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And The Day After as well! Choose one /a/!
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>>142018199
ASS WITH HIMECUT
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>>142018199
I choose Tito

>tfw no Yugoslavia Front VN
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>>142018199
posting best girls.
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>>142018925
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>>142018440

Great combination
>>142018660
Suffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEAXIoBPhBQ
Suferring
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>>142018925
Posting
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>>142018925
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>>142018660
>Ustasha
>Chetnik
>Handschar
>Powers Combined WE FUCK UP EVERYTHING AND BLAME EACH OTHER YUO STINK BACKSTABBING HRVATSKI INVADER SRBJI AND FILTHY TURSKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_4181091283&feature=iv&src_vid=cUbCp2WgkYw&v=PZruLp_2VA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9-mYg5VDzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWDXYOIoFzc
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>>142019935
in the middle of war vs BETA slovenia decides it wants to be independent and then civil war begins.
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>>142019935
Bekrija use magic tekbir to guide shell into weak BETA position. BETA run from trench, artillery is faster. 2fast4BETA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFnYHja6R0U

>[synthesizer intensifies]

Every time
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>>142020040
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come to think of it, i think author digged up yugoslavian wars when developing the story since it has shitton of clusterfucks4737
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>>142020303
BETA cant handles of Bosnian flute magik
they instantly go boom
Bosnia saved of the humanities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxTep41VX9U
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>>142020600
Bosanska stronk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es64c1o6XvA
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>>142021050
>>142018199
Does Muv-Luv series has some any kinda post-war OSTs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isghi5qK4U0
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>>142021269
You can use Pink Floyd's The Final Cut for that
https://youtu.be/EF5RCSPRJbc

They disembarked in 45
And no-one spoke and no-one smiled
There were to many spaces in the line

And it works perfectly with SM

Somewhere old heroes shuffle safely down the street
Where you can speak out loud
About your doubts and fears
And what's more no-one ever disappears
You never hear their standard issue kicking in your door.
You can relax on both sides of the tracks
And maniacs don't blow holes in bandsmen by remote control
And everyone has recourse to the law
And no-one kills the children anymore.
And no one kills the children anymore
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>>142021628
how about Lament of Yemen?
song is really sad one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU3AXyZQzQ8


There is no cloud in the air-
What is that smoke?
There is no death in the neighborhood
What is that cry?
That Yemen lands is so rugged

Over there is Yemen
Its rose is fenugreek
Those who go never return
Why?
Here is Moush
And the road is lumpy
Those who go never return
What's going on?

The voices of reserves in front of the barracks
Open his bag and see what he has
A pair of shoes and a fez

Over there is Yemen...
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Is it just me or is anime Lise more sexy than the the VN version?
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>>142018925
>>142019117
Here, let me fix your images.
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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mG3BvkT6YQ
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>>142022409
Remove cockroach
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>>142022507
No!
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>>142022361
They de-moed her a bit and that made her sexier I suppose, but both the VN and Anime designs are inferior to the LN one in my opinion.

The anime has too much "edge" and the VN too much cuteness.
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>>142022471
is that time again?
who /saddam/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4GvlU3xQKM
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>>142022562
>she responded
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>>142022628
Go back to being dead, shitty twin.
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>>142022600
>too much cuteness.

Literally heresy.
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>>142022600
I noticed that most of the VN characters seem cuter. Like Beatrix is way more soft looking in the VN then the LN.
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>>142022600
Lise was the only girl who made the jump to the anime well. The rest of the designs are inferior.
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>>142018199
I choose the inept shogun
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>>142022677
But compared to the butchery of the anime thats barely a problem.

>>142022815
I didn't say her redesign was bad, only that I liked the old one better.
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Last time I post kinky Circe.

Different Schwarzesmarken girl soon.
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>>142019117
>>142022409
Worst girls!!!!!
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>>142022949
Mimizuka at least tries to keep Carnelian's style, even if he does have a tendency to moe the girls up unlike Shuuichi with the anime.
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>>142023065
wew I didn't think Circe's circes were that big.
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>>142023065
>Different Schwarzesmarken girl soon.

Nice!
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>>142023224
They've had her in the basement for a couple of months and gave her some medicine.
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>>142023224
I too felt that the artist made her a bit bustier than normal, especially since that artist is quite good at drawing voluptuous women. I was more concerned that the hair was a bit too...black.

Also, I told them to use pic related as the reference, so perhaps they took it from there to up her bust?
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>>142022602
Saddam was the hero we needed
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>>142023065
I want to tease her until she starts crying. Afterwards, I want to gently and lovingly cuddle her, telling her I'm sorry for taking it a bit too far.
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>>142018199

I choose Haruka.
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>>142022600
>>142022677
>>142022361
Younger and cuter in the VN to older/more mature voice in the anime with an in-between for the LN. And a chest size that grows with every adaptation.
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>>142022361
Do the BDs have any extras other than the OST?
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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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https://twitter.com/KimiNozoGuy/status/735879639302852609

Now that's explain a lot of things
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>>142024095
2 booklets
One filled with genga
And the other a "Field Log" which has information on 2 characters and on a TSF followed by an interview
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>>142024188
Thanks.
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Even if she is a secondary Gretel will always the main heroine of my heart

also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNTx6ZogBbY
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>>142024175
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>>142024188
They better explain what their intention with Beatrix was, so that we can settle the endless "debate" at least on the anime.

>>142024175
Bloody Hell.
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>>142024391
>They better explain what their intention with Beatrix was, so that we can settle the endless "debate" at least on the anime.

Last I checked, the animator described her as a hateful beauty and "final villain". So I guess the anime version was supposed to be hot, make the audience hate her, and serve as the final evil that the hero must overcome.
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>>142024347
>>142024391
?
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>>142025485
You've never read one of his ML doujins?
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>>142022361
So no bonus scene?
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>>142024771
They made a good job a pissing off a large part of the Fanbase, and delivering bigger plotholes than the ones in the source material and adding more stupidity to the story, thats for sure.

>>142025658
I'm sure we'll get that implied sex scene.
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>>142024175
>Jilpoong = Leymei
Literally what the fuck
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>>142026497
so they're both dead?

F
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>>142024175
What the fuck
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>>142025548
nope, im just one of innocent soul
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>>142026619
I'm still not seeing the resemblance in art style.

It's currently at "Kinda" since I've been told they are the same guy.

This might be denial, though.
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>>142024175
that is false
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>>142026485
Most of the fanbase is probably more pissed off over Lise than Beatrix.
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>>142023065

Are you the same guy who did cowgirl Lise?
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>>142027028
True, but do you think that "good" Lise would still follow a "None eviler" Beatrix?
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>>142027159
If she was broken enough, sure, but it still weakens her motivation and character. Beatrix being a complete cunt also makes the stasi overthrowing Schmidt and rallying behind her nonsensical, but then, the stasi aren't really fleshed out. Doesn't change that Beatrix, no matter the source, is right up there at the top for one of the most evil characters age has ever made.
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>>142027470
I would still place Axmann at the top for being the greatest douchebag.
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>>142027584
Comparing Beatrix and Axmann is like comparing Hitler against Stalin.
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>>142027470
1.yuuko
2.axmann
3.beatrix

the trifecta of pure evil each worse than hitler
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>>142027470
>Doesn't change that Beatrix, no matter the source, is right up there at the top for one of the most evil characters age has ever made.

Thats not particularly hard. Though many would disagree, including me, but by this point its a fools errand to try to change each other opinions. Neither side is going to budge by this point.
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>>142027665
More like the trifecta of godwin's law.
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>>142027653

Axmann is more like Yuri Andropov. Yes, I know Schmidt is named after him in the anime, but Adropov is much more like Axmann. He esxsentially instigated the Hungarian Revolution in 1956 as a power play, convincing the Rebels that he was sympathetic to them and telling the provisional government nothing unusual was happening, while he was sending in the Tanks.
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>>142028023
Hiroki based Axmann off of Reinhard Heydrich though.
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Why was beatrix so evil? executing people with a smile on her face, forcing lise to be a spy in 666th, enoying toutouring people and keking when her men die and so on.She is pretty much the worse person i ever saw. Was she born evil? i belive so. She faked her love for Jürgen and ensnared him with her fake sob story of her father and drove two good siblings apart. Why is she so shit and how can you waifu her? Gretel is much superior.
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>>142028233
>I'm trying to bait real hard, the post.
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>>142028233
>he drank the rebel koolaid
Whoops, I meant "moderate".
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>>142028119

I'm aware of that. But ehrn I was reading about Adropov wining and dining a hungarian politicvian, and then the car giving him a ride him ended up in a secret prison and not his house, yeah I see the Axmann parallels. Heydrich actually has a few parallels with Beatrix. One of the reasons he was assassinated by the Czech government in exile is that he was actually quite popular in Bohemia and Moravia, and his industrial policies (give factory workers lots of money, mainly) had won over large segments of the population.

