Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1557

For those doing a J-J vocab deck, which dictionary do you pull the definitions from? Or do you make them yourselves

about time

Do you talk to native speakers for practice? Is there a good resource for that?

何か連絡することがありましたか電話なりファックスなりでお願いします。
Can it also be read as "If there was contact, phone or fax me"?

It supposedly is "If you have something you want to contact me about, phone or fax me."

In that case why isnt it 連絡したい

Reminder that Ankidrones cannot learn Japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqfISgCQV-U

>>142156397
The direct translation would probably be more like, "if there's something to communicate, phone or fax me."

>>142156612
>何か連絡する
Some contact
ことが
Nominalizer, "Some contact"

ありました
Existed


???

>>142156135
Already saw this one.
Get creative or just use the standard

After watch bokunohero academia im insanely inspired today!

Ganbaru were all going to make it!

>>142156735
Inspired to become an hero?

目的を達成し、反省はその後でいい。たらればをやっている最中から言い出していたらキリがないのだから。

Can anyone help me with the second sentence? I assume the first means that as long as the objective is achieved feeling bad afterwards is fine. But for the second one I don't even know where to start. "If [Subject] started talking mid way through it wouldn't have an end"?

>>142156197
once you're good enough to use a J-J dictionary do you really even need to bother with anki?

>>142156197
I always used Daijirin and Daijisen. Both have good definitions and are available online.

That said, I think using a J-J vocab deck was about the worst study decision I made. It just takes so much longer to get through them. While you do get extra exposure, dictionary definitions are the opposite of compelling content.

J-J is great for learning words but inefficient for reviewing words you know.

>>142157281
>good enough to use a J-J dictionary
You can do that as soon as you want to. Not like there's some point at which you'll know every word used in a word's definition.

>>142156197
goo (which uses Daijisen)

>>142156443
>lower lapse number to trigger a leech card
>vocabulary that "doesn't stick" automatically gets filtered out and suspended from your deck while you continue memorizing 20-40 new vocab daily
>leave it up to reading to memorize leeches

ez

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Is this an accurate illustration for this kanji?

I wish I knew Japanese, "translating" raws one speech bubble at a time in Google is hard and takes forever

>>142157416
Title?

>>142157449
That's some dangerous bait, let me defuse it before it takes off.

>>142157367
is there a way to get rikaisama to export to anki, but while pulling from a j-j dictionary or even both e-j and j-j?

>>142157339
>It just takes so much longer to get through them. While you do get extra exposure, dictionary definitions are the opposite of compelling content.


Yeah, I usually just look at the example sentence I got the word from and only bother reading the J-J definition if a can't remember the meaning after that

>>142157484
You can add dictionaries to Rikai and switch between them with shift + 1-9, although I've never added one myself. Not sure if you can use two dictionaries at once.

>>142157416
Seems about right.
Are you making a deck with doujin imagery or something?
Because that would be pretty cool.

>>142157476
Not baiting, just thinking out loud. A series I followed didn't get the last few chapters translated, so I've been reading through it manually by using Google Translate.

Makes me wish I knew Japanese, but on the other hand I'm not sure I'd actually use it much outside of the occasional manga or light novel series so it's hard to convince myself to commit.

Do you learn more when relaxed or on edge?

>>142157714
>Because that would be pretty cool.
It would be pretty cool, yeah, but it's a fuckton of work, innit?

>>142157753
Doujin Japanese is pretty easy to learn. Just google Realkana and learn the kana, then read Tae Kim's basic and essential grammar sections and download KanjiTomo. That's about all you need to have a decent grasp on what's happening. Shouldn't take more than 10 hours.

>tfw finally memorized that elusive word for a body part because it appeared 100 times in porn game
compelling materials are really important

>>142157955
>tfw you know every synonym for fat or chubby
Hentai makes for very practical learning material

>>142157817
when i got mad while learning hira and kana i would punch the shit out of my dresser until i couldn't feel my hand and after that i felt my retention went up and was able to remember stroke more easily

>>142157944
Thank you for the advice, I've been using Realkana to learn hiragana thus far.

For the record, it was for the series Boku Girl; most regular scanlation groups are still in the 70s while the series ended at chapter 107 a few weeks ago.

Is girls und panzer worth watching

>>142158338
yes, especially the movie

>>142157955
I can't remember 恍惚 even though I saw it at least 5 five times in my last ero LN

expressions like 地団駄踏む・無我夢中 -> easy
恍惚 -> hard as shit

>>142158246
how do you stroke if you couldn't feel your hand

>>142157110
たられば = hypothetical situation

Not enough context for me to feel confident giving a translation though.

>>142158970
ETA ANAL

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japanese the manga way has these nice charts at the end of some of the chapters. when i finish the book and start reading would it be beneficial to print them as a reference?

pic related

>>142159163
just memorize that shit and watch some cartoons so it sticks

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>>142159163
There are superior charts.

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>>142159433

>>142159433
might as well just print out the ones on wikipedia at that point

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>>142159433
>There are superior charts.
This

>>142159163
You can just hover over the word with Rikaisama when you're reading.

