Araragi is scum

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>>142160373
Faggot

>>142160373
When exactly did he cheat on the crab? I know that she has cheated on him but I don't think he has done the same to her.

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>>142160373
I hope you just die

>>142160373
she is a cuck and likes it

It's called the harem genre and he is the face of it

>>142160373
Sad not being Ararag, right?

>that toothbrush scene
>he makes his sister basically cum
>not even that, but when he hesitates beaus its his sister, the fact that he has a girlfriend NEVER crosses his mind
>instead he thinks about this other girl Hanekawa and how he considers her the most beautiful girl alive
What the FUCK. This guy is scum.

>>142160607
Crab hasn't cheated on him, nigga.

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>Having a GF
when was this shit acceptable on /a/?

Araragi is the opposite of shitty harem MCs with no balls, he's also charismatic as fuck. That's why he's popular.

>>142161007
>he's also charismatic as fuck
He's not though. He's just as bad as most other harem mcs.

>>142160373
Alpha males like araragi are above your beta morals

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would actually like this show if it wasn't a harem

the only girls not in love with him are his sisters (questionable) and the lesbian (still questionable)

>>142160373
Author probably forgot he was writing a harem and accidentally let Crab "win" too early.

>>142161007
Just because he has kamiyan voice doesn't make him charismatic.

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>>142160980
2D>3D you retard. I can't believe I share a board with these types of subhuman scum.

>>142160819
>not even that, but when he hesitates beaus its his sister, the fact that he has a girlfriend NEVER crosses his mind
It'd be pretty fucking weird if he hesitated because "wait this isn't my girlfriend" instead of "wait this is my sister", anon

>instead he thinks about this other girl Hanekawa and how he considers her the most beautiful girl alive
Senjougahara agrees too

Feel free to ignore that Senjougahara has Kanbaru flirt with Koyomi and report back to her on everything he does, despite Kanbaru suffering from massive confidence and inferiority complexes as it is
or that Koyomi would've never helped her at all if not being the sort of person he is, she's the one who pursued him romantically in the first place and has no right to try and shackle the guy down

>>142161238
We can't believe we share the board with people who take the waifu meme seriously either, but eh.

>>142160373
Tbf, Senjougahara a shit too.

>>142161453
What the fuck is the "waifu meme"

>>142161214
>Just because he has kamiyan voice doesn't make him charismatic.
This, he's only mildly above Shinji level as far as charisma goes

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>>142160373
I agree, I can't understand why anyone would like someone as ingrate as him.

>>142160373
His ultimate soulmate, the one he has the strongest bond with, is Shinobu. Being his girlfriend means being only the second, and Senjogahara knows that. Him molesting grade schoolers or his sisters doesn't mean too much.

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Gahara is worst Gatari girl so it's understandable.

>>142160373
Its because people can relate to him.

>>142161767
Loli trio are best girls.

>>142161836
Except doll. Doll a shit.

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>>142161908
Fuck you too, buddy

Gahara is fine with him fondling other girls.

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>>142161908
How is doll shit exactly?

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>>142160373
jealous?

>>142160373
>He has the biggest 10/10 waifu ever
Not really. Senjougahara is arguably one of the least impactful and least important relationships to Araragi as a person in this series beyond simply filling the role of "girlfriend" that pretty much anyone else could have done. She gets way more out of it than he does.

>He molests a grade schooler
Not only is she a ghost who's older than Araragi, she rapes Araragi half the time too so it's pretty much even.

>lusts after some other bimbo
It's Hanekawa, who everyone lusts over. Including Gahara.

>practically fucks and molests his sisters.
Whether it's morally right or wrong, he doesn't actually view his sisters in a romantic light at all unlike his relationship with Gahara, the shit he does is "normal" to him. Also Gahara has a father complex that no one ever remembers.

>he's cheating scum
Only with Shinobu arguably, and not only was she there first but Araragi wouldn't have been able to help Gahara at all but for meeting her either. The rest of his interactions either isn't flirting or is other girls flirting with him instead of the other way around.

Right before she confesses to the guy she acknowledges his bizarre desire to throw himself at others (which is pretty much what the series focuses on) even. It's what she likes about him so basically she's a shitty cuck

>>142160980
I hope you get banned

>>142160373
someone sounds jealous. As far as i can tell Araragi has managed something almost no other harem lead can claim. He's reasonably popular on /a/ with few haters in general. Obviously he's one of us. I mean if you had half a dozen hotties after your D, you'd take advantage of the situation and play around a bit too.

unlike the reams of virgin harem leads he's getting it regularly with hitagi. Furthermore, Hitagi is cool with the other chicks cause she knows she's objectively better then all of them.

>>142161908
Doll is the best of the bunch by far.

>>142161908
>hating any of the loli trio

>>142161453
>we
Fuck off.

>>142160980
>gf
>guardian force

>>>/v/

>>142160373
That wasn't his toothbrush he put in her mouth.

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>>142162427
You could excuse him for being a faggot, right Anon-kun?

>>142161836
And Hachikuji is the very best.

>>142160373
Crab is the Cuck Queen. She doesn't even care.

Besides, she's his girlfriend only in name.

>>142162616
Of course, they are top girls.

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>>142160373
>practically fucks and molests his sisters
Family tradition, anon. His mother and father are siblings too.

In all seriousness though, Koyomi sort of deserves his harem I think. Unlike other harem protags where everyone just sorta irrationally falls for him, Araragi actively works to be the "rock" for these chicks as they deal with their personal shit. Only Nadeko was the only one who seemed sort of strange with this in mind, but you saw what happened with that.

Araragi is a fucking patron saint for those that walk the 2D path, Kizumonogatari is a holy text.

