this mean IchiHime is definitely going to happen? No for all I know Orihime is going to tear off a mask next chapter, reveal herself to be Aizen and that she's been that way since Hueco Mundo.
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>>142380424
Rukia does not help Ichigo in regards to how the world works, after he is introduced Urahara takes that role.

Rukia pulls Ichigo out of emotional turmoil, for which she always needs her own uniquely deep understanding of Ichigo.
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>>142380537

Admittedly I haven't read/watched the beginning of the series in a long ass time but Rukia absolutely does play and advisory role in the very first chapters/episodes when they don't even know what a hollow or shinigami or zanpakto is.
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>>142380627
>>142380537

Rukia is also responsible for Ichigo gaining his Shinigami, hollow powers, and quincy powers.

I can explain why if you want.

Rukia is the symbol of his power.
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>>142380515
Alright. I can respect that opinion. I see them more as friends. For my understanding of love, a much deeper understanding is required. People who finish each others sentences, understand each others thoughts, and can always rely on each other faring well individually. Orihime is much too reliant for that, and I think she overhypes Ichigo insead of loving the actual person that he is. But I admit she's growing out of that as shown by this fight. She didn't need to be protected yet, not did any narration need stated that Ichigo fights stronger when there are people around him he has to protect. We all remember Ginjou said that when Orihime was around for the training.
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>>142380717

Orihime has baby lover with Ichigo, and no special relationship no more than Ichigo's relationship with Ishida.

The only special relationship Ichigo has is with Rukia. It's even listed as such in the official Bleach bond chart.

Orihime and Ishida and Chad are listed as "nakama" while Ichigo and Rukia are listed as "precious-nakama"
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>>142380424
But the same can be said for Rukia. As she is not the most knowledge person is the series. There are other notable characters that parallel Kakashi, such as Urahara. He's a person who's in the know about mainly everything, just like Kakashi is in the know about mainly everything like Orichimaru.

Yes, Kaien had a wife. But that does not change the fact that Rukia was infatuated with him. There was even blushing scenes and everything that a staple in your romance story setting.

As far as the last point goes. I actually don't know where says Orihime's main goal is to protect Ichigo. She does say that she wants to protect him, or rather have him be safe, but that's a pretty standard sentiment.
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>>142380717

I think the current fight has done a lot so far to deconstruct the criticisms of their relationship. They were able to communicate their intentions with just eye contact, among other things.
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>>142380781

>Orihime has baby lover with Ichigo, and no special relationship no more than Ichigo's relationship with Ishida.

Oh please, Uryuu wishes he was on the same level with her as Ichigo is.
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>>142380867

That's exactly my point

In Ichigo's eye Orihime is just a nakama.

Orihime views Ichigo as a potential love interest

It's takes two to tango dude.
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>>142380907
>In Ichigo's eye Orihime is just a nakama.
After a lot of what he says in the New Mexico arc that's pretty hard to claim. He goes to extreme, extreme lengths for Orihime.
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>>142380807

Well yeah, once Rukia gets taken back to Soul Society her role as a teacher ends because the world opens up much more. But before then she is most often the source of knowledge when dealing with hollows and other supernatural phenomena. In Naruto that role is spread among several different characters.
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>>142380907

This isn't saying anything new though. Yes, Ichihime is one-sided, as it has always been, and Ichiruki is zero-sided with at best some implications being thrown both ways.
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>>142380984

He would go to any other lengths for any of his friends.

That's the entire plot arc of Ichigo. "He who protects"

not replying to this shill any longer.
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>>142381032

Chad Rescue Arc when?
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>>142381030

Ichiruki is subtle. Exactly. Implications thrown both ways, through double meanings and subterfuge.

"Fullbring is the power of love"

etc
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>>142380907
In Ichigo's eyes, Rukia is just a nakama.
In Rukia's eyes, Ichigo is just a nakama.
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>>142381032

So what makes Rukia any different then? Some "bond chart" from a databook?
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>>142380989
After she is kidnapped, because they don't interact in that manner in SS arc. They interact in the context of the plot.
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>>142381072

So "muh parallels", yeah got it, like I said nothing new.
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>>142381058
Wasn't the fullbring arc suppose to be Chad's arc according to Kubo? or was that some bullshit from here
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>>142381032
Not sure you know what the word shill means.

>>142381072
>Ichiruki is subtle.
Weird way of saying nonexistent.
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>>142381098

>when Ichigo and Rukia part ways time is said to stop until they are reunited
>Ichigo can't live without Rukia in the poem

lool nakama power right guys
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>>142381030
Actions speak louder than words.

Orihime says she loves Ichigo, but when she leaves with Ulquiorra all she cares about is being the same protector that Ichigo is.
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>>142381196
What are you even talking about?

When Ichigo and Rukia split up is when they both go through most of their character growth.
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>>142381102
>So what makes Rukia any different then?
do I have to point out every single thing
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>>142381196

And yet Orihime is the one with the name inspired by the Tanabata legend.
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>>142381250
Yeah, kinda. That's what having discussion is about. Even more so when you are just making things up and trying to deflect. You've been doing nothing but make sure one liners.
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>>142381237

>Actions speak louder than words.

Only for shippers who don't have the latter to rely on.
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