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Only 4 hours and half for Purple Vegeta part 2, are you hype for it?
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No one is still watching that shit
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>>142115071
Leave it to Toei to shit on Vegeta even more.
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>>142115071
why did barney and vegeta fuse
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>>142115071

only Piccolo can win against purple Vegeta
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that thing is a purple vegeta

the villain this time? vegeta again

but this time, purples

purple vegeta

japanese boys never had it so good
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>>142115071
gt was better than this
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>>142115463
They will, just wait until June 12th
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>>142115071
Why is he purple
What is this shitty show
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>>142115522

Thanks doc.
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Xenoverse did Purple Evil Vegeta better.
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>>142118428
Hahahahahahhahaha what the fuck man
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>>142115071
This is a fucking fan fiction
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I should had put more work on it
Maybe someone else will do that
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>>142115071

>purple vegeta is the only thing they can think of

They're running out of ideas. Also when are the dubs out? I'm not watching it without the dubs.
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Im an avid Dragon Ball Super fanbotly shit poster. That shit made me consider dropping it.
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>>142115071
goku looks like absolute trash in this still, holy hell
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I'm colorblind, what color is Vegeta?
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>>142119238
Obligatory thanks doc
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>>142115071
Don't worry I'll take care of him.
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>purple
>vegeta
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I love how Toei just continues to spit in the face of its fans and they eat it up.

>Recolored Goku
>Recolored Vegeta(Blue Version)
>Recolored Goku(Blue Version)
>Recolored Freiza
>Re-Recolored Vegeta(Evil)
>Incoming Re-Recolored Goku(Evil)

Atleast GT had enough respect for the fans to DESIGN something
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>>142115071

It's a shonen with a long overextended plot and power creep. What did you guys even expect? Even if it still had heart to it, the execution would remain clumsy
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>PURPLE
>VEGETA
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I don't get how this can posible be suspensful, I don't watch Super but weve seen Goku fight Evil Vegeta MULTIPLE times already.

>Saiyan Saga Vegeta
>Majin Vegeta
>Baby Vegeta

And now he's fighting a purple Vegeta. What can possibly be interesting about Fighting a copy Vegeta?

It's not like either of them have anything new to show.
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https://uptobox.com/4vvh99gpkds6
dbz recaps 54-162
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>>142115071
Just fuck already
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I´m not watching DBS, the fuck is this?
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>>142115071
Just.
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>>142117625

Magical goo drained his energy and copied him.
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>>142121588

You don't get it anon. Goku is suffering from uncontrolled Ki from the tournament. THIS time he might lose!
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Daily reminder that Dragon Ball is Sonic the hedgehog tier of shit and you should feel ashamed of liking this garbage.

Also, Goku talks like a retard and a faggot.
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>>142121346
>Atleast GT had enough respect for the fans to DESIGN something
Eh, GT had some terrible designs that didn't make sense any way you would spin it as well as those rehashed stories.
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stream link?
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>>142123462
http://vaughnlive.tv/wgg100
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many thanks >>142123484
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10 minutes left people.
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im ready
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10 minutes right? I'm gonna cut a slice of good boy cake
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What is 'black Goku'?

Can I find out next time?
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>>142124818
we don't know what exactly is black goku right now

but i have seen people theorize that it is probably masked bardock from dragon ball heroes
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WE DORAGON BOORU NOW
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Is it time for THAT ad yet?
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>>142124923
I hope we get to see them pull the rope this week!
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>>142124818
>What is 'black Goku'?
We don't know. The only thing we do know is that it isn't really Goku.
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>>142124973
You're a big Saiyan
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>>142125046
4u
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>>142124961
There it is!
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Disney randu commercials
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>>142124973
>>142124867
>>142124818
Time Breaker Bardock.

They're combining storylines from Heroes and Xenoverse into a brand new storyline for Super.

Trunks coming back means Time Patrol Trunks, which means Time Breaker Bardock and Demigra.
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>>142125127
>Trunks coming back means Time Patrol Trunks
Which is pretty obvious when you consider that Trunks' new design has him wearing the same sweater that Time Patrol Trunks wears under his coat.
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we live now
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WOOOOOOOOOOO
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oh nice there was a 4D dragon abll movie commercial
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Oh shit, forgot that we /gotenks/ today

I'm suddenly more excited
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>>142125282
It is something, but I can't quite get excited for filler like this.
At least episode 16(?) with the alien visitors was funny.
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>>142125322
Eh, it could be worse.
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How long until we get a Vegoota doujin with tentacle rape?
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>>142125411
thanks doc
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>>142125411
Look at that bulge, you just know he's plowing Bulma.
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>>142125463
He doesn't have genitals

as far as I can tell
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So is Black Goku actually just going to be a slime that survived and has some of Goku's power?
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>>142115071
>Vegeta punches Beerus
>Whoa, Vegeta was stronger than Goku!
>Vegeta goes SSB
>Guys DBS is Vegeta's time to shine!
>U6 tournament
>Finally, Vegeta is getting the attention he deserves!
>SSBKaiokenX10
>I-it's okay he can still learn Kaioken right?
>Rekt by purple slime clone, clone gets killed by Goku
>D-doushio...
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>>142121150
Do it fgt
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>>142125548
No, because Black Goku is in Trunks' time. He's the reason Trunks has to flee back to the past again.
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>>142125548
no, black goku is from another timeline with future trunks
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>>142125529
Stay mad Vegeta.
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Jesus Tapdance Fucking Christ everybody, it's a 2-3 filler arc. Could you calm down? Could you!?
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>>142125652
That reminds me, seeing as the manga is essentially advertising for the anime now, how are we determining filler?
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>>142125652
>Filler

Super is not an adaptation. There is no filler.
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>Purple Evil Vegeta is better than i expect
Holy shit
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>>142125703
>That reminds me, seeing as the manga is essentially advertising for the anime now, how are we determining filler?
Stuff that isn't in Toriyama's outline, like this arc obviously isn't (none of the new characters here have Toriyama lineart).
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>>142125703
>how are we determining filler?
The manga runs off Toriyama's script too, but doesn't need to be padded out to keep a timeslot, so it's safe to say that anything not in the manga is filler.
We'll just have to wait until it catches up to certain parts to find out what is/isn't filler.
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>>142125813
Thing is, the manga omits some parts in DBS like Vegeta cooking for Whis in order to get training as well as inserting it's own spin on events.
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>A copy of base Vegeta completely outclasses Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks

Well, okay.
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>>142125962
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>>142126013
This surprises you how?
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Evil Vegeta defies his master count - 3 out of 4
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>>142126013
It took all of his power you know
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>>142126013
>this surprises you
it was obvious it would, with veggie having god form
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Are Goten and Trunks really so weak they can't even beat base Vegeta?
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>>142125731
Everything is filler since day one, except tournament arc
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>Vegeta dies in 2 minutes
>see you next week
Thank you Namek
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>>142126103
No, literally nothing is filler. Stop using words you don't understand.
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>>142126013
whis has literally been training up goku and vegetas base forms
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>>142126074
Well, I mean, Gotenks should at least be able to do something, you know? He got shitstomped harder than Satan did against Cell.
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>>142126095
They are kids, you know.
And base Vegeta has gone way up in power since the Buu saga.
I mean, SS2 vegeta was on par with SS3 Goku in BoG, and he's only gotten stronger.
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>>142126188
Will they ever get strong?
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>>142126183
How is this surprising?
It's literally the equivalent of Goku's first match with Beerus.
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>>142125731
You could say it's an adaption of AT's script just as the manga is. We can't really say what's filler and what's not. We can't tell if how cose to the script the manga is without seeing the script either.
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>>142126144
it is obviously filler

tori would never write something like copy vegeta
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>>142126095
Base Goku after absorbing the ki of Super Saiyan God did better in base against Beerus than SSJ3 Goku. Vegeta attained a similar level by training with Whis. I was actually fearing that they'd forget all that, but what happened this episode lines up perfectly with the previous arcs/movies.
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>>142125731
That's not what filler means you stupid fuck. Filler means anything that exists simply to pad the show on until the main plot picks up

