Concrete Revolutio: A Superhuman Phantasmagoria - The Last Song

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Also, episode 21 will go towards the year Shinka 49 (1974), when the oil crisis hit Japan and the rest of the world during the Yom Kippur war.
Japan will import American War Robots to further increase their control over their rogue superhuman population.

International events are awaiting us.

Perhaps we shall see new variants of the biodestroyer robot.

Staff for this week's episode 20:
>Screenplay
Gen Urobuchi
>Storyboard & Episode Director
Tomo Ōkubo
>Animation Director
Noriko Morishima & Takafumi Mitani

Staff for next week's episode 21:
>Screenplay
Shō Aikawa
>Storyboard & Mechanical Animation Director
Ken Ootsuka
>Episode Director
Naoki Hishikawa
>Animation Director
Yoshiyuki Kodaira, Atsushi Hasebe & Hitomi Odashima

This episode was very "urobuchian", but still made sense in the series's context.

My body is ready.

The episode is now also available on Daisuki.

I still hate the fact that Funimation gets to air it one hour earlier. Stupid timezones.

Hunting Charlie.

Carloco seems to be quite loco.

Master Ultima wants the unlimited potential of the little boy.

anyone got the credit ? Is Yutapon there ?

Next episode, the super robot era commences.
For Justice, Freedom and Peace.

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>It's a Butcher episode

>>141763737
And indeed, people were butchered.

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Let's burn Charlie out of his hiding hole.

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Kill them all.

>>141763997
>[Muffled ride of the valkyries in the distance]

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What is Kikko thinking here?

>>141763997
>>141764098
>>141764135
How much more are nips going to exploit Vietnam ' brutality ' in animu?

When will we get an animu about Nanking brutality? Or comfort women?

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What

>>141760555
Maybe we'll get more fights and relevancy for Equus and that nuclear and plane mode.

>>141764378
He is now become Ashura, destroyer of worlds.

4 episodes left.

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Literally what is this

>>141760555
Actually really surprised that is decided to go to year 49. For some reason I thought it was stay contained in 48.

Are there any events in Japan big enough that the finale could take place there?

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God bless America

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Haha time for justice

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>March in Shinka 43 (1968), Vietnam
G.I. Joe fights against vietnamese peasants using rakshasa tiger masks to turn into tigermen. But Johnny can't take the horror of the war.
>July in Shinka 49 (1974), Yokota Airbase
Johnny runs away, cause he knows what will happen to broken arrows (they get discarded like the space kaijuus), and Jirou and Raito shelter him. Jirou wants to get him back home, but Colonel Carloco knows how to bring back Johnny-boy home the way it is meant to be. With honor. The Colonel asks the Superhuman Bureau to help him, since he knows Magotake, who did work in the Ikuta Imperial Labs. The cyborg programm of the Imperial Japanese Army is the basis of the US Army's Jungle Operations Enforcer elite squad.
Fuurouta contacts Kikko and brings her to Jirou, who tries to urge her to not allow the Bureau to get involved in this affair. Emi overhears the meeting and tracks down Jirou's hiding place with her fox spirit.
Johnny is however very unstable. Being heavily cybernetically modified and having killed lots of civilians, vietcongs and nonhumans, he freaks out at whatever religious icon that shows nonhuman beings.
The J.O.E.s get to their location through the help of the Bureau, but are being tricked by crafty Emi into attacking the wrong door, allowing Jirou and Johnny to flee.
However, it's still the US Army against two fugitives. So the J.O.E.s corner the two, and Johnny starts murdering his comrades, taking their parts to become a death machine and kills random civilians. He is made an hero.
Then, Carloco tries to capture Jirou for Master Ultima, but the Bureau allows him to flee, telling the J.O.E.s that they got Johnny and should piss off. Johnny returns home as a hero, his murderous rampage is blamed on the vietnamese inhuman being, Jirou promises to continue trying to fight for justice, freedom and peace, and the TRUTH, and help prevent the tragic outcome like Johnny.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

GO J.O.E.

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G.I. Joe Action figures now available with guns, hammers, drills.

Joe. A real American Hero.

>>141764633
I laughed so hard at this

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We must get rid of the past to build a new future.

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>>141764633

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Bring me Little Boy.

I didn't expect the Butcher to go for maximum satire.

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Finish him.

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>Punching 2 cyber-niggas at once
Jirou has been lifting.

The General's speech was... Interesting.

>>141760555
I can't wait for Jirou and Daitetsu's battle.

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Seig Zeon.

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>>141764633
>>141765097

>>141765302
Anyone got the episode titles? I thought the Daitetsu episode was 22

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>>141764829
Gotta dash, there's justice to be done!

That lesbian idol chick is coming back next episode

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>>141765401

>>141764378
>No! I must kill the demons
he shouted
The radio said
>No, John. You are the demons
And then John was a cyborg.

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>>141764180
What do you think?

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The United States will prevail as long as there are beings that are not humans as enemies to fight against.
The OTHERS.

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Flimsy quality.

>>141764378
>I finally found what Iiiiii was loooooooking for!

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>>141765529
What is Emi thinking then?

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Inari is useless.

>>141765429
Oh shit! Now this is serious.

>>141765692
>curse those Americans

>>141765697
I like how unapologetic this show is about people dying

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And in the distant future, Z.E.O.N. will use the Psycho Zakku to fight the Earth Federation.

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Hyouma's haremettes will be back.

I don't know where they are going with this, but it seems it is heading into where you have a showdown between the new human (superman) against the old human (ghost and monster) with the new human leading by the new nation of US and the old human keeping low profile. And this is not counting aliens like the fumers, space cops, S- planetian, and possibly Kikko.

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Red is the color of communists and traitors.

Confusing piece of shit with lots of pointless, inconsequential content.