They had to kill him because under the terms of the Munich agreement, even if the Nazis lost, Bohemia and Moravia might have remained part of Germany after the war, and by killing him they could instigate a reaction from the Nazis that would alienate the Czech population.

And then none of it mattered because they were sold as Chattel to the Soviets anyway.
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>>142028446
Hmmm, you are right, there are quite a lot of parallels there.
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>>142028601

Also Heydrich was a pilot until he got shot down during the invasion of Russia and was told to knock off all that nonsense.
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>>142028862
0 kill
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>>142028862
>head of the Gestapo who really upped their brutality
>drafted up the concentration camp scheme
>didn't really care about nazism, just in it for himself
>called the "blonde beast" by other nazis

Seems more like Axmann than Beatrix, really. I'm not really sure what historical figure Beatrix would slot into, if any at all.
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>>142029261
Yeah, he also forced his soldiers to get creative in executing Jews to save supplies (why use bullets when you can use bayonets).
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>>142029261
Elisabeth Bathory?
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>>142029210

I never said he was a good pilot. If anything he was mostly an egotistical loser who was larping a supervillain. His assassination was an absurd, unnecessary clusterfuck that he could have easily survived if he wasn't standing in the middle of the road taking pot shots at the men trying to kill him.
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>>142029261
Find a woman in power whose heartbreak results in suffering for those below her? Maybe? Nah, Beatrix remains a dumber Yuuko, with a dead boyfriend and immersed in a environment that is positively toxic to any form of morality.
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>>142029500

Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner?
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>>142029539
>implying that corrupt whore's motivation is her dead husband
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>>142029621

Not really I just wanted to post a picture of a painted monkey.

The Archtypical heartbroken beauty was Victoria, but people hardly suffered under her, at least because of her own actions.
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>>142029723
Its actually quite hard to find parallels, since all those heartbroken queens and empresses had at least half a dozen children and entire countries to care about and rarely lost their sense of right and wrong, while Beatrix has nothing but a Idea. And she might even be wrong about that.

Though Joanna the Mad could in the loosest sense work out.
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>>142029919
Then expand it to male rulers, leaders, and so forth.
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>>142029500
>>142029539
>>142029621
>>142029723
I'd honestly prefer a Beatrix main bad guy based more around Catherine the Great

Only for the fact that Beatrix being a MILF whore in her later years would be amazing and provide plenty of excuses and material for plenty of hentai doujins.
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>>142029500
>>142029539
>>142029723
>>142029919
>>142029261

She's Hitler. Think about it, she's charismatic, rutheless, crazy, willing to murder millions, a fanatic for her ideals, but is still selfless in a twisted way. She even gives similar style speeches and rallies.
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>>142030057
She and Lise are built for hentai, which is why the Japs will all go for Iris or Katia instead.
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>>142030057

The only problem with a Catharine the Great Beato is that when Theo kills her with penetration, it will be the subject of a My Little Pony clopfic.
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>>142030215
But Japs don't like Katia.
They like Beatrix, Iris and Lise.
In that order.
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>>142028601
Is Beatrix a himedere?
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>>142030164
>She even gives similar style speeches and rallies.

Say it with me:

ANIME ONLY
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>>142030333
What's himedere?
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>>142030275
Iris is queen over in Japan.
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>>142030333
Stop inventing random *dere's. It's retarded.
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>>142030421
The term has been around for a while now, like Kuudere.
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>>142022665
O look its the ever classicchildhood friend. You are a cancer of a trope.
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>>142024175
Nothing against KNG but this doesn't prove anything.
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>>142030401
That's because Japan is a bunch of seibahfags with shit taste.
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>>142030482
>>142030421
>>142030333

She was a kuudere when Jurgen was still around, but her personality is 100% structured around being a bereaved widow now.
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>>142031240
Isn't she tsun to Jurgen though.
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>>142031797
Her Tsun melts away after the first date apparently.
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>>142027035
No. I merely commission bondage pictures from various artists.
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>>142031943
Thx anon.
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>>142031943
Who is next?
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>>142031943
That's one fine Circe you commissioned, can't wait for your next contribution to these threads.
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>>142021269
Signs (the first ED from Total Eclipse) does a wonderful job. Sadly no one uploaded the lyrics for the vid, but you can see them in TE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6zsFB_HFU8

Very emotional imo.

>>142023065
Oh wow, we really have a drawfag or two! I love you!

Balck loves you too

Pham-nee next? Anette?

>>142022815
Well a lot of that is characterization's fault too. Because of the way they are portrayed, you don't see the facial contortions from certain emotions that you'd see with a character.

>>142022677
They are in a way, but cute is subjective anyways. I always had an instaboner for girls with that hard edge look like Bea.
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>>142031240
I could see her getting with Theo in her route, if Lise is somehow dead or so by the time he crosses to the Werewolf.

It'd be kind of odd though for both of them. She'll always be thinking of Jurgen, and he'd always be thinking of Lise, or Katia lessly, or even some of the other girls like Pham. So it'd still be tragic.
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>>142033184
>Start Lise route
>Join Werewolves
>Divergence where Lise dies
>"Sorry about your imouto, y'know I lost someone too. I'm just saying maybe bleach your hair, I buy some ribbons, and we work something out, see where this goes maybe?"
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>>142033435
Despite how fucked up that scenario is I still laughed.
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What is the most effective way to squeeze information out of a battle-hardened East German pilot?

Very rough sketch.

>>142032965
I am not the drawfag. I am merely someone who commissioned an artist to draw some Schwarzesmarken girls in bondage. Someone lamented the lack of good SM porn, so I thought to change that.

The artist has drawn some requests from another thread. His DA is here: http://phanaxial.deviantart.com/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DdJifdnVs

Onward!
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>>142033672
Sylwia?
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>>142033672
>he most effective way to squeeze information out of a battle-hardened East German pilot

With tight loving hugs clearly.

>>142033753
The eyes look like Sylwia's
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>>142033753
Indeed. It's just an ultra-rough sketch at the moment.
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>>142033184

I can't see a Beatrix-Theo relationship working if Lise is in the picture, unless it's a menage a trois. If something horrible happened to Lise and she was suddenly gone, I could see it working though, because Beatrix would know that Theo really wants Lise, and Theo knows Beatrix really wants Jurgen, and they both know it's impossible, but they find comfort and reassurance in each other because they understand and appreciate how the other one feels. Eventually, they find a love for one another that is compartmentalized away from their other, lost loves, and explored somewhat separately.

If Lise is in the picture, a Beatrix-Theo relationship is a lot more difficult, because they both like her too much to hurt her like that, and Lise is Theo's Tru Luv in any case.
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Is this an entire scene or are we being trolled?
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>>142033672
Either:
a) Extensive torture, which takes hours and they might not break if they're dedicated enough.
b) Trick them.
b) Go for the emotional angle, which depends on the individual. Annett broke hearing friends being audibly tortured. What got to Lise all those years ago was being told that onii-chan would see pictures of being raped.
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>>142033930
I fee like its just gonna be that flash when Iris and Gretel ask about Theo getting in a relationship with her the episode after, but I sure hope its more.
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>>142034029
>Flash of Lise happy tear face when he finaly gives her the D she always wanted.
>Lise loves me she will never betray me. I'm gonna use her.
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>>142033883
I think you guys are kind of whitewashing Beatrix. Except for Jurgen, she isn't really capable of love, kindness, or altruism. When she is nice, it's usually for an ulterior motive, not because she wants to be nice.
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>>142034258

Depends. She and Iris both see a lot of Jurgen in Theo, so she's intrigued by them. She's also very nice to her werewolves, because she owns them. If Theo is a werewolf, I can see her being drawn to him as a proxy for Jurgen, and then eventually liking him for himself.
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>>142034258
>theorizing about Beatrix seeing someone as a Jürgen replacement
>whitewashing

If someone managed to fill the hole in her heart, Beatrix's "evilness" would drop dramatically- There is nothing wrong in speculating what could do that.
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>>142034473
>love can redeem
>in Schwarzesmarken, which takes a shit on Tru-Luv

>>142034391
Isn't she nice to them out of more practical reasons than anything else. Being a total cunt like the anime shows would make them less willing to give it their all, wouldn't it?
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>>142033435
That is actually actually exactly what I was thinking sort of would happen in a Beatrix route.

