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Muv-Luv / Total Eclipse / Schwarzesmarken

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As retribution for the thread ruining mistake of starting with Sumika last time, have the softest Meiya around.
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Sumika won.
/Meiya thread
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>>141570227

Since Sumika Spammer prevented justice from occuring, let's get this out of the way right away:

The Cutest!
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>>141570357
But Sumika is the Cutest!
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Type-00 Takemikazuchi is the best TSF there is, no substitutions, arguments, or debates.
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>>141570357
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>>141570485
>>141570357
Lise a mindbroken slut, worst girl in ML by far
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpp208_pink-floyd-the-final-cut-film-complete-1983_music

Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is THE soundtrack, comrades.
He`s now working on his next album about interdimensional matress travel - when he`s not busy calling out the jew.

Also, commissar Gretel and Martin were lucky to attend to the last concert of the Puhdys https://youtu.be/7FCWNS02jP4

But you can't forget the classics(if fucking shlomo didn`t block them where you live)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6ZtGpSH4g
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>>141570357
In '83 but not in the 70s.
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Best 3 TSF
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>>141570523
You mean even more so in the 70s.
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>>141570523

Sorry Bea, you're cute and all but Lise was around for the whole seventies, and she was cute the entire time.
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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI

>>141570504
my watersbrother
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>>141570813
Get out!
1968 never forgive, never forget.
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>>141570879
Fuck off Dubček
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>>141570640
>>141570787
Moeblob Beato > Loli Lise. But that's just my opinion and I like you Lisefags so I'll let the matter rest.
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>>141570227
posting best girls.
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Well I'm off to bed.
I believe that other Sumikabros will continue to defend the honor of best MuvLuv.
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>>141571070
Personally, I feel rankings don't apply here.

Moeblob Beato is for teasing and doing couples things with. Loli Lise is for headpatting and protecting.
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>>141571219
Posting
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What does sumika's oversize clitoris feel like?
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>>141571219
Wrong.
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>>141570523
>>141571070
S-save me Jürgen...
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>>141571219
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>>141571251
Boys can't be best girls!
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PACT PRIDE WORLD WIDE
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>>141571070

To be fair Beatrix gives it a fair effort.
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>>141571281
why save me if she is joining him in valhalla?
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>>141571240
>this smile wasn't protected

Not like there was much Theo could do against several armed soldiers but it is truly a tragedy.
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Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart
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>>141571281
It should have been more bloody if it had hit her.
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>>141571745
The LN had blood leaking out of her cockpit. Wait for the BDs though, and see if they fix it.
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>>141571223
As a sumikafag I find your behaviour to be deplorable so I will post someone else instead.
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>>141571745
Beatrix's death should have been Vivi tier brutal.
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>>141571683
I`d torture Kyubey with her.
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>>141571934
Vivi was still alive when she got torn apart.

Also crawled around before she died.

The anime was tame.


And Lise should have died when she got hit by the shield. Her face should have been gone due to the overpreasure.
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>>141572028
>Torturing Pham
pls no
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>>141572213
>torn apart
>crawled around
I understand japs all get stiffies from the gore, but this is beyond ridiculous.

>>141572364
Not even once. Comrade Pham is safe.
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>>141572408
Nothing is impossible.
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>>141572408
If VN Vivi was this bad, just imagine how much worse VN Beatrix is going to be.
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>>141570625
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>>141572642
Shock alone would turn her off.
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>>141572648
I wonder how they'll handle Lise's backstory
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>>141572648
the left arm was the worst part of this
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>>141572648
Beato's death will be so gruesome even the haters won't be able to enjoy it.
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>>141572854
It was bad enough that the LN didn't describe it, just that she sounded like she was in terrible agony.
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Yui, Cryska and Inia are my waifus.
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Inghild and Marco are in the back yard of their home sitting on a swinging bench that's been set up toward the back, surrounded by flower beds. Inghild is reading a mass market paperback romance novel, while Marco is reading some sort of glossy hobbyist's magazine. On the lawn between them and the house, two small girls are running around chasing a jet black German Shepherd puppy. The white patch on the dog's chest betrays the fact that it is probably not a purebred, and is instead a Labrador mix. Inghild discovered it while she was volunteering at the animal shelter, and couldn't bear to part with it. Their own daughter, Annet, has grown up with Beatrix and Jurgen's daughter, Anneliese, and the two are best friends. Marco has a beer, which he sips every time he turns a page. Inghild has iced tea, as well as a passenger aboard.

