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Why doesn't poor girl win?

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Why doesn't poor girl win?
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Because they must PLEASE OLD MEN FOR MONEY
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>>141932231
Because if she did, it would've been a realistic outcome.
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>>141932231
>poor girl
She cant afford to win
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>>141932231
Is she actually poor in this show?
How the hell does she afford to dress like that?
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Because "mah incest"
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>>141933281
She made it herself
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Is it really losing when MC is incestious piece of shit? Nothing af value was lost really
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>>141932231
But she self-destructed didn't she? She won then left it.
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>>141933252
kek
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>>141933648
Poor girls are gross.
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>>141932231
Because she isn't poor you idiots. That was not her problem.
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>>141933363
Poor girls have bad education, it wasn't a smart idea for her to encourage the wincest. Alternatively she could of thought she was helping them with their familia relationship, how was she to know they were sexually attracted to each other.
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>poor people
>winning anything
pick one
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Her proper place in the world is pleasing fat old balding men for money, not falling in love and living happily ever after.
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>>141934038
wat?
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Kuroneko was never going to win

Kirino was the winner from the start

And THANK GOD

Now Kyousuke can fuck a 10/10 model instead of a stupid chuuni twig
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>>141932231
She lost because of her mole, not her wealth
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Do people forget that she forfeited?
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>>141936755
It was just a prank though
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>>141936713
Except they didn't fuck, and that's where the series went so wrong. MC-kun rejects a 9/10 goth loli and a 10/10 Ayase, just so that she can pretend to be in a relationship with her sister, and they still didn't fuck. My jimmies were literally rustled in the second season.
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>>141932231
Same reason why the poor are poor in real life: they're lazy and have no virtues.
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>>141932231
Why kuroneko is hated wrong?
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>>141936713
Mereces morir junto con el creador de oreimo
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>>141932231
Because she was a fucking idiot
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>>141932231
>chuuni Kirino
Kyousuke wanted the genuine Kirino.

The impeccable Kirino who is best girl, always.
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Kuroneko a shit.
She talks too fancy, I don't understand her speech as clearly as others'.
Also, Kirino best girl in Oreimo
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>>141937188
Kyousuke fucked his sister.
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>>141937714
Is this canon?
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>>141937188
You're just shitposting aren't you?
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>>141937864
It is heavily implied in the books and in the after story Kuroneko and Kirino have their usual arguing fit in which Kuroneko calls Kirino a slut for bragging about her sex life. Kirino then turns to Kyousuke all red and says she never bragged about anything.
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>>141932231
Kyosuke is the absolute worst.
Kuroneko dodged a bullet.
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I STILL dont get the series.

Kuroneko had -won-. Kyosuke is still young, in his formative years. A few dates, a few intimate moments, and he'd be fucking Kuroneko and forgetting all about his sister.

I dont get Kuroneko at all. Did she WANT to win, or what? Who the fuck cares about Kirino's little weird fascination over her brother? That shit will be gone by college.

Her sisters would have had a big brother to play with,Kyosuke would help out a family in need , Manami would have her no-incest need scratched,and everyone would be happy.
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because anime is bourgeois propaganda
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>>141933281
Yes she is poor(ish). She hand makes all of her cosplay.
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>>141938211
Kuroneko was betting on the threesome ending.
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>>141938211
It's kinda dumb, but the gist is that Kuroneko believed that she would have to choose between Kirino and Kyousuke unless they hooked up. Being friendless and chuuni most of her life she decided it was better to keep her close friends than have an intimate relationship with Kyousuke.

I don't mind. I'll take Kyousuke's place and comfort her.
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>>141938211
>>141938470
That's wrong though, she wanted both, a relationship with Kyousuke and friendship with Kirino. She thought she could achieve that by resolving the siblings feelings for each other, specifically by breaking up and getting chosen again as his number 1 and this causing Kirino to accept she isn't going to get an incest ending. It was stupid and it obviously didn't work.
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>>141932231
if winning means keeping the retard mc, then I´m fucking glad she lost.
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>>141938706
Kyousuke is based as fuck.
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>>141932231
She's just a poor girl, nobody loves her.
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>>141932231
She won my heart. I'm sure she'll find her own happiness.
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>>141933252
Underrated post.

