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What's up with Pedro?
Is he hiding something?
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>Oda making mistake after mistake
>people still suck his dick
>next thing this faggot will do is add romance
>Oda just pulls shit out of his ass 1 hour before the chapter gets shipped out
>I-I was just kidding guys Sanji actually is a prince hehe xd
>H-Hopefully my retard fans won't realize that choppa Brook and Nami should know pudding xD
>is it even him writing the story at this point

Dropped
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Who's the strongest mink?
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>shitpost
>bait
>lol
>thanks for the (yous)
>:)
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>>142107980
There it is
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THE INVINCIBLE CAPTAIN JACK
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>>142107980
Probably still Neko and Inu, despite the missing limbs
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>>142107951
Holy shit, damn...

That's it, I'm #TeamHxH now!
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>>142108224
>giving this faggot a (you)
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>>142108277
>being mad
I bet you're that faggot trying to fit in by copying him. Kys
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>>142108329
Ah shut up
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>>142108329
>copying him
>trying to fit in
are you some special kind of retard?
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>>142107980
carrot at the end of series
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>>142107857
Is Sanji finally going to have a big fight? And I mean against an enemy that's not an underlying. A Vinsmoke like his dad, for example.
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>>142108530
sounds good.
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Werecarrot when?
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>>142108530
>at the end of the series
But cover stories aren't meaty enough to know about that :^)
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>>142108543
Sanji fights his dad. Luffy fights Big Mom. Zoro and Law fight the unknown shogun. This paves the way to get everyone ready for Kaido.
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>>142108603
>implying she's not joining
You Puddingfags will be BTFO
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>>142108543
One can only hope. God knows he needs it.
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>>142108692
>>142108727
I can feel it in my dick, what the first anon said is what's gonna happen. Luffyfags, Zorofags and Sanjifags will be satisfied.
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>>142108726
>Implying either will join
Jinbe is the only one joining get over it. And maybe CC but that's it
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>>142108786
Jimbei is the safest bet, no doubt, but I could see Carrot or Pudding joining up depending on how much of development they get. Especially Pudding.
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>>142108786
>Implying that CC isn't joining Heart pirates crew.
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HNNNNNNGGGGG best
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>>142108968
>best
>in a chapter with Pudding and Big Mom
Pudding's the best.
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>>142108845
>implying cedar the pharmacist relationship isn't enough to join the strawhats
> implying law would put up with a such a stupid wacky character
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>>142109000
Sorry but Pudding has no chance against Nami in that outfit
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>>142109032
Who is bepo
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>>142109089
There's no need to fight, my nigga Sanjay will decide that.
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>>142109089
Pudding destroys nami. She doesn't even deserve caps in her name because Pudding is that sweet.

get it? Sweet? Lol
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>>142108823
I can't See it. Definitely if oda developed something people between her and sanji. I feel sanji relationship with every girl is important as this is how he will treat them for the rest of the trip. Plus if another girl joins they will just be put into fodder control with the rest
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>>142108595
When the moon is full again.
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>>142109148
Pudding has a stupid face
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>>142109148
Jokes aside, she was really good in this chapter and I don't usually like characters that much at first sight except for people like my negro Pekoms and Nekomamushi.

Hopefully she becomes a long-term acquaintance of the Strawhats, like Vivi and such.

>>142109190
Well, it's not like Oda is going to fuck with the Monster Trio (but seeing Jimbei there, who knows).

It all comes down to the kind of relationship she and Sanji have and what happens to her. I could see her staying in Cocoa Island though and waiting for Sanji or whatever. Then, showing up in Cover Stories and the Epilogue.
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>>142109089
>not wanting both
Watch out boys, we've got a gay on the loose
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>>142109090
Bepo isn't a wacky stupid character. Yeah he has that sorry thing but for the most part he's smart and act pretty normal like the rest of the crew. Caesar is always doing and saying stupid shit. no one in laws group who will hit him for comedy. If this makes sense
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>>142109259
That's her worst pic by far, though. In this chapter she looked pretty good, and I disliked her in the photograph.
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>>142109259
What is Purin going to do now that she knows she's met Luffy?
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>>142109259
...you have a stupid face
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>>142109363
Stop pushing Caesar as a nakama.

The next nakamas are Eyelashes and Scissors.
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>>142108968
TOP QT / 10
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>>142109259
>better looks
>doesn't dress like a slut at all times
>better personality

I guess we just have a mad namifag here denying the truth.
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>>142109389
I honestly have no idea and I'm Oda's wife's son.

I don't even know if we're returning to Luffy's point of view next chapter now that we've been introduced to BM and still have Sanjay waiting.
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>>142108776
And yaoifags with zoro/law teamup
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>>142109319
>her wait at cocoa island
I honestly see that too. Like her looking at their new wanted poster while in her new cafe or something.
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>>142109417
>stop pushing Caesar
I said he might be
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>>142109446
Aoi Yuuki as Purin's seiyuu or we riot.
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>>142109446
>he actually thinks Puddings personality is real
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>>142109446
Nami is a slut though. Why post a pic of her?
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>>142109363
It doesnt. Bepo can hit Caesar. Or maybe his antics will play off of Sachi and Penguin. All of your hubbub is speculative fanfiction.
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>>142109567
It was a joke, I wanted to talk about the best camel and crab in the manga :(

>>142109592
I know she'll have a twisted side or something, but her attitude towards Luffy and co seemed genuine, especially with her reaction after finding out who he is.

But maybe she was trying to fat them up to eat them, who the fuck knows.
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>>142109592
This. She seems so fake. She is hiding something
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>>142109460
That's crazy I'm oda wife kid also. maybe we are related?

But by what I heard we will see sanji,BM and Luffy crew next week. There will be a cliff hanger and Also there's a breaks
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>>142109569
Yes we will riot
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>>142109424
>flares her dress up
>gets mad at brook for looking

I don't hate nami for being a slut. I hate that she acts like she isn't.
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>>142109624
Pudding looks nothing like Nami
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>>142109672
I would have agreed if not for her last panel tbqhwyf.

That doesn't mean she's going to help Luffy and co (not at first, at least). But up until that point it seemed real.
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>>142109190
>pudding
>team fodder
She's gonna be the if you hurt her you're fucking dead character.
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>>142107951
Your loss man. Soon One Piece will become the greatest love story ever told.
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>>142109592
>>142109672

>Her personality is fake
>hating on the best girl

Alright namifags
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>>142109786
Ofc the last panel was real. You can be acting and change expression in a sec.
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>>142109624
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>>142109761
Brook doesn't even have a penis anymore. What's Nami so afraid of? She should just throw the old man a bone
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>>142109917
Yes SanjixNami will be good this arc!
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>>142109761
t. Mohammed
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>>142109981
But why would she act that way at first to strangers? It's not like they're important people or she has something to gain there (as far as we know by now).

I mean, it's possible, say, that she wanted to have more food for her mother. But I kinda doubt it considering how her face looked at the sight of her mother eating those guys.
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>>142109653
You do realize saying he will join the heart pirates is just a fanfic? And no bepo doesn't seem like the type who will hit characters after talking about weapons he made to kill people. Hell law himself is known to be brutal and a killer so I don't it would bother him. And ceaser is to egotistical to be under law, and his antics or quirk is way different from penguin
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>>142110108
What does Ussop have to do with this?
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>>142109795
I doubt she seems to nice for that
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>>142107857

THE INVINCIBLE CAPTAIN JACK
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>>142109417
>Scissors
I miss him/her
top tier cute in both genders
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>>142110202
Its logic. Caesar has to go somehwere. If Law is brutal, he won't mind Caesar. We've had like 10 panels of Law's crew total. You literally can't say anything with certainty about how they act. We have seem Bepo getting Jean-Bart about seniority in the crew. It isn't much of a stretch to say that means he will keep newer crewmates in line.
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Man, Norland's flashback is really sad.
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>>142110255
I'm finally right on time to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boNRVXR7bqg
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>>142109981
But why would she act so nice to random people? Plus having luffy say his name was clearly a plot device by oda. If she was acting she didn't need all the that. when oda have people acting does he usually have them acting so overly dramatic? Im sure she is a very genuine person, only thing that got me was her blushing at the guy wishing her a happy wedding. I don't think she's faking but she might have a yandere side or something I do believe
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>>142110572
I can't wait to see how she's nice to everybody but somehow has constant arguments with Sanji, for some reason.
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>Sanji and Pudding fall in love for real
>about to kiss
>Luffy defeats Big Mom and knocks her out
>Pudding becomes a lifeless doll
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>>142110694
>Sanji kills himself
>Jimbei, Caesar and Carrot join the crew, having a great party and forgetting about Sanji in one chapter
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>dethrone Big Mom
>Pudding takes her place
>becomes allies with Strawhats
There's no other way.
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How the fuck doesn't literally everyone on the planet recognise Luffy by now? Not even his bounty poster, fucking everyone knows about his involvement in the War and his face has appered over and over and over on newspapers. Newspapers that can even reach a fucking Elephant. There is no real excuse for him being mistaken as 4m giant. None at all. Nd you might say he's not that big of a deal in the New World but that's not true either. He's a bloody Supernova, one of the most infamous rookies Ever, defeated Warlord after Warlord, survived Admiral after Admiral, punched a fucking Celestial Dragon, and more!