>>142162232
Good post

>>142162594
Accurate post

>>142161084
It's not a harem you cuck.

>>142163226
It's a harem genre. But I wouldn't call it a harem show.

>>142163226
> not a harem

Kek

>>142160373
>He has the biggest 10/10 waifu ever
>This shit taste

>>142163614
Crabfags live in a different universe.

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>>142160373
first off, crab is okay with him flirting with other girls. she did stuff with cat in the shower, so shes not 100 percent faithful as far as im concerned, either (goddamn hes lucky)

secondly, you may not remember what its like to be a high test highschooler, but this motherfucker lives with sex on his mind. reminder that he literally fixed his broken fingers in a second so he could have A CHANCE at group cats tits.

hes the most alpha anime MC there is, and i look up to him and all his intense perversion

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>>142162889
not to mention most of the girls at this point have kind of resigned to the fact that he is gonna be with crab and bat forever. cat has accepted her sad fate, monkey is just a perverted tease, doll was never in the running, and his sisters will remain just that.

its like you people never messed around with various girls in high school or something

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>>142163614
Wouldn't "the biggest 10/10 waifu ever, an actual girlfriend" imply that the girlfriend is not the 10/10 waifu? Because I'm pretty sure he meant Kissshot is the 10/10 waifu, and that is correct.

>>142163734
He looks like a beta fag but is the most alpha character in this genre.

>>142163226
It's a harem
but it's more fun than most harems

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>>142160373
>not molesting Hachikuji every time you get the chance
Gays not welcome

>>142163935
Pretty sure he is referring to gahara

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Op is right.
Araragi is scum for not giving monkey the dicking she deserves.
I grantee you Hana would have been way less mopey if she had gotten laid prior to it.

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>>142160373
Nice try OP. You aren't catching me. Your bait is weak.

>>142164224
He could have fixed and ruined so many lives with his dick.

>>142162232
Honestly their relationship is stupid and Gahara HAS to be written as a cuckqueen for the series to work.

>>142164224
Kanbaru is by far the chick he acts the most chaste towards, ironically. Him giving her a piggyback in Owari is probably the closest she's ever gonna get to Koyomi willingly giving her the dick.

>>142160373
>crab
>10/10

shit taste

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>>142164344
Yes and she knew it.
That's why she didn't want to let go.

Sodachi was my favorite arc since Nisei. I hope she comes back.

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>>142164416
owari monkey was just too good
>those yoga poses

>>142164326
>Honestly their relationship is stupid and Gahara HAS to be written as a cuckqueen for the series to work.
you've obviously never been to japan. Hitagi's attitude is actually VERY japanese. It's how Japanese wives confront potential cheating by their spouse. Traditionally the attitude of the wives has been "as long as he pays the bills and sleeps in MY bed every night he can do whatever he wants with someone else"

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>>142164439
She sort of does in Zokuowarimonogatari, and the follow up to Sodachi Lost happens in the following book that may or may not be adapted and is 2/3 translated so far.

>>142164224
His interactions with her are the best excluding maybe Hachikuji. So muh potential but he is stuck with the most dull and predictable girl.

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>>142164224
Considering a good part of that moping was due to him and Gahara leaving, probably not.

But the series really does need to end with Gahara declaring Cat and Monkey to belong to both Araragi and herself while Kissshot remains as his shadow. Crab has already been stained by his perversions and also seems to genuinely like Cat and Monkey, so a harem seems like the natural result.

>>142164522
Monkey is always the best

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>>142164522
I used to think the twintail were her worst look but now I realize that monkey can rock all hairstyles.

>>142164594
basically he's free to play as long as it doesn't LOOK like he's playing to anyone else. coming home every night keeps up the appearances that he's not playing around. paying the bills as well.

It's very pragmatic if you think about it. Though its typically the mindset of women with CHILDREN, not the mindset of a young woman in her prime... so in a way hitagi is just as weird as she always is with this mindset.

>>142164439
Ougi Formula/Sodachi Riddle/Sodachi Lost is my personal favorite set of arcs in the entire the entire series. Not even a Catfag but Koyomi & post-Tiger Hanekawa have really fun chemistry with each other, Ougi was at her most entertaining during this part of the story, Sodachi was a cute angry broken girl, and all-in-all it was a really fun little mystery story.

>>142164594
Traditionally.

>>142164613
Nice.

I'm purposefully behind by a season to avoid shitposting threads.

>>142164632
>braided monkey
>monkey with drills
>pompadour monkey

i beg to differ. also, fuck nisio and his hair cutting fetish, he ruined her like all the other girls

>>142164632
But her pigtails were terrible before her Owari design, she looks so damn cute now.

>>142164834
Ahhh so that's why that happens.

>>142164720
I'd say I liked Nisei's arcs a little more, but that (Owari?) was definitely the best season in recent years.

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>>142164834
>single braid to the side monkey
yes please

But obviously within reason anon.

>>142160373
He's exactly the person /a/ wants to be

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>>142165185
>my favorite

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>>142164893
Yeah I think it's cause there was just too much hair.
But maybe she just wasn't feeling very cute during that arc.

>>142165260
Big pigtails are terrible, but small ones always look really cute.

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>>142165313
I did not like the ones in nise too much either.
There needs to be a happy medium.

>>142165313
>terrible

Not really. Depends on the girl.

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is this a monkey thread now?
it sure looks like it is

>>142165367
Strong monkey arms.

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>>142161908

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>>142160980
>Plenty of people have a gf here

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>>142165748
Are you miring those delts?

>>142165848
I'm more into her tight belly.

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>>142165909
Anon that's lewd.