The girls are now playing fetch with the dog, sort of. Annet is throwing a tennisball to Anneliese, who is swinging at it with a wooden T-ball bat. Inghild isn't sure if she should intervene, since the dog is trying to catch the tennis ball in it's mouth as it is pitched. Before she has time to yell, "Knock that off!" there is a terrific "YIPE" as the dog's head and the bat connect. The poor animal crashes into the grass, rolls on it's back and then darts under the back porch. Inghild lets out a slow breath, trying not to laugh out loud, while the two girls follow the dog to its sanctuary under the porch, apologizing and trying to coax it out. Eventually, with the help of some cheese, they manage to coax the dog back onto the lawn, and resume playing their game of fetch. This time, the dog keeps a safe distance away from Anneliese and her bat.
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>>141572788
I think that he is in "self-loathing" mode when he said he "slipped-away from the massacre" when Lise was taken away or I am giving him too much credits?
I also wonder how they will handle her back story in her route.
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>>141573044
Adlige Arschbacken/10
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>>141573072

Theo is always in "self loathing mode"
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>>141573044
Anneliese is already a violent girl.
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>>141572949
>multiple waifus
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>>141572949
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>>141573044
>Their own daughter, Annet

Awww....
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>>141573072
He probably feels survival guilt and blames himself for not being able to do anything to save her.
As for her backstory
>kidnapped
>tortured
>raped & taped
>forced to prostitute
>forced to kill civilians, including children and babies
>forced to torture's her brother's friends
Is how it would go if it follows the LN. But they've already cut out a lot of side stuff and character expanding moments so who knows what they'll do, but it would be pretty hard to have a Lise route without seeing things from her perspective.
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>>141573344
>>141573276
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BETTER DEAD THAN RED!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDmdfOrG3D8
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>>141574312
Damn right!
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>>141572854
Are you kidding. Seeing one of the hottest 2D girls ever get penetrated by a phallic object and then immediately die from it is something that I'll be fapping to a decade from now.
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>>141573694
why did they have to be so edgy about it
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>>141575082
Because Hiroki.
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>>141575243
>mfw I just realized upon seeing this closeup that she's crying

Goddamn it.
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>>141575924

This is why so many people want to protect and heal best girl.
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>>141575924
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>>141576009
There's no healing something that broken anon
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>>141570227
I swear, she's too cute in this one.
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>>141576073
You're doing this to hurt me, aren't you?
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>>141575924
But Harutard had no suffering. He was just an idiot.
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>>141576180

Depends on what your goal is. there's no way you'll ever get her back to the way she was before, but if you can get her to really understand that there are still people who love her and accept her, that will be enough.
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Is there an edgier Muv-Luv MC than TDA Takeru?
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>>141576811
>edgier
What?
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>>141576180
Beato is the only one who is carrying around a "black mark".

Lise can still kind of be salvaged.
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>>141576406
Gotta face the demons to overcome them.

But here, have her happiest moment after three long years.
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>>141576811
Well, he isn't the MC of TDA, so...

Anyway, Theo is probably still way edgier. I don't know if even TDA Takeru would execute immobilized pilots or use civilians like shields like he does.
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Beato is love, Beato is life
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>>141577641

We need a Werewolves VN from Lise's perspective where the three routes are Farka, Bea and Theo.

The name Werewolves bothers me in this context because they're girls and "Were" is the masculine prefix/pronoun in english (man is gender neutral) and "werewolf' is basically the only time you ever see it used and yet here it refers to women. Also that implicitly means "wingman" and "Fireman" and "Spokesman" are all gender neutral.
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>>141577875
>Farka&Theo, Bea&Theo and Theo.

Corrected that for you :P.
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>>141577875
>Farka route

That's some forbidden love territory.

I'd absolutely read it.
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>>141577875
>"What do you mean I have to choose!"
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>>141577875
>"I slept with a girl my age and enjoyed it"
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>/a/ threads full of liseslut shitposting
now I KNOW our threads are better.
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>>141578185
Sauce.
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>>141570501

Sad, but completely true.
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>>141577995

>Onee-chan and Onii-chan making Lise feel good at the same time

>Theo venting all his animosity toward Beatrix by penetrating her the right way

>Lise being sandwiched between the people she loves, while Theo and Beatrix run their hands over every inch of her tiny naked body.

The council has met, and approves of this suggestion.
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>>141578445
Lise's most precious masturbating material.
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>>141578445
Nice.
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>>141578357
>Theo venting all his animosity toward Beatrix by penetrating her the right way

I have a feeling Theo would have to overcome a lot (including plenty of teasing) before even getting to this stage.
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>>141578202
Are you talking about /m/?
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>>141579008
/m/ thread are dead ever since they chased everyone away who wasn't there for mecha.
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Well, what will you have:

1。Play Extra (BETA) a few days from now.
2。Play Extra+Unlimited (Full) next month.

https://twitter.com/muvluvseries/status/731831053371871234
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>>141579138
Why would anyone choose the first option? I'm mean its not as if they will really deliver by next month, but c'mon.
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>>141579331
Because a few days is better than soon-ish?
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>>141579403
But whats the catch, will choosing the Beta mean longer wait till full release time
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>>141579138
Obviously option 2, though this assumes that next month is not "next month" (ie 2 months).

Also, Christ, that figure and those hips. I want to make a mother out of Beato and watch as she mellows out after having a child.
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>>141578564
If he knew what she did for Lise, he'd get over it like he got over his animosity for Iris. He's quite easy to convert, especially when its a pair of giant tits doing the converting.
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>>141579832
Next month is July (45 days from now).