Don't get me wrong, I fucking love OP and everything about it but it just occurred to me that almost no one recognises ther ubbery bastard.
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>>142110572
Maybe she is just trying to act happy about the marriage but now that she knows it's Luffy she will confess that she doesn't want to get married.
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I didn't even notice the city in the background here. Does it mean Sanji and Tamago stopped near an island like the one the Straw Hats landed on? Also, the 28 on the Tartship means it's the island where the 28th daugther of the Charlotte family resides?
The Tartship's number in Cacao Island wasn't shown, maybe it has the number 35 on it
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>>142110368
Ok and your acting like we haven't seen characters reform. Buggy, crocodile, Robin, franky, barto, Bon clay and much more. They all were evil people and more then likely killed yet once they met luffy they pretty much changed and some became jokes, and nobody would have said anything if Bon clay had joined. Caesar is no longer a brutal person, he honestly all jokes now. Mostly every character in law group is serious for the most part and when they do make jokes they're very small ones. Jean fell in line under bepo because he much rather do that then be a slave so there is no arguments, Caesar isn't that type of character who wants to listen to people.

Plus as of now he has the closes relationship if you can call it that with sanji. I guessing if he does join sanji will be the one to always attack/threaten him
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>>142110948
Yeah, it's seems like Lola's twin is the 28th daughter.

I assume the husbands become the Chancelors along with them.
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>>142110616
Haha that would be funny and people saying how they already act like a married couple or how they should get married already.
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>>142110906
I could see that too.
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>>142111030
I doubt that as with Lola sister it's shown that she was with the crew.
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>>142110505

Impressive
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>>142111153
Ah, you're right. Although I guess she could have returned to her island, but maybe not.

Anyways I like the idea of having each marriage govern an island.
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>>142111069
Just no. Kys. That's some tumblr type shit.
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>Multicultural island
>That nose
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>>142111279
>writes fanfic for Caesar to join law
>someone calls it stupid for clear reason
>g-go back to tumblr

Wew lad
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>>142111594
Where did I write that shit nigga? That's my first time replying to your beta ass.
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Does anyone know where can I find OP raws? I wanted to read 827 to get the overall idea of Big Mom's song since its structure is obviously lost in translation.
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>>142111628
wrong person I thought you was talking about something else. But on that note if you don't think that will happen then it doesn't really matter because you're a anon
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So is it confirmed now that this faggot is Big Mom's son or something?
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>>142112060
>Big Mom's
shut the fuck speedreader he is even acompanied by his mom and bossing him around
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>>142107980
all jobbers, all of them
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>>142112134
Sure anon

I'm sure he's the actual Whitebeard's son too
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>>142107951
>H-Hopefully my retard fans won't realize that choppa Brook and Nami should know pudding xD
Wait, what happened? I'm a retard.
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>>142112196
They all heard pudding name when Capone was bringing up sanji past. And now they heard pudding name, agin while in BM territory and knows she's getting married
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if big mom has 30+ daughters how many sons does she have?
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>>142110894
I also find it weird, everybody has heard of him... but don't know what he looks like, that's pretty odd
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>>142112368
It could still be a common name around there. She wasn't revealed directly to them. It's pretty easy to write around.
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>>142112371
None, you didn't read the SBS that said she's from Amazon lily
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>>142112519
Flashback with Nyon-baasan when?
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>>142111807
http://mangahead.com/Manga-Raw-Scan/One-Piece

Here but the last chapter is not online yet
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>>142111807
Thank you anon. See I asked if someone could do it and they said " how is someone suppose to know how it sounds" when I was clearly just asking does it go together or sound better in Japanese.
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>>142109424
HOLY FUCKING SHIT MY DICK
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>>142108726
luffy said he wants 10 crew members.
they have 9.
jinbe already said he'll join, and luffy said he would let jinbe join when he asks.
so either jinbe joins, and noone after.
or jinbe dies, and monet joins
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Why didn't Shanks use haki to save his arm?
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>>142112613
I'm sorry anon I was lying . I wish
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>>142112933
I think when he said he wants ten crew members he wasn't including himself. So then that means we have two more members left. If jinbe join then we have one open spot (CC will take it). Plus it has to be 10 members because BB has ten fleet captains, not including his self since burgess is number 1
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>>142112507
Not the same anon, but don't be a retard. Even if was the most common name in the world, the circumtances demanded they reacted somehow. How many Pablos will be marrying in the same town in Mexico when I'm looking for a marrying Pablo?
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>>142112772
You're welcome. Yeah people are assholes here, nothing new
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>>142112943
Please, stop posting this every thread. The answer is that Oda's editor told him Shanks should lose an arm for drama.
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>>142112441
Exactly. He honestly has shown up in the paper multiple times. And not for petty shit but literally World shaking stuff. A 2 year gap wouldn't make anyone forget the shit Luffy has pulled.
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>>142113357

Source?
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>>142113488
The second "grand countdown" interview they did with Oda during the timeskip.
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>>142113386
>A 2 year gap wouldn't make anyone forget the shit Luffy has pulled.
It didn't, otherwise nobody should have fallen for Fake Luffy. Well, they shouldn't have, either way. But everyone fooled by Demaro Black remembered Luffy's deeds.
Landlubbers are a different matter, but the newspapers were already mentioned.
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>>142113745
how much did that shithead's shenanigans affect luffy's reputation?
by shithead i mean demaro black, not sanji
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>>142113614

It says here Oda decided to cut Shank's arm off because the story wasn't interesting enough. So the author decides to cut his arm off but storywise it makes zero sense. Bad writing and plot hole.
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>>142113933
he just had to say that shanks didn't have Armor haki.
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>>142110279
He's talking about the fucking crab you faggot.
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>>142112943
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>>142109032
Why was momo hiding on Zou if he knew about the minks, Nekomamushi and Inuarashi?
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>>142114806
because he was a sad terrified and traumatized 8 year old faggot.
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>>142113142
> How many Pablos will be marrying in the same town in Mexico when I'm looking for a marrying Pablo?

Juan.
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>>142114806
He did not hide. He said he felt uneasy and rested in his room
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>>142114970
Carlos you little shit. One of these days I'm going to knock your fucking teeth out with a crowbar
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>>142112943
Why the fuck can't people ever accept that that event happened TWELVE YEARS AGO in canon storyline time and Shanks probably just wasn't that strong back then?
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>>142116160
Can't get (You)s and shitpost with straight up logic.
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>>142114733
Hody was a shitty villain, but that fight is underrated. I mean underwater fight with that huge ass ship fallling down is kinda cool.
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>>142116160
It's not that he wasn't strong. When has armament haki ever protect against sharp objects in general? I yet to see a sword just bounce off someone using armament. The most armament has done is help block against punches
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everything points out that big mom will eventually end up in good terms with luffy, while kaidou and black beard will be the real enemies.

>They saved lola in triller bark and pekoms in thriller bark
>sanji family dont seem like entirely bad guys, they could potentially marry in sanjis place
>Big moms ambitions dont seem entirely evil, with creating a world where every race coexists
>they dont have the intention of going full war, just bringing back sanji and poneglyp.
>its impossible luffy and friends will just wreck everyone in bigs mom crew right now.

this arc is going to just be a bunch of disagreements and small brawls that will eventually end with big mom earning luffys respect, also jinbei crew cameos probably.
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>>142116948

Luffy broke Rebecca's sword with his head right before he went gear 4 for the second time.
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Will sanji and co bounty go up? I mean he's the only one in the monster trio who hasn't broken pass 200 million. He should hit at least 280 by the end of this arc
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>>142116160
He was that strong. Whitebeard comments on peoples surprise at someone as strong as Shanks losing an arm in East Blue.

