Magi

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Top smug.

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What would they need to do to server Al-thamen and Arba's connection to their world? I mean even if they kick Arba out of Hakuei's body she could just go for someone else, same for her followers.

I kinda want to see how she reacted once she realized she was trapped in an alternate dimension/void after Solomon sent her there. She couldn't have taken it well.

>>141643441
fuckin hate that bitch,simbad must have all planned to banish her from existence
remenber this

When is this shit going to end

>>141644395
When your mum stops sucking my dick.

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>>141644434
mom jokes

>>141644275
Nah, as long as she stays helping him he has no intention of removing her i imagine, he uses anything and anyone who'll help him. And she's a crazy devote follower of David because he fused with god, so he's using that to his advantage.

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>>141643441
Magi has the best coloring in the industry

Here's my final battle guesses.

Aladdin vs David
Alibaba vs Sinbad
Hakuryuu/Kouen vs Arba
Some kind of alliance between Kou, Kina and Balbadd vs the IA
Baba abd Kouen's households vs the Eight Generals

>>141644103
This nigga, cant wait to see him talking to himself about MUH FLOW when the good times ends.

>>141643441
I can't believe there are no Haku/Arba hate sex doujins yet.

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I'm calling it now, Magi will end with a Shaman King style ending. Sinbad gains access to the sacred palace without killing Alladin but they convince him not to bind the ruhk to his will. He then spends the rest of his existence guiding humanity, rather than dicking about like the Magi do.

>>141646100
Sounds like complete shit.

>>141645929
Fujos are like the only ones drawing Magi doujins anymore. I can count the number of artists who regularly do straight pairs on one hand, and they're either Fishfags or Morfags.

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Around Jews, you lose.

>>141645405
His fall from grace will be a long and hard one; and I shall laugh when he hits the ground.

>>141644556
But he should understand well that she can not be trust. Arba is Illah's fanatic follower, but she also harbor an immense hatred for David ever since Alma Torran. For all we know, she could see David possessing Illah as the most blasphemous act and intend to kill both him and Sinbad, but since she still isn't their opponent, she's secretly preparing her plan in the dark, just like the last time in Alma Torran when she rebels against Solomon.

>>141644829
Nah, it will be Aladdin+Solomon+the world vs David. He is too based to be challenge by any individual.

>>141646100
But Sinbad isn't a mothercon, noway they can convince him like those nigga did with Hao.

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>Ohtaka’s Backstage vol.305

>“This week, we’re continuing the event from two years ago.

>Magi is a manga where the characters grow older, and so, I worry about the changes in their outward appearance as I draw them. Alibaba was ‘dead’ for a while and didn’t change much. As for Aladdin and Hakuryuu, I was thinking whether they’ll grow to resemble their relatives, and when I drew them for real they turned out different than I expected. They resemble them, but their personalities are different, and so their facial expressions.

>The Sinbad anime is still airing, and I hope you’re enjoying it.”

>>141647996
Whose waiting for a classic Alibaba face once he actually meets with Aladdin again? I can almost expect Haku to be smug about being taller than Alibaba,too, you know, after the whole "Sorry for killing you" thing.

>>141647994
Yes, he is. Did you read spinoff

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>>141647996
>Fish checks up on Alibaba when he's sleeping
That's so cute. I expected nothing less of best girl.

I wonder if Sinbad has the same type of ego that Gilgamesh has.

>>141647914
David is ONE with Illah, he's not simply possessing him if she goes against David, it would be the same as going against her own god. Her devotion to Sinbad is most likely real.

>>141648231
Sinbad doesn't have the mind of a jobber.

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>>141648093
Nah, Haku will brood and beg for forgiveness like a bitch. If he acts smug or like it was no big deal, he'll honestly have wasted all the character development he got so far.

>>141648231
Sinbad isn't the type to hold back against anybody. He belives in his own vision a little too much though.

>>141648301
She can try to defuse them and destroy David's consciousness.

>>141648306
Don't bring your buzzword bullshit into this thread faggot.

>>141648306
True, but with all the stuff he's seen and done over his years alive just like Gil that ego is well founded especially when during almost his entire life he's been told how special and awesome he is and like Gil the sole person to keep them humbled died long before they did. That princess who shit talked Sinbad's ideals would probably be completely disappointed if she were alive and saw that she was 100 percent right about him.

Do you think Arba ever chose someone to be her husband, gave birth to a daughter, transfered over her consciousness then fucked her husband again in her daughter's body before killing him and choosing a new husband?

>>141648358
I can's see any reason he should ask for forgiveness. Who must he ask for forgiveness anyway? Definitely not Alibaba, who is selfish little bastard who loves to mess up others' business, nor Kouen, who is a warmongering maniact who wants to kill him.

>>141648418
And go again her absolute god in the process? Aside from possibly being capable of fucking that up, trying to remove something from him would be acting out the way Solomon did when he forcibly removed it's Rukh and shared it with the world.

She'd just be doing something akin to what she hated the most. Besides, since they're now one being, doing that would be a direct act against it. She's a mindless devote, she didn't give a fuck that it was going to rule their fates, or destroy everything otherwise, so she won't do anything against David having fused with it.

>>141648259
Holy shit. It's better than DBS

>>141648486
She can't be dissapointed if he just proved her right.

Who's to say he's not directly responsible for his own kingdom's downfall anyway?

>>141648486
One difference. King Pikachu never lost hard like Sinbad probably would in the spin-off. I bet he death of Seredin and his other comrades taught him something about being humble.

>>141648504
He ASSUMED that was his intention, while Alibaba simply wanted to remind him of what he cared for so he could see a better solution to the problem, and not just march into his land and kill thousands just to free the country.

He realized this later, and even contemplated suicide, even if briefly. He's a little spoiled shit. The best part was him getting mad at Aladin for fighting back against Judal and sending him forever into space, and getting sad for it, Aladin even went as far to say sorry, meanwhile he laughed at having killed Alibaba, only to feel bad about it later.

He's anything but right.

>>141648513
The thing is, David forcibly possessed Illah for his selfish reason and made it something completely different than the original Illah. If Arba were to separate them, she merely restores to glory of her god and banish the usurper. I mean, would you worship Satan if he possesses God?

>>141648575
>Being humble
>"I am literally the chosen one and can't be wrong"

He didn't learn jack shit. Aladin had to talk smack to him and hurt his feeling because he was right. He's just an arrogant bitch now. His intention may not be inherently bad, but the way he's going about it is just repeating the same mistakes from the past, which will make everything go to shit once more.

>>141648617
Maybe he isn't right, but neither anyone else. There's no one who have the "right" to forgive him.

>>141648690
To be fair, he has David to back him up now. He literally the chosen one.

This arc is dumb because Sinbad has already achieved world peace through the miracles of consumer capitalism and globalism.


He doesn't need to do anymore.

I wish magi had had a communism arc and done more with the al-thamen = learned elders of zion themes from early on.