Part of the anguish is Bea trying to unconciously and conciously make him like Jurgen again, torn with her own sense of how wrong it is and how Theo should be allowed to blossom as his own person. And maybe the anguish of whether her love is merely for Jurgen, or whether she has genuine feelings for Theo.

How would ribbons Beato look anyways? She wore hair ties at most I think, right?

>>142033672
Thanks nonetheless.

>>142033883
Exactomundo. Lise sadly, would have to be dead in a proper Bea route. It would be a wild ride, for damn sure. Feels to the end of time. I figure it'd be something like that picture of Kurt and his waifu in the USSR in the foxhole.

I figured the point of divergance would probably be when they confront Lise on the rooftop. After you clear the other routes, an option for Lise to get shot opens up.

Beatrix comes later to demand her price - they are all set to be imprisoned, but she gives an option out. Theo has to come with her.
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>>142034941
>How would ribbons Beato look anyways?

Either pic related or >>142028601
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>>142034941

oh man, if the 666th was responsible for Lise's death, then a Beato/Theo route would be a very wild ride indeed.

I can see a confrontation, where Theo demands to know why Beatrix sent Lise to join the 666th, when Beatrix tells him that yes, she was there to keep an eye on things, but that the Werewolves already had enough informers and collaborators among the crew that she didn't need to be there, and Beatrix had ultimately agreed to let Lise infiltrate the 666th so that she could reunite with her brother.

That would probably start Theo down a path where very bad things happen to the 666th.
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>>142034258
It's not whitewashing, it's the facts. She's not incapable at all. Kindness, she's been a kind person ever since she was born, even when the world was cruel to her. It's not that she's now incapable of it, it's that she lives and works in a system that punishes the good as weaknesses to be stamped out.

As for altruism, that's one of her main planks. That's why she's fighting partly, she views her fight as for mankind instead of more narrow self-interests.

As for love, it's what she's desperately wanted, and tried to give out, ever since she was young. How she is now is really just a twisted version of what she was before Jurgen, a lonely constnatly suffering little girl, with immense bitterness and hatred against 'das system' thrown in.

>>142034391
She's not just nice to them because she owns them. Many of them are people (not just girls) she's rescued from horrible situations themselves, and many of them owe their lives to her. She also provided the support pillar of love and kindness that they needed to roughly heal. They're not fanatical to her out of some misplaced sense of loyalty. These are some of the most cynical, etc people around. If they wanted to jump ship, they would have.

>>142034473
To be fair, I don't think anyone will EVER manage to "fill" the hole in Beatrix's heart, which would provide a lot of the sadness in such relationship like that. But, something new can be built on top of the old ruins, you know?
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>>142018199
Would you Pilot Turkish TSF /a/?
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>>142035193
>if the 666th was responsible for Lise's death

[Sound of glass shattering]

The only X-factor in this whole scenario is Katia. I don't see her willingly taking part in killing Lise.
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>>142035264

It's not about filling the hole in her heart, it's about making it stop hurting so much, even though it's still there.

Also, for Beatrix, I think a lot of the pain comes from the fact that she never got the chance to own her feelings or grieve properly, so every moment for her is like the one where she found out Jurgen was dead.
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>>142035193
Oh, we can get darker indeed.

If he did get 'forced' to go with Beato at that time, he's loyal to the 666th. Forcing himself to go with the monster to save his crew would be horrifying to him, but he'd take the decision out of Iris's hands and do it.

No my friend, the true anguish comes later. Where he still looks out for and loves his old crew, and yet loves his new crew and Beatrix and her vision - and then the civil war kicks off.

When he's one of the Werewolfs rushing to to Bebersee base, the one 666th behind to guard the rebels escape is Pham.
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>>142035422

Turkish manufactured? maybe. their MIUC is pretty decent.

Turkish aligned? fuck no. Unless "dahl" was my CO, I guess.
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>>142035422
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>>142035462
>The only X-factor in this whole scenario is Katia. I don't see her willingly taking part in killing Lise.

She was in on the plot.

Katia's not as innocent as you think.

>>142035493
That's much better anon, that's right.

It'd be kind of the like watching a Theo-Anette relationship. There would be pain, but there would also be joy.
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>>142035494
>Pham trying to save Theo from Stasi influence while Theo still cares about her

Fuck, that's tragic. In a dark mirror of the light version, I can see one of the last things he does is finally calling her nee-chan.
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>>142035422
Considering they use F-16s and F-4s...I guess?
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>>142035725
>Remove Terrorists from the premises
>Then proceed to shitpost on Internet
Dahl is turkish to the core
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>>142035647
Again, not killing.

Putting Lise under arrest for everyone's safety? I can certainly believe her going along with that. In fact, she'd probably say it's a good thing, as it keeps Lise safe until everything is sorted out. But executing Lise outright in that instance on the rooftop? I'm having a hard time seeing her supporting that.

This is a girl who is naively dedicated to the idea that everyone can and should get along, and that you can be there for people and forgive them even if no one else will.
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>>142035422
>>142035553
>>142035725
REMOVE KEBAB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=katLOXqXA8U
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>mfw Martyrs is so delayed because age reads our and the JP threads, and keep having to change storylines because Koukhi finds some despair he likes in our theorizing and incorporates it
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>>142035854
Reminder that before this, she was seriously thinking of taking up Lise's offer.
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>>142035917
Literally sadism.
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>>142035910
Defend Kebab at all costs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k_CQb5X8-4
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>>142035975
True, but it was an offer meant to be tempting: turn in Iris to protect everyone else.
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>>142036000
>Defend Kebab at all costs
Shit trips
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>>142036000
Fuck off turknigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj3zL3rF-EI
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>>142036091
Oh no no, that was Katia's very secondary motivation. We all know what her primary motivation was.

I know the anime sought to make Iris look like a flawless, sexless saint, and Katia as the light of God, but it's deeper than that. Even the anime included these snippets.
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>>142035917
The thing that would anger the most people would be three Irisdina routes with slight variations.
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>>142036181
Kidnapping Gretel, knocking her out with chloroform!

Doing Lasik surgery without her consent!

Having Gretel wake up with clear vision, and start to cry!
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>>142036212
>it ends up been Mass Effect 3 endings

pls no
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>>142036130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swDgndb5ClI
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>>142036273
>Thinking of Madoka.jpg

also, kill yourself fag
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>>142036212
>>142036283

>Route with Iris in a black bikini
>Route with Iris in a white bikini
>Route with Iris in a polka dot bikini
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>>142018199
>still no decent porn of beatrix raping iris

Literally why. And Leymei still won't explain why he doesn't do muv luv doujins anymore.
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>>142036363
> And Leymei still won't explain why he doesn't do muv luv doujins anymore.
Brain hemorrhages tend to that.
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>>142036212
Suddenly the Stasi don't sound too bad.
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>>142036212
>three Irisdina routes with slight variations.
One for each hole.
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>>142035706
But we can go deeper in our tragedy, right?

Yes we can!

Pham was one of the few who understood Theo's heart, and thus was one of the few smiling, crying happily when Theo had to leave.

And she understands Theo and thus the Stasi/Werewolf position has some positive, because Theo IS staying. She's crying happily Theo found something to believe in.

Theo would very clearly break, having to kill someone like that. Especially if it was a slow death where he got to hear every labored breath and tear as she happily told him how much she loved him, and how proud she was of him. And how he did nothing wrong.

And even as she was dying, she would still struggle to hug and comfort him.
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>mfw there are more than three routes
>Koukhi tacks a note inside each box explaining he fooled people into thinking he just bought more cars with the extra money
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>>142035553
>Turkish aligned? fuck no.
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>>142036575
Please stop. It hurts.
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>>142036575
Jesus Christ are you masturbating to this?
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>>142037023
>that imouto face

Is it time?
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>>142035917
>>142035975
>>142036189
I must protect Katia. REMOVE STASI!
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>>142037333
>defending a spy
>shooting your family
I'm amazed he didn't die from the karma
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>>142037117
Best time of the day. Gotta keep that troop morale up, Werewolf pack style.
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>>142037023
>>142037578
Wonder how the animefags are going to the VN when it comes out.
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>>142037849
They probably won't rub her seasick tummy the heartless bastards.
https://u.pomf.is/ggmxim.mp4
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>>142037974
Yeah, they'll do there best to make her feel like crap.

