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ITT: Based MCs

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ITT: Based MCs
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Literally Hitler.
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>>142284376
if hitler literally smoked weed in japan
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>ITT: Stoner MCs

fixed
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>>142284509
He's Hitler, he wants to kill humanity because they're all niggers but he's too lazy to so he leaves it all to his bro.
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>>142284326
Dude was a father at age 13. He just doesn't give a fuck.
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He has the best girl ever to appear in WSJ as his wife.
Anna is fucking godly.
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Wasn't it revealed at the end that he actually didn't give a shit about the human race at all or something?
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>>142284992
he basically left his son to hao, he's kind of enigmatic, just wanna listen to bob marley forever
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>>142285061
Hana was a clown and not at all chill like his parents.
Let Uncle Hao have the honor of raising the little shit through puberty.
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>when MC is so based all villains are forced to gang up on him at once to stand a chance
>still almost managed to wipe the floor with all of them
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Yoh was pretty cool.
I really liked that he wasn't the de facto strongest member of his team (I think Chocolove, Horohoro, and someone else were stronger, Yoh was around the middle) - he's just central because that is how it is.
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>>142285093
because he's way too powerful and has oni-hax powers.Well, everyone's kids turned into beasts but yoh could've instilled some chill into him.
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>>142284326
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>>142285324
he had the best will, which translated to a lot of power, but chocolove and horohoro all had their moments when they wrecked everything
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>>142284992
>>142285061
If there's such a thing as being too chill, Yoh fits it I guess
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>>142284326
>ynw a king who smokes pot evry day while giving a shit for absolutely everything
based as fuck
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>>142284326
>never finished sharman king
I remember i liked it but something just made me stop.
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>>142285424
He never got imprisoned for being too chill, like that guy from Yugioh GX.
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>>142285801
You were better off stopping. After the hiatus everything kind of went to shit. But dam was it fun before that!
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>>142285324
Chocolove had the highest furyoku..
Ren was relentless which means he could go at full power no matter who he was fighting.
Horohoro wouldn't stay down.
Yoh was so chill he could meh his way through his opponent's OS.
LSDshota was meh, Ryu was the weakest.

One thing SK did right was establishing Hao as a broken-as-fuck unbeatable big bad and **stuck to that. He literally murders everyone BEFORE leaving his room.**
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>>142286249

I remember the final furyoku rating was:

1. Chocolove
2. Lyzerg
3. Horo Horo
4. Yoh
5. Ren
6. Ryu
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>>142284326

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjFPJQ9tywc
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>>142286249
Why the fuck was Hao so strong anyway?
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>>142287691
Mostly because fuck you, but also because he could control his own cycle of reincarnation and dying makes you stronger.
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>>142287691
reincarnating thousands of times

basically dying and reviving gives people a power boost so every time Hao gets defeated in a Shaman King tournament he revives even stronger than before

Hao is the founder of the Asakura clan so and every time he starts his bullshit one of his relatives kills him off for being a dick only to reincarnate in the next generation
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>>142284941
Anna is literally worst girl from anything ever.
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>>142288152
commanding the literal representation of all fire in the world doesn't hurt either
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>>142285220
That's not based, that's being a Mary Sue.
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>>142284326
Hello, 12 year old me
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>>142288396
No, from his greentext that would be overpowered. Mary Sue doesn't mean simply overpowered, you meme spouting fucktard.
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>>142287691

He grinded in hell for 900 years.
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>>142288396
Except he's a heavily flawed character who only excels at combat and molesting one girl for 3000 years.
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>>142284326
Still man about the "end".
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>>142286473
and still got their shit pushed in the last chapters
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>>142289486

That's because they were still small time when compared to Hao, they were all around 100.000 and Hao had 1.250.000.
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>>142284588

But he's friends with a nigger
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>>142289569
not even Hao, I meant the Patch officers
the alien one was cute
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>>142287691
Nigga had figured out reincarnating.
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Let's play guess which drug the protagonists of Shonen Jump use?

Yoh - Weed (of course)
Ichigo -
Goku -
Naruto -
Deku -
Gon -
Yusuke -
Luffy -
Seiya -
Kenshin -
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>>142287691
He gets stronger whenever he dies & comes back.
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>>142287691
the fire spirit itself was ultra OP
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>>142289613
she certainly was, anyway the patch were presumable raised from birth just to serve the shaman king, it'd be pretty bad if they could't put up a fight against 5 14 year olds and their tag-alongs
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>>142289748

Goku - Speshul jeans
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>>142289370
Hao is forever Anna's bitch. Not even Shaman King Flowers Hao has anything on her.
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>>142289613
>>142289836

If I remember correctly the Patch Officers had a special ritual to defend the Shaman King while he was ascending that greatly increased their powers.
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>>142289892
that part where anna calls out for yoh when hao is trying to read her mind
>>142289916
it was a song, but the boost could've been that great, they had to be pretty strong before it too
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>>142289916
they sang a retarded song that increased their power
they were also ungodly powerful for some reason, which still seems weird to me, as some of them were pretty nervous when they were near other teams (like those ones using buddha gods)
Krum for example, we barely know shit about him and he is on par or even stronger than Ren?
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>>142284326
SOOooo what happens to the continuation of Flowers?
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>>142284326
it is weird how Lyzerg is so much more likeable in the manga than in the anime
in the former he is never an ass, he only joins the X Laws because they happened to find him at random, but he never turned against Yoh and the gang
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>>142289748
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>>142290207
no word on it yet, keep waiting though, we'll see it someday
I hope
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>>142290056
The ending in general was pretty rushed, all those fights against the officials were lame.

Chrome and Ren's was finished in a single chapter when it has a lot of history behind it for example.

>>142290208
Intially Lyzerg seems like muh revenge edgelord #15225, so that's were the anime decided to take his character.
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>>142290264
It was shaping up to be pretty good, I won't lie.
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>>142290280
Takei was under heavy restraints at that point, it was a post-cancellation chapter after all
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>one shot of how Ren and Jeanne of all people came together never
JUST
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>>142289748
Deku - steroids
Luffy - ecstasy no mi
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>>142290427
Ren's sister was super hawt
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>>142284326
remember that scene where he goes to drink some coffee with Hao?
based
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Rutherfor a Cute!

Cute!
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>>142290427

>We'll never know how Jeanne died either
>Or what's Hao's keikaku with Hana's oni hax
>Or about the older Shaman Kings
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>>142290838
Yosuke also said something about Hao giving Hana a "special kind of evil" referring to Sakurai becoming Hana's ghost
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>>142290838
I wonder what kind of shitstorm it would have caused to have Jesus or Buddha as potential antagonists. They were former Shaman Kings, right?

Imagine Mohammed as an evil Shaman King
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>>142290990
>implying nips would give a shit
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>>142290990
I think the mangaka would care as much as Yoh.Not much.

Mangaka seems like the "Olden times were better" kind of guy,so the SK before CAPITALISM might've been an ally.
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All I ever wanted from this series was a faithful anime adaption.
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>>142290838
Feels bad, man.
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If there's one thing I disliked about SK was the whole past boner.

Still a great series,but it gets kinda annoying at points.

And they agree with Hao at the end.Then Yoh takes his kid to the Middle East to show how wrong they were.Weird series.
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>>142290838
>All that HYPE for Hana's Dead Zero O.S.

GODDAMNIT SHUEISHA/TAKEI
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So shamans wield unlimited cosmic power but it's not really difficult to talk them out of doing anything?
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>>142292196

Hao had some deep issues with his mom.
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>>142292196
Or shoot them.Unless they're BS like Hao.
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>>142284992
Not really, I think he was disappointed by people in a lot of the same ways Hao was, but I don't think he actually hated them.
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>>142290830
I had to watch more of her

Looks Tsundere
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If there was any shounen I'd want to have a modern remake of, this would actually be it
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The best.
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>>142292196
You try getting slapped by your mom that's been dead for 1000 years and not reconsider what you're doing
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God tier OP
https://youtu.be/Ps0K-v0Pw0E
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>>142284326
This Strawberry Milk Guzzler
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Why didn't Iron Maiden constantly kill and rezz all the X-Laws? She did it in the last few days but she could have had a few years head start and wipe the floor with Hao.
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>>142292080
So what exactly happened to Shaman King Flowers. I remember reading it up to a point then it just stopped updating. I haven't heard anything since. Did it get axed?

>we will never see more of hippy adult Anna traveling around with her husband Yoh
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>>142292803
The magazine itself got axed I think.
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>>142292803
>>142292833
this, takei has tried to resume it though no magazine has picked it up yet
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Tanaka is best
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>>142292612

The english dub one was nice but both original OPs were great, also amazing OST in general:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RdQFVXAHeI
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>>142285334
seconding this
Also most of the cast of Nichibros.
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>>142292869
Damn, you would think it would get picked up seeing the success of Shaman King.

