Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1554

I love Japanese.

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ＤＪＴにようこそ！

Hey guys, is there a script that could transliterate Tae Kim's guide into full romanji? I want to learn grammar before I bother with kanas and kanjis so I can start watching anime and read before I start with the awful grind.

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>Well shit how do I pick then. Is there something like egs or vndb

>What's something compelling without an anime adaption?

I share this question.

>>142070738
Sorry, this is for LNs by the way. It was the last post in the last thread.

>>142070727
>romanji
>kanas
>kanjis
fdasfksjdfhkjasdfdf

>>142070727

No.

>>142070727
JUST learn japanese

>>142070727
Where does one find Japanese content written in romeji?

>>142070727
I know this is bait but come the fuck on

I'm coming back to try again after a little more than half a year, looking for some advice

For Anki, it recommends not resetting a deck after coming back because there will inevitably be cards you remember even if the process is slow. However after this long is it worth following that advice or would it be faster to just restart the deck? I was around 700 cards in.

>>142070974
dont reset

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Can someone please transcribe these?

変速集団キャラクター ギャグ開発中

What the fuck does this mean? I've been trying to figure out just what this means for a few days now.

"varying speed group character gags under construction"?

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>>142071203

>>142070727
Did your ban expire already?

>>142071203
koko made

gururito

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The only path to mastery is through hard work

>>142070974
因果応報

>>142070974
>create a new profile (don't delete the old one yet)
>add the deck you were doing before
>set new cards to 700
>make a strong cup of coffee
>force your way through the new cards

Now, depending on your performance, you may decided to:
>(if you remembered quite a lot of cards and/or easily relearned the ones you forgot after having your memory refreshed) return to your old profile the next day
>(if you remembered very little) start a new profile and begin again from scratch

Alternatively, you can just say "fuck it" and just start a mining deck instead (assuming you were using a pre-made deck like Core6K before).

>日本人の男の娘と結婚したい
>日本人になりたい！
>IT DevOpsで務めって、月収80万以上稼げられる
What is the probability of any of these happening?

>>142071249
やや
ナナメ
目尻らいん (?)

>>142070727
here is your first vocabulary word in romanji:

dekinai

>>142071667
How about you learn some Japanese first, I put that into a dictionary and nothing came up.

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>reading perfectly fine
>start mumbling the kanji i don't know how to say but still know the meaning of
>understand the sentence

how bad is this. i feel dumb but i just can't get the sound to stick. i'll get it eventually right

>>142071798
sono hanmen boku no chinko o shirabenasai

>>142071190
>>142071497
Just trying the deck out again makes me think fully resetting is not what I should now. Also, yes it's the standard 6k deck though I had kanji radical deck I was working through and a general kanji deck I had began but for less than a week.

For another method, what about halting new cards or heavily limiting them and increasing reviews for a few weeks?

>>142071924
It means you should re-evaluate your perception regarding the use of various board functions, such as, but not limited to, the quote (green text) and spoiler function (black box).

>>142071324
>>142071618
g-good enough, I see if it makes sense in the context, thank you.

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>>142072097
>It means you should re-evaluate your perception regarding the use of various board functions, such as, but not limited to, the quote (green text) and spoiler function (black box).
>caring about any of that

>>142072008
Yeah, it's probably a good idea to turn off new cards for a few days while you get back into the swing of things.

As for increasing reviews, you should have already set your max reviews/day setting to the maximum level (9999).

hi, currently in the process of learning hiragana as well as a bit of grammar. At what point do you start to learn words with the characters you've learned? I'm not too eager or in a rush to get to that point I just want a better understanding of what happens and when and the process of learning.

>>142072680
After you memorized all of the kana and start the core anki deck, so about 3 days in.

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Is there any way to view the edit history of the guide? I'm curious to see how its changed since it was made.

>>142072406
What's the methodology behind that? Do you just study as much as you feel like with that many reviews?

>>142072861
So is your paranoid shitposting.

>>142072856
If you don't have your reviews set to (practically) unlimited, you will interfere with the spaced repetition system which Anki employs since it won't be able to show you cards when they are due if there are too many other cards due on the same day.

>>142072811
thank you, i'm looking through anki right now, which decks should I use in the future?

https://ankiweb.net/shared/decks/japanese

>>142072861
What makes you think I ( >>142072831 ) am ban evading? I was asking seriously. I'd like to be able to see all the edits to the guide like you used to be able to with the old one.

Did you reply to my post by mistake?

>>142072992
Read the OP.

Can someone upload or tell me where to get only the first volume of キノの旅 / Kino no Tabi

nyaa has a megapack rar of all of them which doesn't let you select only one volume so yea..

>>142073047
and the megapack doesn't even have seeders

welp

>>142073047
It's in the CoR, you brainless ape.

>>142072861
much like your posting

>>142072328
酷い..

>>142072992
dude the guide has everything a beginner would ever need. look there before posting

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>>142073250
What the fuck is this? Why is it in pictures?

>>142073319
not true the guide does not have a free wanikani subscription

>>142073381
wheres your texthooker now biotch

better play hanahira instead 爆笑

>>142073381
That's how most LNs are. It might be different for more recent ones since many get digital releases now.

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>>142073381
Have you ever read Japanese? They have so many squiggles it would take 1000 years to type it all, so they just took pictures with their phones like any sensible person.
Post more pictures of this cute girl please.