>>141648712
Even if he doesn't ask for forgiveness, he'll most likely go "yeah... sorry" at minimum. I honestly want to see Alibaba a little pissed off, but he's way too pure so i don't know.

>>141648756
You're retarded

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>>141648757
Like this?

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>>141648748
What if the whole "loved by the world" business, isn't just David's influence to make Sinbad his pawn from Birth? Both magi and mogamett sensed his birth due to the influx of Rukh being driven towards him, so he's clearly special, but i feel like his entire life is being driven by David's influence.

>Sinbad wants to force his will of what's right by changing Solomon's will
>TFW he finds out he was the one having his fate decided by David his entire life

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What moments are you guys looking forward to being animated?

>>141648843
Yeah something like that. Both are pretty edgy too, so it works.

>>141648849
>Having one's entire fate driven by a god
Anon, that's the very definition of a chosen one.

>>141648902
Now that i think about it you're right. But we both know being David's "shining start" is hardly what you would consider good.

>>141648843
>>141648878
Fuck off

>>141648756
Sinbad already achieve a peaceful world now, but it's a democratic world. He wants to create a theocracy with him being its god emperor.

>>141648756
He understands things are going towards the path of absolute peace not really since some people are getting fucked over and are being basically forced into assembling to him and not being able to be independent.

What he wants for real now, is to change Solomon's will, most likely making it impossible for certain bad thoughts from forming, or stuff from happening, which is akin to brainwashing, which is why Aladin is against it, since he's trying to enforce his own vision upon the world, and take away free will.

>>141644221
Belial.

>>141648925
God is above and beyond good and evil, you see. We can't use human morals to judge a god, otherwise people would say the Abrahamic God is a genocidal maniac.

>>141649052
Wouldn't that just server hers? Or is she the one opening the bridge for everyone else to form their "thoughts" on their world?

>>141648757
>I honestly want to see Alibaba a little pissed off
Good luck with that. Getting fucking killed isn't enough to piss him off and getting screwed over by the man he idolized since he was a child is no sweat off his ahoge. He'll probably pat Haku on the shoulder and tell him he's sorry that he had to go through so much.

But I really want to see Alibaba sock him one before that.

>>141649058
Said god was also dying, he was hardly absolute. The whole theme is that they fought against god for free will, and succeeded, until Arba tried to fuck everything up.

>>141649101
He probably will, and when he's on the ground he'll most likely extend his hand towards him and help him up and then they'll go on their way helping each other.

The problem with the free will that Solomon wanted is that not everyone wants to be "free" in that way. Solomon wanted everyone to be free of Illah's will but by doing so, he's denying those people that were believers and wanted to continue that system. So they started shit up to reclaim what they wanted.

Should have chosen something like the matrix. Those that want to continue living under the machines in paradise, let them. Those that want to go out, give them that choice too.

>>141649123
>Said god
I'm talking about David.

>>141649221
In a way, doing that is also giving then free will, since they choose to be guided by destiny. They only managed to rebel BECAUSE Solomon gave then free will.

Also Arba was a nutcase. If EVERYONE isn't following her god's will, then it's not a correct world.

>>141649123
It wasn't just Arba, everybody immediately got pissed off at Solomon because as they saw it, he just replaced David and fucked them over more than David because Humans weren't the sole users of magic anymore, Sheba's breakdown along with Arba's manipulations made it even easier to paint her and Solomon as David 2.0. Through to be fair to Solomon, he didn't have the chance to debate with his comrades, he had to do it now or the world would of been fucked, it's just a shame that he forgot that human self preservation can very easily trump the belief in your comrades, your friends, your love and even yourself. I guess you could actually call that arrogance in a sense.

>>141649158
It'd be cool if Alibaba has secretly been getting more and more pissed off as the time goes by, but keeps it bottled up because he knows he's a source of morale for Kou, and he just flips and takes all his agression out on Hakuryuu when he sees him.

>>141649325
Couldn't he have just told everyone after the fact that the world would have ended if he hadn't done anything? Although like you said they would most likely not want to hear it.

>>141649325
>he didn't have the chance to debate with his comrades, he had to do it now or the world would of been fucked
How so? He decide it on a whim. It's not like if he didn't immediately take Illah's power, the world will be doomed, he could go back and talk with his comrades to read a mutual agreement, but didn't because he believed his own decision was enough, even after seeing Arba's hard protesting.

>>141649468
Haku alredy suffers a lot of mind torture after he fucked up.

Remember his brother's smile when he healed both his legs and missing arm? He knew he was fucking him up by being kind before his death. Doesn't have to be physical.

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>>141649325
Well Aladin did tell everyone that he doesn't know if Solomon was right or not, or if he was evil or benevolent, and he's right. His abrupt decision may not have been the best one long term.

I still prefer free will myself, if i knew i was set for a destiny which i couldn't fight i'd be angry.

The problem i'm thinking of now is, didn't Ugo stated the world needed a king? Which would be decided with the metal vessels. In a way, Sinbad would be allowed to change the will in that case correct? If he ends up winning that is. Also if Aladin doesn't wish for Solomon's will to be overwriten by Sinbad because it would be the same as enforcing his own vision upon the world, but isn't that what Solomon's will is doing? Even if it is free will, it was still something that happened because Solomon wished for it.

Although i guess you could argue that i it wasn't for that will the current wouldn't wouldn't exist.

Fuck meant to reply >>141649363 with >>141649518

>>141649281
>In a way, doing that is also giving then free will, since they choose to be guided by destiny.
Exactly. It's like that old "choosing to not choose is still a choice" thing. Choosing to not be free is a choice made out of free will.

>They only managed to rebel BECAUSE Solomon gave then free will.
By cutting off the path to what they wanted and that's what I'm pointing out. Which is why someone should have also opened the possibility of letting them continue with the old system while also giving them the choice to follow the new system.

It's why I mentioned the matrix. The machines had to first be convinced to giving people that choice but once that's done, people had the possibility of going back to their utopia or continuing to live in the real world.

>>141649696
Maybe a punch and then heartarming smile from Baba is just what he needs to be fully healed.

>>141649221
But the problem with what Sinbad is proposing is that he thinks his will should be held above all others. He doesn't seem to understand that people are fundamentally different from each other because of the different regions and cultures they grew up in. Forcing one individual will on the world is the exact opposite effect from what Solomon wanted, but it will lead to the same result in the end: Discontent amongst the people, and eventual rebellion.

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BEST GIRL

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Thread is ded as fuck. Time to give it the old IV drip.

>>141655864
rollan

>>141655864
I got fish last time... Can I roll her again?

>>141656208
Close but no dice.

>>141656208
Don't worry, anon, I'll roll her for you.

>>141655864
Rolling for fish

>>141655864
Fish GET

>>141655864
FISH.

>>141644103

This is why I love Sinbad. Just admits it like that, no shame at all. Completely self assured.

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>>141648933
>him being its god emperor.

Would you worship Sinbad?