Did Theo rub her belly in the LN?
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>>142036575
I want to suck on those tits.
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>>142038030
Nah if anything they'll be at first confused why it seems so different. It should bring up some healthy discussion that digs a little deeper into these characters.

https://u.pomf.is/vnpgrt.mp4
https://u.pomf.is/vbiygg.m4v
https://u.pomf.is/wxuvwq.mp4
https://u.pomf.is/aibbjt.m4v
https://u.pomf.is/ifruvp.mp4

plus Beatrix shenanigans https://a.pomf.cat/jiakcv.mp4

Also yes
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I love my Haruka.
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>>142038744
I don't care if they're evil, I want to befriend Beatrix and the Werewolves so bad it hurts.
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>>142040483
>so bad it hurts.
That's the dehydration from posting on /a/ all day acting up.
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>>142040650
Don' criticize my fapping habits, anon.
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>>142038744
>https://u.pomf.is/aibbjt.m4v
She seems frustrated for some reason. Is this because Theo ditched her? He is quite the mood killer.
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I love my Gretel
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>>142040483
Damn Kouki, why'd you have to go make the anti-waifu character so hot?
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>>142040818
She knows about Iris's connections with the rebellion, and she's thinking about what she has to do. Also Theo and Iris had a bit of a moment, and she knows he has feelings for her, so double whammy.
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Inia, Yui and Cryska are my waifus.
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>>142041282
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>>142041282
rule 6
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>>142041282
>multiple waifus
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Beatrix and Irisdina are my milk sources.
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>>142042171
Jurgen motorboated that.
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>>142041282
Inia is mine
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>>142042798

"Welcome to walmart"
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>>142043079
She had a more grim expression when she said that
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>>142042798
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>>142018199
>>142018199

Kirke is a miracle of the universe.
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>>142043715
I'd sample Iris
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>>142043485
>And from that day forward their clientele increased in numbers tenfold, many shopping simply to catch a glimpse of the radiant sun that is her smile, blinding all with her shining aura.
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>>142043649
Amen.
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>>142043649
A Kirke is fine too.
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Why did Liden do such a horrible job adapting Carnelian's designs? Even fucking Deen did better than Liden.
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TDA finale fucking when
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I want to get into a fist fight with this boy.
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>>142044709
What is up with animes giving breast upgrades to girls?
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>>142044709
Anime never does Carnelian's art style justice.
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>>142045926
Yeah, but that certainly looks closer to Carnelian than the designs in Schwarzesmarken.
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>>142045926
Carnelian is a good person.
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Irisdina is for marrying with the purpose of domestic abuse
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>>142046797
And by domestic abuse we mean surprise anal.
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>>142044709
It's because Liden did not give a fuck. I don't think any of the people involved in the anime were passionate about the anime. From the director, to the animators, to even the VAs. Except for Kenichi, most of the voice work was no where near the quality of the visual novel. Just compare Beatrix or Iris, they sound like two totally different people between the anime and VN.
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>>142040818
That music always gets me, especially when it shifts to the more intense second half.

If the anime did one thing, it set in my mind that that piece usually means bad, or sad news is afoot.

>>142037849
They'll go ballistic and demand age change it "to match the source material (i.e. anime)".

>>142040887
>anti-waifu

If Theo manages to make her happy like she used to be again, I guarantee you you'll cry.
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>>142046697
>that filename

The good die young

;_;
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>>142047166
What was her story again?
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>>142038744
>all those clips

Jesus Christ, my heart. We really got it bad vis a vis the anime, don't we?
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>>142043837
I just got back from my shift.

Sorry, not even Lise being there would inspire me to spend a minute longer there than I have to.
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>>142047626
>Soldier-kun plushie

They really find a way to put him in any and all illustrations.
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>>142047254

She gets bullied for being a junker, has a crush on a cute boy who is older than her, turns out he's cruising on her too, Annet tries to help her seduce him, they have a good time despite Annett's advise, the boy goes off to war as a tsf pilot and gets eaten my the beta, and she's suicidal by the time she meets grappler, and her death at iris' hands is a welcome relief. >>142047414
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>>142047735

You slide the thin, hanging door open and switch the light on. Gretel yelps, and turns away from the light, curling up on your broken double mattress. As her sponsor, you took the girl in when she was resettled as part of an experimental refugee program, a world away from the war and suffering in Europe. Now, it's time to help her integrate into her new community.

"Gretel, wake up! it's time for your first day of work!"

You pull a pair of black slacks off the floor along with an inexpensive blouse. Gretel crawls into the clothing and you shuffle her out the door. You step out of the trailer into the cold, never ending drizzle, and load her into your 1978 Honda Civic. You hand the girl a cup of Folgers coffee and a package of twinkies, which she eats sleepily. She finishes the coffee as you drive over interstate 5 and onto the Tulalip Indian reservation. You pull into the Quilceda shopping center, just south of the casino, and drop her off in front a large blue building. She head to the back, where she puts on a blue vest and nametag she had gotten a few days earlier while she filled out her W-2 and I-8 forms for her new employer. Finally, she heads back to the front of the building, where she begins to chant a greeting to the customers, her eyes glassing over every time she repeats her new catchprase:

"Welcome to Wal-mart! Welcome to Wal-mart!"
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>>142047254
Basically a different kind of Pham. A classmate and best friend of Anette (and Theo to the extent he ever made any connections to people after his funhaus visit), and some other unnamed pilots who had died just the week before SM starts. She was one of the pillars the 666th depended on emotionally.

German nobility in Poland, had been bullied mercilessly by other kids and her family by the state. Wouldn't harm a fly, friend to all things. There was a boy she loved dearly in Poland (Marco), I believe he died though.

One of the few people who could get along with Theo, she always insisted to everyone else that Theo really had a gentle and loving heart beneath his hard exterior (which she was technically right about).

As in the anime, it was Anette's PTSD, combined with Theo's callousness (partly his childhood survival method to live in the orphanage and on the streets that he had before he was adopted, partly his nature after the funhaus, and partly his way of dealing with the pain of the death of their fellow classmates) that ended up killing Inghild.

It causes Anette to absolutley hate Theo for a while. And herself.
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>>142047626
i wonder if Yuuhi will pilot the purple takemikazuchi on TDA 04.
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>>142047895
>Tulalip Indian reservation

I bet you they have the Listerine in those theft proof boxes.
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>>142047895
Heh I remember that. Good times as ever.

Also, they don't really do that anymore, if at all. The greeters are actually checking to make sure you ain't stealin - some stories even have them check reciepts like they do at Sam's Club.
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>>142044709
>>142045926
Wait, how many works has CARNELIAN worked on anyways?

Who is CARNELIAN anyways?
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>>142047414
Yes, that the show is the first a majority of the western audience has seen of these characters is a travesty, but for those whose interest was piqued or could see that there was more than met the eye, the best is yet to come. As far as quality of story and characterization goes its literally all uphill from there. SM is no fine literature but its not gonna make you wanna pull your teeth out like the anime. Not as much anyway.
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>>142048510
I want to talk shit about Jurgen around Beatrix.
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>>142048546
I guess you wanna die slowly too.
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>Spirit of Truth and Pastor Manning will never fly in a TSF Squadron

;_____________;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_pV0H5ieiw
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>>142048573
She'd probably sniffle and need to blow her nose, bless the poor girl. She'd probably earnestly try defending him to you, forgetting she's a Stasi chief, like she was years ago.

She's vulnerable to few things. Barbs against Jurgen is one of them.
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How would Lise like her cheeks getting pinched?
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>>142048776
>THAT FUCKING HURT
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>>142048819
What if I'm really gentle about it?
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>>142048776
If you're Theo, she'd enjoy it.

If she's horny, she'd ask Theo to pull harder.
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>>142048836
>Implying she would allow you
>Implying she would allow anyone but Theo to do that
>Implying you can replace Theo
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I want to Kick Gretel in the balls and punch him in the face for being a shit commissar.
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>>142048944
What the hell did Theo do doing their youth to earn him such undying devotion. It couldn't have been the ribbons. Could it
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>>142048510
>that filename

Is that what she was saying? Is that what she did there? I caught that part where she said she was late because the Mig-23s maintainence problems are well known yada yada, but is that what she was saying in that latter half?