>>142160373
>MC is proactive with his harem
>OP complains like a faggot

Fuck off nigger.

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>>142165965
no, THIS is lewd.

>>142161908
She's not shit, but she's definitely outclassed by the other two.

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>>142166031
Wow, are you allowed to just sexualize monkey like that?

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not enough best girl in this thread
i know OP started us off with shit, but come on

>>142160373
Playing grab-ass with friends/family isn't cheating. Getting approached by other girls and turning them down isn't cheating. Araragi's relationship with Shinobu would be cheating, but she was there first and Crab started dating him knowing that she would just have to coexist with that relationship.

>>142160373
Jealous?

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>>142166577

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>>142166148
pretty sure she demands it

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How does he hold off fucking Shinobu's sweet round loli ass all day and night long?

I can't even imagine the amount of self-control needed for that

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>>142166792
She's too short

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>>142166867
she can grow in size and age any time she wants

>>142164632
Reminder that Kaiki is still best girl and doesn't deserve any of the bad things that happen to him

>>142166935
Fuck meant to quote >>142165254

>>142166792
Because he's still a dense moron that needs a flashing neon sign to know that it's okay and it would also feel too much like cheating on Crab.

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>>142160373
He's attractive, OP. Made me straight.

>>142166935
Most of said bad things that happen to him are self-inflicted, to be fair. No one is making him be a grumpy fuck who lies all the time for no reason - so what if he got cucked a couple decades ago, he's an adult, he should get over it already.

>>142160373
Senjou is bad. Also we like him BECAUSE he's a jerk, pedomolesting pussylusting sisterfucking schoolgradercuming jerk

>>142166935
Kaiki did a lot of bad shit anon.

>>142160373
It's because all the other girls are better, most people don't really care.

The sweetest scene Araragi has in the entire series isn't with his girlfriend Senjougahara, or with his soul-mate Shinobu, or with his goddess Hanekawa
it's the pick-me-up talk he has with his lesbian friend in his car in Hanamono

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>>142166905
Can you imagine the posibilities full milf to loli while on your dick.

>>142167152
RIP dick.

>>142160373
I dropped this after Neko.

Does it get any better?

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>>142167152
it would hurt a bit, since she needs to drink blood.
kinky.

also, what the fuck am i looking at

>>142167100
>hanafag
>thinking anyone cares about their opinion

>>142167279
Yeah, bacon in milkshakes seems to be the new thing. Five Guys started doing it (with bacon bits) and it's amazing.

>>142167301
Did I say that I liked Hana as a whole? I'm talking about one specific scene
I didn't give a fuck about Rouka taking years to explain her backstory

>>142167279
I wouldn't be surprised if Araragi got off on having his blood sucked between the pain working for his masochism and guilt as well as the intimacy of the act.

>>142163962
>most alpha
>When even fucking Makoto got his dick wet and Araracuck didn't

>>142167723
>araragi didn't get his dick wet
"Walk me home gently" anon, is that you?

>>142167791
Well, wasn't it anime original or mistranslation?

Anyway, he surely didn't fuck any other girl, so he's still below that faggot Makoto.

>>142160373
Hitagi has an NTR-fetish

>>142167414
MODS

>>142167878
He also has his head attached to his body most of the time so that's a plus.

>>142167878
>Well, wasn't it anime original or mistranslation?
No?

Even if you want to disregard that for some reason, how about the scene in Yotsugi Doll when he's in Gahara's apartment?

>>142167878
"Please be gentle with me tonight" and them him not getting home until the next morning is pretty hard to mistranslate. He also didn't get himself killed for cheating, so he gets a decent amount of alpha points over Mr. Nice Boat.

>>142167878
He fucked Karen and Kanbaru too. Or are you a blind faggot?

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>>142167723
>wifey slams him on the floor on valentines day after tying her hair up
not very perceptive, are we?

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>>142167503
does she only feel his pain/pleasure or is do they both? because if its mutual, he would feel her pleasure from her drinking it, while grinding his dick into oblivion

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>>142168106
No anon, Kanabru just gave him a brojob.
It wasn't even sexual.

>>142168106
Monkey said she was a virgin in Owari though.

>>142168242
That's because Araragi's semen regenerated Monkey's hymen so technically she's still a virgin.

>>142168200
I think Shinobu feels all of Araragi's sensations/emotions but to a lesser degree and it only goes that one way.

>>142168278
That's not how virginity works.

>>142160373
Why would his girlfriend care about bunch of imaginary girls like Shinobu or Hachikuji?

He does not really care sexually about his sisters, he just considers it normal, as weird as it may be.

Plus, Senjougahara's and Araragi's releationship is rather open, considering the way Senjougahara acts towards Hanekawa.

>>142163226
It IS a harem you dumb pile of shit

even the director of the show called it a harem

god how can someone be so blind?

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>>142160373
>OP tries to defame RRRG
>everyone comes to his defense with pictures of his glorious conquests
is he the luckiest MC there is?

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>>142169905
He has the world's most beautiful woman lurking in his shadow and constantly flaunting her body around him. Of course he is.

inb4 retards can't tell the difference between a bow and a toe

>>142160819
>instead he thinks about this other girl Hanekawa and how he considers her the most beautiful girl alive
well, he's not wrong

>>142170398
Yes he is. Cat is frumpy.

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I just finished reading Zaregoto vol. 2. Compared to the MC in that Arararagi is honestly refreshing.

>>142160373
>He molests a grade schooler, lusts after some other bimbo, practically fucks and molests his sisters.
Sounds like my type of man.