Is Aladdin going to end up with anyone? Isn't he suppose to end up with a princess?

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>>141660040

Aladdin a pure.

>>141660040
Marrying a princess is practically obligatory for main characters in 1001 Nights. There are even versions where Ali Baba marries a princess.

>>141660243
But Alibaba already has the slave/princess waifu combo. Aladdin kinda needs a waifu.

>>141660040
i actually assumed hakuei was going to be magi's version of badroulbadour when i first picked up the series. guess i was wrong.

>>141660908
I thought Hakuei would do more.

>>141655864
It's literally impossible to roll a 9 on these. I don't know why fish is even listed.

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best boy

>>141659738
Sounds like a spoiled child to me.

>>141655864

Fishget?

>>141662009

>spoiled child
>dirt poor
>dad died
>sin worked himself at manual labor
>mom got sick and died

Very spoiled, yah. Arrogance =/= spoiled.

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How did /a/ react when Haku killed baba? I wasn't around for the shit storm.

>>141660136
I wanted more of this, fuck this story kind of went to shit.

>>141660040
There is always Judar for him.

>>141663921
It was set up to follow this route from the start though. The whole Solomon's wisdom and Sinbad's half fallen soul was already setting up to it.

I personally find it pretty fun to follow. But if it was just a normal adventure series it could be entertaining too, assuming they could keep it interesting.

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If at first you don't succeed try 5 more times and it will work.

>>141664942
Fuck off this isn't happening. Arba will barbecue those kids.

The last chapter i read was when alibaba returned to his nation just to see it different. Where am I?

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>>141643441
What kind of logic is this

did aladin just pulled remember the 6 gorillions? Is he trying to outjew sinbad?

what

>>141664942
What's the fifth attempt?

>>141665058
Nah she'll be dead by the time this happens.

>>141666017
twins count as 2

>>141665851

Sinbad tries to argue that his mistakes and the problems that have happened in his life only happened because DESTINY and do not reflect on his ability to be a flawless superflowking, while Aladdin says that he's actually just human and wrong sometimes.

>>141666462
But none of what Sinbad mentioned was his fault and sinbad can't mean that as it would mean all he accomplished meant nothing as it wasn't actually him

>>141655864

Mor is the cutest.

>>141666663
literally 1/10

>>141666572
In Sinbad's mind, it was his fault because he didn't do X or wasn't strong enough.

Sinbad thinks everything good can be attributed to him and everything bad can be attributed to "destiny"

>>141655864
Let's see

>>141655864
once again, i created that shit and as such i demand fish

>>141655864
who is 4?

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her fucking face here

>>141667855
Isn't it the mage girl who works for Sinbad? The one who trained Aladdin and was also Mogamett's adoptive daughter?

>>141667989
>I wish David would stop being such a puss and just rip the will from him by foce already
>Oh well, it's god's will, so whatever

>>141648093
Alibaba doesn't even care about Haku.

>>141662914
Noting at all.

>>141667389
Isn't it just simply a narcissist person?

>>141662511
He is literally the reincarnation of God and has been guided by destiny since he was born. He's been spoiled rotten his entire life.

>>141667989
>Aladdin needs to become strong enough to take down Sinband and Arba.

This is fucking bullshit. Oh yeah and his two side buddies, Alibaba and Haku.

>>141673652
What are you talking about?

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>>141671110
>Noting

If I watched the anime, should I skip to whatever it covers or read from the start?

So is there any sub for Sinbad anime?

>>141655864
glubglub.

>>141674489
FATE CANNOT SHACKLE ME AHAHAHAHAH

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>>141674537

>>141663957
But he is a peasant, not a princess.

when is the new episode of the animu released? been waiting for almost 5 hours

>>141672127
Narcissism probably does have something to do with his desire for absolute power. Sure, being able to see the flow of destiny is a big deal, but by no means does that give him the right to be the sole arbiter of the entire world. One man dictating other countries' policies and cultures is pure megalomaniacal delusion.

>>141655864
Serendine fag reporting for duty.

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>>141665851
All the other events like the desire for royal blood, relationships with people, knowing what happens when a KV dies, slavery and so on match up but something must have happened between the slavery and present time to get him to forget the lessons he's already learned. Either that or he's forcing himself to believe it even though he already admitted he's not special.

>only 1/3 of manga left
>lets focus on economics
>no one likes cool battle

Magis def going to end up canceld

>>141678632
>cancelling the second/third most popular series in the magazine

>>141678697
>replying to a retard

What if Seren returns from her grave and kicks Sinbad until he gets David out his system?

>>141679199
Then you'll hear the complaints of thousands of fangirls and fujos complaining that their husbando/OTP is ruined. Him being a playboy is okay but the very thought of Sinbad being seriously romantically involved with with a girl or anyone other than Jafar drives a lot of them crazy.

Since Zepar is on his ring, would be cool if it was supposed to be their engagement ring or something.

>>141648542
Like it is hard to achieve ...

>>141679199
Arba will be looking for a new body after Hakuryu kills Hakuei, you know?

>>141665851
Destiny bullshit has always been the weakest part of Magi. That's not new.

>>141665851
Sinbad is clearly the one in the wrong here.

>>141684208
>Sinbad
>wrong
KEK.

>>141684534
He is.
Your fanboyism doesn't change that.

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There is no one better to rule the world other than Sinbad since magi's are incompetent as shit and Solomon was a faggot who half assed it.

He knows what the actual world is like unlike these kids.

Can't wait till alibaba bullshits his way of knocking sinbad out .

>>141674394
Check after Alibaba defeats cassim, since after that some changes happened that differed from the manga, the major one being how Alibaba fell from grace while viewing the girl's past, and the fact that the snake never bit Alibaba and bit Haku instead, and Sinbad never once struggled with the curse placed on him.

>>141682868
Destiny doesn't rule anyone anymore, they're only led to belive that, but otherwise no is bound by destiny anymore.

The main problem is that Sinbad is the reincarnation of David's will, and because of that he may have led a life full of things that happened in his favor, so in a way he' being manipulated from birth. If he'll break out of that train of thought and accepted that he has no right to enforce his will on the world then he will escape that.

>>141684774
He pretty much rules it already, the problem is he wants said rule to last even after his death, pretty much enforcing his views on the world, and taking away free will.

>>141655864
Fish please.

>>141666017
He fucked Fish so hard that they had twins, that's why they do count as two.

>>141664942
What's going on there?

>>141686689
Someone's fanart of BabaFish's kids.

>>141686711
>Fanart
That's canon, anon.

>>141686949
Stop confusing the others, Jim.

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>>141655864
Fujo edition.

>>141685093
Sinbad can literally see the flow of destiny.

So regardless of whether destiny is guided by someone or not anymore, it's still very clearly a thing that exists.

>>141689837
If the destiny is not free will now then how can people fallen into the depravity

>>141689901
Falling into depravity simply means not wanting to go with the current flow.