I handwave it as a gesture or symbol of letting his ambitions to be the strongest or pirate king go along with entrusting his hopes and hat to Luffy.
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>>142117035
>forgetting the bomb
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>>142117058
Rebeccas sword was blunt speedreader-kun
in the manga she did not get a new sword like in the anime
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>>142117064
Dunno about that, unless Jinbe joins and Sanji still doesn't get top 3 bounty spot. He's always been 4th.
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>>142117183

Yet she was going to kill Viola with it. Unless Doflamingo was planning on having Rebecca bash Viola to death, I can't really see how it's not a valid example.

Also, in the question to which I replied, it was never specified if the wanted answer should have been based on the manga or the anime.

Now please, put that speedreader card back right up your ass.
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>>142117849
>it was never specified if the wanted answer should have been based on the manga or the anime
Not that guy but seriously?
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>>142117849
>Yet she was going to kill Viola with it.
And? She does not have armament haki.
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>>142117097
>handwave
>gesture
you majestic bastard
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>>142108692

the Kaido
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>>142117064
I'm more interested in knowing if he'll keep his "Only Alive" status.
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>>142117097
I handwave it as a gesture that oda is nothing but a two-bit hack
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>>142118589
That was just for capturing sanji. He will probably have his bounty abolished once the marriage happens.
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>>142118079
Yea she does. She coated her tears in armament for her mekujima/iron whale attack
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>>142118831
I handwave it as a gesture that you are a faggot
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>>142118925
nonsense, the attack is not called IRON tear attack for nothing, it has nothing to do with armament haki
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>>142118874
Nah its going to turn into "Dead only" as a fuck you.
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>>142118997
Who cries black tears? It's called iron whale as a call to busoshoku haki.
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>>142119215
Nope, it looks like that and is called that because of a pun
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>>142119215
Then can i cover my asshole in haki to prevent getting raped?
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>>142119351
No but it probably wouldn't hurt as much
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>>142119215
Who cries Whales, nigga. What the fuck. It's all based on puns.
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>>142119306
That's really stupid
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but you can cover your shit in haki and use it as weapon.
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>>142119462
Idk maybe someone with a vision based devil fruit? Just a thought.
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>>142119468
Oda uses puns to make devil fruit techniques works since forever. When did you start reading One Piece you faggot?
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>>142119468
Do you realize how many names of characters, attacks and places in One Piece are based off of Japanese puns?

>>142119507
Didn't Vergo coat bamboo with haki? I imagine that would work with anything else.
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>>142119155
That's if they don't get married.
And let's be real here, anon.
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>>142119351
>>142119507
t. 12 year old
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I've made this for /pol/, but it's related so I'll share it.
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>>142119542
>>142119554
Why not just eye whale. Mr. 3 doesn't just make black wax but if he used buso it would be. Why would Viola be any different.

Tears aren't black. Get over it.
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>>142119646
20,000 keks under the sea.
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>>142119646
Template for all your meming needs.
It's my first template ever, I hope I didn't fuck it up.
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>>142119673
>Why not just eye whale
Are you a bit retarded? It is because of a PUN as I already stated. Oda calls it "Iero Ragurima: Mekujira" to make it a huge whale tear out of iron
>Tears aren't black.
And tears are not shaped like whales, duh?
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>>142119673
Just accept the puns and move on
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Do you think we are going to get a gear 4 with the legs being pumped up instead of the hands?

I'd certainly would like to see that. Far fetched but maybe Luffy can do it as a tribute to Sanji's this ark.
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>>142119759
Ad hominem only softens your footing, chill.

>And tears are not shaped like whales, duh?
Are you aware that Viola has a vision based devil fruit? Even if she used an attack, the tears wouldn't be black. She is coating them in haki.

I'll even throw you a bone, if it is a pun (lol so funny), that doesn't rule out the use of haki.
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>>142119846
Sure, Luffy has plenty of moves using his legs. He used a few leg moves in G3 too, it's pretty much obligatory to see at least one in G4.
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>>142119824
>using the anime
You're not helping your claim anon
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>>142119905
You seem skeptical of this whole pun business. Even though her moveset literally depends on them

>>142119846
If he does do it, it won't be as a tribute for Sanji. Sanji's not dead.
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>>142119905
Bottom line: You have no proof that Violet has armament haki and I have the fact that Oda always uses puns and the techniques name on top of that. But hey, believe whatever you want to. I won't waste anymore time with a thick headed faglord like yourself.
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>>142119938

What claim?
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>>142119646
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>>142119976
No proof? Her tears are black. Tears aren't black. She calls them iron and cannot produce iron. Buso makes things hard. Iron is hard.

Otherwise her tears would just splash on the henchman. Puns and armament aren't mutually exclusive. Don't tie your ego to fiction because you are acting foolish right now.
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>>142119984
That her move is strictly a pun and she is not using busoshoku. Also I'm certain in the next few frames the whales turn to black.
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>>142119935
King kong stamp
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>>142120087
The technique is literally called "IRON TEAR WHALE ATTACK". That is the sole reason the whale tears are made out of iron and depicted black in the manga, not freaking armament haki. "Tears aren't black." In One Piece they are as you can see, and there is a load of other crazy shit in this manga as well if you have not noticed. What do you not get about this? What is wrong with you? The only one who is in full headcanon-fanfic mode is you.
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>>142120274
Just stop wasting your time. There is no point.
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>>142119646

i am laffin
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>>142120274
Why are you separating the techniques? It seems silly to dismiss the properties of armament, along with a reference to it, just because of a pun.

I'm saying it's called iron whale because she is using armament.
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>>142120274
what proof do we have that they are black? in the colored manga and the anime they are orange/red
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>>142120376
>I'm saying it's called iron whale because she is using armament.
There have been other characters who coated their df attacks in haki and did not add something like "iron XXX" to the attacks name. but please, by all means stay deluded, jesus christ.
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>>142119646
Fixed the symbol on /pol/.
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>>142120403
Bottom frame, the whales are black once they separate from viola.
It even explains the pun for you guys. It doe not exclude armament being used.

Or are shiny black attacks that reference an aspect of hardening not buso haki anymore?
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>>142120470
Where? Pre timeskip is moot due to the change in visual mechanics.
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>>142120712
You know when hot iron (half of the attack's name, mind you) cools down it goes from red/orange to dull gray, right?
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>>142120754
Luffy?
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>>142120763
exactly what I wanted to say. them being red like hot iron backs it up even more that they are made out of iron and not black because of armament haki
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>>142120712
Considering that she literally says Hot Iron and it changes from Orange to Black like, gee i dunno, Hot fucking Iron, no. It's not goddamn Buso. Sure, it doesn't exclude anything but the overwhelming logic is that it is a simple pun based attack.
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>>142120712
Why can't you see that you are grasping at straws?
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>>142116160
he was mihawk's rival by that time for world strongest swordsman. Even whitebeard commented about how their duel was a huge affair then. Holy shit you speedreader.

Oda just hadn't invented armament haki at that time. Heck he probably came up with the black design after marineford when his editor told him to make it more visible.
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>>142120879
And I'm saying why can't it be both? It's stated that haki is necessary to survive in the new world. Viola worked for one of the strongest shichibukai for ten years on the new world.

Logic dictates she is using armament and it makes a pun. Being so adamant it is a joke and nothing is just foolish, honestly. You are dismissing everything but it being a joke, as if that voids armament- but even then, it doesn't.

If it looks like armament, references armament and enhances an attack like armament...well it just might be armament.
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>>142120945
Grasping at straws is denying any possibility of the alternative because it's a pun. Being a pun does not exclude armament.
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>>142121034
>haki is necessary to survive in the new world
That doesn't mean every single character is going to have Haki. It just means that those without it are going to get royally fucked up by those with Haki unlocked, and knowing it yourself will help the beating hurt less.

