Sailor Moon Crystal

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>It's still not out yet on CR for some reason
I guess HS release most likely delayed again

>>141902261
Looks like it's out now. CR is delayed 10 minutes today.

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I just hope it didn't filled with QUALITY like what showed in preview from last week episode

>>141902946
It's out on CR now. I just finished it, there's no quality from what i've seen.
Great episode though. We're finally getting to the meat and potatoes of the arc

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well, that's it, that's our show. Chibiusa's dead. Goodnight.

>>141903830
Say what ?!

> [CR] Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Crystal Season III - 08 [720p].mkv

>>141903882
Eyes went dead, and she stopped breathing after her crystal got ripped out of her

Hotaru's jammies and her suffering are boner inducing

>>141904480
Are you me ?

I just want to said that.

>>141902007
>Shitty OP/ED lyrics translation
>Have to fix script in various places
Good thing I don't have to put up with bad scripts.

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>>141903830
rest in piece Chibiusa ;_;
You were the cutest loli to ever grace our screen

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>>141903830
Iggy Dead?!

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>>141905010
yeah ;_;
Saturn killed her

>>141905042
no, mistress 9 did.

The music this episode was so good.

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I never read the manga, so I wasn't expecting mistress 9 to pop up that quickly.
Scared the shit out of me

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>>141905165
>suddenly Mistress 9

>>141904759
>Are you me ?
>I just want to said that.

More proof females have far better fanservice sense on girls than males will ever have

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Lookin' kinda beefy there, Usagi.

>>141905712
well no duh, she's turning in that animation so of course it'll look a bit weird

So thats how Edgy Hotaru is born.

And in the preview, it looks like Rei is about to get raped.

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And who is this "patrons" supposed to be ?

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>>141905796
Why evil Hotaru looking so sexy ?

>>141906718
not too sure. Maybe they meant their parents inheritance, or the company's that sponsor Haruka and Michiru to do their shit

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>>141904480
Oww yeah.

1/3

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>>141906838
2/3

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>>141906982
3/3

>>141906718
Silver Millennium Ministry of Finance

>>141907040
>>141906982
>>141906838
>>141906762
Why is Hotaru/Saturn so yummy?

>>141906718
sugar mommies?

Next Monday can't come soon enough

Do we know if they're going to adapt the fourth arc right after this? I don't want to wait several months/a year to see Fish Eye.

>>141908464
Most likely. Looks like they'll be doing all 5 story arcs

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>>141908464
I hope they do it right after like they did with Black Moon.

Then I hope they do Stars and Sailor V the same way.

>>141908464
Let's wait until the blu-ray sales report come in, if it sells like hotcake then we surely gonna get 4th season.

(And remember, considering 3rd season still got greenlit despite how wrecked Crystal S1 & S2....4th season is very likely to happen.)

>>141906718
THE OUTER SENSHI PLEASE OLD MEN FOR MONEY

>>141908807
N-Noooo!!, Haruka don't use your Uranus power!!!!

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>>141908807
Exactly what I had in my mind when I'm seeing Michiru's being upset of Haruka's word.

>>141908807
It can also be an old madame with a lot of fortune.

(Remember they are lesbian.)

>>141908689
Ha ha, we are talking Sailor Moon here, not some random seasonal generic LN adaptation, of course they will go all the way, in particular after how goddamn good S has been so far, holy shit I am Psyched for Stars

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>>141909967
as long as they keep the director we have now, i'll be more than hyped for the last 2 arcs.
I need to see my baby, Fisheye, revamped.

>>141909967
They bring back Galaxia VA to sing the 2nd ver. Of the opening song, it should have been some huge hint there.

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>>141909124
Anon what is that shitty res.

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>>141910294
I really want to see Sailor Iron Mouse.

>>141910294
I'm surprised Chiaki Kon made this work

>>141908464
Fish Eye will last like, one episode and won't be voiced by Akira Ishida

>>141911418
Good taste

>>141908464
Fish Eye would be a one and done jobber just like all the other minions in the manga.

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>>141912031
I think the only thing that needed fixing for crystal was the horrendous animation, and the pacing.
She's not exactly god tier or anything, but she earned my respect for fixing this show and making it fun to watch when it seemed to be going down the gutter.

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>>141911418
Another favorite villain of mines.
You have good taste

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>>141902261
>mai waifu from childhood is returning
>the QUALITY demons of the past have been banished
>updated saturn transformation imminent
What a time to be alive.

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>>141912348
I'll really miss Ishida's voicing of him

I loved the original anime version of Fisheye, and the musical as well. I wonder if that was Ikuhara's idea to do Fisheye like that.

>>141912492
It wasn't just the animation. The new director admitted that she was a fan of the original anime and you can see that. I hate to sound pretentious but the old director didn't manage to capture the spirit of the old anime.

My guess is that he wasn't too familiar with the 90s anime and because of his work on Precure he didn't want too much of an overlap with it and tried to give the show more of a focus on romance and a more serious vibe to further diverge it from Precure. The problem is that Sailor Moon's plot and romance is nothing to write home about, especially in the first two arcs.