So many mysteries that will probably remain unsolved. I hope he finds a way.
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>>142284326
DUDE WEED LMAO
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>>142292803
You know,I don't like how stoic everyone got after they grew up.Except good old Ryu.
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>>142292998
he usually does, sk itself came back from cancellation, and he has another manga that was rebooted after it was cancelled
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Shaman King Brotherhood when?
I really liked the character design and cast in general. Thought it was one of the better shounen before it went to shit near the end.
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>>142292196
Even in Shaman King Flowers, Hao is Anna's bitch. They once died but Anna proceeded to make Hao shit himself so hard that he brought them back to life.
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>>142292998
Isn't the author doing a another manga entirely now?
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>>142292919
Nothing beats the russian version though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrvd-CwGp3A
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>>142284326
>somehow thinks bringing his baby to a middle eastern warfront was somehow a good idea
Man, this nigga is lucky he's literally friends with God
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>>142293302
Looking at his page on mangaupdates, it looks like he's working on new things as well.

I just really hope he gets back to Flowers and finishes it up with a satisfying end at least.
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>>142293383
He still died. Even with the Spirit of Earth against a metal enemy.
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>>142290964
>literally giving a kid a jap war criminal for his spirit
based hao
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>>142293302
nekogahara, it'll be available in english by the end of the year

he was working on at least two other series while doing flowers too
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>>142284326
>Watch - Shaman King
>Expectation - /x/
>Got - /m/
/m/


>>142285334
Oh shit, I literally come here to post Watashi.
Great taste m8.

>Pic related
Another great MC
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>>142293383
No, he's lucky that his wife has said deity by the balls.
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>>142292080
the zero is the sexiest plane
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>>142293181
Was Shaman King as popular as FMA back then?

But yeah, a proper adaptation would be amazing

>Ozorezan Au Revoir
>10 Patch Priests fights that are longer than a single chapter
>Horohoro backstory
>proper Fights against Hao's lackeys
>Gandhara

I'd even pay for that shit
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>>142289370
>entire plot revolves around fighting
>MC is extremely overpowered
>B-but muh flawed personality
How does that matter at all?
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>>142290621
oh man
I remember having a raging tiny shota boner every time she showed up in the anime
dem china dress
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>>142293616
>MC is extremely overpowered
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>>142293616
>MC is extremly overpowered

Actually, he's not even the strongest among his group, he is rather in the middle. It's the bad guy that's literally unbeatable
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>>142292495
I started to trail off around the time they headed to Europe. Is it worth picking up again.
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>>142293341

top kek
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>>142293664
>Got extremly hard whenever Jeanne showed up an tortured people
>Fapped many times to the scenes where she killed these Egyptian guys when that manga came out

I-I'm not the only one who did that, right?
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>>142293602
>Horohoro backstory
We got like, 10 hororo back stories. What'shername was a qt before turning into kororo thou
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>>142293868
Only when she was topless
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>>142293909
All of his backstory chapter were great. The fight with the Lego Guy, the thing with his father and the Gandhara fight and his Guardian Spirit reveal can out of nowhere but was really cute

I especially liked it when they revealed his true name was Trey Racer
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>>142293779
Funny, that's the exact time I lost interest.
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>>142284326
One of my biggest deception as kid. Not because it was bad, it was great, but I still remember the day the last 3 episodes were aired. Those faggot broadcasted the last episode before the 2 other one.

Fuck you Fox Kids fr.
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>>142293558
>>142293263

Holy fuck, you're God. How are you still getting fucked with?
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>>142293602

Manga Shaman King but with a non-rushed ending would be fucking amazing.
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>>142294104
i remember this
fuck them all
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>>142290990
Well we don't know, and probably never will. Only two members of the G8 are known so far.
Manta did speculate in the original story that Jesus might have been one, though.

I'm kind of torn. Flowers had potential, but it wasn't actually all that interesting. And I'm worried it might have fucked up the original's ending and Hao's victory.

Shaman King's ending was pretty fantastic, though it would've been perfect if it had been a bit longer and more detailed.
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Who is /a/ favorite character in Shaman King series back then?
Mine is Tao Ren.
He end up with best girl too. Pic related.

Also, Ren older sister is so sexual.
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>>142294165
It was nice the author could eventually finished it, but 10 chapters were far from enough to tie up the loose ends.

Instead of giving the storylines some sort of closure, he kept addingt new interesting stuff that he hadn't got time to really get into detail about.

Like how the Patchs' actually got their technique from Ancient Aliens? Damn, I would have loved to learn more about that and the absolute QT that was Rutherfor, but he only had like 3 chapters left.

The whole Hao climax was also handled in a single chapter, such a shame
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>>142294163
>Anna
She made one of the /a/nons here develop a femdom fetish. She's got everyone by the balls.
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>>142294434
Ryu was the biggest bro
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>>142294434

Lyzerg, cutest shota.
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>>142294525
>one of the /a/nons

Make that two. Every SK girl was just made for Femdom
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>>142294434
He was only a minor antagonist, but damn did I love him
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>>142294434
Ren's sister was fucking bombing.
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>>142294450

>The whole Hao climax was also handled in a single chapter, such a shame

To think that Yoh's group had gotten the OP as fuck elemental spirits but we could see just one panel for each.

The final chapter was:

>Hao: I'm a God
>Yoh: We have the elemental spirits
>Hao: Useless
>Anna: Here's your mom
>Hao: Ok I won't kill everyone

I'm not saying it was bad, I think that having the Big Bad win and be unbeatable but somehow persuade him to not kill everyone is brilliant for a battle shounen. But it really needed some more chapters.
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>>142294727
I always wondered where the announcer went.
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>>142294434
Ren's team, all three are my favorites
>>142294450
it was going to be expanded on in flowers, the brought it up a few times
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I know Anna is Takei's waifu and he wanted a badass character but he was sucking her non-existent dick way too much.

She's far beyond anything in terms of power and second only to Hao with almost half his Furyoku level for literally no reason at all, while the dude trained almost a millennium in hell.
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>>142294777
I actually did like the end very much as well, defeating Hao would have been a cheap at that point, it was quite refreshing for the Bad guy to win.

Also, that Spirit Train was cheesy as fuck, yet it managed to get me a little teary eyed
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>>142294867
>he was sucking her non-existent dick way too much
Of course he would. Everyone in SK, icnluding the writer, is Anna's bitch.
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>>142294803
This guy?

He had pretty cool fight against Yoh and died
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>>142294867
I get what you mean, but her personality makes her backstory and anytime she's vulnerable more impactful
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>>142294407

We know Hao and YVS.

The big guy could be Zeus maybe, to the left something egyptian. It seems that the guy to the right of Hao has a crown of thorns so Jesus maybe.
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>>142295009
he was my favorite patch, I loved that his over soul was just a lightsaber
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>>142294434
Ryu, fucker was too damn based.
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>>142294867
Osorezan was one of Shaman King's best storylines and it's a shame it will never be adapted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PTOcdmapoA
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>>142294434
Horohoro. Loved his ice powers and design
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I still don't understand why Hao choose S.o.F.
S.o.F is not the strongest of Five Grand Elemental Spirits isn't it?
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>>142295243
To him it was irrelevant.
With his transfiguration secret omnyouji (or however it's written) techniques he could transform fire into any element he wished.
I think the point of the SoF is that his medium was the oxygen in the air, something pretty overpowered when you think about it.
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>>142295243
Hao is full of rage, fire was a good fit
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>>142295243
Might have something to do with personality. The story touches on the subject but I don't remember it well.

And being an Onmyōji, Hao could alter the spirit's elemental property anyway.
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>>142295066
>Pharao Guy (3500 years ago?)
>Manlet Mohammed (1500 years ago)
>Alien, Viking, Aztec, I have no fucking clue (1000 years ago?)
>Hao (0 years ago)
>Buddha (2500 years ago?)
>Jesus (2000 years ago)
>YVS (500 years ago)
>Zeus (3000 years ago?)

I think Manta once speculates that Jesus and Buddha were Shaman Kings, so Mohammed wouldn't be too far off. But what the fuck is third from right supposed to be?
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>>142295243
Reiryoku-wise they were the same, so maybe it was just his preference or something.
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>>142293702
The only stronger member of his group has a highly unstable power that depends on solar power. And even then current Meliodas seems to use less power than he had at his prime. By the end of series he is certainly going to be the strongest.
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>>142289748
>Yusake
Anger
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>>142295433

I think it could be ordered according to age:

1. The egyptian one is the oldest.
2.Then manlet easterner (maybe something Babylonian or Assyrian?)
3. God knows what that is.
4. Zeus
5. Buddha
6. Jesus
7. YVS
8. Hao, current SK, in the center.