How many of the Straw hats don't have Haki, yet there they are in the New World, going up against once-Government scientists, Warlords and Emperors?
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>>142120843
Viola can't create iron but anyone can use armament.
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>>142121005
>Oda just hadn't invented armament haki at that time.
So what? This does not mean it can not be ret-conned. And no matter what some faggots say this page right here >>142114733 gives us the most obvious explanation for why Shanks lost his arm.
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>>142121123
It is a pun-based magical fruit technique. You are reading One Piece here, if you have not noticed.
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>>142121114
I'm not saying every character has it. I'm saying someone who displayed properties of armament, who worked under someone known to train his subordinates, is using it.
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>>142121170
Puns and armament aren't mutually exclusive. It literally can be both.
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>>142121123
Holy fucking CHRIST MAN! Doffy also can not produce fire or insane heat and yet he can produce a red-hot string because the technique is called overh-ITO (yes, another pun). Now please shut the fuck up.
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>>142120777
When?
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>>142121294
Every single time he uses a armament technique? Did you maybe read my post wrong or something?
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>>142119646
I'm dead
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>>142121289
That technique isn't referencing an aspect of hardening. Your claim is off-topic and unsubstantial at best.
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>>142121365
just kill yourself please
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>>142107857

Big Mom forces people from all over the world to inhabit her islands so she can have them to produce sweets from all over the world for her,

Sanji will probably get a hint about All Blue this Arc, since All Blue is a sea with fish from all over the world.
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>>142121327
His buso techniques are named differently than traditional attacks. It makes sense that the mc follows slightly different conventions than other characters.
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>>142121413
>Big Mom forces people
They seem happy though
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>>142121413
All blue doesn't exist right now. It will be created after red line gets destroyed.
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>>142121433
>grasping at straws intensifies
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>>142121499
You have no substantial counter-argument.
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>>142121460
>>>/One Piece podcast/
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>>142121413

All Blue is the sea surrounding Raftel.
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>>142121444

Chocolate is a strong anti-depressive
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>>142121547
I think you are just trolling at this point. No way that someone is this thick headed and deluded.
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>>142119646
This is the new "First page out"
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>Jobber Jack
>Jobberjack
>Jabberwock
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>>142121664
is this supposed to be funny?
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>>142108845

Caesar should join Buggy's crew
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>>142121615
The only thing you can say is
>it's only a pun it can't be anything else because i said so
When Doffy has canon evidence of training his crew. When it is stated haki is necessary in the new world. When her younger sister is proficient in a form of haki. When her attack reference a hardening technique. When her tears are shiny and black (don't fall back on the orange because we both can see they are black on impact). I don't think I am the thick-headed one here...
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>>142108122

Franky should better build them cyborg arms.

Imagine Franky turning the elephant into the biggest Battle Franky yet. He spent 2 years in an island where animals were turned into cyborgs.
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>>142121750
>When Doffy has canon evidence of training his crew. When it is stated haki is necessary in the new world
and still only vergo and pica used haki
and bellamy
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>>142121204
Dellinger did not have armament haki, not even Lao Ghad armament haki, Gladius also did not have it, Senor Pink and Baby5 as well. Oh, Monet also did not have it. Your argument is ivalid.
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>>142121847
It is not invalid, what I said is true. Other characters not using buso doesn't mean Viola doesn't have it. Your claim is pretty embarrassing actually.
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>>142121750
>When Doffy has canon evidence of training his crew
>>142121842 >>142121847
>When it is stated haki is necessary in the new world.
>>142121114
>When her younger sister is proficient in a form of haki.
How is that even an argument?
>When her attack reference a hardening technique
But it doesn't. It is called HOT IRON and it is shown behaving like hot iron.
>When her tears are shiny and black
You mean just like iron, like the technique is called?
>I don't think I am the thick-headed one here...
Yeah, you are just trolling at this point and fishing for (you)s
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>>142121842
That's if you dismiss everything about Viola and her attack for the sake of whatever. She used armament as well.
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>>142122017
The iron is a reference to haki.
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>>142122090
It isn't
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>>142122017
The iron is a reference to haki. Her sister using haki means her family is aware of it. Rebecca did not learn buso due to the events surrounding her mother and soldier-san.

And forgive my mistake, Viola is her aunt, not sister.

So, being aware of haki and training under someone who is known to train his subordinates, along with using an attack that references haki means she is using haki.
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>>142122104
Why? And saying
>it's a pun
Doesn't void my claim. It can be both.
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>>142122090
>>142122197
fuck off, just shut your stupid, stinking, smelly semen hole
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>>142108070
I like this meme
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What should we call this fag? "Viola-Armamentfag sounds a bit strange. Any suggestions?
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>>142122256
You have no substantial counter-argument. Resorting to ad hominem is not necessary.
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>>142122324
>putting a name to something irrelevant
Just don't bother naming it and it'll be easier to forget.
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>>142122250
Because the attack is called HOT IRON and behaves exactly like hot iron does. It's red/orange at first and then it cools down and turns black/grey like iron does.
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>>142112943
He gave his arm to teach Luffy a lesson.
The man who will unify the world as One Piece.

He gave something as ephemeral and insignificant as one limb to save and better the lives of millions.
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>>142122396
Viola cannot create iron but anyone can use haki. That, along with being in the new world where haki is stated to be necessary, along with her family known to use haki, along with working for someone known to train his subordinates points to haki.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and behaves like a duck, it's a duck. Not solely a pun just because.
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>>142122501
You are just repeating yourself and bring arguments that have already been refuted. Can you just stop this cringeworthy farce already?
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>>142119646
More /int/ than pol.
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>>142122590
You have no refutation though so I feel the need to repeat myself.
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>>142122501
>Viola cannot create iron but anyone can use haki
>>142121289
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>>142122501
She literally does create it though. That's where the puns come in. Like Doffy's Overheat. It looks like Hot Iron, Behaves like Hot Iron, is called Hot Iron.

But no lel its tits haki cuz i sed so durr
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>>142122634
That technique does reference any aspect of hardening. That's called inductive reasoning and is very flimsy to stand on.
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>>142122614
>You have no refutation though
fucking kill yourself you obnoxious piece of shit
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>>142122667
And the hot iron is a reference to haki. It is a pun and haki. It can be both.
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>Viola literally used armament Haki to make her tears like iron
>people deny she can use armament Haki
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>>142122687
You're only proving my point. Ad hominem is not necessary and does not make you correct.
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>>142122687

And now you're using petty insults in lieu of valid counter-arguments.
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please stop replying to him guys. Let him believe viola used haki. Not like she will ever use it again.
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>>142122501
LOOK YOU FUCKING NIGGER. Use the vision based fruit that God gave you. Use your fucking eyes. Fucking open those two useless holes and see for once in your miserable fucking life.
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>>142122719
>And the hot iron is a reference to haki
That is your headcanon, nothing else. So far we had not a single other character calling his techniques "Iron xxx" or making any other references to haki.
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>>142122719
>hot iron is a reference to haki
You aren't understanding that is isn't.
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>>142119646
Brilliant
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>>142122780
I posted the original further up the thread. The tears are shiny and black in the bottom panel, just like armament haki.
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>>142122734
she literally did not
>>142122757
I already told you that your points have all been refuted and I won't repeat myself like you fucking faggot.
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>>142108070
>Jack stays in the bottom of the sea and we never see him again
>Kaido gives his position to Drake
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>>142122719
Except it's not. You just said that she can't do this and now you're backtracking. Like you fucking said, if something has all the similarities of a duck, it probably is a duck. The fucking attack literally has the same properties of Hot Iron and not goddamn Haki.
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>>142122785
I've yet to see any substantial claim that it isn't. The move can be a pun and haki. In fact, the use of haki bolsters the pun. They play off of each other.
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>>142122827
>The tears are shiny and black in the bottom panel, just like armament haki.
Yeah, and you are convienently ignoring that they were red/orange at first and then turned black. You know, just like iron.
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>>142122827
>Oh let me just use this attack without any haki and suddenly use haki to just damage the floor

Or

>Hot Orange iron cools into a datk colour like Hot Iron does

Gee. I fucking wonder what it could be.
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>>142122843
Lel okay. I am willing and patient to talk you through this.
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Guys, just stop replying to this goddamn faggot. I bet he is having the time of his life watching you taking his bait and feeding him (you) after (you).
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>>142122827
By your retarded logic everything black has Haki. Did Zoro inexplicably just use permanent Haki when weilding and not weilding Shusui?
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>>142122781
>>142122785
>>142122852

That's head-in-the-sand thinking of the worst kind.
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>>142122876
Lots of Paramecia-class devil fruits have been shown to produce something from the user's body that they should not be able to. Poison, wax, extra limbs, soap bubbles, spring, voodoo dolls, etc. How is it that producing iron from the use of her devil fruit is impossible to you?
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>>142122973
Not an argument
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>>142122973
And this is iron-y.
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>>142122852
I haven't backtracked on anything. Haki has the properties of iron, hardening an attack in a shiny black coat. The initial orange glow to black is the pun, the black is haki.
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>>142112060
Why the hell would he be
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>>142122973
Better than your head-in-the-ass thinking
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>>142123036
>The initial orange glow to black is the pun, the black is haki.
Holy crap, you just can't be for real
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>>142122968
Shusui has never changed colors. We clearly see Viola's tears change colors. Please, find a better argument.
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>>142123036
Or the black is the cooled iron. It makes no sense for the attack to suddenly have Haki when it had none when she used it. What, the fucking CoA decided that it'll play cool and come late to the party?
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>>142123103
Yes. Like
Hot.
Fucking.
Iron.