>>141765918
It took me this long to realize I was staring at the Getter-1

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Will Kikko ever be useful?

>>141765933
Really? For me, that was another very easy understandable and straightforward guestwriter episode.

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Taking webm requests, though can't think of much else that's worth a webm

>>141765979
She allowed Jirou to escape.

>>141766027
You have no justice.

>>141766027
Carloco becoming a tank.

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>Piercing a missile with a kukri
The absolute madman

Jonathan Morrell = David Morrell, author of Rambo novel
Colonel Carolco = Carolco Pictures, movie studio behind Rambo movies

>>141766136
Yeah. I suspected as much.

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Dumb Fuurouta.

>>141766236
I bet you anon look like this when you get angry

>>141766136
Colonel's name is Wilder, if that adds to anything.
Wilder Carolco, doesn't ring any bells.

>>141766270
I wish I looked this cute and dumb.

>>141764378
GI JOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEE

Cybernetics eats your soul.

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>>141766078
Here you go
>>141766056
If you want the speech, I'll have to download HS since BudLight is soft subs.

>>141766412
A true patriot.
The United States salute you.

>>141765965
yay, she's back

>>141766236
Is she going to get her witch candidate status back.

>>141765627
Man I hate it when my plastic gets warped.

>>141765097
> close-up on the Colonel's glowing blue eyes when he says this evil line
ConRevo, your imagery is overt and your ballsy-ness noted.

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Progress vs mysticism.
New vs old.
Justice vs freedom.
Us vs them.

Is there no middle way?

>>141766566
>Justice vs freedom.
False dichtonomy.

>>141766566
>Is there no middle way?
Yes, burn them all.

>>141766316
Maybe "Wilder" is a mistranslation of something else that sounds similar?

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Dumb Americans.

Ullr keeps mentioning Hoshinoko no longer being a queen candidate.
Just what exactly does the demon queen title entail?

>>141766566
Seeing the white guys always having blond hair and blue eyes is jarring.

>>141766650
Probably being the ruler of an entire dimension of sorcerous beings.

>>141766687
It's the only way to distinguish them from all those pink- or purple-haired Asians (of which some aren't even humans).

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>>141766634

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>>141766691
Probably, but I think there is something more because Ullr is always saying that, like he was expecting her to be Demon Queen for a purpose, maybe a puppet queen?

Jonathan going crazy was pretty Urobuchi.

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>that blatant hindu imagery

>>141766773
I feel like this is the most facial expression we've ever seen him with that isn't 'pissed off'.

>>141766737
> Purple-haired asians
...actually, what ethnicity is Jiro?

>>141766798
His job was to train her to be worthly Demon Queen, so he doing if because of his lost purpose.

Well. Butcher didn't do good job this time.

>>141766867
Bob-omb

>>141766867
All we know is that he came in a meteor from the sky

>>141766867
Nuclearian or maybe Manhattanian?

>>141766867
He was born from pure justice.

>>141766854
Superhumans are the new gods of humanity in this modern era.
Superman, Batman, Spiderman, the Punisher. The new idols of billions of humans, almost as religiously worshiped as the old figures of the ancient era, like prince Siddartha of India, Joshua the carpenter or the warlord Muhammad.

THE ONLY GOOD YOKAI IS A DEAD YOKAI!

>>141766867
He's a Powerpuff

Created from peace, freedom, and justice, but then Chemical X was spilled into the product to create a perfect justice based hero.

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Unlucky bastards.

>>141766956
He's the robbed justice of Little Boy and Fat Man.

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Sukoneeto bahbbuh

>>141766956
>born from pure justice
>born from pure SEIGI
...that would make him a "Seigian"

So, was this before or after Bug Queen confronted Fuurouta about the whole genocide thing?

>>141767200
After.
Bug Queen confrontation: Year 48
This ep: Year 49

>>141767200
I think it was after that, because the only scene Fuurouta appeared was the one at the temple.

>>141767253
>>141767269
He seemed pretty chill. He joined, or at least is an ally of Jirou now, right?

>>141766825
All Jirou had to do was give him some personal responsibility personal responsibility personal responsibility personal responsibility personal responsibility.

Does anyone have the character references images?

>>141767304
>at least is an ally of Jirou now, right?
I doubt it, I bet he's on his own side now.

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Yokai confirmed for being the niggers of ConRevo.

>>141767304
>He seemed pretty chill
He threw some words at him and then went away immediately.
Not what I would call chill.

>>141767426
He was chuckling when Emi appeared and said he didn't want to take favourites.

>spaceboy appears in both OP and ED
>no fucking trace of him in the show

>>141767502
Soon.

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>it's a murrika is evil episode

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>>141767399
Earth belongs now to pureblooded humans, not pre-human freaks from an ancient era.
The Ascension of the New Man.

>>141767572
>>141767583
Murrica Mind

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So the Cold War is actually a war to eradicate Yokai, and Yokai are a stand-in for commies? What's Russia's geopolitical situation in all this, I wonder?

>>141767572
But they were the good guys in their minds and for their country, How is that different from the reality?

>>141767572
Natives got wiped out because of diseases...

>>141767632
They are the Second World. They are not America and its allies, the First World. Thus, they are the Enemy.

One world under one order.

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I want to protect this smile.

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>Jiro will defend this

>>141767685
Diseases in ConRevoverse were probably replaced by superhumans or kaijuu, if the trend is anything to go by.

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>>141767738
>p-perhaps it was just an accident
>perhaps they just fell on sharp rocks
>and Johnathan tried to help them
>but forgot he had wolverine claws

>>141767734
He's slowly regaining it, never stop believing.

So next weeks the sakuga episode, right? I get that impression from the preview. Also, it looks like it'll be the return of that lesbian Idol, which will be fun.

>>141767906
Also the return of Infernal Queen's members, who were in the Shinjuku riots.