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>>141689901
Falling into depravity isn't as horrible as others make it seem, Haku showed that, the problem is that Al-thamen can control those people and use then as weapons, which is why they're dangerous and bad for the world. Without then, falling from grace wouldn't be as major of a problem, unless the person died that way, in which case he wouldn't be able to go to the place most of his family is most likely waiting, and would instead share his existence with a bunch of angry souls.

>>141689837
Isn't the flow just how the world if moving forward? It can be reshaped since Solomon allowed for free will, so it doesn't have to be something that needs to be followed 100%.

Besides even if he is aware of it, he is way to arrogant to think that his wish for the world would be accepted by everyone, would it prevent major bad stuff from happening? Sure, but it would also be gateway of black Rukh for Al-thamen to use. Not to mention would be akin to brainwashing, aka no free will.

>>141690059
The problem is if the white rukh represent free will then go to another flow is acceptable thus the rukh shouldn'd have change color as well because black rukh is not free will, isn't it?

Isn't solomon was following Ill ilah flow when he decided he will become the new God, then wasn't it Ill Ilah decided that Solomon will become god because the black rukh have no free will, that mean, it all follow the black rukh flow all along
Then is chaging every to white rukh was Ill Illah flow too? Then how come everything is not black rukh
Fuck i'm so confused right now

>>141690418
I think it's like the others explained, it's actually cursing your current fate, and getting angry at it. What you do after that is up to you though, you can work towards changing it, the thing is, those people are clearly willing to do anything to achieve it, and most likely working out of spite, as shown by Haku's actions, especially when he saw Alibaba as a manipulator who simply wished to get his way across no matter what and then killed him, only to regret it later.

It's basically a unhealthy way of going about your life by being filled with negative emotions, the thing is Al-thamen will most likely use you for their schemes.

>>141679199
It's Celendine now, apparently.

>>141690677
Solomon belived he was simply amassed power with no proper will, who simply dedicated how things would go about.

It only became black and tainted after David fused with it i belive, so maybe it allowed destiny to be more flexible and allowed for Solomon to be able to split it's power for the world, since David was clearly trying to take over.

>>141679199
Why would she? As much as she reprimanded Sinbad for turning on his country to start his own, and calling it selfish, she forgets that her own empire forcefully tore people out of the streets to join the war, made their lives harder than needed with taxes, and tried to grab people from Sinbad's village to join on the basically suicide mission of going inside the dungeon, and after that they lost against Barbarossa which shows how weak they were despite they harsh demands on the people.

Sinbad did only work towards his own ends, and he could have helped drive Barbarossa away as to at least secure friendship with his kingdom, and possibly help then make the life of his fellow villagers and those others who they ruled more easy, but instead he ran off on then all.

Basically both of then fucked up.

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>>141688634

>version without numbers

Senpai pls.

>>141690826
Wait, wasn't because of David keikaku that Solomon can become god?
And i remembered that the rukh is always black, only Ill Illah is originally white but drained slowly by the Alma Toran people that it become black.
Time to reread i guess

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This is such an retarded argument.

For one, a bloodline doesn't inherently make it so that the king will be a good person, maybe he grew up to be twisted and not caring for those below him, making him a poor king, thus tarnishing his bloodline's name.

It's true that if the past king was good and his proceeding sons/daughters come to rule, they will be most likely trusted much better than a new face, but that doesn't automatically mean it will be good.

Also why can't a king be a good leader? it's true that he has to give off an image of being good and kind and can leave other matters of his own country in the hands of others since he can't handle all of it alone, but to simply want said king to be nothing but a symbol is a little stupid. "Be complacent and just sit there looking good".

Also the fact that the first few kings did not have the luxury of having said "royal" blood. Everyone was on equal terms, so they had to choose someone, or they elected themselves to guide the rest, but otherwise they didn't have anything like a bloodline name.

Her only decent argument was the land one, because hoping to find proper uninhibited land, while possible, is not something that can be chosen on a whim, he needs a proper location that is not dangerous and can set proper trade routes and allow for visitors without having to rely on let's say the dark continent's land like she said, which would be nothing short of idiotic. Him feeling the blow after that one i can get, but why did he flinch at the whole blood argument? Sure, he may not be as trusted as someone from the bloodline of a good king, but he can earn that trust with hard work, which he did in the future.

>>141691643
That's not what she's saying, pal. She's stating a king is symbolic and has a bloodline to legitimate his claim. She's not arguing if the king is good or bad, she acknowledges that with leadership (which doesn't have anything to do with kingship).

>>141691201
Rolling for best boy (9).

So what happens if a metal vessel user is killed? Can his vessel be claimed by others without having to face the dungeon again? Or will it return to a dungeon needing to be claimed once again?

Was it ever stated would happen to then in that situation?

Maybe I've missed something. Aren't Arba's goals still the same as Al Thamen's, despite now being unaffiliated? Arba and Sinbad's alliance still doesn't make much sense to me, considering he's still considers Al Thamen his enemy.

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Do you think there will some sort of revelation in Sinbad's adventure manga that will correlate with something that happens in the main story?

I'm also curious as to what happens with Sinbad's waifu. I kinda don't expect then to suffer any major blows against Barbarossa, so who knows, that is if he follows her proposition to marry into her family.

>>141692051
Their symbol will leave the weapon and they will return to the dungeon to be claimed again. However the strange thing is that Sinbad said he can't give Alibaba back Amon because it's illegal for anybody to have metal vessal or a djinn with them now. He made Dungeon hunting and clearing out lawed so I assume most people who couldn't outfight Sinbad surrendered their djinns peacefully. I mean, Fish doesn't have her djinn anymore either.

>>141692142
He'll rock Alibaba's clothes better than Alibaba.

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>>141692123
It's complicated. Basically they both do indeed have the same goals, with Arba being the major leading force they have and basically their leader. The thing is, Arba only wanted this because she wanted her god to be there in the new world which was created by rejecting him in the previous one.

But, since Sinbad is basically the reincarnation of David's will, and David became on with said god, she views him in much higher light now, serving him is basically serving her own god.

What the fuck happened to Al-thamen anyways? If she has indeed cut ties with then, and is working only for Sinbad, they must have suffered a major moral blow considering the one that led then is now sucking Sinbad's dick. Or maybe they understand it since they all worship the same god, and her working for Sinbad is now what they wish.

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I forget, weren't the survivors from the old world sent to the new planet which would be created with Solomon's will? How come nobody outside of the Djins and Aladdin know what happened in the past world? Was it a request from Ugo to never talk about it or pass on the knowledge, or were their memories wiped?

>>141692276
Huh?

>>141692465
The Toran tribe remembers and still keeps records and historical documents. Every other tribe lost their language and history with the change.

>>141649664
>I still prefer free will myself, if i knew i was set for a destiny which i couldn't fight i'd be angry
Only if that were your destiny. Maybe you wouldn't give a shit, because all your choices before and after would still feel like yours, and destiny led you to accept that reasoning and shrug the whole issue off.