Then there's just the plain bad writing and oversight. Never mind the embarrassment that was the whole Four Generals "arc", a scene from the manga would sometimes be changed but because they forgot to accommodate for that change later on, you'd be left wondering what's going on i.e: Usagi not being rendered crazy looking for the Silver Crystal yet still collapsing from apparent shoujo exhaustion as a result of that later on in the episode.

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daily reminder that this happened

>>141915138
Fucking CR catering to special snowflake "genderfluid" tumblrinas. I bet they knew exactly what they were doing here.

>>141914462
Yeah you can tell the new director is putting passion into what she's doing compared to the old one.
As a sailor moon fan, its easy to spot another one and she definitely seems like a genuine fan of the series. You can tell she likes all versions of the story and tried to incorporate it into this new season and it works out very well.
And yes I agree, the romance in the first two arcs do get grating after a while, and it was pretty awful that they tried to put so much emphasis on it that they forgot the reason people enjoyed sailor moon, which was for the friendships between the characters, and their struggles with growing and adapting to their responsibilities.

And oh god, that Shittenou/Senshi romance plot they did was so badly written and all around awful. It's the reason I dropped out of the first two seasons of crystal. I'd much prefer them dying off like they did in the manga, no matter how much I love Zoisite.

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oops.
Looks like they used the wrong hair color for Neo Queen Serenity
I don't blame them, it's hard for me to remember that her hair was silver in the manga, too. Especially since i'm so used to the blonde hair in the original anime..

>>141915138
I'm still disgusted.

>>141902007
People still watch this?

>>141915549
It is legit good now

>>141915521
I was trying to figure out why it was blonde in that scene when they've used the silver hair before

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>>141915549
Yeah
And thankfully it's a good show, now.

>>141915521
>>141915686
>I was trying to figure out why it was blonde in that scene when they've used the silver hair before
I don't think Chiaki gives any fucks to keep things consistent with previous Crystal seasons.

>>141914462
The only part I agree with you is that the previous director messed up by trying to hard to make Crystal not like Precure, which is bad because Sailor Moon is a precursor to Precure. And by focusing on avoiding being like Precure he failed to capture the very spirit of Sailor Moon.

To make matters worse he also wanted to avoid being like the '99 series which just made things worse since Ikuhara had a good understanding of the essence of the manga. So we were left with a soulless adaptation that just didn't feel like the Sailor Moon manga it was supposed to adhere to.

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>>141915862
>good
>no sexy Chibiusa legs
Still not convinced.

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>>141916159
I agree with this.
When I was watching Crystal seasons 1 and 2, it didn't feel like I was watching Sailor Moon. It felt like I was watching a soulless youtube animation with the professional voice actors attached to it.
It lacked so much spirit and energy to it that made the franchise great to begin with.
It's shocking what putting passion into something does to a project, though.

This episode looked a bit wonky, but the preview for next episode looks awesome. I can't wait.

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>>141916216
but anon...
non slutty, pure lolis are the best kind..

>senshi can fly to buildings
I didn't know they could do this.

>>141916627
In the manga they could do this.
I don't know why they kept it out in the 90's anime..

>>141916566
Then why are they nude in the OP?

>>141916839
Nudity doesn't mean it's sexual, you fucking pervert
>:(

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>>141916919
>Nudity doesn't mean it's sexual
Where do you think we are?

>>141916627
The senshi in the manga were ridiculously powerful.

Chibiusa running towards Hotaru's was really well done.

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>>141917369
I was shocked at how well done that scene was, too.
I'm not used to seeing Chibi Moon being able to do things on her own, like that.

>>141916566
It pains me to see how prude they have become about Chibiusa, so no, I'm not fine with that.
Also that long skirt is ugly as hell.

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>muh dick

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needs more best senshi

>>141915521
Damn, silver hair were much better.

>>141906838
>>141906982
>>141907040
my dick

Master Pharaoh 90 knows what he's doin

why does anyone like Hotaru

>>141915521
I guess it will be 'fixed' in the BD? Didn't mind her design in S2, it made her look a bit more mature

>>141923576
>Has the goth appearance down to a T
>Has a pretty great back story
>She's a cute magical girl, too
Oh gee, I wonder.

>>141923900
Oh it's a goth loli thing and not a good taste thing.

I never cared for Hotaru. Minako will always be my favorite.

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>>141924042
ok?
good for you guys, then.

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>>141924429

>>141924996
>>141924429
Minako is great except for the whole 'wanting to be raped gently' thing.

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>>141924429
That's because she's the best.

>>141925386
She wants to put up a resistance because resistance makes the guy's penis harder, and that benefits her in the end.

>>141923900
>>She's a cute cyborg magical girl, too

fixed

>>141916335
Even the voice actors feel soulless in S1 & S2.

While her original VA Kotono Mitsuishi voiced Usagi again, I didn't feel her spirit in the S1 & S2.