This is obviously filler. Stop being a retard. Hell the majority of the fanbase even knows it, seeing how dead the threads for these recent episodes have been compared to the tournament
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>>142126214
>future Trunks and Goten slack off more than Gohan
Nope.
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Why the fuck is Goku taking so long to even start fighting purple Vegeta?
Goku cant beat Vegeta in the NEP?I guess Vegeta has been hiding some progress then,he probably has to tell Goku at some point how to counter it or demand he goes ssjg with kaoiken to end it before Vegeta dissapears.
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>>142126214
Unless Toriyama plans on rewriting Z's epilogue, no. They're supposed to slack off and become weak as they grow up.
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So, since this is the whole point of the game, we can finally start expecting SSB Vegito soon, right?
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>>142126231
You're an idiot.
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>>142126263
Goku isn't even going SSJ. He's basically messing around to have a fight on copy Vegeta's level.
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-Purple Vegeta is such a cool bad guy! Why wont anyone pick him?! C'mon be Purple Vegeta!
-Fuck you I'm already Black Goku, you be Purple Vegeta
-Fuck that I'm Gold Freiza!
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>>142126291
>Vegito
>In a game about fusion dances
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>>142115071

Vegeta's groin is creeping me out
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>>142126257
>Filler means anything that exists simply to pad the show on until the main plot picks up
Filler means anything that is NOT in the original material that exists to pad out the show.
You can't just call arcs you don't like "filler", you stupid shit.
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>>142126311
Yeah i hate that shit.
At least Gotenks got to the point right away this time. Makes me wonder why the hell he didnt go ssj3 against Freeza.
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>no bulma this episode
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>>142126257
>Filler means anything that exists simply to pad the show on until the main plot picks up
Filler is material made to pad the story so the animated adaptation doesn't reach or pass the comic/manga/script, not whatever you said.
Seeing as things aren't taking the same route as before we can't exactly call this filler unless we see the original works.
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why is it so hard for anons to understand that this is just filler

it doesn't affect anything, it doesn't count,please stop complaining about it
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>>142126013
you are now aware that goku and vegeta can now beat super buu in their base form
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>>142124818
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>>142126345
No it isn't you fucking retard. That's just what retards like you think it means because it's commonly used for non canon material

Filler is just content used to fill out time/episodes until the meat of the story picks up. It doesn't automatically mean non-canon you dipshit.
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>>142126324
>implying we won't get Vegeto as a separate character to fuse with others because Potara is permanent
>tfw not coming to the west.
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>>142126414
Powercreep gets ridiculous sometimes

Dragon Ball is one very obvious example
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>>142125127
How the hell does he get so strong?
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>>142126459
To be fair, going beyond your limits has always been a theme in Dragonball.
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>>142126231
Tori itself is a filler

t. Akira Fillerama
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>>142126459
each one of them is probably as strong as vegeto now
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>>142126463
Towa experiments on him. It's the reason she needs the mask to control him; her experimentation has made him too strong for her to control with her magic alone like she does with everyone else.
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>>142126398
Because they're dumb as fuck.
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>>142126463
Heroes doesn't give a fuck about power levels and just does whatever's cool.

In a sense, everyone is equal in strength no matter what.
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>>142126537
When he takes of that mask will he die?
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>>142126463
Most likely how Demigra? did to him in Heroes and Xenoverse. Idk how i havent played much of Xenoverse. The mashing gameplay isnt my thing. BT4/SPARKING Comet when????
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>>142122483
Why would purple vegeta be any different to regular vegeta then?
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>>142126536
>each one of them is probably as strong as vegeto now
They're way beyond that.

Kind of makes you wonder how terrifyingly powerful Vegeto would be if they fused now.
I mean, Whis said they would probably be enough to take on Beerus if they teamed up.
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>>142126583
No, he turns super saiyan 3.
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>>142126625
Well he isnt in terms of power.
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>>142126583
No, he'll turn Super Saiyan 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m21qL33D0g
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>>142126463
Demon magic.
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>>142125046
WAKU ME APU INUSIDU
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>>142126670
>>142126641
He has big hair
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>>142126636
I'm ready. I can feel it coming, provided they're not doing Potara.
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>>142126013
Vegeta[U6] = Goku [U6] >Goku [RoF]>=4th Form Frieza[RoF]>1st Form Frieza[RoF]>Gohan (SSJ)[RoF]>Captain Ginyu[RoF]>=Gohan (Potential Unlocked) [Buu] >Gotenks (SSJ3) [Buu]
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>>142126670
>>142126641
wtf i thought u guys were just fucking with me
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>>142126781
You forgot Golden Frieza
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>>142126781
Golden Frieza needs to be above RoF Goku
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>>142126463
He trained, for 5 months :^)
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>>142125098
can you post ytlink?
I didnt bother to watch the stream but i keep hearing about that commercial.
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>>142126811
First rule of Heroes, anything and everything can happen in Heroes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6mGcnQDSgM
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>>142126818
>>142126825
I know, I was just comparing Vegeta vs SSJ3 Gotenks
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>>142126897
>anything and everything can happen in Heroes
Except Nappa/Raditz/King Vegeta getting any form of Super Saiyan.
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>>142126941
Fair point
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>>142126941
how would you even turn nappa into a super sayajin?
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>>142127018
Yellow tail, mustache and eyebrows
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>>142127018
His head glows.
SS2 his head gets sparkly.
SS3 he gets a buzzcut.
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>>142127018
DBO had bald grow a mohawk when they go Super Saiyan
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>>142127119
>SSJ3 Raditz
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>>142125529
He has them in his face
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There's like no tension whatsoever. "Vegeta will vanish in minutes unless you beat the evil clone!"

Everyone proceeds to joke around and smile during the fight, Goku's laughing and not even going SSJ
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man i wish i could play dragon ball heroes


the have everything

well at least we have xenoverse and soon xenoverse 2
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>>142127236
To be fair there aren't many people on his level and we know that Kaioken gives Goku an unfair advantage.
There's no real reason for the situation to be like that.
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>>142127277
>xenoverse 2
Can't come soon enough. Hoping we at least get more info on new additions to the roster at E3, if not another trailer.
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>>142127340
It's still a pipe dream for me to expect local multiplayer isn't it?
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>>142127340
honestly if they have saiyans able to have actual tails or even just an accessory, and have going ssj spike your hair i'll be ecstatic
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>>142127340
WHERE IS TAINO
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>>142127393
xenoverse had local multiplayer but can't select other create-a-characters which made local shitty
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>>142127393
Nope. They've dropped PS360 support, so local multiplayer and longer-lasting environment destruction is back on the table.
Just gotta hope enough people asked for it in that survey Bamco sent out months ago.
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>>142127438
>They've dropped PS360 support
Now if only Bamco could do that with Tale of Games with their PS3 versions.
And give Digimon Games a budget higher than a Neptunia game
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>>142127438
>Just gotta hope enough people asked for it in that survey Bamco sent out months ago.
This is 2016.
Hardly anyone wants local anymore.
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>>142127340
>you can bring over data from the past game


damn i need to buy xenoverse during the next steam sale
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>>142125845
oppa gangam style
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is there a torrent yet?
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>>142127340
>You can bring over data from the past game
>I played it on PS3, one of the consoles it's not coming to
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>>142128101
I can relate anon.
At least we can recreate them.
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>>142127340
Pls let me make a fit buu this time, or a Janemba-esque demon.
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>>142127340
>DATA FROM THE PAST GAME

JAPAN, YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN YOU ABSOLUTE MADMEN.
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>>142127340
So we're going to be fighting alongside/saving Future Gohan vs the androids? That's pretty sweet desu
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>>142115071
Hype? I don't know about all that, but Vegeta is undefeated against Goku.
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>>142128101
>PS3
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>>142128841
This image needs updating to the PS4.
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>>142128876
Both jokes are equally wrong.
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>>142128876
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>>142128905
Nah, the PS4 doesn't have shit for good games on it at the moment just like the early PS3.
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>>142129033
In all fairness, you can give it Bloodborne and Uncharted 4.
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>>142129254
Eh, Bloodborne is just medieval Souls and Uncharted has never been good.
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>>142126772
Then that would be Gogeta.
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If that makes you feel better, prince of jobbers
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>Goten and Trunks filler episode turns into ANOTHER GOKU AND VEGETA PUNCHING ADVENTURE
>Gotenks appears only to get blown the fuck out completely.