Please, find a functioning brain.
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When is holoholo girl gonna come back?
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>>142123005
Her fruit is vision based, not iron. So an iron based attack is infused with haki. Her family knows haki. Doffy trains his subordinates and haki is necessary in the world.

She is using armament haki.
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>>142123148
Whenever Moria makes his location public so she can actually find the guy.
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>>142123092
I absolutely am.
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>>142123147
And the iron is a reference to haki.
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>>142123177
Doffy's fruit is string based. Not Fire Creation. Rebecca has only showed CoO. The majority of the Doflamingo Pirates did not use CoA despite being the New World.

I'm sure you will continue to just repeat some stale line again. Let's see.
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>>142123262
which is your headcanon
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>>142123191
Moria is dead
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>>142123262
So the Orange bit was just for style points, huh.
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>>142107857
Minks (along with other people) have been disappearing on Big Mom's territory and they send some people to investigate.
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>>142123290
You wish, WG.
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>>142123272
Doffy using fire doesn't mean Viola is not using armament. That is not sound reasoning.
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>>142123318
Sure, it bolsters the pun for you. The pun does not dismiss the use of haki.
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>most important fight of her life
>knows CoA
>doesn't cover leg in haki

why is viola so stupid?
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>>142123357
You know what is not sound reasoning? Thinking that the first part fo a attack is a pun and then it decides to become armament haki.
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>>142123357
Doffy using Fire does mean his fruits capabilities reach further using puns. Just like Viola. Unless you think Viola can just magically control her tears to reach molten iron levels of temperature and colour.
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>>142123279
Only if you ignore every context surrounding the new world, viola's life and the properties of her attack.
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>>142123318

Luffy also made his Haki glow. Perhaps you should read the manga from time to time.
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>>142119646
fucking anon
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>>142123425

She's a woman written by Oda.
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>>142123475
fuck off, one shitposting faggot is more than enough
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>>142123425

She was already low on stamina. Besides, these aren't real people but fictional characters. If they don't use a certain technique, it's because Oda doesn't want them to. Why didn't Doffy use Parasyte against the strawhats? Why didn't he use birdcage during the war?
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>>142123425
Obviously because her leg isn't named Iron. If it was, hoo boy, you better believe that she used haki. Cause, you know, Iron.

>>142123409
>If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and behaves like a duck, it's a duck
If it looks like Hot Iron, has properties like Hot Iron, behaves like Hot Iron, it's Hot Iron.
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>>142123435
I'm saying the entire attack is haki. I'm only helping you cross the bridge by saying the color change is for the pun.
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>>142123441
explain this then>>142123425
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>>142123527
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>>142123579

Nice strawman.
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>>142123440
I guarantee you can an instance where fire and string are related. Tears, whales and iron are a little different. She molds her tears with buso, it fits your pun and depicts haki.
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>>142123527
>Why didn't Doffy use Parasyte against the strawhats?
He did. Against Sanji and Luffy
>Why didn't he use birdcage during the war?
Yeah, and then getting gang raped by everyone including the admirals, other Shichibukais, Sengoku and Garp
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>>142123546
>Enel 48
feels comfy.
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>>142123528
And the iron is a reference to haki.
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>>142123546
this character will die
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>>142123624
Except the Haki isn't visible when she uses the attack and according to you, onky shows up after she already cut them and the attack has covered some distance. That is not how CoA works at all. Haki doesn't just magically pop into an attack in the middle.
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>>142123655
You enjoy starting the whole argument with posts like these all over again, do you you little troll?
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>>142123665
noo
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>>142123655
This is literally your only line of argument. I know this is quite fun but just know that everyone realises what's happening here.
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>>142123699
I'm not saying that's how it works. The haki is used from the start. The color change is for the pun.
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>>142123624
>She molds her tears with buso
She doesn't. When the whale tears leave her eyes they are fresh hot red iron which cools down mid air and thus turns black. And she can do that because it is a pun based attack in a fantasy manga where shit like this just works.
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>>142123792
>The color change is for the pun.
Still your most stupid argument
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>>142123749
Here is my argument laid out for you
Haki is stated to be necessary in the world.
Viola's family is aware of haki.
Doffy trains his subordinates.
Viola's attack references an aspect of hardening.
Tears are not black.
Black tears indicate haki.
The color change indicates the pun.
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>>142123821
The pun does not exclude the use of haki.
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>>142123792
I repeat, that's not how Haki works. Haki always covers the attack. It's either invisble or bkack. It doesn't pop up in the middle of a projectile. If Buso was used, the Orange would have been coveres by Black i stead of materialising out of nowhere.

Your best bet is to shitpost about how she used invisble CoA.
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>mfw patiently waiting for Bonney to join
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>>142123945
Luffy flows red in gear 4 with the use of buso haki.
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>hot iron is a reference to haki
the fuck? no one really believes this right?
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>>142123989
only in the anime
not in the manga see pic related
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stop replying to the autist already idiots
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>>142124068
I do.
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>>142124068
Just this one obsessed retard in this thread
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>>142109767
>Puffy Lips
>Rounder Eyes
>A Third Eye

She more Koala than Nami, hell I take another Koala than another Nami.
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>>142123989
>animefag

kys
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>>142123881
Here is my counter argument
Plenty of people have shown to not have Haki in the New World
Viola was never stated or seen to be trained by ner family or Doffy
The majority of Doffy's subordinates does not use Haki despite being in the New World and having plenty of pirate experience
Viola's attack is called and portrayed as literal Hot Iron
Strings don't magically burst into flames
Black swords does not indicate Haki
The colour change does indicate the oun. Of being Hot Iron.

Good job, you got the last one right!
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>>142124088
Fair point.
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>>142123989
Ahahahahha

>>142124068
>>142124135
He doesn't. It's just a farm for (You)s. He literally only has one line that he keeps going back.
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>>142124143
Your last two claims are inductive and do not deny argument. Viola's family using haki along with her referencing hardening means she is using haki. The pun does not exclude the use of haki. The iron is a reference to haki.
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>>142124182
I feel the need to repeat myself when I see similar, poor, counter-arguments.
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>>142124224
>The iron is a reference to haki
Literally headcaon. Come back whe you have an actual argument, shitposter
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>>142124283
It's headcanon if you deny every cicrumstance surrounding Viola and her attack.
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>>142124224
>The iron is a reference to haki.
Why do you believe that? Never even once we had a character with a technique that has a haki reference in its name. You are pulling this out of nowhere.
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>>142124224
Alright, buddy. This is my last (You) for you. Gotta admit, it was pretty fun.
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>>142124365
Because the technique is shiny and black.
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>>142124376
I suppose it's fine to have different opinions on the matter. Nothing really changes from it. You did give me some points to consider, I had fun as well.
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>>142124331
Nice non-argument, shitposter. it has literally nothing to do with haki.
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>>142124395
like my dick.
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>>142124395
So what? Luffys attacks are shiny and black as well. Yet he does not call them "Gomu Gomu no IRON Gatling"
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>>142124482
It is an argument. Everything points to her using haki. The move is enhanced with hardening. Saying she isn't using haki because other characters can't use it is not substantial. Saying she isn't using haki because it's a pun is not substantial. Saying she isn't using haki because Doffy can use fire is not substantial. Those are all inductive arguments and are very difficult to affirm.
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>>142124508
No he has a different names for his haki attacks though that suggest an improvement from their previous moveset.
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>>142124650
So why should Viola be a special snowflake who uses IRON as a reference to haki in her attack name?
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>>142124331
The circumstances are the attack has hot iron in the name because the tears become really hot and glow like HOT IRON.
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>>142124725
Because it doubles as a pun
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>>142124609
>Saying she isn't using haki because it's a pun is not substantial.
It is, since some techniques just work like that because you can make a pun with them. It just is a One Piece thing, thats it.
>Saying she isn't using haki because Doffy can use fire is not substantial.
The argument here is that Oda is using the same pattern here like he does with Viola. Giving the df power of a character propertys outside of their base fruit powers because you can make puns with it.
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>>142121124

>gives us the most obvious explanation for why Shanks lost his arm.

