Ka$hiswagi will never be your nee-san.
>>142175736
>>142175736
Do you seriously think there's enough interest for this thread to last?
Two months later and I'm still angry
>>142177645
Angry about what, that Theo had the balls to do what had to be done?
>>142178317
No. Just the whole depressing situation.
>>142178431
Yeah, Axmann and his stasi cunt girlfriend really messed Lise up.
>>142178671
I'm pretty sure not even in the anime did Beatrix have a direct hand in Lise's "conversion", but she was sure happy to use her as a disposable tool after she was already broken. Watanabe really left no trace of humanity or redeeming values in her character.
I want to beat up Beatrix!
>>142179592
>>142179670
Imagine how cool it would feel to reduce someone as badass as Beatrix to a beaten up mess lying on the floor and sobbing
>>142179883
>implying I would beat her physically
>implying I wouldn't do it psychologically, tear down all her motivations and plans
>implying I wouldn't be cuddling and shushing her tears afterwards before molding her into exactly what I want
>implying she wouldn't be mine forever afterwards
>>142179883
You mean like Theo did?
>>142179983
Axmann pls go
>>142175736
Is it bad that I get the biggest boner for her in Alternative?
>>142180103
Lise is for comforting and healing
>>142180103
>implying I'd mold her into anything but my devoted concubine, cuddle-toy, and mother of my children
>>142180201
>>142180201
Yes, but Beatrix is for bruising, bloodying, beating, bashing, and bullying!
>>142180547
>Beatrix acts smug around you
>gets knocked down with a powerful punch
>>142180547
>>142180608
moderate rebel plz go
also
>implying psychologically destroying and rebuilding her into a perfect, devoted lover/housewife isn't more satisfying
>>142180547
If its for the greater good then maybe tying Beatrix up to stop her, followed by reconstructive therapy. Only apply the 5 b's in extreme cases and if no other way.
>>142180666
I'd rather beat her until she's terrified of me.
>>142180666
>666
Since when has the 666th supported anything but penetrating Beatrix?
I want to tell Katia the scariest BETA bedtime stories I can think of and describe the most gruesome parts as detailed as possible, then wish her goodnight and leave her all alone.
>>142181003
Too late the nightmares are already real.
Suzy is for rape.
>>142176921
What's the significance of the double ahoge. I noticed Katia's started looking a lot like Beatrix's in the epilogue.
>>142180666
>that opinion
>those digits
Anyone got the tracknames for the mini-Ost that came out with the 3rd BD?
I want to beat Lise in a brutalticklefight.
>>142182354
Holy shit those hips, those tits, those thickstasithighs
I want to be like Axmann. He's my hero.
Headpat or corrupt?
>>142182402
Go for the knee.
>>142176324
sauce
Why is a mod baleeting out threads?
Is it one of the new jannies?
>>142176921
I don't like this
It's like she lost all her charm.
>>142181508
You have seen the trth,
>>142182354
Hey, where'd you get this?
Lise looks quite unhappy here.
She's not wearing her Stasi suit, so what gives? What in the 666th upset her? Theo looking at Iristits?
>tfw no Yugoslavia thread
>>142185802
*VN. Although a Yugoslavia Thread would be good too.
>>142181508
Katia and Lise are both better without their silly ribbons
Posting best girl
>>142185802
>Bad Yugoslavia Muvluv
-YUGOSLAVIA STRONG WE BEAT BATER
-TITO BEST LEEDER NO MISTAEK hehehe
-Literally best country
>Good Yugoslavia VN
- Having to choose between swallowing your pride to save your people or showing defiance and refusing help from either NATO or the Warsaw Pact.
- Genuinely agonizing over how your choices meant that people died, even taking your time meant people dying.
- Galvanizing your people by outwardly refusing to live in the safety of the capital and living close to the frontlines in the spartan conditions of the army.
- Forced to make moral choices and questionable means to ensure that everyone is safe, only to see it all go down because Muvluv reasons
- Likeable characters, both brave and cowardly, allied and against Tito, all acting in proper ways with good conviction that makes it hard to hate in the end.
Don't disappoint me, Yugoslaviafag.
>>142176921
We just need to spur the conversations beyond mindless obsessing.
On that note, I know Strike Horizon is another game coming up, but I can't help but wonder. What details do we have so far? Can I assemble my Dead Slavs dream team?
Stop fapping to dead slavs.
>>142186078
What's wrong with her
>tfw all those newfriends in july flooding these threads when they get muv luv from steam
>>142186498
>implying that didn't already happen during SchwarzesMarken and Total Eclipse anime airing and when first full fantranslations of the original VNs finished
Why is Sumika so shit? Is being shit in her case nature or nurture?
>>142187021
Does it matter? She'll always be a case of love it or hate it.I know you guys will say "nah she's just shit
One half of me wants to treat teenage Beatrix like a princess and protect her from the evils of the world. The other makes me want to put her through non-stop bullying just to see her pout and get angry.
>>142185738
>Hey, where'd you get this?
New OST. That's why I'm asking if anyone knows the Track names.
>>142187341
Wait, a new OST? What you mean? The part 2 was posted a good while ago.
>>142187239
Welcome to the world of Beatrix. The desire to molest and protect intermingle. Along with bullying and cuddling.
It's like her - duality.
>>142187469
Part three came out with the BD last weekend.
It has a bunch of tracks that didn't make it to the Anime, as they were for the SoL scenes in the VN.
>>142186385
>you mad?
My girl, don't lie to me. Where did you sleep last night?
>wake up
>Gretel is not real
>>142188767
>Wake up
>Gretel is not in your rape dungeon, crying like a little girl
>>142189177
Master pls go
Sumika is a slug.
>>142189369
Apologize to Slugkind!
>>142187538
Oh I see. Any link to it yet? I know some kind anon ripped the previous two parts for us.
>>142188767
At least one silver lining, thank goodness.
Does anyone know where to find more of the TSFiA stories translated? I only know the ones from said Wiki.
I want to know more about the world.
Happy Memorial Day to the fallen waifus, and the badasses who're still serving. We salute you.
ORDER, ARMS.
>>142190106
Too bad the one doing the summaries in the wiki drop dead like most of the ones
>>142190027
It got uploaded on hikarinoakariost but its not the same quality rip that the previous two had.
I'm more curious about the changes they made to episodes 5 & 6 though.
>>142175736
I just play Alternative last week and currently on Sadogashima arc AND SHE'S FUCKING DEAD
Holy shit fuck you guys
>>142186498
>mfw all the butthurt newfriends
>>142190401
We warned you that the ride was wild, but you just didn't want to listen.
>>142190440
I've heard about it, but everything just went absolutely wrong to the way that I don't even expecting
>>142190548
And the ride will continue to get wilder.
Good luck.
>>142175736
>tfw playing her maniax
>expecting a lot of her
>get his siscon brother who is an NTR fag and a brocon qt
At least the whole last part of the maniax got incredibly cute
>>142190249
>>142190590
I'm just still on the surface right? I fucking knew it
>>142190407
>>142186873
>>142186498
I still haven't played ml yet. Heck, i still haven't played hollow ataraxia yet despite the disk being loaded in a virtual drive on my computer. I have motivation problems.
Also yes having a stream release dangled just out of reach affects things.
>>142190249
>>142190701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn_iz8z2AGw
Better get some tissues, boys.
>>142182679
She corrupts herself.
The mere fact you want to headpat her already means you fell for her corruption.
>>142191050
>that one scene in TDA where it actually plays
I don't know whether to call these bitch tears or manly tears.