Yet in S3 I got the vibe of classic anime Usagi again, it might be because her voice doesn't feel forced as 14 years old girl now as S3 Usagi is more cheerful than in S1 & S2

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>>141923270
Crystal's Hotaru just too seducing.

>>141926299
Kotono is clearly happy that S3 doesn't suck major balls compared to the halfassed first two seasons.

>>141917899
She looks amazing!

>>141917899
Sometimes, the style just looks eerily close to the original anime, when they're not doing closeups on the faces, anyway.

Chibiusa a shit A SHIT

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I just finished all of Super S for the first time.
Why do so many SM fans hate that season? I thought it was pretty solid, sure there was a lot of filler, but honestly it was fun to watch.
There wasn't as much Chibiusa stuff in this season that people were complaining about all the time.

>>141926184

which is what Mercury was originally supposed to be
>she finally got to have her way and editor-kun couldn't tell her no

>>141917899

More than 20 years later and Sailor Saturn is still the best looking mahou shoujo ever created.

She's absolutely beautiful.

>>141929779
People seem to hate it for diverging from the manga a bit too much. There's the weird romance between the horse and ChibiUsa, even the horse is actually a boy. Then there was the lack of the outer senshi, which I think disappointed a lot of people, especially since their departure was a bit half assed.

The villains were nice though, and the monster of the day were fun. I really didn't mind them much unlike other seasons.

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>>141930044
Saturn is fucking gorgeous. I love her.

>>141930056
I see. I've heard about how the amazoness quartet were supposed to be sailor senshi in the manga, so I can see how that'd upset people.
Honestly I thought Helios/Chibiusa was kindof cute to watch.
But yeah, i'm starting Stars now, sad that i'll be done with the 90's anime soon, and it's a sin that they kept the outer senshi out until this season started.

>>141929706
I used to be like you.
Until SMC season 3.

>>141930534
This.

It's amazing how so many things this third season did right.

Even improving Chibiusa.

I am stunned at how all this was possible. Hotaru and Sailor Saturn look better than ever before as well. Same for Mistress 9.

What dark magic did Toei used to achieve all of this?

>>141930056
>Then there was the lack of the outer senshi, which I think disappointed a lot of people, especially since their departure was a bit half assed.

Which is SO odd considering Ikuhara would never shaft the lesbians out of the picture

>>141930364
>But yeah, i'm starting Stars now

Get ready for Galaxia!

>>141930922
They sacrificed a good OST.

>>141923576
She's the best girl.

Since 1994.

It's a shame they won't be redoing the first 2 seasons in this glorious fashion.

>>141931295
Just forget they ever existed.

This arc is where the story really started to get good anyway.

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>>141931295
>>141931329

>>141931565
Silence Glaive this.

>>141931039
Fuck this. The OST is so lame. Not signature music for Uranus and Neptune is a crime.

>>141929831
Well that certainly explains a lot about her "personality".

>>141931858
But everything else is so good.

Can't we just overlook this small aspect?

>>141931869
It's funny how Sailor Moon invented both Rei and the Death&Rebirth concept in Anime before Evangelion and only a few people realize it.

>>141931858
All we really need is for some dedicated soul to edit in the old music

Will we get a Michiru violin piece CD this time around? I fucking hope so.

>>141931921
Asuka and Rei are taken from Brave Raideen.

>>141931989
IMAGINE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcoDCPosWtA

>>141931625
its funny
it feels like that's what really happened.
Saturn had enough of Toei's shit and destroyed the last animation team so the reborn SMC is great

>>141932115
Beautiful.

What's weird is that their current transformation music isn't even transformation music. It's not even general attack music. It's almost like music I would imagine being played maybe with a magical item appearing at best.

I wonder who animated Super Sailor Moon's transformation. If an animation director had fixed up more of the frames, it would have looked perfect.

>>141932115
I hope someone does this for the Saturn henshin.

>>141932236
It all just proves once more that Saturn is the best Sailor Senshi.

>>141930922
Easy, they just had to sacrifice the budget of Pretty Cure and Dragon ball Super.

>>141933694
>Super
Good. That show is a piece of turd anyway. It even scrapped the whole Mai and Trunks thing that was in the movie.

>>141933694
They really hit PreCure hard, but I guess it did worth it in the end.

>>141932428
I must say the transformation to Super Sailor Moon animation is kinda disappointing.

It wasn't bad, it's just it feels kinda descent.

For all these years, I still don't get why Uranus and Neptune treat Usagi like shit.

>>141936659
In Sailor Moon S, you mean ?

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>>141936659
>Uranus and Neptune treat Usagi like shit
Literally what.

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>>141934491
>Mai and Trunks shipping
I will never understand why people want this so bad.I also will never understand why the art for Mai changed so much.Drawing her eyes like Chi-Chi's or Pan's completely black losing the blue eye color,and the unique sexy-seducing shape.What the fuck was Toei thinking?