As far as Beato, yeah, she's canonically the hottest girl. Iris is like a super model but Beatrix is a goddess.
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>>141580036
>>141579832
>>141580043
Anime never captured how hot she should have been.
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>>141580182
Anime didn't capture alot of things, but that and Lise's personality changes are the most egregious.
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>>141580291
But Lise's design without ribbons is gorgeous.
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<<It's them. the Demon Lords of East Germany>>
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>>141580036
>>141580043
>>141580182
Reminds me of the Theo/Beatrix slash stuff on Chink forums:

“你真是个既奇葩又让人讨厌的女人,贝娅特丽克丝.布莱梅少校同志。”提奥多尔,不屑地对贝娅特丽克丝说道,“每次一看见你,我都会觉得很头疼。”

“随你怎么说……话说回来,你之前晕过去的时候,提奥 嘴里总是在念念叨叨的,还居然伸手来摸圌我的脸……那时你是不是做了什么奇怪的梦?”

“哪有……!?关你什么事!”

“嘛,你不想说就算了。”说着,贝娅特丽克丝坐直了腰身,以平静的语气继续对提奥多尔说道,“那个……在我的求生包里有条保湿毛巾,你能拿来帮我擦擦身子吗?”

>[Scene set up is that Beatrix and Theo get fucked up fighting each other up in a blizzard. Unfortunately, their comm/radar equipment gets fucked when they crash. They both find shelter in a village and after giving up on killing one another, reach a sort of understanding. They end up sleeping next to each other, sharing blankets in their survival kits to stay warm, which is especially important for Beatrix as Theo smashed her suit dissolve button in his scuffle with her. Que Beatrix trying to seduce Theo.]

"You are both a wonderful and very annoying woman, Genossin Major Beatrix Brehme" Theodor said with a annoyed sigh. "Every time I see you, I feel a migraine coming on."

"Oh, is that what you say?... You're always complaining about me Theo, but when you were passed out, you reached out to grope me... I wonder what sort of perverted dreams wonder through your head?"

"What...!? Th-that's confidential!"

Well, it's not like I expected you to tell me anyways..." Beatrix said, sitting up straight and looking at Theo before continuing in a calm tone "...there's some wet towelettes in my survival bag; can you help me clean my body?"
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>>141580356
I said personality, little one, not looks.
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>>141574312
>>141574377
https://youtu.be/-sEqzEgDZ0g
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>>141580388
It's oddly comforting to know that other cultures write fanfictions. Reminds me that we're all humans.
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>>141581153
>write fanfictions
>humans
No. The only exception is the japanese doujin scene.
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>>141578564

Theo awakens to a strange sensation between his legs. He dpesn't remember falling asleep, and has he tries to move, he becomes aware of the restraints binding him to the bed. He looks down, and his eyes lock with those of his sister, Lise Hohenstein, who is staring at him from between his legs. He gradually becomes aware of the fact that she is gently sucking on his testicles, as his neglected member throbs helplessly just ahead of her face.

"Are you sure this is alright?"

Theo hears a voice he recognizes, but one that is totally devoid of the authority and self assured seduction he usually associates with it. He looks over, and notices Major Beatrix Brehme looming over him, kneeling on the king sized canopy bed, hiding her breasts behind one arm and blushing deeply. The negative pressure on his testicles suddenly disappears as Lise allows him to drop free, taking a deep breath and sitting up on the bed. Theo tries to say something himself, but a braided silk rope has been threaded between his jaws, and it prevents him from saying any real words.

"Yeah, he should be already to go now."

"That's not what I mea--" Beatrix's protests are cut off as Lise grabs her chin and plants a deep, passionate kiss on the lips of her superior. As she draws away, a string of saliva connects the two, and Lise looks gently into Beatrix's eyes.

"That's something you can worry about after everything is over."

Lise helps Beatrix straddle Theo, and positions his member at her entrance. Beatrix has one hand positioned on Theo's chest, the other squeezing Lise's own hand. Lise, for her part, is stroking Beatrix's hair in a reassuring manner. Beatrix bites her lip and lets out a quiet moan as she settles herself onto Theo. As she raises herself up again, Theo is pretty sure he can see a trace of blood smeared on his member.

"The hard part's over, Major. Now just focus on making yourself feel good."

Beatrix nods, and begins to grind her hips into the man lying beneath her.
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>>141581716
I guess tying him down works too.
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So how is the animu adapation of muv luv anyway
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>>141581716

moar plz
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>>141581716
Fucking hot
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>>141581716
>"That's not what I mea--" Beatrix's protests are cut off as Lise grabs her chin and plants a deep, passionate kiss on the lips of her superior. As she draws away, a string of saliva connects the two, and Lise looks gently into Beatrix's eyes.