/thread
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>>141938615
Instead it just drove him right into Kirino's arms and the Incest end, Glorious.
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>>141933281
Nope. It's never even hinted that she's poor. It's nothing but a meme.
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>>141938881
She's just a poor girl, from a poor family!
Spare her her life from this monstrosity!
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>>141932231
She did win, but then she threw it away like a retard thinking he'd pick her a second time
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>>141932231
Because it's an incest story and even though she's best girl and perfect in all regards, she's not the sister. The game was rigged from the start
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>>141941291
That's implies she didn't fuck up massively. She did and she's a also utterly delusional and kind of a jerk on top.
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>>141937980
>heavily implied
You're just as bad as the writers of the two Oreimo games.
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>>141941863
The after story pretty much confirms it though.
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>>141941863
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>>141942039
This CAN be anything. Let see if author willing to have kuroneko popup on eromanga sensei or something.
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She threw the game! She was winning and then she just quits for the plot contrivance that Kirino was supposed to win.
Ayase then throws herself at Kyousuke in a desperate attempt to backstop this bullshit but it's too late.
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>>141942387
Even if it wasn't then the afterstory confirmed they're doing it.
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>>141942416
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>>141942387
>This CAN be anything
You're shitposting, aren't you? It doesn't get any more obvious in such a series. Fushimi couldn't possibly write an actual sex scene so he did the closest thing he could.
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>>141939546
I'm usually an incestfag, but even I was pissed off by this ending.
Not only did Kuroneko deserve to win, but that shitty half-assed "Eyy, we're dating as siblings but actually not, lol" ending just blew away all the faith I had in this series.
I've rarely been annoyed by a fiction, but man, fuck this anime.
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>>141943027
>Not only did Kuroneko deserve to win
No she didn't, that is as stupid as it gets. The entire series is build around Kyousuke's and Kirino's support for each other and it was hinted from the very beginning that they have feelings for each other. Any other ending would have been retarded.

Which brings me to the second point, the ending itself is decent, they did not break up, or rather they did but got back together again. It was something Fushimi had to do due to censorship or he wouldn't have gotten published.

The anime fucked it up a bit by leaving out a ton of stuff prior to the ending, changing the kiss at the end to be on the cheek and many subs mistranslated a crucial line. Kirino renews the life counseling, which was always about their relationship and now it is about their love for wach other.
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>>141932231
Japanese hate poorfags.
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>>141944301
funny, when their dollar is so unbelievably shit.
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>>141943253
>support for each other
More like Kyousuke's constant bending over backwards for Kirino and getting insulted and attacked in return, after she spent the last 5 years ignoring him and treating him like dirt because he didn't live up to her ridiculous standards. Kirino doesn't deserve shit and it's absurd that he even tolerates her
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>>141945194
You're already so incredibly biased it's useless to try to explain anything. Have fun being assblasted until the end of time.
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>>141932231
Poor people are gross and only good for bullying.
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>>141945448
We posting doujins now?
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>>141945535
That's the best Oreimo doujin. Accurately shows Kirino's character and what would actually happen.
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>>141945535
The funny thing is the first scene could happen while yours is just retarded. No Kirinofag will ever get upset over you posting it. Though it's of course unlikely, they would never let anyone watch and I doubt Kuroneko would cry if she happened to walk in on them.
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>>141936713
>10/10 Model
>Has no Tits
Have you never looked at actual models?
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>show is called "Ore no Imouto"
Gee, I fucking wonder
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>>141945535
>>141945674
>Kuronekofags get butt-rustled when reminded Kirino's banging her brother while Ruri is alone
Ruri's whole appeal is that she's a pathetic fool.
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>>141945535
What the fuck am I looking at exactly?
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>>141945822
Oh I'm sorry for making you mad just by saying the truth.
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>>141945877
The desperation shared by Ruri and her fans bring me nothing but joy.
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>>141946024
Then please keep on being happy with your forced incest ending, it's the only reason why Ruri acted like a fool in the first place.

Only because the plot demanded it.
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>>141946140
There's that desperation.
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>>141945877
>>141946024
>>141946140
>>141946169
How about you both stop shitposting.
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>>141946198
I'll stop.
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>>141946169
Is that the only thing you can come up with?