>>141930364
I think the hate also comes from the fact that the Dream Arc and Stars arcs were the best arcs in the manga.

>>141906718
Hoes before gays

>>141937026
That's because she and the Pilaf gang turned younger from a wish granted by the dragon balls, ya dip.

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>>141940162
Turning into a child doesn't change your eye color from blue to pitch black,knob-head.I can see the shape being a bit different because she's a kid again,but the eye color,no.I haven't seen one character[from any anime]have such a major eye color change like that,unless it's really shit editing.Just look at how they changed Ikuko mama's hair color[eye color also,iirc],and Neo Queen Serenity's hair color.But it's expected of Toei to always fuck up.

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>>141930364
>>141938592
Stars is the best in both the anime and the manga.

>>141942066
Agree.

The lack of Mamoru and Chibiusa make the story somewhat enjoyable.

>>141916627
They're a lot more powerful in the manga.

It's kind of ridiculous how much more powerful they are. No getting kicked around or tied up by the daily Daimon this time around.

>>141926299
Lack of good direction will make even the best voice actors sound bad

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>>141943501
Ceres is my waifu

>>141943501
Can't wait to see them done in new Crystal style.

Also, they should get a transformation sequences now, since they end up as sailor scouts in manga.

>>141921132

Every character in this show looks infinitely better without lipstick.

>>141931039
It's a shame that Takanashi is making no attempt whatsoever to honor the original's OST. Not even for a few select tracks. I actually really like Sailor Moon's transformation themes. The first season's and the new one but that's really it. The music whenever Kaorinite talks to the Witches 5/Pharaoh 90 is pretty decent but just about every other track is literally background music.

>>141944418
The old composer for the original anime died, so we'll never get our Charlie's Angels theme-inspired music ever again.

>>141944610
Is it impossible for them to re-use the old OST?

>>141944831
Don't think it'd be any kind of real issue unless it was contract agency or licensing work of some kind. Otherwise I just think they don't want to reuse it and it's as simple as that. For shame, because the music is exactly what got me into the series in the first place.

>listening to midi files of Sailor Moon music in the 90s downloaded on a dialup connection
Those were the days.

post moar Hotaru

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>>141915138
What did she actually say?

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>>141945296
Rest of the screencaps that I got from yesterday's episode.

(And I usually only take Usagi moments)
1/3

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>>141945578
2/3

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>>141945616
3/3

>>141944913
>listening to midi files of Sailor Moon music in the 90s downloaded on a dialup connection
Oh memories.

>>141945576
If I'm not mistaken, in manga she actually said that Uranus is a woman warrior with a strength of a man.

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>>141945296

>>141915138
>>141945824
No moonruner, but she says "Uranus wa otoko de mo ari onna de mo aru" or something, sounds like the subs are correct unless it's some context thingy. I guess she just means that Uranus has powers associated with men and women as well or something along these lines.

>>141946283
I would probably read that as something like "Uranus [possesses characteristics of] both males and females"

>>141937585
What is this?

>>141942066
This.

Stars is the conclusion and the climax of the series. Everything comes together really well and all the characters that take the stage actually have some relevance.

>>141946283
>>141946357
In classic anime the gender thing is actually more simpler because on her first appearance Haruka is confirmed as a woman that love to dressed as a man.

Yet in Crystal (and manga), it became ambiguous because Haruka appear in the form of man and woman in many occasions. And this >>141915138 just make the debate and confussion became endless.

>>141947439
Let's just chalk it up to Mrs Takeuchi is a hack writer.

>>141947439
>And this just make the debate and confussion became endless.

It's fucking blown out of proportion.

That's just CR's shitty fast-food translation, which again is inaccurate as hell.

That's all there is too it really.

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>>141947138
PGSM, the live action series.

>>141948196
God damn it, Japan.

>>141948196
How watchable it was ?

Compared to manga or anime, was it enjoyable ?

Any big difference with anime/manga (in story & characteristics) ?

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>>141948196
>dat Usagi
I remember I dropped this just from the 1st episode alone.

The actress who played Usagi just truly didn't have any bit resemblance with Usagi at all.

I know it's stupid to compare 2D with 3D as in no way a real people can 100% match with anime appareance. But at least they should have get the "bishoujo" part right.

>>141948436
It was a lot of fun and very enjoyable. It's pretty much it's own thing plot wise... It takes various things from the manga, anime and even the original Sera Myus.

They change Venus' character to be more of a loner who is already an idol... and Mercury is much more self conscious of her friendship with Usagi which causes her to get brain washed by the Dark Kingdom instead of Mamoru.

Honestly, I really felt like PGSM did certain things with the characters far better than the anime or manga. Especially with Mamoru and Usagi's relationship, it had a nice realistic growth from: I sorta find you annoying to I'm starting to like you into love. And this is all before they figure out about the Moon Kingdom stuff. I always hated that about the original anime, cause they never had an nice romantic moments that made their relationship not feel obligated. And the manga just moves too quickly to have any slow growth with them.