>>142171001
>monkey so low
the only faggot is you

>>142171001
Kaiki >CatBat > all

>>142171001
Shift Monkey higher up
Move Crab and Kaiki both further down
Snake can go lower too

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>>142171001
>ranking by form
>le kaiki is best grill maymay

>>142170777
Considering the death rate of Zare, mc doing fine really.

>>142171395
Snakefags are extinct. Feels good.

I don't fucking get it. I just finished Owarimonogatari.

At the end of Sodachi Lost Ararsgi said that he's happy.

20 days after that he said that he isn't happy.

What the fuck?

>>142171474
He's the lamest of the three excorcists by far. He's just Araragi if he got cucked and then decided to be miserable and start compulsively lying for the rest of his life.

>>142171001
>Kaiki
Epic meme.

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>>142171484
Hold on to your hat.

>>142171001
Kaiki > Vamp = Monkey = Doll > Snake = Phoenix > Devil = Bee = Crab = Tiger > Snail >>> Shit >>>> Cat

>people not even bothering to put Ougi in their best girl rankings

You all disgust me.

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>>142171001
Bat >> bee > snail > monkey > cat > bird > cat > crab > gaen > kagenui > ougi > does oikura have a nick? > doll > roka >> snek

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>>142171001
Snail > the rest
I finished reading the translation for Mayoi Hell. It came quicker than I thought. Very excited for the next part.

>>142171600
Oshino is cool
Kagenui is basically edgy chaotic neutral OP character
Faggot from Tsuki had zero personality
Episode is the edgy "how entertaining, hahahah!" teenager with a giant cross
Gaen is interesting
Kaiki is interesting

>>142171001
Bat>Monkey>Bee=Cat=Crab>Doll=Snail>Bird>Snake>Shit>>>>>>Sodachi

Con man>Hawaiian shirt hobo>Violent exorcist>Know-it-all bitch

>>142171701
Fucking this. Ougi is just as good as Kaiki

>>142171600
He's just Araragi if he started doing something with his life other than "protecting" (getting sliced, thrusted, smashed and generally screwed until the opponent gets bored) his friends

>>142171701
Ougi can go both ways really. Back the fuck off.

>>142171562
>20 days
The end of Mail was around 5 months after sodachi lost.

And both half-truths, he made himself happier in an argument about how everyone can be happy including Sodachi and more miserable to keep the status quo of the compromise he accepted in Kizu.

>>142171714
>does oikura have a nick?
Math, or Euler for the close ones.

>>142171714
>does oikura have a nick?
Oyster. It's the next step after "Euler" and pretty representative of her.

>>142171866
What? I thought that Shinobu Mail happened before Sengoku Medusa incident.

>>142171873
>knows everything
>leader of the exorcists
Of course she's interesting

>>142171873
Why does she dress like that? I must know

>>142171562
It's supposed to clue you into the fact that Araragi is lying at the end of Shinobu Mail. Both he and Shinobu are stupidly happy together despite the rough start.

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I want a sleevejob.

What's Ougi's problem? Who the fuck is she/he?

An aberration created by Oshino/cast's feelings after his disappearance?

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>Implying you wouldn't do even worse if you were in KoyoKoyo's position.

>>142171738
>Hitagi's end is the highlight of the second season
A lot of the arc is pretty good, yeah. Not my personal favorite one but I can see why it would be for a lot of people.

>He has no powers and still is badass.
He's an excorcist. An excorcist's sole role in this series is to be overpowered as hell and deliver a big dumb cheesy speech at the end of whatever the hell they're doing onscreen.
If Araragi's immortality was vague and unexplained would he be badass too? It's pretty much a non-factor either way as far as I can tell.

>"I'm going to get punched around the whole series cuz lol I don't die cuz loli vampire lol"
swap out loli vampire with being an excorcist and you get what Kaiki did during Hitagi End.

I mean it's fine if you want to like the character but your given reasons for doing so are shit. The parallels with Araragi are pretty bluntly intentional.

>>142171846
Like I said, he's just Araragi if he got cucked and then decided to be depressed about it for the rest of his life. That's his backstory. Not him getting over it even though he's a fully grown man and not a hormonal teenager anymore.

>>142172044
Remember the big fire breathing tiger kaiju oddity that Hanekawa spawned in Tsubasa Tiger? Ougi is kind of like that, but spawned from Koyomi

>>142171873
I don't think you know what a Mary Sue is.

>>142172054
For one thing, I wouldn't be tied down to that bitch with crabs.

Don't spoil anything else just tell me - is it explained in Ougi Dark?

>>142171952
Shinobu Mail is framed as Araragi telling Ougi about the Seishirou incident long after it happened. So once he finishes telling Ougi about it and delivers his speech about not being happy it's well after the Medusa incident.

>>142172091
Fuck. >>142172146

>>142160373
Cat>Monkey>Bird>Snail>Spooky>Bee>Doll>Crab>Vampire>Snake>Math

>>142171952
Like Ougi Formula, in Shinobu Mail there is the present moment in which he is talking with Ougi and the past event he is narrating. He talks with Yotsugi in his house, and she only started living there after tsukimonogatari, in fact it ends right before koyomi dead.

>>142172203
>>142172146
you should've said that you didn't want spoilers first you dummy

>>142172170
>>142172222
Shit, I marathoned the series and now I can't think straight. Should I watch Koyomimonogatari now?

>>142172231
I know, I know. But that spoiler actually made me more curious about her.

>>142172272
Yes. Then read Owarimonogatari 3.

Shinobu > Hachikuji > Tsukihi > the rest of the girls > Gahara = Hanekawa > shit > Nadeko = Gaen

>>142171001
Monkey>Snail>Bat>Crab>Cat>Sleeves>Bird>Doll>Bee>Snake

>>142160373
>Shichika is a faggot
>Rararagi is a faggot
>Iichan is a faggot
hmmmmmmmmmmm

Impressed multiple translations of the LN's is going on.

