Is there a loli more loved by both 11s and the West than Alice?

>>141781776
Sakura.

Red Riding Hood.

I've seen a shit ton of doujins retelling the fable, and it was actually about purity to begin with.

Remilia

But why is she so tied in to urination?

>>141785512
All that tea has to go somewhere

>>141785166

Only good one I can think of is the one where the Red Riding hood gets bustier with each new generation and the wolf in training fails to eat the red riding hood

File: Alice.(Alice.in.Wonderland).full.1987214.jpg (2MB, 1000x1415px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1000x1415px

Anime adaptation when?

She's always an adult in Western shit nowadays. The original is pretty much the only version where she's a loli.

File: a048.jpg (153KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]

153KB, 1024x768px

The japs sure do love her.

File: ALICE.jpg (151KB, 900x600px) Image search: [Google]

151KB, 900x600px

Best monster.

>>141781776
none

Alice is universally loved more than any other character

>>141781776
Her dress is perfect.

Please do not lewd the Alice

>>141788407
But the original was made for lewd anon.

>>141788475
Dodgson was a good boy, he didn' do nuthin to lil Alice.

>>141786737
>adult
>sometimes have black hair
Can they JUST her any harder?

>>141788755
Wasn't that her original version?

>>141781776
I can't believe I bought your book.

>>141788811
Wait I thought she's blonde

>>141787969
Holy shit that thing is just diabolical.

>>141781776
>11s
I haven't heard that term in half a decade.

File: 1433328011016.jpg (329KB, 669x900px) Image search: [Google]

329KB, 669x900px

Best persona.

>>141790875
Die for me!

>>141781776
Alice is drowning in symbolism.

First, Alice is basically the lolicon bible, in the "protect, don't touch" sense. The author was a pedo, and he wrote a story about a loli for a loli.

Second, Alice is a very psychological (deep, edgy, pretentious, etc.) work.

Third, there's a lot of symbolism and important figures/references in the work, like Jabberwocky, the White Rabbit with the pocket watch, the Queen of Hearts.

Alice is one of the most well known mythologies across all (modern) cultures, beaten out by King Arthur and Cinderella, and a few more works I'm forgetting.

File: 1420521420118.jpg (1MB, 1792x2932px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1792x2932px

It's kind of weird how appealing I find Alice despite never having read the book or really liked the Disney movie.

>>141786737

Good thing I suppose then that the book and the original Disney movie are the only things that people give a shit about.

Though the live action was interesting some respects.

File: [Mori] Dagashi Kashi - 10 [7BD10386].mkv_snapshot_22.20_[2016.05.20_21.14.59].jpg (110KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

110KB, 1280x720px

I will never get tired of her presence in anime.

>>141788925

She's originally a brunette. People got the blonde part because of Disney,

File: you didn't forget about this show did you anon.jpg (254KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

254KB, 1280x720px

>>141792474

>>141792546
Not really.
She's brunette in Carroll's illustrations, but blonde-ish in Tenniel's.

What Disney did and popularised was the light blue and white outfit.

>>141791460
I haven't done my research, but I've always lumped Alice in with the likes of Wizard of Oz, in that the whole thing was just a string of political allegories from another era. It all seems random and hyper-creative to modern eyes, because we don't get the references anymore. Is that wrong?

>>141792635
Too bad the Alice and Mad Hatter stuff ended with the OP and it sold so poorly it's unlikely that Pine Jam will still exist next season.

>>141792960
Yes you're wrong

>>141792960
You're overestimating it. It sounds random because it pretty much was invented at the top of the hat for the enjoyment of kids. There are a lot of parodies of child songs and things like that which have been forgotten too. The interesting passages are just an extra.