>>141765862
At first I thought we might see how IQ-Jaguar recruits them into IQ in the next episode, but I also think I remember seeing her at the superhuman protests at the climax of cour one. So, are we getting pre-Jaguar or post-Jaguar haremettes? What was their origin, again? Are they supposed to also be former Time Patrol members?

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Foreign yokai are a pest.
Remove outlanders. Make Nippon pure again (with the help of America-sama).

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>>141767899

It's a smug now.

>>141767980
Most likely post-Akira. As for their origin, we have nothing. It probably also doesn't really matter. They're followers of old radical Jaguar's philosophy that Infernal Queen is the sole arbiter of true justice.

Although perhaps their origin might get explained next week.

>>141767906
>>141767940
Next week seems fucking big if the preview is anything to go by.
Probably an event on par with Shinjuku riot that will kick off the endgame.

>>141767980
I hope all those questions are answered in the next episode.

>>141767998
I want to rape him.

>>141768087
The big thing in next week is the Middle East war between Israel and Egypt, which lead to the oil embargo.

>>141767816
Jiro is so cute in this shot

In a universe where Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings never happened you think Japan would have less anti-war sentiments?

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>>141768181
You silly anon, Jirou is always cute.

>>141768191
We still don't know what happened with the fatman though.

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>>141768116

He is a ghost you sickfuck.

>>141768227
I want female Jiro superhumans adventures

>>141768191
Sure. Old people like the Eternal Family reminisced how terrible it was and how the older generations in ConRevo-Japan don't want a new war. The corrupt premier minister who was the descendant of great war heroine Iron Masked Fencer also wanted to eliminate war.
The youth of ConRevo-Japan are fighting against war.

But in a twist of irony, the common desire for a world without wars is one that is fought as a war between conflicting ideologies of different generations.

>>141768259
It's okay. Ghosts are only a figment born from the imagination of humans.
So it's not real if you put your dick in him.

Urobuchi/Mizushima/Aikawa Interview

http://s.animeanime.jp/article/2016/05/20/28601.html

>>141768726

>>141768726

虚淵玄×水島精二×會川昇「コンクリート・レボルティオ」超人鼎談　“虚淵玄にとって正義とは？”

現実の日本とは異なる歴史を歩んだ「もうひとつの日本」を舞台に、多彩な“超人”たちによる饗宴を描く『コンクリート・レボルティオ～超人幻想～』。第2期『コンクリート・レボルティオ～超人幻想～THE LAST SONG』では、豪華ゲストライターの参加が大きな話題を集めている。虚淵玄、辻真先、中島かずきと、いずれも“超人級”の作家達だ。
アニメ！アニメ！では、『コンレボ』制作陣と、ゲストライター陣との連続インタビューを企画。第3弾となる今回は5月22日放送の第20話「終わりなき戦い」の脚本を担当した虚淵玄と、水島精二監督、原作・脚本を手がける會川昇による鼎談を届ける。
アニメ・特撮を問わず、ひねりの効いた切り口で「ヒーロー」や「正義」を描いてきた虚淵だが、今回はどのようなヒーロー像を提示するのか？ 『コンレボ』で描かれる正義をどう捉えているのか？ 話を訊いた。
[聞き手：数土直志　取材・構成：沖本茂義]

■　ほかでは出来ない脚本を書ける喜び

――まずは、虚淵さんが本作に参加されたきっかけからお聞きかせください。

虚淵玄氏（以下、虚淵）
『楽園追放 -Expelled from Paradise-』でご一緒したときに、水島監督から声をかけてもらったんですよね。

水島精二監督（以下、水島）　
ええ。「いま會川氏とこういう企画を進めてるんだけど、もしよかったら一本書かない？」と軽い感じで(笑)。で、よくよく話をしていると、虚淵さんは會川さんと接点があったみたいで。

虚淵
そうなんです。別件でお会いする機会があったのですが、會川さんと互いに盛り上がって、「この勢いで何かやりたいですね」と話していて。それで「『コンレボ』やっちゃいましょうか！」と、そんなノリでした(笑)。

――虚淵さんは、今回の企画を聞いたときの印象はいかがでしたか？

虚淵
最初、水島監督から「ヒーローもので『ウォッチメン』みたいな感じ」と聞いて「どういうことだ!?」って首をかしげたんですよ。

水島
あはは(笑)。

虚淵　
実際に放送を観てみると、「これはとんでもないシリーズがはじまったな」と驚愕しました。脚本の工夫の凝らし方も魅力なんですが、なによりも視聴者への理解力に対する信頼が凄いなと。「ここはご理解いただいているという前提で話を進めます」というスタンスですよね。書くほうとしてもけっこうハードルが高いなと思いつつも、「ほかではできない仕事をできる！」とワクワクしました。


――今回、虚淵さんは一本だけの参加となりましたが、同じゲストライターの辻真先先生のように「もっと書いてほしかった」というのもあったのでしょうか？

水島
虚淵さんの参加が本決まりとなったのは、かなり終盤だったんです。もし調整がついていれば複数書いてもらうことはありえましたね。もともと會川氏と「なるべくゲストライターに書いてもらいたい」と話していたので。

會川昇氏（以下、會川）
今のアニメはどれもそうですが、ゲストライターの方に自由に書いてもらえる回はシリーズの中でごくわずかしかない。「1話と最終話以外は別のライターさんが書いても大丈夫」という体制にできたら理想ですが、現実的には難しいわけです。昔のように最終回で新しい敵がいきなり出てきても許される時代ではないので(笑)。
『コンレボ』の第2期は、シリーズ構成として1話完結を基本としているんです。それには「ゲストライターの方に自由に書いてもらいたい」という意図がありました。

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The concept of older lands being alive, while the more civilized parts of the world are actually dead, is always interesting.