However that would mean that there is a 1500 years gap between Jesus and YVS but maybe the SK torunament wasn't always every 500 years.
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>>142295168
>Not posting Megumi Hayashibara
HERESY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL-W1M0A05Q
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>>142289748
Naruto - ramen powder cocaine
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>>142295881
It would make sense if the SK tournament frequency was accelerated with the rapid development of humans. The difference between 500 years ago and now is a lot bigger than 500 years ago and 2000 thousand years ago.
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>>142295881

The Shaman King from 1500 years ago is said to have killed 1/3 of the world's population According to the wiki. Maybe he himself was somehow destroyed
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Why was Anna so shit? She ruined the entire series.
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>>142296040
Northern Lights was such a great OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY78Jgl13WQ
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>>142284326
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>>142284941
anna was garbage. babby's first edge
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Flowers was complete shit and you all know it
Takei lost his touch really bad
Ultimo also sucked bad
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>>142293539
>Watch - Shaman King
>Expectation - /x/
>Got - /m/
uh, the final oversouls being giant robots was cool
Bason was the ebst with that mouth faceplate
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>>142294587
Half the cast were cute shotas.
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>>142295243
Because he's hot
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>>142284326
>gary stu mc
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>>142298506
Great Earth Spirit looks so boss.
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>>142289748
Seiya gets high as fuck off of his own Cosmo.
But the answer is Morphine, because it lets him keep getting back up
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>>142298623
>>142298592
>>142298547
>>142298506
>>142298383
best sprirt earth has best design sucks he jobs like earth element always does
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>>142298449
>yoh
>gary stu
so you're ghost stoner hitler?
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>>142297862
but he was the most faggy of them all, thus the favorite of fujos and faggots
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>>142298750
>Yoh loses like a bitch in the end
I still don't get why people like this little faggot. I read all of shaman king and enjoyed it but Yoh was a total faggot
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>>142284326
Agni of Fire Punch.
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>>142293079
Jesus. How many blowjobs does this guy performs!?
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>>142294867
>Anna
>voiced by Megumi Hayashibara
>wondering why she's the 2nd strongest and is a Mary Sue

Nigga, don't you get it? She's the reincarnation of Lina Inverse. Why wouldn't she be second place? She was second place in Slayers, right behind the Lord of Fucking Nightmares.

Be glad that she didn't steal the spot light in the main manga. Not even Nana Mizuki can will it harder than her.
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>>142298795
Yoh's lax attitude, combined with the fact that he always knew the right course of action made him less interesting than at least the other 4 elemental shotas

still great though

>>142299034
not many since flowers and those other two are also dead
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>>142296434
Somebody needs some better taste.
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>>142298670
I don't even think we got to see much of what the other spirts could do. The SoF had like a bunch of different forms throughout the series, also wasn't it able to change properties to like water or something?
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>>142299102
>Lax attituidie
Normally makes for a shit shounen MC
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>>142299115
thats every character right?
I know Takei has drawn very minor characters there, so i wonder if he has backstroies for all of them in his head
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>>142299115
>Angles look like shitty mechs
I really did not like when shaman king when full mech
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>>142299102
I think his attitude was pretty interesting.

>>142299287
They're just cars after all.
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>>142299287
it never did though, well not in the manga
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>mfw reading the omake about Hao as a child

I didn't need to feel these feels.
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>>142299348
it's not that it wasn't interesting, he was just outshined by others
>>142299384
you read the sequel to that too?
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>>142299362
all "god" class spirits looked like mechs
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>>142284326
Agreed
Best Battle Shonen MC by far
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>Nekogahara is actually a Shaman King side story about Hao's cat
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>>142299115
Well, a lot of stuff really does not look like I think it did.

I thought the Great Spirit Over Soul was golden, for one.
And I thought Kurobina was red, like the spirit of fire's usual appearance, which always made me think how weird it was for it to be called Kurobina in the first place.
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>>142299424
not shamash or the Buddhas, and the other elemental spirits only showed up at the very end
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>>142285093
>spend 1000 years to become god to kill humanity
>get bitchslapped by mom so you don't do it
>have to babysit your descendant's/bro's kid
Hao really got screwed
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>>142284992
>Wasn't it revealed at the end that he actually didn't give a shit about the human race at all or something?
Umm no? You misunderstood Yoh's character entirely

Yoh is the complete opposite of Hao
He doesn't like Humans(because he was always alienated by them because of his powers) but he doesn't want them dead like Hao

Why else would he try to prevent humanity's destruction if he hated them?

Basically Yoh is not a bitch boy like Hao
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>>142299115
those are some neat designs
why isnt Takei working as char design?
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When I was watching the anime dub as it was airing, I swear to god that there was a "next episode" preview where Hao turned his Spirit into an Earth/Wood elemental for a brief moment (green). However, it didn't show up in the episode. I remember it vividly.

Am I crazy? This was during the tournament, when he was showing off his elemental abilities (water, etc). Is it in the Japanese version? It's bothered me for years.
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>>142285324
He had the 2nd weakest furyoku out of the 5 warriors(Ren having the lowest)
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>>142295746
>by the end
clearly you havent seen how NnT has been going lately. sure melio was overpowered in the beginning but lately more and more overpowered baddies have been popping up and the only one available at the time to fight em all off is him. Sure his demon mode is overpowered but he loses his counter power when he is in demon mode. So hes more vulnerable + his little bro and fanboy estrossa been shitting bricks all over him. so him being "overpowered" doesent apply in this arc where he's depicted to be more of a jobber than goku when he died to a lazerbeam
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>>142299591
Yes, when he first lived as an Asakura he learned techniques to transmute elements from one to another.
In the manga he only uses them once, to change from fire to water, if you saw something else it was anime only, but it wasn't imposible for him.
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>>142285801
Go re-read that shit from the beginning on Batoto
Just ignore the godawful sequel(SK Flowers)...just pretend that gay shit never happened
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>>142295168
That doesn't sound like Hatsune Miku at all.
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>more shaman king threads lately
did someone hint at an anime reboot?
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>>142299591

The X-laws tried to kill him once they figured out that oxygen was the SoF's medium.

So they created some sort of barrier with him inside and threw a few granades to make all the oxygen burn, therefore leaving Hao defenseless.

However Hao was OP as fuck and just changed the SoF to use water and then rekt them.

This happened both in the anime and manga though at different times.
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>>142299662

I know it's anime-only, at least. It was when he was fighting the Angel Illuminati guys, and they were trying to figure out how to beat his Spirit by finding out his focus (whatever it's called). He then goes "you could've just asked, dumbass, it's oxygen." They then use the oxygen bomb, he switches to water and kills everyone.
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>>142287691
He trained for 1000 years(also reincarnated twice)
He defeated the 60+ lords of hell or whatever so he can control his rebirth

Staying dead(or imitating death like Yoh does at the Yomi Cave which is very dangerous) gives you more power in SK(it's sort of based on Buddhist faith)...so him staying dead for 500 years while training in Hell gave him a hell of a furyouku boost

He also stole the Spirit of Fire from the Patch
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>>142299716
then there was that satellite cannon that didn't do shit to him
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>>142299716

I know that it happens. My question is specifically about Hao turning his SoF to some type of "earth" element (green) and attacking. However, I don't remember this scene actually happening. It's Katanagatari all over again.
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>>142288152
>reincarnating thousands of times
He only reincarnated twice tho
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>>142299731
Yeah, all that is also in the manga.
What you said about turning it to earth or something was definitely anime-only, since I don't remember nothing of the sort in the manga.

He witches to water since there's no oxygen left, however he doesn't say what is the medium water uses, so it's kind of an asspull.
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>>142288189
Shit opinion
Anna was based
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>>142299828

Water vapor in the air
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REMAKE FUCKING WHEN
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>>142299784
Hao was ridiculously overpowered, I think there was never a single actual threat in the entire manga.
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Alright anons.

In a battle over who can give less fucks, who would win between Yoh or my boy here?
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>>142299884
but anon you're forgetting about LOVE
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>>142290001
>it was a song
Man...that Funbari Hill song from Faust
One of the best damn moments in the manga I always get goosebumps reading that shit
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>>142299866
But they used a grenade to absorb all the oxygen in the air.
Without oxygen there's no water of any kind either.
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>>142290207
Flowers never happened you fucking nigger
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>>142299881
Knowing the author's luck, it'll just get canned.
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>>142290280
>Intially Lyzerg seems like muh revenge edgelord #15225, so that's were the anime decided to take his character.
Not true
When the anime was made(2001/02) the plot was way beyond that shit

The change was intentional
The anime was directed by the same guy who directed FMA '03
He has a thing for Emo Garbage
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>>142299913
luffy, probably, he doesn't seem to care about the world, where Yoh and Anna leave on a journey to fix it at the end
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>>142299884
Anna might be weaker, but she's even more overpowered in comparison considering she did shit-all training compared to Hao.
She even managed to wound him and deplete his Furyoku to the point where he wanted to eat Team Hanagumi's souls.