>>142156715
>何か連絡することがありましたか
My guess is that the use of past tense here is some lazy way to do 〜たら, so this part of the sentence resolves to "if there's ever an occasion for making contact or something"

Mostly speculah, but I see nobody else is biting at this point.

>>142157110
Tyler didn't prepare me for this, is that what the real world looks like?

>>142159870
My guess is that the person who posted made a transcription error.

I didn't notice that it wasn't たら upon first reading

>>142160300
the flashcards have alot of errors in them

>>142159433
does this even have "past" on it

>>142156715
ある is very commonly used with こと in the sense that something exists that has to be done, this is also seen with its negative form ない

連絡することはない。
this would mean "you don't have to contact me"

何か連絡することがありました
"there was something you had to contact (me about)"
the fact that it's past tense here is similar to たら (or it could just be a transcription error, and it literally is たら), in that he's speaking from a perspective of somebody about to call him after it has already been hypothetically confirmed that there was something to contact him about, if that makes any sense, he is not referring to the actual present moment here

anyway I'm half sure you actually can put か here as a question marker and it works just fine, as a hypothetical question leading into a suggested course of action, but I might be tripping myself up with that

>>142159433
>the yakuza super rude conjugation
Lel

verb -> terminal form (dictionary form)
verb -> conjunctive stem (masu stem)
verb -> lower conjunctive stem (-te/-ta stem)
verb -> prosodic conjunctive stem ("volitional")
verb -> imperative

ichidan verbs:
terminal form - ru
conjunctive stem - No tail.
lower conjunctive stem - っ
prosodic conjunctive stem - ro
imperative - ro

godan verbs:
terminal form - Cu
conjunctive stem - Ci
lower conjunctive stem - convert conjunctive stem tail to "low" form; this means ん・い・し; whichever is appropriate. Note that lower conjunctive し is unvoiced, while the normal conjunctive し is not.
prosodic conjunctive stem - Co
imperative: Ce

There are exceptions and they aren't covered here.

>>142161544
fuck u talkin about bra i thought we were learning japonase and not english

>>142158267
Time to go read the ending and spoil it for you

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>平成28年
>not using japanese to learn more about their society
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akhnbs7bUB0

>>142161544
you forgot irrealis form (nai stem)

ichidan: ra
godan: Ca

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I just did a practice N1聴解 and got only one question wrong! Last time I tried to do one I chickened out at the first question.

>>142161690
>tfw I aced the listening part of the test questions on their site
>after only watching anime and learning kana
I failed everything else in the test

will anki on mobile work with the anki startup guide that's in the OP?

>>142161824
Yes? You make an account on Anki's website, then you save your PC Anki's data onto that account and from there you can download it onto your phone and vice versa.

>>142161035
yes

>顎の無精ひげの感触から、手入れをして十七時間前後。おそらくは午後十時前後だと思われる。

C-can you actually find out the time like that?

僕はいつかアフリカに行きたい。

>>142162277
なんで？

give me your hot opinions on renshuu.org

Worth it?

>>142162263
Why not?

>>142162263
Sure. Your beard growth rate doesn't really change all day much day to day.

>>142162304
火力を弱めないと肉がこげるよ。

how do I know how to pronounce 後 or 間 or 生 when theres no furigana

>>142162389
>meat is burned with an unweakened flame
I don't know if my translation is retarded or if your sentence is retarded.

>>142162489
it's you

>>142162489
It's your translation

>>142162489
君だよ

>>142162489
Both です

>>142162454
The common readings are あと、あいだ、なま.

>>142162591
>>142162598
>>142162649
If the flame isn't turned down the meat's gonna burn, then? That doesn't fit the context either, please help

>>142162329
It's an online Anki and worth it if you're doing a separate kanji study as you can adjust the words to the kanji you know.

The quizzing makes the grind less boring than Anki but it has the big downside that you need to be online all the time to do something and the SRS is coded different so if you try something like 40 words a day in a couple weeks you'll be doing over 600-700 reps a day.

Also you can't import words as fast as with Anki and Rikaisama so...try it and see if it suits your tastes, otherwise go with the tried and proved Anki.

>>142162489
If you don't reduce the firepower, the barrel will overheat (meat is a synonym for barrel of a gun).

>>142162742
but it's not the the other ones aren't common, they're used all over the place too

help, my anime didn't teach me enough context clues to tell whether it's あと or ご, あいだ or ま, なま or せい or き or whatever else

>>142162945
Fuck you.

>>142162752
One can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.

>>142161690
>>142161747
What do you use to take practice tests?

Im starting to write now.

Is there a proper way to learn stroke order or does it really not matter as long as you're writing?

Does fish oil really make you smarter? If the answer is yes, can you back it up with a resource?

>>142163518
Learning proper stroke order can help you remember where you're supposed to add those little flairs, but mostly it's about as useful as learning cursive.

>>142161544
What's this? I've never seen many of these terms before

>>142163550
It's like fuel for your brains.

>>142163659
thats because its made up

>>142163427
For listening? Youtube. Here's the one I just did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdtrbaj343s

>>142163722
So is drinking my cum, but I don't do that either.

>>142164067
Why not? Don't you like the taste?

>>142164067
>So is drinking my cum, but I don't do that either.
its like you don't want to learn japanese

>>142163518
It's very useful if you're planning to use any kind of hand writing recognition stuff. whatever you scribble can look nothing like the original kanji, but if the stroke order is correct, it's usually recognized.