I did notice in the clip that they kept the Stasi person saving Katia, but I'm pretty saddened they didn't show that TSF then looking at Theo for a while before taking off.
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>>142049048
>you will never be Theo and have an imouto so cute and loyal
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>>142036434
even death explain that.
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>>142049094
No I took some artistic liberties with the translation don't take it literally. And yeah I think that was supposed to be Lise in the Mig-23.
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>>142049048
The ribbons were merely symbolic. Basically, once he realized that this family loved him, he changed completely. He was always there for Lise, always close, always willing to do anything for her. He even says once he realized they had saved him, he prayed, thanked God for the first time in his life.

Lise had already fallen in love by the time of the ribbons.

tldr he's like Beatrix in that his miserable life knew a few years of eurphoic happiness and love until it was brutally crushed and he was thrown back harder than ever into a cruel world.
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Teenage Beatrix is for soft bullying.
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>>142049269
Bullying Beatrix in bed sounds like a lot of fun.
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>>142049219

What is it with children in anime losing their fucking minds over having dinner?
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How do you make Lise like you?
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>>142048510
>>142049211
What did Lise think about Beatrix delaying the rescue to get the 666th killed?
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>>142049559
Never shown. But Theo getting chomped while he's out operating was one of her greatest fears.
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I want to princess-carry this adorable thing so much.
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>>142049407
Have you ever had dinner with people you truly cherish, anon?

It's magical. You're happy throughout.
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>>142049835
>people you truly cherish
Fuck you for reminding me that I don't know that feeling.
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>>142049559
Was Beatrix responsible for the delay, or was it Axmann/stasi command?

Not saying it's not something she wouldn't do, but her speech to the WW mentioned that command would determine when best to use them.
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>>142049407
Any occasion can be special if it's with the one you love.
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>>142036273
Why would she cry.
Does she have an emotional connection to her glasses?
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>>142049890
I want to criticize her cooking until she runs away crying
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>>142036273
>chloroform
She deserves a good punch to the face, not this painless bullshit.
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>>142049900
Because the dirty capitalists fixed her eyesight.
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>>142049917
OK Iris.
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>>142049211
It could have been Beato though too, remember that.

Which makes the whole offering Theo a chance to be a collaborater (really though, defect to the Werewolves) much more interesting in context, since that means she's been observing him for a while now.

Plus I don't think Lise is assigned as part of Beatrix's main flight. If memory serves, she's a flight leader or under one of those leads who is under Beatrix.

>>142049559
To be fair, it wasn't exactly the 666th she wanted to get killed (which was operating as part of a larger composite wing of several squadrons anyways), it was not even primarily to weaken the Army (though the Stasi as a whole was desiring that, and only even then just a bit, since they still needed the army to fight), as to claim political credit.
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>>142049967
>implying she gets away without crying
Iris is for painful braid-pulling.
All girls should be hurt.
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>>142049810
She does give off a princess/damsel in distress sorta vibe.

>>142049534
Like you or like like you? Because being nice to her and treating her well is more than enough to make her like you. Doesn't mean you're gonna crack her shell but she's quite affection starved as it is.

>>142049859
Stasi command but its not like she didn't enjoy the thought of Iris under pressure.
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Telling Katia bedtime stories about BETAs chomping on people in the most gruesome, painful and nightmarish details possible!
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>>142050096
Which one would be enough for her to let me headpat her?
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You just defeated Beatrix. She lies absolutely defenseless in front of you.
Do you rape her?
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>>142047108
>that picture
>except with Theo this time

My heart would literally give out. This is your chance age. You have to do this.

>>142036940
>>142037023
No, I'm not. But I will not stop. I cannot stop. But I'm a firm believer that feelings must be felt. That at the raw core of a person, there is truth.

True love is such a powerful force, why not weave it into a powerful tapestry of emotions? I don't blame Koukhi. I understand why he does it.

The despair can go even deeper. It can always go deeper. Why? The light is brightest in the deepest, blackest pits of Hell. It is then when you truly feel that feeling of pain, sadly. But isn't it better in the end, that way? Doesn't it feel good to know you are human enough that even in these jaded, cynical times, that you can still feel? That you can still love?

Being a Phamfag, I have to say that while it would really make me feel bad, it would also make me feel happy because Pham died as she lived, as who she is. Boundless, unconditional love.
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>>142050207
I hug her, telling her she doesn't have to fight alone anymore.

>>142049917
Iris, your criticisms would be more laudable if you could actually cook.
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>>142050207
No. Beato needs love and healing, not rape.
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I want Sylwia to let some of her anger out on me and beat me up
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>>142050096
>She does give off a princess/damsel in distress sorta vibe.
That's because she is, except that the tower she's stuck in is more like an all pervading Kafkaesque nightmare that you're caught up in too. And the corruption of the place has sort of gotten to her, as it has to others.

>>142050139
Be nice to her and support her pursuit of onii-chan. Best case is that she starts seeing you like a second onii-chan. Her heart will belong to Theo, but she'll care about your wellbeing too.

>>142050207
Hug her and tell her that you forgive her, even if no one else will. Hold her tightly as she tries to escape your embrace (some pain may occur) until she gives up and starts letting out those balled up emotions.

We're talking about someone who is convinced that she's beyond forgiveness and has become evil. For someone like that, you don't strike at the body. You strike at the soul.
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>>142050269
Iris can cook actually. Read BiS. It opens with her cooking breakfast for Jurgen.

Beatrix is probably the better cook though.
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>>142050207
With a combat knife!
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>>142050233
>I'm a firm believer that feelings must be felt. That at the raw core of a person, there is truth.
>True love is such a powerful force, why not weave it into a powerful tapestry of emotions? I don't blame Koukhi. I understand why he does it.

>>142050374
>She does give off a princess/damsel in distress sorta vibe.
>That's because she is, except that the tower she's stuck in is more like an all pervading Kafkaesque nightmare
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>>142050438
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>>142050501
I want her to scold me with a smug look on her face.
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>you will never bully Gretel
Her appearance is probably even less intimidating than Katia's yet she's a commissar.
There's something about this that makes me want to see her pout and act angry in a cute way.
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I want this man to teach me the secrets of bullying girls.
I think he's more skilled and experienced at it than I am.
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>>142050980
What makes you believe that?
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>>142051007
I never thought of giving the girl a rock and make her kill a child with it.
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>>142050374
I simply adore the mental image of hugging Beatrix so tight even as she flails on you, screaming and hurling insults, eventually just stopping, her hits becoming less forceful, and being reduced to sobbing.

It's probably what Jurgen faced. You can see it in that picture of him kissing her. She just finally gave up. She didn't have the energy or the will anymore to keep fighting him off. She was tired of running.
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Reminder that this is the luckiest man in all of Muv Luv universe.
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>>142049938
Good, time to murder them all with that 20/20 for the glory of Lenin.
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>>142050606
Maybe you`re Martin.
That how he got on wild Gretel ride.
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>>142048123

The Tulalips are pretty bourgeois as far as Indian reservations go, they're well managed and located in the suburbs of a relatively wealthy city, Everett and they use that to their advantage. Probably the only reservation that would be any better off is the Puyallup reservation which is basically in the middle of Tacoma. Of the suburban reservations, the Muckleshoots are the worst off because they have a checkerboard reservation, but that might end up being to their advantage as the city of Auburn encroaches on the parcels they do not own. The Tulalip reservation is also only an hour (depending on traffic) from Seattle so it's easy to get to. All three of them are putting their revenue to good use funding healthcare and education for tribe members. It's not like a plains reservation where Fetal Alcohol syndrome is practically endemic.
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>>142048471
One of age's (as relic, back in the day) founding members but went freelance shortly after the original KimiIta release.
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>>142051755
Ah, just doing the stereotype m8. Yeah not all tribes are doing suckass, it's good to know.

I live in the Midwest. Ours are...there, I guess. Most white people are a quarter or eighth or sixteenth or something Native.

>>142052935
Pray brothers, we may just see it.
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>>142047626
>Marimo-chan in black lingerie

Yes please.

>>142050233
This is the one thing that drove me to this series, the fact that the writers do not give a fuck about you and do this kind of feelsy-grimdark crap.

even so, that would be specially cruel. Probably one of the cruelest things you could do in this series

>>142050374
>For someone like that, you don't strike at the body. You strike at the soul.

*Slow clap*
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>Unfortunately, some technical issues meant that the Muv-Luv Extra BETA couldn't be polished up in time for our projected launch date -- and with just over a month to finish working on Muv-Luv, we believe it would be best to focus all of our efforts on the full Steam release instead. We’re very sorry to everyone who was anticipating the BETA, but we believe this will help to ensure we can deliver a more complete, polished product when the full game launches.