>>141768984
■　“ベトナム戦争”を題材とした第20話

――今回の第20話「終わりなき戦い」は、ほかのゲストライターの方と比べて、本筋や設定にものすごく寄せている感じがしました。

虚淵
それは後発だったからでしょうね。細かい設定や終盤の物語展開などほぼ固まっていたので、「物語も後半なので、この伏線拾っときますね」ということも出来たし、キャラクターのセリフも、後の展開を踏まえたものに出来ました。それと、會川さんのノベライズ(『超人幻想 神化三六年』)のネタを拾ってみたりもですね。

會川
虚淵さんはお若いので、気を遣ってくれたんだと思います(笑)。

虚淵　
いや、それはもう、「あるものは使いますよ」と(笑)。

――第20話は「ベトナム戦争」を彷彿とさせるエピソードですが、それを題材としたのは何故でしょう？

虚淵
會川さん、水島監督といろいろと案を出し合って決めていきました。ほかに最終候補として「ブルース・リー」と「パンダ」もあったんですけど。

會川
年表的に「昭和48、49、50年ぐらいしか舞台にできない」という前提があったんです。そのなかで虚淵さんの良さが活きそうなネタにしようと。僕自身は何を扱ってもらっても構わなくて、べつにブルース・リーでもパンダブームの話もよかったんです。
「ベトナム戦争」については、年表的にベトナム戦争終結のタイミングでちょうど良かったんですが、思想的な問題も絡んでくるし、現代においても多様な考え方があるので「けっこう大変だよ」という話もしました。ただ「帰還兵」の話はもともとやりたかったアイデアだったし、米軍基地が置かれた府中や調布は、僕や水島監督が子どもの頃に馴染み深い地域だったこともあって。

水島
僕は、府中の高校に通っていたんですけど、横田のほうにもよく遊びに行っていたんです。実際に基地に入ったことはないんですが、「フェンスの向こう側のアメリカ」というのはかなりのカルチャーショックでしたね。

會川
20話は、画的な見どころはどうですか？

水島
脚本では、真正面から取り込むとテレビシリーズ的に厳しい描写がたくさんあるし、素直に映像化してしまうとスタッフにも負担がかかる。そこを上手く逃げるための工夫が必要だなと。そこで、絵コンテを担当してくれた大久保朋くんに「邦画」というアドバイスをしたんです。邦画というのは、限られた予算のなかで工夫を凝らしますよね。「カメラはあんまり動かせないけど、そのぶん印象的な画を撮ろう」「全部の段取りを追わずに決定的な画でつないでいこう」など、そういった部分を見習おうと。結果的に、『コンレボ』ではあんまり見ないような印象的なフィルムに仕上がっていると思います。

>>141769029

■　虚淵玄にとって“正義”とは？

――『コンレボ』のテーマのひとつとして「正義とは何か？」があると思います。そんななか、主人公・爾朗は理想を追い求め過ぎて、少し歪んでいるようにも感じる時もあります。虚淵さんは爾朗の正義についていかがですか？

虚淵
たしかに純粋ではありますよね。その純粋過ぎる正しさと、現実との折り合いをどう付けるのかで苦悩しているわけですが……ただ、「正義」とは原則で語るべきものではないと思います。理想と現実とのすり合わせのなかで、その人なりの正義が浮かび上がってくる。そういったイメージです。
すり合わせを間違えた人というのは、はたから見れば歪んでいて「悪」に向かって突っ走っているようにしか見えない……今回の第20話もそういう話ですよね。まぁほかでもそんな話ばっかり書いている気がしますけど(笑)。

會川
これまでの虚淵さんの作品を見ると、爾朗のように葛藤する時期を越えて、“向こう側”に行ってしまった人が主人公として多い気がします。

虚淵
たしかに。折り合いを付け切れなくなってしまったキャラクターは多いですね。

會川
では、今回、爾朗のようにいまだ葛藤しているキャラクターを描くというのは、居心地が悪かったのでは？

虚淵
いや、いつものように“向こう側”に行ってしまった人もゲストキャラとして出しているので。その彼に対する“映し鏡”として、エクスキューズを突きつけるポジションとして爾朗を描きました。なのでそんなに苦労はなかったですね。


――「昭和」をテーマとした作品ということで、虚淵さんにとっての「昭和」をお聞きしたいなと。

虚淵　
僕は昭和47年生まれなんです。『コンレボ』では終盤で描かれる時代ですね。なので懐かしさや情景もあります。ただ、今にして思えば危うい時代だったなと思います。

――危ういというのは？

虚淵
まさに爾朗が抱える危うさと同質なものといいますか……。まだグローバリズムが浸透しておらず、島国ゆえの純朴さで成り立っていた気がするんです。そういう危なかっしさと懐かしさがごちゃまぜになった時代ですかね。
『コンレボ』で描かれる風景は、実生活の名残りとしてありました。その頃流行った家電の型落ちディスカウントが家にあったり。子どものころ『ミクロマン』のオモチャで遊んでいた記憶があります。それぐらいの地続き感はありますね。

――虚淵さんにとっての“超人”は世代的に何でしたか？

虚淵
うーん、強いていうなら『ドラえもん』かなぁ。当時は特撮ヒーローの空白期だったんです。家にテレビがなかった影響もありますけど、ヒーローごっこをして遊んだ記憶はほとんどないですね。幼少期のヒーロー体験はほとんどなくて、小学校に上がってからようやく『ウルトラマン80』や『宇宙刑事ギャバン』が放送されたぐらいで。