Remind me how this is betterer than GT.
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>>142129448
Is that a pacifier?
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>>142129334
Uncharted has never been great (particularly with regards to its shitty shooting segments) but it's objectively good. To satisfy anyone's autism: objectively in the sense of reviews, curators, sales and relative to contemporary competition.

I only played two of them before I got bored, but still. If I had a PS4 I might pick it up to help justify the purchase.
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>>142129452
For starters is Goku and Vegeta as opposed to just Goku.
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>>142129452
>GT version
>Trunks: Hey goten let's fuse to defeat that shitty clone
>Goku: No, that won't work against him, give me energy instead
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>>142129553
>reviews, curators, sales and relative to contemporary competition.
So, it's not good but only perceived as good.
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>>142129612
They're well crafted, beautiful games with amazing showcase sequences, some fun characterization, superfluous climbing, and shit cover based shooting.
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>>142129750
Thing is, what use is the visual aspects when the game fails to be a good game? Ideally there should be a middle ground where we can have both.
Anyway this is more /v/ discussion.
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>>142129524
Yes. It's the key that kept the water sealed away. It'll probably keep Vegeta stable for longer while Goku fights Copy-Veg because reasons.
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>>142129448
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>>142115071
>no english subs till tomorrow morning
fucking hell
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>>142129864
lol spanish subs should be up in like 30-40 min
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>>142129887
You know, even though i know spanish, i detest watching anime or fapping to doujins in it. Why the hell do spanish subs go ahead of english ones anyways?
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>>142115071
>Grape Vegeta can use tentacles
kek
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>>142119238
Thanks doc
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>>142129946
because latin america is full of weabos
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>>142128101
They'll just do like Phantom Pain PS4 and Xbone versions did for Ground Zeroes PS3 and X360.
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>>142129887
spanish subs are up
http://jkanime.net/dragon-ball-super/45/
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>>142129864
this episode was pretty boring
fucking nothing happened
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>>142129584
>For starters is Goku and Vegeta as opposed to just Goku.

Ah, so that's the missing link in what makes GT so much worse, not enough Vegeta circlejerking.


Even though SUPER makes him play second fiddle to Goku anyway.
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>>142129946
Because they just guess what the characters said and call it a day.
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>>142115071
is there any moment this show doesn't look like absolute shit? Every screenshot I see from this looks like complete fucking crap in some way
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>>142130035
I remember growing up watching it in spanish, chi chi was called "milk" because "chichi" is slang for tits.
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>>142130026
>Even though SUPER makes him play second fiddle to Goku anyway.
Well duh, Goku is the face of the franchise. Find me a series that doesn't do that.

Anyway, Vegeta plays a more prominent role and jobs less. I mean, his biggest role in GT was when he was being controlled by someone else.
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>>142115071
>haven't watched since episode 20
>Purple Vegeta
what the fuck has happened to this show?
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>>142115071
Is this really what DB has been reduced to? Fucking fruity pebble ass vegeta?
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>>142130241
Vegeta had his powers absorbed by a slime like being that took his appearance too.. I guess they're trying to show them fucking up a lot so later they can "learn from their flaws"
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>>142130241
Universe 6 vs Universe 7
Super Dragonballs and TTGL Dragon.
Vegeta getting his power sapped by goo which then turned into a goo clone.

That's about it.
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>>142125363
Why does Vegeta looks like it's straight out of season 1 of Jojo?

>>142125962
why can't toei draw people from far away and make their faces look at least sorta decent?

>>142126001
take it back, they can't even draw faces that are close without them looking weird somehow like Goku's on this one
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>>142130344
Toei is hiring amateur animators that's what and leaving the good ones for the big jobs.
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>>142115071
Another filler episode. I loved the Pan filler, but this looks not that interesting honestly...

I guess the anime is waiting for the manga to catch up, which is wierd since it's usually the other way around.

Just a few episodes until the canon episodes start, with the new Future Trunks arc.
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>>142130241
It's a filler arc stop bitching. The only thing that matters is you missed a tournament between Universe 6 and 7.

The next main arc will be Future Trunks returning
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>>142129448
So is this a reference to Baby?
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>>142130431
Looks closer to Demigra possessed Vegeta.
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>>142130389
F. Trunks vs Time Breaker Bardock ("Goku Black")

Finally the arc that will save DBS from being GT-tier
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Watch "Goku Black" literally just be African Goku
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>>142130499
>Finally the arc that will save DBS from being GT-tier
It's already passed GT though.
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>>142130523
bu thatswracist
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>>142130523
It's literally not even Goku. "Goku" is just being used as a description.
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>>142130538
japan does not give a fuck
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>>142130535
If you count DBS as: BoG + RoF (the movies) + U6 Tournament

Then yes, it already surpassed GT.

But if you're counting the BoG+RoF re-tellings...then it's still only GT tier
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>>142130582
They will.
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>>142130562
Exactly. It can't be Goku.

Goku has been dead in F.Trunks timeline for god knows how long.

Piccolo is dead, so no DBs, and no Dende to lead them to New Namek.

There's no way Goku just came back to life in his timeline, and all of the sudden is evil.
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[Insert Frodo picture here] Why don't Goku fight Vegeta seriously and after one almost die, they eat the senzuu bean to zenkai boost?
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>>142130590
Eh, I don't count the retellings as Super but it's still beyond GT because it didn't start off with a rehashed DB arc or power anyone down.
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>>142130679
zenkai boosts are for early on in a saiyans development.
After they unlock SS, it doesn't really happen, since their body is already used to much more power
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>>142130670
Well if the plot wants to be retarded then it can claim it's a clone of goku. DBZ did androids so why not clones. After all Goku was inherently violent and dangerous when he was a small child found by his grandpa. Goku hit his head, lost his memory (?) and became peaceful. A clone could be evil.
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>>142130724
Zenkai happens whenever a Saiyan is near death anon.
Simple fact of the matter is that they either forgot or don't want to use it because it's overpowered.
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>>142130800
>Clone-Goku is literally Broly

Make it happen, Toyota.
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>>142130800
Please no, because then we'll enter GT territories of rehashing.
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>>142130670
It's less to do with that (especially with Super going full alternate timelines/universes; it could just be an alt Goku) and more to do with how Toriyama wrote "Goku" in his announcement.
It was written in katakana and not kanji like Goku's name usually is, meaning it's intended to be pronounced the same, but not mean the same. Hence being a decription of a Goku-like character rather than Goku himself.
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>>142130691
And GT give out ridiculous power scales such as having a fucking minion's strength "stronger than Majin Buu"

And Pan was able to fight him without becoming SS. Bullshit.

Or making Base GT Goku = SS3 Goku (DBZ). When he couldn't even hold the SS3 form himself...meanwhile Gotenks had no problem doing so.

OR ANDROID 17 + Another 17 = SS4-tier
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>it's another 5 minutes last 5 episodes episode
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>>142130914
Don't forget
>Uub breaking the tournament rules
>Vegeta only making one worth while appearance
>having a tail means you're instantly accustomed to the new form without training
>everything to do with Sugoro and his space named after him that wasn't actually made by him
>Blutz Waves
>Shadow dragons
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>>142115071
vegeta in his 20's is best vegeta. Drummond owns all
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>>142115071
Why is he purple?
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>>142131091
>Uub was supposed to be the second coming of Goku. He was treated like fodder in GT, even after fusing with Buu.

>They absolutely killed Goten. Trunks was pretty useless. Marron was even more useless.

>Piccolo didn't do shit except die.

>Krillin didn't do shit except die.