>>142184017
If I rubbed her mole, would she cry?
>>142179670
Was this photoshopped? I don't recall the VN scene in question having her look like that.
>>142191824
It is. But we could get the real deal in Martyrs.
>>142191434
>that one scene in TDA where it actually plays
Pretty good scene, having all the fallen ones being honored was pretty touching, since they thought it was all finally over.but as usual they have to fuck up your feelings with the 911 alert
Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unrtTjTujgM
>>142192068
>be Rank
>fail miserably
>>142192194
>BTFO some FFL and a Twin Huey
>fail
Which is the most BETA happymurdering girl in Mabu Rabu?
Prafka grills is unfair, since it's not a natural condition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Qp4kSpXxI
>>142192342
Probably a tossup between Yui or Latrova, they both called BETA inferior life forms/lesser creatures.
>>142191434
Both ;_;
>>142192342
Luna because gore covered TSFs turn her on, and thus the precondition for gore covered TSFs is included.
PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
>>142191434
Having served in the military, I can honestly tell you it's manly tears. Taps is the only piece of music that has ever made me cry just by hearing it, and not even really because of the song itself, but just because of what it represents. It's unspeakable sorrow wrapped up with deep, profound love. Ain't nothing bitch about shedding tears for your fallen brothers and sisters.
>>142192269
Well,that's good job for 15pts infantry squad, but damn, they failed in comparison to other guys
who /sumika/ here?
>>142193102
Bully the cockroach.
>>142182354
Maybe it's just me, but I feel Lise has much meatier hips and thighs in this picture than normal. Not sure.
>>142193102
>>142193165
WHAT THE FUCK SUMIKA
NO
NO
NO
WHAT THE FUCK
WHAT THE FUCK
THIS IS EVEN WORSE THAN MARIMO
HOLY FUCK
>>142193485
It's delicious.
>>142193485
We warned you, we fucking warned you!
>>142193485
We warned you.
I want to take Katia in a lonely place no one can find us and shoot me, dress in a Soldier-class Halloween costume and chase her around.
>>142193729
Of all the "I want to X" posts this is by far the funniest yet.
>>142193729
>live in ex-soldiers neighborhood
>make some kids dress as soldier class
>enjoy mass-PTSD and panic
Can I apply for Stasi now?
Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart
posting best girls.
>>142195093
Posting
>>142195093
>>142195093
>>142195168
>>142195172
>>142194306
We are back to business as usual I see.
>>142195245
I think too many of us have shit to do on the weekends. It's definitely a Monday to Thursday crowd.
>>142195655
Besides weekend threads where shit and deleted by mods
>>142195821
That one mod also savaged a lot of other threads as well.
>>142195821
Those were kind of painful to see, the mods were acting out of mercy.
Also, so I'm not too meta, Lise is a treasure who deserves to be loved, protected, and cherished, not blown apart or shot in the face.
>>142192565
Don't you mean USSR and the scrubs?
>>142191824
You just have to choose the right responses.
>>142196627
You mean the civilized world and Russia?
So, I'm into 5 episodes of TE and it's not so badyet
>>142197363
The first episodes of TE are a masterpiece and then it's very not. Yui suffering is pretty delicious and even the rest of the show can't take that away from the introductory arc.
>>142197569
There was an idea floated around in a thread the other day about a mercenary force comprised of displaced veterans and battered 2nd generation TSFs doing ops for hire which strikes me as a really good idea for a quasi-TE story that isn't shit. Instead we got... that.
So any major changes in SM BD 3?
>>142197729
TE could have been fine if they carved out the fanservice, honestly. By which i mean, the Arc where they went to the Caribbean for no reason whatsoever. It would be funny if they had the bikini episodes in the yukon, either getting eaten alive by mosquitos, freezing half to death or just inside a converyed hangar, but stuff like that destroyed the sense of desperation and urgency it should have had.
Slap Irisdina for being shit.
>>142198204
SM could have used slightly more fanservice, TE way less.
>>142198284
I think both would have happened if they followed more source material.
>>142198382
There would be a pool episode then.
>>142198228
Irisdina being shit is a direct consequence of Jurgen being the only person she's ever truly relied on.
Jurgen even if inadvertently caused most of the events in SM.
>>142198563
Jurgen just wanted to bone his waifu. Iris was the one who got closer to the stasi because she was lonely.
>>142198538
You wouldn't even need the pool episode. Shit like pic related was fanservicey enough.
>>142185738
She looks depressed/worried in most of the covers and promotional material she's in.
On a brighter note, imouto picnic complete with Katia bullying
https://u.pomf.is/jhfehi.mp4
>>142198563
>>142198671
If Abel and Mercedes and Axmann had all died in an unfortunate traffic accident everyone would have been happy and healthy until they were ripped apart by the beta
>>142198959
why is beato so smaug on frontcover?
>>142198967
Abel was an extremely shitty father, but you read some of the stuff about him and his politics don't seem so bad. He knew that communism was bad, and that the West was dominating them before the BETA came in and made everything worse. He was one of the guys who headed up the Berlin Faction, and wanted closer ties to the West. If anything, except for being an authoritarian, Jurgen found himself agreeing with a lot of Abel's points.
>>142182354
Sadly the BDs don't come with a tracklist for the OSTs,
>>142198959
Lise is too moe in the VN.
>>142199059
Because she's always smug. She's also in the typical evil overlord position on the cover, make of that what you will.
>>142199170
she hassecret routeposition
>>142199059
>>142199170
She's smug because she is above all other girls, as she should be in the natural order of things.
>>142199238
Have faith on that
Gretel is for disarming and pistol-whipping.
>>142199295
Suzy pls go
>>142198959
They forgot to slap her badass Werewolf patch on her pauldron.
>>142199295
Gretel is for practicing Krav Maga on.
>>142182354
I make up the names when I rip the OST keeping in spirit with that anon who made the partial SM OST from when the VN came out
In reality there are no track names aside from the 哀しみが時代を駆ける (whoever) ver.
Speaking of which, my copy of the BD arrives later today so expect the MP3 & FLAC rips in the evening
>>142199542
Well good to know. Tell of us the changes made to the episodes as well.
>>142195168
they look like third-wave feminist to me.
Homu a shit!
Do people not realize that a BD rip with the soundtrack is already out?
>>142199678
nobody cares. we are just here to shitpost.
>>142199614
If she will point that finger at me again, I will boop her nose or pinch those cheeks.
>>142199678
I got shit internet and can't torrent, otherwise I wouldn't ask.
>>142199614
They have natural hair colors and their upper lips arent involuntarily curled. They also weigh half as much together as their third wave versions would weigh individually.
Also Annett actually does have PTSD instead of faking it for attention.
>>142199614
>feminists
>long hairinb4 Gretel's look in the hospital
>>142199764
And Gretel been an actual communist would despise the SJW as bourgeois shits
>You want equality?
>Good now you are part of the NVA and you are bound to serve on the frontlines
>>142200129
Well the BETA are all for equal opportunity action.
How hard should you bitchslap Irisdina to make her less shit?
>>142200157
Indeed.
Axmann is a hero who knows how to treat girls right.
>>142200202
Enough to not post about it more than once on /a/ per thread.
How come Lise looks like a kid pulling an innocent prank even when she makes an evil face?
>>142200483
She is just a kid, and her personal experiences gave her brain problems.
>>142200260
>you will never be a soldier class
>you will never CHOMP on cute girls
>>142200483
Considering she's just 17 or 18, that's to be expected. Really, most of the SM's are just kids. Iris is the oldest girl and she's just 23.