By the sweet baby Jesus...
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>>141582180

A few weeks later, Theo had slowly gotten used to his life as the newest member of the Stasi Werewolf battalion. Somehow, the transition was much easier on him than he initially expected. Their current mission was as a mobile ready reserve, charging into hotspots where east german defenses were threatened to be overwhelmed by the Beta. While he had his own issues with the Stasi, he could at least stand to look at himself in the mirror with this sort of mission. He closed his eyes and smiled to himself as he leaned back into the barber's chair. Behind him, his sister was playfully tressing and teasing his hair, the faint odor of hydrogen peroxide creeping into his nostrils as she worked. She rinsed tyhe excess bleach out of his hair, then gave it a few careful snips, before finally, satisfied, she stepped on a few levers on the chair, sinking him to the floor and making him sit upright again. He gazed into the mirror she held out in front of him, startled. His hair was suddenly blonde. He looked like a totally different person. Behind him, he could see his sister staring at him, with a mischevious smile on her face.

"It's Beatrix's birthday tomorrow, and you're going to be her present."

He spun round in the chair to face her directly.

"Listen up. You are to sequester yourself in your room, and stay there until you are summoned. From there, you are going to infiltrate the major's room, and carry out your mission." Lise is standing at attention, giving him an operations order.

"Now, big brother, this part is very important. Your name is Jurgen. You will respond only to Jurgen. Got that?"

He nods, slowly.

"Good. Now rest up. Tonight is going to be a big night."
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>>141582655
>>141581716
>fanfiction on /a/
holy shit
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>>141582803
How new are to this threads?
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>>141582873
if you want muvluv fanfiction go to fucking fanfiction.net or something, fucking gross ass shit don't need to be in threads
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>>141582939
>fun police strikes again
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>>141582970
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>>141581716
So if Beatrix is a confirmed pouter, what would a pout from adult Beatrix look like?
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>>141582655
Damn I like it.
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>>141583030

Love.

Cue all the werewolves trying to spoil her and cheer her up without letting her catch on to the fact that they're doing it.
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>>141582970
Oh wow some of the most obvious shitposter vernacular there is.
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>no Gretel route on Martyrs
>no Gretel route on Extra

ok
No, it's not ok but that how is going to be
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>>141583160
>Onee-san is feeling down! Quick! Call the Feldwebel! Buy her chocolate! Buy her roses! Pet her hair! Don't mention Jurgen! Hurry!
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>>141583387
>no Beatrix route in Martyrs
>know that the hero is going to kill her horribly
>no BiS VN

>no Pham option
>she will forever be single, yet out of reach despite being willing

it's not like you're the only one who's suffering
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>>141583387

>Would rather Gretel got pumped and dumped by a 3edgy5me psychopath than being reunited with her OTP
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>>141583480
Beato secret route coinfirmed
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>>141583501
Why would Gretel fuck either Axmann or Beatrix though?
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>>141583563
Sauce?
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>>141583602

because she's not just a communist, she's a fucking communist.
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>>141583440
I can actually see this happening on a silly day, with all the Werewolves running around coming up with things.
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>>141583660
Hopes and dreams
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Will any of the other Werewolves be getting backstories or expanded characters for the VN? I think the anime really under used them and I'd really want to find out more.
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>>141583756
Can you imagine what it would do to troop morale if she wasn't feeling too good? The spiritual pillar must remain strong. And to that end, chocolate and red roses are the cure.
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>>141583890
We will finally get to see what Farka looks like.
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>>141584118

I could've sworn we saw her in the anime. Or am I thinking of someone else?
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>>141584219
None named as Farka specifically. Unless the one with the wavy black hair was supposed to be her, y'know the squeaker. In which she was even more different than Lise was.
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>>141584118
>tfw a badly drawn doujin does a better job of showing Farka and Lise than the anime
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>>141584432

Things get messed up because Lise is supposed to be Battalion XO, so there shouldn't be anyone who outranks her other than Bea.

Also mean girl battalion because muh victims. Squeaker is cute though.
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>come to these threads a month later as I got bored now that the show ended
>keep seeing the same pictures and posts repeating

I-It's like we are in some sort of time loop!
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>>141584749
Which means the key to exiting it lies with Sumika.
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Post BETA
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>>141584610
We will never recover from what Watanabe has taken, but we can rebuild.
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>>141584749

In the meantime I wrote a novel based on the idea of awakening one day with Lise asleep beside me in my bed.