>>141692737
That depends on how flexible destiny in that case. It seems like destiny in the magi world is a lot more flexible than one would be lead to belive, but if someone overwrites the will they will most likely remove that flexibility, just like how Sinbad wants.

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>>141692568
Anon is probably referencing this.

>>141692787
Lel, that's pretty creepy of Yunan.

>>141692787
I still find it weird that no matter how serious the situation is, there's always that one moment where everyone goes full jokester mode and makes the dumbest/silliest faces ever

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I love Magi. No matter what anyone says, I fucking love it with all my heart and soul.

>>141694245
I don't see anyone else disagreeing, it's just that the story turned much more serious and full of market talk and economics so it turned off some people from it, but i still like it myself. Besides i don't think the whole economics phase will last long considering Aladdin and Morgiana may be coming back.

>>141694245
I'm with you anon.

>>141694464
Same. I'm just sticking with it until it ends right now. Might drop if Sinbad dickriding gets any worse.

>>141694464
Personally I'd rather have fantapolitics and economics than the usual string of endless shonen battles. Haven't we got enough of those in other manga?

>>141694600
True, some people just don't like the idea of authors moving outside of what was normal for the story, which is a little weird since the story was already full of political talk and schemes.

>>141694599
What do you mean? Sinbad was always the big guy who gets his way no matter what, though any means necessary, the main focus is on him now especially since he basically rules the world now, there's no way he won't get focus in some way.

>>141694600
Yeah but it shouldn't be front and center up all the way up through the end though. I liked the fights and the character interaction, but I sure as hell didn't pick it up for "Alibaba's Capitalistic Adventure".

i like the new stuff, but I wouldn't be able to stand it forever.

>>141694800
It's only a phase of the final arc, it won't be all the way though it, we saw some fights in the form of flashbacks, the thing is Arba is just too strong for anyone alone to put up a good fight, maybe Sinbad could but it's no in his interest to stop her, only to use her.

With Morgiana and Aladdin's return you can bet some things will change.

Did Amon get sent back to the dungeon? If so we'll probably get another dungeon diving segment.

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>>141694600
Dunno, I feel like it isn't it's strong suit. Sure, it is interesting, but it being the focus is really not interesting nor motivating to read, even Shounen try to add things like murder mystery and whatnot, but focusing and going in depth with it starts becoming boring unless you like that. Pic related.

>>141694750
I understand that Sinbad is perfect and godly and perfect and everyone loves him and perfect and scheming mastermind and whatever, and that he is the focus because he is perfect and everybody loves him and he is unique and has unique powers and is perfect. But after hammering that 30 times and making sure you know he is perfect and everyone loves him and he is unique and he can see the flow of Rukh and is David incarnated AND is perfect, and that due to being perfect he is going to succeed due to everyone loving him and him being perfect and unique and seeing the flow of Rukh, it gets annoying to read.

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>>141694245
Preach

>>141695037
Anon calm down. Aladdin just talked smack to him about his plan of getting his hands on the wisdom being wrong, and Sinbad got clearly upset about it, he's not perfect, he's just REALLY good at making his plans work, but not all the time.

Plus he's morally grey since he thinks the end justifies the means, and wants to enforce his will on everyone. He's not perfect.

>>141695125
Was that arrow really there before translations? I mean it's kinda clear she was the one who did it, does Japan think their readers are retarded?

>>141695221
It's a joke dude.

>>141659738
I don't think he even realizes there's anything to be ashamed about. You can see him thinking long and hard, knowing Aladdin sees something wrong in this line of thinking, and Sinbad's struggling to figure out what that is. But he just can't figure it out, so he's like "Well yeah, what of it?".
It's hilarious.

>>141695289
I guess i just don't see the humor in it then.

>>141695174
I'm trying to emphasize how I feel every time Sinbad is appears. It's tiring and non-interesting. I understand that he is not perfect, but right now it doesn't feel like there will be any interesting development, just waiting till Sin find an indirect way to obtain Solomon Wisdom and unite with the Rukh and manipulate world while everyone deify him harder than Solomon. My only hope is that Arba/David pull another Alma Torran, grievously wounding Sinbad heavily while killing everyone he cared and reversing everything he did while he watches.

>>141695379
You think he would notice what was wrong if he was seeing himself act like that? He seems like the type who wouldn't want to be bound by someone else's rules, so him being completely fine with enforcing his own rules on everyone else is nothing short of hypocrisy.

Even if he himself does not realize it.

>>141693701
I used to have problems with this myself, it often happens in FMA too (like, interrupting a fight to talk about your ex girlfriend's boobs).
But then I read One Piece.
I don't have a problem with this anymore.

>>141694245
Same desu. Alibaba's also my favourite character. I don;t get why people shit on him so much,

>>141695466
>You think he would notice what was wrong if he was seeing himself act like that?
Yes, he most likely would.
>so him being completely fine with enforcing his own rules on everyone else is nothing short of hypocrisy.
>Even if he himself does not realize it
Exactly.
Adventure of Sinbad being released at the exact same time as these final arc chapters gives so much depth to the story. We can enjoy Sinbad's hubris in all its glory.

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>>141695550
Alibaba is an interesting change from the usual shonen MC. He is neither a complete loser nor a super-talented special snowflake.
Up til now, it feels like he is the "common man" caught amidst a battle of bigger and more powerful forces.

He's also gotta have the worst luck with ladies out of any protagonist, jeez, what is wrong with this guy?

>>141695645
I'm just afraid that Ohtaka's very real love for her husbando will make her put him above all the other characters at the end of the story.

>>141695697
Will he burst into tears of happiness when fish or Morgi finally confess to him? Poor guy was so thirsty to get some he was always complaining and being grumpy about it.

>>141695720
Ohtaka wouldn't make him morally ambiguous and clearly upset at Aladdin's implication that even he can be wrong if she didn't intend for him to take a huge fall at some point.

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>>141695697
Alibaba's very existence soothes my hard boiled celibate heart.
I feel like less of a loser thanks to him.
Thanks, Alibaba.

>>141695720
She has been showing him in an increasingly bad light. She's not going to turn him into a Gary Stu of that I'm certaing, but being Ohtaka's husbando Sinbad will probably be spared a humiliating defeat. He'll come back to his senses or sacrifice himself heroically at the end.

>>141695523
>But then I read One Piece.

What do you mean by this? I've only read like a dozen chapters, up to where nami and shark crime head guy are.

I dislike the interruptions to the mood. It seems like the author cannot commit to being dramatic, like cowardice.

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>>141695550
>>141695697
I think Alibaba is the best character in the whole series. Sue me

>>141695907
I often see this juxtaposition of comedy and drama in manga and anime.
Like, there's a serious battle scene and suddenly one of the characters does something silly and everyone goes EEEEEEEH?!
Maybe it's a cultural thing.

>he'll come back to his senses or sacrifice himself heroically at the end
Jafar will kill him, Sinbad will come back to his senses seconds before dying, then Jafar will kill himself and many doujins will be written.