In terms of numbers at least they might even have been able to beat him if she and the rest of Team Funbari went at him at their final Furyoku levels. Yet for some reason never did.
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>>142299946

Didn't he used the oxygen bomb, die, then the barrier was let down after he skewered him?

Also I just remembered the time when Hao skewered that X Law chick. That was pretty brutal, I think that's the first time I felt that Hao was a monster.
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>>142299913
Luffy hands down. Hes only exists to fuck shit up
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>>142290838
>We'll never know how Jeanne died either
Some bitch in Flowers apparently murdered her(probably with those gimmicky Jewish Powers or whatever)

I fucking hated that moment...there's no way that bitch would ever be able to do shit to Jeanne
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>>142293616
The plot doesn't revolve around fighting, you ignorant faggot. Read the manga before you try shitting on it. That asides..


Anons, how is Shaman King? Need another long shonen to binge reaf.
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>>142300052
Damn that's sick.
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>>142299786
Another Anon here.

From the anime the SoF turned blue for warter against the X-Laws, and yellow after consuming the Great Spirits. I don't recall it turning green and last time I saw the anime was last year.
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>>142294434
Faust
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>>142300091
Disappointing end and MC for a shounen but great crew and fights
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>>142299913
>PROPERTIES OF RUBBER AND GUM
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>>142300029
Hao was deliberately avoiding harming her, he would've killed her in seconds if he was serious
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>>142300052
>literally the coolest chug design in possibly all of fiction
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>>142300058
But he switched to water to survive the explosion, moments before it happened.
Switching to water if water uses vapor would be meaningless since the grenade would deplete all the oxygen, including all the water in the air.
It was at that point in the series in which he stopped caring that much about having actual combat rules and stuff, so he just ignored it.
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>suddenly Manta gets skinned alive

I mean, Jesus...
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>>142300021
In fact the manga does the exact opposite of the anime with him.

For example when Lyserg just got his angel he used it to save Horo Horo I think. And then Yoh asks him very seriously were was Morphine, to which he cheerly answers that she's with him since she is from his father and he would never leave her.

Compare that with the anime CRAWLING.
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>>142300075
Jeanne may have let herself be killed in some way or was caught off grad like Ren was when Peyote killed him
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>>142300023
He only really cares about his friends--and the places they live, likely. Probably the same as Yoh.

>>142300059
Yeah I really wonder sometimes if Luffy would fulfill a True Neutral route but considering he isn't solo he's probably more some other variant.
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>>142289748
Naruto - Delicious Ramen

https://m.fanfiction.net/s/5005399/1/Delicious-Ramen
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>>142292080
Flowers was shit anyways
It deserved to get canceled

>Terrible new Takei Art Style
>All the kids are horrible annoying little shits
>Alumni in particular is a failure of an Anna III
>Tamao has turned into a shitty version of Anna
>Ryu for some reason is just a lazy bum now
>Jeanne gets murdered by some bitch
>Yoh gets murdered by a fucking Helicopter(load of shit)
>Anna nowhere to be found(probably dead too)
>Lyserg,Horohoro,Chocolove etc. irrelevant
>Redseb and Seyram are evil now for some fucking reason
>New Asakura branch out of nowhere
>Pacing so goddamn for a monthly manga that made me wanna kill myself
>etc.

Just fuck this turd
It's literally Shaman King GT
I don't get why people defend it...it was garbage
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>>142300123
The ending is just rushed and the MC is great though.
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>>142300253
>Mc loses in the end
>good for a shounen manga
Nah fucker I read shounen for beat downs hype and jokes.
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>>142300091
give it a try, but try to find the viz translations up then switch to an online reader for the post-cancellation stuff since the scans out there have mixed but mostly bad quality
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>>142292869
>no magazine has picked it up yet
for good reason
that shit is garbage

and from what i've heard from patch-cafe he's basically discontinued it at this point
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>>142300238
>spends his whole life training far more than the rest
>ends up being the weakest
>and doesn't even give a fuck at that point

Actual character development.
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>>142292998
>I hope he finds a way.
I hope he fucking doesn't
Flowers was a disgrace
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>>142300240
most of that shit would've been explained as the story went on, and the characters would've gotten more exposure and development
and anna is with yoh you might know that if you weren't a speedreader
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>>142300283
How does he lose? He gets his bro to chill the fuck out and that's everything he wanted.
He was always reticent about killing Hao since he could reincarnate 500 years later with the same hate, the ending was his ideal outcome.
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>>142300240
The only redeeming feature Flowers might've had is if it had turned out that the entire thing was part of Hao's plan to make his reign last forever and fuck the remaining G8 into permanent non-existence.
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>>142300305
>Could have been the strongest if his future wife didn't resurrect him so quickly

>Still the richest of them all with a wife with a literal deity spirit

He never had anything to complain about after killing his dad
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>>142293263
>>142294163
Nah
Hao genuinely wanted to revive them he just doesn't want to admit he loves Yoh and acts like a tough shit
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>>142299513
>filename
I understood that reference
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>>142300240

>Jeanne gets murdered by some bitch
>Yoh gets murdered by a fucking Helicopter(load of shit)
>Anna nowhere to be found(probably dead too)
>Lyserg,Horohoro,Chocolove etc. irrelevant
>Redseb and Seyram are evil now for some fucking reason

All of this is unfair since it was cancelled and was barely explained.

I agree with the pacing though, it was extremely slow.
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>>142300378
He doesn't chill his bro out though his bro just plays along with him. He is just seeing what Yoh will do he even states that if Yoh fails with what he wants to show him he'll wipe out all humans without a second though. The very last chapter and last page confrim this is still a thing when they state they still have to keep on showing hao
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>>142293558
Alumni is such a trash character
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>>142300440
I don't know man that sounds like an improvement over killing every single non-shaman human being.
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>>142284326
Okay he is not quite the mc, but still, I bet this guy could have talked Hao of his shit the moment he met him
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>>142293702
He's talking about Nanatsu no Taizai you autist
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>>142300486
Stopping hao would be making him change his mind out right or beating sense into him. Making a shitty deal like that isn't a fucking win.
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>>142300486
You can't win against stubborn people. If they don't get exactly what they want, it doesn't matter about the rest.

Why would you expect people who can compromise on 4chan anyways?
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>>142300440

Hao can't wipe out the world. He's not the only Shaman King.
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>>142288396
Mel is not perfect, though.

>>142289748
Kenshin comes off as a stoner too. Why else would his eyes swirl like that?
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>>142300533
Hao never said he wanted to wipe out the world. Just the human race
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>>142293868
You're not alone m8
She annoyed me but at the same time I was so fucking turned on by her power and her arrogance I was stroking my dick before I knew it

Especially when she was showing them "mercy"...ohhh god
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>>142300533
Is that in Flowers? Wow that's retarded.
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>>142300460
this guy was fucking dope i wish he had more fights
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>author has a popularity contest
>picks to lowest ranking character for a colored cover chapter
This author really was based.
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>>142294021
>forgetting the bear arc
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>>142300597
Nigga is ugly as fuck tho
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>>142300597

His japanese jokes were a bitch to dub.
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>>142300501
They made him give a chance to humanity, which is far more than he intended at first.
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>>142294434
Yoh actually
Tho I prefer him more in the beginning when the art style was more cartoony and fun(I really hate how stale and generic the art style got later on)
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>>142300645
For a holy girl she sure is a semen demon.
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>>142300575
in flowers, if 3 of the previous shaman kings dislike the new one, they can kick him out, via a team battle tournament or something like that, we didn't get all of the details of how the battle would actually play out
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>>142300625
He was pretty badass in the cover chapter. If I could find it or a better scan I'd post it.
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>>142300645

>Ren creampied this
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>>142300575
Well, the original made it clear enough that there used to be previous Shaman Kings and that Hao's reign was only for 500 years.
Though it never even remotely implied the other Shaman Kings still existed on some level or had any remaining power and authority.

Well in Flowers it turns out that the previous 7 Shaman Kings are still around, and enough of them had complaints about how Hao was running things, so they're holding another tournament to sort this out, each team representing one of the kings.

It's shit. Shit, I tell you.
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>>142294867
I really don't like how Takei basically has stuck to one Anna since then

The original Anna from the oneshot was pretty different
So was the one from Butsu Zone
It was nice to see the character get reinvented in different ways...now Takei is just lazy
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>>142295243
He likes Fire that's why he chose that one
The grand spirits are all equal in terms for Furyoku/Reiryoku(not accounting for eating spirits to increase power level here like Hao did with SoF)
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Almost forgot best boy and girl.
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You guys like Hao but what about princess Hao?
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>>142300730
are you talking about the one from zero?
>>142300765
he really hasn't or at the very least he's trying not too, Aulimi was a little bit more vibrant and came off like she was just emulating anna as opposed to being just a carbon copy, witch she seemed to be in the initial flowers one shot, and i think her character would've been fleshed out as the story went on
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>>142300932
Would save.
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Only good thing about Flower was Anna 2.0
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>>142300735
>>142300645
>she was killed because reasons
life is unfair isnt?
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>>142300708
>>142300758

Yeah I don't know how I feel about that. Guess I'll get around to it sometime.