;_;7
>>142200782
Iris older than Beatrix?
>>142200839
Yes, by a couple of months.
>>142200822
RIP Polandballs ;_;
>>142200883
That's pretty crazy. Guess the makeup and sexy makes Beatrix look older.
>>142200652
>brain problems.
Sounds about right. That poor mentally deranged imouto.
>>142200939
Teen Iris looks like a little bitch.
Which she is.
>>142190823
I wonder why people keep things in backlog if they have no intention of ever really picking up them. I suggest deleting it and seeing what happens later, will your brain forget about it or will you keep thinking about it?
>>142201056
Only because her mother is stasi and influencing her for the worse. She gets better and becomes a genuinely good person though.
>>142200939
Beatrix never looked her age, even as a 13 year old.
>>142200922
>you will never be Walther
>you will never hug Sylwia when she's awake from a nightmare
>you will never have someone as loyal to you
>you will never be with a girl who would only let you touch her
>>142201124
Urge to rape rising.
>>142200822
Quite flexible, I must say.
>>142193485
>mfw i fapped
>>142201206
Rude.
>>142201234
Slutmika liked it anyway. She's just putting on a victim facade so no one could deduce what a shameless slut she is..
>>142201206
When is the Beato one due?
>>142201155
Why even live?
>>142201206
Anyone have the previous version as well?
>>142201155
Why exactly does she like Walther so much?
>>142201299
>>142201324
I wish someone would give this a nice color treatment.
>>142201113
>kills Jurgen
>genuinely good person
>>142201124
>Iris sighed and continued to talk.
>"She's mature and very beautiful. You won't even think she's my age."
>"So her name is...?"
>"Why do you want to know so badly, big brother?"
>"Oh? So I need a reason, right?"
>Iris was looking at me with the same kind of look a person might give to a pile of trash.
Iris also describes her as being as beautiful as a demon (or succubut), so it's pretty canon that Beatrix was always glamorous. Saying that, there are still plenty of scenes where she looks her age, particularly when surprised or happy.
>>142201086
It's called "lying to myself"
It's nice to think that one day I'll have my life together and I'll be able to go all those things I am putting off. Deleting things is tantamount to admitting that I'm a failure.
>>142201279
Give it atleast June 7 or so. I don't have a credit card, the money is still being verified and the pose being decided.
>>142201374
I'm at talks with the artist to give it a proper color job, it's just as a matter of trust I'd rather not press them for it, not when I've paid.
>>142201479
Such beautiful eyes.
I would probably creep Lise out if I stared at them long enough, though.
>>142201511
>what? Is there something on my face?
>what are you looking at?
>>142201677
Born for love, made for hugs.
>>142179670
What would you have to do to make Beato give you this look?
>>142202911
Reenact the event of Irisdina killing Jurgen.
I wear the wig.
>>142202911
Anything!
>>142201511
>>142201677
>>142202522
>>142202911
Nice string of dubs there.
>>142201301
Because Walter is a genuinely good man who loves her.
>>142201197
If by rape you mean cuddle with.
>>142205552
How much tall is Theo?
>>142205753
~15cm?
>>142205753
Around 400 horizontal lines
>>142205753
This is probably a more accurate height comparison. Theo isn't that much taller than Iris or Beatrix.
>>142205913
Not really. Walter should be way taller, and Katia way shorter if we're going off of the VN.
>>142205913
where is Lise?
>>142206242
She's a spoiler character.
>>142206242
That picture is spoiler free. Otherwise poor Inghild wouldn't appear.
>>142175736
Fucking love this part. God feels great to reread this baby.
>>142206883
Takahashi's dad was an Indian?
Bunta looked like a regular old grumpy sallaryman with a quirky hobby to me.
>>142205913
>Pham is shorter than Gretel
>>142206975
Gretel's Vietnemese. She should realistically be way shorter then the majority of the cast.
>>142191050
Gives me woto tears. God forbid 1121 platoon met the same fate as 207B squad.
Well Yanks, do keep the thread alive for some eight hours.
Thank you.
>>142206932
No anon, it is a reference to Takahashi from Initial D and his dream.
Also I totally forgot Meiya did this. Fucking cute.
>>142206932
>>142207509
Fuck, never mind. Miss read your post
>>142207020
You need to read what you write before you hit "post."
>>142207695
what did she do with the sumika?
Inia, Yui and Cryska are my waifus.
>>142207880
Nothing much, just typical stasi stuff. Knocking on her door and running away, entering her home without a warrant and moving things around. Leaving presents in her sock drawer, stealing from her refrigerator. Stasi stuff.
>>142208216
but what is she doing on her window? is she trying to seduce takeru?
>>142208085
HAving ded waifus, you make me sick.
>>142208592
They are alive in my heart. After all, save in the name of true love.
reminder that Takeru is a fucking WAR GOD OF STEEL behind a TSF and every other so called pilot in Alternative is a complete shit tier scrub next to him
>>142208382
>Who are you.. where's Sumika!?
>I don't know
>You DO know! I see it in your eyes, where is she?
>Making new friends maybe, perhaps enjoying the company of my acquaintances, you worry too much.
>You.. If you hurt her, I'll..
>Ara.. so defensive aren't we? Perhaps there is something you wouldn't want her telling us about? Something about you?
>I don't even know what you're talking about, where the hell did you even come from? I'm so confused.
>Noted. I'll be right over so we can have a little chat and you can tell me all about who you are.
>I'm not the suspicious one here!
>>142208216
You think she does any of this to Theo or Iris?
>>142197363
It's really not a bad show at all. Certainly much more rewatchable than the SM anime. I certainly loved it. I know people don't like some of the fanservice, but even there you had interesting glimpses into characters and motivations and undercurrents, so there was a reason to watch it honestly.
>>142198204
To be honest, the world overall at that point in time isn't in 'world crusade' mode. The BETA are for the most part contained at the choke points. Hell, you can see that in that they felt confident enough to have the UN bring in units for field tests at Kamchatka. Pretty much everyone thought it'd be a simple operation. I think only Stella had a bad premonition about that operation.
Having a fake-vacation at Yukon would have been pretty funny though.
>>142199170
She's too moe because it provides contrast for...later.
>>142202911
I think the real question should be "what would you do if she gave you that look".
>>142209134
>She's too moe because it provides contrast for...later.
Whatever could you mean.
>>142193485
You feel it, don't you?
>>142199614
Take that back! At least in this world, we can be happy there are no virulent pathologies and ideologies like SJWs and feminism and the like.
Also, Anette's short hair is actually cute on her. And Gretel doesn't have problem glasses, she actually has thick ones for the reason old people had them - they don't break, and she does tons of paperwork. She wouldn't know the meaning of fashion or style if you bopped her on the head with a hair straightner.
>>142199734She'd cutely pout, so do it!
>>142199542
Bless you.
>>142208664
well said
>>142209239
>>142209378
Those glasses look cute on her, and if they are good enough for Honecker, they are good enough Gretel
Her superior officer had the same glasses too
>>142209378
Gretel wears birth control goggles because she's a low level commissar in a communist shithole. She can't get cute glasses.
>>142209560
Wrong. Those glasses are cute and she is cute too
>>142209506
>Onii-chan, the bad man is being mean again make him go away
>>142209604
she looks like a proto-hipster with those glasses
>>142209678
Commissars are the literal definition of proto hipsters.
>>142209553I normally like glasses, but I think they look super disgusting on her.
Her glassesless ponytail look is cute as fuck.
>>142209560
That is true as well.