Arguing with you is pointless.
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>>141946301
>forced incest ending
Bullshit, if you think it was forced you didn't understand anything. On the contrary it would have been stupid if it didn't end with KyousukexKirino.
>only reason why Ruri acted like a fool
She fell for Kyousuke when he projected his feelings for Kirino onto her. After that it were her own delusions that made her act like an idiot. How can you not blame Kuroneko for that? She's a chuuni who made a chuuni plan that didn't work and hurt everyone involved.
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>>141946561
Ruri's plan was to force the siblings to consider each other's feelings and it worked. If she hadn't done that the incest ending wouldn't have happened.
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>>141946912
Oh, you're the "Ruri didn't want to be with Kyousuke, she only wanted him to hook up with Kirino" type of Nekofag, alright. As always the answer is no, you're stupid. She never intended the siblings to get together, she wanted the siblings to resolve their feelings for each other.
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Selling chuuni, moderately used
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>>141947113
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>>141947113
You can keep her, bud.
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Too bad the author is a one trick pony.

Nobody cares about his latest work.
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>>141947038
That was the revised plan after having completed her primary objective. Whether she wanted them to "get together" is debatable but the point still stands that she sacrificed her positions for Kirino's sake, neither of them resented what she did, and the ending was only possible because of her.
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>>141947293
>Nobody cares about his latest work.
It's already got an anime being made.
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>>141933762
>kek
Kill yourself.
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I never understood the 'win/lose' mindset people have of harems

usually the male MC in the harem is a piece of shit who doesn't deserve anyone and almost undeniably the girl who 'wins' would be way better off with someone else anyway. Not only that, but if your girl 'loses', doesn't that just mean she remains pure and doesn't end up with a spineless japanese dude?

the only way I can make sense of it is if people self-insert as the male character but why on earth would you self insert as someone who is so pathetic 99% of the time?
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>>141947318
>she sacrificed her positions for Kirino's sake
No she didn't, she never planned to get rejected by Kyousuke. She thought he would pick her again. And I think the siblings would have gotten together sooner and more smoothly if it wasn't for the Kuroneko romance. She was the main thing holding him back during volumes 6-8. That much is arguable though.
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>>141932231

She lost, HARD.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone lose this hard before.
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Kirino a shit
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>>141947672
>Kirino a best
Fixed that for you.
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>Ruri is so selfless she sacrificed herself
I love how often this is toted as the thing that makes Ruri superior when:

1. The only reason Ruri got a shot in the first place is because Kirino told Kyousuke to consider Ruri
2. Kirino stayed out of their way while they dated even though it hurt her
3. Kirino intended to move to Europe because she felt Kyousuke was delaying his relationship with Ruri for Kirino's sake

Kirino attempted to sacrifice her love which was ~7 years in the making to appease Ruri's petty crush but all Kuronekofags can come up with is how great Ruri was for stepping aside after forcing herself between them.

The reality is neither of their "sacrifices" made a lick of difference because Kyousuke made his own damn decision in the end that wasn't influenced by either of their games.
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>>141947344
>nbr
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>>141936713
>liking the Psycho bitch
>not knowing why incest is wrong
>actually wanting them to fuck and have retarded kids
Levi Strauss is contorting on his grave right now.
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>>141947933
There's nothing wrong with incest and there's everything wrong with Kirino
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>>141948094
>there's nothing wrong with incest
Yeah, there is nothing wrong for a father to alienate his kids into sucking his cock, using of his parental figure to have his way
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>>141948260
There is nothing wrong with Sibling Incest. Are you happy now?
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>>141948260
Sibling incest, then. And before you pull some other bullshit, if they're around the same age and are both fine with it.
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>>141948284
>>141948342
Anon, you could literally start your own country like that.

You fuck your sister, and your kids fuck each other. They will all be ruled by you in the end since you will be the only higher parental figure; the grandpa, the 'Elder one'.

I'm not making this shit up, it's how it happens and why it's banned.
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>>141948260
>>141948284
>>141948342
>>141948609
Get this shit out of here, this is not the general incest thread.
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>>141947476
First destiny record:
>On the top, it said the illustration was named 'The ideal world'.
>It was drawn in manga style – Kuroneko's normal style. Unlike her normal
>illustration, this one didn't use purple and black, and had a warm and gentle feeling.
>Compared to the 'The scream' just now, it was completely different.
>Surrounding the dining table was me and ---
>"Kirino…?"

She didn't originally expect him to pick her again. That's why she was so upset right after she broke up with him. It wasn't until after her first plan succeeded that she changed her objective.

>"I have a newer, clearer wish."
>She opened up the second 'Destiny record' and pointed to the last page.
>It showed another illustration, with the same name 'ideal world'.
>It was the same happy sight at the dinner table before, the only difference
>was that the older me and Kirino – were waiting for Kuroneko to bring out meal.

