Why is Sakura so underrated?

>>141761774
Because dick worms.

>being a wormfag

>>141761774
>raped by worms
>sempai spam
>shoe horned into an Illya arc
>both competing routes have better heroines
>most people have decided who they like and don't by HF
>trained to literally crave cock
>inb4 not cock just mage semen
Actually read the game when you play it.

The question is more like who would like her.

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>>141761774
literally made for dicking and nothing else

>>141761774
Two reasons.
- VN is awfully long and not everyone makes it to her route
- her route hasn't been animated yet

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>>141762495
?

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>>141761774
Because hating her is a meme.

>>141762834
>hasn't been animated
Neither had a lot of things. Plenty of obscure things get more love and attention. If you're implying that the metric for the reception to Sakura as a character should be based of secondaries you're retarded.

TM has enough clout and backing that they can make gag shows like Carnvial Phantasm without alienating their fanbase.

>>141762924
>this meme again
>studio still draws cockworms in the art book
I wonder what's being adapted?

>>141763397
I'm sure making a porno is good for business.

>>141764278
I wouldn't fuck Sakura but I sure as fuck would like to see her get fucked.

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>>141761774
Not enough screen time. Also most people on /a/ aren't doms.

>>141764278
Are you that faggot who keeps calling the VN a porn prototype in every thread?

>>141762924
What the fuck is this? I was sure the worms looked like dicks.

>>141765715
The dick-worms were retconned in Realta Nua.

>>141765745
>>141762924
Realta Nua is just an all ages version of the VN
It is, in no way fucking canon
It is just what the eroge companies do when they port their shit to consoles (like Grisaia)
You want proof? Just look at one of the pages of the F/Z manga
They show Sakura with dick worms there
I'll post the manga page if I can find it

>>141761774
Because faggots. Sakura is the only heroine that's actually a woman and not a twelve year old boy. Some people take offense to this, but can't bring themselves to admit why.

>>141762592
>shoe horned into an Illya arc
Was Heaven's Feel about Illya? Nope. Illya was shoe horned into Sakura's arc because there wasn't enough time to make the Illya arc.

>both competing routes have better heroines
Except Sakura was never meant to be the heroine.

>trained to literally crave cock
That was because she has too or she would die thanks to the worm inside her. She tried to hold for as long as she can but Shinji kept raping her and the fact that she was getting close to the man she loved drove her to the limit.

>The question is more like who would like her.
I like her.

>>141766478
RN is more canon than the sex version.

>>141761774
wormslut memes.

>>141767056
>She tried to hold for as long as she can but Shinji kept raping her
>kept
>hold off
Nice head canon. She only refused once and she was trained to crave past needing to survive matey. Sorry dog.

>>141767548
That's exactly what I said. She tried to hold off but Shinji kept raping her and abusing her.

>>141767159
Except it's not a meme, it's completely true. It's in the fucking VN.
Pleasing old men for money is a meme, because it's from a doujin.
Saber being BLACKED is a meme, it's also from a doujin.
Wormslut is 100% canon. Not a meme.

>>141769775
Nope, her being forced into the worms and mindbroken is from the VN.

Her being a slut for the worms is a meme.

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>>141766478
>the VN isn't canon, but a manga is!
Anon...

>wormfags are so deluded they claim Sakura is virgin
Never change anon

>>141769775
Rin sleeping around in London is from the VN. Saber being cucked was canon since literally a thousand years before F/SN was made. Sakura having her worms removed and proving herself to be the very antithesis of a slut through not getting together with anyone other than Shirou is canon as well. "Wormslut" was always nothing but a forced meme.

>>141770337
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P7muwuQeZk

>>141761774
Because muh pure waifu have been defiled

I'm pretty sure it's only /a/ that hates her.

>>141769775
>Be forced to have worns inserted into your vagina since young age
>This is somehow your fault and makes you a slut
If you ever get raped in a dark alley at night I will be the first one to call you a slut

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>>141761774
If anything, she's overrated. Worst girl by far

>>141762592
Come on man HF is sakura's route not illya's

>>141770604
>making it a purity thing
>when she literally craves dick all the time
It's not to 'survive' either, that is a that and this is this. I don't have the cap saved but there's a point where she elaborates on the craving and it isn't just for magic cum, m8, she wants it all.

Purity is one thing but actively preferring burned out raped husks of people is a bit weird on your part would you not say?

>>141770604
>wanting used goods
Why?

>>141770621
That must mean we've been too harsh on SAO and SnK as well, they're plenty popular.

>>141770694
Overrated? You have to be kidding me! There is only a small group in /a/ who likes her.

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>>141770726
>It's not to 'survive' either
>implying

>>141770239
It stops being canon when you patch it with Realta Nua.

>>141770819
>she needs dick to survive
What a slut

>>141770819
She's literally been proven to lie. To Shiro, to others and even to herself. In fact the fact that she's pushing that angle there but contradicts herself later gives it even more credence.

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>>141770758
Because I'm a used good too

>>141770786
Ahh yes comparing a character in a show to some random anime well done. That's like me comparing my cat with a fucking movie theater

>>141770922
Not really. You suggested that the best metric was outside /a/, I just took that to logical extreme to poke fun at how stupid it is.