>>141696042
You think his friends/followers will still try to fight for him if he does explain what he wants to do fully?

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>>141696042
Jafar is irrelevant now, didn't you see how he's being dismissed by his husbando at every occasion?

>>141696027
>>141695907
Mood interruptions are something you get used to. In One Piece it happens so often you end up not minding them anymore. You actually enjoy the fuck out of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIQJ4i00OoE

>>141696129
It's called foreshadowing.
The growing rift between Jafar and Sinbad will lead to disastrous consequences later on.

>>141696117
Depends, I'm still not sure where Magi is on the sliding scale of friendship/idealism versus cynicism. I want to say they'd fight for him anyways, and yet I can see his generals (particularly those who run their own country and have their own people to think about) betray his side at the last minute.

>>141696129
Ja'far in black, Sinbad in white, this is the last time they spoke as friends.

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Isn't being a Djinn waiting on a master kind of a shit deal?

>Stuck in the ruins of your old home, nothing but lifeless halls and structures
>Having to make devious traps and challenges for people who enter, possibly killing many innocents in the process
>Most of then probably never even had anyone come to claim then
>All to find a possible king that will rule above all

I mean they agreed to Ugo's idea real quick because they understood i was to realize Solomon's ideal world, but even then they looked rather distressed on having to be placed in there for god knows how long, most of then were pretty nice people too, so i imagine that making people die in order to provide a challenge isn't the greatest of feelings.

I wonder if they were awake for the whole time they were in there, or if they go to sleep and wake up once they sense someone has entered their dungeon.

>>141695645
>Adventure of Sinbad being released at the exact same time as these final arc chapters gives so much depth to the story. We can enjoy Sinbad's hubris in all its glory.
I think the same. Seeing the lessons he's learned as a kid contrasted with what he is now is pretty nice. Can't wait for the moment his first kingdom dies in SnB since you just know that it'll happen alongside a big reveal in Magi.

>>141698322
Perhaps his kingdom getting destroyed will be what makes him half fallen?

>>141698441
Wait, I thought that was already confirmed? Or maybe I'm now confusing theories with what actually happened. I can remember him saying he absorbed the black rukh of his entire kingdom, similar to what Judar did.

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>>141643441
fuck i missed out on a magi thread

>>141655864
Cmon FISH

>>141674402
yeah

How long is Sinbad's manga supposed to run for anyway? It's already at least 1/3 of the main story in number of chapters right?

>>141701653
I'm guessing it'll run as long as the main story does. Ohtaka will probably make the events in both coincide. When Sinbad finally goes full bad guy in Magi, we'll see how he becomes half fallen in SnB or something like that to explain how he is in Magi.

>>141695697

He should pick better friends.

Cassim a shit.

>>141702268
Anon you know better than i do that he'll end up forgiving his murderer when it was entirely his fault for going full Darth Vader on him.

Alibaba is too pure not to forgive people, even those who shat on him first.

>>141702353

Both of his friends, Cassim and Hakuryuu, tried to kill him and Cassim betrayed him like three times in a row.

Poor baba.

>>141702446
Cassim was kinda shitty had a more understandable circumstance as to why he did such things, Haku on the other hand was just acting like a child, and only caring about "muh revenge".

I'm surprised Morgiana didn't deck him in the face at least once after it happened.

Is there any prediction for the return of the anime?

>>141702639
probs a year after sinbad no bouken

Do you think the author set it up so that Sinbad's side manga ends when he's taken out of the story of Magi? Because that'd be kinda cool to see Sinbad's start and his end around the same week.

>>141704844
I think it's more likely that we will see some revelation that will coincide with what happens in the main story.

>>141704844
I hope sinbad no bouken ends with Ja'far writing sins final chapter or something. In a david esque style

>>141702446
I think Aladdin is the only friend Baba has who has never tried to kill him or screw him over at some point. Even Morgiana tried it.

>>141705663
That was before they were friends tough.

>>141705805
She still tried to kill him. Even his own household wanted him dead when they first met.

Dollars to donuts says that Alibaba will meet his friends again via being princess carried by Morgiana like he last time.Even better if she does it in Fanilist form and Alibaba pets and snuggles up her.

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>mfw i could translate 306 from jap to english but don't

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>>141706067
Sure, faggot, I believe you.

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>>141706331
sub 1 min

>>141706461
Is that is, senpai?

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>>141706461
those arba tits

>>141705365
Nigga, this ain't Sherlock.

>>141708425
that shit would make a sick ending. Either that or the same happening to alibaba but with aladdin writing it. Or even better, the same thing happening but everyones stories into one with Ugo writing it and he titles it 1001 nights

>>141709809
That'd be interesting, since the three most famous characters from 1001 Nights are Aladdin, Alibaba and Sinbad.

>>141702527
>I'm surprised Morgiana didn't deck him in the face at least once after it happened.
Her reaction to Baba's death was very poorly written.

>>141643441
Bump

>I'm a special snowflake so give everything to me
Is he serious? That's literally autism territory.

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>>141644641
Ohtaka is one of the best authors in circulation with the coloring.

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>>141717451
yeah man her colouring is fucking supreme

>>141717451
The only thing that bugs me with her coloring is that sometimes characters end up having completely different hair colors from what I expected. E.g. Morgiana having magenta hair instead of black and Hinahoho having blue hair instead of red (his hair screentone used in the manga is usually reserved for red-haired characters).

>>141718980
yeah i feel you on that. I always thought hina had red hair and was kinda shocked when i saw it in the anime
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>>141719039
Ohtaka can't into screentone coloring.
Pic related, Alibaba's dress thing is freaking black in the manga.

>>141706461
For a guy that's been redeemed and all, Hakuryuu sure is ruthless.

>>141719519
You can't redeem a retard, anon.

>>141706461
Translate the final page.

>>141690684
>it's actually cursing your current fate
Actually, it's cursing the fate decided by white rukh, meaning Solomon's will. In other words, saying falling to depravity is bad is no difference to saying defying Solomon's will is bad, and all "good" people with white rukh willing slaves who have no problem living under Solomon's tyranny, which made Al Thamen rebelled in the first place.

>>141692356
Maybe it is now leaded by some other Sinbad's comrades, like Falan?

>>141695697
But he isn't the MC, it's Sinbad.

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>>141722195
Go away Sinbad, you already have your own spinoff manga to show off in.

>>141722021
What tyranny? White Rukh is literally free will.

>>141722328
>White Rukh is literally free will
Yeah, a "free will" that was forcibly imposed on people by Solomon without their agreement. Al Thamen didn't try to fight "King Solomon's tyranny" for no reason.

>>141722328
if it was free will why would people ruhk turn black? how can you turn against free will

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>>141722500
Already said this before but if it wasn't for said free will they wouldn't even be able to fight back against him, Solomon could have wished for a world like Sinbad's and impose his will and remove any trace of rebellion and any chance of people turning bad, instead he gave everyone the chance to choose their own destiny.