>>142198959
Holy crap, Katia is going ballistic from bullying prevention panic. Even Anette is getting bullied and bullying a bit, isn't she?
>>142209604
It's mandatory for gathering information to use for future Laserjagd operations.
>>142209728
>>142209775
It's what commie leaders used
see Honecker, Jaruzelski and Allende for example
>>142209796Even if the ponytail looks good on her, she looks perfect with glasses
>>142209847
Laser class Gretel is 2cute4me
Holding hands with Gretel!
>>142208382
>is she trying to seduce takeru?
She'd have a pretty easy time of that.
>>142210202
10/10
>>142210129
Gretel is wearing nothing but her collar and panting with her tongue rolled out as we drive across the open desert.
>>142210339
Long time no see
>>142210202
So if
>Laser = Gretel
>Fort = Beatrix
>Destroyer = Theo
what would the other BETA be?
>Tank =
>Warrior =
>Soldier =
>Grappler =
>Magnus Lux =
>Carrier/Digger =
>Laser Fort =
>Superior =
>>142210447
Grappler should totally be Inghild.
Magnus Lux should be Sylwia, since her hair obscures her other eye.
Axmann should be the Superior, becausetwizzlersand rape go well together.
>>142210447
>>Tank = Walter
>>Warrior = Katia
>>Soldier = Lise
>>Grappler = Annete
>>Magnus Lux = Sylwia
>>Carrier/Digger = Pham
>>Laser Fort = Iris
>>Superior = Jurgen
>>142182354
The anime really sexed her up. I wonder if VN Lise would have successfully seduced Theo to her side if she looked like that.
Weaponized moé
>>142210988
>Weaponized moé
That's more Ursula's thing.
>>142211069
Where the fuck did he get a pickaxe from? Why does he have a pickaxe? I can't imagine them being very common among Berliners.
>>142211115
Why not? It is a pretty run- of-the-mill tool to have.
>>142211069
>>142210988
>Ursula: Politicized moe
>Lise: Weaponized moe
>>142211115
Road/Railroad maintenanceEven I have an pickaxe in my office
>>142210951
*LN Lise. VNs haven't gotten that far in the story yet. There will most likely be a choice for which way Theo goes, but whether it changes things greatly or is inconsequential to the overall flow like the anime is to be seen.
>>142211495
Gotta defer gratification. Protect Lise, then fug Lise. NotNot the other way around
>>142211495
This is age we're talking about, not Type-Moon. It'll be three Irisdina routes with slight variation, not three unique stories with heroines. Lise dying and Beatrix getting a CIWS rammed into her stomach will happen no matter what.
>>142211714
No! lies and slanders
>>142211665
>Ideal Lise route end
>>142211714
And Kouki wonders why Type-Moon is king and age second rate. If TM was doing SM, we'd get three routes plus a couple of secret side ones, maybe one joke route, and all of them with wildly different stories.
>>142211714
What if we get Three Lise routes? Lise and Theo defect to BDR, Lise x Theo x Katia and Lise x Theo x Beatrix
SM would be GOAT
>>142211829
I love how in fate, you can bro it up with Kirei and fight out what he's all about in one of the routeseven if you still kill him in the end.
>>142211943
>fight
*find
Too bad it's in wormslut's route.
>>142211911
What a wonderful world that would be.
>>142210951
She sorta carries herself more imouto in the vn, but that's because she hasn't revealed herself then.
Actually, you look in the VN, she dips hints of being really scary and creepy nite and then. It disorientates you.
>>142212587
So we'll be getting super evil Lise and Beatrix in Martyrs?
>>142212641
Too early to tell, but I'd put my money on at least not evil Lise. I doubt Beatrix will get the time for character expansion so she'll probably remain a somewhat one note "bad guy" with hints at a deeper story but it'd be nice if she did.
The way its looking a Lise route would most likely have to do with saving her from her demons rather than indulging them.
>>142213016
Martyrs will probably do its best to make Beatrix as much of a cunt as possible so you'll feel good when you kill her in the finale. Seriously, she's way worse than even Axmann if the anime is anything to go off of. Lise might or might not be saved, but I don't see stasi Theo happening ever.
>>142213016
>>142213187
Good, I want to save Lise and execute stasi, not join them in DnD-tier stupid evil.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uMN28GtT68ZPP2gS2Tq5Ipm4yw_odDBLpS3qM_camg/edit?usp=sharing
The sun is rising when you finally stumble into your hotel room. You're carrying Lise piggy-back. She's dozing on your back, with her head resting on your shoulders. In any case, she is too drunk to walk. She and Sylwia were already pretty lit when they met you in front of the theater, carrying around a stack of banknotes that they had earned hustling fat, middle aged businessmen at the poker tables. After that, your senses were overwhelmed when you say a trio of percussionists who painted themselves blue. For the cold warriors who had arrived in your life via the interdimensional mattress, it was new, strange, and exciting. It reminded you of a Pentium Three commercial from the good old days of the Y2K panic. Still, it was immensely fun.
After the show, Sylwia dragged your group into a club. She pulled Walther in, in a very literal sense, grabbing onto his left index finger so he couldn't squirm away from the pounding music and flashing lights behind the door. You step into the room, and stop dead in your tracks. You aren't sure this is the sort of club that Sylwia thought it was. There are women standing on stages around the club, doing acrobatic stunts on poles. They aren't wearing any clothing. You turn to the tiny girl standing next to you, who is watching one of the dancers, transfixed.
"Something's wrong with her boobs."
She looks puzzled. You try to think up a reply, "Um, I haven't been checking."
"No, look."
Lise points at the dancer, who thankfully hasn't noticed your little party yet. "See what I mean? she's shaking her shoulders like she had a beehive dropped on her head, and her boobs aren't jiggling at all."
"That's because they're fake."
"Fake?"
"Yeah... she has breast implants."
Lise looks down at her own chest, which is almost disproportionately large for her small frame, and grins. "I guess not everyone is as lucky as me."
>>142213663
>"That's because they're fake."
>"Fake?"
>"Yeah... she has breast implants."
>Lise looks down at her own chest, which is almost disproportionately large for her small frame, and grins. "I guess not everyone is as lucky as me."
HAAAAAAAA
>>142213663
The more you use it, the bigger it gets, methinks.
>>142213187
>>142213292
Theo jumping ship to stasi side wouldn't be in line with his character progression so far in the VN, and its not like Lise likes the stasi either in any version, just an instilled sense of hopeless submission, and extreme loyalty to Beatrix in the LN which they will most likely carry over to give her character drama/conflict.
>>142213663
>Sylwia and Lise putting their poker faces to good use
>Sylwia excited and eager to have fun
>Lise feeling good about herself
>Blue man group
Thats what its all about.
>>142214270
>>142200260
>>142200781
The most useless class
Only thing it have done is killing japanese people.
>>142214399
>imouto butt
Best day of her life.
https://u.pomf.is/vnpgrt.mp4
>>142214270
>Theo jumping ship to stasi side wouldn't be in line with his character progression so far in the VN, and its not like Lise likes the stasi either in any version, just an instilled sense of hopeless submission, and extreme loyalty to Beatrix in the LN which they will most likely carry over to give her character drama/conflict.
So we might get Lise killing Axmann and Theo cutting Beatrix in two? Sounds pretty good.
Strike Frontier any day now.
>>142214521
That sheer look of horror on Theo's face always gets me.
>>142214951
I still think Iris vs Beatrix would be better with Theo/Lise killing Ax but yeah that'd be about as perfect as it could get.