>>141770621
The posters hating on her can hardly be said to belong to /a/, though, since they have a clear tendency to type like they're from /v/ or /r9k/ and use 3DPD reaction pics.

>>141770864
No need to self-insert Anon.

>>141770975
I never once in my life said the best metric was out of /a/ everyone has there own opinions my bad if it seemed like that's what I meant.

>>141770904
>contradicts herself later
Where? Don't tell me you mean the interlude where it's mentioned she wanted to have more sex with Shirou. He happens to be her boyfriend, so that's natural.

>>141770864
All women do, she's just honest about it.

>>141770982
>secondaries and crossboarders don't like wormslut
Which ones are you talking about? Most would only be on /a/ for awhile before getting over the series and leaving. So the ones from UBW? If so how do you explain that it's been around far longer? Was it always secondaries and cross boarders who just inexplicably turned up for these threads only to hate Sakura?

Impassible. Are they the most salient source now? Possible.

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I can't wait to hear Shitaya performing this scene.

>>141771169
The ones who just read summaries of HF and got a completely wrong impression of the events in it, but insist on shitposting about it and Sakura.

>>141770906
Funny how lisefags actually reject Sakura. You really should search a better comparison

>>141771350
>reading FSN is now reading summaries of HF if you don't like Sakura

>>141771429
I wasn't comparing though

>>141771468
Considering how awful her haters' grasp of the route in general tends to be, that pretty clearly is the case.

>>141771468
this

There is literally no reason to hate Sakura unless you've read HF.

That's the story that makes you dislike her.

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Sakura is perfect wife material that you would be proud to take home to meet your parents.

>>141771482
Carry on then, my mistake

>>141771528

You love to claim this as fact, when time after time you (yes, you specifically, I know you're the same faggot) have been completely torn to shreds again and again for YOUR delusions regarding HF.

Kill yourself.

>>141771589

This.

>>141771600

>Wormslut puffs up with worms

>>141771589
You're right, and yet you commonly see people claiming to dislike her without even having read it. Makes it pretty clear they're trying too hard to fit in.

How can people hate sakura she gave us sakura fish

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>>141761774
Opposites attract. Sakura is meek and submissive like most weebs, so they want someone knightly like Seiba.

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Have you accepted the OTP, /a/?

>>141771853
Saber x some random cock?

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>>141771640
Sounds like you're a bit upset about others dismantling your nonsense.

>>141771885
Arturia x Merlin, senpai.

>>141771640
>>Wormslut puffs up with worms
Nice meme.

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>>141771885
>not recognizing fou
>not knowing fou is a familiar/extension of Merlin
>not knowing she tells this to Merlin in GoA

>>141771805
This is patently wrong given how popular other quiet girls are. Are you truly that desperate to rationalize this?

>>141772227
Yeah, what a fucking idiot, In reality, they'd want someone more like Rin, not Saber.

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>>141772370

>>141770239
You should check your reading comprehension.

>>141762924
These actually look more terrifying than dickworms. The dickworms just look silly

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>>141761774
I like her. I think one reason for her being less popular than the other girls is that she spends a good part of her route lying in bed or being a villain.

>>141772782
>You want proof? Just look at one of the pages of the F/Z manga

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>>141761774
Reminder

>>141773041
E/b/in!

>>141771899

Go shove tapeworms up your ass, so you can be more like your waifu.

>>141773814
>being this mad
Hit the bullseye, didn't I?

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Sakura threads are only good for Sakura lewds.

Post lewd Sakuras.

Just kidding, BB is the best lewds. Sakura a shit.

>>141773851

You wish. I've just learned the hard way that it's not even worth my time to bother attempting a rational discourse with you.

>>141773938
You don't sound like you were ever rational.

>>141773889
Goddamn. She's a goddess.

>>141773971

Says the wormslut lover. Now that's irony!

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>Ruined Ilya's route
>Cockblocked Rider
>Fucked up Shirou's life permanently
SHIT

Wow /a/ really hates Sakura huh.

>>141774054
We hate you too.

>>141774088
I'm not Sakura though.

Because she won't stop munching on that damn fish.

>>141774012
Case in point.

>>141774054
No, Sakurafags are really easy targets and so they get targeted.

Sakura's big problem is that she's more a plot device than an actual character in F/SN. She exists to put HF Shirou in the very specific circumstances needed to decide to throw away his ideals, and beyond that just doesn't have much to her because most of the important stuff between her and Shirou happened before the game even started.

With Saber and Rin, they only really meet Shirou once the game gets started so Nasu had to spend time developing their relationships with him. With Sakura, she's just The Childhood Friend. A huge part of her character is how she's been a fixture in Shirou's life ever since they first met, and that's something that canmt be conveyed to the reader at all beyond having, I don't know, an entire game prior where she appears at the beginning of every single day to chat with Shirou. And nobody should have to tell you how silly that would be.

A lot of Sakura's character only really becomes apparent in F/HA. In F/SN proper she mostly just exists to be pitied. Carnival Phantasm even joked about it.

Sometimes I wonder if everyone in these threads only argue like this because it reminds them of better days, and because they have become closer emotionally through their arguments than most people ever become even with their spouses.

Then I remember it's a Fate thread, and look upon the shitposts with glee.