It was implied that if he didn't do anything the dying god would have taken the world along with him right there.

>>141722328
No, it's not. It's Solomon's will.

>>141722278
>The protagonist of the prequel and the sequel isn't the same
KEK.

>>141719264
Man, i thought that Alibaba's dress was Red or Green but nooo Yellow is both White and Black too

>>141722663
You're dumb.

>>141722629
Which was a will to let everyone decide their own fates.

>>141722804
yeah i hoped it would be green

>>141722278
Now that i think about it, what would Young Sinbad think if he saw himself now. Not just the world CEO, but actually be able to see how he's currently acting and scheming.

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>>141722891
14 year old sinbad would probably be disgusted as he hasnt gone through the hardships of losing his friends and countries once

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>>141722804
>>141722862
I thought it would be something like this.

>>141722809
>Babafag
>saying anyone dumb
You must be very smart to like a cuck, then.

>>141723037
>>>/v/

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>>141723025
>>141722804
>>141722862
Literally everything looks good on him.

>>141723586
I like the red best. It looks the most cohesive.

>>141723820
Yeah, given his blond hair and gold eyes, red is probably the color that suits him best.

>>141666572
Him getting enslaved was his fault. He got too cocky and got buttfucked in a legal tournament. We haven't seen Parthevia get BTFO yet but it's probably his fault too.

>>141722891
I thing that young Sinbad would approve of the economics stuff, but he'd definitely try to stop the megalomaniacal plans of his current self.

>>141655864
any of them except 8

>>141666572
No him becoming a slave was his fault.

>>141724449
>not wanting eternal roman empress loli

>>141724741
>Eternal

She's dead anon

>>141724841
She lives on as a loli ghost in Titus.

>>141722555
That's a good question. but is black ruhk really that bad? Cassen and Princess girl only died because of their black metal vessels rather than dying from the black ruhk completely and if Haku is any indication, having it isn't demental to your health nor your mental state. It's not some super magical evil juice that makes you edgy, it's you. White and Black Ruhk is all the person and Aladdin finally realized that.

>>141724872
Yeah Aladdin knows it's not as bad as he thought it was, the problem is Al-thamen can use those people for their own gains by creating black genies and such, so it's still a dangerous thing to allow yourself to be consumed by.

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So, who are arguably the 10 strongest characters in the series up until this point?

>>141724997
It's kinda hard to pinpoint, but Arba is clearly at the top, she can use the equivalent of extreme magic likes it's nothing. Sinbad is clearly second place i imagine. The others are all around similar in the power level scale.

I don't know about Alibaba since he now has slowdown mode, but no vessel, so we won't know just how useful his slowdown would be against a strong opponent.

>>141724872
It's not bad without shitters using black rukh to bring an ancient god to their world.

>>141725087
Eh, Baba has always been kind of a scrub anyways.

>>141725087
Solomon might be able to beat Sinbad.

>>141725216
Well he wasn't born special so it's normal, he was growing stronger at a good pace.

Haku only really managed to kill him off because he was willing to let both his legs get chopped off for it, while Baba just wanted to subdue him. If he had the intention of killing Haku i think things would turn out different.

>>141725331
>Solomon

But he's dead anon. Do you mean Aladdin? Any of Alma Torran's main trio would probably curbstomp anyone in a 1x1 fight from the current world.

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>>141725341
That makes me think, at the level he was before being killed, who could Alibaba beat in a fight? I mean, he was obviously stronger than any fodder, but I don't see him being able to keep up with say, any of Sinbad's generals.

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>>141717451
Some of her volume covers are really nice.

I wonder who will be on the next one? Baba again?

>>141725624
>Pink hair instead of black
She got me again.

>>141725624
My bet is grown-up Aladdin.

>>141643441
Its almost sickening how BEST Sinbad is

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>>141725624
She had such an unfair end

>>141725764
>Best
>Throwing his toys out the pram because Aladdin won't give him a free pass for being a special snowflake
Yeah, nah, he's a bitch.

>>141725381
>But he's dead anon

I know, but I thought we were talking about the strongest characters in general.

>Alma Torran's main trio
>main trio

Wat

>>141725613
>at the level he was before being killed, who could Alibaba beat in a fight?
Maybe Kouha, or Fish in an arid climate? His ass is grass if he were to fight her near the sea, though.
And he could probably take out Sinbad's generals or any other household member if he used Extreme Magic.

>>141726050
By that i mean Solomon, Sheba and Arba. I guess Ugo was pretty focused on too, but they were the big powerful magicians right?

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>>141726091
Solomon and Arba would beat anyone in a 1v1, but Ugo and especially Sheba are not that powerful.

Can't help but love the fact that this series is ''95% /biz/ and 5% /pol/ the manga''.

>>141726571
nah i think it's a 35% /biz/ and 55% /pol/ with 10% of battle shounen and maybe some /his/ too

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>>141726710
Well, yours is also fine.

>>141726710
>http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1682534
>>141726571
It only had any /pol/ during the baldadd and magnostadt arcs.

which is a shame. the /pol/ parts were the best parts.

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>>141724997
Alive and dead:

1. Solomon
2. Arba
3. Sinbad and David (tie)
4. Aladdin
5. Judar
6. Matal Mogamett
7. Every Magi that was alive during the Alma Torran arc
8. Titus and Scheherazade (tie)
9. Junan
10. Alibaba

>>141728186
Alibabas ability puts him above Solomon.

>>141729272
>implying that Magi's and Metal Vessel users wouldn't crush him despite his speed
>implying they don't possess a similar speed level themselves
>implying that taking out normal humans means he's unbeatable just because of his superior speed and reaction time

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>>141729272
Slow down there, while his ability is useful as fuck, we have yet to see him have a proper fight. At least wait until he gets his weapon back.

>>141729832
>Introduce new ability
>Literally 100 years thinking
>Super speed and perceiving movements
>Not useful against powerhouses

You're being delusional if you think he's not going to have a major advantage. Metal vessel users were fast, but they weren't mind readers/perceived the world in slow motion.

>>141725624

Why does ohtaka make so many red or pink haired characters? Bad enough all the kous look the same, but then the fanalis also have red hair, and also sheba and celendine?

I like black haired Sheba better. It's moe. >>141725858

Best girl, worst end. RIP, but that's what you get for choosing worst boy.

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>>141729962
>You're being delusional if you think he's not going to have a major advantage

No, it is a massive advantage. Against humans or Fanalis he'd win, because his abilities far outclass him when it comes to close quarters combat.

But when fighting a Metal Vessel user or a Magi who doesn't specialize in those things, he's probably screwed. How could he dodge or survive a Bararaq Saiqa from Sin for example? Even if he's incredibly fast and has an amazing reaction time, that attack still moves at lightning speed while the regular humans Alibaba fought don't compare in any way.

>>141730208
>Bad enough all the kous look the same
Are you retarded?