>>142073522
Well what alternative sites are there, if not nyaa or the CoR? Even series with kindle versions have only pictures on nyaa

>>142073381
Try 詰め合わせ in the CoR. It's only text formats. Though I don't know if KnT is there it probably will be, as it's a pretty popular shit.

>>142073894
Not there unfortunately. Neither is 終末. Both CoR and nyaa is pretty lacking from what I can tell.

>>142071240
You need to give adequate context if you're going to ask a question like this.

Your translation is more or less correct, it's just an impressive-sounding title the manga artist gave himself because he's proud of churning out large numbers of gag characters.

Is there any language proficiency test that's either fully in kanas/romanji, or if it's an online one lets you use a text hooker? I've been reading for 2 years and I'm practically fluent and can understand anything, but never bothered to learn the kanjis.

>>142074244
i hope so this would help me alot

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?中はどうなってるのか

>>142074317
背中

>>142074317
are you joking dude it's in the first 500 words of core

>>142074317
背中
Next time put it into google translate, that shit is completely visible printed character.

>>142074341
>>142074374
>背
Thanks~

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>>142074087

>>142074552
I ctrl+f it in all five mega directories. What you have is something inside of another folder, so I can hardly see what's inside without downloading everything.

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Brutal.

>>142074733
THICK
H
.I
C
K

>>142074733
You know what else is brutal?
海豚
>sea pig
>=dolphin

>>142070738
All the recommendations are usually just popularity contests, so there's nothing but popular shit adapted to anime on top, index, oreimo, sao and other shit like that.
Just pick anything you can use rikai on from CoR.

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Is you're English good enough to read and fully comprehend "Social Choice and Individual Values"? If not, how do you intend to learn Japanese?

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>>142074665
>I ctrl+f it in all five mega directories.
>I ctrl+f in pic related and then complained how CoR doesn't have what I need

2/10 Got me to respond.

>>142073696
See the タイプ column in CoR? Anything that isn't a scan can be converted to html using calibre.

>>142075043
I don't even understand the English in DoJG m8. Fuck grammatical terms

>>142075047
That, and the four other ones. I found it anyways, but only thanks to the screenshot since I can't look inside those zips, you know.

The text collection in the CoR has some 8,000 files. If you're looking for something just download them and search through it.

>>142075043
I feel like I'll become a communist if I finish reading that page or some shit. Looks dangerous.

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>>142075296
Social Choice and Individual Value's main goal is to convey Arrow's impossibility theorem, which states that a group of people cannot possibly vote in a unified, logical manner. It's an essential read for anyone intended to seriously defend democracy.

how to clear brain fog?

i drank coffee and rubbed my face with sardines and i still cant think clearly, its really hurting my retention and i cant sleep until i finish these reps

>>142075292
Txt collection is also mostly regular literature, including a shit ton of western works translated into Japanese. There's not much actual anime girl books there.

>>142075380
Go play some game or go to sleep.
Forcing your reps will just ruin your willpower too.
Make sure you do them all tomorrow as soon as you can.

>>142075380
１．Fap
２．Achieve 賢者タイム

>>142075380
Don't do reps when you're tired

Sleep is how you get rid of brain fog

Well reading LN feels much easier than even nukige or easy VNs for some reason. I recommend people to try it if they haven't yet

>>142075530
Whatcha reading anonymous poster buddy

>>142075291
Are you for real? It's pretty obvious that you can't search zipped files. You have to download them, unpack and only then you can search. This shit is below 1 GB of size for fuck's sake.

>>142075380
>rubbed my face with sardines

i meant eat sardines

>>142075566
Kino no Tabi

If you want an example, this is the very beginning:

そして暗闇《くらやみ》が生まれた。
　まったく光のない。d
　月も星も見えない。
　緩やかな風で森がざわめく音だけが、闇を飾るように聞こえてくる。
「そうだなあ……。なんとなく、だけれどね……」
　ふいに人間の話す声が聞こえた。少年のような、そして少し高い声だ。
「なんとなく、だけれど？」
　別の声が発言を促すように聞いた。さらに若い感じのする、男の子のような声だった。
　ほんの少し静寂《せいじゃく》があって、最初に聞こえた声が静かに語り出した。まるで自分に言い聞かすような、誰《だれ》もいないところへ向かって喋《しゃべ》るような口調だった

Literally easier to comprehend than a nukige about some guy moving in to live with a bunch of girls..

>>142075639
>暗闇《くらやみ》
>静寂《せいじゃく》
>喋《しゃべ》る
Don't tell me you're reading it just like that without converting it to html with proper furigana

>>142075639
With that kind of furigana, you know it is for middle schoolers or lower

>>142075733
How do you do that? I do have that Firefox thing set up, something with that?

>>142075772
Jnovel formatter

>>142075482
The format is author then title, and katakana as first character of title ends in part 2/11 so there's not to much foreign stuff. All the weeb shit I wanted was there (admittedly pretty popular stuff).

I'm late with my some of my reps, like, 3000 reps late: what's the best way to catch up with those?

>>142075867
Have you tried doing them?