Why do people hate Star and Snek ;_;

Hes an interesting character and funny as shit.

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>>142172136
So you would left a girl with horrible mental health and a history of being manipulated to fend for herself? A good looking girl at that? Would you really?

>>142161930
peace peace

>>142172054
I wouldn't sacrifice myself for a vampire so the story wouldn't happen.

And I might have ended with Sodachi because at one point I'd be curious about the girl I'm spending all my time during the whole summer.

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Spooky > Cat > Snake > Doll > Monkey > Bird > Snail > Math > Bat > Bee > Crab

In before the butthurt Crabfags and Batfags.

>>142172394
Because they are cunts.

>>142172317
>Having knowledge of the supernatural is not a superpower.
Getting physically beaten up by a goddess and being pretty much fine is a superpower
getting impaled by a spear afterwards and being fine is a superpower too
it's well established within the series that the Excorcists are fucking powerful, like I said it's part of what their general role within the plot is.

He "won" that battle the same way Araragi wins his. He took a beating, gives a cheesy speech and then the other party gives up. You're trying to make a distinction here that doesn't exist.

>Bat's first servant is much superior to Araragi.
Incidentally one of the biggest examples involving a character straight up outsmarting their opponent as opposed to tanking through it was Araragi defeating Seishiro, good job on bringing that up I guess

>>142172420
She can find someone else to coddle her. I'm not going to dedicate my life to wiping the ass of some random classmate. So if you'll excuse me, I've got a bunch of lolis to make happy.

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>>142172393
Was worth the wait and feels good it's the more latest LN's of the series.

>>142172463
>doll and snake so high

There is no accounting for shit taste is there?

>>142172529
I get why Snake causes so much butthurt, but I will never understand how anyone can hate Doll. I guess it doesn't help that Zoku-Owari isn't animated, which is probably where she gets her biggest opportunity to shine.

>>142172529
>hating Doll

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>>142172500
> beaten up by a goddess

Okay buddy

>>142172529
What Doll do? She's great.

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>>142172510
But that's not true, isn't it? You're going to keep masturbating alone in your room, aren't you?

ITT: Cheating, flirting with and having feelings for people other than your partner is okay as long as you're a guy and reasonably likable

If any of you ever, by some miracle, get a gf, she will treat you like rrrg treats his gf

>>142172694
>gf

Just type girlfriend m8

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>>142172694
>If

>>142172572
>>142172585
>>142172610

I don't hate doll I just don't see how you would put her high. I guess with Owari she finally showed some screentime but even after SS there were dollfags and I don't understand them.

>>142172591
Feel free to watch the rest of it where she kicks his face in. He did get roughed up by someone who isn't human and came out pretty much fine. In the LNs him getting beaten up was lot more melodramatic too, in the anime they evidently ran out of budget (evidenced by how shit the arc looked animation-wise in general) so I suppose they toned it down

Not to mention what happened with Ougi after that as well, still fine there too.

>>142171714
Switch Cat with Monkey and you've got a comrade on me

>>142172694
I don't think I would want a gf that is as full of self loathing and depression as araragi.

>>142172738
Like I said, she probably has the most screentime of all the girls in Zoku-Owari since she spends the whole novel being Araragi's bro tier back-up. She also has a POV story in Oroka, not to mention she was awesome in Owari.

I wouldn't have ranked her that high only based on SS, however.

>>142172748
>kicks his face in
>in

Anon are you retarded or just pretending?

>>142163226
Found the cuckfag

>>142172694

Would dump her straight out if the situation arrives. First be questioning why bother to get one when already got a waifu.

>>142172816
Yes, "kicking his face in" as in getting kicked in the face with force. That's what the phrase means, do you want me to teach you english now as well?

>>142172694
not letting your girl know you're with her by choice, so she feels special.

>>142171001
Switch Crab and Monkey, faggot.

>>142164621
>he is stuck with the most dull and predictable girl.

Except she was the only one willing to tell him how she felt the second she knew she loved him. Hanekawa had him served up on a silver platter, and never did anything because of bullshit reasons.

Crab, BOTH sisters, Snail, Monkey, Shinobu, and Doll have all had a taste of the ragi dick except for her.

>>142172694
Casually flirting with friends makes you a cheater as much as casually talking shit to friends makes you an asshole. Just make sure everyone is on the same page and it's fine.

People will naturally not be over previous lovers, or find people other their their current lover attractive. It's human nature. So if you don't act on those attractions and turn down advances from people, it's not cheating, because that's the best thing you can do that's humanly possible.

I don't know what you're referring to as cheating. But yes, outright cheating on your lover is wrong, though the definition can vary from couple to couple.

>>142171846
Ougi belongs to the below shit tier along with Snake.

>>142172463
>Bee and Bat so low but having Cat that high but also Spooky and Snake that High

Jesus christ what the fuck

>>142172864
No anon, kicking something in requires some part to fall in.
He took about as much damage from that kick as he did her swipes.
Which is to say there may be a bruise later but even that is pushing it.

You are full of shit.

>>142172986

Wait until you hit Ougi in Ougi Dark, that part of Vol 3 is amazing.

>>142172995
>maybe if I quibble over a figure of speech, people won't notice how much of a retard I am

>>142172994
>caring about Bee

>>142173090
He ain't wrong to be fair.

>>142172994
It's literally just (You) farming by putting popular characters at the bottom and unpopular ones at the top.

>>142173090
Your main point is that Kaiki took as much of a beating as Araragi.

This is what I'm refuting directly. You are the faggot who fucking ignored the last 2/3s of my post so you could pretend to be the victim of an ad hominem.