私はアメリカから人です。
ハンバーガー食べたい。

>>142157110
たらればを言い出したら切りがない seems to be an expression similar to "no use crying over spilt milk"

日本語をどうやって習いますか？

>>142163572
I'd say considerably more useful, since a lot of handwriting recognition software depends on it to look up kanji.
It also helps write faster and more legibly, and read shitty fonts and hardwriting, but I guess that's where cursive is somewhat useful too.
Granted, though, that literally everyone writes with proper kanji stroke order, cursive is comparatively more rare and so is probably still less useful even in those aspects.

>>142164340
That makes sense.
>たらればをやっている最中から言い出していたらキリがないのだから。
No point starting to say what we should have done when we're already in the middle of acting.

>>142164434
俺はこうやって学んでいるぞ
＊チンポのファスナーを下ろす*

i accidentally deleted 2 notes on some occasion in core 6k, guess i'll never know which words they were.

>>142164617
You fucked up hard dude. There's no way you can learn Japanese now unless you restart core entirely.

what happened to kanjidamage?

>>142164340
>>142164494
Oh now I see how that "What if" is meant. That also explains the を placement. Thanks a lot guys this was really bothering me.

>>142164617
You'll know when you fail the Core6k section of JLPT

>>142156397
こと
何か連絡すること

nominalized.

>>142164664
たられば is literally the conditionals たら and れば smashed together, by the way.

>>142164617
in your anki profile folder there's a text file where deleted cards are saved

>>142164649
what are you talking about?

>>142164823
kanjidamage

俺は日本語だぜ。
このスレのお前たちは汚れ外人豚。

>>142164836
kanjidamage? what happened to kanjidamage

>>142164897
you're a language? woah

I thought these were daily, not eternal.

So now that Kanjidamage is kill what's a good source for radical / kanji mnemonics?

>>142165062
They were daily, now they're eternal. The commitee in charge of renaming the thread in still in session. Please return later.

>>142164967
外人豚確認された
*アンシス刀*

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スレ仲間たち, what is the difference between 髪,　毛 and　髪の毛?

>>142165274
>髪
hair
>毛
fur
>髪の毛
hair

>>142164899

sorry the site had been down since yesterday but look like it's ok now

there were some kanji I forgot the mnemonics for and I had to use google cache to look them up because I couldn't access the live site

>>142165523
Ｉ　ｈｏｐｅ　ｉｔ　ｎｅｖｅｒ　ｃｏｍｅｓ　ｂａｃｋ　ａｓ　ｍｎｅｍｏｎｉｃｓ　ａｒｅ　ｉｄｉｏｔｉｃ．Ｊｕｓｔ　ｕｓｅ　Ａｎｋｉ　ａｎｄ　ｆｏｒｃｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｋａｎｊｉ　ｉｎｔｏ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｍｉｎｄ　ｔｈｒｏｕｇｈ　ｓｈｅｅｒ　ｒｅｐｅｔｉｔｉｏｎ　ｉｎｓｔｅａｄ　ｏｆ　ｕｓｉｎｇ　ｄｕｍｂ　ｇａｙ　ｐｈｒａｓｅｓ　ｙｏｕ　ｆｕｃｋｉｎｇ　ｆａｇｇｏｔ．

窓のレールの部分に人が入れ無い程の開方部分を作る様に「つっかい棒」を入れて居ます

窓のレールの部分
At the rail portion of the window

人が入れ無い程の
A (4) To the extent people cannot enter

開方部分を作る様に「つっかい棒」を入れて居ます
開方部分 is made burglar bar is inserted

I cant imagine what a 開方部分 looks like? "extraction of roots portion"? Its basically a bar which is inserted into the frame of window such that there's a fixed opening right?

>>142165842
Sure that's not a type for 開放?
The rest of it is converted badly as well so that's probably the issue here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IOZbJ7PCPk

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Can someone type out the text in that right box for me please?

I've been thinking about it for ages but I can't tell what the kanji are

>>142166144
*typo

可愛い彼女がほしいなあ

>>142166329
可憐なキミはほしいな

What's the difference between から and んです。

>>142166421
Read the DOJG entry for them.

>>142165842
>入れ無い
why would you do this

>>142166159
?喰い老人
澤田翁

>>142166411
What's a millet anyways?

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>>142166578
this thing

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>mods deleted the fun japanese thread
Why couldn't they kill djt instead?

>>142166806
Because Japanese can't possibly be fun, but it can possible be discussed daily.

やりました。GENKI１を終わりましたですから。

>>142166856
『終わる』は他動ではないから
『終える』を使いなさい

>>142166856
ｇｅｎｋｉ　ｉｓ　ａ　ｐｉｅｃｅ　ｏｆ　ｔｒａｓｈ　ｔｈａｔ　ｉｓ　ｎｏｔ　ｍｅａｎｔ　ｆｏｒ　ｓｔｕｄｙｉｎｇ　ｏｎ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｏｗｎ，　ｓｔｏｐ　ｕｓｉｎｇ　ｔｈａｔ　ｓｈｉｔ　ｙｏｕ　ｆａｇｇｏｔ

>>142166969
Jokes on you. I roleplay as multiple people and /we/ get through it as a group!