>>142215055
>Believes his whole family to be murdered that night
>Gets released from funhaus after three days for no discernible reason
>searches as best as one is able to in a police state for his sister
>no trace of her, presume she's dead after all
>join military just to survive
>three years later sister sister walks in the door
>she's a pilot like him, and just so happened to be transferred to the same unit.
I'd say he took it remarkably well.
>>142215415
Yeah, I just want to see these two die messily and save Lise. Is that too much to ask for?
>>142215876
Ask Kouki
>>142215415
>>142215876
Why do you guys want to kill Beatrix?
>>142216159
I didn't say I want to, but what are the odds it turns out any other way?
>>142216159
Killing hersoftly with lots of love, kisses and hand holding
>>142216159
>>142215876
>Final showdown
>Beatrix and Werewolves captured alive
>Lise pleads for clemency
>Werewolves reclassified as a penal battalion
>Earn their freedom, then "exiled" to Cuba
>>142216192Beato secret route
>>142216238
3lewd5me
>>142216239
>inb4 someone reposts that "breeding duty" post where Theo bangs them all daily to make new TSF pilots
>>142216250
yes plz
>>142216239
Why would anyone defend Beatrix?
>>142216729
Lise has a tendency to see the best in people.
>tfw no Grach TSF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX_AvU7B1y4
>>142216825
She has the tendency to see the best in Theo. She certainly doesn't see the best in the 666th or their fight for freedom.
>>142216159
She's like a less charming and even more retarded version of Esdeath, of course I want to kill her.
>>142216945
Because defying and beating the stasi in a straight up fight is unfathomable in her mind. And she was right until Ursula's magic speech powers and use as an icon unified the rebellion and inspired the people to row row fight the power.
>>142217115
She was a stupid coward then. Why would she attempt to kill her brother for people who make it obvious they hate her and love abusing her? Why would she want to force anyone to be a slave of someone who takes pleasure in the pain and deaths of her subordinates and would likely have him tortured to death anyways? If anything, Theo was safer in the hands of the rebels than the stasi.
Schwarzesmarken Original Soundtrack #3
FLAC:
www.mediafire.com/download/51w1n7sw1ahhh0s
MP3:
www.mediafire.com/download/i07ga4m3hfa42yy
>>142209796
>>142209955
>>142210129
>>142216962
posting superior version
>>142211495
Lise route is Theo being convinced to go back with Lise, then fucking her hard and aggressively Stasi-style until she's addicted to his cock, then reluctantly teams up with Beatrix to take down Axeman.
>>142217294
>attempt to kill her brother
When did she do that? If you're referring to disabling his tsf and approaching the canopy with her knife drawn it was either to cut him out and take him prisoner or kill to spare him from the pain and torture of resisting the stasi.
>for people who make it obvious they hate her and love abusing her
As far as the anime is concerned she's using them like they use her, to survive and "save" the one she loves. She doesn't rebel because she's terrified of them and for good reason.
>Why would she want to force anyone to be a slave
She didn't, she wanted to leave the country
>who would likely have him tortured to death anyways
Now you're just being obtuse
.
>>142210129
Punching Gretel in the face!
>>142211911
The character dynamics and story would not allow the first, and likely not the last either.
I don't think Theo and Lise would try to run, seriously. Theo has something he wants to fight for now.
Each route would have to end with different girl too. Sorry, it's just the way it is.
That said, there is possibility for more than just those three.
>>142217686
I could see that.
Beatrix is for abusing
>>142213187
>>142214270
You have to understand that Theo is practically mercenary at that point in the series - he's for the longest time operating under the impression Iris is Stasi herself. That and the Stasi didn't really care if you WANT to join them. If they forced his hand, combined with the benefits like not having to watch every word he says, it'd be enough for anyone to jump.
>>142186385
Her boots are raised.
>>142216872
Sorry to say, but considering the state of the USSR at that time, it'd merely be the Soviet license build of the A-10.
At most, it'd be the YA-9 prototype transferred over.
>>142206975
Honestly I don't think they're really to scale in comparison to each other in that layout. Walther's porportions look completely off like his face is smaller than everyone else for example.
Why is Gretel so useless, stupid and not cute at all?
>>142218735
So what's more accurate?
>>142205913
or
>>142205552
is it me or were the deaths just retarded pham died trying to bring lise back, lise kills her, then theo kills lise because she killed pham but that isnt what pham would have wanted. the only meaningful death was this fella
>>142219044
>Heim
>so incompetent as to be given the Western front while Merkel handles the East
>outsmarted by a 23 year old girl who just put on major and who's younger by half then his total military career
>ends up following a 15 year old and a twenty-something rebel
>worth someone's life
>>142219044
Theo didn't kill Lise beside of Pham. Her killing of Pham merely gave Theo the resolve.
It's not what Pham would have wanted, but that's how out is with Pham. Many things didn't go how she wanted.
But so long as there is still love, at least her last desire isn't lost.
>nighttime /a/ is finally here
>healanon is back
>feelsgoodman.jpgDTHW SE1 has become Movie The 1st. Currently wondering how to get more SM and possibly TE characters and themes into the series.
inb4 get out autist
Why is Axmann so much better as a person than Whoreisdina?
>>142217310
Isn't Lise's version of the ending theme supposed to be in this disk too? Everywhere I download this from is missing it.
>>142216159
I want to kill herpsychologically until she's nothing but my submissive slave
>>142216729
I would...
She's a pure soul whose life went a horrible way. But she never forgot what it meant to be a good person, or to fight for the last light. She never stopped loving. Pity her!
>>142219951
Are you sure its not the next one?
>>142220029
I don't know. Vol. 1 had the soundtracks + Katia ver., vol. 2 had the soundtracks + Iris ver.
>>142216729
Because she has a pretty face and a nice body.
>>142216872
>Take a MiG-21
>Mount two GSh-2-30
Oh look we got our SU-25 now.
>>142219951
No it did not
As you can see it doesn't mention it on the disc either like the other two
>>142219986
She's not feeling so big and scary now with a penis inside her, is she?
>>142220732
That's what she always really was though, deep down. A sweet girl looking for love.
>>142219986
what's the source for this img anyway
>>142220884
Koutetsu no majo Annerose
>>142220474
To be fair, the Mig-27 would or at least should have been a ground attacker tsf.
Katia? More like Fatia!
>>142220839
All she wanted was for someone to penetrate her barriers and touch her heart.
>>142217310
Danke schon, kameraden
EVERYONE STAND!
SALUTE!
>>142220839
>>142220732
>You will never keep Beatrix in your sub-basement after convincing her it's the only place she can truly be safe from the Stasi, the Moderate Rebels, the UN, INTERPOL and the ICC, all of whom are hunting her down with a mind to bring her to justice.
>You will never conveniently forget to mention there's a general amnesty taking place and she'd get let off with a slap on the wrist if she was willing to get back in the fight against the BETA
>>142209560
Gretel is a good citizen, she knows the Fatherland cannot spare the resources for cute glasses.
>>142217310
>>142216872
Why do you always want the Frogfoot?
It's a good ground attacker, but even there the A-10 has it beat.
Like the anon said, in this universe, likely never got made, or if it did, it's a Soviet A-10. Or YA-9, since it seems USSR sometimes is given or transferred technological expertise or even whole projects pro bono.
Kind of funny to think of how American-Soviet relations are in this world.
>>142223265
>not le_liberators.jpg
YOU HAD ONE JOB
>>142217310
>Endlosen Schnee
The latter part of this theme always hits very hard
>>142223358
You want some LIBERATION anon?