>>141730208
The worst part is that of every character you mentioned only Celendine and Kouha don't have black-colored hair in the manga.

>>141730221
Which is why i told the other anon to wait for a proper battle to happen to judge it. We don't know if that's the full extent of it.

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>>141681500
>inb4 Hakuryuu forces her to possess him and seals himself
>tfw that's why Belial was introduced

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>>141719519
>>141719854
>talking shit about Haku on ch306
Oh boy you guys must be feeling so embarrassed after reading the entire chapter.

>>141730878
Nope.

>>141731485
It's okay

>>141695697
Alibaba is the reflection of the author being tumblrwhale

>The nicest guy in the whole series
>gets mocked for being a virgin and is rejected by every woman
>And no matter what he does, everything ends up bad for him

>>141731940
That sounds more like /r9k/.

>>141731940
Are you retarded?

>>141732027
Well yes but he's written by a woman and this is clearly done on purpose

Alibaba's suffering even became a meme in these thread

>>141655864
calling 7

>>141732157
Witnessed.

>>141732148
Is this your first piece of fiction or something? It's just a classic 101 writing trope. Beat the hero down and make him an underdog in order to garner sympathy and support from the audience. Tumblr and other shit has nothing to do with it, this kind of storytelling has been around for centuries.

>>141732359
except not.its not that he gets beaten by stronger opponents or anything, he gets humiliated in over the top situations by literally everyone over and over to please the sadism of the female audience.

Even when they get him drunk the author makes him wine about women

>>141732742
>not.its not that he gets beaten by stronger opponents or anything, he gets humiliated in over the top situations by literally everyone over and over
That was my point, I wasn't talking about battles. Again, this is nothing new and doesn't pertain to the sex of the audience reading the story. This is a universal writing convention. Give the hero a likeable personality, make the world beat him down, stack the odds against him - hey presto, you got yourself sympathetic underdog who the readers are naturally inclined to root for. I'll reiterate, this has been an established mechanism in fiction for centuries.

>>141733003
>his is a universal writing convention. Give the hero a likeable personality, make the world beat him down, stack the odds against him - hey presto, you got yourself sympathetic underdog who the readers are naturally inclined to root for
This doesn't work when the hero does unheroic things. magi doesn't have highschool setting where the trope could work

The fact that the author is female also supports my claim. I doubt a male author would even make him care or cry when he gets rejected or pursuit women at all, men don't really care about that aspect of a heroic character, its more about the convictions and ideology and if they did go that way they wouldn't portray him as being absolutely pathetic

Even when sinbad was mindbroken in his own comic they didn't make him do humiliating fetishistic shit despite they could have and a good chunk of the audience would probably have loved it

>>141733566
What do you mean unheroic things? Alibaba isn't a complete goody two-shoes sure, but he's clearly a heroic character based on the heroic things he's done in the past like, like saving Balbadd. And no, the author being female is not a good basis for your claim. Look at Polnareff form JoJo, for example; he cries many times throughout Part 3 - and he tries to chase women and gets humiliated on a regular basis. He's written by a male author and is a nigh-universally beloved character amongst the fandom. Sex has nothing to do with that.

Like Polnareff, Alibaba's hardships are sometimes depicted in a comedic fashion, like the boat chapters or his time in Sindria, The intention there is just to attach the audience to him more, since naturally people enjoy things that make them laugh.

And obviously what Sinbad went through wouldn't be done such a way, those events play an integral role in forming the character we know in the main series, and the most recent English chapter expresses that by making those events a part of his motivation for the goal he has. That's a different issue altogether.

I'm running low on time right now, so this will be my last post for a few hours. If the thread is still up I'll try and reply to your next post.

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>>141732742
>to please the sadism of the female audience
Yeah, because I'm sure enjoying Alibaba abuse is a female only occupation.
Get your head out of your ass kid, for your own sake.

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Is there anyone else who considered the Alma Torran arc to be the best arc in this manga? Might be a shot in the dark here because apparently this arc was disliked by many and I think Shinobu rushed it because of that reason.

>>141734462
>What do you mean unheroic things?
Crying over women and being mocked for being a virgin and keep getting mocked in every comic relief situation. He can whine but most of his suffering is caused by external things to him ,its the author mocking him . Again even the posters here agree he gets too much shit.

Alibaba isn't a complete goody two-shoes sure, but he's clearly a heroic character based on the heroic things he's done in the past like, like saving Balbadd. And no, the author being female is not a good basis for your claim.
yes but , i don't know how to put it into words... when you introduce such elements that must be inherent to his conception of thinking then his ideals and way of thinking become tainted. it would be like Batman killing people under certain circumstances.

>Look at Polnareff form JoJo, for example; he cries many times throughout Part 3 - and he tries to chase women and gets humiliated on a regular basis. He's written by a male author and is a nigh-universally beloved character amongst the fandom. Sex has nothing to do with that.
jojo is incredibly shallow, all that makes a character be is to be able to fight and be ready to die, the rest of the qualities are purely cosmetic so it isn't much of a deal.

>And obviously what Sinbad went through wouldn't be done such a way, his motivation for the goal he has. That's a different issue altogether.
Why? cause he is the blue prince women are supposed to like, he can't be debased like the nicest virgin guy

Any of the other characters would make a better MC desu

>>141734656
anecdotal evidence is not an argument

Am I the only one who thinks that the Magi were the most recommended and weak creatures of the manga?
They have a power not earned with their strength and just block the magic to kill them.

>>141735949
Can still kill (just about) every species with their prowess.

>>141735236
Crying about his romantic situation isn't unheroic. It's not exactly heroic either, but these are scenes that are played for laughs and nothing more. What you don't seem to realize is that Alibaba is both a heroic character and a source of comic relief in the series. Maybe you think that way about him because a character like that is not that common to find in fiction. But that's what he is. Him lightening the mood of the manga doesn't equate to him not being heroic.

What are you talking about with the Batman thing? Him killing people is a direct contradiction to his character, it would betray an essential foundation to his characteristics that have been thoroughly established throughout the years. Alibaba having bad luck with women and complaining about it doesn't in any way go against his foundations. It does not oppose his character, or his ideals or his goals. His comedic failings in romance don't get in the way of any of that and have no relevance to his purpose in the story, so you're wrong on that front.

And you haven't read a lot of JJBA if you think it's shallow. There are plenty of relatable characters in that series who readers can connect with, just like in Magi.

Because Sinbad's fuck-ups in his own series have a direct correlation to the character of Sinbad that appears in the main Magi series. Who he is and what he's trying to do are a direct consequence of those fuck-ups. Alibaba's romantic fuck-ups don't yield any influence to his actual motives as a character. The only purpose they serve is to occasionally break up the tension.

And if that's what you think, then fine. But your reasons for believing that are misguided and rather inaccurate. Should every MC be super stoic and serious, and never show any weakness in either a comedic or serious light? He's more fit for the MC role than other primary characters in this series, more so than Aladdin and Hakuryuu, at any rate.