>>141947742
They both cared about each other. From the start Ruri was thinking of Kirino as the above quote shows. Kirino had good intentions but she was acting shitty towards them while they were dating. If Kirino was honest from the start none of this would have happened.
>neither of their "sacrifices" made a lick of difference
That's very presumptuous. If Ruri hadn't dumped him and forced Kirino's confession, we have every reason to believe they would have stayed together.
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>Kuroneko
>cute
>genuine love
>Has cute imoutos
>sweet and caring personality
>not MC's sister

>Kirino
>spoiled
>bitch
>selfish
>boring design
>MC's br sister

This shouldn't even be a contest. Kirinofags are just fucked in the head.
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>>141948843
>She didn't originally expect him to pick her again.
That's why she went pale, immediately backpedalled and eventually fainted after she realised Kyousuke wouldn't choose her again, right?

What the fuck are you talking about, Kirino even gave Kuroneko dating advice during that time and Kuroneko knew about her feelings. If anything Ruri acted shitty towards Kirino, same thing with her suddenly breaking up and completely shitting on his on her feelings.
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>>141939170

She'll have her head in the clouds while living in a cardboard box.
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>>141949007
>after she realised
She knew what was coming from the start, Kyousuke hadn't even said anything, she had a panic attack because she couldn't bear to hear it said. If she expected him to take her back immediately then why is she not featured in her 'ideal world'

It's just like how kirino gave her advice and encouraged her but then acted jealous when she actually saw them together
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>>141948843
>If Ruri hadn't dumped him and forced Kirino's confession, we have every reason to believe they would have stayed together.
That's very presumptuous. If Ruri wouldn't have dated him in the first place and instead talked to Kirino and Kyousuke about their feelings, we have every reason to believe things would've happened the same way with significantly less grief.
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>>141949417
Exactly, she panicked because it wasn't what she had expected. In her original drawing she is sitting at a table together with the siblings, all 3 of them happily together. It doesn't show the siblings being together and it doesn't show Kyousuke being with her. After that she spent another 3 volumes trying to get him back. I summarized it earlier this thread >>141938615.

Your last line from the earlier post is also pure speculation, maybe Kyousuke would have broken up on his own after realizing it's hurting Kirino. Or maybe after Kirino's planned confession. We just don't know and it's tiresome to talk about these huge what-if scenarios.
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>>141949692
>In her original drawing she is sitting at a table together with the siblings
No she's not. I gave the quote in an earlier post >>141948843 and again as i said, if she expected him to take her back she wouldn't have been so upset after initially breaking up with him, as shown in vol 9. Only after forcing kirino's confession did she resolve to keep competing.
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>>141951731
>if she expected him to take her back she wouldn't have been so upset after initially breaking up with him
That doesn't make sense. If she expected it she wouldn't panic. She wouldn't even ask if he would choose her again. If what you said was true Kuroneko would be a total piece of shit who willingly manipulated Kyousuke and Kirino, shit on them and then continued to interfere in their relationship. It also doesn't make sense to begin with, after Kyousuke brought Kirino back from America it would have been the perfect time for them to deepen their relationship but Kuroneko was in the way, it just doesn't make sense that she responded to Kyousukes advances while Kirino was away in order to get the siblings together. She literally did the opposite.
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>>141952166
Why else would she be upset in that case? The fact she expected his answer doesn't mean it wasn't still painful and stressful for her. She asked the question because the whole point was to get Kyousuke to make the decision she expected him to. She aimed to bring the siblings together and that's exactly what she achieved.
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>>141952739
>Why else would she be upset in that case?
Obviously because she didn't expect it. She always wanted to get chosen. Again, why else would she even ask him to decide and then backpedall even after Kirino's confession?
And one more time, it is complete nonsense that she initially wanted Kyousuke and Kirino to get together, she did exactly the opposite. She got between the siblings for the longest time. Kyousuke basically admitted his love when he flew to America but Kirino couldn't answer it because Kuroneko was in the way. Just think about it, why the hell would Ruri make Kyousuke fall in love with him while Kirino was away? I've read this a few times now and it was always completely delusional. This whole "Yeah, she totally did it for them but changed her mind midway through" thing is just stupid.
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Kirino's title is in the title.
It's a light novel about imoutos, not onee sans.
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>>141952938
No I'm talking about directly after she broke up with him, before they met at the sping town. Directly after the summer festival, she was devastated, hinata describes her crying in the dark after she got home. If she expected him to take her back, she would have no reason to be upset at that point.