All I know is that to this day, I might not remember the exact contents of the manga, even the newer ending, but I do remember all the awesome songs.
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>tfw best patch girl and best overall girl only appeared in one chapter in the end

Not fair.
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>>142300882
Post Jun.
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>>142296872
This
Fucking this

In fact if you read the original Shaman King you will notice the quality gradually declining and the drawings especially becoming more and more lazy...not to mention the plot becoming absurd in the middle and so many skipped battles(we never saw Byakko Yoh vs Kurobina Hao for fuck sake)

And his art style went to absolute shit with the extra Kanzenban Chapters and never recovered(though once again it was a gradual process from the original Manga...I remember the art getting worse around chapters 100+ when they get to the patch village)
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>>142301051
>Byakko Yoh vs Kurobina Hao
why would you want to see a pointless fight?
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>>142298795
Because he was a fun chill motherfucker who didn't get mad constantly like your generic battle shonen MC #1325 you fucking faggot

He didn't lose at all
He got exactly what he wanted
He didn't want to kill Hao
It's like you completely missed the point of the story
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>>142300938
>are you talking about the one from zero?
Nah, from I think late in the tournment. Around the part when he got a new power up but was blind or something, it's been awhile since I read it though.
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>>142299102
Yoh was the best character and the biggest reason why the manga was so good

The new art style didn't do him any favors though and he started losing a bit of his comical side in the later chapters which is a shame
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>>142301021
Oh damn almost forgot about her.
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>>142299459
No it isn't
Matamune isn't in Nekogahara

It has nothing to do with SK
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>>142301192
>he started losing a bit of his comical side
I wonder why.
Perhaps his psychotic brother getting closer and closer to erradicating humanity might've played a part in that.
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>>142284326
Wow. There's a lot of Flowers hate in this thread. I can't be the only one who liked it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLl145FqQg
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>>142284326
The only none retard WSJ teen protag ever.

Too bad stupid jap kids love hot head protags.
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>>142301315

I liked it.

It had some issues but it was cancelled too early in the story.
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I can't remember who this was.
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>>142299972
Nigga I'm talking about an Anime Remake
I don't want to see Takei ever do anything with SK again after the disaster that was Flowers

Long Hair Ren is fucking gay...so is Long Hair Hippy Yoh...and Hippy Anna is fucking ugly
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>>142301394
he was that vampire nigga who used blood as his medium to possess people
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>>142301394

One of Hao's henchmen who appeared while they were travelling to the patch village. He possesed Lyserg and was killed by the X-Laws.
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>>142301149
like this? or do you mean something different
>>142301192
I don't mean to undersell Yoh's character, but because his character wasn't as expanded as much as the others he was less interesting
>>142301315
I liked flowers alot actually
>>142301394
he was Dracula's decedent with a vampire hunter ghost he joined up with hao because the Dracula family was very unpopular with the locals
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Haven't read Flowers yet... Is it Eureka 7 AO levels of shitting the original series?
And did it have any ending or did they just stop publishing it mid-arc?
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So Camel and his kids were supposed to be Jews, right?
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>>142301477

The original characters were a bit absent since the focus was on a new generation. There wasn't much shitting.

It was stopped not only mid-arc but in the middle of a battle.
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>>142301508
He literally builds a golem based on Jewish mythology to protect his children from the opressors of his people.
The fuck do you think?
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>>142299884
Yoh stated that he could legit become stronger than him if he kept training on hell if he wanted to

As cheesy as the whole message of the series is that's what Shaman King is all about and when you think about it it makes sense since Hao would just reincarnate again

Shaman King is basically about love and forgiveness
Like remember when Redseb kills Chocolove to avenge his dad and then Yoh's like "well I will murder you sister now...an eye for an eye right?"
The message is basically to forgive and forget...not be swayed on the wrong path
The whole series is about Yoh's beliefs(which are pretty much Takei's beliefs)
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>tfw the rest of ultimo never landed on the internet
I wanna read past vol 4 dammit
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>>142284326
>le chosen hippie
>based
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>>142300052
Silva was such a fucking bro I fucking swear
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>>142300123
>Disappointing end and MC for a shounen
Bullshit
If anything it's the other way around
Great MC but man does Takei get lazy with the fights and later on he just fucking skips them outright
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>>142300175
I liked Ryu better when he was a villain
He really lost some of that rugged charm when he became a white knight for his master...kinda sucks
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>>142300198
>like Ren was when Peyote killed him
Not what happened
Ren let himself be killed out of guilt for killing Chrome
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>>142301585
it's not very good, but there are some cool ideas in it
>the whole point of the battle is to win your oppents over to your side
>villians travel through time to a point before the protagonists to have a timeskip-esc training session
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>>142301682
>on he just fucking skips them outright
Ignoring the rushed ending, I think that made sense considering the setting.
Shamans link the dead with the living, exceptionally powerful ones can even resurrect the dead.
There's literally no point in fighting when everyone is in a team with at least someone that can resurrect people, this is why towards the middle point of the manga most of the "fights" consist in Yoh turning people to his philosophy.
I feel like they were constantly forcing to turn this into a battle manga when considering the setting it was kinda dumb.
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>>142300283
Yoh's goal was to save Hao and Humanity(basically considered impossible by many)
He fucking achieved it

He didn't lose shit
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>>142301743
was that it? I thought he was killed because he was distracted by guilt when Nichrom showed up
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>>142300434
The sequel was unneeded
And no way in hell can you explain Yoh getting killed by a copter...come on
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>>142301746
i just liked the designs and how gay everything about it was
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>>142284701
So he's from Texas?
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I don't approve of censorship and changing the authors' vision, but... Tecalote sounds better than Peyote and Chocolove looks better without huge lips.

There, I said it
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>>142301554
The only logical conclusion I can come to is that they're palestinians.
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>>142300501
>would be making him change his mind out right
But he did just that
Hao is just pretending to be tough shit he knows he "lost" and he knows he got saved by Yoh

Re-read the series again and this time pay attention to the whole philosphy/religious bs and shit this time around(Yoh's beliefs are basically Takei's beliefs)
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>>142301868

Everything Takei does has a slight homolust vibe for some reason.
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>>142301911
A palestinian shaman who channels the spirits of his suicide bomber allies would be tight. And he can keep getting more as they keep blowing up
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>>142301975
he defiantly has a trap fetish, and probably has a shota fetish too
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>>142301471
>like this? or do you mean something different
I think I remember him having a whole chapter to himself but I'm not sure.

>>142301477
It basically just didn't get started and ended early, if you get what I mean. While the first series had a shit ton of character development/changes and build up that stretches all that way towards the end of the series plus extra chapters, Flowers never even got to scratch the surface. Judging based on 20 or so chapters just doesn't work with this series, that's where the hate is mostly coming from.
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>>142301394
I was honestly not ready for Bondage Trevor Belmont when I was a kid.
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>>142302042
>chapter
Fuck ment cover.
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>>142300938
Alumni was a shitty Anna wannabe who utterly failed which is why her character was shit

All the new generation kids were so annoying

Hana
>Extremely Annoying Loudmouth
Alumni
>Annoying Anna-wannabe...way too violent and lacks the class Anna had
Men
>Creepy fuck and an annoying whiner
Yohane
>Forgettable
His sis
>Shit Tao Jun ripoff
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>>142302042
I'm sad that Flowers ended. Hana was actually going to get character development and the series ended.
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>>142302042
this then?
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>>142302077
so thats what Amidamaru looked like with legs. Pretty sweet design, he actually looks like a superhero or something
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>>142301107
Because it would be fun you motherfucker
The whole tournament pretty much got skipped too and everybody was just running all over the place like retards for dozens of chapters with the tournament having worthless battles like Hanagumi vs the old hags(hahaha so funny XD)
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>>142284326
Why do so many manga have an alien ending even despite it usually develing heaving in mythology?
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>>142301244
That's the thing
Yoh's character was at his best in the beginning

In fact the manga was at it's best in like the first 20 chapters or so...then it became a kind of generic battle shonen(a good one mind you but the first 3 volumes or so will always be imo the best part of SK)
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>>142302131
we never got to learn anything past the surface though, Hana defiantly would've changed, that was the point of the death zero arc
>>142302187
m8 Hao would've finished a serious fight in no time, didn't he even explain how Yoh could't beat when they slept next to each other
>>142302139
the page before this had the others in color to
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>>142296342
He was probably like a prototype Hao only more unhinged, I honestly doubt that anyone who kills 1/3 of humanity would stop at just that, some Shamans probably banded together to take him down
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>>142301471
>but because his character wasn't as expanded as much as the others
His character was just as expanded as the rest in Osorezan Revoir and various mini-arcs(like the Faust fight)