>>142075867
Hold the Enter key, pretend to be an Anki warrior

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>>142075798
Cool stuff, thanks anon

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おはようおにいちゃん

ふわふわ

>>142075883
Of course, that's what I'm doing.
But I don't know if that's really efficient: I have forgotten a lot (actually, most of those, it's a deck I completely abandoned quite some time ago, I'm still doing reps, but with another one), and I'm afraid that, by the time I catch up with everything, I will already have forgotten some of the first reps I did when I began to study this deck again.

>>142076051
ムラムラ〜

>>142076051
なんか早いね

>>142075809
Is newer stuff like ざるそば（かわいい） there? Guessing not

What's the best way to read Japanese .epub files on a PC?

>>142076459
calibre

comes with the bonus of being a library program that you can also use for your kindle

>>142076500
Calibre is shit, but unfortunately the best option on anime/os. SumatraPDF is the best option if you're on Windows.

>>142076500
Doesn't Calibre not have vertical text support though?

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>>142076500
I use calibre for my books already but all the Jap stuff has the characters sideways. Is there a way to fix that?

>>142073381

It'll suck at first but I strongly recommend just getting used to it.

>>142076697
tilt your head to the right

>>142076625
>furigana works fine in calibre but it has no vertical text support so all the shit displays sideways
>sumatraPDF displays the text fine but the furigana doesn't work

why the fuck

>>142075867
>3000 reps late

Welcome to club.

At the very least I can justify by saying that I can read 60-70% of what I want easily so Anki isn't vital anymore, but still, I really need to get back on it.

You are at that point as well Anon, right? ...Right?

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>一日見かけないから平穏だと思えば、望まぬ災難なのよ
>望まぬ災難
What the fuck am I looking at, senpaitachi

>>142076339
Obviously it's mostly older and more popular stuff. A lot of things people would want is there, but for newer or less popular you gotta use nyaa/PD/buy it from Japanese Amazon

>see 物語
>think "butsugo"

Send help, I have been cursed by endless jukugo and now I can't read simple words properly anymore.

>>142077077

望まぬ is an more poetic way of saying 望まない.

>>142077094
It's not on nyaa unfortunately. What's PD?

>>142076459
Convert it to txt, use JNovel Formatter and read it in browser with Rikaisama.

>>142077142
Perfect Dark. Also some books are pretty cheap to buy from what I heard, so you might try doing that.

>>142077120
Holy shit you're good

Is there a pattern to it like all -まない can be -まめ or is it unique to certain words?

Just learnt my second romaji. Feels good to be superior to EOPs.

>>142077175
>Convert it to txt
With what? Using Calibre fucks up the furigana formatting, which means it reads like shit when converted .txt and JNovel can't do anything about it.

So what torrent sites and such do the Japanese use for LNs etc?

>>142077256

Not him, IIRC ぬ is the same thing as ない, you can swap them and it means the same things, ぬ is just an archaic form.

Well, I say "archaic" only because everyone else does. It is far less archaic than something like "['twas]" in English and actually comes up all the time.

>>142077316
Convert to htmlz, rename file to zip, extract, read with firefox and rikai. Perfect furigana that doesn't fucks with rikai.

>>142077175
You only use jnovel formatter with aozora bunko formatted books, nothing else.

>>142076825
Try this for firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lucifox/?src=search
It's rotates everything so you read it left to right, and for some reason rikaisama only half works (highlights text, no definitions or export) but it has furigana.

>>142077379
Cool, thanks

I don't even get the grammar they are trying to teach here. This is my least favorite section of genki so far.

http://wp.stolaf.edu/japanese/ressource-projects/genki-i-ii-grammar-index/doko-kani-doko-nimo-genki-i-chapter-10/

>>142077638
Wow, I don't feel safe learning Japanese anymore. We need to ban this language.

>>142077638
>those colors
is it halloween already

>>142077460
>Convert to htmlz, rename file to zip, extract, read with firefox and rikai. Perfect furigana that doesn't fucks with rikai.
Huh, works perfectly. Thanks.

>>142070738
東京レイヴンズ
Just read it.

>>142077673
What don't you get, famalam. They're pointing out how question words + か or も interact with particles. So, どこも is "everywhere/nowhere" for example, but if you want to say "I went nowhere", you have to split it up and say どこにも行った, which you on the other hand don't do for どこか

>>142077699

No bully pls. Spooky jisho gives me +5 retention.

Just finished learning Katakana and Hiragana, what should I do now anons?

>>142076697
>Is there a way to fix that?
Not really unless you are a programmer. The developer has been made aware of the issue in the past but he doesn't care. Japanese doesn't seem to be on his priorities list.

聖水

>It is recommended that you have a Tae Kim level of grammar and a vocab base of the 2000 most common words before you start reading.
Is this consistent with your experience?

Did you start reading before or after completing Core2K?

My VNR doesn't catch the whole displayed line for a reason, notably missing out on the hiragana

What do

>>142077999
Get started on {Tae Kim, Genki, Japanese the Manga Way} while you download Anki and work on {Core6k, RtK}

>>142078132
The sooner you start the more vocab you need to look up. You can start whatever you want to read 200 words into 2k if you want to, just be prepared to look up a shitload.

2k is the recommended point because that's when the deck's structure has a slight shift, going over some basic words' slightly different readings/meanings.