It was her plan, but she panicked at the final step because executing it was too stressful for her. The whole time she was fighting her own feelings.
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>>141947113
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>>141945771
Better question is
have you ever seen Japanese pop models?
or voice actresses?
You are a retard.
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>>141953376
That all makes sense. She was in love with him but had to break up without explanation and leave the town for a few days to follow her plan. If that doesn't shake you emotionally you are cold as ice.

What you are saying makes no sense. Firstly how she went for him and responded to his advances while Kirino was away is literally the worst thing she could have done if she intended to bring them together. Then she would have no reason to be devastated after breaking up with him, as you said she didn't want to be with him anyway. And finally she would have no reason to be shocked after not being chosen again. You are trying to paint her as some kind of hero who selflessly sacrificed herself for the sake of her friends which is just stupid.
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>>141953478
Fuck off. Don't bother shitposting anonymously either.
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>>141953725
So pomf is the new dutchguy? or what?
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>>141953785
Nobody can be that bad and retarded. But he, Dutch, Mordin and a few other idiots used to, and probably still are, shitposting here without their trips sometimes.
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>>141953636
No, she did want to be with him, but she planned to step down for Kirino despite her feelings. And she wasn't shocked, she panicked. If you planned to tip a bucket of spiders over your head you would probably still freak out when you actually did it, even though you knew what was coming. She literally did sacrifice herself for the sake of her friends. Kirino was acting intolerably jealous towards both neko and manami even before they started dating, the extreme of that being Kirino's whole ridiculous "fake boyfriend" stunt, Ruri aimed to remedy that. I find it absurd that you are claiming otherwise considering it's a central plot point.
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>>141953953
> I find it absurd that you are claiming otherwise
Funny coming from one of the 2 only guys who have ever said this in more than 3 years. So she planned to step down but then miraculously found the spirit to continuously pursue her love for another 3 volumes. Let me guess, it makes her even more tragic since she cemented her own loss but still struggled against it. It's really funny how far you people go to excuse everything Kuroneko ever did.

About your Kirino bashing, as the other anon said earlier she tried to get rid of her, far bigger and older, love a lot more often and it doesn't really matter anyway. When did she act "intolerably jealous" towards Ruri and Kyousuke when they were datin? The fake boyfriend thing was shitty but it was over after a few hours compared to Kuroneko playing with the siblings feelings for months according to your, once again stupid, theory.
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Kirino is a miracle of the universe.
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Is the thread on autosage or are you people saging?
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>>141954212
>So she planned to step down but then miraculously found the spirit to continuously pursue her love for another 3 volumes. Let me guess, it makes her even more tragic since she cemented her own loss but still struggled against it.
Pretty much

>"Sorry. I know that we agreed to 'not talk about it', however, I understand without you having to say anything --- then, what about something more recent? --- When I came over to your brother's room to play, why did you have such a painful expression on your face before running away?"
>"Painful expression ---"
">You did have one."
>"…"
>"Why is it that after I started dating your brother you always seemed to be in pain?"
>"Seemed to be in pain --- no I didn't."
>"If you really had accepted our relationship, you wouldn't be showing that kind of expression right now – I really can't stand you right now."

But it's her attitude before they started dating that motivated Ruri. She covers pretty much all the detail in her confrontation with Kirino in vol8. This whole time you still haven't addressed the points I originally made in >>141948843 - the pictures in her destiny record and her reaction after dumping him would make absolutely no sense if that wasn't her motive.
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>>141954894
Gee, I don't know
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>>141954212
Neko initially had no plans to keep on after dropping him. But that's as far as she went for Kirino. It's only after Kirino goes and helps them out that she starts pursuing him full on without caring for anyone else and completely aware that she had lost. She's still a massive cunt.

It's tragic in the same way for Ayase. They're pretty much mirrored in that aspect. And Ayase actually explains their situation better in her rejection.

>>141954926
Kirino did nothing wrong by distancing herself from them. That's pretty much all she did during this time. This was a painful experience for her and it was made worse by Kuroneko herself.

I'm actually surprised that Kirino didn't outright destroy the relationship within 5 minutes of Kuroneko pulling a cunt move. Even more surprising is that they all somehow stayed friends.
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>>141954926
Are you shitting on Kirino because she is holding her feelings back so Ruri can have a good time? Those lines just show how it hurts Kirino and how Kyousuke can't stand her being unhappy. It literally shows the opposite of what you are claiming. Kirino loves him and he loves her but Kuroneko is between them.