>>142223537
Lassen Deutschland bitte
>>142223694
>>142221449
But she's not fat. Only her butt is.
>>142223814
Verlassen Sie bitte jetzt. Sie erschrecken mich
>>142222634
>that feeling of wanting to hold her so she doesn't pout after falling down
Lord help me, this woman...
i want to protect that smile.
>>142225480
I want to tickle Beatrix.
>>142224551
I'm so fucking pissed about Lise. This fucking bitch should die "NOW" no matter what happened in the past. FUCK THAT.
I really hope Theodor has realised that she isn't his sister, and never loved him but an absolute psycho. Without any hesitate she killed Pham Onee-san and that after this nice reunion with Theodor ;_;
>>142226454
its rebels fault for rebelling and breaking the law. You are angry at the wrong people.
>>142226334
I want to take Jurgen's place as Beatrix's boyfriend.
>>142226511
get in line.
>>142225480
It is a good smile, isn't it?
It's the kind of smile she'd give after her kindly, crying one after you dress up as Jurgen for her birthday.
>>142226454
You trample everything Pham-nee stood for! What she stands for!
Pls stop.
>>142226535
I want tohold handswith Beatrix!
>>142226661
I want to beat her and Irisdina up.
Telling rape jokes to Lise and Sylwia!
Making fun of Gretel!
Calling Anett a dyke!
Calling Pham a yellow monkey!
Bullying Katia!
Praising Satan in front of Iris!
>>142227351
Stop this shit, Beato.
Or I`ll call youJurgen`s widow, and you don`t want to cry all night, do you?
>>142227351
>calling Pham a yellow monkey
It's like you want to take her back to the bad old days
>>142227351
>>142227293
>>142177645
I thought that dick always wins. Why onii-chan hasn't won her with his dick?
>>142227469
Because the whole of Berlin has won her before that.
And you don`t want to start thinking about what else besides dicks has been there.
>>142227469
Onii-chan's dick alone can't beat out the entire eastern bloc.
That's a lot of dicks
>>142227590
How does one bullyAxmann?
>>142227793
Deny him his fukboi.
That`s the only way.
>>142213663
You see Walther and Sylwia off the next morning, then spend a somewhat quieter day in Las Vegas, lounging by the pool, going to the sign museum, and capping off the evening by watching an elderly homosexual get mauled by an albino tiger. You are pretty sure that is not what was supposed to happen, but you can't deny it was one heck of an entertaining trick. The morning after that, you hop in the car and head south west, to Los Angeles. Your first stop is, of course, when you get stuck in traffic somewhere outside of San Dimas as you slowly crawl toward the coast. Lise has her seat all the way back, with her phone shoved in a 3D headset, playing a remastered version of Grand Theft Auto. She quickly determined that there were better ways to spend her life than staring at traffic, such as staring at traffic that doesn't exist. You shrug. It isn't as though she'd have any particular appreciation for the San Dimas water park, which is somewhat of a shame.
Eventually, you make it to Hollywood, where, despite your better judgement, you booked a hotel. After getting your luggage into the room, and taking a quick shower with Lise, you head out to explore the neighborhood. Lise looks somewhat less than impressed. Apparently, Tinseltown doesn't quite live up to her expectations. You're standing outside Whiskey A Go Go when she finally says something.
"This... This is really Hollywood?" She shakes her head.
"...Yes?"
"It's... I don't get it. Where are the celebrities? Where are the bright lights? All I see are homeless people and garbage."
"What did you expect? You were reading 'The Heroin Diaries' during the flight."
"Don't remind me... That guy spent ten years taking Heroin and twenty years whining about Heroin..."
Still, she lets out a giggle, losing herself in the magic of the place despite herself. She even catches sight of a star in the pavement that she actually recognizes, set into the sidewalk in front of a Ross Dress for Less.
>>142227793
You tell him to do his own dirty work.
>>142228872
>"It's... I don't get it. Where are the celebrities? Where are the bright lights? All I see are homeless people and garbage."
Sounds just about right if my own experience is any indicator.
>>142227793
find a masculine woman dress her up as a fukboi assign her to axmann and wait till he finds out.
>>142229238
She still has an ass and a mouth, anon.
>>142229816
The best parts.
>>142227793
Make him utterly powerless, and so reduce him once again to that child who long ago cried.
>>142230054
I doubt this guy ever cried.
>>142230084
His character, especially that line, screams someone tramuatized, and decided the only way out was first him, and all for him.
He desperately clings to power because it's what keeps him from being that snivelling weakling, that hurt son that he was.
>>142230296
>projections boogaloo
Not that I would expect anything else.
>>142230054
I wonder if he tortured animals as a kid. He seems like the type.
>>142229971
Goddamnit, the thumbnail made it look like Iris wears cat ears. Now I'm disappointed.
Surely he would be still alive in alternative right? Fuck man :_:
>>142230880
Was he even in the military in 2001?
>you will never defend Germany with 30 Strykers loaded with DU rounds
>>142230907
He should be, I believe he was in a carrier ship before Babylon happen , so he should be somewhere in a American carrier ship.
>>142230978
Babylon was in 2004/2005 and and Ouka was on the first of January 2002. The USA doesn't have the low draft ages the rest of the world has.
Beatrix's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5CVsCnxyXg
>>142231046
Probably still training then?
>>142231398
Maybe.
>>142230880
Well very likely. I mean considering he survived The Event.
>>142230907
He's not some snot nosed 14 year old yknow.
>>142230962
No Strykers yet, comrade. But M2's got more export success than our world. All is well!
>>142230962
Are 30 strykers with DU rounds enough?
I feel that missiles might do the trick. Just remove the deadspace to 0 meters and you are good to go. You could also bolt on some extra stuff.
http://ameblo.jp/agerienee/
The fags saying that Jurgen's BD is next month turned out to be correct, his birthday is on July 1st. If you want a cute picture of him and Beatrix, you should definitely vote for him in this month's BD elections (should be this or next Friday during the age stream, same time as always). Unlike Lise or Theo, I'm pretty sure he'll need all the votes he can take. He doesn't have an anime backing him up after all. Otherwise, expect the vote to swing to Gretel, Inia, and Sumika
Other birthdays include Erich Schmidt (July 6) and Gretel Jecklyn (July 12).
http://ameblo.jp/agerienee/
>>142232902
>Suspicion of summer release of Martyrs intensifies.
>>142232902
>in4 S00mika wins
>>142232902
>さてさて、毎週金曜日、21時から配信中のアージュ広報ニコ生「アキバcode900」、今週の放送は早くもアージュ誕生日絵総選挙2016、7月分の予選回が開催ですゾ~
Oh, just to clarify, the stream is this Friday, at 9:00 PM Jap time (which will be in the morning if you are American). Usually the vote is held towards the end, in the last 15 minutes of the stream (streams usually last for around an hour but can sometimes go a little over). Tune in though, usually age shows all the cool shit at the start of a new month, and with the big Schwarzesmarken event on June 18th, you can expect them to begin hyping Martyrs hard this or next month.
>>142233026
Possibly. age wouldn't be scheduling a Schwarzesfest this far out unless they were getting close to release. They'll probably unveil the release date this month.
>>142233039
I expect it. Sumika and Meiya are the face of Muv-Luv and almost always garner the vast majority of the vote (wouldn't surprise me if around 40% went to Sumika). Because of this, it doesn't take very many votes for the second and third place to get it, which is why if you are a Gretel or Jurgen/Beatrix fag, you should vote.
Remember, you don't need to be first to get a picture, just in the top 3, and age almost always pairs male protagonists up with their Tru Luvs in these pictures.