This is where plebs make my case. Hody is a new world villain, he's filled with steroids in that fight and was able to withstand haki punches from post timeskip Luffy. His bite is stronger than of a sea monster in East Blue. If his bite can't rip Luffy's arm apart then Shanks who spent his whole life in New world, Shanks who clashed swords with Mihawk, Shanks who was already a legendary fighter when he first appeared should've been able to armor himself against a very weak sea monster.
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>>142124756
I think the only thing that just doubled is your retardation
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>>142124875
I'm saying it's easy to find a relation to string and fire - a candle wick, for example. Tears, whales, and iron are slightly less relatable. It can be a pun and haki in Viola's case.
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>>142124904
And you still do not know how Shanks condition was when he saved Luffy no matter what you say. And you keep ignoring that a sea monster of this size has a bite strength that far surpasses Hodys.
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>>142124911
Wow that was really clever
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>>142112060

I forgot for a while that this terrible design exists.
Thx odama.
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>>142120712
You're clearly autistic if you can't tell that that's not haki. You're reaching for any bit of proof just to hold a stupid arguments. Plus why would she waste Haki on fodder
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>>142125037
Because the tears would just splash on them without any reinforcement.
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>>142124956
It think it is a pretty safe bet that Oda did not think about something as far-fetched as a candle wick when making Doffy able to create a red-hot string which is called overh-ITO which includes a more than obvious pun.
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>>142107951
Is this the new meme
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>>142125113
they do not need reinforcement because they are literally fucking IRON
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>>142125169
Viola can't create iron...anyone can use haki.
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>>142125194
She can because this is One Piece, where things work because you can make puns with them. Period.
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>>142125128
Thinking it's a safe bet. That's two steps away from certainty and therefor unsubstantial.
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>>142125258
It is more substantial than your bullshit at least
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>>142125227
And that is the weakest counter-argument. It can be a pun and haki.
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>>142125015
Would you say he's your least favourite design? He's my least favourite that's for sure.
>All that excitement about Shiki with his crazy powers being the 7th
>Instead we got this guy
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>>142125298
It is not since it is an established in-universe rule
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>>142125291
It isn't. I am using canon evidence for every step of my argument.
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>>142121460
I hate this "theory". This means that both Zeff and Sanji were wrong this whole time about their dream and everyone that mocked them about believing in something that isn't real was right to do so.

Why would anyone want this to be the case? It's like saying that the Rio Poneglyph doesn't exist until Robin carves it or something. It's bullshit.
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>>142112943
Because Oda is a FUCKING HACK ON CRACK.
He's just a nigger making up shit on the go without even looking back and thinking about what made his manga great in the first place and then he goes home and rapes his own daughter because he thinks it's Nami or some kind of shit.
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>>142125015
>>142125304
Go back to Bleach if you want edgy nothing personnel designs
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>>142125332
Source? You're saying it can't be haki because it's a pun. I'm saying it can be both. They are not mutually exclusive.
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>>142125304
>actually thinking a movie villain will be a shichibukai
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>>142122771
>Not like she will ever use it again.
Or ever.
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>>142125400
>Source?
read the freaking manga
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>>142125371
>He's introduced having slaughtered and burnt down an entire town
>Implying he's not edgy
>>142125413
That expectation was caused by the preceding chapter, with a long lion's mane being the only visible trait of the 7th shichi.
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>>142125371

Coribou looks the same, but better, and was a very minor character.

For a new warlord, oda can do much better m8, no need to drag Nobackgroundz into this.
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>>142124976

>Size

You can't use size to measure somethings strength. The very sea monster who bit Shanks arm was beaten by kid Luffy in a single punch. Haki saved Luffy's arm against Hody who was 1000 times stronger than a sea monster in east blue.
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>>142125452
So you're saying you have no arguments.
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>>142118831

And then proceeds to end a war merely drawing and blocking a lava punch. His strength these days may be be as leader or knowledge. We still don't know how he delayed kaido. Loss of arm just means hawkeye > shanks in a sword fight.

Yes loosing an arm is dumb, but 'next gen hope' and armour haki not working on all sharp objects is known.
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>>142125113
>tears would splash
who's to say? This is one piece of a doesn't care about real world logic

>viola can't make iron
Once again who's to say? Kuma can push shit with a paw fruit, law can Teleport, Hancock can make bullets etc. ... all of those have Nothing to do with the actual power yet they can do it. Stop applying your logic to OP
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>>142125490
The manga is the source faggot, plain and simple and if you have read it at a normal speed you would know about the established in-universe rule about techniques that work because of puns you goddamn idiot
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>>142125488
Lord of the Coast is Roger's pet. It has been watching over Luffy this whole time.
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>>142107951

Puts the glove on after he spots the enemy? Does it make sense to wear heavy gloves when not fighting?
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>>142125488
>You can't use size to measure somethings strength.
Are you for real? Then tell me which is stronger: The bite of a mouse or the bite of a lion
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>>142125564
The use of a pun does not discredit the use of haki in Viola's case.
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>>142125572
>tried to eat Luffy
>Luffy punches it away years later
some guardian
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>>142112196
>>142112368

Can someone post the panel where Capone says the name Pudding to Sanji while on Zou with Nami Brook and Chopper present?
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>>142125620
so all we have to go on is your headcanon? wow, great argument.
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>>142125620
It does. The pun is about hot iron whales so she shoots hot iron whales that cool off and turn into solid iron, then they hit the ground. No haki used at any time.
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>>142125131
Everything in there is a fact. How is that a meme
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>>142125547
Those abilities are all tangentially related to the fruit. Kuma can repel things. Cupid shoots love arrows, Hancock has the love fruit. Law can manipulate anything in his operation room.

You're straying from Viola here.
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>>142125646
What better way to protect someone from the horrors of the ocean than by being held hostage inside it's body? Only idiots like Luffy would mess with a Sea King.

>>142125620
Why are you still here
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>>142125646
It was testing him.
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>>142125698
nothing about this is actually fact
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>>142125646
The crazy thing? He was never going to eat Luffy, just test him a bit. Shanks fucked up there so his intense stare is actually him saying, "i swear to god if you fuck this up any further you will be my shit by tomorrow". LotC didn't know Luffy just ate a devil fruit.
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>>142125746
Your statement is false
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>>142125547
>law can Teleport
Actually he can't teleport, he hast to switch his body with something. And it has to do with his powers because in a OP room you can switch organs and stuff.
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>>142125678
And I'm saying the iron is a reference to haki. An enhanced, hardened version of her tears.
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>>142112519

No do you have it by chance
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>>142125822
Your statement is false
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>>142125822
No, your statement is false.
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>>142125839
This is just stupid
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>>142125857
>>142125867
I disagree
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>>142114080

>Shanks wasn't a haki genius all along. The selfless act to save Luffy and in turn sacrifice an arm, somehow gave Shanks the worlds strongest haki? He was a great swordsman that used basic haki, a la dressrosa random marines, but didn't obtain conquerors (and likely observation) until afterwords. His focus on using haki on his sword only (to save energy for longer duels) caused his armorer haki to develop slowly.