Wait, did you not even read my posts? That would explain a lot actually >>141953636. You are trying to warp everything towards your picture of the heroic Kuroneko, which is just retarded.

Let's pretend everything you said was right. She knew about the siblings feelings for each other, planned to get them together, fell in love with him and made him fall in love with her while Kirino was absent, hurt Kirino a ton with her relationship and was shitty enough to even ask her for advice, dropped Kyousuke like a piece of shit, completely trampling on him and Kirino, got Kirino to confess and then suddenly decided "Fuck it, I'll actually not give up" and continued to be a nuisance to the siblings for 3 more volumes, pathetically trying to get him back while knowing it won't happen. Yeah, sounds like a real compassionate girl.
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>>141955344
Kuroneko wanted Kirino to chase after her though, she wanted to get her to say that she can't stand Kyousuke being with another girl and that she wants to be his most important person. It was actually another cunty move, she drops her boyfriend and when he finally shows up depressed and unable to speak for himself Ruri just talks about Kirino and doesn't even apologize.
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>>141955354
>Let's pretend everything you said was right. She knew about the siblings feelings for each other, planned to get them together, fell in love with him and made him fall in love with her while Kirino was absent, hurt Kirino a ton with her relationship and was shitty enough to even ask her for advice, dropped Kyousuke like a piece of shit, completely trampling on him and Kirino, got Kirino to confess and then suddenly decided "Fuck it, I'll actually not give up" and continued to be a nuisance to the siblings for 3 more volumes, pathetically trying to get him back while knowing it won't happen. Yeah, sounds like a real compassionate girl.

Literally worse than Manami.
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The pain never really ends, does it?
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>>141955487
Not until you kill yourself.
>>>/r9k/
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>>141955487
Fuck off cancer.
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>>141932231
Does that have a name? Poordere?
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>>141955436
I hate that entire section.
Kuroneko wanted to do well but she ended up hurting both Kirino and Kyousuke tremendously. She went on planning pretty much everything and all she did was hurt them. It's they who actually ended up fixing the entire cluster fuck for the better and I honestly think it would have been fine had Kuroneko not intervene.
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>>141936713
>Now Kyousuke can fuck a 10/10 model instead of a stupid chuuni twig
He could've had both if he wanted to, Kuroneko would've been fine with it
same goes for Kirino's supermodel friend too

Hell in general Kyousuke is just sorta shit really. People get so mad about Kirino that people don't bother formally acknowledging that I guess.
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>>141955354
No, you asked for examples of her jealousy while they were dating so I gave you one. That was Ruri's reaction not Kyousuke's. At this point Kyousuke wasn't aware of Kirino's feelings, which is why Ruri forced her to confess them. As I said it was more her attitude and actions before they were dating which influenced Ruri.

Yes I read your post and you still didn't address my points. Why would she be upset after dumping him if she expected him to take her back? Why is her first "ideal world" picture Kyousuke and Kirino together and Ruri is not pictured?

Kirino was hurting before they started dating. Kyousuke was constantly being mistreated by Kirino. She decided to keep competing afterwards only after having destroyed every chance she initially had. I'm not saying that her actions were optimal and I can't deny that it caused them some grief but in the end she achieved her goal: the siblings understood and accepted each other's feelings. I won't deny that her methods were extreme, but my original point was only that to begin with she was thinking only of the siblings and what she thought was best for them. And it's not like Kirino was never shitty to either of them, to Kyousuke especially.
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>>141955614
I still don't think she had the intention of getting the siblings together. Everything she did in volume 5 was the total opposite of that. All she did was alienate the siblings after Kyousuke told Kirino he would die without her while crying. Kuroneko said she did is so Kirino would stop lying to herself, but Ruri is the reason Kirino had to lie in the first place.


>"… One of my friends has a problem… If she got a boyfriend… how many dates would be appropriate before allowing him to take her body?"


>"It was clearly about you! I even lent you a lover's guide book – 'The spirit of love special edition – How to hold hands on your first date',
Fuck Kuroneko.
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>>141955994
Kuroneko wouldn't have been fine with it
Ayase probably would though, yes
everyone forgives Kyousuke being awful because he's the dull self-insert character
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>>141956341
>I still don't think she had the intention of getting the siblings together.
I highly doubt anyone actually thinks that. She did not want the siblings to fuck. At most she wanted them to fix things.