The rugp-Engine strikes again huh?
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Dat Miko Meiya daki
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>>142055331
Hakama are always nice, aren't they?
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>>142055331
where
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>>142051734
>Martin is taping dat ass

I'm mad jelly
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>>142055483
>sample
Why does Beatrix get all the scans?
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>>142055594
Beato-fags are more devoted.
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>>142055396
beautiful
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>>142055594
Because she is the most popular girl
Gretel will always be the number one for me
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there should be a stream today right?
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>>142055672
Yes.
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If i didn't know better.
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>>142051158
He's suffered a very, very long time to get to this place.

I just hope at least one path lets him have a future with Sylwia. They deserve that much at least.

>>142054847
So no beta huh. Are we getting compensated in some way?

lol fuck no we aren't, are we.
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>>142051050
I do too.

People like that are among the most damaged of the lot. It's the type of person who has genuinely lost hope and faith, both in other people and in him/herself. They're either only existing (not really living, just going through the motions) or living while clinging onto some vague hope/dream/ambition/principle/code/whatever. So when this person encounters someone who not only sees right through him/her, but also accepts and forgives them (faults and all, more often than not negative), it's as if this person is naked and utterly exposed. A breakdown and release of repressed emotions (typically a mix of anxiety, guilt, fear, and crushing loneliness) is usually the result. Afterwards, they tend to become very attached to that special person who helped them open up, romantically or not.

I'm admittedly speaking from personal experience on this. Darwinian cutthroat environments are not conductive towards one's health and emotional state of being.
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>>142047626
>>142018199
>>142048091
Where are these images coming from?
Also is the one with Meiya and Type 00R implying that Shoguns TSF survived the floods?
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>>142048585
This is worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DL0tizD-qs
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>>142054847
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>>142056412
>Also is the one with Meiya and Type 00R implying that Shoguns TSF survived the floods?
Yep, since all the Type 00's got spared from the flood due to the IRG moving them all at Hawaii. Hence Meiya even joke about how the Shogun's Type 00R is collecting dust due to not being use and always son standby on the hangars staring at the sky..
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>>142055396
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>>142056506
Fuck she said that in TDA? Noice, I went throw the untranslated episodes and totally missed that memo.

Makes me happy to know this bad boy doing fine.
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>>142056412
Why is the Japanese nobility so fucking useless?

Seriously. I know they simply exist so Koukhi could give Japan another line of mechs with the few-but-powerful themery, but this is poop. I know people have boners for Meiya and Yuuhi, but they are symbolic of so much that is shit about about ML Japan.
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>>142056722
I`d sample that all night long.
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>>142056638
Anon, they are playing the same role British Royal family played during WW2. But towards the end of alternative and in TDA they gain bigger influence and power due to the current government being weaken and becoming smaller.
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>>142056739
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>>142054847
>>142055396
>>142056722
>>142056757
doing gods work anon
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>>142056757
And that too.
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>>142056722
>>142056757
Sumika has no business being that cute.
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>>142055672
>>142055681

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv264515999
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>>142056821
>>142056854
I`d rape that.
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>>142056058
She killed Walter when he tried to talk to her though.
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>>142056885
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>>142056910
I love you long and nice cyka blyat.
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MARIMO-CHAN
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>>142056611
I know what you mean. Fucker probably will have similar fate in TDA, but this time it will be glorious rather than sad.
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>>142056957
I`d make her a mother.
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>>142056907
After he told her that she was wrong and that was she was doing wasn't what Jürgen would have wanted.

Trying the whole calming her down thing while she was still armed was extremely unwise. Otherwise he could have succeeded, even if she threw a fit at first.
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>>142056611
Yeah she said right at the end of TDA 02 , though they are probably gonna have that roll out on TDA 04 in their future last stand.
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>>142056879
Stream is getting interesting.
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>>142057142
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>>142057166
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>>142057142
>>142057166
So rugp.exe was finally tamed.
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>>142035553
>MIUC
?
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Did the game died at "now loading"?
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>>142057190
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>>142057221
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>>142057142
>>142057191
They added the eye blinks and mouth movement for Extra, kewl. They are pulling everything to Alternative level plus the console exclusive scenes.
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>>142057241

So you can swap back and forth between languages pretty easily.
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>>142057261
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Will be getting the android version or nah?
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>>142057261
Looks like it. What I am wondering how will they deal about the original OPs of Ultimate and Alternative? I want the option to switch between them. And wonder if this >>142056961 scene will be in HD.
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Newfag here with some questions.

I only watched the Total Eclipse anime and I more less know basic stuff from the VN.

Can I watch this new? Muv Luv anime and understand what the fuck is happening and shit?

I just see this eternal thread all the time and I really liked the girls from Total Eclipse and the plot.
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>>142057314
Yes
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>>142057350
They probably use the all ages re edited version which was more clear and fluid.
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>>142057371
The anime is a pretty bad adaptation. You can still watch it, but there are some pretty glaring plot holes and things left unexplained (like why the heroine and main villain are trying to kill each other over Jurgen).
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>>142057371
Long story short anon, if you read original VNs you will love it more that Total eclipse.
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FAUKI HORE SHET
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>>142057371
You'll understand what's happening, but you will not get the characters.

There is a reason 2 out 5 five Jap fans say that Beatrix or Lise are best girls while the anime, well, you'll get what I mean when you watch it.
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>>142057854
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>>142057854
>>142057866
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>>142057887
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>>142056961
>but this time it will be glorious rather than sad.
Obviously since they are probably gonna have a last stand when the BETA blindside and surrounds them. But this time it will have all the different Takemikazuchi colors with the Strike Eagles,Raptors and Rafales, typhoons dancing on the salt fields for a one last dance.

Seriously i want to see it :_:
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>>142057916
I though that finger was a really long penis.
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>>142057371
Yeah, just don't come here and sperg out about your rabid hatred of Beatrix and Lise like most anime onlies do.
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>>142057866
>>142057887
oh my
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>>142057939
Is worth the wait.
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>>142058021
Those characters important or something?
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>>142058269
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>>142057939
I wonder if those UN painted Shiranui's were the Valkyries..I hope they appear
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>>142058310
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>>142058269
>>142058310
>>142058336
Shame that no one is translating these or the Alternative manga.
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>>142058336
And that's it. All in all, much better than last weeks stream.
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>Gretel will never confess to you

I can't take it any more
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>>142055396
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>>142058353
>or the Alternative manga.

http://www.tonigobe.net/
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Pardon my autism, but in the events of Schwarzesmarken, what happened to Poland? Was it overrun completely? I assume this was after the failure of Operation Patalaiogos(?).
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>>142057939
>mfw they are probably gonna play War Dog , Storm vanguard and Raptors at the Salty Fields OST at the same time in that last stand

Fucking when already age
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>>142056957
That's kinda lewd Marimo

>>142056058
Ah yes, that's a metaphor I like to make too - not really living, just existing. If one can pry that away. It is that feeling of vulnerability that is so frightful, and yet necessary.

It's scary to trust someone, you know? But it must be done. Ah, I shouldn't keep getting my hopes up for a Beato route. Still, it would be nice...

>>142057191
Interesting.

Are they showing off the English voicing or not yet? Not that I'd have the voices in English anyways...probably.

>>142057371
Good man.

Schwarzesmarken you mean? The anime is....lacking. But by all means, watch it and then come here. That said, don't sperg out like other animeonlies do, as mentioned. After watching, you're bound to have questions. Just ask.

Sadly, it's not nearly as satisfying as TE was. On a minor note, just in case you didn't know, the Total Eclipse VN not only has more detail even, but the story doesn't end where it does in the anime, it goes further.

>>142057866
>Buhboobs

Is that our new meme?

>>142058269
>>142058353
Oh fuck Yuuya's mad!

Damn shame. The TE manga looks really nice.
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>>142058021
>beatofag can`t handle anything other than an echochamber
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>>142057854
>>142057866
>>142057887
>>142057916
So will there be fuckings or not in this version.
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>>142058602
Overrun in 79 according to this.

http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_Timeline
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>>142058384
>wishing for a communist murderhappy rat

Come on son.