>>142166568
Damn that's 喰い? I thought it looked like 譲

I feel like I've seen that first kanji so many times too but I just can't remember it

>>142166806
Japanese is only fun to idiots who don't know what they're dealing with.

>>142166806
DJTを殺しても死なない

>>142166159
Google Translate is really good at kanji scribbles, if you didn't try it before.

>>142167268
Ｔｈａｔ　ｉｓ　ａ　ｂａｄ　ｈａｂｉｔ，　ｙｏｕ　ｓｈｏｕｌｄ　ｊｕｓｔ　ｇｅｔ　ｇｏｏｄ　ａｔ　ｒｅｃｏｇｎｉｚｉｎｇ　ｒａｄｉｃａｌｓ，　ｙｏｕ　ｃｕｃｋ

just started yesterday learning jp, any advertsiment, tip, etc?

>>142167255
Nah, the language is pretty fun.

>>142166159
I think the first one is 賞

>>142167268
I tried that already, I'm usually really good at identifying kanji, it's pretty easy with Jisho's radical feature and Google Translate, but I'm still not having any luck

>>142167351
Learn English first.

>>142167351
Use Wanikani to learn words, it's the most efficient method by far.

>>142167351
>any advertsiment
Learn English as well.

>>142167347
I did study my radicals, but is there really any advantage to searching through a dictionary, other than the feeling of superiority?

>>142167410
Ｙｅｓ，ｙｏｕ　ｄｏｎ｀ｔ　ｈａｖｅ　ｔｏ　ｄｅｐｅｎｄ　ｏｎ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｌｕｃｋ　ａｎｄ　ｐｒａｙ　ｔｈａｔ　ｇｏｏｇｌｅ　ｒｅｃｏｇｎｉｚｅｓ　ｗｈａｔ　ｙｏｕ｀ｖｅ　ｗｒｉｔｔｅｎ　ｉｆ　ｙｏｕ　ｊｕｓｔ　ｓｅａｒｃｈ　ｆｏｒ　ｔｈｅ　ｗｏｒｄ　ｉｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｃｏｒｒｅｃｔ　ｗａｙ．

>>142166806
Because nobody argues about anything questionable on /a/ if it's lasted for more than 4 years else they suffer being labeled a newfag.

>>142166144
>>142166181
That typo was autological. Neat

>>142167491
>Luck
It almost always works, the radical lookup should be just last resort as it's way too slow.

Anyway
>Not using superior KanjiTomo

Baka dess sempai.

>>142167491
There's no luck involved, if you write a kanji into google correctly it will spit it back for you ten times out of ten

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What's the last thing /djt/ cooked?

>>142168013
ステーキ

>>142167983
Radical resort isn't slow
You just select a couple of the easy 3-4 stroke radicals and then estimate the stroke count to within like +- 3 strokes and then you have a short list just like if you drew the whole thing.

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>>142168013
my semen

>>142168013
タキトズ

>>142168013
I just made some motherfuckin granola bars they're coming out in 10 minutes and they're gonna be fucking amazing motherfucker

I gotta make some miso again tho shit's pretty easy but I'm out of baked tofu so I gotta bake some more at some point

>>142168013
チーズのオーブンでシェル

What's the difference between a suggestion and a proposal?

Aren't those concepts kinda linked? They look so similar to me.

Suggestion:
>Let's learn Japanese!

Proposal:
>We could learn Japanese!

>>142168346
Is this the Daily English Thread?
No it isn't, go read a fucking dictionary.

>>142168431
But I've been told to go learn English first.

>>142168431
But how can you learn Japanese if you can't even understand English?

最高の男は最高の休みの前に何の最高の単語を言った？

さ、行こう！

【亜季】「……わたしは、星修学園に推薦入学してみせる」

is she saying she is being recommended to that school?

>>142168505
So why are you still here?

>>142168723
Because I don't understand English.

>>142168755
Why would you try to learn English in the daily Japanese thread? Go read a book or something, nerd.

>>142168790
>Why would you try to learn English in the daily Japanese thread?
The more I think about it, the more I believe this anon >>142168755 has got it figured out.

>>142168707
Aki-nee is showing off her connections.

>>142160780
Which deck?

>>142168914
oh thanks, I was parsing 入学してみせる as one part for whatever reason

>>142169146
It means "I will definitely enter Seishuu with a recommendation" or "I will show you I will enter..."

>>142168707
The way Japanese schools work is often schools at different levels (such as middle and high school, or high school and college) are connected. If you go to the lower level and perform well you can get recommended to the higher level and get easy admittance, whereas people from other schools gotta fight their way in

>>142169146
It is one part. It's te+miseru, which is in the DOJG.

ore want to my dick de omanko wo ireru

The first couple days of reading Tonakoi I was reading for 30-60 minutes, but for the last ~3 weeks I've been reading about 5 minutes per day, and I don't see it getting any better. I need to find something I actually want to read, but it is hard because I don't even like reading in English.

After 2 VNs I'm already sick of high school and sex scenes.