1/1000 possible ways for Oda to fill this "plothole"
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>>142125648
Last page of 812
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>>142125901
If this is the last thing any of you can say, it means you are wrong.
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Is big mom going to try and eat luffy?
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>>142126016
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you happy.
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>>142125913
Thing is, whenever someone claims to disagree with fact it's custom to just laugh at how unbelievably stupid that person is. This is me laughing at how stupid you are.
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>>142126063
>this is me laughing at you
Edgy 16 year old? I'm not surprised. You still have not said what is not true from that post. Choppa and Nami did hear pudding name. He fucked up with the hand too.
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>>142125950
After reading the chapters again I noticed that it is actually Caesar wo mentions Big Moms daughter. Nami and Chopper only say "Tea Party?" and "Wedding?" There is no confirmation if they even heard her name being called.
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>>142125941
this
i don't know what the hody-poster thinks, but i used that picture too a while ago.
My point was not to compare the strength of hody and the sea monster, the point is that haki can be broken by brute force.

And this makes it so easy for oda to fix it, that it's pointless to discuss.
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>>142126141
You said that "everything is fact" which it isn't.
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>>142125600

Doesn't matter. Hody's bite is 100% stronger than a shit sea monster in east blue.
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>>142126204
They heard Capone when he said wedding nigga why would they not hear her name. Don't be a retard
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>>142126296
Again, there is no confirmation of that. Only Caesar brings up the daughter part of the conversation.
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>>142126141
>edgy 16 year old?
Typical projection attributed to angsty teenagers on /a/

1. They forgot the name
2. Gloves can be put on and taken off. Did you know that?
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>>142126296
Even if they heard the name it is not something you focus on when hearing news like this. The more important things are that the wedding takes place and that the daughter is Big Moms. Nobody cares about the name.
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>>142126353
>no confirmation
>Capone says he is getting married on the last page.
>The next chapter literally starts with Nami and chopper saying Wedding.
Skipping our pills are we anon?
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>>142126454
Yeah, they mention the wedding and the tea pary. nothing about the name of Big Moms daughter.
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>>142126204
I think Capone does mention Pudding but you could be right that they didn't hear it.
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>>142126391
>>142126436
>not important to focus
>forgot the name
I'm pretty sure they are taking this shit seriously. Nami even said they had to go urgently. There's no way they forgot her name. Oda just fucked up
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>>142125702
paws literally have Nothing to pushing. cupid shoot love arrows which don't do physical harm. Hancock powers are suppose to turn you into stone not become a real bullet which can even hurt rubber. Teleporting has nothing to do with being a surgeon and even if you say he replace stuff there has been times when he didn't replace anything. And if we talking about relate, the human body gets rid of iron through sweat and tears. So as I said oda takes idea and stretch them
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>>142126557
>I'm pretty sure they are taking this shit seriously. Nami even said they had to go urgently.
And? The name has shit to do with that.
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>>142126557
Nope, you're just an idiot. They simply didn't make the connection.
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>>142126516
>>142126531
Why would they hear 'wedding' 'tea party' and not pudding? They also heard Sanji's name because then why would they care about a wedding. They did hear her name.
Oda will make Nami choppa or Brook comment on that fact next chapter. Because he fucked up this chapter.
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>>142126568
>there has been times when he didn't replace anything.
when? please post panels since I can't remember
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>>142126277
That idea comes from real world physics. Sea monster is larger, bigger jaws makes a stronger bit force with more weight behind makes for a pretty gnarly attack. Whether that passes in one piece is a different story.

I guess Luffy does need a bigger body to deal more damage, so there's that.
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>>142126614
>>142126616
>they didn't make the connection
That's your way of saying I'm right. They are not stupid. Maybe Luffy couldn't make a connection but the other 3 should
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>>142126646
Oh I think they heard it, I was just being polite.
In the latest chapter Nami was sort of guarded around Pudding, I think this is why.
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>>142126715
come on now, chopper definitely shouldn't.
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>>142126715
No, I'm really saying the complete opposite.

>they are not stupid
So? Being smart doesn't mean you don't forget names or make connections.
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>>142126762
Yeah, Brook should and Nami especially should. She is not dumb
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>>142126646
They did not focus on some trival shit like the name of the daughter. It is a useless detail which you forget immediately even if you hear it, since you focus on the more important stuff like Sanji has to wed and that it is a daughter of Big Mom. And if Oda makes Nami & Co say "Wait, didn't we hear the name Pudding before?" then it is not him acknowledging he fucked up but him showing that the characters did not made the connection right away.
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>>142126683

That sounds like your headcannon man.
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>>142126814
Well you're not smart so you wouldn't know anon.
When there's something important going on you remember everything.
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>>142126814
And Chopper is pretty absent minded about anything other than medicine.
Brook only pays attention if panties are on play. Seeing as how there wasn't a picture of her then, he may not have been listening.
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>>142126896
But you're wrong anon
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>>142126896
>When there's something important going on you remember everything.
Nope, when you are shocked you only focus on the real big chunks of the news you just heard. You brush the trivial details aside. This is typical human behaviour when being under stress.
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>>142126877
Physics? Lol.
And Luffy definitely needed a bigger body to out down nearly all of his tougher enemies.
Lucci
Moriah
Hody
Doffy
Size does correlate with strength.
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>>142126851
no he did fucked up. He needed to include that this chapter because this is when they heard her Nami.

>immediately forget
That's bullshit. Nami remembers Sanji telling her he is from north blue long ass time ago. She wouldn't forget who the fuck he is getting married to.
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>>142126656
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>>142126896
When there's something important going on you don't focus on trivial information. You focus on the task at hand, which is rescuing Sanji.

Don't worry, I can tell you're not the sharpest tool in the she.
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>>142127013
What's this? My sanafag radar is reacting.
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>>142127017
He used air molecules
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>>142126975
>>142127056
>you only focus on the big chunks
Okay, but that's what retard people like you do. We are talking about calm people here. Maybe Brook and chopper can't make the connection but the slut can. Especially since only her and Luffy were the most worried for Sanji
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>>142127017
there is something in his hand though, seems like he picked up some pebble to switch it with his hat
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>>142127137
that's his thumb b0se
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>>142127135
This just means that Nami was the most upset so it makes even more sense that she does not remember every trivial detail
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>>142127062
Sure start calling me a sanafag since you know I'm right.
Read the fucking story and don't focus on shipping you faggot
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Rocky says it the best
>it's not how hard you can hit, it's how hard you can get hit.
LotC is probably strong af. That doesn't mean he can take a hit very well. After all he is probably apex predator in his niche environment so he hasn't needed to defend himself much.
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>>142127135
Grasping at straws kiddo. If she's the one most worried about Sanji she's going to focus on rescuing him, not some girl he's marrying. But good try.
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I WANNA FUCK PEKOMS TIGHT FURRY BOY PUSSY ROOOOAAARRR
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>>142127187
can't be, not from this perspective. try this with your own hand and see if you can make your thumb appear like this between your last 2 fingers
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>>142127216
I'm just fucking around. Chill brocohantas.
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>>142127254
Hey <3
GAO!!
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>>142127247
You need 2 person to get married. Hate to break it to you but you can't married your hand. They know puddings name. Oda just forgot it.
Next chapter >hurr hurr isn't she the one Sanji suppose marry??
Unless pudding herself tells them. It will still be a Oda fuck up
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>>142127265
Yes I could. It looks like a thumb outline. Like I said oda super stretch with laws broken ability. So viola using the iron in her body isn't crazy
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>>142127409
>You need 2 person to get married.
Yeah, but it does not fucking matter to Nami and the others what the name of the person who marries Sanji is. It is useless information. Why the fuck are you even so obsessed with this whole "hurrrr Oda fuckd up >:O" business?
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>>142127440
>So viola using the iron in her body isn't crazy
This has literally nothing to do with Laws ability being "broken" or not. Stop trying so hard.
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>>142127012