That was the main goal.

The side goal was trying to get him to fall in love with her before dropping him to get them to fix things (main goal). She ended up failing and succeeding at the same time.

>Fuck Kuroneko.
That shit pisses me off. It's absolutely disgusting.
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>>141955994
>>141956472
Both would be for it because they're desperate sluts. But Kyousuke would never do that shit because he loves his imouto and his imouto would never approve of such a situation.

Besides, Ayase and Kuroneko belong together.
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>people are still salty that a sister wins in a series based around incest
For fucks sake /a/
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>>141932231
>Why doesn't poor girl win?
because she's too "real". Japanese Otaku don't like people who remind them that there is reality somewhere. Some girl who sews clothing and toys for her siblings because her family is a bunch of poorfags is too "real" for them. They'd rather the beautiful bitchy tsundere sister. It's pure escapism.
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>>141956753
>she's too "real"
>Kuroneko
Are you insane? She's the definition of pandering.
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>>141956341
In vol5 she hadn't made her plan yet. In vol5 she fell in love with him. It wasn't until vol8 that she wrote her destiny record and put it into action. For 3 volumes after Kirino returned from america, Kirino became increasingly jealous of neko even though they weren't dating, which is what drove neko to do what she did.

You assholes always act like Kirino's feelings are the only ones that matter and anyone who doesn't bend over backwards for her is evil. Kirino was shitty too.
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>>141956306
>No, you asked for examples of her jealousy while they were dating so I gave you one. That was Ruri's reaction not Kyousuke's.
That is Kuroneko describing Kirino. She was jealous but she didn't show it. You claimed she acted "intolerably jealous".

>Why would she be upset after dumping him if she expected him to take her back?
>She was in love with him but had to break up without explanation and leave the town for a few days to follow her plan. If that doesn't shake you emotionally you are cold as ice.

Why does her first picture only have the siblings? I need to think about that a bit, I initially thought it was the one with all 3 of them. That's the small inconsistency in my posts, yours is that she changed her mind out of the blue, going against everything you claimed she planned and there is no explanation for that. She went through all of that, broke up with her love, and then she can't accept it?

She went from this:
>"I dated senpai to – fulfill another wish. To fully realize my dream, we had many 'ceremonies' together, and his current state is the result of all that."
to this in a matter of minutes:
>"… Hm… Huh… Don't think that you've won just yet… I knew that it would turn out this way… It was only a detour on the road to my inevitable victory… just like my destiny record predicted…"
>"… Don't be mistaken… I didn't run away… It was a tactical retreat.Remember that well…"
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>>141956753
You know, anime is in fact full of escapism but you people who blame the otaku's taste for everything almost never get any of it right.

That doesn't stop you from playing armchair psychologist though.
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>>141956862
>She went through all of that, broke up with her love, and then she can't accept it?
Yes exactly. She completed her initial objective but then couldn't bear to face the outcome.
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>>141956844
It was only 2 volumes. Kirino stopped completely after volume 7.

That said, Kirino had come back only due to Kyousuke's line

>"I can't live without you."

Yeah, things weren't going well for her but it wasn't like her to just return. The only reason she did return and end her dream was for Kyousuke. It was under the impression that she was needed and loved by him. An impression that Kirino thought was absolute crap since he seemed totally fine after she returned. She got jealous and annoyed by that. Kuroneko made herself a target of that jealousy willingly.
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>>141956844
>In vol5 she hadn't made her plan yet. In vol5 she fell in love with him. It wasn't until vol8 that she wrote her destiny record and put it into action
Those are just convenient assumptions on your part. So she started it in volume 5 but didn't have a plan yet? You're just bending the story to your liking, everything Ruri did was perfect and noble.

>For 3 volumes after Kirino returned from america, Kirino became increasingly jealous of neko even though they weren't dating
Yeah, because she knows that Kyousuke and Kuroneko came a lot closer so she felt obliged to stay out of the way. As I said, Ruri herself is the main reason Kirino had to lie to hersef during that time.