I HIGHLY suggest it; it had its cheesy and bad acting moments, but its worth it in the end.

>>141949761
Might give it a try, somehow that Mamoru & Usagi's relationship sound promising.

The soundtrack in this show is seriously underrated

>>141950084
How so?

Everything in the original OST from the 90's show was miles better.

>>141948196
>PGSM, the live action series.

Aren't there actors that /m/ should recognize?

>>141948436
PGSM is surprisingly decent, but it takes a while for the actors to get into their groove/for you to grow accustomed to the subpar acting. The SoL has a lot of goofy hijinks, the characters all have great characterizations with little twists here and there from their original incarnations and the character interaction is very nice.

It also does a mix and match with interesting elements in Sailor Moon that only appeared later on, like Venus having traits of the Outer Senshi, Luna having traits of Chibi-Usa, Super Sailor Moon, etc. so just seeing the new analogs is interesting.

>>141950211
Meh. They just throw in a chorus in an otherwise forgettable track and call it a day. I've seen people praising the "EPIC" chorus on Youtube so clearly it worked but I'm wholly underwhelmed by the soundtrack save for a couple tracks.

Eternal Eternity is the only good piece of music out of Crystal.

>>141951478
Please stop.

>>141952229
I really wish they kept it as the ED, and made a second ED by Pluto and Saturn. ChibiUsa's ED is terrible.

>>141952245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyr2DLw454

>>141951478
Those outfits make them look so fat. Would it have hurt to get a proper tailor?

>>141952585
it's not terrible, but it doesn't fit the story they're telling. it would go much better with the Dream arc. losing Eternal Eternity after 3 episodes was pure idiocy

>>141952229
EE is amazing. I don't get why they changed the ED at this point, Chibiusa's song doesn't fit this arc at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PIfPZSorwA

>the Senshi still don't know their souls are in their crystals and their bodies are empty husks

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>>141952794
Venus' is so different from the rest.

>>141946039
This one always gets me.

Question: if they get lazy with the next season so that Stars can have more budget, will you be mad?

>>141955684
no because the Dream arc was the worst one (aside from the anime Hell Tree arc)

>>141942066
This. Stars is GOAT and I really hope we get to see Cosmos in Crystal.

>>141952585
It felt so wrong hearing such a cheery song after Chibi-Usa biting the dust like that

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>>141943788
>sailor scouts
I fucking cringed.

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>>141958167
Everytime someone calls them Sailor Scouts, a Chibiusa dies.

>>141952585
A Chibiusa ending song is more fitting for Black Moon or Dream arc, having it for Infinity isn't really right.

>>141942066
>the anime
No. The Stars anime is garbage.

>>141959393
Bet you're one of the people that thinks the first season was the best.

>>141958716
>dat adult Chibiusa.
One of the best episode in SS.

And knowing that this would definitely happpen in S4 just make me eager for the next season to be announced.

>>141949761
I heard that Venus died of illness couple episodes before finale , is it true ?

>>141960480
yeah I think she died of a brain tumor or something

>>141958716
God, when she became an adult and had that midriff going on, that was the first boner I ever had for Chibiusa.

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Don't post bad quality.

>>141950084
I like it, the parts with rock.

>>141959469
Not really. I like the Doom Tree filler and S.

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can't wait to see this scene animated in Crystal

>>141963048

They don't show up transformed in their age swapped forms in the manga. So you'll just be getting this >>141958716

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>>141963102
At least we will get Black Lady joke.

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>>141963048
I can't wait to see this scene animated.

>>141962857
I swear by the thumbnail I almost thought I was gonna see the "eat her poop" image.

>>141965314
wait did Chibiusa stay in the manga all the way till the end, or did she go back at the beginning of the galaxia arc like in the anime?

>>141913371
it's a good time to be a sailor moon fan

>>141967178
Not for Chibiusa fans.

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Speaking as someone who until today had never seen either the original anime or the new Crystal one:

I watched episode 1 of each series today and goddamn, what the fuck did they do to the art style in Crystal? I can see that they may have been trying to follow the art of the original illustrations but it comes off as being really low budget

What do you guys think of these changes?

>>141967743
Do you mean the change from the original anime to season 1-2 of crystal?

I thought that if the animators actually cared in the first two seasons, it probably would've looked stunning.

But there's obviously a reason why the art was so simplified in the original anime, and that's because while Naoko's style was pretty, there was no way it would be translated into animation, well.

This is why they had the characters redesigned for the new season of Crystal, and it looks 10x's better.

>>141967743
Everyone agrees, season 1 and 2 of Crystal are pretty bad.
Season 3 however, kicks ass.

Comparison between season 2 and 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfo5BW1vGog

>>141964207
I like this version of adult Chibiusa better than the classic anime version >>141963048

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>>141967743
You have to see season 3 of Crystal.

They have fix it a lot, it even superior than the classic anime IMO

>>141968871
I love the classic version more than crystal. But I have to be honest, i'm liking the way the S arc is playing out now than in the 90's anime.