>>142233039
As it should be
>>142233464
I want to feed her actual Twizzlers just to trigger her PTSD.
I'd even make her look in the mirror as she puts them in her mouth.
>>142233338
I expect the top 3 to be Sumika/Inia/Jurgen(he is going to get Beatofags votes) unless people decide to troll and vote for ErichOf course that I'm going to vote for Gretel
>>142233570
The animefags can swing votes though. They swung it for Theo, who'd been relatively disliked and never won a BD poll until the anime came out.
>>142233537
>>142233627
Who was in that month too?
>>142232902
>July 1st
That's only a few days from the 4th, the freedom loving bastard.
>People actually voting for Schmidt
>People voting for Gretel
Well the latter is perhaps understandable...but really? Schmidt?
>>142233627
That's pretty sad. People who read BiS all seem to say that Jurgen is more likable and interesting, and his romantic dynamics to be way better.
>>142233910
see pic
>>142233931
Troll Option. And some MALfags and Redditors could do it in their ignorance.Not that they'll watch the stream anyway, I hope.
>>142233931
>not wanting the albino D
>>142233996
>Mira and Ms. Canuck
Fug
>>142233627
To be fair, Theo is not a horrible person. He's a very flawed hero, but most assuredly a hero.
>Mira lost
>Chobi lost
;_;
>>142234001
Most of them don't even know about the VN.
>>142234022
Theo squeezed by in third if I remember correctly.
>>142233931
>>142234001
Yeah, you can expect Futaba and the Chinks to troll things. It's why the Gate Guards kept taking November (and why Beatrix has only one BD picture so far).
>>142234070
>theo
>currynigger
>the girl from chicken divers?
>>142234212
>>currynigger
SM animeonly pls go and stay go
>>142234224
TE characters where shit
>>142234252
>where
I'm pretty sure I said to go ESL-kun
>>142233338
>>142232902
Jurgen doesn't stand a chance. I really want my Beatrix/Jurgen picture too.
>tfw we're not going to see adult Beato clinging to Jurgen like Lise hugging Theo
>>142234154
Their pictures are funny as hell though.
>>142234212
>>142234252
>Hating on Chobi
Kill yourself.
>>142234275
>implying that beatrixfags won't vote for Jurgen
>>142234305
>Kill yourself
contemplated and discarded
>>142234212
>currynigger
It's mountain loli, get it right, fuckface.
>>142234691
Poo in Loo subcontinent
It's the same shit
>>142234729
Still whiter than that whore Gretel.
>>142233537
Is Twizzlers available in Japan?I bet she would love that candy in Extra verse
Unrelated to this topic but I wanna try it out as well someday. Is it expensive to import to Europe?
>>142233996
Why do people like Jurgen more anyways? Isn't it Theo's mistakes and flaws that make him endearing?Theo is also way better looking anyways.
>>142235139
Because he doesn't go around stabbing waifus and been a paranoid ass
>>142235139
He isn't dense, is proactive, is pretty funny and doesn't have a harem or pseudo-harem for no reason, unlike most other ML MCs.And he has great taste in women.
>>142235139
Jurgen makes plenty of mistakes. Unlike Theo though, they aren't dumb or edgy mistakes. He also seems to be more self aware and slightly more introspective than Theo, who comes off as more of a willfully ignorant fanatic with weak ideals.
>>142235418
>doesn't have a harem or pseudo-harem for no reason, unlike most other ML MCs.
Is this a bad thing though?
>>142235217
>implying that they didn't deserve to be penetrated
>>142236529
>Is this a bad thing though?
Yes
pure love>harem
Stop wanting to penetrate things Theo
>>142236664
A real man spreads his seed around. Maybe Jurgen was just too much of a cuck for a harem.
>>142237303
>True love
>cuck
Wew lad.
>>142237303
A real man stays loyal to his waifu
Now get out of here you filthy profligate
>>142237303
The funny thing is is that even though Jurgen was a noted weirdo, he still was kind of popular among girls but wasn't interested in a steady relationship until he met Beatrix. So Jurgen could of had a harem, and probably did, but dropped all that after finding his princess. I wonder how the other girls felt about it though, and if they gave Beatrix crap for it.
>>142237303
>got outsmarted by Axmann
>got his girl use a tool by Axmann
>got executed by his own sister tbecause of Axmann
What a cuck indeed.
Sure he may have all the true love and shit but he was too gay to even fuck her girlfriend. At least they died both as a virgin and shit like that. Happy ending.
Thanks Theo!
>>142237619
They already gave her crap before, so even in the case that it got worse its unlikely she cared much about it.
>>142237619
>So Jurgen could of had a harem, and probably did, but dropped all that after finding his princess
A true gentleman
>>142237705
just stop with your retarded head canon. we don't even know what happebed because BiS isn't over yet.
>>142238011
We do. Axmann won. Everything that happened afterwards was the direct result of him outsmarting and killing Jurgen.
>>142238082
You're not very bright, are you?
>>142238011
>we don't even know what happened
What? That Jurgen died because he got outsmarted? Or the fact that his girl turn into a psychopath?
>>142239143
>Or the fact that his girl turn into a psychopath?
>implying that she wasn't born a psycopath
>>142239184
Sure thing.
>>142239803
>they say don't stick dick in crazy
>crazy are the only one who's any good
How come?
>>142240295
Because all women are crazy, only some are crazy in different ways to others.
>>142240385
This is true. It's easier to pick the ride you like than get off it
>>142240468
>you don't have to think if your waifu is bad or good
>all you have to think about is having fun with her
I like this kind of attitude
>>142240628
Thats what love is all about anon.
>>142240628
>>142240871
>>142240997
Exactly.
>>142231320
>you will never play rock n' roll or other genres to the SM characters
>>142241871
>you will never take Gretel to the last concert of the Puhdys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FCWNS02jP4
Suffering
>>142241480
>>142240997
>>142240295
>>142239803
Anime has taught me that evil girls always make the best waifus. They're almost always the most attractive (if not the most then at least a close second), intelligent, interesting, fun, charming, and loyal girls in the cast.
>>142242449
>>142242449
It's because 80% to 90% of the time they're just broken, hurt, betrayed, or such and are lashing out against the world. Give them a reason to have faith once more, and they can change their tune.
The remaining are a mess though.
So if Beatrix and Lise are supposed to be the two most intelligent girls in the cast, why were they so insane?
>>142243379
It has always been a fact that intelligence and sanity do not correlate in Muv-Luv. Do you not remember Yuuko?
>>142243379
you are too dumb to see their brilliance.
>>142243517
Well from some of the Jap comments, Beatrix could've been a second Yuuko had she been allowed to go into science instead of being squandered by her father, and I know Lise is one of the best spies in the stasi, has something like a photographic memory, knows multiple languages, and is a top tier pilot herself.
>>142243379
I would, however, argue she isn't smart, but that she has incredible amounts of willpower.The only thing that 'kept' Lise sane was the promise of her brother's life. Heck, to realize that she put herself through SO MUCH abuse, rape and torture for even the faintest possibility of reuniting with her brother shows, much less tell Axmann about everything just so that her brother wouldn't see the pictures and be purged.
In contrast, compare Sylwia's Polandball friend, Irena. The two were raped by the Polish soldiers attempting to escape the death trap of Wrocław. Irena committed suicide after they escaped.
It takes sheer will power to even make it that far, which then twisted into her very own reason to live.
>>142242449
> You will never lift teenage Beatrix from her depression and be her sole love interest.