>>142077999
1) READ THE GUIDE
2) Download Anki

>忘れられる
>れられる

>>142070168
i feel this image deeply

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>>142077256
Have a look at the A Dictionary of Intermediate Grammar, page 315 (ぬ). Alternatively, use the DoJG Anki deck, which has every main entry of each volume, with notes. Pic related is a stitched together example of said card. The deck will differ from person to person in terms of general style, colouration, etc. but the image is enough to get an idea of the general layout.

>>142078132
There's no need to perfect Tae Kim level grammar, but you should at least read through all of it once so you can recognize grammar points when you encounter them while reading. As for the vocab, you can begin earlier if you want to, but if you do I really recommend you pick up something that has furigana or a vocabulary list like Yotsuba.

>>142078132
Started reading yotsuba shortly after I learned kana and read like 10 chapters of tae kim.
It wasn't too hard, a decade of watching anime probably helped with figuring it out.

>>142072831
Only people with editor access can see the revision history, unfortunately.

>>142078132
My experience has been to take whatever resources look good and learn my own way. Started reading alongside study when I felt like it, no idea if it was 2000 words into vocab study or 200 words; it was on whim. From memory I read through the first section of two of Kim's grammar guide on his site and dropped it in favour of the book Japanese: The Manga Way and the website based programme: Visualizing Japanese Grammar. By the time I'd read and watched through the aforementioned two resources I had already read through the first two volumes of よつばと！.

The guide has generic advice for learners but you've got to understand that the thread is for autodidacts and such people tend to go their own way in terms of personal study.

>>142078613
>Visualizing Japanese Grammar
Just get a trip already!

>>142078651
Come again?

>>142078681
I'm sure you've posted about that website at least two times before. I think it was about the difference between が and は, perhaps.

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Ankifuraiday.

Post sum Fu's.

>>142078779
It's been mentioned hundreds of times over the course of the past year or so, is mentioned in the Guide and was even directly linked to in the CoR for a while when they were doing a public fund-raising campaign.

Lurk moar, post less.

>>142078864
>It's been mentioned hundreds of times over the course of the past year or so
Wow, really? Well, a year's a long time I guess.

>>142079271
>tumblr

>>142078132
This is awful advice, if the guide anon wrote this then he's an idiot and we should ignore his guide. You should be reading ASAP, basically as soon as you're capable of understanding what Yotsuba says.

>>142079271
I'll usually drink a shocktop while I'm studying.

>>142079401
If the choice is between working through Tae Kim or whatever and reading I definitely think the former is better, to make sure you're at least aware of much of the basic grammar, if not necessarily in command of it. When you're done with Tae Kim though I agree you should start reading regardless of how far you've made it into Core.

Just looking for some clarification:

>たばこ屋
I was under the impression that foreign words were generally written in katakana. Why is たばこ in hiragana?

>>142079401
In the longer run it's near meaningless whether or not you start reading a few weeks earlier or even six months earlier. Really, those new to language learning are probably not in the best position to throw around arbitrary ought statements. It could just as easily be stated that you should stop coming to these threads entirely after finding it and bookmarking the resource page.

>>142079696
Similar reason why to "kitchen" in English isn't written closer to the Hindi spelling. It really isn't considered foreign by this point in time.

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hmm how difficult is this sentence to you on a scale of 1-5

>Love delinquent manga
>Afraid I'll start sounding like one.

>>142079696
>I was under the impression that foreign words were generally written in katakana.
Generally. They can write it however the fuck they want.

>>142080203
Are you retarded? If not then you most likely won't have any problems.

>>142080199
1
Having the translation right there helps

>>142080199
2, with 1 being 私は元気です

>>142079696
It's actually written 煙草

>>142080646
Read the guide.

>>142079271
I'm drinking while reading some stuff in the DoJG. I generally try to avoid drinking while studying though for fear that it will negatively impact my ability to remember what I've read.

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>>142078132

>new card captor sakura anime
I bet the shitposter is excited

>>142082052
>shitty remake of a shitty show
Yay.

I'm currently working my way through a deck for Genki I while reading the textbook. I'm planning on switching to the Core 2k after completing Genki II. Is this a good idea, or should i just go right to the core deck?

>>142081984
What's mining? Didn't see anything in the guide about it, any advice on how to do it?

Does anyone still have a backup of the azw3 files in the CoR? It's full of dead links now.

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Are there really this many particles? I just CTRL+F'd through the imabi page for "particle" and it lists all these (I made it so that particles with multiple functions only appear once):

〜初級 I〜
が
は
を
か
も
て
の
に
へ
で
と
から　（からある、からの、からする）
まで

〜初級 II〜
でも
や
し
けれど
だけ
しか
ほか
なら
たら
ば

〜中級 I〜
ながら
しも
とか
など
なんて
より
ほど
くらい

〜中級 II〜
こそ
のみ
さえ
すら
だに
って
たって
だって

〜上級 I〜
つつ
どころ
やら
なり
きり
ども
だの

〜上級 II〜とて
とも
して
つ
しき

>>142082365
see word
add word
see word
add word

like that until your fingers bleed and you start crying because there are so many fucking words every time you continue and they never fucking end

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>>142081984
What could possibly go wrong when a complete beginner without any knowledge of basic vocab like core2k or kanji readings starts doing his own word mining?

>>142082443
Never mind. Found them.