There's a lot here.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uMN28GtT68ZPP2gS2Tq5Ipm4yw_odDBLpS3qM_camg/edit#
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>>141576811
Does this look like someone edgy?
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>>141570227
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>>141585685
It's after he his boosted up by Hiroki speech at the end of TDA 3 so that doesn't count.
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>>141585750
he still shows a displeased expression when talking to notyuuhi though

that still edgy?
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>>141585685

So edgy he listens to Linkin Park for the Lyrics.

https://youtu.be/kXYiU_JCYtU
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>>141585677
That reminds me new Lise birthday pic soon.
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>>141585685
he fights using a black tsf that has two reverse grip halberds and literally 2fast4u and slashes you in the back
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>>141586104
>>141585911
>>141585685
I hate how every single ML protagonist excepting Jurgen ends up being a clueless tool to other's agendas. I don't think we've had a single intelligent protagonist yet excepting above mentioned.
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>>141586504
Makabe is fairly intelligent, but for the most part, ML protags are some pretty dense motherfuckers.
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>>141586504
Can't really expect a broken man to act wisely now can''t we?
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>>141586584
Not me.
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>>141586734
He wasn't exactly very bright before losing everything, either. In Takeru's case, it's rather justified because of the trauma of being thrown into another world. Really, it's justified with most of the characters. Doesn't change the fact that it sometimes feels like the whole lazy idiot protagonist schlik is overused to maximize suffering/drama.
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>>141586918
Well he ain't called a bratty savior for nothing, plus in Kurogane's case it was mostly seeing most of the girls except one in his squad die in sadogashima while he returns alone while they informed him the truth about the brain tube..and then being controlled by the homo duo to do their dirty work for them
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>>141585911
>>141586734
>>141586104
>>141587211
>could have been given the role on guarding best girl and as a reward for his slaughter on NOMAD
>refuses because his a muh i am an eishi
>which made ikaruga even feel despised him for his boring answer

kurogane deserves his suffering
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>>141588313
I love Sakaki
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>>141582655

I love it. Wonder what her reaction was?

Also dem dubs.
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>>141578270
It's something she said from the LN I think.

>>141578357
Now that is some forbidden love territory.

>>141580036
So what did Pham's tits convert Theo too?
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>>141588737
>So what did Pham's tits convert Theo too?

>I gotta get Iris!
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>See you later :_;

Fuck, i want that light hearted atmosphere back now please, i didn't ask for this
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>>141588737
>So what did Pham's tits convert Theo too?
Opening up more and learning to forgive himself I guess. Everyone should have their own personal Pham for counseling and therapy hugs.

>Now that is some forbidden love territory.
But isn't forbidden love the most fun?
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>>141589228
We didn't ask for it. But we need it.

It's OK to cry anon. We all did.
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Did anyone actually cheer when Beatrix and Lise were killed?
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>>141589540
Some MALfags did.
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>>141589540
Only contrarians cheer for shit characters like Beatrix and Lise
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>>141589575
>Some
Try all of them. Reddit too.


>>141589600
Seems to be the majority opinion of 4chan.
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>>141589600
>Only those with great taste cheer for best girls like Beatrix and Lise

There we go.
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>>141582087

Which one? TE or SM?

SM's was...well it brought us together, but on the other hand, it utterly butchered the source material. It's gonna cause tons of problems for the fandom in the time ahead, especially when SM is translated.

TE was...well for some reason a lot of people hate it, but I really loved it a lot. Accurate to the source material. Very compelling characters, flaws and triumphs everywhere. Had GOAT music on top of everything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Aj7_U1h-yE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msFicDn_0UA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6zsFB_HFU8

>>141581716
Nice. Lewd but nice.

Though I kind of like the idea of them finding each other organically. But still, very nice.

>>141582655
Not sure whether this is healing or suffering...
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>>141586893
Sort of. He's not in the usual sense, but the CIA does more or less assume he'll always do the right thing (i.e. American thing) in the end, and so work off that. He's their guy and he doesn't even realize it.

At least it's miles better than TDA *literally comes up behind you* PSSSSH NOTHIN PERSONNEL KID Takeru.
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>>141589228
Go on, ask /pol/, ask how to bluepill yourself because you can't take it anymore.

There is no going back.
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>>141590003
>it brought us together
Thats not what I remember happening. Besides SM being translated will help clear the air, not cause more problems.
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How has no one done a Deutschland 83/Major Tom AMV of Schwarzesmarken yet? This should be the most obvious thing in the world.
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>>141590276
Well I meant in the sense it brought disparate Muv Luvers together from their various banishment points across 4chins, as well as introduced a whole new lot of us into the world of ML.

What I meant by causing problems is that animeonlies like MALfags, Suki, wikifags, etc already have their preconcieved ideas of what SM is like, and the VN translated will fuck with that, cue their endless bitching. The Western fanbase can be cancerous as fuck at times, if the numerous MAL threads and such didn't already make that plain. It's like some of them just can't grasp the higher concepts present in ML, and just...don't possess emotional maturity to understand people or their motivations. They miss the whole point of Muv Luv at times.