水島
そんな年代なんだ。

會川
虚淵さんが幼少期を過ごされた、昭和50年から53年というのは、いろんなブームが巻き起こった時代なんです。『スター・ウォーズ』に由来する「SFブーム」、『宇宙戦艦ヤマト』の劇場版ヒットによるアニメブーム、それから「ウルトラマンブーム」もあって。なかでも子ども文化の「リバイバルブーム」が大きかったわけです。昭和46年にも同じくリバイバルブームはあって、つまり虚淵さんの世代は、僕たちが体験したリバイバルの次のリバイバルを体験しているということなんですよね。

虚淵
だから、頭のなかカオスでしたね。物心つくまで『スター・ウォーズ』と『宇宙からのメッセージ』がごっちゃになっていたぐらいで(笑)。

>>141769069

■　超人を描くということ、多様性が重要

――以前の対談企画で、『コンレボ』をつくったきっかけに「何故あの時代はあんなにもたくさんの超人がいたのか？」という疑問が最初にあったと伺いました。その答えをお聞きしたいのですが……。

水島　
ふふふ(笑)。

會川
現実世界において「何であんなに超人が沢山いたのだろう？」ということに説明を付けるのは不可能なんです。そこをあえて「当時は好景気で小銭を持った人たちがテレビを買いやすかった」「それまでの巨大ヒーローに対して、等身大ヒーローはコストをかけずに制作できたから」と説明してしまうと……。

水島
夢がない！(笑)。

會川
他にもいろんな理由が考えられるし、分かりやすく「子どもをだしに金を稼ぎやすかった」と説明することも出来なくはないですが、べつにそれをこの作品で言いたかったわけではありません。むしろ、超人がたくさんいたことに意味があったのであれば、それをフィクションとしてメタ的に描きたかった。実際、『コンレボ』の世界においてなんでこんなに超人がたくさんいたのかは、ちゃんと説明しています。

水島
そうですね、結末もそこに行き着くようになっているし、僕たちが『コンレボ』をつくった意義もちゃんと提示できていると思います。

――たしかに昭和にはたくさんの超人が生み出されましたが、ここ最近も超人をテーマとした作品がかなり多いです。そんななか、超人をどのように描くのが正しいんでしょうか？

虚淵
「正しい」という考え方でやってはマズイ気がしますけどね。

水島
超人に対する捉え方も見せ方もさまざまで、「ひとつの正しいものを提示する」というのは良くない気がしていて。自分たちの素直な気持ちに帰結したり、僕たちなりの主張を多少作品にのせることはありますけど、やっぱり“多様性”という言葉に行き着いてしまう。
つくり手としては、「確固たる主張を受け取ってほしい」というよりも、物事を考えるひとつのきっかけとなってほしいし、作品で描かれたものを自分なりに紐解いてもらいたい。そういった意識で作品をつくっています。


――あらためて今回の第20話の見どころをお願いします。

水島　
僕は『楽園追放』で虚淵くんとご一緒したし、これまでの彼の作品を観てきたわけですが、それを踏まえても今回の脚本は、『コンレボ』の世界観に上手くハマりつつ、虚淵さんらしいに仕上がっているなと。脚本を受け取った我々も、その魅力をしっかりとフィルムに落とし込むべく制作しています。見ごたえのある一本のとなっていると思うので、ご期待ください。

會川
僕たちは爾朗というキャラクターを、主人公としてテーマを背負わしつつも、「彼が直接手を下してしまっていいんだろうか？」と躊躇してしまい“仲裁者”にし過ぎているきらいがあって。それが煮え切らなさにつながっている。そこへくると虚淵さんは、爾朗をゲストキャラの“映し鏡”として割りきっている。なので20話の爾朗は、ノビノビと主人公然としています。ヒーローらしい爾朗に注目してもらえたらなと。

――最後に、今回参加した感想を虚淵さん、お願いします。

虚淵　
ほかでは類を見ない企画といいますか、チャレンジングかつ志がある作品に参加できたのはとても光栄です。それにこのメンツに加われたというのは純粋に嬉しいです。本当に「後にも先にもこんなアニメはないんじゃね？」と思いますから。

水島　
後にはあってほしいなぁ(笑)。

――本日はどうもありがとうございました！　


Translate it weebs.

>>141768984
>>141769029
>>141769069
>>141769106
I would advise against copypasting entire articles in Japanese, unless you also provide a direct translation that is better than google translate or other machine translation.

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Will Jiro finally understand that super-humans are scum that should be shot on sight?

>>141769183
What are you talking about? That was just the work of an evil foreign yokai.

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That specific dude was fucking nuts after the war, you can't condone all superhumans because of him, if anything the murrikan' government was at fault here.

>>141769183
>super-humans are scum that should be shot on sight?
You're as bad as Jiro.
Super humans just need to be included in the justice system.

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>>141769288
This triggers Rambo.

>>141769365
You are right. New super-humans should shot on sight, youkai & friends can be included in the justice system.

>>141763997
>it ain't me starts playing

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Next episode is going to be Jaguar-centric if it centers on a Bureau member at all, yeah?

Kikko backstory episode when? I already realize it'll come close to the end, honestly, but I just want an excuse to post this excellent new fanart.

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Pity that this episode doesn't have an insert song.

>>141769464
Yes, it seems Raito will also get some focus.

>>141768726
Translate it, weebs

So was this whole episode supposed to be about American imperialism? Because it sure seemed like it.

>>141769575
>we liked doing it
>we wanted to share our views of that era
>please watch it and tell us what you think
The usual.

>>141769608
Doesn't matter, it barely will affect the plot anyway.

>>141766867
Uranium 235

>>141769644
They also talk about Justice, other ideas for the episode were Panda and bruce lee and they also hint that year 50 is the end game.

>>141768994
It's basically saying "modernity" and modernization theory destroyed the old ways and old culture. If you have read his F/Z LN, you know that Butcher really didn't approve of Japan's attempt at modernity that he thought sacrificed the old ways for the new.

Of course he is wrong here imo. Japan has been able to balance the old with the new moreso than many of these other countries that tried the same tactics.