>>142078132
I read about half of tae kim and never finished and started reading at about 500 words maybe. I don't think it's really a huge deal when you start. Just read until you get burnt out (which will happen quick in the beginning) and just keep trying over again and it gets better

>>142079271
If I drink my anki retention goes down to like 40%

>>142082844
Well, that only means that you don't really know those words by heart.

>>142082618
Are you projecting your own retarded mistakes on people or what?
Rikai gives the correct reading first and that's what most people use for mining.
How kanji readings work is one of the first things tae kim explains.

>>142082950
Because most of them are new and young cards..

>>142082963
>the correct reading (singular)
Hello, complete beginner.

>>142082468
Depends what you call a particle. That's definitely way more than what you need to learn about before reading. Lots of those are easy enough to get from rikai-chan and a single example sentence.

>>142082618
Absolutely nothing. Your example is dumb. You're even more likely to make dumb misunderstandings with words you learn out of context, and reading a lot means you will fix whatever mistakes you do make much more quickly. VNs in particular with their voices lines mean you aren't gonna be misreading common words.

>>142083171
core has example sentences for context. Way to talk out of your ass when you haven't even seen a core deck in your life.

>>142083307
Yeah because 2000 artificial example sentences is totally comparable to seeing the word 50 times a day in different contexts you fucking dumbass.

>>142083347
So core2k is artificial, but I'm sure the random moege trash that you can read with 0 vocab has much more natural sounding language, like いやぁぁぁぁそこ見っちゃだめ and 先輩、いくうううう

>>142083101
>That's definitely way more than what you need to learn about before reading.
Which ones would you say are the necessary ones?

>>142083949
all of them if you wanna learn japanese bōyo

>>142084307
I mean the necessary ones to learn before you start reading. The ones that you will almost immediately have to look up if you don't already know them, as opposed to the more obscure ones which you might not run into unless you're reading something a bit more difficult.

>>142084369
Well you can find this out by reading something

>>142084369
i dunno i'd say learn の、と、へ、に、が、and も first

Does learning Japanese make me superior to other /a/nons?

>>142084509
Yes

>>142083949
The ones in Tae Kim.

>>142084509
いな
なぜなら、俺がいるからだ

>>142084509
It makes you superior to anyone who doesn't.

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>>142084509
Only if you also collect smug anime reaction faces to use against people who are worse at Japanese than you.

>>142084944
but there is nobody worse at japanese than me

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>>142084944

>>142085048
Just memorize this:
"konn ichi wa, boku wa nihon"
Now you can pretend that you're a Japanese native.

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>>142084742
The metric I decided on while waiting for people to answer was "are they in the DOJG basic volume?"

And so, by the powers of autism (the numbers are page numbers in case that wasn't obvious):

〜初級 I〜
が　ー　118, 121
は　ー　516, 521, 525
を　ー　347, 349, 351, 352
か　ー　164, 166, 169
も　ー　247, 250, 255
て　ー　464
の　ー　312, 315, 318, 322, 325, 328, 331, 335, 337
に　ー　289, 291, 293, 295, 297, 299, 302, 309, 310
へ　ー　116
で　ー　105, 106, 107, 109
と　ー　474, 476, 478, 481
から　ー　176, 177, 179
まで　ー　226, 228

〜初級 II〜
でも 　ー　112
や　ー　536
し　ー　395
けれど　ー　187
だけ　ー　93, 97
しか　ー　399
ほか　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
なら　ー　281
たら　ー　452, 457
ば　ー　81

〜中級 I〜
ながら　ー　269
しも　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
とか 　ー　488
など 　ー　267
なんて　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
より　ー　564, 567
ほど　ー　136
くらい　ー　212

〜中級 II〜
こそ　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
のみ　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
さえ　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
すら　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
だに　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
って　ー　507, 510
たって　ー　462
だって　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]

〜上級 I〜
つつ　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
どころ　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
やら　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
なり 　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
きり 　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
ども　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
だの　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]

〜上級 II〜
とて　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
とも　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
して　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
つ　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]
しき　ー　[not in dojg basic volume]

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>>142085068

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>>142084509
Yes, especially once you realize how terrible western anime communties are, and only check back every once in a while to laugh at them.

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>>142084944
>Only if you also collect smug anime reaction faces to use against people who are worse at Japanese than you

つい凄く汚臭な屁をやった

>>142085124

You will be very annoyed if you don't learn なんて.

一生懸命頑張ったのに、結局無理だよ

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>>142085159

There a site for picking out characters you already know and it gives you a bunch of words to help with memorization? I want more than realkana.

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>>142085408

>>142085361

Same fag. To add to this the basic/intermediate/advanced break down works for the most part but, while I can't think of specific examples off the top of my head, there are things in the advanced edition that you flat out need to know immediately and are not all that advanced.

>>142085361
That's one I still don't really grasp, mind explaining?

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>>142085361
Here you go, now you know なんて

>>142085445
まだ若いうちに日本語を覚えたいと思った・・・今、あまり若くないんだ

>>142085763
できっこない
できるわけがない
できるはずがない

>>142071249
>>142071618
x目尻らいん
目尻らへん
I guess.

>>142085763
I'd deffo dekiru her hard.

>>142086134
I'd dekiru her hand.