>>141774025
>Ruined Ilya's route
It was never Illya's route.
>Cockblocked Rider
Rider was never romantically interested in Shirou (until HA)
>Fucked up Shirou's life permanently
Because being like Kiritsugu was such a great life! /s
Also Shirou made that choice because he loved Sakura.

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>>141774139
What's wrong with fish?

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>>141774226
>It was never Illya's route.
Go fuck yourself

>>141774054
Not really, it's just a stale meme.

>>141774179
This is a genuine problem with her character.

Theoretically, Shirou should be invested most with Sakura, because he's known her so long, but the reader doesn't feel that way, because by the time they've gotten to HF, they've spent a hell of a lot more time with the other heroines.

If they somehow made Sakura just as involved as Rin and Saber, I think a lot of her hate would evaporate, as readers would actually want to save her come time for the route.

>>141765566
Actually there is no rason to hate her if someone hasn't read HF.

Personally I don't hate her but I find her really boring.

>>141774179
Incidentally, Sakura and Shirou's dynamic in F/HA is the best. Those two dorks keep getting embarassed and falling back on the safe topic of cooking. You also get stuff like Sakura seizing control of the Matou house and locking every single door with different locks so Shinji has to carry around a massive jey ring.

Girl is vengeful.

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>>141774179
Sakurafag here, I honestly agree. Sakura was never developed well. While Rin and Saber were being developed through the 3 routes, Sakura only had 1 and even then the Illya material got shoe horned in from her original route.

As a Sakurafag I cringe when other people say that "Sakura is the best character" and "Sakura is best girl" because in reality, she is not. It just comes down if you liker her and want to protect her smile.

Pretty sure sakurafish is half the reason she has any popularity on /a/.

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>>141761774
>Fanfic bullshit
Her route is not canon.

>>141774179
Her screentime in Fate and UBW is more than enough to get one endeared with and interested in her by the time HF starts.

She's basically Oogy Boogy. I don't know why people don't like that.

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>>141774475

>>141774395
>Sakurafag here
>not defending your waifu to do the death
Rinfag here. You make me sick.

>>141774497
I sure was endeared with how she got kicked out of the plot like Mitsuzuri, Taiga, and all of the other normal people.

>>141774355
People seem to like CCC Sakura more, so probably.

>>141774634
That's precisely why it's interesting to see her get focused on in HF.

>>141774497
I entirely disagree.

The first two routes manage to balance including Saber and Rin in the events of the story. Hell, the game opens up with you playing as Rin for a while, so you even have that going.

Throughout Fate and UBW, you see their triumphs, their mistakes, their different personality quirks, and by the end, you want to see them succeed, and hell, that even continues through HF.

Saber, Rin, and especially Shirou, I would say are very well rounded characters in terms of being fleshed out.

Sakura appears in Fate and UBW, but she doesn't really get involved with the story. Now you can explain that away due to circumstances obviously, but that doesn't get the reader endeared to her in any significant way. Not in the sense of being right in the thick of things during the grail war.

Then when you get to HF, they have to pile everything about Sakura onto you, and it doesn't necessarily work.

>>141774626
>Not accepting the legit errors and problems of your waifu and still loving here either way
YOU make me sick.

>>141774693
>accepting them means you have to damage control to a bunch of no-names on the internet
You make me FUCKING SICK.

>>141774762
>implying you aren't as much of a no-name than me
LITERALLY SICK

>>141774762
>adding fuel to a fire which will never calm down
YOU fucking sicken ME.

>>141774693
>>141774762
>>141774814
>>141774849
All THREE OF YOU make me sick. I'm fucking BARFING right now.

>>141774685
Screentime=/=Personality. Saber and Rin are far from deep or original characters.

>>141774814
>he says while still employing damage control to that no name
NINE LIVES SICK WORKS

>>141774888
What are you even trying to say here? Are you implying that over the course of hundreds of thousands of words, you didn't get a grasp on either of their personalities?

I would honestly be more impressed than anything if you said that.

>>141774886
Tell me King of SICKS, do you have enough SICKS IN STOCK?

>>141775008
The opposite. Their personalities were far too easy to get a grasp on. That's not a good thing.

>>141775068
Why? Easy to understand on a surface level doesn't inherently mean lack of complexity.

I love Shirou, he's probably my favorite /a/ protagonist, and while he's certainly not the easiest to digest at just a glance, that doesn't mean characters who you can get a firmer grasp on more easily are less in quality.

You see plenty of facets of Saber and Rin's personalities. Their hopes, their fears, their aspirations, and even through HF, some of their darker aspects.

Sakura doesn't get as naturally fleshed out. Most of it is just crammed into one route.

>>141775216
>Most of it is just crammed into one route.
It is her route, after all.

>>141775287
Yes, but Rin, Saber, and Shirou all get fleshed out through the entire story.

Aspects of them naturally unravel as you progress. You only see snippets of Sakura in Fate and UBW. Come HF, they need to establish her kinder, gentler side, then her issues, then her darker aspects.

It can kind of lead to whiplash.

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>>141773041
Still proud of that one

>>141775441
>capping your own post

>>141775523
>not capping your posts to look at later
w e w
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Post more lewd Sakuras like that anon demanded, fags

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>>141775845
Sure why not.

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>still not scanned

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>>141775845
How lewd are we talking here?