>anyone who doesn't bend over backwards for her is evil. Kirino was shitty too.
Again, you're one of the literally only 2 people to ever suggest it was that way. No Kuronekofag every claimed that until this year. This series has been discussed from heaven to hell and back and nobody came up with your delusions. Nobody here is claiming Kirino wasn't shitty but you are claiming Kuroneko is a saint who did nothing wrong.
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>>141956844
>Kirino's feelings are the only ones that matter and anyone who doesn't bend over backwards for her is evil
Anyone who gets between an imouto and her onii-chan is the worst. No fucking exceptions.
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>>141957065
So that is the core of your delusion. She couldn't bear it so she changed her mind and chased her dead dream that wasn't even planned.
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>>141957182
I can partially agree with him there. It's pretty much Ayase's stance on it as well.

>"Before that, it seemed like I was mistaken. My favorite Kirino's Onii-san seemed very kind... if I married him, Kirino could be my sister... I once had that embarrassing fantasy."
>Her cheeks slowly reddened with each memory.
>"My fantasy slowly got stronger and stronger... Then Onii-san shattered it many times...Then each time I built a new dream on that new foundation."

But where I disagree is in saying that the act was selfless and good. It wasn't. At all. Neko deserved the pain and suffering she got and continues to get. Fuck her.
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>>141957382
It makes sense with Ayase though, she deluded herself so she could stay friends with Kirino. She had to keep that up until she could face reality. Then she also had to acknowledge that Kyousuke is a really good guy who helped her a lot and who she obviously likes. It's funny to think her first thought was "If I marry him I can be Kirino's sister", she really is obsessed with Kirino. With Kuroneko that makes no sense at all though. Anyway I'm really tired of this and it's late here so you go and tell >>141956844 that Kuroneko did not selflessly plan to get the siblings together at cost of her own love.
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>>141957597
That's the thing.

Ayase deluded herself for her relationship with Kirino.
Kuroneko's just deluded.

They're both retarded and thought they could win.
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>>141957704
Yeah but not deluded in the way that guy wants it to be.
Allegedly she knew about the siblings feelings, fell in love with him and got him interested in her while Kirino was away, then planned to get the siblings together, had Kirino stay in the background, hurt her a lot by dating him and having the guts to ask when it's ok to start fucking, dropped him and shit on the siblings feelings all to make Kirino confess her feelings and then she changed her mind and pursued Kyousuke anyway, further shitting on Kyousuke's and Kirino's building relationship.
Makes perfect sense. I'm out, good night.
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>>141957067
And Kyousuke only went to Kirino because Ruri persuaded him to.

>>141957089
>So she started it in volume 5 but didn't have a plan yet?
She fell in love in vol5, she didn't write her destiny record until vol8. I'm not claiming anything fantastic here, that's just literally how the story went. If you want to add anything to her motives there it would be pure headcanon.

Again, they weren't dating or anything, if Kirino felt that she had to hide her feelings, that's on her, it's not Ruri's fault that she exists.

And I don't give a fuck about what previous arguments you've had.

>>141957107
This is what I'm talking about. I swear you cunts only care about your fetish and don't give a shit about any of the other characters.

>>141957182
That was exactly the point I've been making from the start. I can't believe it's taken this long for you to get it through your dense skull.

>>141957382
You can just fuck off

Nobody in the series is perfect and selfless, but Ruri was always thinking of the sibling's feelings. I'm not claiming anything beyond that. I need to sleep. Get cancer
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>>141957880
That's more or less it.

I don't think she really did much until after volume 5 or close to the end of it. She didn't plan to advertise herself as a Kirino alternative, that just happened. That said, she may have planned to confess at the end of volume 5, but probably knew that she was going to get either rejected or ignored since Kyousuke didn't give two shits about anything but Kirino right then and there.

As for the initial plan. I think it was more like

>Step 1: Date him.
>Step 2: Force Kirino to do something.
>Step 3: Do everything you can to make him fall for you.
>Step 4: Drop him.
>Step 5: Just fucking hope things turn out fine.


It's fucking idiotic and that's exactly the reason like 1-2 characters got after her. The selfish part is in step 3. It doesn't look that way but it's actually completely unnecesary for her selfless plan. It's pretty much insurance for the outcome in Step 5.

Too bad whoring herself out didn't work against an honorable and loyal siscon.
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>>141959021
I'm glad Kyousuke and Kirino found each other.
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>>141959168
It was meant to be. Nothing can stop true love.

I don't have a picture of just the bottom part with the red string of fate but this will do.
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>tfw you will never tell ruri to go home so you can cum inside your sister
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>>141959728
And then she just stays there and watches?

I'm so glad Kirino won. I thank our lord and savior Tsukasa Fushimi every day and hope other authors follow his example.
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