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what am i, irish

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>>142084944
>>142085308

>>142086267

>the ghost dekinai-chan mirai visits you in the night
>have hours of hot passionate sex
>>you try to go study but she beckons you back
>decide fuck it and keep fucking her
>fuck at full force in her vagina, mouth and ass as revenge for all the anons she has claimed over the years
>months pass as you spend your life in sexual heaven
>feel satisfied that you have done the lords work by punishing her and preventing her from doing her wicked work
>realize that you haven't studied a word of Japanese in months
>realize that the allure of dekimanko was a trap all along
>できない

>>142085124
〜Tae Kim extras (basic dojg only)〜
たり　ー　458
ている　ー　155
てある　ー　76
ておく　ー　357
ていく　ー　152
てくる　ー　221
ようになる　ー　559
ようにする　ー　562
いけない　ー　528
ならない　ー　274
ても　ー　468
たい　ー　442
欲しい　ー　144, 146
たらどう　ー　457
という　ー　486
みる　ー　246
させる　ー　387
られる　ー　364, 370
しまう　ー　403
こと　ー　191, 194, 196, 198, 200, 202, 204, 206
ところ　ー　495, 496
もの　ー　257
かもしれない　ー　173
だろう　ー　100
ばかり　ー　84
すぎる　ー　424
さ　ー　381
よう　ー　547, 553, 554, 557, 559, 562
そう　ー　408, 410
らしい　ー　373
ほう　ー　138, 140
やすい　ー　541
にくい　ー　307
ないで　ー　271
わけ　ー　531
まま 　ー　236
はず　ー　133
がる　ー　123
まい 　ー　233

>>142085361
>>142085461
Thanks for the heads up. I'm obviously going to look things up when I don't understand them, but I'm just trying to get the raw essentials down so I can get to reading ASAP.

This isn't my first time trying to learn Japanese, so to save myself from reading through the entirety of Tae Kim again, I'm just trying to refresh my memory on the basic need-to-know stuff (this time using the DOJG as my source since I remember it having much better explanations than pretty much anything else).

>>142086850
>years later
>she proposes and you accept
>wedding day comes
>happiness awaits you for the rest of your life
>you're standing in front of the chapel
>"anon, there is only one thing left. I will only marry you if you tell me that you love me in japanese"
>you forgot everything over the years
>す…す…すいかです
>she breaks up with you on the spot

>>142086753
Oh god, I really hope anons don't have to use this boring flash cards.

ハムを捨ててください

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>>142085445

>>142084509
Actually learning it does.
Starting to learn it, but failing to follow through, on the other hand, makes you as bad as the smelliest weebs.

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フライアボルハートというビジュアルノベルを今日プレイしてみたけど、知らない漢字が多い。
６ヶ月で日本語を勉強しているのに、俺はまだダメだ。出来なくて、死にたくて、殺してくれ。

>>142087296
no such thing as superiority on an anonymous image board uguuuu

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this sounds far too texan when pronounced
todays 議論: Git er done

>>142087366
へー

>>142087366
いいえせんぱい

>>142087366
is it like an expected thing to watch namasensei's vids if you frequent these threads or what

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>>142087366
>tfw actually read and understood that
fucking finally. looks like i can learn japanese after all

ボクはゲイらしいなあ

>>142087576
オメデトウ～

>>142087576

oh, meddy toe

>>142087366
構わないでください！
VNはそれぞれ自分の特定な言葉集中と漢字集中がある。
ファライアボルハートの漢字が知らなかったところであなたは日本語を全然分らないということじゃない。

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>The Manga Recommendation List. Match your WaniKani level with the perfect manga
Can someone with a WaniKani account post what this looks like? It's probably shit but you never know

Today I learned about the げ suffix while reading some random word descriptions online, which I had never noticed before. What else did anyone learn over the past 24 hours or so entirely unexpectedly or not part of any set study?

>>142087774
>Basically how do kenji tie into each other?
That's kind of a personal question, isn't it?

>I've tried looking at guidebooks but I get stuck between the kenji
Wouldn't it just be easier to ask Kenji in person? This guy sounds like an autistic stalker or something.

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>>142087496

>>142087576
>tfw no squash waifu

How the fuck do I say uncomfortable in Japanese? As in "these pants are uncomfortable"

>>142087759
ありがとう、せんぱい
俺は日本語にがんばって、辞めないよ。
しかし、隔靴掻痒だった

>>142088080
Nothing.
I think I'm gonna watch some animays now though so if I'm lucky there will be a word I don't know somewhere.

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>>142070074
Why is Jisho the recommended online Eng/Jap dictionary?

>>142088621
Because it has radical lookup and every E/J dictionary is literally the same
Except for the one used by rikai-kun, which is slightly worse than the others

>>142071924
I prefer this to knowing how to pronounce a word I've never seen before, but having no idea what it means.

Though it's still satisfying when I see a new kanji compound and guess its pronunciation correctly.

>>142087366
FODAC MLK FD NINGUEM C IMPORTA SEU MERDA VAI TOMÁ NO TEU CU CARIOCA VIADO FILHO DE UMA ÉGUA COM CORRIMENTO NA URETRA DE TÃO PUTA QUE É SE MATA LOGO FILHO DE UM DEMONIO

>>142088708
this desu, its all Jim Breen's WWWJDICT project and utilises the JMDICT, KANJIDICT2 and RADKFILE/KRADFILE extracts

but jisho adds more on top of that

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>>142088786

>>142088708
there are some offline epwing ones with occasionally better descriptions and actual hand picked examples for words, like 研究者

jisho probably has the best lookup for words but its example sentences are useless

I don't think I've used radical lookup a single time in my life since you can just draw any kanji you see into google and it'll spit it back out for you

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>>142088829

>>142088895
研究社*

>>142089086
黙れこのけんきゅうもの

>>142087366
>６ヶ月
Dude, I was still trying to read kana smoothly at that time. I knew some kanji sure, but no matter how much you practice it's going to take time. Six months is nothing for an entire fuck language. You can do it.