>>141775845
She has the most fuckable body if nothing else.

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>>141776023

As lewd as Sakura.

That is to say, too lewd.

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>>141776314
Good.

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>>141776314

Perfect.

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Have one more.

>>141776314
>>141776384
>>141776483

Literally born to make babies. Just like her mother.

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>>141776869

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>>141776938

>>141771225
The fuck is this scene? Is that some kind of Zero Berserker Sakura?

The fact that a thread titled "Why is Sakura so underrated" ended in people spamming Sakura lewds is really telling.

>>141777218

Prisma Ilya has Servants as things you install on people. An alt-universe Sakura has Zero Berserker installed.

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>>141777238

You can't argue with a body like this, anon.

But a Rin is fine too.

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>>141777346
Both is good.

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>>141765715
Currently have three versions.

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>>141777450

>>141777490

Cute!

>Kariya had at least one kind of these swimming around in his balls

>>141775983
That one is translated, retard.

>>141777549

Yeah but I saw it in my folder and got nostalgic.

>>141761774
The one thing that bugged me about HF was how forced Shirou's motives and character were. Unlike Fate and UBW where there's still romance and development with the heroine, you're pretty much expected to unconditionally love Sakura from the onset. Hell, for the majority of HF she's more of an objective than a heroine. The only development is how far Shirou is willing to go full retard to save her, and we all know the answer to that.

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>>141777602
>[X] I want to save Illya

But the future refused to change.

>>141777602

I actually do agree with this, Nasu did not do a good job of making the audience fall in love with Sakura before the meat of the route began and Shirou started to struggle with his ideals.

I wonder if instead, if Sakura was someone he barely knew, yet still refused to allow to die even for the sake of others, if that wouldn't have been more compelling as far as the conflict of his ideals goes. The fact that Shirou is madly in love with her is fine, but the audience doesn't get much chance to identify with that - on the other hand, if Shirou only knew her as that one kouhai in the archery club and sister of Shinji, but chose that he wanted to save her regardless of the risk she posed to innocent lives because that's more true to his ideal of wanting everyone to be able to smile, that would have been a much more powerful argument (and it would show how nuts Shirou is to sacrifice so much for someone he barely knows).

Then he can fall in love with her over the course of the route or whatever. But I think the biggest flaw of HF is that Shirou starts the route knowing Sakura better than the audience ever could, and there's so much personality of hers that we do not get to see before the bad times begin, that Shirou knows and loves her for.

>>141777602
This is because Shirou's known Sakura for about two years at that point. They'd become pretty close.

The problem is, the reader doesn't see that. The story doesn't do much other than say they've known each other, but it's a driving reason why Shirou wants to protect her, so it comes off weird.

>>141761774
Because she's just kohaku but without anything that makes kohaku a good and liked character

>>141778972
Kohaku is just as bad with her retarded muh revenge shit. At least Sakura couldn't help killing people.

>>141761774
Her Kaleid version is so fucking cute.
Sad that the whole Fate series want to kill her.

>>141779029
>At least Sakura couldn't help killing people.
That's like the cornerstone of what makes sakura such a shit

kohaku actively does stuff and realizies it's fucked up but that's how messed up she is

sakura just passively does stuff and tries to play the "woe is me I have to do all these bad things" card

combine this with kohaku being a character that actually does things in the previous routes and it's a lot less likely to piss the reader off

>>141779236
>combine this with kohaku being a character that actually does things in the previous routes
That's a symptom of having every route share at least two hours worth of scenes I think

>>141777591
funny thing is i just remembered about this meme few hours ago while daydreaming

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>spot thread
>immediately open it
>'if the first post isn't about worms i'm leaving /a/'
>>141762495

never change

>>141762924
Still dickworms. Watch Se7en.

>>141775983
Jesus, that art is poor. I mean at least give her a mouth to eat her favorite food, semen.

>>141779236
At least she didn't have a reason as retarded as
>yeah I got raped by two guys when I was young so I'll kill their whole fucking family!

Come the fuck on.

>>141779684
That's a pretty valid reason though

>>141779830
There was no reason for her to kill Akiha.

>>141761774
She hasn't had an anime adaption yet. Rin, Saber and even Illya have, and given that /a/ is for anime only, that means most of us just know her as that squeaky kohai who got wormed in Zero.

>>141779975
Never said she was right, just that is a good reason to seek revenge

>>141779384
Nah, even past that kohaku is still relevant to the plot, if only for the more light hearted scenes

>>141779975
Akiha is the same sort of potential monster that makasima and SHIKI turned into, combine that with being a crazy person and the fact that akiha got to play outside and she didn't (this was the key thing that prevented her from completely shutting her emotions off so she had to suffer all that time) and you have reason enough to kill

especially since she admits it's all sort of bullshit

>>141761774
Worms

>>141777783
That sounds awful. The entire point of him giving up his ideals is that he finally learns to truly appreciate the ones who are close to him. Him doing it for some nobody he barely even knows and vice versa goes against the entire theme of HF. We get to see Sakura's personality and obvious affection for Shirou (as well as his budding attraction to her) in Fate and UBW anyways, so I don't really see any issue with how it was written. If anything, Shirou and Sakura's relationship is far better handled than the contrived 2-week romances of the other routes.