>Was Tien even present in GT?

>SS "4" when you can be just any Saiyan exposed to Blutz Waves. Can literally skip SS1 to SS4

>SS4 magic pants

>Kid Goku thoughout the ENTIRE show was inexcusable.

>Final villain had a boring personality and it's design was fucking ugly.
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>>142131166
It's not Vegeta.

Some filler about an alien taking Vegeta's DNA or some shit.

Next episode is Goku vs Alien (filler), and then the Future Trunks arc starts.
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>>142131242
This
>>SS4 magic pants
and this
>>Kid Goku thoughout the ENTIRE show was inexcusable.
Were absolutely inexcusable.

For starters SS4 didn't only have growing pants but an entire clothes storage system where it teleported Goku and Vegeta's clothes off somewhere.

As for Kid Goku throughout the entire series as a kid I wondered, "why didn't they just go to a dead planet and wish him an adult again?" It's just a quick IT to one of the Kais and a search and they're done.
Oh yeah and King Kai was shafted hard.
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I WANT PICTURES OF MIRAI TRUNKS
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>>142131479
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>>142131510
muh dick
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This episode won't be in the manga (where Toriyama is assisting Toyble), and therefore not canon.
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>>142131691
I ended up skipping forward about halfway through until they became Gotenks.
This episode was boring as hell.
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DBS has a manga running along side it while airing (with Toriyama's assistance no less)

That alone makes it better than GT
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>>142131691
The manga doesn't have the other SoL episodes we know aren't filler and only go over the important arcs more often than not adding in or changing parts of the story. On top of that the anime is considerably further along than the manga.
Judging by this we can come to the conclusion that the manga isn't canon.
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>>142131691
Ironic that the author of the infamous Dragonball AF doujin artist is now making the Dragonball Super manga.
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>>142129847

defeated by lasers and suckerpunch
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What the fuck
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>>142131846
The manga skipped through parts of BoG and the entirety of RoF, because people already watched the movies.

Toriyama supervises the manga, and goes over every chapter with Toyble.

If anything, it's more canon than the anime which only uses Toriyama's rough drafts and expand on it
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>>142129847
>Goku jobbed to Vegeta
>Gohan jobbed to Buu
>Vegeta jobbed to Buu
Vegeta truly is the prince of all jobbers.
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>>142131691
>>142131807
Does Toriyama actually draw anything, though? His art is god-tier.
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>>142132021
No only Toyble. Toriyama just goes over the story with him.
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>>142131958
RoF got it's own manga
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>>142132058
Yes it does, it's called Volume F.

Done by Toyble/Toriyama as well. However, it was made before DBS aired.
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>>142131958
>The manga skipped through parts of BoG and the entirety of RoF, because people already watched the movies.
As well as several other segments that set up the story in Super.

>Toriyama supervises the manga, and goes over every chapter with Toyble.
Tori doesn't actually look at the manga up until the final release so there's a degree of creative liberties Toyble has.

>it's more canon than the anime which only uses Toriyama's rough drafts and expand on it
They both do the same thing in the sense that they use Tori's rough drafts and have them expand on it however because of the monthly publication of the manga Toyble can't get it all in so he has to summarize to a degree, which is why the manga currently has an extremely fast pace.
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>>142132220
>As well as several other segments that set up the story in Super.
Such as?

Not saying you're wrong, but genuinely curious.
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When are we getting an new opening?
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>>142115071
>purple vegeta
are they doing this on purpose or something
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>>142133228
I dont know, remember DBZ only had two different openings, and DB only one.
>>142133298
>Green sky
>Purple Vegeta
Probably
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>>142125363
Is it me or Vegeta's head is smaller than usual?
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When's Goku going to fight a female villain?
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>>142133228
when the new arc arrives.
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>>142133298
>>142133350
thanks doc
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>>142134439
Next arc.
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>>142132220
>Tori doesn't actually look at the manga up until the final release so there's a degree of creative liberties Toyble has.
Adding to this, he also has really liked the changed Toyble has put in there. Hell, he's on record as saying he wouldn't mind Toyble putting in more of his own ideas.

Toyble is the fanboy every DB fanboy wishes they were.
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>>142131510
this does things to me

things that I'm not sure I like
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>>142119238
Thanks doc.
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>>142125046
Is that Turles?
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>>142136807
Bardock, actually.
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>>142126249
which is the reason why these episodes aren't filler
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>>142126736
For you.
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>>142130241
You should watch the rest anon, it's fun.
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>>142122537
>THIS time he might lose!
even when he loses he still wins
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>>142124818
evil goku, more than likely truffles
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>>142125554
https://youtu.be/g6zzA_qMWgo
everytime
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>>142131989
and Gohan is the king
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>>142136807
Time breaker bardock
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>>142126463
Wouldnt mind seeing SSj3 bardock vs Goku
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>>142138704

Goku has never beaten Vegeta in a fight before, though I'm sure he could.
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>>142122483
Is Vegeta okay?
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>>142115071
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Goku will win, but only because it isn't the real Vegeta, we all know Goku can't ever win against Vegeta.
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Is DBS's using a lower age rating than before? Is that why it's got no blood and uses low impace violence?
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>>142140392
DBS is meant for kids, unlike DBZ that was meant for teenagers.

If you wonder why it's so shit, it's because it's targeting 6-9 year olds. Toryiama has no doubts in his mind about this, when asked how it's going he just replied "I hope the kids will like it!".

Arguably so did the original DB but Tory wasn't senile back then.
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>>142115071
So why did Toi replace Goku's new outfit with his old gi again?
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hey guys, whats up with the dank memes? wf vegeta is purple? has he caught a saiyan flu?
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>>142139242
At least he killed Cell.
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>>142128980

what's that bottom right
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If Black Goku is Bardock and they somehow purify him? Would Goku give his father said second chance? Maybe ask him to live with his family?
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>>142140741
If Black Goku is Bardock then why is he still alive?
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>>142134439
When is Goku going to lose?
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>>142141193
He did against Beerus.
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>>142134439
Toriyama doesn't like to have female villains, though.
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>>142141193
He lost against Radditz and Cell
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>>142141193
>>142141527
Also Tao, Tambourine, Vegeta twice, and Yamcha techincally
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>>142127219
>>142125411
this.
He's all naked, he said in his manga
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>>142132021
>>142132051
I think AT storyboards the manga now, but that's it.
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>Vegeta rooting for the clone next episode.
Neat.
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>>142140487
Because.
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>>142141193
Technically he's never actually beaten Vegeta.
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>>142126013
>>142126183
>>142129452
When has Gotenks ever done ANYTHING useful?
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>>142147922
He got absorbed which made the arc more suspenseful.
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>>142129448

Will Vegeta ever get his day?
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>>142131875

Yeah, it's like Fine China.
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>>142148636
He beat most of Universe 6 single-handedly.
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>>142141193

You do know Goku has lost every major fight in Super, right? Outclassed by Beerus, lost to 24k Freeza becuase he was dicking around too much and lost to Hit. In general, Goku actually loses a lot for a protagonist.

I wouldn't be surprised if he also loses to the villain of the upcoming arc as well.
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Why is Goku more talented than Vegeta?
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>>142141193
he lost to #19 but that was more heart virus than anything, but a lost is a lost
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>>142148799

He worked with several godlike figures instead of just punching gravity all day.
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>>142148724

>he beat a bunch of losers

wow so impressive.
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>>142148873
Who were the top dogs in their own universe.
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>>142148799
He's trained under multiple masters and actually knows how to train. Vegeta constantly works himself to exhaustion, not giving his muscles time to heal and banks on Zenkai boosts to make up for it.
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>>142148837
God, I forgot how much I hate Yardie's DBO design. Their Toei design was 8000000000 times better.
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>Vegeta grabs the pacifier
>wills his powers back
>suckerpunches Goku
>beats himself

You heard it here first, faggots
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>>142149163
>stand around smiling for like 10 minutes
>vegeta still not dead
jesus christ.
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>>142149163
Jobber-kun denwa.
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>>142149426
Yep, and now we're going to have about 15 minutes of Goku and Purple Vegeta fighting and by the end of it Vegeta still won't be dead yet and will turn out fine when Purple Vegeta is destroyed despite the fact that he should have died ages ago.