>>142089163
still struggling with kana after 6 months seems like a pretty extreme example

at 6 months in I probably had somewhere around 1800-1900 mature kanji cards in anki and there's no way I would make a mistake reading kana

I'm 7 months in now and I've finished a couple manga volumes and started reading an LN in that time. Although I can only read maybe six or seven pages an hour with a dictionary, probably twenty times slower than something in English at the same level of difficulty

>>142089682
I wouldn't say struggling to read kana, just still learning to read it smoothly and quickly. My point is that even after you "learn" Japanese it takes a long time to get good at it.

>>142070074
>お金を入れてボタンを押すだけでパンツが出てくる自動販売機がある。
日本万歳　(*´∀｀)

>>142089790
more like the point when you've "learned" it doesn't really exist

>>142088708
Anon, I'd suggest taking a closer look at that image then looking up the word in your browser.

>>142089827
それくらいどうでもいい
本当に凄いのは、パンツは全て使用済みで、履いた女子高生の写真を見て選ぶこともできる

という自販機があったと思うけど、まだあるかどうかは知らない

>>142090020
I've only ever heard of used pantsu vending machines as a meme online. Then again, highschool is too old so even if it were real, meh.

>>142090164
youre just not old enough dude

are their other online games like these?
http://www.gamesofdesire.com/hentai/upskirt-negotiations-let-s-draw-a-picture/

I'm kinda lazy to download a VN, I'm satisfied with online shit.

>>142090569
32 isn't old enough?

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芸術家な日本人妻がまだ欲しいです。。。

>>142090976
You'll understand when you grow up kid.

>>142091022
Stopping growing up a long time ago, anon, it's all downhill from here.

>>142091001
>。。。
if you want to impersonate a japanese person, you need to work on many things, and first, your punctuation.

>>142091094
While anon works on that I suggest you work on containing your autism.

>>142090020
ちょっと待って。ネットはサクラだらけなのに、こんなの信じるのか？何処の惑星生まれですか？

>>142091149
While anon works on that I suggest you work on my ちんぽ.

>>142091172
Sorry, I'm not a pederast.

>>142080811

I prefer 莨. Good grass, man...

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>>142087366
諦めないで！
最初はいつも辛いけど、アノンくんなら出来る！
結衣ちゃんは世界で一番かわいい女の子だよ
彼女のために頑張って！

>>142091158
ネットじゃなくて直接日本人から聞いたものだが・・・
それにいかにも日本人がやりそうなことだし

>>142083347
Because you have 50 different example sentences on your minding cards, don't you fuckwit?
>hurr durr reviewing vocab in core means I am not allowed to read any other Japanese.
I hope you get hit by a truck, you cancerously little faggot.

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Anon, you ARE gonna learn japanese in time for Sen no Hatou aren't you? Don't tell me you're gonna give up now.

>>142091492
>hurr durr reviewing vocab in core means I am not allowed to read any other Japanese.

Were you dropped as a baby dude the conversation began about whether you need to finish Core2k before you start to read. If you do that, clearly you aren't allowing yourself to read much other Japanese now are you smart guy.

>>142088358

履き心地良くない。

Structure: (verb that causes the sensation, eg: 履く、座る、居る、寝る, in its 連用形: 履き、座り、居、寝) + 心地 + (良い・良くない・悪い・悪くない)

例: This pencil is uncomfortable (to write with).

この鉛筆は書き心地悪い。

How long does it take to make it through intermediate hell?

Do you guys still do new core words after you've started reading/mining new words ?

or just the reps ?

>>142091688
as long as it takes you to actually push yourself to try to read and understand harder material

or until you move to tokyo ofc

>>142090164

Never saw the panty vending machines, but once, when I was travelling by ferry from Osaka to Hokkaido, our ship stopped briefly around Sendai. I and several other passengers walked through an open field to a nearby grocery store to buy snacks, and there in the middle of this wide-open field with nothing else about, was this tiny, wooden shack. The shack was full of porno vending machines.


I will always remember fondly:

The Porno Shack in the Meadow.

原の春画小屋、無名著

>>142091823
half of core is garbo and useless just start mining from the beginning if you want to utilize anki

>>142091823
Just do the reviews. Mined words are much higher quality than core words.

>>142076697
Buy a kindle f.a.m.

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最近僕はソダを飲むようになった。けど、今カワイイ少女のほうが好きです。

>>142091937
is it possible to change kindle locale so I can read books bought off amazon.co.jp?

god knows I'm not buying anything in English in an ebook format

>>142076697
>death god's udon cafe

wtfff

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https://youtu.be/AqfISgCQV-U?t=111

Is he right?

how come nobody talks about steve anymore?