>>141769608
And how they're stealing the land of their true owners.

>>141769658
The plot thread is about Master Ultima wanting Jiro's nuclear potential to solve the worldwide energy crisis.

Looks like the appliance of nuclear energy wasn't invented in the ConRevo-world as a result of no Hiroshima or Nagasaki going up in flames.
>this is a cartoon world with flying helicarriers, alien space ships, Russians flying in space as human gravity-defying space planes, and giant monsters

>>141769608
I don't think so. They are not expropriating japanese land and turning japan into a settler colony. Rather they are selling the idea of modernization, which corresponds to Westernization or Americanization to Western/American ideals in this case (which also includes genocide).

>>141769876
Probably only one bomb was exploded since they seem to know the horror of nuclear weapon in Megashin episode.

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>not wanting free freedom
What was wrong with this people?

>>141769464
Why do Kikko always gets the worst art?

>>141770156
Demon Queen Kikko >>> Regular Vanilla Kikko

I'm guessing the number of times Ullr has been mentioned her means her alternate persona will return near the end.

>>141770099
>Be free or we jail you.

>>141770237
And then she will die.

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Mocking you.

>>141769372
Emi?

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>>141770295

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Is that the A-Team?

>>141760372
>superhero

that term is trademarked. you'll have to call them something else, or else face the wrath of dc's lawyers.

>>141764268
go away grandpa.

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>>141770156
Is this a joke? Kikko, Jiro, and Earth-chan all get the both the best and most art relative to the rest of the cast.

>>141770237
Agreed on both counts.

emi is a bad guy right

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>>141770524
She does have her own agenda.

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>>141770524
Yes.

>>141770576
I'm more of the opinion that she doesn't actually give much of a fuck about Jirou romantically

>>141760372
Who the fuck is still watching this shit?

>>141770655
37 people apparently

>>141770524
She will probably get her redemption when the Japanese governent starts fucking up Youkai´s

>>141770524
She just wants the Youkai to have rights, and get Jirou of course.

>>141770687
I actually just want to see her get btfo

Dark Kikko when?

>>141770099

>>141770815
Perhaps nevermore.
Or perhaps in the finale.
Since Kikko, the witch of Tokyo is quite thematically based on Sally the Witch, let us see what fate would have in store if Hoshinoko would follow in the footsteps of her inspiration.
>In the final episode, Sally's grandma informs her she must return to the Magic Kingdom. Before leaving, Sally tries to tell her friends about her origins, but no one will believe her. Then her elementary school catches on fire, and Sally uses her magic to put it out. Her powers thus exposed, Sally's time to leave has finally come. She waves farewell to her friends, and returns to the Magic Kingdom.
>Being so popular in Japan, mostly the same way as classic Hanna-Barbera characters are in America, a second series was produced 20 years later. The second series continues a few years after the original ending, and finishes with the Original video animation Sally the Witch: Mother's Love is Eternal, in which, at the end, Sally finally becomes the ruler Queen of the Magic Kingdom, but worries about leaving her friends behind.
I highly doubt that this is going to get an OVA for Kikko where she becomes true ruler of the magic world, though.

>>141770815
Now never. She forever will be dumb busty girl with magical powers, chasing some guy's dick.

>>141766376
Surely there is some Joe with multiple appendages.

What's the deal with Jirou still claiming to be a normal human?

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>>141766236

>>141771705
Why would he stop?

>>141771705
I have such a love/hate relationship with how mysterious all these fuckin characters are. It's cool how they let you piece them together but at the same time I just want episodes devoted entirely to each their backstories in one go.

>>141771867
What does Emi smell like?

>>141771870
At this point it's just a very obvious lie since he actually uses his powers.

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>>141771705
As long as he feels that he cannot save superhumans and give them rights and freedom and make them live a good life, he does not believe that he has the right to call himself a true superhuman, despite having a nuclear dragonpunch and piloting a transforming car that only listens to him.

Keep in mind that his idol and inspiration was the great Rainbow Knight, who turned out to be just a dude with two guns, a grappling hook and a bike. He wasn't even Batman. He was just a dude in a costume.

Jirou feels that he's not even half as awesome as that dude, so he won't call himself a superhuman yet.

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>>141771992
Smug and jealousy

>>141772044
I think the jealousy part is not true. She's swimming in the Jirou's dick unlike the dork purple-haired witch on her right.

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>>141765918
How much you want to bet that this is powered unwillingly by a superhuman? They mentioned the submarine by name this episode, so it feels like foreshadowing to me.

>>141771705
All humans hold the potential within them to have powers, which is the secret of Rainbow Knight that Akita and the Professor kept. Thus, "superhumans" are actually just humans, and so Jiro calls himself human but calls people who choose to use their powers in a way that comports with his ideal of a hero of justice superhuman.

>>141771992
Rotten fish

>>141772091
Woah, I'm glad that this is simply not true.

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I'd love to see more of Emi/Kikko working together.

So i guess we'll be getting more Master Ultima in the next episodes
I dont want it to end. One more season please

>>141772078
jiro doesn't seem too happy with her

>>141772121
Pick one

>>141772122
>One more season
>it takes place in present time with new cast

>>141772152
That might be true but I doubt she'd be jealous of the dork witch.

>>141772200
she tried to forbid him from talking to her ever

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I wonder if /toy/ would be able to help out with naming which of the J.O.E.s is which G.I. Joe character.

>>141772299
I'd say the same to my husbando. Doesn't mean I'm jealous of her I just don't want him to spend time with a dork witch.

>>141772332
Emi pls go

>>141772087
>How much you want to bet that this is powered unwillingly by a superhuman? They mentioned the submarine by name this episode, so it feels like foreshadowing to me.
That is a bet that you'll win easily. It would be foolish to do otherwise.