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>>141761774
itadakimasu

>>141780818

It literally could not be worse than the route we have, where Shirou loves someone we don't give a shit about, and that is used as the foundation for his entire idealistic struggle at the turning point of the route, effectively alienating the audience from Shirou's mindset and making it much more difficult to understand the choice he makes.

The romance in HF is weak compared to the other routes for two reasons: 1) all the positive characterization the audience should have gotten for Sakura over the course of the route is not present: in fact, what the audience gets is a bird's eye view of her worst insecurities and emotions being brought to the forefront via Dark Sakura, and 2) rather than more seamlessly melding the romantic content with Sakura into the entirety of the route like it is in Fate and UBW, Nasu basically shoves it all into the first three days, and the drama begins almost immediately after that.

>>141781408
>all the positive characterization the audience should have gotten for Sakura over the course of the route is not present

I think that it's because unlike Rin, Sakura is a childhood friend. I'm not defending it because I also think he failed to communicate it properly, but I think we were supposed to understand that he was ready to give it all up in a very similar way as to what how was very proactive with protecting Taiga.

Because our two other main girls were new characters he learns to love over a period of time it was not communicated properly that he already loved Sakura the way he did Taiga. I mean, there isn't much characterization given for Taiga and people don't complain about how Shirou is protective of her.

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>>141761774
PERFECTION

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>>141781408
>someone we don't give a shit about
Speak for yourself. His choice wasn't hard to understand at all, as the alternative would have been to kill his girlfriend who hadn't done anything wrong.

>all the positive characterization the audience should have gotten for Sakura over the course of the route is not present
Wrong. There are several scenes devoted to showing her positive characterization, such as ones where she talks with Shirou about their past together, or where she tries to cook together with Rin, not to mention several scenes about her in Fate and UBW (pic related, for example). Her insecurities being shown is precisely what makes her a good character, as it shows that she has actual depth and realism to her and isn't some generic stock character meant to please everyone.

>Nasu basically shoves it all into the first three days
Shirou's attraction to Sakura and vice versa was clear since the very first morning in Fate, even if the other heroines catch his attention instead once the war gets going in their routes. The romance scenes in HF started earlier than the other two routes for sure, but they're hardly lacking in the latter part of the route either, as seen with the scenes where Shirou visits Sakura while she's in bed, for example, or even the scene where he uses Rule Breaker on her. She may not have an out-of-place date scene in the middle of a war or anything, but her romance with Shirou is very well developed.

Basically, it's not that the story is flawed, but rather that it's not written to appeal to the same kind of audience as the other two routes, much like the difference between the Near and Far Side routes in Tsukihime.

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>>141761774
Not enough media material. Most people now don't want to read VNs / LNs, they need animu.

I have felling that the biggest reason people hate her is that she got route instead of Illya

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Don't forget me lads

>>141780818
Then why is the route about Sakura and not about Taiga? hell, we know more about Taiga in the first 2 routes that about Sakura

>>141783014
Because Nasu went full retard and though people will like Sakura

>>141781408
Shirou and Sakura have been very close for a long time, them being in love doesn't need to be spelled out for you, it's by far the most natural romance in the VN.

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>>141783014
Because Sakura is best girl.

>>141782701
only stupid people hate Sakura

>>141783561
Why do you like her then?

>>141783752
Because only stupid people like her

>>141783752
Sakura is pure love.

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>>141783800
With emphasis on pure.

>>141783800
A pure slut.

>>141761774
Because she's a SASUKE-KUN/KUROSAKI-KUN/notice me senpai! type.
That's probably the most annoying character archetype in anime history, and doesn't even have a name.

>>141785906
Lust is just a form of love

>>141777379
>boob docking
>hand holding
MY FUCKING DICK

>>141782698
>implying most people even matter
>implying people didn't think she was a wormslut since the VN
Whatever lets you sleep

>>141783422
I prefer Saber.

Sakura is Kohaku but not wacky comic relief

>fucking a girl who has dickworms that are also an old man inside her
>old man worms nibbling on your dick and shit

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>>141783422
I prefer The Rin.

>>141790544
But the worms give you extra pleasure. Remember how Shirou said he felt her pussy walls move around his dick stimulating it?
He assumed Sakura could do those crazy pussy massage moves because she was an "educated prostitute", but it's actually the worms wriggling and squirming in their desire for semen.

>>141782701
We just need to wait 10-20 years for the inevitable F/SN remake where Ilya gets a route. Just like the Tsukihime remake is giving Sacchin one.

>>141790804
Too bad she doesn't prefer you, but girls.
How does it feel that Sakura is closer to fucking Rin than you would ever be?

>>141790850
This is a perfect mental image. This is what sums up Sakurafags perfectly. A bunch of people who read a story and go, yeah this is what I want.

>>141790911
>20 years

Nasu will be dead or retired.

>>141790971
That will just speed things up. After he dies whoever replaces him is actually going to take his job seriously.

>>141790971
>Nasu's last will
>nothing about his estate or final affairs, just one sentance
>"Prisma is the Illya route :^)"

>>141790944
It's not like you're actually touching them, the worms, once inside, change into a nerve-like structure that works as a magic circuit.
It's not like she has those huge ass penis worms literally stored inside her pussy.

>>141790911
>Tsukihime remake

We STILL don't have a release date for that vaporware shit yet, do we?