>>142092222
he's more credible than anyone on DJT, at least

>>142092222
People learn in different ways if it weren't for anki I would be nowhere in this language

>>142076697
Why are you using Calibre on Windows? The only reason you'd subject yourself to that bloated KDE garbage is if you were on Linux. Use SumatraPDF.

>>142084509
Once you learn Japanese, you'll realize how pathetic EOPs really are.

>>142093758
Well, until you realise that you still haven't achieved anything meaningful in life, at least.

Yo, yo, yo... Whachu niggaz think of my haikoo, bizatches?

嗚呼

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is stuff like this still beginner shit or am i moving onto harder things

>>142094125
Are you Tkyosam?

>>142091482
>それにいかにも日本人がやりそうなこと
成るほど。反日プロパガンダと来たか。１５年間も日本に住んできたけど、騙されないよ。
网络评论员或五毛党からいくら貰ってるの？

>>142092025
Yes

>>142094441

That would largely depend upon how much effort is required of you to read and understand the text.

>>142094441
Are you gay? Gay people can't learn japanese sorry

>>142094460

Since I have no idea who that is, I would say: "No".

Who is that?

>>142094528

Ah, just looked him up. Why would you think me him?

>>142094523

What if you're straight, but greatly enjoy getting violently fisted in the anus by women dressed in flying squirrel costumes?

How 'bout then?

>>142094500
it wasn't too difficult to piece together but yeah i understand. i guess it doesn't really matter though, i'll just keep going

>>142094523
damn

>>142094606
No but reading gayish eroge is out of the question

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did the best ive done a long time today on anki, for some reason new kanji aren't showing up as much as jukugo are letting me focus on the meaning
feels good goat

>>142094125
>

>>142095036
could be chinese

>>142095036
your rikai can't save you now

>>142091834
>porno shack in the meado
Reminds me of the bit in In Praise of Shadows about the merits of taking a shit in a dimly lit traditional Japanese outhouse.

>>142071483
To speak words steady studying is needed?

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>>142095036
>

>>142095036

Very old word for vulva, long since supplanted by 膣. I wanted to give it a more graceful, less clinical feel. Pronounced つび.

>>142095097

Actually, it's a 国字.

>>142095217

Reference, please?

>>142091937
Man that thing has SHIT memory and the more filled it is the slower it runs. Now it usually takes 3 minutes for the keyboard to even appear

>>142095525
Mine gets slow every couple weeks. I just restart it and it is fine.

>>142095373
法律上は？

>>142095394
Japanese: http://www.kuniomi.gr.jp/togen/iwai/raisan.htm
English translation: http://dcrit.sva.edu/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/In-Praise-of-Shadows-Junichiro-Tanizaki.pdf

Look up 厠 or toilet depending on the language to get to the relevant bit.

It captures some of the charms of dimly-lit traditional Japanese architecture, and the process of it being altered or displaced by modern and Western features. As someone who enjoys dimly lit spaces more than the brightly lit spaces that are more common these days, I really enjoyed reading this.

>>142095525
that doesn't sound like it has much to do with storage space, how many books would you even need to cram into it to get even close to filling that up?

a single book is usually less than 3 MB, and a kindle has around 4 GB storage

>>142095351
how did you manage to uncover this long lost ancient symbol

>>142095701
Oh wait, I was having a Kindle Fire, not just a regular Kindle. I'm using books that are collections of pictures and pdfs of scanned shit in addition to the lighter formats, so the thing does fill up really quickly (and I had around 13GB of storage). I don't have a convincing explanation for the performance-storage space relationship, it's just something I noticed over time. It could just be a result of long usage too. And restarting only helps temporarily.

>>142095701
Sounds like the kindle is doing something with the stored files (caching? data mining for ads? maintaining a database?), which gets more and more intensive as the device fills up with files.
It's piss-poor design which would be hardly adequate even coming out of a no-name Chinese reader, really a shamefur dispray for Amazon.

>>142095835
oh well a kindle fire pretty much misses the point of having a kindle in the first place

obviously kindle refers to one of the e-ink models

>>142095843
Are you sure it does anything like that? I doubt it, I've had one for four years and it's been running at the same crawling speed the whole time, since it's not really meant to be a powerful device in the first place.

>>142095834
Not this guy, but I found a pretty good reference here, right down to the dictionary page where the character appears:
http://isobe2624.seesaa.net/category/24859494-1.html
>広辞苑はどのページも４段になっているのだが、1,881 ページ目の２段目にはずいぶん興味深い項が載っていた。『つび』という読み方の漢字は３つ並んでおり、その最初に載っているのが、尸(ｼｶﾊﾞﾈ ｶﾝﾑﾘ)の下に朱という文字を書く｢

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I could almost read this whole thing without rikai, felt pretty good.

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>hey kids, wanna buy some grammar

do you guys actually memorize all the conjugation rules and shit when you read tae kim?

>>142097024
Not instantly, no
but when i read nip i want to know what they're talking about

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夨

what the fuck is this kanji, it doesn't even have meaning but it has multiple readings. Is it used in a name or something?

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T-thanks for the motivation, Tae Kim

>>142097183

From my 漢字源:

1) 頭を傾けるさま。片方に寄せるさま。(同) 選挙仄、側。
2) 姓の一つ。

Does that help?

>>142095667

You sound like me. Thank you for the reference; I'll check it out.

>>142097493

I have no idea how that 選手 got in there. Ignore that, please.