If there's one thing I'm thankful, it's that we've had our own threads for a long time now. I can't even begin to imagine how much the others are missing out on shit, especially since we also get most of the translations and stuff.
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>>141589228

I really wish someone would pick up the MUV-LUV LNs and mangas
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>>141590506
Wiki and Suki tend to leach off of us. Mal and Reddit are pure animeonly though.
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>>141589228
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>>141590617
They'll get a nice ride once the VN hits. If they haven't forgotten about ML and SM by then.
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>>141591015
The Gretelfags are going to have it rough.
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>>141589462
>>141590558
I think i started feeling really bad during the hug and then that monologue while that bittersweet song started and then that see you later finished me off like a bullet to the head

I want to play alternative immediately but it still stings holy shit.. I dont want this ride anymore
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>>141590558
Is there even any raws out there for that?
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>>141591213
Just tough it out and pull through. You can do it.
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>>141591262
Every time man, that shit is brutal on the soul.
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>>141590506
>one-dimensional le smirking villains in animoo
>public reacts in predictable ways
>those are le dumb animoonly proles, not enlightened animoo watchers like myself who go off chink interpretations and hearsay

Pottery!
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>>141591311
I guess i will, i hope alternative have some healing and some more TSF action...well here goes nothing i guess. Wish me luck.
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>>141590211
>/pol/
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>>141582655

Theo stayed in his room listening to a demo tape by a Polish band called 'Vader.' They had recently formed, but already their bootleg tapes had managed to circulate around the DDR. It was like nothing else he had ever heard in his life. Certainly, the Puhdys albums pinned above his desk could hardly be compared to this. Theo wasn't entirely sure, but he suspected that he liked this sort of music, if it could even be called music. Eventually, just before midnight, Lise arrived at his door with a glass of kirschwasser.

"Hello.... 'Jurgen.' Drink this, you'll probably need it."

Theo sucked down the glass of sweet, clear liquid greedily, and his body felt warm. His sister led him to Beatrix's room, and opened the door in using a copy of the key. Beatrix sat at her own desk, poring over an plans for an upcoming operation. In these days, something as insignificant as a birthday was hardly something to celebrate, let alone disrupt the regular schedule. at least that's how Beatrix felt. She hadn't had anything to celebrate for a long time. She looked up from her work upon the entrance of a new person to her sanctuary.

"...Theo?" Beatrix squinted into the darkness. Her desklamp illuminated little other than the papers below it, and it took her a while to adjust. Theo stepped into the light, smiled nervously, and shook his head.

"Jurgen!?" Momentarily fooled despite herself, Beatrix drops her pen, and her jaw. As she slowly realizes that it is, in fact, Theo, albeit now with blond hair, she she hides her face behind her palm, and smiles sadly.

"Lise and the rest... they put you up to this, didn't they? Oh well." Beatrix gets up and crosses the room. before placing a hand firmly on the tails of Theo's tie. Theo tries to shrink back away from the burning gaze of her ruby eyes, now only ten centimeters from his own. The girl gives him a predatory, lupine smile.

"Well, this will do. If only for the night. Jurgen, Get your pants off and get on the bed. Now."
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>>141591262
Somewhere along the line, i keep telling myself that is a better ending since she is alive and have a kid.. Bittersweet maybe, but it still have a little sweet hope in it that even though a life perish a new life was born in order not let her be lonely.
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>>141591213
There is no off the ride. The only way is to see it through, you know that.

>>141591685
It'll have healing, don't worry anon.

>>141591726
That works.
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>>141591781
Nice. Of course Theo would get passed around the Werewolf squad like a boy toy if he joined.
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>>141592052

>Eight months after Theo is assigned to Werewolf Battalion, the battalion is suddenly moved to the rear and listed as inactive, or, as civilians would say, given "maternity leave"
>Instead of being punished, theo is made a hero of the DDR for providing so many pedigreed future TSF Pilots of proven lineage.
>The werewolf Battalion is redeployed to Havana, Cuba, were it is put on permanent "replentishment" duty.
>It is soon joined by the remianing members of the 666th. Pham, Iris, Gretel, Annet and Sylvia join for replentishment duty, along with Walther, who is brought along for genetic diversity. Hannibal and Mariah are sent along as well for reasons.

That's not a good end, that's a GREAT END.

Also, if the wall fell in ML universe in '83, this demo dropped in '83, too.

https://youtu.be/iZ4gI8BPG94
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>>141591262
speaking of the muv luv mangas, how far is the alternative manga already is?
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>>141592518
The translation got up to Sagiri's coup, and its still ongoing.
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>>141591726
>/pol/ turns Moeblobs into Sexbombs

If only.
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>>141592518
current chapters for it is already near the ouka arc or already is..it has 15 volumes as of now i think
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>>141592728
>implying that young Beatrix isn't sexier than the majority of the adult cast
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>>141593231
I'm not denying that, but she is still a Moeblob at 13.
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>>141593231
She's up there with the best of them I'll give her that.
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>>141591781

An hour later, Theo can hardly move. The girl who is now curled into him has wrung every last ounce of vitality out of his tired frame. Although she instantly recognized him, Beatrix seems to have banished every last memory of Theodore Eberbach from her mind. Right now, Beatrix has him wrapped in a protective, territorial embrace. She's somberly stroking his hair, his head pressed into her bosom.

"Jurgen... please. Don't leave me here... It's been so hard."