Toriyama really can't do time can he.
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>Super is better than GT
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>>142149652
We see back in the Saiyan Saga they fight absurdly fast. So they maybe just suffer from time dilatation.
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>>142115463
It's a regular in the Top 10 in Japan.
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>>142149426

The pacifier probably will be the excuse to keep Vegeta around next episode.
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>>142129452
If it were GT, they wouldn't even fuse. And Goku would tell them to give him their energy.

I guess it depends on how you react to watching characters you like getting beaten up. Super so far is giving more screentime to the secondary cast compared to GT post-space arc. However, they still are way behind Goku (and Vegeta), just like in GT, and so can't really beat any threatening villains, they just have more character focus than they did in GT in spite of that.

We might get a 3rd relevant character soon with Trunks too, so there's that.
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>>142131242
>>Was Tien even present in GT?
Tenshinhan, Yamcha and Chaotzu had a few background cameos, but not even a single voiced line. They also didn't bother making new designs for them, so they didn't age from the end of Z, while everyone else did.
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>>142149896
Yeah they use the other characters more. But only to rub in how much useless they are. So I'm not sure how much of an improvement it is.
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>Bardock is actually going to be in Super

I was dreaming of this since it was announced, I can't wait.
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>>142150024
It's just speculation from people who think "Goku Black" who attacks Trunks' future will turn out to be Bardock. There's nothing confirmed yet, so don't get too excited.
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>>142150101
Considering since Online came out they've shoehorned the Bardock plot into everything, I wouldn't be surprised in the least.
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>>142150101
I got excited over the thought that Bardock would be in the tournament and I'll get excited over the thought Bardock might be the villain in this arc too.
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>disappear in 2-3 minutes
this was a translation error, right?
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>>142149726
Except for the whole .1 second timestop thing actually being relevant
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Vegeta's gonna get a power boost from this isn't he? Like somehow all of the victims powers will be absorbed by him by the end of this shit.
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>>142141193

He's literally lost every fight in Super so far. Vegeta has more wins than him.
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>>142151341
Great, i missed it
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>>142150864
It was obvious since the very start that Vegeta won't disappear in 3 minutes because he's fucking Vegeta, the prince of all saiyans.
And when he told that to Goku, he was obviously being cynical, wanting to get this over with.
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>Never liked the concept of Super because it feels like a cheap cash grab devoid of any artistic investment in every way

>Stopped watching in the middle of Freezer: Golden Shower Edition

>This thread

Why do you idiots keep watching this? It's just pathetic.
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>>142152136

Because it's _fun_
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>>142152136

It's free and for the first time in my life I can see Dragon Ball the same day it's released in Japan with only a few hours of difference.

I don't like it better than OG DB or DBZ, but it's alright.
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>>142152136
Because if Beerus and Whiss aren't enough for you to watch it, you have the shittiest taste possible.
Also because it's better than Z and finally fun.
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>>142152468
>not watching it live
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>>142149074
These >>142148837 are from DBO? You're right, the Toei designs are way better.
I bet Toriyama did those DBO yardies, sure looks like his recent stuff.
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>>142152136
>he missed the fun parts
ayy lmao lad
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>>142148837

They fucked up the order of his masters and Kami technically never trained him.
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>>142152820
There's no "fun parts". There's "less serious" parts, but they're like a dead clown, no fun at all.
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>>142152881
I'm pretty sure he did, Popo was just the warmup training.
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>>142125127
really? why they using the game stories for the anime? Ughhh rather than trying something new.

It would had been interested if they had re-invented baby for example.
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>>142153040
Honestly, the game stories are way better than Super so far.
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>>142115463
But it's Dragon Ball, they will watch it sooner or later
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>YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT IN 3 MINUTES OR I'LL DISAPPEAR
>goku spends the rest of the time fucking around not rushing, being a retard
>3 minutes pass
>vegeta still standing there
>goku standing around talking


Man, also DBS Goku is way dumber than DB and DBZ goku. Literally retarded tier dumb. DBS really pisses me off in a lot of ways.
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>>142150101

I mean who else could it be? IT's not like they're gonna make turles canon cause they're saving that for Broly
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>>142153059
yeah but that doesnt mean you have to make the game stories into actual fucking canon.
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>it's a let's humiliate gohan episode
>it's a let's humiliate piccolo episode
>it's a let's humiliate gotenks episode
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>>142153040
Do you trust Toriyama to try something new? Look where that got us so far.
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>base vegeta is stronger than SS3 Gotenks
What?
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>>142153040
>>142153971

The Dragonball Online stuff was created with Toriyama's participation, just like Super itself. It's not confirmed that this will use it though, it's just people speculating right now.
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>>142154452
That has been true ever since Battle of Gods. Well, not Vegeta himself, but Base Goku (post God Ki absorption) was shown to be significantly stronger than SSJ3 Goku himself in the previous battle, SSJ3 Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan. Then by the time of Revival F, Vegeta was on Goku's level, so it's natural that the same applies to him.
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>>142154452
Whis has been training their base forms so they'll be stronger without Super Saiyan. Plus they spent three years in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber before the tournament
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>>142154452
yeah he is
he trained his ass off to attain the god form
while gotenks never evolved from the buu saga
we could say that goku and vegeta are as strong or even stronger than vegeto now
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>>142154362
Anyone who isn't Goku or Vegeta gets completely shit on in super.
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>>142154452
Fat Buu < DBZ SS3 Goku < Super Buu < SS3 Gotenks < Super Buu (Goten + Trunks + Piccolo) < Mystic Gohan < Super Buu (Gotenks + Piccolo) < Super Buu (Gohan+Goten+Trunks+Piccolo) < SS Vegetto < Base Vegeta.
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>>142153971
>make the game stories into actual fucking canon
That a 100% better idea than both Super and GT
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>>142126128
That part made me laugh. Vegeta should have vanished when goku and purple vegeta where talking a lot.
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>>142125463
He's too much of a pussy to bang Bulma. Aside from Bulma probably tearing his tounge out through his ass if he tried, Vegeta is basically god-level at this point, so he'd turn Mr. Galactic Patrolman into paste in the span of 3.2 attoseconds.
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>>142154789
all U6 fighters are than buuhan
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>>142154789
Kid Buu is stronger than all of those
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>>142154970
>kid buu stronger than buuhan
weaker than frost
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>>142154970
Not at all.
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>>142154452
>Retard can't even follow Dragon Ball
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>Goku finally gets a shot at beating Vegeta
>it's not the real Vegeta

Gokufags BTFO once more
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>>142115071

lol no

Just more filler garbage. Skipped through it.
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>>142154629
>Anyone who isn't Goku gets completely shit on

ftfy
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>>142115071
What do Purple Vegeta taste like?
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>the bodies will disappear in 3-5 minutes
>episode has been on for 12 minutes
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>>142149426

Let's not forget Gotenks defusing, which takes in world 30 minutes to happen. Or are we going to argue that now all of a sudden getting hit hard enough breaks fusions?
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>>142115071
why is vegiters a gummy bear now what the fuck.
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Why are they wearing their old outfits?
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SS3 Gotenks lost against a base Vegeta. Doesn't fusion alone give you a high multiplier of power then multiply that by SS3.

I guess nothing is sacred in Super. Next week Goku is then going to shit on Vegeta.
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>>142157186
>Namek will blow up in 5 minutes
>takes 25 episodes
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>>142157300
>A character who is not Goku or Vegeta
>Doing anything worthwhile in a fight

It can be super saiyan blu gotenks and it still won't do jackshit.
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>>142157289
They aren't training with Whis.
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>You totally have to defeat him in 3 minutes or the real Vegeta dies!
>he already took more than 3 minutes and will probably take all of the next episode too
Why do they even bother with these arbitrary time limits? They never mean shit.
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>>142157841
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>>142157841
I love this gif.
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>>142157107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQE3jWYuGiw
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>>142157300
base vegeta fused with the god ki same as goku
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>>142126772
Because that would mean they'd stay fused, which Vegeta wouldn't want.