>>142058602
Well basically, after the failure of the Minsk Hive assault/Op Pailogos, BETA kept pushing upwards until they finally bisected the USSR from their vassals in the Warsaw Pact. So it's a wide mix. Some Soviet forces got trapped on the western side and so are with Pact command, whose forces fought as best to delay the BETA away from pouring into Europe so they could all build giant fortress works - which GDR, Romania, and Czechoslovakia did.

Yes at start of SM, Poland is overrun completely...well more or less. BETA traspire through it, and smashed what was in their way, but they haven't really dug into it.

Most of the Polish population is either in East Germany, or elsewhere in the Pact. Some Pact forces likewise were trapped on the Soviet side of the battleline, and have been and will be fleeing with the Soviets as they go East (this is presumably where Sandek is from, he's a Pole).
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>>142058021
beato a shit
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>>142057259
>eye blinks and mouth movement
that was added a decade ago at the re-release of muv luv
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>>142058807
>It's scary to trust someone, you know?
This hits home.
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>>142064353
Hmmm, is this common among us Lise- and Beato-fags?
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>>142065612
I think it's common for most people to not easily trust others, depends on where you've been raised.
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>>142059098
>murderhappy rat

nice implications
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How does the VN handle portraying the adorable and light-hearted Chibi segments? Do they voice these over too? Is there dialogue? Anyone got a clip of any of them? Thanks.

Dying for any shred of happiness in SM
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>>142066272
Not him but to be fair she's pretty damn quick to threaten execution on the whole squad in the first LN if they defy the parties orders and is responsible for a few of Theo's bad ends in the VN. She gets better around Suzy o'clock but still she's a bit nuts.

>>142066935
Yeah they're just spliced into the scenes with voiceovers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sJkwBo2T4w
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>>142067104
That music that played when he spat towards Walther. Glorious.

Thanks, mate.
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>>142067382
I think the OST is called 'Grappler'
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>>142067104
>Lise starts revealing Theo's embarassing secrets/past
>he tries to stop he-
>Katia, Anett, Lise, and Gretel all simultaneously tell him to back off
>all he can do is stand as his imouto shatters his public 2kewl4u persona, reveals his years-old preference for busty blond onee-chans (making a special note that Iris fits the type just right), and that he had posters of such while he was a student

Loves onii-chan, but is willing to embarrass him for public amusement.
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>>142068063
>Loves onii-chan, but is willing to embarrass him for public amusement.

I'm getting strong Yuuko/Beato vibes there. I wonder if she learned that form Beatrix.
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>>142068063
As is the job of any good imouto

>>142068151
She may have picked up a few of Bea's social habits
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>>142068151
Possibly, though what little sister doesn't enjoy embarrassing her onii-chan from time to time? Especially if he's clearly spent so much time building a public persona that could be summarized with the word *tch*.
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>>142068063
>Theo wants to be edgy but imouto won't let him
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>>142069220
Yet his edge wins over his imouto in the end.
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>>142069582
No Iris or Lise or even Katia to calm him down. Or maybe Katia failed at calming him down since motorboating doesn't work well at that size.
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>>142069582
>>142069713
I think Jurgen would be just as bad if it had been Beatrix who'd died in his stead.
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>>142069582
Kinda hard to keep your Onii-chan's edge in check when he already put a bullet through your head.
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>>142069969
Dumbass Onii-chan.
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>>142069220
That's because his imouto has literally lived the edge and she knows it isn't all it's cracked up to be.

But does onii-chan listen? Noooo....
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>>142070091
Imouto seems to have gone through involuntary edge, very different from Onii-chan's self-imposed edge.
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>>142069803
>Jürgen goes full Char as in Char's Counterattack.

Damn, that would have been one hell of a ride, Europe would either last until 2001 or would go down in the most spectacular manner possible.
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>>142070280
You know he would.
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>>142070280
>>142070337
Wouldn't Theo and the 666th just kill him like they did to Beatrix?
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>>142070378
>implying that he would commit the mistake of letting them live after capturing them like Beato did.
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>>142070091
>>142070152
>See Lise isn't it fun being edgy? Isn't it nice to free yourself from the bonds of morality?
>No...
>It feels good to do whatever you want, to take whatever you want doesn't it?
>No...
>Living for yourself is the only way to live am I right Lise?
>No...
>Too bad, you're gonna learn to be edgy and you're gonna learn to like it. Now where did you put that rock? The guys aren't gonna believe this.
>I wanna go home...
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>>142070501
I never understood why the stasi just didn't execute the prisoners when the rebels attacked them. Didn't Beatrix take the 666th as prisoners partly to use them as hostages afterall?
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>>142070633
Thousand baby stare.
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>>142070637
There are lots of plotholes and stupidity around, don't think about it too hard. Beatrix almost won several times, but failed to deliver the coup de grace. And then there is the rebels dumb luck.
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>>142070633
>Hey Lise, why didn't you kill the baby?

>It might *heh* blab about the children you just beat to death, and that would be one big PR nightmare for us.

>You know, I was just thinking about dear old Theo. I've just renovated our quaint little Stasi hotel, and I'd love to get his opinions on the decor.

>So, you know what to do... Oh and, no, I'll just take your handgun away. We're in the middle of a war after all and we can't just be wasting bullets willy nilly, so get to it!
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>>142070633
Is that ketchup?
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Meiya a shit.
Chizuru best girl.
Extra best Muv Luv.
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>>142071096
Yup, he used to be the "Grey Beast" not the "Brown Beast". It worked better too, it made him creepier while mantaining that slick charm of his.
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>>142071096
Yeah, before BiS retconned him into being the same age as Jurgen, he was twice the age of the rest of the cast.
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>>142071096
Yup the Grey Beast OG version before he got the Brown Beast redesign.
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>>142071188
>BiS retconned him into being the same age as Jurgen

Why? Like >>142071187 said, he's better as an old man.
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>>142071237
Something about making him into Jürgen's rival. It doesn't seem to work anyway, since he mostly stays in the Background in BiS anyway.

Or so I've heard.
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>>142071198
>>142071188
>>142071187

It is funny how your all immediately assume he's talking about the old man and not the red stuff all over Lise when he says 'Ketchup.' You're not wrong, but it's funny.

>>142071237

I don't understand this either. It's not like Axmann would let his age stop him from obsessing over Jürgen and Bea, he's perfectly capable of being childish.
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>>142071493
>It is funny how your all immediately assume he's talking about the old man and not the red stuff all over Lise when he says 'Ketchup.' You're not wrong, but it's funny.
Because ketchup is a nickname and I assumed people would know what I was referring to.
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>>142071073
Why couldn't Lise have been the one to take him down? I'd take Theo as a good second, and while its not like Iris didn't have her own bone to pick with him it just wasn't as cathartic as it could have been.
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>>142071610
Because everything about the finale was a huge letdown.
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>>142071544

Yes, i know, but it's funny because you could also be referring to the 'ketchup' covering Lise
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>>142058378
>Gaaaaah!!! You owe slugkind an apology!
I seem to recall the original line was "Gaaaaah!!! Apologize to slugs!" I like that one better, it's snappier and more simple sentence construction fits a brain-damaged bwaka like Sumika.
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>>142071790
Yep there was an opportunity for a joke there somewhere but guess we all missed it better luck next time.
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>>142071970
Is there a Ketchup-less version of that picture?
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>>142071659
Why is she still so hot, even when deranged with pain from having a giant sword rammed straight through her?

It's kinda funny (or sad) how she spends her last moments trying but failing to insult/bully Theo.
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>>142072004
Yes.
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>>142071610

>Good end Lise end
>Axmann is in a car speeding toward Checkpoint Charlie
>Lise intercepts him 100m from the border
>picks the car up by the roof and peels it open like a can of sardines
>Tears off his limbs one by one, then squeezes him until his head pops off like a zit, spewing gore all over the gathering crowd of onlookers.
>Breaks down crying
>666th and Werewolves stop fighting for a moment, luckily nobody else is dead, and agree to a truce.
>Pham makes Theo go comfort hoods sister. A moment earlier they had been fighting one another to the death.
>Without Axmann in the picture Iris and Beatrix are finally able to come to terms with one another
>Everyone unites to stop the Beta at the Oder-Niess one last time before evacuating the DDR
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>>142072279
Hulkmouto ending.
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>>142072395

Well she's in her Mig-23 at the time. You have to wonder if she views her TSF as a sort of sanctuary where she isn't small and vulnerable any more.
>>
>Additionally, we’ll be following Valve’s advice in regards to the release window, and our target month is July.
Half-Life 2 was targeted for September 2003, then came out November 2004. Does this mean that ML's release date will be moved from July 2016 to September 2017?
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So why are Beatrix and Lise so waifued here when everywhere else they're Irisfags?
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>>142072586
Contrarian minority
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>>142072559

HL2 was finished on time, and was delayed for over a year due to a contract dispute between Valve and Vivendi over the publishing rights when Vivendi belatedly realized how big of a thing Steam was going to be.
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>>142072586
Define "everywhere else". If you mean places like MAL and Reddit 99% of them don't know any more about SM than the anime, and I think thats pretty self-explanatory.
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>>142072586
We like tragic characters?
Also evil women make our dicks hard.
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>>142072661
>I like shit characters
Fixed
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>>142072586
The Chinese are overwhelmingly Beatofags and Lise- & Beato-fags are two-fifths of the Jap fandom.