Theo freezes. She called out the other man's name loudly and lovingly as he made love to her, but now, in the still of the night, Beatrix is showing him a side of herself that living person has ever seen.

"Please... I can't do this without you. It's so hard..."

Beatrix is crying now. Theo can feel the loss and loneliness and despair emanating from her. Beside him is a girl with nothing. Absolutely nothing.

"I can't... I can't come back. I can't be the girl I was. I've done too much. I couldn't ever ask you to love me."

Theo shudders. Somewhere inside him, he feels something. A voice emerges, a voice that does not seem to belong to him.

"Bea... shhh." Theo looks up. 'Is this really me?' he asks himself. He never called her by that name, nor has he ever heard a person call her that. Still, it feels so overwhelmingly right that he cannot call her anything else.

"Bea... It hurts to see you crying like this." Beatrix sniffs, struck by the voice she is hearing. She gazes into Theo's eyes with a mixture of confusion and longing. Theo, for his part, doesn't know why he is saying this. These words do not seem to be his own.

"Bea, no matter what, I'll always love you. I'll always wait for you."

Theo strokes her cheek. After a moment, the spirit --was it a spirit?-- finally passes. Beatrix is asleep, a tired smile on her face. He soon joins her.

The next morning, Beatrix is back to normal.

"Eberbach... if you tell anyone about last night, I'll kill you."

She means it.

"And go fix your hair."
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>>141593808
Well thats gonna be real fuckin awkward moving forward. What a bunch of wacky rascals those Werewolves are.
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What's age doing? Any new games?

Why isn't there much porn for the franchise?
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>>141594055

Martyrs, the second half of SM, and also apparently a new TDA.
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>>141582803
>implying good fan fiction doesn't exist
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>>141594104

Don't forget about Melvina Maniax and KimiNozoxMUVLUV

>also apparently a new TDA.

OH YES
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>>141594216

I'm not the best, but I think I'm beyond happy that someone liked it enough to draw this.
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>>141594104
What's Matyrs?

And is there any hard details on TDA 04 or is it 05 now?
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>>141594822
>What's Matyrs?

The second half of SM. And no details on the next TDA yet.
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>>141594104
TDA 04 WHEN
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>>141594366
>its been half a decade since melvina maniax
Fuck give me that shit

I learn moonrunes just for that
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>>141593808
Awww... that was special.

I can also imagine Beato being in an unusually good mood for the next few days and Werewolves winking at/nudging Theo for a job well done.

Secretly, they're all also wondering how good he must be in bed because, because damn he seems to have made the Major happy. They actually start talking about it in hushed voices with each other blushingly, but then clam up any time that Theo, Lise, or Beatrix come near.
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Akane Maniax... i do not understand it.
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Read Muv Luv Alternative again.
Episode 7...
Cry like a bitch!!!
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>>141596119
What do you not understand about it?
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>>141596201

Several things. Why is Yuuko not wearing a shirt? And why is the show not devoted to yuuko's lack of a shirt?

Also don't blame me for the image tilt. That was the uploader, not me.
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>>141596286
Yuuko always had that weird top of hers. Her lack of shame was alwas there.

>And why is the show not devoted to yuuko's lack of a shirt?

Because it would it would distract too much fro the "plot". Not that I would mind.
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>>141596416

Tbh gouta kind of needs to be beaten with iron bars until every bone in his body is broken. Just my impression.
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>>141596636
Jouji is nuts and annoying but I didn't watch the OVAs for him, I watched them for the delicious Marimo-bullying and best sensei. Having the rest of the MabuRabus around was nice though.
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>>141596677

I get that, but it's like drinking everclear for the 5% water. Miserable.
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>>141591781
>>141593808
Very nice. Feelsy too...dammit.

;_;

Good job ghost Jurgen
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Choose two /a/. And no, you're not allowed to choose girls who aren't in the pic.
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>>141597568
Meiya and Marimo, any other choice is shit
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>>141593674
Man I can't get turned on by this when I know she was a prostitute
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>>141595417
I doubt Lise would mind Farka being included, but there does seem to be a limit on her tolerance of others barging in on her Theo.

>>141597825
More like seductress spy. And considering that she never had a choice in taking up that life I don't mind what past she endured. She's starved for any real love and clings to anyone who shows her the slightest amount like an abused puppy.
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>>141591641
>those are le dumb animoonly proles, not enlightened animoo watchers like myself who go off chink interpretations and hearsay

Excellent.
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>>141597568
>Because it would it would distract too much fro the "plot". Not that I would mind.

Right side, all the way to the back.
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>>141597568
Meiya and Kasumi
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>>141592052
Back when there was tons of Werewolf discussion, this seemed to be one of the consensus, if I recall.

That and Walther was raped by them.

>>141595417
I know, right? It's cute, but in an odd way.
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I feel glad knowing that everyone in Total Eclipse died at the end and made no difference or impact to the rest of Muv-luv, proving that Total Eclipse is completely shit, worthless, pointless, and nothing it made was ever used again.
Fuck Total Eclipse.
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>>141598534
Yuuya, Inia, Latrova and Yui survived at 100% maybe even the other dudes.
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>>141598315
>Theo would get passed around the Werewolf squad like a boy toy if he joined.