They'd more likely do the dance, but since that was from the movies they're likely never going to do it here.
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>>142126670
Oh fucking hell, if they're doing this that means that shitty Bardock special is canon
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why is it that ll they can think of is power absorption? it's like Cell all over again
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>>142158319
And Piccolo was able to stand Blue Frieza, the guy that fought base Goku.
Just accept Super is giving its characters the GT treatment, no one is worth shit if they aren't Goku or Vegeta.
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If there's one thing I like about DBS it's the endings. Anyone know where I can find the full songs?
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>>142157387
>being an animefag
>not killing yourself
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>>142158467

That is a bad example. Frost was not only tired because he had to fight goku but piccolo and everyone else knew he was out of his league even with frost being tired.

All piccolo did was wave his arm around a bit before getting smacked down. Piccolo would never catch up to Goku and Vegeta unless he went around fusing with all the other nameks.

hell that can be a plot point. Piccolo can fuse with every single namekian and become Namekian God Piccolo.
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>>142158467
>And Piccolo was able to stand Blue Frieza, the guy that fought base Goku.
Are you retarded? Frost was fucking destroyed by Goku before Piccolo got his chance.

>GT treatment, no one is worth shit if they aren't Goku or Vegeta
Ok you are retarded.
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>>142158642
>wiping out a huge majority of a race just to become stronger
That's fucked up.
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>>142158642
Base Cabba fought with base Vegeta and unless you are telling me base Cabba has god ki, then it's clear Vegeta abd Goku can turn off their god ki.
Purple Vegeta is just an overpowered glorification of Toei's vision of Goku's rival.
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>>142158845
and hilarious enough that super might do it.
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How come you guys don't post bad animation webms anymore? It's the reason I come to these threads in the first place
>That Gotenks vs Purple slime
Fucking hilarious.
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>>142158945
you mean when vegeta was purposefully trying to get him to learn and grasp how to become super saiyan?

When he decided to end it the fight was over instantaneously. There was no even.
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>>142115630
It's filler
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>>142156018
>Vegeta punches Beerus
>Whoa, Vegeta was stronger than Goku!
>Vegeta goes SSB
>Guys DBS is Vegeta's time to shine!
>Goku loses in the U6 tournament
>Finally, it's the Vegeta show now!
>trashed by HIT
>W-well alright Goku is still the main character I guess but they're still equal!
>SSBKaiokenX10
>I-it's okay he can still learn Kaioken right?
>Rekt by purple slime and rendered powerless, Goku has to save his life by beating up his copy.
>D-doushio...
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>>142158735
If I remember correctly base Goku fought with Frost for a while just for the fun, and as far as we know Frost doesn't have god ki. Goku pretty much said he was holding back, that's why they just used normal SJJ. Their SJJ form should be more powerful, but it doesn't have god ki, after all God Ki + SJJ = Super Cyan.
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>>142159069
Exactly, why is it so hard for people to see this Purple Vegeta shit is stupid Toei filler? The next canon arc is Future Trunks and "Black Goku"
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>>142158642
>Piccolo can fuse with every single namekian and become Namekian God Piccolo.

He can't. Piccolo can only fuse with Warrior type Namekian like Nail. All the others are Dragon Clan. Kami was an exception since he was one half of the Nameless Namekian who divided himself between Kami and Piccolo Daimao.

The only way to do it would be to ask the Namekians to spawn more warrior type like Nail so Piccolo can fuse with them, but I'm not sure without a major crisis they'd accept to do that.
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>>142159000
Or when Vegeta said base Cabba was as powerful as him.
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>>142159199
>The next canon arc is Future Trunks and "Black Goku"
Which doesn't really sounds good either.
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>>142127340
Still waiting
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>Goku fights Beerus more or less evenly as a normal super saiyan
>SSB is supposed to be MUCH stronger
>But it's still not as strong as Beerus!
>Multuply SSB x10
>B-but it's still not as strong as Beerus pls believe me (t.Toriyama)
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>>142159198
>and as far as we know Frost doesn't have god ki.
Stop with this bullshit you don't need God Ki to fight people with God Ki see RoF Frieza and Hit.

>that's why they just used normal SJJ
pic related
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>>142159199
Even if we accept the sidestories are "filler", you're fucking delusional if you think they're not canon just cause they shit on your vegetable husbando.
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>>142159267
What does that have to do with people confusing Toei filler for canon?
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>>142159425
>Retard doesn't understand the concept of holding back, even when Beerus said as much
Hope that pic is portraying your face.
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>>142159447
>you don't need God Ki to fight people with God Ki see RoF Frieza and Hit
Of fucking course a fuckkng weakling as Frost can fight with Goku because Frost is at 4 moths training Frieza"s level.
Pls, kill youself.
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>>142159425
See this is exactly what I'm talking about >>142159447
How am I supposed to believe that Goku is not stronger than Beerus now? When the fights in U6 clearly show there's a gulf of power between Normal mode, Super Saiyan and SSB, not to mention the direcly measurable Kaioken x10?

>>142159624
So I'm supposed to believe Beerus "held back" enough to fight evenly against an opponent that would have to be more than 20 times weaker than him, and STILL managed to be satisfied enough to not destroy the earth? Don't make me laugh, fanboy.
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>>142159662
>because Frost is at 4 moths training Frieza"s level
How does this have anything to do with having God Ki?
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>>142159690
Just kill yourself. You haven't been paying attention but you complain and whine like a baby. Goku with his kaioken is 7 on a scale. Beerus at full power is 8. Whis is 15
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>>142159476
>Being this retarded
It's a self contained story that will not lead into anything and it's mostly likely wasn't written by Toriyama hence filler hence not canon dumbass
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>SSB is perfect ki control, with no issues like ki drain! That's why Goku can use kaioken now!

>Goku doesn't use SSB against Hit from the start, because "it drains stamina too much".

Do the writers of DBS even watch DBS?
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>>142152136
Because I like seeing Piccolo giving tips for taking care of Pan.
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>>142159755
>Goku with his kaioken is 7
>Therefore, Goku without Kaioken is 0.7
>And without SSB must be something like 0.35
>And I'm supposed to believe 0.35 gave 8 enough of a challenge to be satisfied
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>>142159842
When you consider that everything else is probably a 0, then yeah that might be enough to spark an interest.
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>>142159842
It's an exponential scale, you cock munching faggot.
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>>142159690
>a gulf of power between Normal mode, Super Saiyan and SSB, not to mention the direcly measurable Kaioken x10
Keep in mind, 50% Frieza dominated Kaio-Ken times 10 Goku & even Kaio-Ken times 20 Goku didn't do too much damage yet 100% Frieza after surviving a Spirit Bomb still around SSJ Goku level, abit weaker.
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i can't believe /a/ still take this horseshit so seriously
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>>142159727
Goku is powerful because he has god ki + SSJ.
Frost is just a tricker. He can't be at level Frieza was when he fought base Goku with god ki.
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>>142159690
>STILL managed to be satisfied enough to not destroy the earth? Don't make me laugh, fanboy.
Kill yourself retard watch the fucking movie you clearly didn't.

>>142159727
Ignore that fool
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>>142159770
>Retard can't tell the different between Ki drain and stamina
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>>142159912
That literally makes it worse.

>>142159910
Like hell. "an interest" is one thing. But Beerus came to look for a challenge. I can buy that he was entertained by a "6 vs 10", like toriyama initially measured. it's absolute horseshit that he'd be entertained fighting something less than a 20th of his own strength. This is like fighting a baby as a grown-ass man.

>>142159968
>Kill yourself retard watch the fucking movie you clearly didn't.
But I did. See above.
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>>142159927
Spoken like a true retard
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>>142159842
You known neither of these numbers are hard metrics but just a figure of speech.
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>>142160078
There is none, stupid. Stamina fuels ki use. Ki drain is effectively stamina drain, it means you become tired maintaining the form.