Fuck sake
He went through a lot of character development
>He realized his first human friend was Manta when he got mad for the first time in his life
>He fucked his fiancee
>His old ghost friend Matamune passed of for him to be able to save Anna
>He had the belief that "anyone who can see spirits can't be that bad" and stuck to it 'till the end despite how many atrocities he witnessed
>and so much more

Nigga went through a lot of shit
It's just his character development is more subtle then others

In the end the manga is all about him and the ending was completely influenced by him

In fact when you think about it Yoh basically reformed almost all of his friends
>Turned Ren from an edgy bastard to a good guy
>Risked his life for Ryu and Tokageroh(one of the best moments in the manga imo) despite what happened earlier
>Punched some sense into Lyserg and got him to let go of the idea of revenge
And a ton of other shit really

He's a pretty impressive character...he's just too hippy in the latter half of the manga(partly because of the art-style) which makes him feel kind of dull
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>>142301783
Takei himself said that he felt that "the manga lost originality as time went on with the introduction typical shonen cliches"

But still...
The nigga teased a lot of fights and he just of-screened which was bullshit and annoying
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>>142301814
>was that it?
Yes
When Yoh returns to the scene he makes some kind of comment(forgot what it was)...something along the lines of "Ren wanted to repay his debts" or something(it's probably wrong but you get the idea)
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how we went from this
>>142302610
to this
>>142302641 ?
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>>142302582
I still feel like we could've gotten something earlier in the timeline than Osorezan Revoir, but maybe i just like him less than the others
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>>142284376
SIEG
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>>142302042
>mfw Kishimoto ripped him off and made Kakashi
We never see his fucking face
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>>142302674
Everybody is becoming gay.
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>>142302321
>Hana would have changed
He was "changing" in the Death Zero arc
Too little too fucking late tho

>Hao would've finished
There were many other contestants m8
And Takei off-screened much of the Anna vs Hao battle and he completely off-screen Lady Sati vs Enma Daioh

>Didn't he explains how he could beat Yoh when they were asleep
And Yoh also explained that he could've trained in Hell to become stronger than him but he didn't do it in purpose
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>mfw I'll never have clothes like the ones Hiroyuki Takei draws up
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>>142302844
Shouldn't be too hard to find a white cassock and two trashcans.
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>>142302807
the Hao Anna battle was one-sided it woudl've just been Anna making small progress as Hao does nothing

the Sati stuff was clearly happening during the time that taki was told to wrap it up, so he could've shown it even if he wanted to and even then it might not be that interesting

and i really don't buy that yoh could've just become stronger than Hao, and if he did it would've been pointless since Hao would just reincarnate again
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>>142302702
>I still feel like we could've gotten something earlier in the timeline than Osorezan Revoir
Read Shaman King Zero m8
There's a oneshot about Yoh prior to those events(it's bretty gud)

Also
We knew that Yoh was lazy since he was a kid and wanted to befriend the "King of Spirits" so he can goof off

We also know that he was lonely because his dad was never at home so he stole Mikihisa's Soul Bob Records and his headphones as a sort of an act of childish rebellion...in other words those records and those headphones was the closest connection he had to his dad which is pretty sad when you think about it
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>yfw Ren has the key
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>>142302971
his zero chapter is my second favorite next to the hororo one, but it wasn't enough for me as for the headphone theft, I had to read about that on a wiki, but it's the exactly the kind of thin i would've wanted to see in some flashback chapter
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>>142302957
>and i really don't buy that yoh could've just become stronger than Hao
Yoh said it himself

>and if he did it would've been pointless since Hao would just reincarnate again
Which is the point of the whole story
Yoh didn't want to "kill him" or "spare him"...he wanted to save him

The whole battle aspect of SK is a gimmick...anyone knows this already

"The Job of a Shaman is also to save unsalvageable souls"-Yoh Asakura

The whole manga is basically a battle of beliefs and Yoh's belief triumphs in the end
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>>142303103
so then why would Yoh need to become stronger than Hao?
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>you will never be Mugen
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>>142303049
But IMO Yoh isn't a character defined by his past
He is defined by his present actions and his overall personality,beliefs and his overall achievements throughout the series

Probably my favorite chapter of the series is when he lets Tokageroh to possess him
The defines his character imo

>HoroHoro's story
That shit legit choked me up
Pirica is such a cunt in that story holy shit...so fucking annoying just go away you little shit
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>remember reading Shaman King as a teen
>never got far beyond the first few initial chapters
>Man, I remember Shaman King, I should read it now
>it's horribly depressing and the murder and cruelty count goes way up
>don't want to finish it anymore
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>>142299913
Luffy is just illogical he's still passionate about a lot of thing, I think Yoh gives less fucks overall.
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>>142303178
He doesn't
He said "I could of become stronger then him if I wanted too"
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>>142303049
Also it's worth nothing that you miss a lot of shit when you first read it that you catch when you re-read it

Like for example I originally missed the fact that Ren let himself be killed by Peyote out of guilt when I first read it and I only noticed it when I re-read it later
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>>142303257
You know you want to.
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>>142303257
>don't want to finish it anymore
Finish it
The ending is worth it(but I don't want to spoil it for you)
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>>142303229
still i think actually seeing yoh's loneliness in more detail would've been better for both the story and for Yoh's place in it
>hororo's face when he finds out damko is dead
>Hororo talking to damko even though she isn't there
my heart shattered man
>>142303290
why do you want him to then?
>>142303358
I've been through three times though I've never made a full run with viz's official releases so that might be a determent
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>>142292918
I made an account just to tell how much of muh nigga you are
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>mfw Shaman King is a Battle Manga where the message is "don't fight with each-other"
Is this the most meta manga ever created?(at least in it's genre)
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>>142303451
meant detriment
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>>142303394
But I already did and I thought it retarded.
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>>142303473
Most probably they just forced him to introduce battles.
Thats what sells.
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>don't remember shit about Shaman King
>it's been 5 years since i finished it

time for a reread
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>>142303451
But that's just it
Yoh wasn't defined by his loneliness..that's just one part of his past
Yoh's optimism was his character
That's what makes him a great character...even when all hope is gone he would be able to say "It will all be fine"
As soon as he got with Anna some of his loneliness went away(same for the other way around) and later on with Manta and the rest

Yoh is like an inverted Hao
He could have easily went wrong but he didn't

>when he pulled that jacket
omfg stop doing this to my tamashii

>Why do you want him to then?
I don't?
Re-read my post
I simply stated that Yoh could have become stronger but he didn't because he didn't want to "kill him" or "spare him" instead he wanted to "save him" by showing him love(same way he saved Anna and a bunch of other people)

>Viz
Don't bother
They're trash translations and extremely censored
They use dub names too..it's just awful

But my point was that it's a fucking 300 chapter manga so it's not easy to remember all the details
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>>142303664
>It's 300 chapters

I must be going senile because I don't remember there being that many chapters.
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>>142303597
>Most probably they just forced him to introduce battles.
Nah he planned that shit from the beginning but it probably would have been way different then it got to be originally

I think his general concept was to show fights and then say "they're bad...don't do it...be friends instead"...you get the gist
But he definitely got told to make his series more of a cliche battle shonen that's for sure

In fact if it wasn't it might have failed like Butsu Zone did
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>>142303664
>>142303740
Make sure to read it on Batoto
It has the best overall scans and has HQ versions of many of the volumes which previously only had Low Quality scans
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>>142294434
Ryu for me. It was interesting seeing him develop as a character. Was pretty happy when him and Faust were Yoh's teammates in the tournament. Had this action figure as a kid and had his card from the trading card game too.
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>>142303695
I still disagree, but it's possible i just like Yoh less than the other since i find them much more relatable,someone was compiling about not seeing kurobina vs byakko i thought i was responding to him
>>142303740
it was brought back form cancellation something like 17 chapters were added two to fill out a skipped fight and the last 15 to wrap up the series properly
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>397 / 81 / 104 / 1
>A SK discussion that has more than 50 replies.
This is a sign, lads.
Flowers is coming back
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>>142303975
but its a "Based MCs"thread anon
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>>142303975
>It wasn't even intended as a SK thread
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>>142303975
>re-read DGM shortly before announcement of return was made
>think about HxH before return
>tfw I re-read Sk and Flowers in some premitive hope to trigger meme magic
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>>142303893
Man he had so many changes throughout the series. I started off not giving a shit about him to fucking loving him. Wish more shounen authors wrote more side characters like him.
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>>142304022
>Yoh so based he turns an MC thread into a SK one
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>>142304057
LET'S DO IT GUYS

TIME FOR SOME MEME MAGIC
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>>142287691
literally grinding.
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>>142304073
if anything we were talking about how great yet rushed in the end SK was, Flowers a shit

>>142304057
>mememagic activates and bring us Shaman King Brotherhood
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Knew I saved this for a reason. I remember a while back someone posted a recommended reading for SK scanlations as an alternative to Viz.