>「そうでしょ。よくいわれる、しばりたてのミルクに魔女がカビをはやしたってことでも、あれはとくべつなチーズをつくるためだったっていいますよ。ほら、今じゃみんあ同じようなもの食べてるじゃありませんか」

What is しばりたて here?

>>142169450
A sign that you need to review kana

>>142169410
>After 2 VNs I'm already sick of high school and sex scenes.

Stop learning Japanese then. Japanese entertainment is all about high school life and there is no point in learning Japanese if you don't like Japanese entertainment.

>>142169410
>After 2 VNs I'm already sick of high school and sex scenes.
Read something else, hey. Most erotic VNs are primarily smut, like erotic romance novels women slick themselves off to. Why not try something that isn't designed first and foremost to get your dick engaged before anything else?

>I need to find something I actually want to read, but it is hard because I don't even like reading in English.
Doubt you really don't like reading. What are you interested in? Even the lowest of lesser apes find themselves extensively reading up on their pet hobbies. Surely there has to be something you can be engrossed in for hours on end.

What about places like 4chan- do you spend a shit load of time here? Try replacing a chunk of that time with ふたば.

>>142169633
>Japanese entertainment is all about high school life
No it's not you goddamn pleb.

>>142169410
I told you you wouldn't like Tonakoi.

Try something fantasy like Evenicle or something scifi like Island.

>>142169605
What makes you say that?

>>142169680
>No it's not you goddamn pleb.

頂点のけｋ, you don't know kuso about nihon. They worship high schools because they are obssessed with 青春, you can't consume Japanese entertainment and dislike 高校

>>142169450
絞りたて

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>>142169605
It does in fact say しぼりたて. Well, shit.

>tfw you realize you can't learn japanese

>>142169968
only their pointless YA pulp is dominated by that garbage though, and it's the same with pop culture in the english world
it's definitely safe to tread past all the 青春 sludge and find something actually good to enjoy

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I'm a fan of Tagaini Jisho so far but I don't understand why this lower box exists and why I can't remove or hide it. It sucks and no information it has is something I care about.

>>142170287
is it better than jdic?

おまんこが好きんだよ！おまんこは最高んだよ！
おまんこ！おまんこ！

>>142170357
It's offline which is the main thing for me, assuming you mean the JDIC website. It's find for what I'm using it for. I just want that dumb lower box to go away. It's stupid enough to make me drop the entire program, because I feel like the developer is taunting me. Every other part of the GUI can be removed with a simple hotkey EXCEPT that one.

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>>142170401
>when you dont know enough japanese to actually have a conversation

>>142170496
>lets shame people who are still learning Japanese in a thread about people who are learning Japanese!

>>142169633
>Its as if not everyone is into autistic shit, and learning japanese
>Inb4 >>jp

>>142170429
never mind, another garbage program that doesn't support high res displays just like anki

uninstalled removed deleted unpinned from start menu

>>142170605
So its bad to shame people who shitpost?

>>142170732
How do you know that's a shitpost?

Serious question. I don't know how to distinguish between someone trying to craft sentences and someone who is deliberately bad.

>>142170996
You shouldn't try production until you're at least advanced level.

>>142169813
>I told you you wouldn't like Tonakoi.
I don't remember why, but I thought that was a shitposter trolling me.

I've been considering White Album, Baldr Sky, or Cartagra, but Evenicle could be good too, so I'll add it to the list.

My Anki performance has been really shit lately, so I've been kind of bummed. That is probably more to blame for my lack of reading than Tonakoi is. I haven't even read it enough to know if I like it or not.

>>142170996
Are they acting retarded?

Yes \
No -- It's a shitpost.

>>142170401
to use -n desu after a na-adjective, you must include the 'na'. similarly for a noun you should include a 'na'.
おまんこが好きなんだ
おまんこが最高なんだ

何かなんでなの何とだろうの。。。

>>142171891
え？

Did Sakura just get unbanned? I suppose it was naive of me to assume this peace would last.

>>142171891
僕はキメ顔でそう言った

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>>142172050
>僕はキメ顔でそう言った

>>142171042
I dunno.

I'd expect that applying what you've learned helps you get to DOK 3/4 understanding even if you're not good at it.

>アルバイト
This is supposed to be engrish, right?

What word is it engirsh for?
I'm normally good at figuring this shit out, but this one's got me stumped.

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>>142172731
It's German.

>>142172731
German. Arbeit.

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>>142172734

>>142172879
Man, the authors are savage.

>>142172734
>>142172879
slightly related; does anything have that picture of youtube commenters' japanese?

>>142172731
Not all loan words come from English. Quite a lot come from Dutch and Portuguese:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_Japanese_words_of_Dutch_origin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_Japanese_words_of_Portuguese_origin

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>>142173036
Got your back anon, meme 満載.

>>142173137
Nice, thanks

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>>142173115
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_Japanese_words_of_Dutch_origin
Holy fuck, I never realised how much vocabulary Dutch shared with English. I knew they were similar languages but I didn't expect that half the vocabulary was practically the same. That explains this picture.

>>142173292
>UK not 100%
さすがアラビア人移民たち

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>>142173137
>I've been learning Japanese for almost a month now professionally, and I know how to read the Hiragana (I can't write it...