>>142172989
>Kaiki fooled Snake, he didn't give her a cheesy speak like Araragi does.
Sure he did, it's why Nadeko gives up in the first place.

>Araragi is the worst character in the whole series
It's fine to have that opinion. I don't think that thinking Kaiki is "badass" while dislike Araragi makes any sense at all though.

>How can you even defend him?
Defending him from what? Beyond saying that there are paralells between Kaiki and Araragi I'm not even talking about Koyomi as a character

>>142172995
Point taken then. I'll correct myself for you.

Nadeko, a goddess, kicked him and punched him and Kaiki got away relatively unscathed.

>>142173176
No, I'm actually just that much of a hipster.

I actually like pretty much all of the girls to some extent. The only I really don't care for is Crab.

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>>142173176
>monkey always just in the middle

Does it get easier with time?

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The courage to cheat on your girlfriend.

>it's cool to hate Kaiki now

What the fuck happened to you, /a/?

>>142172995
That was bullshit. Snake could have easily killed Kaiki if she wanted but the first thing she did is kick him instead of impaling him. Shitty writing honestly.

>>142173271
If he actually had that, he'd be balls deep in Shinobu.

>>142173182
>You are the faggot who fucking ignored the last 2/3s of my post so you could pretend to be the victim of an ad hominem.
I'm not the anon you're replying to, but you're talking about ignoring posts
Kaiki getting beaten up by Nadeko was one line in my post >>142172500

>>142173310
People can like whoever they want, I'm just talking about one anon's specific reasons for liking him coming off as weird to me

>>142173226
It's not relevant that she was a goddess when she hit him. You don't know how hard she hit him.

In fact you never see her display any from of physical strength. All she did was stab and poison Araragi and bat.
Your assumption that she must be supper strong is based on nothing.
The fact is when Kaiki confronted her about the comics she completely forgot about her godhood and lashed out like the scared little girl that she is.

Your assumption that those hits must have been super strong are based on nothing.

>>142173347
Think the fallout of that happening would be one hell of a ride for Araragi considering how whacked their current relationship already is.

>>142173467
Lel no and not what I was on about.

>>142173310
I don't hate him. He had his time to shine, it was good, and he didn't wear out his welcome. I'm just tired of people raving about it and saying shit like he's a better MC than Araragi because I don't really see how he could carry an entire series.

>>142173387
>one line
>Getting physically beaten up by a goddess
>He took a beating

Your whole argument that he is physically powerful is full of shit.
And I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about here
> impaled by a spear afterwards

>>142172989
>Kaiki's speech
>not cheesy

Some Kaikifags are just deluded as fuck and see what they want to see.

>>142173420
If anything, it would be a big step in the right direction and start forcing them to be honest about things. I'm not worried about it rocking the boat too much because staying together is a top priority for both of them and I'm confident they can work just about anything out.

>>142173519
Crab can't kill a wet paper napkin anon.
She's all bark and no bite.

>>142173645
Don't think Hitagi would manage that.

>>142173645
Crab is way too insecure to ever do this. She probably thinks that Araragi would leave her forever if she tried it.

>>142173645
Anon you don't get it.
It's not that Crab is not strong enough.
It's that she has no fucking balls.

>>142173645
A) She's not actually capable of that.
B) Shinobu won't voluntarily go that far away from Araragi.
C) Shinobu isn't dumb enough to fall for that.
D) Shinobu could probably regenerate from any wounds a non-exorcist could inflict.
E) Araragi would leave her.

>>142173310
I don't hate Kaiki, it's just that people really overrate him.

>>142173926
>Didn't Crab said she'd fight Nadeko if got to it?
Why are you taking Crab at her word? Her entire character is built on bluffing.

>>142173926
No, she just said she wanted to die first.

>>142173926
Crab knows nothing about supernatural and can't even observe it. No conventional method will hurt Shinobu, and she has centuries of combat experience besides her superhuman powers.

Even if she wanted Crab can't do anything against anyone not fully human, including Araragi. And even between the humans she is on the weak side.

>>142174080
I forgot that Crab chose to stay away from the Kaii world and wants nothing to do with it.

>>142174080
Are we sure she doesn't have some fighting habilities? She is always with her school arsenal and she seems very good at using it.

>>142174214
Senjougahara can't hold Araragi hostage unless he hangs around willingly. We saw that in Nise he was perfectly capable of breaking the chains once he heard his sisters were in danger.

>>142174280
Shinobu broke those chains, not Araragi. However, kidnapping Araragi without Shinobu immediately realizing that something is wrong is impossible because of their bond, so then she'd just sniff out his blood like she did to Karen in Nise and sprint after him, several times faster than any human can.

no one has provided a good enough argument why araragi isn't a cunt besides that he's a decent self insert faggot mc

>>142174388
>why araragi isn't a cunt
why does it bother you so much? The series doesn't portray him as some paragon of moral upstanding to begin with

this is why Bake is the only good story in the series, crab is God tier tsun, araragi isn't scum, all the other girls are well defined

then comes nise and introduces irrelavent shit characters, araragi starts becoming trash, and crab loses her tsun

tl;dr fuck this series

>>142174206
Barely above a normal girl. Weaker than bee who trains martial arts and monkey who practice sports. Not as smart as Cat, who also has seemingly cat like reflexes even as a human. The only one she "defeated" was a hikikomori who can barely pay for food through a surprise attack and still broke her finger.

>>142174388
Araragi is a flawed and troubled teenager anon.
Most of his fuckups have to do with him not valuing himself enough and so he is heedless of the consequences that his actions bring him. His relationships are rocky because he doesn't think he deserves any of them.
He's so mired in self hate and doubt that he can't even let himself be happy.
All the problems the girls face reflect his own to varying degrees.