So, Jiro is basically a personified atomic bomb right?

>>141772332
Emi getting NTR'd will be fun

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>>141772332
I don't really think there's a word for that other than possessive jealousy, anon. "Incredibly insecure about her chances of winning the Jirob owl" is the only other description that fits her behavior.

>>141772426
Yes. He is the Little Boy, who holds the infinite potential to mankind's future, and is either its greatest triumph, or the greatest threat ever.

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>>141772408
Well the other option is that it's willingly piloted, like Equus or Raito's former mech that I can't think of the name of.

>>141772489
How can she be insecure about her chances of winning the Jirobowl if she's his girlfriend already?

I don't know about right now, but before Jirou left the Bureau he and Emi were in a relationship.

>>141772565
Would you ride Equus?

>>141772583
sibling relationship

>>141772583
I'm reasonably sure he explicitly referred to her as his ex this season. Give me some time to go back and check (unless someone else knows the scene I'm thinking of).

>>141772654
This is not true anon

>>141772565
Hell fucking yes, I would!

>>141772662
I agree with you on the ex part so you don't need to look for it. But she won the bowl once she sure as hell can win it again.

>>141772565
Arcus drained the energy of its superhuman host. REX-FE requires Daitetsu's metalbending powers enhanced by the superhelmet, and is still rather clumsy. The American transformation tank in this episode requires cyborg soldiers who willingly cut off their arms and legs so that they can interchange weapons and fuse with the armor.

Equus so far seems to be Jaguar's masterpiece, customfitted for Jiro, who probably can power it indefinitely because he generates unlimited electricity thanks to the sealed kaijuu inside his left arm.
Your typical superprototype.

However, the biodestroyer wasn't too shabby, and could hold off its own against the Superhuman Bureau.

>>141772700
meant, of course, for
>>141772615

>>141772711
It's not winning the bowl if you don't do it for good.

>>141772758
Wouldn't controlling Equus be too hard?

>>141772816
It's actually impossible to pilot Equus unless you're Jiro.

>>141772844
What the fuck this is like racist to the rest of humanity

>>141772844
Or fatman.

Did he die when he detonated?

>>141772615
I want to marry Equus. I want to ride his big, cold, steely Equus cock.

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This was an episode.

>>141772864
Get your own fucking kaijuu in your nonfapping hand.

>>141772909
This was a great episode.

>>141772931
Jiro pls go

>>141772884
We strangely don't have any information regarding Fatman and the fate of Nagasaki.
Perhaps seeing that Hiroshima didn't explode, America cancelled their plans to nuke Nagasaki.

Who knows, perhaps Fatman is still rotting in a box in a forgotten archive where the ark of the covenant is sealed in a wooden box, together with other precious treasure.

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>it's an Urobuchi shits on Burgerland episode

>>141773091
It wasn't really shitting on Burgerlandia but a superficial interpretation.

>>141771705
He might have a super something sealed in him. Japan loves that stuff.

I find it cute how they're not calling it the Vietnam War, but the Mekong Delta War.

>>141773541
Well they aren't calling WWII by its name, either.

>>141773091
Not really it was more about technology and progress vs spiritual things and tradition. The jab at idolizing evil powers was also interesting.

This episode was so fucking american

I was expecting Emi to show up at the showdown

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I want more scenes with Kikko in a towel

>>141774066
Would you enjoy her being in a towel every night applying some beauty stuff before she heads to bed with you?

Fear will keep the rest of humanity in line. Fear before their new gods, the new superhumans, who shall guide them through terror and death. More cruel than the old gods. For everything understands pain and terror.

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>>141774157
Don't fucking remind me.
>mfw no Kikko gf to worship every night

>>141774212
Jonathan pls go

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>>141774157
Only if we hold hands and cuddle

>>141768994
I guess europe would still have that "smell".
Just not America because "300 years old country"

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>>141774259

This episode was very Urobuchi, in the sense that it felt a lot more like stuff that got him the butcher title, compared to some of his recent stuff. Granted I suppose he didn't actually write half the shows with his name slapped on to it from the last couple years. Despite all that though, he still did a good job of fitting it into the world and themes of ConRevo. Overall pretty good episode.

Also, is Master Ultima the fucking president now?

>>141773792
It was about A Real American Hero.

>all the J.O.E.s had doll joints like real toy soldiers
Easily discarded and replaced.

>>141774724
>Also, is Master Ultima the fucking president now?
I think Master Ultima is "only" the main thinktank of the US Military's intelligence services.
Being one of the highest-ranked military officials, he probably still holds tremendous power second only to the president himself.

>>141774833
Why couldn't they had this season be at least 20 episodes or so with all the events going on, and going to year 49 like that.

>>141775163
20 episodes of solo events would be way to much and clutter the timeline. You can tell by the way they speak that Jirou sees the Bureau a decent amount. A majority of the show would probably just be mundane investigations/arrest.

>>141774724
I would say the episode is closer to recent Urobuchi stuff, writing pieces that fit the narrative the director is planning.
The Taiwanese puppet thing is more like his old self, full of self-indulgence.

>>141775300
I'm having trouble figuring out what Kikko did in the fight, by the way. What was that, a leaf gale.

>>141775560
Didn't mean to quote.

>>141775560
Sure. It allowed Jiro to escape, and also doused the flames on the Joe-mecha.

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Emi was cute this episode.
Also did anyone think that Fuurota was a bit harsher this episode?

>insane murder machine
>kills random civilians
>NO DON'T HURT HIM
>HE'S A SUPERHUMAN SO IT'S FINE

Jiro is insufferable at this point.

>>141775709
He's probably thinking about what good deeds he so far did after the revelation that he committed one of the largest acts of genocide in history, and is starting to become more cynic.

>>141775771
It was all the government's fault.
It's always the government's fault.
All-Ways.