Not to mention Goku canonically trained the SUper Saiyan form so it had no ki/stamina drain. I guess the Super writers didn't watch DBZ either.
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>>142130499
You know that Goku Black is not going to be Bardock, right?
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>>142160141
Kaioken x10 isn't a figure of speech, anon. It is literally the factor by which his powerlevel is multiplied. And SSB has to be at least a 2x power increase over SS, otherwise it would be literally fucking useless.
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>>142160088
>But I did. See above.
Fuck off dumbass you wouldn't say shit like
>STILL managed to be satisfied enough to not destroy the earth? Don't make me laugh, fanboy.
if you watched BoG.
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>>142160088
That just shows you don't understand what it means to be strong. If a grown man fought a baby, and that the baby showed the potential to fight back unlike every other baby, it's only natural he'd take interest.

Beerus came to look for a challenge, true. But I don't see what that has to do with it, Goku wasn't a challenge at all, but Beerus could see one day, he could be. Why do retards like you have such a hard time understanding this sort of thing? Is it because it's not all black and white?
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>>142160305
I hope you're not taking his "oops I missed" comment literally, anon. He decided to spare the earth, and it wasn't because of the food.
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>>142157214
Doesn't going SS3 shorten fusion time? It happened in the Buu arc iirc
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>>142160350
>and that the baby showed the potential to fight back unlike every other baby
1/20th of your strength isn't the "potential to fight back", though. It's literally "a fucking baby". Bringing back Kaioken was a mistake and it completely destroyed what little internal consistency DBS had before.
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>>142160168
>Not to mention Goku canonically trained the SUper Saiyan form so it had no ki/stamina drain
I doubt anyone remembers FPSSJ by this point. I've been saying the entire time that Super is a retread of older story arcs, movies & even GT.
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>>142160168
>Stamina fuels ki use. Ki drain is effectively stamina drain,
Nice headcanon bruh

>Not to mention Goku canonically trained the SUper Saiyan form so it had no ki/stamina drain
No retard, he minimized the Ki drain, he didn't get rid of it entirely.
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>Majin Vegeta
>Baby Vegeta
>Purple Vegeta
This is pathetic beyond all imagination. Just stop Toei.
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Is the filler post-tournament watchable?

Thinking of watching the dragon ball super filler or another show.
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>>142160478
>Nice headcanon bruh

Use a lot of ki --- become tired. Explain how I was wrong.
>No retard, he minimized the Ki drain, he didn't get rid of it entirely.
He got rid of it entirely, he maintained the form for several months with no ill effects, and fought cell without ever losing it.
On the other hand, "Perfect Ki Control" SSGodBlue Goku was apparently too much of a drain to use from the start of the match.
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>>142160577
Read the manga.
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>>142160228
The numbers 6, 10 and 15 are figure or speech, moron. Goku using a kaioken x10 could make him a 7 and that's it. The point was "Beerus is wayyyyy stronger than you, and Whis is even more so", not hard numbers.
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>>142118752
Xenoverse pulled that off perfectly. Idek what this shit is
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>>142160577

The pan episode is pretty good.
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>>142160577
4 episodes so far (out of five). First is great, second is good. These two eh
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>>142121346
At least GT had generally original ideas. It feels like Toriyama is just retconning stuff he did early on in Dragon Ball, in addition to just a bunch of recolors
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>>142160671
Again, those numbers literally don't matter because the core problem remains. SSBKaioken goku is at the very least 20 times stronger than super saiyan (god ki) Goku. Easily more, since we have to be ultra conservative with SSB for Super to even begin to make sense.

Meaning once again, we're supposed to believe Beerus was impressed by the relative strength of a literal barely-mobile toddler, in order for Goku to not have surpassed him already.
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>>142160697
its purple goo raping its opponent and taking their power and appearance.
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>>142160595
>Explain how I was wrong.
Reread Goku vs Jackie Chun

>He got rid of it entirely,
He didn't retard, staying in SS for a long time=/=no ki/stamina drain
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>>142160793
>purple goo raping its opponent and taking their power and appearance
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>>142118752
This is confusing my dick.
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>>142160803
>Reread Goku vs Jackie Chun
You mean the fight where Roshi used up most of his chi destroying the moon and ended too tired to fight goku properly? That fight?

>>142160803
>He didn't retard, staying in SS for a long time=/=no ki/stamina drain
Really? Because if there's stamina drain on a form, the direct implication is that it is difficult to maintain, because every moment it is on it is tiring you out. If the fucker was able to train and sleep with the form for 6 months and fight cell perfectly fresh, I don't see how it's supposed to be draining him in any way. Especially compared to the "No Drain" God form that he was afraid to use because it would tire him out.
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>>142160088
Just think of it like a cat playing with a mouse. They don't kill it, they rather smack it around and be entertained by playing with it. Goku is the mouse.
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>>142160910
buu didn't took their appearance just distinct features like clothes and noses
also needed the host in its body
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>>142161009
Cats play with mice because mice are harmless to them. They intend to eat them. They don't go looking for the Super Mouse God and then leave happily because the mouse had the power of a mouse.
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>>142160910

Why didn't vegeta just use ki to blow off the slime? Fucking plot mandated slow thinking.
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>>142161256
its filler
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>>142161298
Filler is no excuse for bad writing, especially when it's canon and the team doing the filler is literally the team writing the plot.
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>>142161000
I mean the fight where Roshi ran out of Ki yet was able to fight Goku for a long period of time, which destroys your headcanon

>Really?
Yes there hasn't been any mention of it having no Ki drain in the manga and if he didn't have any why would Goku ever go back to his base form?

>he was afraid to use because it would tire him out.
Retard, he wasn't afraid to use it he just want to test the limits of Hit's timeskip first.
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>>142161163
Maybe Goku was the only one strong enough to be a 'mouse' which makes him the only mouse in the universe to play with.

Planets are also like couches, cats love to destroy those.
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>>142161336
>Filler is no excuse for bad writing
No you idiot. Google that shit fool.

>the team doing the filler is literally the team writing the plot
Wrong again Bob, Toriyama writes the canon arcs and Toei does the rest of the filler/ SOL shit.
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>>142161375
>I mean the fight where Roshi ran out of Ki yet was able to fight Goku for a long period of time, which destroys your headcanon
Not at all. He was unable to shoot strong kamehameha, but he still had some ki left.

>>142161375
>Yes there hasn't been any mention of it having no Ki drain in the manga
You mean besides the obvious fact that he maintained the form for several months and was fresh and rested to fight cell?
>why would Goku ever go back to his base form
Because chichi hates Yankees, and because the retard literally put his wife through a wall in base form because he wasn't paying attention, staying in a x50 power form would be inconvenient.

>>142161375
>Retard, he wasn't afraid to use it
He LITERALLY says he didn't want to use it because it drained too much power and he had to be fresh to fight him when he figured his trick.
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>>142161451
>Maybe Goku was the only one strong enough to be a 'mouse'
Even if he was, that's still food. It's not something the cat can fight. If his search for the famous Saiyan God ended up in a fucking mouse then I don't see why he'd spare them. He was going to destroy the earth for less.
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>>142161503
>No you idiot. Google that shit fool.
Google what shit? Does google say filler is an excuse for bad writing?

>Wrong again Bob, Toriyama writes the canon arcs and Toei does the rest of the filler/ SOL shit.
Nice headcanon, now prove it.
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>>142161561
>>142161375

Just to drive home the point.

This is roshi after a short rest. Still winded, still breathing heavily. He could fight, but didn't have the chi to shoot a proper kamehameha.

Since he was breathing fine before, it was therefore the Kamehameha that winded him. So ki drain = stamina drain.
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>>142161561
>Not at all. He was unable to shoot strong kamehameha, but he still had some ki left.
>but he still had some ki left.

Lies, you're full of shit.