>>142072679
>I have shit taste
Fixed
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>>142072656
>finished on time
HL2 was not finished by September 2003.
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>>142072600
I don't really see the appeal of anime Iris either. It's just odd that everywhere else I go, everyone goes on about how beautiful, cool, and wonderful Iris is (anime wise, Beatrix still has her beat in looks, Gretel in coolfactor, and so forth). Her death really hit them hard for some reason. Personally, she's kind of boring. If I didn't know any better, I still wouldn't waifu Iris.

>>142072660
MAL, reddit, tumblr; the usual cesspits that the majority of the animefandom hangs out at.
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>>142072660
>all this mental gymnastics to dismiss the anime and forcefeed your shitty LN
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>>142072700
Chinks tend to like Iris the most from some of their polls. Beatrix was a strong second though.
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>>142072891
>Chinks tend to like Iris the most from some of their polls. Beatrix was a strong second though.

Sauce? I was under the impression that the chinks had the strongest, or at least loudest, Beatrix fan-base.
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>>142072883
Is theres something you're upset about
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>>142072891
>>142072849

The Iris who makes bad puns and tells shitty jokes sounds adorable. The Iris we got was pretty forgettable, nothing she said or did made much of an emotional impact on me.

Lise on the other hand, even a Lise that Watanabe tried to ruin, stole the show.
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>>142072586
Same reason why wormslut has fans, the shittier girls tend to attract flies.

Welcome to anime fandom 101.
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>>142072962
after BiS she is number one in age stream polls and before that she was around 2nd or 3rd place.
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>>142073179
Iris or Beatrix?
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>>142073115
Can't keep a good Lise down. Even after the hell she went through she still knows how to smile.
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>>142073301
beatrix
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>>142073354

She really is the best and cutest SM
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>>142073179
That was one poll. If they pitted the two against one another again, Iris would win hard.
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>>142073433
Pure conjecture. Though age should pull that, it would most certainly rile the fanbase up.
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>>142073433
based on what?
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>>142073428
Maybe second best.
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>>142073428
I honestly like'em all but none hit me in the core quite like she does.

>>142074386
>Only one ribbon

Sorry pal not for me. Damn close contest tho.
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>>142073354
> Knows how to smile
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>>142074674
If her smile ain't protected she'll protect it her self. Even if it has to get a little twisted along the way.
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>>142074386
Enemy is not supposed to be this sexy!
>>
can someone post Takeru friendzoning meiya?
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>>142075289
This?
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>>142075381
yes. thank you.
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>>142075289
Fuck off Sumika.
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>>142075381
still hurts
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>>142074872
I agree. Making the main baddie so cute should be a crime.
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>>142074872
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>>142075959
Beato is love, Beato is life!

And most importantlyBeato is LOYALTY!
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>>142075959
Who was cuter, Beatrix at 15, or Lise at 15?
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>>142076131
Its a hard choice. Lise at 15 was pure moeblob, while Beatrix was already a semen demon.

I say Beato, but that's personal taste.
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>>142076050
beato a big nasty turd. gretel a best.
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>>142076131
Beatrix at 15 was perfect.
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>>142076242
You know, it's usually Katiafags who attack Beatrix.
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>>142076131
Lise cuter, Bea sexier.

>>142076323
They were both perfect.
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>>142076323
she was already killing little animals at that point.
>>142076360
katia is even bigger turd.
>>142076381
lise a slut. sucking many cock

gretel is love. gretel is life. gretel is pure.
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>>142076131
Lise is six pounds of sweetener shoved down your throat.
Beatrix is some very spicy meal with bhut jolokia as desert.

tl;dr Beato is sex, Lise is cute
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>>142076417
BAIT!
A
I
T
!
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>>142074638
>>142074793

Same. One of the reasons Lise affects me so much is even though she awakens my protective instincts, she's not a doormat. She's a strong girl with initiative and willpower. Her downfall was her conflicting loyalties and her assuming that Theo wasn't almost as broken as she was.

>>142076131

Fifteen year old Lise is pretty cute but she's a Kintsugi character, she's even more beautiful after she was broken and put back together.
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>>142076487
Lise is six pounds of diarrhea shoved down your throat.

Beatrix is some very spicy turd after eating a tacco.

tl:td Beato and Lise are both shit
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>>142076552
Is something troubling you?
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>>142076131
Theodore at 15
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>>142076673
Sasuga Heinz.
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>>142076602
no. just want you all too see the truth.
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>>142076673
Beaten down puppies aren't cute.
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>>142076713

We already know the truth.
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>>142076713
>your bad taste and vitriol
>the truth

You are a shame to the Gretel-fags
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>>142076785
The truth being that Sumika needs to take a hike?
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>>142076785
exactly my point. she is as shit as slutmika. and axmann totally raped her.
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Beatrix is basically like Hitler. Hitler thought he was helping humanity out by wiping out the untermensch, when all he was doing was frittering away resourced that would've been better spent on the war. He also was extremely wasteful with the lives of his soldiers, especially on the Eastern front, showing the same callous disregard of human life that Beatrix did. Finally, when he was sitting in his bunker as Berlin was shelled, he went on record as saying that he wished everyone would die with him, again matching up with Beatrix's mentality. We don't even need to mention their ability to inspire almost cult like devotion in their followers, how they both came to power through force, or how the both have black hair.

Ergo, Beatrix is based off of Hitler, in the same way that Axmann is based off of Heydrich.
>>
>>142076929
>>142077179
>>
>>142077179
Waffle Waffle Waffle Waffle Waffle Waffle Waffle Waffle Waffle Waffle Cheerio
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>>142077219
>>142077239

not baiting. you beato-fags are too delusional to see the truth just like she was.
>>
>>142077282
Fa fa fa fa fa fa fa.
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>>142077282
>Finally, when he was sitting in his bunker as Berlin was shelled, he went on record as saying that he wished everyone would die with him, again matching up with Beatrix's mentality
>[...]when all he was doing was frittering away resourced that would've been better spent on the war
>[...]how they both came to power through force, or how the both have black hair.

Three strikes in one Bait, and you tell us that we are delusional.

Hahahaha.
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>>142055396
Well, damn. I almost regret getting the Irisdina daki over the Meiya one.
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>>142077480
don't know why you are laughing you just proved my point.
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>>142077941
>A dying woman stating facts is a wish for the extinction of mankind.
>The actions of some minor mid level officer are comparable to the decisions of a head of government and state.
>The puppet that overthrew its supposed masters through cunning is comparable to the one that barely escaped death and killed its master due to a emotional impulse

You tell me how I proved your supposed point.
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>>142078165
>wanting to sacrifice DDR executing civilians at the wall when she was losing
>by the end she was head of stasi
>both were cunning and similar how beato and hitler rose to power

proved my point again dumbass
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>>142070633
>>142071073
Jesus Christ, what the fuck
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>>142077817
>>142078322
>>142078373
>>142078408
>>142075381
>>142058495
Bou style is a bit inconsistent at times but I consider pic related a best rendition and this >>142077932
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>>142078412
>Wanting to sacrifice some ten million for the good of mankind is comparable to some delusional Austrian saying that some sixty million should die due to his own incompetence.
>some hours in power are comparable to twelve years in power
>One cunning bastard is comparable to some lucky bitch

I am only seeing your projections, not a refutation of my opinions.
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>>142078616

I am only seeing your projections, not a refutation of my facts.
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>>142078785
>your projections
>facts

Your pretty funny.
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>>142078499
Horrifying thing is those posts are not exaggerating. Hiroki held nothing back, and Kouki encouraged him.
>>
>>142079018
>>142079018
>>142079018

Neuer Faden!

>>142079018
>>142079018
>>142079018
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