>>141968871
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>>141967861
I will have to take a look at Season 3 then.

I'm really enjoying the original show. I'm watching the dub (which I'm sure is sacrilege here) but I just like the English voices, particularly Usagi/Serena's. Going to stay well away from dubbed Crystal though, sounds nasty.

Do you guys think I can just go straight to this season while not watching the previous ones?

>>141966863
She stayed til the end.

>>141969343
you may need some knowledge of what happened in the story before since it references past events in the plot.
I'd suggest reading the manga up to act 27, and then starting the new season.

>>141969258
>watching a butchered version of an anime
ok then, anon. New viz dub for the 90's anime took me for a loop too when I first heard it and I hated it, but I got pretty used to it after a few episodes. And plus, hearing that old OST from the og anime is comfty as fuck. It's hard to imagine someone missing out on that.
I'd suggest you'd try it out

>>141969343
You'd really need to know about the story of the silver millenium, and other things that happened in the first 2 story arcs in order to fully enjoy the season.
I'm not too sure how jumping into this season without knowing anything about SM would feel like, but i'm gonna assume you'll be extremely confused.
>>141969487
Like this anon said, reading the manga to catch up would be your best bet

>>141960851
Did she revived at the end ?

>tf 90s anime cuts Hotaru out of fourth season

>>141966863
In manga at the beginning of Galaxia arc she going back to the future but coming back in the final battle to aid Eternal Sailor Moon fighting Galaxia.

She even bring the amazones (now as a Sailor Soldiers) to help.

>>141969709
I'm more disturbed by the fact that she is the only Senshi without any transformation scene.

I hope they will give her a proper transformation scene in Crystal now.

>>141905462
That's honestly so disappointing compared to how the old anime did it.

>>141969841
That also, I disliked that and in the game she had like a 2 second medicore transformation. Did they not like her or something?

>>141969841
I want to believe but I wouldn't get my hopes up

>>141914462
>Sailor Moon's plot is nothing to write home about

Seriously, I've never seen anime do classic tragedy better. Sailor Moon is at its best when it takes itself seriously, it's just the weak writing, development and characterization that makes Crystal (and the manga) such garbage.

>>141931869
She has pretty much the most complex personality of any character in anime. I have no idea why the hell you are so dense.

>>141930364
>I've heard about how the amazoness quartet were supposed to be sailor senshi in the manga, so I can see how that'd upset people.

This is a completely irrelevant detail that doesn't matter. I don't know how you'd complain about the anime adaptation of the arc, yet also hate that it just specifically doesn't do this particular thing.

>>141931329
>This arc is where the story really started to get good anyway.

That's the problem. They had the opportunity to make the first two seasons fantastic, given how important they are and how much focus they get through the various adaptation, but they chose not to do this and just let everything be sloppy as hell. The later seasons work well for what they are, but the first season is the meatiest part of Sailor Moon by far.

>>141969547
What exactly is 'butchered' out of curiosity? I'm aware the character names are changed and some elements involving death are changed but I don't mind those.

>>141958716
> a Chibiusa dies
Good, Chibiusa is a title that no dub should ever use as it makes no sense in English. The old dub was right to use Rini.

>>141952229
>They just throw in a chorus in an otherwise forgettable track and call it a day.

Usagi's transformations were always shit music wise. They would have been far more fitting for Sailor V.

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>>141969258
> I'm watching the dub (which I'm sure is sacrilege here)

Great, but yeah, people here will shit all over you for it. Enjoying DiC Sailor Moon is perfectly fine, as long as you recognize that it's basically a completely different show from the original.

>but I just like the English voices, particularly Usagi/Serena's

Serena's first voice is excellent, and you're more than right to prefer her to her Japanese actress. I don't think anyone else has played her with that kind of energy better than that or made her spaz out scenes work as well. Having said that, while some of the characters are done better in the dub, the the Japanese has a far wider variety of interesting characters overall.

>>141969547
>And plus, hearing that old OST from the og anime is comfty as fuck
DiC pulled off many musical themes well, but the dub soundtrack gets overbearing and repetitive fr more quickly and and up leaking the variety of moods the Japanese has, even if certain themes and song sections make select episodes more enjoyable.

>>141970130
The whole anime is basically completely different, all the characters are different people with different personalities, everything is rewritten, certain villains are replaced 'the negaverse' (which is the weirdest aspect of the dub by far) and most episodes are re-edited to show different scenes in different orders, with scenes from later or earlier episodes being frequently edited in different places. The whole thing is remade to feel like a Canadian Saturday morning cartoon. Like I said, it can be quite fun to watch in the right mindset, but you shouldn't be ignorant of what the show is like in Japanese.

Image related isn't shown in the old dub, sadly.

>>141962857
Sorry about that, I had to use my Iphone to screencap it.

Usually I use my Ipad to take HQ images, but somehow after updated to ios9 the photo albums took a long time to restore (still haven't finished restoring until this second) and it somehow inaccessible.