>>141791173

Except we see them wriggling through Kariya's body multiple times in Zero.

>>141791351
But in nerve-like form. They were certainly not penis sized like the ones in the worm pit when we saw them move inside Kariya.

so if archer made a thousand rule breakers fall from the sky and attack every servant in sight he could have won and kill shirou

why he didnt do that

>>141791463

True enough

>>141791465
Is Rule Breaker's ability passive or active?
Does it work just with a normal cut or do you have to call it's name and activate it like Excalibur or Gae Bolg?
If it's the latter, then Archer can only use it as Caster does, not spamming.

>>141791465

Because nobody would fall for that. Every Servant would be able to easily defeat an attack that obvious and weak. Rule Breaker is only good for surprise attacks.

>>141791465
They could have easily just remade a pact with their masters. The thing with Saber is that Caster got Shirou to give his command seals away.

It would have been interesting to see Archer do it to Lancer in UBW had he ever learned that Lancer didn't like his master though.

>>141791465
Rule breaker is stated to be SHIT as a dagger. It would fly like crap with that shape, have a hard time piercing anyone, and be easily deflected.

>>141791585
Wait, I might be remember it wrong.

>>141791564
>>141791632

just spam RBs, whats the problem, archer can create thousands of RBs or better yet why not create Broken Phantasm RBs so when they hit by the explosions or something they lose the pact

>>141791585
no, archer would be their master

>>141761774
She's not underrated, but Rin is so perfect she outshines all the other girls

>>141791718
Rin is a shit, grow a pair anon.

>>141791676

>archer can create thousands of RBs

He can only swordspam so many at a time, and their attack power is so pathetic and flimsy that they're trivial even for non-Servants to knock away.

> or better yet why not create Broken Phantasm RBs

That is not how Broken Phantasms work. Broken Phantasms are literally bombs made out of a noble phantasm. They just blow up really well.

>>141791676
>Broken Phantasm RB
>that's just overloading RB so it explodes, it won't make the explosion sever contracts,
However, he could mod the dagger to make Rule Breaker II, optimized to work as an arrow, like he did with Caladbolg and shoot it without overloading it with Prana.
He could basically make a contract-severing arrow and snipe sevants from behind to separate them from their masters. That would be a fine strategy against the ones that hate their masters like Cu.

>>141791823
I can't, I'm a girl.
Hey everyone look! I'm a grill!!!

>>141790850
>enjoying an old man pleasuring you

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>>141791823
Rin is perfection.

>>141791951
why do she have 3 seals there?

>>141791632
>It would fly like crap with that shape
Why didn't Medea think in making it more aerodynamic? I mean, Archer can fire all the other swords just fine amirite?

>>141791951
She uses glasses, so her vision is not perfect, therefore she's not perfect.

>>141791894

Archer can't even snipe a single Servant to death in F/HA except Saber (who blocks his arrows regardless, he only overwhelms her with BP Hruntings and that would not happen with Rule Breaker arrows), he's not landing a Rule Breaker arrow on anyone.

>>141791969
Continuity error. It was fixed in the BD.

>>141791969
She got three seals back in the anime when she got Saber. Didn't really make a difference, she just used two extra in episode 24 to give Saber an extra boost to destroy the grail.

>>141791997
Archer has succesfully sniped Berserker and Saber, two of the greatest servants ever, and they were aware of his presence. Your average servant stands no chance if sniped from behind.

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>>141791951
>>141791923
Rin a flat shit, Sakura is perfection

>>141792101

Archer only successfully sniped Berserker in the anime. In the VN, Berserker blocked the attack and didn't even die once in that whole fight. He's more than capable of blocking even a proper ambush by Archer.

Saber also blocked Archer's surprise attack in F/HA with no problems.

It's not a matter of facing, both of them have skills that straight up allow them to sense unseen threats.

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>>141792137
obese cows pls go

>>141792174
underdeveloped jealous bitches pls go

>>141792137
Sakura is a borderline titty monster.

>>141792333
I fucking hope so.

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>>141792137
>>141792204
>Rin
>flat
As expected.
Sakurafags, being unbalanced murder-loving sexual-deviant extremists, can only see two breast sizes: cowtits or flat.
People with taste favor a balanced figure that will age gracefully like fine wine, and not sag like Sakura will 5 years or so after F/SN.

>>141792403
Rin is flat and her terrible attitude will never allow her to grow decent breasts. Doomed for life.

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>>141792333
Sakura is actually flat.
Liz and Luvia are the true titty monsters.

>>141792534
She hides her power level, its what makes her even more waifuable.

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>>141792471
T O H S A K A
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A
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A

disagrees

>>141792592
>>>/trash/

>>141792471
Even Saber has decent breasts, Rin has the perfect size, VN Sakura has good breasts, and current Sakura has disgusting cowtits.
Nasu thought giving her even bigger breasts would make people like her more and ignore the worms and all that shit, but he ended up ruining her figure.

>>141792627

You're just mad that there's no MAKIRI and there never will be because Sakura's max potential will never be worthy to sign a Counter Guardian pact with Alaya.

>>141792638
Bigger breasts equal motherhood.

Luvia and Sakura >>>>> Rin. Its a clear pattern.