Yes go read the manga

Here's a guide on how you should read it

1.read ch1-263 http://bato.to/read/_/51976/shaman-king_v1_ch1_by_mangaproject

2.read http://bato.to/read/_/66702/shaman-king_v30_ch264_by_mankin-trad

3.read this http://bato.to/read/_/112419/shaman-king_v30_ch264a_by_mankin-trad and this http://bato.to/read/_/112420/shaman-king_v30_ch264b_by_mankin-trad

4.read this http://www.mangahere.co/manga/shaman_king/vX/c006/

and

5.continue from here 'till the end http://bato.to/read/_/66703/shaman-king_v30_ch265_by_mankin-trad

Never used this myself but if this is still valid have fun.
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>>142304164
thanks I was looking for this at the archive
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>>142303912
Whether you agree or not that's what Yoh said...he said that he could've trained in hell to become stronger and considering his personality I don't think he would lie

Ha...well maybe that has a bit to do with it
I found Yoh very relatable since I'm pretty damn lazy myself lol

I also shared a lot of his beliefs/morals and I respect his character for sticking to his guts through thick and thin(literally considering how much shit happens in the manga causing his resolve to shake at times but he never lets it shatter and in the end he overcomes all odds)
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>>142304164
I have my old Viz volumes from when I was a teenager still. First 10 or so volumes make reference to the changes made by 4Kids in the characters section.
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>>142304058
Re-reading the manga recently I honestly preferred him in the early chapters when he was an asshole with all his bros and shit to when he becomes literally a butler for Anna

"The housing situation in Tokyo couldn't have been that bad if they were putting up graves for nobodies like this"
God fucking dammit that shit always leaves me in stitches
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>>142304073
After an endless wave of retard or whiny MC's, Yoh was definitly a breath of fresh air. I mean who can power up and still look this chill?
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>>142301394
>Forgetting the best joke in the series
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>>142304136
If /pol/ can elect Trump I think we should be able to conjure a new shaman king adaptation.
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>>142304222
>Whether you agree or not that's what Yoh said...he said that he could've trained in hell to become stronger and considering his personality I don't think he would lie

Not him but just because Yoh isn't lying doesn't mean he's right. He could just be underestimating Hao.

For every bit Yoh trains, there's no reason to think Hao couldn't do the same or accumulate power the same way.

Like look at the original manga, when did Yoh have time to train enough to surpass Hao? Pretty much never. At the end, Hao has the best spirit which amplifies his already godly power to even greater heights.

I don't know about Flowers, but unless they retconned how powerful Hao is when he becomes Shaman King the guy should be able to roll over Yoh so long as he's the king, and having that advantage would allow him to get stronger faster than anyone if he so wished it.
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>>142304318
I don't follow that shit but who's winning? Or did it finish already?
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>>142304136
>Flowers a shit
This
It's literally Shaman King Super
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>>142304222
what i'm saying is that we should've had a few more flashbacks regarding yoh

I personally see Yoh as what an idea person is
he's accepting of all kinds of different ideologies and lifestyles, he's rarely angry and never acts in spite or for pure revenge, he forgives and trusts people easily too just a really great guy
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>>142304164
>>142304194
I posted that one
Ignore that shit it's outdated
All the shit is now basically on Batoto(including Hao's oneshot) and it has various HQ versions of volumes and HQ Versions of chapters

Also
Shaman King Zero(series of one shots is uploaded here)
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/shaman-king-zero-r3810

For Shaman King Remix whatever(they're basically a bunch of bonus shit) go here and download
http://mankin-trad.net/shaman-king/remix-track/

>>142304255
Viz is fucking worthless
It's censored beyond belief and the translations aren't the greatest
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>>142304370
As far as I know it's between Cliton and Trump, Bernie is all but out.
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>>142304550
Forgot
Just be careful to read the 264a and b between 264 and 265 since they're not ordered properly and you can easily miss them
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>>142289599
AYYOO HOL UP. SO U SAYINGZ WE WUZ VOODOO SPIRITZ AND SHIIIEEEETTT?????
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>>142304321
I doubt he's underestimating him
Yoh is not dumb
And he could have become stronger to kill before he becomes God...last time Hao was killed by Yohken and Matamune and he had Spirit of Fire with him at that point

>>142304399
Well that could go for anything really
Many characters could have been more detailed but the manga would have been too long

But regardless I think Yoh was specifically written to be more of a character of the present than of the past

Yoh differs from the rest of his group in that Yoh has already made peace with himself before the story began...while the point of Ren,Lyserg,Horohoro,Ryu,Faust,Chocolove is that they're trying to make peace with themselves throughout the series and Yoh acts as an aid for them
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So did shaman king ever get a proper ending?

>>142292803
>>142292833
>>142292998
>>142292869
Wait what, the fuck is this?
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>>142304864
yes it even got a sequel
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>>142304814
Is there any legitimacy to this meme, do african americans really believe that for example beethoven was black? Or is this just forced /pol/ retoric?
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>>142304864
>So did shaman king ever get a proper ending?
Yes in 2009 with the Kazenban where have you been?
go read that shit on batoto now

>what is this
ignore it
it's a dumb ass sequel about yoh's faggot son
it's completely garbage just pretend it never happened and don't bother with it
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>>142304864
Most of the protagonists have kids and there's a sequel.
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>>142304910
>>142304937
What, really?

Man i'm out of the loop, please fill me in, so is that remix or zero as mentioned here >>142304550 ?

>>142304921
Does bato.to have the best scans? Is there a color version of the manga, I know a lot of old series's have gotten them

>tfw I can't find any high res scans/digital manga rips of DBZ color past the intial vegeta fight

>>142304915
Some SJW black pride ones do, but they are even more of a minority then typical SJW's
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>>142304921
>>142304965
Oh, also, does the group that provided the scans to bato have a torrent for me to download them directly? I like to save stuff locally and it avoids any additional compression the sites apply
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>>142304965
>Is there a color version of the manga
no
>does batoto have the best scnas
yes
>so is that remix or zero as mentioned here
remix is extra zero is a series of prequels flowers is the sequel, zero is wroth the read but anything past chapter 5 requires you read flowers
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>>142304965
>Does bato.to have the best scans?
Yes read these
>>142304550
>>142304621

Also
Zero is a series of one shots about the original characters
Remix Tracks is just a bunch of goofy fun bonus stuff after the release of the Kanzenban(it's bretty fun)

Flowers is a shit sequel...JUST DON'T BOTHER WITH IT'S FUCKING SHIT
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>>142305046
Pretty sure you can download from Batoto directly
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My only experience with Shaman King was the fucking 4kids dub when I was younger. Thanks to this thread, I'm downloading it subbed..
Is the anime as awful as I remember from the dub?
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>>142305053
>anything past chapter 5 requires you read flowers
no it doesn't
has nothing to do with flowers
there's some oneshots about the butsu zone characters though which if you haven't read butsu zone it can be confusing
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>>142305106
hao's chapter opens with him as god and he mentions hana
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>>142304844
>I doubt he's underestimating him
>Yoh is not dumb

You don't have to underestimate someone because you're dumb. You can underestimate someone because you lack knowledge.

I can say without a shadow of a doubt that you are not a rocket scientist, and no matter how much you claim you know rocket science you wouldn't be able to get a space ship to the moon.

Does that make you dumb? No. But if you dare claim you could make a space ship and get it to Mars I'd laugh my ass off either way.

Your theory about Yoh killing Hao only works if Yoh had time. Hao is stronger than before naturally and everything was moving at break neck pacing. There's no time to get truly strong. By the time Yoh gets strong enough to beat the Hao on that page, Hao would already be Shaman King. What then? You gonna tell me Yoh can beat the mother fucking Shaman King with less than a year's worth of training? Are you shitting me?

Power levels don't exist within a vacuum. This isn't some old school RPG where the boss just waits for you sitting there on his throne for eternity until you finally make it to his room.
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>>142305046
Look into this
http://redsquirrel87.com/Batoto.php?ckattempt=1
You can download them directly from Batoto with this(there's no compression on Batoto)

There was a lot of groups which scanned it which are mostly defunct now
And the last one(Mankin-Trad) took their old scans down from their website cuz they're one of those oldschool "support the official release" groups(which...just don't since Viz only did the original version with the rushed ending and they did a horrible job with it)
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>>142305209
Great fucking to release the KZB stateside, to bad the won't
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>>142305183
But he had all the time in the world in Hell which is why the theory works
Since it was like mere minutes in the real world while Yoh and the others spent months training in hell
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>>142305277
It would be worthless anyways since Viz would just still censor the shit out of it and their translations are always literal memes

Times like these I wish I knew moon so I would just import the Nip Version
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Tfw morty becomes a shaman
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>>142305102
read the magma, faggot.
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>>142305183
>This isn't some old school RPG
Also this is funny considering with all the reviving bullshit that went on many times to me it felts like an oldschool turn-based RPG lol(especially in the final stretch of the manga when they were fighting the Patch...it felt like a hardcore Dungeon Crawler where you have limited mana and the life spell costs too much to use)
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>>142305329
He still wouldn't make it in time, it's not like he's a genius like Anna in fact he's pretty much one of the shitters among the spirit rangers. Hao spent insane amounts of time in hell as well, why would Yoh suddenly have faster leveling speed than when Hao did it?