> Beatrix will never devote her life in your memory trying to realize your ideals.
> You can never replace Jurgen in her heart
Is there a reason to live any more?
>>142244298
Triying to heal adult Beatrix?
>>142244409
she is kill john.
>>142244491
Best girls always die though.
>>142244491
Not before Theo penetrated her.
>>142244632
but not before gretel burned to death in agony.go away gretel fag
>>142244751
I ain't a Gretelfag.
>>142244864
you are not fooling anyone.
>>142244632
I wonder if they ever realized how sexual that is. They go out of their way to make sure that the audience knows that there is no one more glamorous or beautiful then Beatrix, then have her killed by the MC thrusting a long, hard object into her vagina/womb.
>>142244409
One can wish. Nothing short ofJurgen being alivewill heal her, though.
I suspect the LN does a good job of portraying her motivations very well. Shame the animu didn't.
>>142245030
From all the comments, the LN implies or alludes to it. She definitely resents Jurgen though (obvious as far back as the first volume where she refers to him as a traitor), even if she's devoted her life to him.
>>142244144
Well she's pretty fucking smart pham, not Yuuko level or anything like that just a bright student with a promising future. And after what she went through I'd say she turned out pretty good, people have become vegetables over less.
Truth is extreme intelligence and madness tend to go hand in hand even without traumatic experiences, but Lise was always in the normal range and would have been fine if she hadn't been targeted by Axmann who took a special interest in dragging her down to his level. He failed because at the end of the day thats not the kind of person she is, and its her love for Theo that no doubt allowed her to hang on to her humanity by a thread, but he really messed her up nevertheless.
>>142245165
Well he did, in a somewhat twisted sense, manage to get off the de that East Germany was, and leave her to ride it alone and suffer with no one to comfort her in any way or form.
REMINDER THAT
THIS SHOW ALSO NEEDED TO HAVE ANNETE RAPED
>>142245165
where in the first LN does she refer to him as traitor? i read the first LN.
>>142245326
*ride
>>142245326
>even Jurgen has to die to get off this ride
What hope do we have?
>>142245435
Her internal monologue about Iris and her traitor brother when one of her Werewolves asks her what the hell their confrontation with the 666th was about.
>>142245486
None, even if you find MabuRabu you will ride eternal on this ride, and it will most definitely not be shiny, chrome or any other pleasant adjective. Only suffering, tears and anger, as we ride together and bash each other on this endless ride.
>>142245611
"Someday, you will realize…
...the limits of your ideals. Only under stasi dominion…only ideals like mine and Jürgen's will bring hope to humanity...
...I shall be watching how it ends in Valhalla, with pleasure… "
>>142245904
>you called?
>>142245904
>>142245985
Didn't Katia prove that they were both wrong in the end?
>>142246266
proved how? by letting BETA take europe?
>>142246266
>Katia
>saving mankind
Pfffttt.
>>142246382
She proved that idealism was the path to humanity's victory, not ruthless and outright sadistic pragmatism.
>>142246365
Most of Europe should have been evacuated with minimum loss of life.
>>142246266
if anything, Katia deserves to get chomped for letting the BETA overrun Europe
>>142246548
based on what? your head canon?
>>142246548
>this qt3.14
>idealistic
Beatrix was right, even in the anime. The difference between anime Beatrix and VN Yuuko is that Yuuko still had a working moral compass thanks to her sisters and Marimo and infinitely more resources at her disposal.
I fucking hate Katiafags.
>>142246665
>>142246566
Wasn't the evacuation of Europe a huge success though?
>>142247067
Apparently yes, but the enormous attrition rates make it a moot point, since in the end the Europeans kept fighting to hold on to the continent wasting countless lives, and the refugee camps are shit holes, where many starve to death.
Shit writing or forced "darkness", its your choice.
>>142246813
Watching Akane Maniax and anime Yuuko makes my dick so hard.
>>142246548
>She proved that idealism was the path to humanity's victory, not ruthless and outright sadistic pragmatism.
>that's what westerners actually believe
>>142247369
She's a beauty isn't she?Beato and one of her Onee-sans have her beat by far, though.
>>142247067
millions died for nothing all because of MUH IDEALS
Whole Europe is worth shit by1990 and most of them had to be taken as refugees by britfags so what she "fought" for lasted less than a month
>>142247480
Well, it would go VN Beatrix > Anime Yuuko > VN Yuuko > Anime Beatrix for me.
If they ever make SM Extra, Akane Maniax Yuuko would be how I'd expect her to behave.
>>142247480
this one? she looks just like beatoimagine a threesome with her and beato
>>142247650
Yeah, Mitsuko is the sexiest of the three Kouzuki sisters. Sadly she is the sluttiest one of the three though.Stop, my dick can barely handle that idea.
You know who else kisses with her eyes open?
>>142247903soldier-kun?
>>142247903Best girl Beato?And all of Yuukos sisters.
>>142248245It would have been sexier if Mitsuko kissed with open eyes.But ehhh, its better to be corrected this fast than to wallow in ones errors.
>>142245218
> Well she's pretty fucking smart pham
> Fucking smart pham
> Pham
Not genius level, but smart and motherly regardless.kek
>>142245416
Reminder this should have been in the anime.
The cutest.
>>142235139
To be honest, I don't know, since I'm not one of the haters. Theo's flaws and mistakes DO indeed make him endearing.
Basically, I view Theo and Jurgen as extremely alike, basically. Because they are. Each could have easily tipped into being like the other if their circumstances had simply been a bit different. And if you dive deeper, they do have sort of similar beliefs, true motivations.You can see the older cast sort of treat Theo as Jurgen too, which makes for an interesting dynamic when contrasted against the younger cast.
>>142237619
Beatrix was always given crap, but with Jurgen with her, the wounds were protected by further arrows.
Why do Yuuko and Beatrix kiss with their eyes open? Is it because they're afraid that it'll all be just a cruel dream and that their lover won't be there when they open their eyes again?
>>142248607
pham in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12tce-THLUE
>>142240871
Wait a minute...;_;
>>142248751
They're pretty similar women, aren't they?
>>142243831
Well I don't know if they meant that literally, since it was implied Yuuko was basically born with her holy fuck mad tier science abilities.
Lise is smart, but she's not THAT exceptional. Having a photographic memory, again, seems to be mostly some kind of genetic randomness or whatever, so it's not so much a skill as a talent.
I also heard she knows multiple languages, but then again, I would think they probably meant, two, at most three, and two of them being in varying levels of fluency (i.e. not perfect). This being Europe, too, and a unified front stretching from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea, with loadsa refugees residing, they would naturally learn to pick up some of the lingo.
As per piloting, she's a very good one, yes. But saying she's top tier may be a stretch. Also, you have to remember her skills are weighted more into anti-TSF hunting too, as not just her, but most of the Stasi pilots are not so skilled against the BETA. When it comes to anti-BETA skills, the 666th stands out on top.
>>142244144
This is probably more right, sheer willpower is her gig.
>>142244298
S-stop it...
>>142244409
That's the thing dreams are made of anon.
>>142246266
>>142246548
>>142247067
Nigga, much of what remained of the German population only made it out because American units made horrific stand-and-die efforts to buy people more time. Repeat later with the French, and so on and so on.
Katia's gambit basically caused the dominoes to collapse.
>>142248767
They don't treat him like Jurgen though. You don't see either Iris or Walter looking up to him like they would with Jurg.
>>142248807
>[It ain't me muffledly playing in the distance]
>>142250053
>>142250053
>>142250053
New thread!