>>141792671
>MAKIRI
That would be Zouken.
Sakura would be either MATOU (which fits Shinji best, other than WAKAME), or TOHSAKA, and be of a different class than Rin, like what happened with Kerry.
Caster TOHSAKA = Rin
Assassin TOHSAKA = Sakura

>>141792737
Bigger breasts equal sag and fat.
And Sakura is flat compared to Luvia, don't you dare put her on the same level, you delusional faggot.

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>>141792928
This.

>>141792928
Rin has shit attitude and is a washboard compared to everyone but Illya.

Sakura and Luvia are queens of their respective series fagget.

>>141792928
>>141793001
Luvia is a titty monster.

Sakura is the perfect middle ground.

>>141793083
>Rin has shit attitude and is a washboard compared to everyone but Illya
>Being this desperate

>Sakura and Luvia are queens of their respective series fagget.
First, Luvia would be queen of BOTH series, since she appears in HF and HA.
But the true queen of cowtits in both series is actually Liz, followed by Medusa and Bazett.
Sakura is actually not impressive at all, so if you like big boobs you chose the wrong waifu, faggot.

>>141792928
Stop comparing Rin to anyone else, she'll always lose by miles or worse.

>>141793348
It's in the nature of the Wormfag to compare everything to Rin. Their world revolves around her, after all.

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>>141793271
>>141793001
>>141792737
Disregard rinfags.

This is now a big tits thread.

>>141793492
>This is now a shit taste thread

>>141793454
shit taste

>>141793492
Source?

>>141761774
After playing Heaven feel i have a higher opinion of her over all.
She still has flaws and hope they do her justice in the movie.

>>141793550
>shit taste
Yes, wormfags have shit taste indeed.

>>141793492
No way Liz is THAT big. And where is the gravity?

>>141793591
Liz is the biggest Fate, aside from that fat chick from Extra and Passionlips, IIRC.

>>141793571
>>141792928
>>141792671
>rinfags desperation

>>141793492
Is she taking a pee?

>>141793699
Casting my dislike for Rinfags aside, those posts you quoted are actually right.
Luvia is way bigger than Sakura, wormfags do have shit taste, and Sakura will likely never become a Counter Guardian.

>>141792101
Berserker didn't give a fuck cause he knew he'd no-sell it and Saber easily deflected multiple Hruntings (which have a homing effect)

>>141793830
Who cares about counter guardians ffs they are lame

>>141793870
The result is what counts, and they are top-tier servants who were aware of Archer's presence.

>>141793923
And when it was zero damage for one and aimbot for the other it's not that impressive

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>>141761774
Sakura master race. Her babies with Shirou will be beautiful.

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>>141793492
Thanks

>>141793971
Berserker died in the anime, and Hruntig's auto-aim is fair game. In fact, even his normal arrows appeared to auto aim when he was shown as a Counter Guardian killing ISIS and shit.

>>141794022
Sakura can't have babies, though.

>>141794056
Can she take a dick?

>>141794132
No. Autists can't properly consent, so she would have to be raped in order to take a dick.

>>141794122
Shirou and Sakura together can make the impossible possible anon.

>>141794197
Well, they can always adopt or rent Rider or Rin's uterus.

>>141794254
Rin will be a minus, the only option is Illya to secure great genes.

>>141794122
In a world filled with magic she can.

>>141794177
Isn't that just a legal matter? So even if she gives consent it will be rape?

>>141794254
Servants can't procreate.

>>141794177
I mean if she's anatomically complete and has a pussy and womb able to take a big cock?

>>141794314
Sakura is as much of a minus as Rin, Zouken didn't change her genes

>>141794314
>Illya
>Superior genes
She has albinism and probably doesn't even have nine months to live to have a child, and the baby would probably have his head crushed by the sheer tightness of her child-like pussy.
Tohsaka's genes are the closest to Sakura, and Rider is a fucking divine being, who wouldn't want defective albino genes over hers?

>>141794519
Sakura is the canon wife tho, she brings the purest feelings of love.

>>141794437
Irisviel had a pussy, or some other form of reproductive mechanism. But in Liz's case maybe reproduction wasn't a necessary function, so why give it a pussy and all the extra complications it includes in that case?

>>141794591
>Sakura is the canon wife tho

No.

>>141794591
>canon wife
can of worms

>>141794591
>Sakura is the canon wife tho
The fuck you going on about? I love Sakura as well but what is this shit about "canon wife"?

>>141794630
>>141794712
>>141794715
canon waifu
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>>141794742

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>>141794715
The typical delusions of wormfags that make a regular to strong dislike towards Sakura become deep hate. I will call you sakurafag to not group you the same as him

>fags getting triggered to kingdom come by a single word
everytime

>>141794840
Thank you. I hate how they force Sakura to be this perfect character in every Fate thread.

>>141761774
Honestly I have always disliked her since her introduction in the VN. Her sprite felt so fucking uninspired when I read this shit back in 2007. One color palette between eye and hair plus dead eyes that are simple to draw, compared to the other heroines she felt like a side character meant to be forgotten too like Ayako and even she had a more inspired sprite.

>>141794898
Brown Shiki?

>>141794867
It never fails.

>>141794056
>>141793492
She's empty in her insides tho.

I wish Sakura could just shut up.
Her looks are a color pallette swap away from being good, but every single line she speaks is annoying and cringeworthy as fuck.