When Luffy punch Hody with a normal sized punch Hody flew and make a tunnel in the mountains from the impact. I take it was a pretty strong punch. Size doesn't correlate with strength at all times. Obviously Hody's bite is stronger than a sea monster in East blue and he's more durable compared to the sea monster. I would say Hody could beat that sea monster with his ass.
Also Doflamingo stopped Law's sword with his hand covered in armament. His hand bled but still intact. Evidence says armament protects your hand/arm being chopped off but very sharp objects can still cause cuts on the surface.
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>>142127440
>It looks like a thumb outline.
It also looks like some object in his palm
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>>142127498
I'm jealous of his popularity, okay. You broke me. I had a dream to be the best mangaka out there and now I know it's nothing but fantasy. I hate him!
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>>142127498
He did fuck up. Why are you defending him? I'm not the only one who thinks that. It's pretty fucking obvious they heard her name and they know it.
>they forgot it
Even if they did. That name should be familiar. But nope that faggot didn't make none of them comment on it
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>>142127409
Still grasping at straws, are we kiddo? Who Sanji is marrying is not important. Rescuing Sanji is important, which is all they're focusing on.
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>>142127535
>this has Nothing to do with law power being broken
Well you clearly haven't been following the conversation and only care about law. The whole argument is about how viola shouldn't be able to use iron since it's not connected to her powers. Law was Really just an example of how oda just throws shit into abilities to make them strong, and teleporting was one of them
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>>142127552
So Shanks just had a really big fucking cut. A little larger than the size of his arm.
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>>142127611
>they shouldn't know
Don't let your extra chromosome bring you down anon.
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>>142127594
>He did fuck up.
Stop trying so hard to be right here, you aren't
>Why are you defending him?
Don't answer a question with a question.
>It's pretty fucking obvious they heard her name and they know it.
How is it obvious? Tell me exactly what makes it obvious that they heard the name or that they remembered it after hearing it a single time in a extremely stressful situation.
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>>142127688
Which is weird. You'd think it would just make you one chromosome smarter instead...what it actually is.
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>>142127688
Who are you quoting, retard?
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>>142109767
looks more like Perona than Nami
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>>142123527
>Why didn't he use birdcage during the war?
because he didn't care how the war turned out, he went there just to laugh at people and to witness the change in the age
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>>142127755
yeah man totally, especially the eyes amirite? :3
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>>142127579
No it doesn't. Plus why would oda make it so hard to tell if it was a rock? That's clearly his thumb outline, you just don't want to admit that teleporting really doesn't have Any thing to do with his power
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>>142127726
>I-I won't answer your question
All right. Another retard.

>>142127737
>being this new
Wew
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>>142127805
You are the one who did not answer my question you idiot.
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>>142127772
And shonen rule #1
>never reveal THAT technique unless absolutely necessary
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Reminder that Big Mom is Luffy's mother
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>>142127653

Absolutely not. If Law's blade can't cut Dofla's fingers or Hody can't chop off Luffy's arm because they used armament, then a weak sea monster can't chop off Shank's arm. That's where Oda fucked up and you plebs are trying to cover for him.
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>>142127794
>No it doesn't.
Yes it does. Law always switched something with something else when using his room. If he had the ability to just teleport wherever he wants to then he would not have thrown stones at Doffy when they fought to switch himself with them.
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>>142127819
Anon there's no way they heard wedding tea party Sanji and not hear puddings name. Oda just fucked up it's simple.
"Pudding?" "I heard that name before"
It was that simple, Oda should fire his editors for letting him out out that chapter
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>>142127216
>Everyone who remembered something at one point in the past will always remeber every other thing he hears in the future.
OK. Do you know how often people forget names of others that they heard several times? And you are telling me that it's impossible for Nami to forget a name she heard exactly once about a week ago in an extreme situation where the current threat was much more important?
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>>142127872
You're backtracking family. You said people can get cut eve with when using haki. Big jaws = big cut. Small arm = gone. That's the jig.
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>>142127594
They did forget it you dumb cunt. Or do you think that if they remembered the name they wouldn't say something like "hey, isn't Sanji marrying a girl named puddin, are you her?"

They'll only make the connection after the fact. It's literally one of the most common tropes of in existence, and you're unbelievably stupid for not realizing it.
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>>142127872
>then a weak sea monster can't chop off Shank's arm
It it not important how strong the sea monster is overall. It is the strength of his jaws that count that were a load of tons with this kind of size. Your own jaw has much more strength than your arm or leg muscles. Stop being a retard.
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>>142127953
Why and how is there no way that they did not hear her name? Again, show me exactly where this is confirmed. I don't want to hear your opinion, I want to see facts, my friend.
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>>142123546
TOGETHER WITH ZORO THE OTP
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>>142127956
>>142127965
>heard a week ago
It's an important name they have to remember. How can the slut remember something Sanji told her 3 years ago and not remember an important name form a week ago?
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>>142127962
>>142127968

What the fuck is strength of a jaw mean? If that sea king's jaw weighs 1000 pounds Hody's bite weighs 100000 pounds.
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>>142127965
Information is vital in covert missions like these. They don't want to reveal who they are, so they can't act like they have prior knowledge of Pudding. Why do you think they stopped Luffy from spouting his pirate king bit?
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>>142128058
Because when Sanji told her this she was not in an extreme situation you faglord.
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>>142127968
>Your own jaw has much more strength than your arm or leg muscles.
Damn, Zoro is cheating.
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Is Kong the strongest person in the WG?
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>>142128082
Sure, he was able to cut Luffy with the size of his jaws. LotC did the same thing with the size of his.
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>>142128136
>>142128136
>>142128136
NEW THREAD
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>mangastream
Go back to r.eddit
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>>142128082
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>142128120
Why else would Luffy name his strongest attacks as such? He singlehandedly stalemates all 5 Gorosei and keeps them at bay.
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>>142127852
No, the No.1 rule would be something like the Mc loves fighting for his friends
If everyone present at Marinford went all out Shanks would arrive at a pile of corpses on a broken island, with Kizaru telling him how scary it all was
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>>142128058
Protip: Memory does not always work according to what is factually important. People remember trivial shit yet forget the name of people they should know. It happens.
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>>142128207
Right, i'm saying people at marineford didn't go all out.
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>>142128150

Lotc wasn't as strong as Hody though. Kid Luffy one shot that sea monster. Hody took haki punches and still got up. Tell me who bites harder?
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>>142128233
This is not real life faggot. Oda is the one writing it. He just fucked up. He forgot that they heard puddings name. Manga characters are no real anon
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>>142128264

>>142127238
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>>142127238

>Gets owned in discussion

>Sea monster in east blue is probably stronger than Hody in New world.

Are you even trying anymore?
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>>142128058
It's called Oda is the writer of the fucking story you god damn idiot.

If he needs a character to remember a specific piece of information at a certain time, like how Nami remembered when Sanji told her where he came from, then that's what will fucking happen.

If he needs a character to conveniently forget a specific piece of information in order to use a common trope, like Nami forgetting Pudding's name, then that's what will fucking happen.
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>>142128572
Never said he was stronger, just that your point of luffy one shotting it means nothing.

And if you don't believe that statement you are probably plushy and soft.
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>>142128668
That's shit writing. He doesn't do that unless he forgets. He always addresses stuff like that. Next chapter he will do it watch. Trying to correct his mistake from this chapter
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>>142128731
Do you know how covert missions work?
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>>142128731
Nope, it's called Oda wanted Nami to forget Pudding's name so in the next chapter he could use the "hey didn't that girl we just meet have the same name as the girl Sanji is marrying" trope.

In the end, you'll still be wrong.
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>>142128673

All the sea monsters in OP world are weak creatures. You clearly agree with me on Hody being stronger than the east blue sea monster, what you can't realize there's been many instances where stronger forces than a sea king's bite went up against armament haki and never chop anyone's limbs. So it makes no sense Shanks losing an arm. Main reason why Shanks lost an arm is because Oda didn't think of haki back then.
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>>142128948
>Main reason why Shanks lost an arm is because Oda didn't think of haki back then.
That does not mean it can't be ret-conned. Shanks haki was not strong enough to protect his arm from the bite of a gigantic sea king. That is the most plausible explanation no fucking matter what you say and this single page supports this argument wether you like it or not>>142114733
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>>142109424
Carrot makes my heart feel funny. Doujins fucking when? The fuck is Japan waiting for?
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>>142129097

That single page supports my claim more than your sea king>Hody argument.
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>>142128948
>the sea monsters in OP world are weak

Yeah, those sea kings that destroy marine battle ships sure are weak. So much that the marines even needed to put a special coating on their ships so that sea kings wouldn't attack.
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>>142129158

Sea kings are as big as their ships Ships might get capsized if they dont take precautions.
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>>142129663
I know? That was my point, they're not weak.
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what if by the end of the arc, sanji still ends up marrying pudding, and the fact that he's married stops him from perving on other girls for the rest of the series?
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