>>142173358
アラーが侮辱する人を首を切りまして！

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>>142173137
>tfw your japanese is better than every person in that pic

>>142173584
アラーは豚小屋でデブ豚に強姦されている

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>>142173358
I would say it's 99.9% outside of a few places like London, Bradford and Birmingham. It's not just Arabs that are the problem, it's the continental riff-raff too.

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>ですやん
what the fuck is that

>>142173760
random cutely emphasis adding gobi

>>142173824
interesting

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I just spent an entire weekend not studying the language for the first time ever.

How fucked am I?

>>142173990
反省しろ

I find that, aside from a few stupid mnemonics, I only really know the words I know because I drill them into my memory. I find it hard to form any larger understanding to the words compared to studying a language that shares things with English. Am I doing this wrong? Does anyone feel the same way?

>>142173990
お前がやったこと、全部お見通しだ！

Little poll. pls answer
http://www.strawpoll.me/10347689

Any applications for Surface you would recommend? Some kind of OCR dictionary tool would be great, apparently I can't even install KT on this thing.

>>142174304
should have added a fuck no option

>>142174232
in the end exposure is the only way to obtain that knowledge
however it's also probably because you ignored the study kanji meme
kanji are the best doors to forming a deeper understanding of japanese vocabulary

>>142173584
アラーは毎日俺の肉棒をしゃぶる。

>>142173990
諦める方がいい

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>>142174380
>mfw I actually did ignore the study kanji meme
I just can't decide which method to use. WaniKani? RTK? A big Anki deck of kanji? What method do you use?

日本語は習うよりなめろ

>>142174662
日本語をなめるより俺のチンチンをなめて

why is there even a word for this
倒置法
体言止め

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>tfw gotta go back to basic grammar for a bit but don't want to

>>142174536
Not that guy but I've been using Kanjidamage for the past 3-4 months and it's been pretty good for me.

>>142174844
>verb
>predicate
why is there even a word for these

>>142174844
Not every word has a clear translation. What you should do when learning new words is to treat them like words in English. Don't simply memorize the translations of each word but rather understand each word's meaning and treat the word as its own word.

>>142174536
just get a radical deck

>>142175098
is core6k radical enough, or should I go for core10k?

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>>142175162
>is core6k radical enough, or should I go for core10k?
>is core6k radical enough
>radical enough
lol what the fuck

>>142174536
Don't fall for the kanji meme. Just learn kanji by studying vocabulary. You'll be more productive with your time that way instead of learning the characters and then learning the words.

>>142175162
Neither of those are radical enough. You need CorePLUS.

>>142169007
8555 Japanese sentences deck

I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't use any preset decks and just adds cards into a simple word-meaning deck whenever I come across a word that I don't know.

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仕事の後は犬とｈなことしてます

>>142175634
that's probably what everyone who already knows a fuckton of vocabulary does.

I'm just using Anki so idk.

>>142175742
*using core 6k

鶏肉の中でも安い胸肉をいかにおいしく食べるかを目的に実験を重ね工夫されたものであり、材料費が安い事も特徴である。

鶏肉の中でも安い胸肉を
Cheap even in terms of chicken its breast meat

をいかにおいしく食べるかを目的
aiming to make it rather tastily edible

実験を重ね工夫されたものであり
a item which is the success of accumulating experiments.


A item which aims to make cheap (even in terms of chicken) breast meat tasty, resulting from the success of multiple experiments.

Any comments or objections?

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>spend months religiously reading and doing Anki
>enjoy it
>out of nowhere start feeling incredibly burned out
>haven't read or done Anki properly in a week
T-this passes, right?

>>142175840
It comes and goes like seasonal depression. The trick is to not kill yourself until you 出来る.

>>142175840
YOU CANNOT LEARN JAPANESE

>>142175840
Only if you try.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc_UVpFayaw

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おはようおにいちゃん

>>142175818
まずまちがいなく「とりはむ」のことだね

はずかしながら、あたしもきょうつくったよ

>>142175840
>can read almost anything easily
>can't watch basic anime

>>142176427
タバコが体に悪いよ

>>142176427
シアン化物を吸い込め

>>142176427
くそ太っちょ妹ちゃん何も食べずにしんで方がいい

>>142175840
>difficult quarter of classes
>stop Anki and grammar dead for 2 months because i don't feel like doing anything with my free time
>have to take summer classes so there's only 1 month of break
S-shit I'm never going to learn Japanese.

>>142162958
If 後 doesn't have a の preceding it I think it's always pronounced as ご

>>142167491
Ｓｔｏｐ　ｕｓｉｎｇ　ｍｅｍｅｔｅｘｔ　ａｎｄ　ｂｅｉｎｇ　ａ　ｆａｇｇｏｔ，　ｆａｇｇｏｔ．

>>142174307
surface owner here.
Surface 1 is complete shit.
like the only good app i found was takoboto dictionary.