I accept your concession.
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>>142122537
He's back to normal
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This thread

>Super doesn't suck because it's just filler. I-it doesn't count
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>>142149426
>>142157214
In other news, this planet will explode in five minutes!
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>>142161995
Wrong image
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>>142162005
Only the story of the Super manga is canon, the rest is filler.
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>>142162149
Ignore the retard
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>>142161995
It's true, though. He produced a very small Kamehameha. Don't just call lies and try to claim victory just because you're cornered anon.
Maybe you should read the fight yourself, this is what happens after Roshi destroys the moon.
>They take a short break
>Goku is hungry, so he's weakened as well
>Goku tries a Kamehameha, roshi narrowly avoids getting a ringout
>THey kick each other
>Roshi wins because his leg was longer

That's it. Roshi was so weak goku's shorter kick knocked him down and he almost, almost couldn't stand up again. In other words, the drain of his Kamehameha left him drained physically as well.

>>142162140
Nice job on the image, too. Literally proving he still had some ki left. And you seem to forget, in early Dragon Ball none of them had great ki control, not even Roshi. Roshi's Kamehameha was a highly difficult technique, so a drained Roshi wouldn't be able to do it.
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>>142162149
>>142162241
Assblast Superfags.
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>>142162306
You sure showed them.
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>>142162149
Super es fanfiction Tier, a bad one
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>>142160448
A really big difference between Goku and Beerus had already been suggested with Whis making that comparison between a tree (Goku and Vegeta's level) and that giant tower in the center of Beerus' world (Beerus' actual level)
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>>142162283
>Literally proving he still had some ki left.
He couldn't make a Ki blast bigger than his hand yet he could fight Goku for a long period of time.
Somehow Ki =Stamina

Yeah no, again I accept your concession. Come back when you reread the series kid.
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>>142162394
That happens post BotG, and again the fact that this supposedly huge difference exist IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM. TOEIriyama are just piling on powerups with no real thought when there's no logical reason a 20, 30 times weaker fighter would in any way entertain Beerus. it's like if Goku fought Freezer's third form without Kaioken, he'd have been a bug.
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>>142162500
>yet he could fight Goku for a long period of time.
They stood around talking, then kicked each other. That was the "long period of time". And Goku was already almost as weak as Roshi was, due to hunger.

So yeah, Ki = Stamina. Just because you're too tired to do a backflip doesn't mean you can't move.
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>>142162500
They need ki to throw punches. Ki = stamina.
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>>142162500
If Ki =/= stamina, why was Roshi breathing heavily from shooting a Kamehameha? According to you, if they're separate things, draining ki should not drain his breath.
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>>142162500
>>142162582
>>142162637
>>142162717

How are you idiots so autistic over this? Maybe ki and stamina are separate things but are intertwined kind of like hunger and thirst.
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>>142163247
Ki and stamina ARE separate things, but ki is born of stamina. This isn't even dragon ball exclusive, it's just the typical MA mysticism. If you're tired, you can't produce ki. Using ki a lot tires you out. Draining ki = draining stamina.

We're simply pointing out that's how ki behaves in DB as well. That's why shooting a fuckhuge kamehameha leaves the fighting tired as fuck and short of breath, despite only physically putting his hands together and yelling.
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>>142157841
At this point the time limit thing must be a inner joke/meme of some sort they do for fun.
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>>142163247
>DB threads
>not autistic
Pick one and only one.
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>>142153927
it isn't bardok and even his name doesn't mean he's black, maybe he has white hair...
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>>142156048
exactly
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>>142163789
Except the filler is way better than the main story. So prepare your anus for gargabe fanfiction tier in the next arc, 'Black Goku' should be a big hint of the quality.
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>>142157841
as the comic relief character Vegeta is gonna spend the next episode with the pacifier in his mouth to extend the time limit
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Is it just me or did they actually choose to go with ugly slimy enemy clones to justify shit animation?
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>>142152687
He did. AT has gone kinda overboard with the whole "small, featureless pudgy alien" design. Just recently we've had

>Yardies
>Gure
>Abo
>Cado
>Omni-King
>Sorbet
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>>142163964
I honestly don't know what Vegetafags bitch so much about, it's literally the only character that managed to remain somewhat relevant aside of Goku.
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>>142163911
>Except the filler is way better than the main story
You wish, talking about being delusional.
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>>142164066
And Monaka.
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>>142164066
At least with Sorbet he fucking tried, all the others are just circles with eyes.
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>>142164253
You don't know shit about Dragon Ball, it's supposed to have funny designs. :^)))
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>>142164066
He also did the Episode of Bardock version of the Tsufurujin.
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>>142164319
Super is full of "funny designs".
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>>142164704
No wonder why the Saiyans were considered as a terrible warrior race: Apparently three quarter of the galaxy is populated with people with fucking circles instead of a head on top a stick body.
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>>142164844
>Galaxy

Multiverse.
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They must bring Broly eventually.

The legendary Saiyan must be alive somewhere in another universe.
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>>142164966
>Broly
Not canon.
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>>142164966
That's not how the different universes works.

There can be a Legendary Super-Saiyan, but it won't be Broly.
The same way you have Champa and Vados as counterpart for Beerus and Whis.
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>>142165047
Broly did blue hair before it was popular anyway.
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Dragon Ball Super developments:
>everyone lost 50% their body mass
>Goku lost 50% his IQ
>Vegeta is now one foot taller
>Not training for two years made Gohan pretty much useless. Although not training for 7 years before Buu saga made him just somewhat weaker
>It doesn't matter since everyone is useless anyway
>Tons of failed attempts at mimicking old DB arcs/tropes (Pilaf is back! Frieza is back! Frieza is back again, and he's poisonous! Budokai! Goku vs Vegeta! Oh no, it's a Buu-like enemy! This guy is weak, but we'll pretend he's strong! There is ANOTHER Shenlong)

I really don't see this series going anywhere. Whenever something interesting seems to be about to happen they just flush the possibility right down the toilet in the most predictable way. My last hopes are on the Future Trunks arc. It doesn't really seem like they intend to actually develop anything, they just want to regurgitate Dragon Ball's past success.
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>>142165811
>>Not training for two years made Gohan pretty much useless. Although not training for 7 years before Buu saga made him just somewhat weaker
Not quite true. The new tier of transformations made Gohan useless. And now Tori gave goku a 10x power up on top of that idiotic transformation.

It's a HUUUGE mess.
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>>142165811
>>142166010
Super is The Goku and Vegeta show. Future Trunks is going to cry for Goku's help, everyone jobs, Goku saves the day.
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>>142166143
Dragon Ball was always Goku's show.
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>>142165811
>Pilaf is back!
But that's good, because there is best girl
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>>142164704
He should just let one of his students take over. His new designs/ideas suck. The Japanese will worship him even if he creates complete shit anyway.

It's actually quite funny people give a rat's ass about what is "canon" in Dragon Ball when his new shit isn't any better than "non-canon" crap.
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>>142166205
>because there is best girl
Shit taste, to be honest.
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>>142166143
You mean the Goku show. Kaioken just made Vegeta as worthless as everyone else. We don't know how big a boost from base SSB is because everything's vague and inconsistent, but Kaioken might just be bigger currently.
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>>142161118
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>>142166233
>The Japanese will worship him even if he creates complete shit anyway.
There's your answer. It's not just the japanese either, 4chan has tons of Tori fanboys that are gushing about how great his awful designs and writing are, just because it's by him.

Why would they have someone else take over then AT prints money?
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>>142166194
Yeah, but there have always been several moments Goku wasn't there to solve everything. In fact, the whole Buu saga and Z ending was about Goku passing the ball for the next generation to solve Earth's problems. Now they reverted that and Goku doesn't even have the intelligence required to return to that line of thought anymore.
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>>142166194
And we got moments like pic related.
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>>142166475
It became the Saiyan show after Namek.
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>>142149163

>Vegeta
>ever winning a battle against someone who's not far below his power level

The entire DBZ/DBS series is a childish game to keep him down and Goku propped up.
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Why did they make Goku so stupid in Super? He was never this dumb.
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>>142166653
Because that way Superfags can self insert as Goku.
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