SENPAI SENPAI SENPAI SENPAI SENPAI, just fucking die.

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>>141761774
>Yesterday great thread about Rin
>Today Sakura's one is a literal bait thread
Everytime. I don't dislike Sakura but sakurafags are insufferable faggots honestly.

>>141795128
but SENPAI is one of the greatest words ever created.

>>141795245
>Yesterday great thread about Rin
Is it archived?
Last good Rin thread I remember is the one from her birthday.
Last good Sakura thread I remember is from 2008.

>>141794085
If you're referring to episode 3, Herc died from Excalibur, Caladbolg did jack shit.

>>141795363
Remember the Fate threads before Zero? Better times.

>>141795535
Nasu clarified in the season 1 BD interview that Caladbolg did kill him.

Ultimately though, it doesn't matter, as Berserker regenerates his lives every three days.

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>>141761774
Why is Sakura so perfect?

>>141795536
Less secondaries, more tolerance, yet DEEN praise is something I'd never want to go back to.

>>141795683
>yet DEEN praise is something I'd never want to go back to.
Holy shit right, it goes to show how backwards /a/ is when it comes to adaptations.

>>141795667
Rider's face be like
>I can't believe I was summoned to babysit this psycho whiny slut, I'd rather go back to being raped.

>>141795683
I don't hate DEEN, though. I thought the 2006 anime was pretty okay.

Their only real tremendous fuck up was the UBW movie.

>>141795774
>Implying dark Sakura cares when she has Saber
lol

>>141795774
She's lucky.

>>141795840
What do you think of UBW UFO?

>>141795894
I love it.

Maybe I'm just not as high strung as some folks, though.

Hell, I'd even say there are redeeming elements to the movie. I'll fully admit its bad, but if I wanted to talk about it critically, there were some things there I liked.

>>141795772
We just didn't know any better and a lot of us were too young to care about many of the things we value now in good adaptations.

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>>141795953
Cool

>>141795953
>I'd even say there are redeeming elements to the movie
Hell yes there are. The voice acting, OST and the animation in the Saber vs Berserker fight were good.

>>141796072
Yeah, that's what I would say. The graveyard Berserker fight is good. Like, if you watch it, I don't think there's anything to really complain about.

I'd also say the whole intro sequence is really sharp. Great music, solid visual, and the energy's really good leading into that "Fate/stay night" title right at the end.

It greats bad pretty quickly, but there were definitely some positives.

>>141796179
>I don't think there's anything to really complain about.
I don't like DEEN's greasy character designs and those blue or purple filters they put in the upper portion of the image in the night scenes, but aside from that the scene was good.
Oh, there's also Archer not using Caladbolg but another sword, but that's a minor detail.

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>>141795774

>Implying that Rider would ever regret following Sakura.

Anon, please.

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>>141796343
Yeah, that was weird. I'm guessing it probably had something to do with him using the real Caladbolg just like, 15 minutes later on Caster. They probably felt it would look off or something, just from a pacing perspective.

Or I don't know.

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>>141796440
She regrets it daily since Sakura is a jealous bitch and prevents her from fucking Shirou.

>>141796583
jealous and insecure are Rin's second names tho

>>141761774
Purity is overrated.

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>>141796623
>Rin
>jealous
>being this desperate

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>>141761774
Only Shirou could handle this much perfection

>>141796771
Taiga lover here but anon, Rin insecurity complex is just canon, not saying justified, but it's always there.

>>141797041
Sakura goes Berserk when she realized the whole high jump thing wasn't her's alone. I don't really see how Rin's particularly insecure.

>>141797041
Rin is canonically less possessive over Shirou than Sakura is, that's all.

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>>141797094
SHE STOLE HER PRECIOUS MEMORY WITH SENPAI, CAN'T YOU SEE???

>>141797212
Sakura struggles only made her victories all the more sweeter.

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I want to father worms of my own!

>>141797345
Sakura's wriggles only made her viscosity all the more stickier.

>>141797391
Just when I thought I couldn't be more jealous of Shirou.

>>141797436
You could have his big cock too

>>141777783
The entire point of HF is that when faced with the choice of saving the lives of people he didn't know and saving the life of someone extremely close to him, Shirou couldn't bring himself to make the objectively right decision because as fucked up as his mindset was, he was still fundamentally human. That was the pretty much the entire crux of HF, and why his steady transformation into an inhuman robot and his final battle with the fully human on the outside yet inhuman on the inside Kotomine were so ironic. It's also the fundamental parallel between Kiritsugu in F/Z and Shirou in HF, though in Shirou's case he lucked out by not living in a world written by Urobutchi.

You actually see him do something similar in an earlier route, too. When Caster kidnaps Taiga in I think UBW, Shirou drops everything to go save her. It's a dumb as hell move, but Taiga means far more to Shirou than the Holy Grail War ever could, and his actions reflect that.

Anyway with that said, you also have to realize that HF's situation is EXTREMELY contrived. Shirou needed to find out that somebody he had come to treat as part of his family was actually suffering the entire time and that she was doing something wrong enough that he'd have to decide between his personal morality and his sense of justice. It's such a ridiculously specific scenario that you can really obviously tell that Sakura was designed just to make it happen.