But it's okay, he gets better.
And he's entertaining to watch.

>>142174388
I don't remember anywhere being said Araragi is the ideal human being.
He is just horny teenager with some respectable fetishes that has a likable personality and a proactive mindset.

>>142162427
i don't hate doll. i find her disgusting. she's a frigging corpse. But then again i like Wendy the Litch so maybe i shouldn't talk.

>>142172317
>" He's in no way just "Araragi if he got cucked" "
>people still denying that Kaiki is supposed to be seen as a parallel to Araragi with
You literally get an arc where Koyomi has to fight a super-powerful oddity as a human, where he succeeds by twisting the rules like a sneaky con man. You have to be denser than Koyomi to not fucking see it at this point.

Kaiki is supposed to be "bad end Koyomi". People in these threads usually agree on that much (and that Meme & Kagenui are parallels of Araragi too). If Araragi fucked up his relationships and never manages to fully move on from that, you get Kaiki. The reason he was able to help Nadeko even was because the relationship between Koyomi & Nadeko was pretty much what he had with Gahara, he knows through experience how and why it's causing harm. Not because he's some sort of "badass", the guy's a loser with self-inflicted grumpiness. Doesn't make him a bad character or anything, it's stuff like that which makes Koyomi and Kaiki more interesting within this sort of story even.

>>142174388
People like him because he's a cunt.

>>142174821
You say that like she was a decomposing zombie or something, she is very alive.

>>142174893
Yes. A very determined Hanekawa could kill just about anyone. I don't know why she ever would, but she could.

>>142166031
no that is bad art.

>>142174388
The thread went beyond the original purpose.

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Have you ever thought about this?

>>142175165
Thought about what?

>>142174488
Bake's probably the most consistent season in terms of quality.

I still enjoyed Ougi Formula/Sodachi Riddle/Sodachi Lost to pretty much all of it though. Problem was that I didn't enjoy Shinbou Time all that much barring a few specific parts of it.

>>142175165
Mayoi is 21. Shinobu is 598. Ougi is less than a year old.

>>142175247
Missed the reply, watever

>>142175277
Yeah? When did it say that about Ougi?

>>142175165
So clearly Araragi wasn't lying when he said that he's not a lolicon. Hachikuji, Yotsugi and Shinobu are all way older than him. I don't know why you guys ever doubted him.

>>142175350
Owari 3. Ougi was born shortly after Araragi had his showdown with Seishirou.

>>142175165
Isn't Ougi like, a few months old?

>>142175396
My bad then

>>142175360
>So clearly Araragi wasn't lying when he said that he's not a lolicon

He's a fake lolicon that's indistinguishable from the real thing

>>142175277
Sleevefags confirmed for todlercons

>>142175360
Depending on what you consider that start of Yotsugi's life, she could be less than 10 years old.

>>142160607
>I know that she has cheated on him
Lies and slander.

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>>142175491
We have video proof.

>>142160373
late to the party but

retarded post man

>>142175543
Not that anon but this is quite obviously just two innocent girls showering together.
Stop being such a pervert and seeing things that quite obviously aren't there.

>implying you wouldn't do the same if you were surrounded by so many best girls
I know I sure as hell would.

>>142175648
LEWD
E
W
D

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>>142175648
I'm sure all the stuff Araragi did was innocent as well.

>>142175360
I wonder who's behind this post.

>>142175648
It's about as innocent as the toothbrushing scene, yes.

>>142175543
What's wrong a little naked fun in the showers with your friend every now and then?

>>142175716
The only person he gropes while they're both naked is soul bound to him and Crab knew about their bond before asking him out. Well, also his sisters, but not even girlfriends have the place to step in and criticize family bonding.

>>142175716
Well no, Araragi is guilty as sin. There's no way the crimes he's committed could be misconstrued as anything but perversion above that of a certain junior.

>>142174508
My point is that crab is very good at using weapns. Remember when she stapled araragi in the mouth? That was when her weight was 5 kg. To take down a healthy 17 years old boy she has to be some kind of weapons specialist.

>>142175803
Or she just has to rely on his surprise and fear, like she did.

>>142175765
Good dental hygiene is important, anon. A brother helping his sister remember to brush is a valuable experience for both parties as it reinforces great habits.

Do you think RRRG has threesomes with Shinobu and Hitagi?

>>142175866
Nope. Everyone knows his first threesome would be Hanekawa/Senjougahara since it's the only relationship he has where everyone loves eachother.
Shinobu and Senjougahara aren't exactly buddies.

>>142173112
Bee a best, fight me

>>142173176
The list I commented about wasn't mine, it just threw me the fuck off

>>142175866
I mean, if he has sex with Senjougahara, Shinoubu would not only watch, but aslo feel the pleasure, wouldn't she?

>>142175866
Purely out of circumstance, yeah sorta. Shinobu feeling everything he feels and all that.

>>142175921
I dunno, Hanekawa won't accept Araragi unless it's just them two and no one else. It'd probably be pretty awkward and wouldn't get going.

Lets be real here, the first threesome would be Koyomi/Karen/Tsukihi

>>142175921
Well, they generally approve of each other, but yeah, they don't particularly want to get chummy.

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>>142175921

>>142175826
Right after ragi gets up and chases her, she faces him with her arsenal. And she was ready to confront kaiki in a battle.

And you don'really expect a sick, ill girl to play fair. That's just being smart to fight

>>142176010
>implying the sisters don't automatically cockblock eachother at every moment a la Nisemono and Tsukimono.