Hyouma looked kind of weird without his scarf this episode.

>show has fun characters
>makes the plot about anything except them

>>141776310
What? You didn't like the love-child of Rambo and G.I. Joe continuing his eternal war and slaughtering shit?

>>141776310
That's the one thing that really bothers me about it, too, the characters feel more like people who orbit the character of the week rather than being the stars of their own show.

>>141776428
For most of the cast, we did have their character focus episodes already, and/or their motivation what still makes them do what they do.
Also, the guest writer episodes will rather focus on the characters of the week, because they cannot unleash some kind of hitherto groundbreaking plot twist. That's Aikawa's job.

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If Kikko is fueled by happiness, does that mean her Kikkos are literally filled with hopes and dreams?

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>>141776641
Yes.

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>>141776641
And Demon Queen Kikko's Kikkos are filled with loyalty of her subjects.

>>141776428
I normally end up liking the character of the week, or at least their story so I'm fine with it. The episodic superhero stories are part of what I love with the show. Either way though, it seems like we're getting back to the main plot next episode, and this may even have been the last standalone episode.

>>141776641
>After the final battle Kikko breast-feeds nearly dead Jiro back to life

>>141765965
yes yes yes.jpg

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>>141772565
>Single horn and Valkyrie-ish helmet
>Turn into 2 flaming horns and a ponytail
Never noticed how the two forms are somewhat complete opposites of each other.
One is a heroic traditional style, while the other one is pretty much what you get when you think of the word savagery.

>>141777594
You have to make it deep. Something related to re-birth or something.

>>141774749
I believe that was the intent of the augmentations.

So that when you lose an arm or a leg, and there's a fallen comrade nearby you can interchange parts and go back in action.
Something that was shown perfectly in this episode.

>>141777638
Make him a baby-Jiro? That would be too sad for Kikko. Spend 8 years chasing guy's dick and asquire baby peeker in the end.

>>141777615
Why are wild scarves so great.

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The best concrete, there is no other.

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>>141770099

>>141778516
Kikko makes me concrete

>>141775709
>Also did anyone think that Fuurota was a bit harsher this episode?
Being responsible of murdering an entire race of bug creatures changes a Ghost.

Did the US literally create a super unit called JOE?

LOL

I love how Jiro coats himself in his flames

>>141769608
silly american.
the japanese are the imperialists.

>>141772489
Why does that look like a doujin cover.

>>141782028
The nips haven't fought in a war for 50 years so I doubt people will agree with that statement.

>>141760555
>Skimmed ConRevo Japanese website for info on next episode's plot
アメリカからスーパーロボットＮＵＴＳ
"The Super-Robot NUTS from America"
...WTF?

>>141764633
>>141765097
>>141765356
>>141766412

Picked up.

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>>141782384

>>141779279
My thoughts exactly

>>141770032
This.

>>141782953
There's a lot to watch and it's not the most marathon friendly.

You've been warned.

>>141770032
>Rather they are selling the idea of modernization, which corresponds to Westernization or Americanization to Western/American ideals in this case (which also includes MANIFEST DESTINY).

>>141779989
>>141764983

It actually ties in nicely with the timelines, the first GI Joe toys were produced in 1964. Hell, the joints from the guys are basically the same points of articulation on old Joes.

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>>141783168
I dunno, I found it quite nice in marathon format when I was rewatching to hype myself up for cour 2.

>>141783168
Actually, I think this watches better as a marathon rather than every week, since you can easily get lost when they reference past episodes.

>>141783310
Why don't they just make a civilian model with a big dick and back problems and two normal arms that stay put?

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>It aint me starts playing

>>141760372
Master Ultima vs. Kikko-enhanced Jiro in Equus is endgame, right?

>>141767685
>Natives got wiped out because of diseases...
I didn't realize the Trail of Tears or the Indian Wars were diseases.

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>>141783916
I'm not sure. I mean, they've been tracking real world historical references pretty well so far, and Ultima getting beaten would symbolize the end of American ideological hegemony. So, probably not. Ultima will just be foiled, is all. Jiro and the Bureau vs. Master Ultima and his legion of martian kaijuu would be sick, though.

>>141784055
biological warfare. ndn yokai btfo.

>>141783916
>>141784136
Jiro vs. Jiro endgame or we riot.

>>141784055
The native populations got wiped out because of new world diseases, colonists were able to push them around because only a fraction of their initial numbers remained.

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>>141784055
Do you really think either of those killed anything close to a majority of the native population? Maybe those were the finishing blows, but the diseases brought over from the Old World were far more effective killers. Granted, sometimes the spread of said illness involved deliberate biological warfare on the part of the English, but it was still disease than either of those two much later events.

>>141784241
>>141784295
Did you learn this revisionist history in your homeschool hugbox?

>>141784340
I learned it at my liberal public school faggot.

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Damn, kikko looking mighty fine here.

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>>141784424
Excellent loop.

>>141784340
Does it sound like I'm saying the atrocities of the Trail or the Indian Wars weren't atrocities, faggot? The fact is that diseases such as smallpox spread faster than the colonists did and thinned native populations such that they were too decimated to put up enough of a fight. The same thing happened the sophisticated agricultural civilization that used to span the Amazon. Sorry if you don't like historical accuracy.

>>141784442
>liberal public school
>handwaving away agency in genocide
Yep, sounds about right.

>>141784596
see
>>141784580

>>141784580
>muh diseases
It sound's like you're saying that smallpox deserves the blame for a multigenerational campaign of genocide. Like all we did was mop up so really who's to say what's wrong or right?
It's weak and ahistorical.

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So much FREEDOM in one episode. Bones confirmed for bros.

>>141784580
You should probably stop posting. Here, read this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics#Disease_as_a_weapon_against_Native_Americans