>>141970516
>underage kid pointing a real looking gun on other people's head.

Yeah, it is very acceptable it got removed.

>>141970516
>Serena's first voice is excellent
Yes I do like it, but I've read ahead that the voice actress changes over the course of the show. First is the best, second is nice but the third really falls off the rails from what I've heard. I'm not looking forward to that one.

And yeah, I understand how it's different. The 'Saturday morning cartoon' feeling is actually the feeling I'm looking for as I enjoyed watching dubbed Pokemon and DBZ when I was younger and I suspect they were similarly edited to 'westernize' them. I'm fine with that, just like I was fine with death being replaced by the shadow realm in Yugioh. But I'll give the Japanese version a shot at some point too.

>>141971145
>Yes I do like it, but I've read ahead that the voice actress changes over the course of the show.

Yeah, I was about to mention that, as it really is a big deal. The first cour is the most enjoyable part of the dub mainly for this reason (though I think she also comes back for Jupiter's intro episode). I really don't care for the actresses that come after her and it really robs the dub of what would otherwise make it stand out positively.

I completely forgot to mention the 'Sailor Says' parts, though there's not much I need to say about those.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwJT6P9dNQY

>>141904808
She'll be missed.... for one week.

>>141971603
oh the 90s and their "you better have learned a lesson from this cartoon" obsession

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>>141974679
Because Sailor Moon is such a role model.

Were Saturn and Pluto's roles in the story originally supposed to be reversed?

It would make a lot more sense to have Saturn appear in the Black Moon arc and have time powers, and Pluto to be the edgy senshi of the "forbidden planet" with death powers.

I know the outer senshi didn't even exist in Takeuchi's original idea of the story, but it sure seems like some things got mixed up when she decided to extend the story past the first arc.

>>141976159
http://www.genvid.com/diesgaudii/saturnpluto/new/index.html
:^)

>>141970130
Think of 4kids and how they butcher their anime and you have the 90s dub of sailor moon. It's good for laughs and it was tons of peoples first experience to sailor moon, sure. But if you try to talk about sailor moon on a board like this and you only know about the dub then you're going to be lost in the discussion because they altered so many plot points, it's not even the same show anymore.

>>141974895
Not to mention in the manga, it's heavily implied that Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask were fucking like dogs after the dark kingdom arc ended.

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I like the Sailor V manga.

>>141976345
Jesus that reads like its from 2016 not 2001. a proto-tumblrina

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>>141977295
I was thinking about this a few days ago.
Most of you associate that sort of behaviour with tumblr bitches but that sort girl always existed, they used to hang-out on Livejournal or Geocities years ago.
Nowadays it is tumblr.

>>141969951
>I want to believe

Believe it, man.

Hotaru will have a transformation scene.

Season 3 has done everything right so far. They won't let us down on this.

>>141975990
Silence Glaive this.

So in the end, they changed Chibiusa so that people who hated her won't hate her as much anymore, but people who actually loved her will hate her?
Good job Toei, you're right to make lolicons go away from SM.

>>141981372
I think everyone who used to love Chibiusa from the 90's series loves her even more now.

Toei nailed it on this Season.

>>141975990
3D was a mistake.

>>141981372
that's how Chibiusa was in the manga. The 90's anime made her a brat because they neede conflict to make filler I suppose

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>>141981619
She is technically still a brat now.

It's just she rarely shown that side in S3.

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>>141980498
Amen for that.

But even if they missed it this season, there's another chance in Season 4. (When she got her memories as Saulor Saturn back.)

>>141981465
You can bet your ass it's not like that.
For one, they are very prude with her now, not a bishoujo who is a bit sexy.
They dealt a direct hit to lolicons with her new stick body and long skirt.

>>141982130
Why do the costumes always look like ass?

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>>141982130
Ugh, what is this ?

I don't even....

And that right one, is that supposed to be Pluto ? She is looking too young compared to Uranus and Neptune.

>>141980498
They better give her a transformation scene.
We've been waiting over 20 years for one.

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>>141982130

Are those men

>>141981372
Wait, I don't understand, what exactly did she do to make lolicons hate her here?

>>141976345
>Princess Selenity
Oh boy, here we go.

>>141982249
Budget. Which is funny considering how well the musicals did. They're actually very good and the non-musical scenes are pure fun and goofy hijinks. I really recommend them if you enjoy Sailor Moon and want something different.

>>141982941
read
>>141982198

I'm not a lolicon so I don't see the difference.

I'm confused with the last episode and this one.
Was that Neo Queen Serenity or Princess Serenity?
Last episode they called her princess but she had the crown?
And in this episode it looked like they didnt use her silver hair? It's confusing me.

>>141983328
So they hate a character just because she's not exposing herself as much?

Too bad for them, they can die and nobody will miss them. Not even their disappointed parents.

>>141983474
>How dare they not show an 8 year old child wearing two dimes and a corn chip on her body!! censorship!!