To begin with, Yoh was never the smart one. That was Anna. Anna makes all the plans, the back up plans, everything. Yoh just goes along with it and deals with people.
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>>142305408
>morty
please go get eaten by a the spirit of fire
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>>142305102
Anime is ok(pretty fun) but it's terrible compared to the Manga

I would suggest heading over to Batoto and reading the Manga first and check out the Anime when you're bored or something later
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I'll be honest I enjoyed the manga more when the spirits didn't turn into weapons 50 times bigger than their wielder

at that point it just turned into a hitting contest and who has the stronger gimmick, I thought they'd bring it back around when yoh talked about condensing his weapon but then BAM straight back to huge ass mechs
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>>142305420
The Patch part was sure, but Hao himself wasn't. Since when the fuck did an old school game contain a boss you had to chase after, that was already stronger than you by like a 100x or so, but even then had minions to cock block you from chasing him and then if you took too long it was game over?

I mean maybe Star Fox but I don't know.
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>>142305454
Sorry, I experienced the series through the inferior form

still a hype as fuck moment, was it even done in the manga?
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>>142299115
Is that giant headless mecha in the middle supposed to be "god"?
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>>142305442
Yoh was pretty smart...you're not giving him enough credit
Look at his battle with Ren for example or his battle with HoroHoro...he was goofy but he was far from dumb

Hao spent an insane amount of time(500 years to be exact) before too but he still got killed by Yohken/Matamune
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>>142305550
nope
the manga has a long stretch of no manta to
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>>142305522
You haven't played Chrono Trigger have you?
Because that literally was Lavos
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>>142305569
sucks, I really enjoyed the idea of morty hanging around shamans so long and getting possessed all day everyday that he got some abilities of his own

even established it beforehand with how ryu got his
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>>142305550
It wasn't in the manga
My point was you used the awful dub name(the dub was awful as all 4kids dubs are)
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>>142305522
Also...ffs
Have you never played an old Sonic Game

Robotnik fights you in every zone personally and sends his minions(badniks or mini-bosses) to fuck you over
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>>142305610
back then I didn't really have enough experience to differentiate shitty dubs, morty as a name just stuck around
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>>142305603
>Morty
His name is Manta
Screw that 4kids horseshit
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>>142305677
Come on
Everybody knew 4kids was shit
They were extremely infamous
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>>142305712
As a kid you don't really pay as much attention to the reputation of the people who make dubs

you just watch that shit when it comes on TV
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>>142305586
That was one of the few I haven't.

>>142305661
Doesn't count, Robotnik never gets stronger. He just sends shitty robots that you steam roll like nothing. Even at the end in most Sonic games you don't need a single upgrade like gold form or whatever to beat the shit out of him at the end.

Robotnik is your bitch, not the other way around.
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>>142305822
What about Kefka in Final Fantasy VI?
He keeps getting stronger throughout the game
Come on....it's such a fucking recurring trope in vidya

Umm he fucking builds a Space Station(a literal ripoff of the Death Star at that) and at one point he completely fucks the future(Sonic CD)
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>>142305563
That's nowhere near smart enough to make him Anna level, which is what's needed to take on Hao.

You're basically saying "This guy isn't stupid he got 100/100 in grade school" when I'm talking about getting a PhD.

Hao basically did everyone alone after a certain point. He only had himself to rely on. Yoh's basically carried by Anna through and through and looked over by his father not to mention his friends contributing.

A person who is able to gain knowledge and power by themselves independently will surely grow faster than a guy who relies on others but is then thrust into a situation where he needs to carry most of the burden.

The only thing Yoh has going for him is that he knows he's a lazy chill fuck and he knows how to get what he wants, which is let others do the thinking for him. Does he have the capacity to be smart? Sure. But he's not a genius, and never will be. He can't even be the strongest among his own team, what insane logic do you have that he can surpass Hao in training speed?

The thing is this time Hao has the Spirit of Fire. It's different from before, and his power has grown. A guy who exponentially got stronger after every death who required an entire clan to take him down every time or more, is somehow gonna lose to 5 kids who train a mere portion of the time he did in hell? How does that work?
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>>142284326
le weed man
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>>142305926
But Kefka was a pussy. Relatively speaking. With Kefka it was actually more like a space race or some shit, was he stronger? Probably yeah. But I don't think it was impossible.

Vidya usually make guys that follow this pattern into opponents that you know, aren't fucking invincible. Cause there's no point in making a guy get stronger if he's already capable of steam rolling you ya know?
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>>142305947
>That's nowhere near smart enough to make him Anna level
Nowhere did I say that

Anna is overrated as fuck anyways at one point she was about to kill Tokageroh before Yoh stopped her dumb ass

Yoh gave more to them then they did to Yoh
All of them were a broken mess before Yoh reached their hand to them
It's kind of like Hao who also was kind but only difference is that he went on the wrong path and his friends betrayed him

Have you even read the damn series?
The whole point of the series is that somebody who has friends is stronger than somebody whose alone...this is a consistent message throughout the series

Yoh is smart but that's not his defining characteristic and it's not made very obvious

Yoh actually makes the decisions most of the time and there's a reason even Ren acknowledged him as the leader

Yeah
And Hao was also stronger 500 years ago then he was 1000 years ago when he first got killed by the Asakura Family yet Yohken was still able to kill him so I don't see why Yoh couldn't
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>>142286199
Do tell.
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>>142294867
And could someone answer me WHY Anna was so badass or why everyone and Hao was her bitch?
I don't get why so much respect for her.
Maybe I should learn to read again, but nevermind that.
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>>142306032
>aren't fucking invincible.
I don't know
Robotnik survived multiple Death Egg Crashes from fucking vacuum I'd say he's basically invincible

I mean when you think about it's not that different
If you kill Hao he just revives 500 years later or some shit which is not too different from Robotnik or Dr.Wily returning each game
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>>142306326
Anna slapped him and kicked him in the balls
Anna reminds Hao of his mum too

But really Hao ain't her bitch or anyone's bitch he just pretends to be like he's tough shit but in reality he loves Yoh and Anna...if he didn't he could kill them if he wanted

The whole "Hao is Anna's bitch" is a meme even in the manga itself
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Did anybody liked the midget in SK?
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>>142300240
The MC is so fucking unlikable
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>itt twink mcs
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>>142284326
Thanks OP, got me some nostalgia. SK is fucking based.
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While SK itself was really good,some of it's themes were kinda stupid.Or rather,uncomfortable.Which is actually a sign of an interesting story,to deal with uncomfortable things.

Like the "Shamans are always good people,fuck normies" bit.
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>>142306746
He was tolerable.
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>>142300052
>that fucking totem canon
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>>142301564
Gaddamn yoh
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>>142302887
>canadian qt
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>>142298796
>Agni of Fire Punch.
Fuck that dude has it rough.
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>SK thread
>No mention of best dad

Well, I'm happy there are so many Ryu bros at least.
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>>142308286
I remember the mom being pretty hot
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Who is this Fura Yabisu a.k.a. YVS exactly?

I'm very intrigued.

Is he the founding father of Illuminati or some shit?
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>>142308286
Didn't he got run over by a truck and died like a bitch?
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Anyone hear anything about the author?

He's been really quiet lately.
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>>142308785
Read the thread, you lazy fuck.

Currently he is making Nekogahara and possibly two other projects.
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Not sure if he counts as the MC but he's pretty based
Also updates never.
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>>142308286
Well, he kinda neglected his own son but was a good father for the jewish brats.

Still pretty cool, but he wasn't too good of a father to his actual kids
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>>142308546

He was created by some Illuminati tier organization. He's responsible for the current capitalist globalized world and the one who opposes Hao the most out of the old SKs.
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>>142302717
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I really enjoyed the Master of Spirits games on the GBA.
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if koto isn't the most based mc then idk what to tell you
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>>142311723
Ryuko is better
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Fucking hilarious
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>>142314452
I remember in the flashback arc some random dudes playing fucking beyblade in the background
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>>142308743
yeah, like a year later after the story ended
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>>142294104
>>142294303
The last episodes aired during an halloween marathon on fox kid fr, i taped it and it was in the good order, you guys just had to be there when it aired first, punished for not being core fan watching fucking rediffusion.

The anime was shit anyway, why the fuck would they change Hao for Zekke at some point out of nowhere.
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>>142289013
>>142289370
I watched the anime and the main girl were by far the worst thing about it. They're like the new Kirito and Asuna.
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