>>142176824
Nope, you can use あと sort of like a particle to indicate time relative to some action/clause such as:
晩ご飯を食べた後宿題をする。
bangohan wo tabeta ato shukudai wo suru
"Doing homework after eating dinner"

>>142176907
Ｈｏｗ　ｃａｎ　ａ　ｆａｇｇｏｔ　ｓｔｏｐ　ｂｅｉｎｇ　ａ　ｆａｇｇｏｔ？

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>>142176592
>>142176627
>>142176652
とりはむについてはなにもないんだね

もうおにいちゃんったら

>>142176558
>can watch almost anything easily
>can't read basic VNs without a dictionary

>>142177125
まだ生きてるのか？
うぜえよ、消えろ

>>142177180
I honestly don't believe anyone who says that unless by "watch" you mean "understand the 80% of words that are in Core2k."

>>142156336
I remember dropping by /r9k/ once and they had a pen pal general there.
I swear I was just visiting.

>>142177550
I hope you took a shower after you left to scrub the filth off.

>>142177627
It never washed off.

>>142177550
did you at least bring back some rare pepes

>Finally decided to took the J-CAT.
>Confirmed that I 出来ない

Guess I gotta try harder.or kill myself.

>>142177927
They're dry now.

>>142177986
Post your scores

>>142177986
I suggest the latter.

>>142177986
>decided to took
You can NOT learn 英語

>>142178185
edgy

>>142176930
Yeah, I can't do much with it. So far the only Japanese related use I found for it was reading raws with Cover. I never had this kind of device before so I'm slowpoking on how comfy it is to be able to read anything anywhere without having to carry around a bunch of books.
>takoboto dictionary
>works offline
Neat. Thank you good man.

>>142177986
You can't kill yourself.

自殺したい

>>142178443
応援してるぞ~

がんば~

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むねにくはおいしくないけど

とってもおもとめやすいの

１００グラム２９えんぜいぬきだよ

>>142178443
電車の前に飛び込めばその願いは適う

>>142178523
むねさわっていい？

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>>142177986
>>142178053
J-CAT Score

>>142178225
Oh I apparently ended up mixing both sentences I wrote before pressing Post but whatever, in the end it's still a fucked up post, so as it is even with 英語 I just 出来ない.

>>142177986
>take sample questions
>doesn't tell me how I did
I want my 20 minutes back.

>>142178783
Just do the full test, takes 30-60 minutes

ツイッターには、最寄りのＡＴＭはいつも不具合になっているとあきらめきった書き込みもインド人ユーザーから寄せられた。


ツイッターには、
On twitter,
最寄りのＡＴＭはいつも不具合になっているとあきらめきった書き込み
Comments of nearby ATM is always broken, and have given up
も
have also
インド人ユーザーから寄せられた。
from indian users have gathered.

Restructuring a bit:
"On twitter comments from Indian users of nearby ATMs being always broken, and given up (trying to use the ATM) have also gathered".

Did I dun good?

>>142165108

RTK is the best pre-made resource (from which KD was largely ripped off without attribution), although it isn't perfect.

zhongwen.com is good for folk etymologies when the RTK mnemonics don't work for you, but it's based on simplified Chinese (吐).

>>142165108
>what's a good source for radical / kanji mnemonics?
Your brain, where they are supposed to come from.

Why were Korea and Vietnam able to get rid of kanji successfully, while the Japanese still cling to them?

>>142179687
They only got rid of the glyphs. Half of the Vietnamese words are still Chinese

>>142179687
Vietnam got colonized, and Korea had their crazy elegant new system. Besides, Japanese is one of the fastest languages to read once you get good.

>>142165842

Wow.

Okay, first problem is 開方 is a typo. It should be 開放. 開方 is a mathematical term.

The second thing messing with is the fact that all the supplementary verbs are written with kanji. Very few people do that anymore. In fact, it's been officially deprecated by the Education Ministry.　Second, the word is つっかえ棒, not つっかい棒.

Anyway, the translation would be:

A prop is inserted into the (窓のレールの部分) so as to create an opening through which people cannot enter.

The window has been deliberately propped open, but not so much that anyone could pass through it.

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>>142179841
>Japanese is one of the fastest languages to read once you get good.

>>142179830

So why can't the Japs do that?

>>142179841

So.... The French fucked English, but fixed Vietnamese?

>>142179902
>fixed vietnamese

fuck no, vietnamese has a terrible writing system, but there's not much you can do when every word is a single syllable

>>142179902
>So.... The French fucked English, but fixed Vietnamese?
The Normans fucked English. They spoke French but were actually snowniggers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVXRYlAKI0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrIOv68OiOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD9fkqx9AEs

>>142166159

The fuck do you people get this shit?

The right box reads

糞喰い老人
澤田翁

>>142179881
That study's focus was on speaking, which is why it cares about syllabic rate. The mixture of kanji for meaning and hiragana for conjugation makes Japanese a fast read, even if individual sentences are low on information density.

>>142179687
Too few discrete pronunciations.

>>142179963

This feels like someone saying "No, it wasn't Americans who invaded Iraq, it was mostly people from Colorado and Utah".

>>142168013

焼鯖西京漬、味噌汁、奈良漬、紫蘇振掛付御飯。

Seriously. It's my favourite breakfast.

>>142180072
In a time when people didn't move around nearly as much within their own country, yes. I'm not going to blame the southern territories of Mexico for its impact on our southern border.

I'm glad China buttfucked every of its neighbors back in the day tbqh. Makes studying other languages in the group really easy

>>142180072
The Normans were ethnically and culturally separate from the French. Watch the second video.