Yeah these guys are pedophiles in the making

>>141983474
>>141983584
Alright, that's enough moralfaggotry for /a/.
Buy yes, that's pretty much the gist of it. Also don't exaggerate with what I wanted to see her wearing with phrases like "two dimes and a corn chip xD". I just wanted her to have the same sexy clothes and skirt length that everyone else.
Or write her out of the series, if they don't make her "bishoujo" either ways.

>>141983869
Why do you want to see an 8 year old wearing a short skirt so badly that you want her written off if she isn't?

>>141983937
It just feels as if she's being shamed like this standing next to the other girls who still wear the same hot outfits.

>>141983869
Fuck off, you started whining in here about trivial garbage, so take what we're giving you.

I have a feeling we're being visited by that same assclown who whined about Rika and Miria's bellies in the Idolmaster Cinderella Girls anime.

>>141984080
I'm fine with being called a pedo, well deserved and all, just saying that no thread deserves moralfaggotry like this.
Don't turn my sickness into a flame war.
Still, as one such person, I am disappointed with what they did to Chibiusa, though it was obvious they are going to be prude about her in today's industry.

>>141984250
No one really cares man.

>>141984005
I don't think that's the right way to use the term "shaming"
I'd understand if this was any other soldier than Chibiusa, but she's designed to look like a kid.

Just admit that you want her to have a short skirt so you can have a quick fap to her instead of dancing around the subject.

>>141984291
Of course, but it still stings that they treat her as a kid actually now, and not a child beautiful soldier like before, or in the manga.
By that logic, all the other girls could get the same treatment as everyone is underage.

>>141984358
in japan the orher girls aren't underaged so I don't really care about them.
She was always treated as a kid?

>>141984453
>in japan the orher girls aren't underaged so I don't really care about them
You are talking out of your ass now, nothing more.
The AoC is pretty much the same as in the US everywhere aside from a few regions where it's either 15 or 16.
And she was treated as a kid, yet still got proud and hot outfit, official art and pantyshots.

>>141984250
fag

>>141984250
>Don't turn my sickness into a flame war.
You started it, so reap what you sow

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>>141984358
>or in the manga.

>>141985102
I don't reap anything here.
The thread does, idiot.

>>141985736
Not really. You complained about nonsense in it unnecessarily and started hating on something just because it wasn't naked enough for you.

Sailor V animation when

>>141929779
S and stars are better.
I really liked chibiusa relationship with Helios though. Also Nehelenia best vilain

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>>141986550
I think they'll do Infinity and Dream together like they did with the first two seasons, then Sailor V will be with Stars in the same way.

>>141986376

Ignore him. He comes into nearly every thread crying about the lack of Chibiusa fanservice.

>>1419833
The flashback from Chibiusa's POV in this episode was Neo Queen Serenity. Could be an error in hair color or a decision by Kon?

As for last episode, that didn't appear in the manga. I'm guessing since Serenity is officially the heir to the crystal and revived the Moon Kingdom, they wanted to reflect that on her character. She wont be queen until she marries

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>>141976419
not that there's anything wrong with that

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>>141976419
Can we even talk about implications? For example this was pretty straight.

>>141989931
Anime version of same scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=377N8Mr7ZE8

New black dog doujins when?

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>>141991009
Why?

>>141991009
>>141991627
Putting the HOT back into Hotaru.

>>141906718
/a/

>>141982130
DELETE THIS

>>141983869
She's not even sexy. Her head is way too big for her body. None of them really are that good looking, maybe Uranus and Hotaru, and Venus

>>141931565
That was still random as heck.

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>>141993237
Says you.
I for one sure don't want to know what kind of small headed amazonesses you consider hot.

>>141994212
>liking disproportionate midgets

>>141994332
>disproportionate
I guess you like the ugly, frail, tall model type.
Pretty bad taste if you ask me.

>>141994684
>having too big of a head for your body is sexy
Everyone's entitled to shit taste

>>141990393
Man, I forgot how bad the first two seasons of Crystal looked. And that's not even one of the worst-looking scenes.

Uranus and Neptune's Seramyu actresses are suspicious as hell. Are they fucking or something?

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>>141980498
Bout goddamn time.

>>142000196
Why are Usagi's parents letting their underage daughter sleep in the same house as her much older boyfriend?

>>142000898
In dream arc (manga) there is a scene where Usagi sleepover in Mamoru's house but she phoned her mother and lying by saying she was having a sleepover in Makoto's house for studying with her friends. So that might be the logical explanation why they let her.

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>>142000898
because they're easily fooled, ie Chibiusa coming from out of nowhere, looking exactly like a pink Usagi, and having a ridiculous backstory

>>142001549
>fooled
They're being hypnotized by using Luna-P.

>>141982049
she's going to grow up in this version, since it follows the manga.

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I'm finishing up the Nehellania arc in Stars and im growing closer to finishing the original anime.
This is why I prefer watching longer series sometimes. It's easier to become attached to a character when you spend a long time watching the show.
I fucking love Usagi