Everyone knows it would be Kanbaru/Karen/Araragi if Kanbaru could get over her beta status or Seishiro/Araragi/Kiss-shot if Kiss-shot could get over hers.

>>142175966
But the pleasure on Araragi's end comes from his cock

Does that mean Shinobu feels male orgasms despite not having a dick? How does that work? The part of Araragi that's being pleasured does not correspond to any part of Shinobu's body

Does she have phantom dick orgasms?

>>142176115
She's pretty good at shapeshifting. They don't have to be phantom.

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>>142176035
Kill me

>>142176115
That is deeply intriguing

>>142176081
Kanbaru/Shinobu/Koyomi could work

>>142176081
Seishirou is actually dead now and genuinely trying to commit to one partner isn't "beta status".

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Araragi is actually a pretty likeable MC

>>142176237
Kanbaru is totally the issue though. She wouldn't actually sleep with Araragi anymore.
Hana Kanbaru straight up got over that phase.

>>142176252
Not aiming for the harem when presented is the bitch way out.
Shinobu still had feelings for Seishiro and she could have had a harem. Kanbaru even points out that she could have had a wonderful triad but it was Shinobu's butthurt which stopped it.

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>>142171001
Bat > Crab > Snail = Monkey > Bee > Cat = Bird > Doll > Snake

There is no use arguing. This is science.

>>142176350
>Kanbaru even points out that she could have had a wonderful triad but it was Shinobu's butthurt which stopped it.
Well there's also the matter of Araragi and Seishiro accepting it or not.

>>142176387
Well yeah but ultimately Shinobu is the lynchpin in that situation.
Can't a brother just want a situation where there are three super-powered vampires running around wrecking shit?

>>142175360
Except he wanted to molest loli Hanekawa.

>>142175431

Except there was a line in Kabuki that wasn't in the anime where he said one of the perks of going back in time was more availability if underage porn.

>>142176350
>Not aiming for the harem when presented is the bitch way out.
Geez. It's almost like she's trying to treat the person who made her the happiest she's ever been in her 598 years of life properly and not gamble for the sake of a juvenile power fantasy when she stands to lose everything if she fucks up.

>>142176115
Even worse
What would they feel if they had sex?

>>142176532
So basically she's a failure? Unable to actually take risks for massive reward?

>>142176624
At least keep pretending that you're making a genuine argument. You can't just go full retard like that and expect people to play along.

>>142176668
At least give me some points for getting this far. Shinobu is still beta as fuck though for not trying even if I do understand her reasoning.

>>142176584
Shinobu would gain supernatural amounts of pleasure as she felt for both of them. Araragi doesn't feel things over their link, but I'm pretty sure Shinobu has a supernaturally good body.

>>142172927
>Hanekawa had him served up on a silver platter, and never did anything because of bullshit reasons.

She wanted to establish an actual friendship with him instead of jumping into dating, she, as Black Hanekawa said, thought she had time to do that, not that he would up and accept any confession no matter how long he knew the girl.

Basically, Hanekawa has the long game in mind, while Araragi was a guy with a huge lack of self confidence who just accepted the proposal of a girl that he met two weeks ago. Hitagi and the class even thought he and Hanekawa were dating, it was a literal wut on all sides. Hitagi and Araragi just happened to work out, and even still currently, Hanekawa helps them out. She co-planned the date in Hitagi Rendezvous.

>>142175543

Araragi does get depressed they exclude him from their private dates in the novel for Ougi Formula, and Hitagi has confessed to loving Hanekawa in the commentaries twice...maybe you have something there.

>>142176894

Where can i get subbed commentaries please?

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>there will never be a prequel of the exorcists' shenanigans together in college learning about the occult

>>142176894
Doesn't Hanekawa realize she loves Senjougahara in the novel version of Neko Shiro, too?

The worst part of this show is that crab got the "main girl" slot. She is more fitting as a side bitch

>>142177009
Only if we get Kagenui for MC, i'm tired of Araragi being kicked around,

>>142176750
The risk-reward proposition was retarded and the only way they could all realistically be together would involve completely shitting all over Araragi by making him give up on his life as a human, making him kill people to survive, and making him be a cuck as he shares Shinobu. Even bringing it up could make Araragi seriously resent her.

I'm not even sure if what sort of feelings Shinobu had for Seishirou anyways. It seems more like 400 years of "what if" and self-loathing festering after a crush went to hell than actual love.

>>142177227
>self-loathing
Whoops, I meant guilt.

>>142177149
I hope you're kidding, the fact that those 3 haven't had a threesome is already ludicrous without Hanekawa thristing for Gahara.

>>142177357
Hanekawa is too proper to accept one, Araragi is too beta to ask, and Senjougahara is too insecure to proactively put Hanekawa in bed with Araragi.

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>>142176191
me first

>>142177357
>But, naturally, I could not deny also feeling, “Why can’t I be like that?” so I would sometimes pull pranks on her at night, and the way Senjougahara-san would react in such occasions were similarly irresistible.

>I understand now.

>I love Araragi-kun,

>but I love Senjougahara-san as well.

>Having admitted this to myself, I felt my heart had finally managed to break for the first time.

>The pain accompanied me as my heart was broken.

>This lifestyle continued for around ten days.

>>142176894
>and Hitagi has confessed to loving Hanekawa in the commentaries twice

What, what? You're telling me I should actually what the series with commentaries?

>>142176282
I always forget what scene is that, is he about to charge at Hachikuji?

>>142177724
They're talking about Hachikuji without her backpack. Beginning of Shinobu Time I think.

tfw waiting for Kizu still

>>142177692
The commentaries are amazing. Only Bake has all of them translated, but you're going to be clamoring for every one you can get after finishing those.