>>142180072
Nah, it's like saying that the Apache did it.

>>142180153
>>142180234

Well, more like Texas then, I guess.

>>142180116
I have to agree with you. The taste of hot miso soup first thing in the morning certainly is refershing. Also saba is godly.

>>142179902

>So why can't the Japs do that?

NONONONONONONO

The most important reason is it would cut off an entire living culture from its own literary corpus. Modern Japanese would be unable read a massive amount of excellent, classic literature.

Yes, it could be rewritten solely with kana, or even romaji, but the existence of a massive number of homonyms would make such an exercise completely pointless. Consider a simple sentence:

ひょうをみた。

What did I see?

A leopard 豹?
Hail 雹?
A chart 表?
A ballot 票?

And that is a relatively simple example. The vast majority of homonyms are nouns, all the same part of speech, so a simple word like

こうこう

could potentially mean, according just to my スーパー大辞林, one of forty-fucking-two things. Then there is the complexity and beauty of phenomena like 同訓意義.

しゃしんをとった。

Did I snap the picture? 撮る
Did I steal the picture? 盗る
Did I grab the picture? 執る
Did I pick up the picture? 取る

The occupation authorities actually toyed around with the idea of abolishing kanji, but were fortunately talked out of it.

The squiggles aren't going anywhere. In fact, the trend has been inexorably toward using more kanji, not fewer. The last update to the 常用漢字表 added over 200 characters (including guys like 鬱) while deleting only 5.

They are here to stay, and it's a good thing, too.

>>142179687

I should mention that kanji have been integrated into Japanese in a way and to an extent not ever present on Korean or Vietnamese. Specifically, the latter two tongues used the hanzi almost entirely for the purpose of writing Chinese loanwords. Using them on the basis of their meanings (for example, an English speaker could pronounce aloud the sentence 我愛猫 as "I love cats", or a French speaker the same sentence as "J'aime les chats") is something only Japanese did.

>>142180360

Saba is awesome raw or cooked. The only bad thing about 〆鯖 is you'll be burping up mackerel for the rest of the day. Broiled saba doesn't have that drawback.

>started learning Japanese today
>began the day knowing nothing about the language's writing system/pronounciation
>end the day knowing the first 35 characters of Hiragana and pronounciations

I feel pretty proud of myself. It was brutal but I really do love this language.

>>142181192

After one day?

This isn't just your honeymoon phase; this is your honeymoon night and you are even now balls-deep in her. Enjoy it while it lasts, broski.

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>>142178597
いけませんわ

>>142181192
wait till you start grinding hundreds of thousands of kanji and vocab

>>142181284
>>142181249
I am looking forward to it.

This is nothing like English, and only some pronounciations are similar to Spanish. I enjoy challenging myself with something this different from what i'm used to.

>>142181491

Good attitude, anon. I hope it remains interesting and fun for you.

i love kanji

>>142181491
>Spanish
Reminder it's impossible for anyone with a first language other than English to learn Japanese using the resources we have available, since they (Tae Kim, Genki, Core6k, edict etc.) all require a native-level understanding of English.

Does the girl in the OP have a name?
Are there lewds of her?

Will I feel like a dumbass if I read the guide and see that this question has been asked enough to warrant the answer being there?

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>>142182477
>lewds of dekinaichan

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おにいちゃん

すいぞくかんいこ

>>142183079
だめた、さめがこわいに過ぎる

>>142181116
do you like 味噌煮
wtf am i supposed to do about 吸い物 when i make misoni? I dont want no miso soup with that.

>>142183079
としょかんいこ

ビッチ先生どこ...

whats the Japanese for "smug anime girl face"

顎の無精ひげの感触から、手入れをして十七時間前後。おそらくは午後十時前後だと思われる。

From feeling my beard, putting my hand in its been about 17 hours. I fear its ~ 10PM i think.


What is 前後 here? around? Why をして?

>>142183401

I prefer some kind of clear soup, maybe with a little 三つ葉 when I make misoni.

Gah, now I'm hungry. I'm gonna pop out to the supa.

>>142183469
独り善がりなアニメ少女の顔

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>>142183469
ドヤ顔

>>142183705
Well this is the best thing I've learned all day.

>>142183590

Verbalised nouns like 手入れ often end up taking を even when they can be used as, for example, 手入れする. The precise nuance is unclear but not great. 手入れ(を)する means to do maintenance, or trim.

The して here is indicated that he performed his ていれ -- in other words, shaved -- and that 13 hours, give or take (前後) has passed since that time. Remember that て has its roots in the classical auxilliary perfective つ, and therefore carries a nuance of past, or completion.

Does that help?

>>142183590

Also, 無精髭 is "stubble", not "beard". That further clarifies that he is usuallly clean-shaven and that 手入れ refers to the act of shaving.

>>142180041
the study is also objectively wrong

they were comparing incredibly bad translations

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>>142183705
じゃ、何これ

>>142183766
ok i dident spot a verb indicating that time passed, is this implicit?

The bit on て is interesting, i did not know it implies completion.

>>142184014
>is this implicit?
yes

>>142156135
What's your favourite word? Mines "立派" because it makes the characters sound like Australians shouting "you rippa!"