I think that wouldn't happen, if only because Lise is present (she'd would go nuclear if something like what happened to her happens to onii-chan) and Beatrix is in charge (if anything, she cares about her subordinates. Plus, I feel she would try to monopolize Theo teasing).
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>>141598620
>yui
>survived

I have bad news for you
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>>141598534
Except they did survive.
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>>141598634
>go nuclear
Isn't she already nuclear
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>>141598534
You sound frustrated there, young man.

Tell me, in what way did your girlfriend break your heart?
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>>141598723
>having a gf

NORMIE GET OUT
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>>141598634
But what if Lise was already dead?

Even then, it'd probably be like those other winged girls in Cross Ange.

>>141598692
Not him, but jokes on you. It's a ruse.
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>>141598760
>lying dead on a pool of blood
>I was only pretending


Yeah, no
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I want to be politically indoctrinated by Gretel
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Not enough Meiya in a Meiya thread...
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>>141598957
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>>141598634
>she'd would go nuclear if something like what happened to her happens to onii-chan
Its not like they're gonna literally rape him(not for possible lack of trying) but unless they all have androphobia he's going to get quite a bit of attention regardless.

>>141598720
A bomb is perfectly safe until its detonated.
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>there will never be a Command & Conquer anime, ever

IT HURTS, DAMMIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtqBlhSe-JM

They even had pretty good VAs. EVA sounds like she would possibly go full ara ara too.
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Look, Meiyafags, I like you guys, but we've already established that shogunates and samurai are utter failures in the present world.
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>>141599082
So long as we have Kane and others do silly things once in awhile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fXgOeCdYME
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Which bodysuit is the best bodysuit?
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>>141599219
You mean which franchise? Or which country's fortified suit in Muv Luv?
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>>141599219
Either the pure white European suits, because of the emphasis it places on everything, or the color set Yui uses, on the basis that it places extra emphasis on the chest.
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>>141599399
That's only Germany in the present day that uses the white with black, not all of Europe. Each country has their own still. And then you have to add to that there are differences by era - the West German suits of the 80s aren't the ones of the present.
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>>141599396
Fortified suits.
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>>141589228
>>141590707
>>141591262

Still pricks my soul every time i see it
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>>141599865
Well one of the best is the older 80s build. I like those shoulder/arm bands. And I like the spikier retinal projectors.

Not saying the modern suits are bad by any stretch. More variance too.
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>>141598620
>>141598697
Nope, everyone died at the end of the TE VN.
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Why do we allow image spam now again?

Reminds me of the brazilian spammer that made threads hit image limit.
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>>141600799
because this threads are dying and is in life support
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>>141600799
Sumika spammer did his thing.
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>>141600799
sumika did it
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>>141600929
>>141600984
Yes? Image spam is not good regardless.

We should report next time it happens.
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>>141601022
cockroaches are hard to kill
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>>141600518
How would you feel about this as the ED?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaK8__qTVi0

See? Seems one can soar, fly higher if they try.
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Is the master guy in Total Eclipse Theo?
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>>141601733
Yes.
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>>141601733
It's not verified for sure.

There's points both for and against that point. Points for being that they look very much the same, they have the same eyes (I think), and their VA is the same.
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>>141601733
no
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>>141600537
spiky > square.

Also Kasumi a cutest.
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>>141601917
For you, i like more the square too.
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>>141601917
As for the modern ones, the American one is bretty gud. Then again, I've seen multiple variants for America alone. Who knows really how many color and design combos there are to be honest?
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I feel tempted to just recruit Sagiri so I can have him killed.
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>>141602483
Do it man, maybe he can redeem himself with a good death.
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>>141602483
Make him the martyr that Japan, no, the world needs.
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>>141602334
Cheek plates are cute too.
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>>141603895
There's something so cute/sexy about those thick 80's cheek plates though.
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>this montage of Sumika's diaries

Holy shit lads I'm going to fucking kill myself. Why is this game so fucking depressing
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>>141605422
Because its the ride to end all rides. If you're lucky, you'll never get off. And you'll ride eternal in our stale but deathless threads.
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>>141605422
You've only just started Extra and you already feel like that? I don't think you'll make it.
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>>141605274
It's mostly because the girls wearing them are delicious. The blockiness also highlights the girls' cuteness.
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>>141605422
You had to be strong brother
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>>141570227
About to play TDA for meiya since i heard she appears there. Is TDA worth it?
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>>141606272
Go for it, report back with all your observations so we can all talk about it.
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>>141606367
I take that as a yes then.
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>>141606367
You guys are really starving for content aren't ya.
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>>141606728
Following along with someone suffering in real time allows us to vicariously suffer along with them. Misery loves company after all.
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>>141606728
These threads are getting too stale, all topics have been discussed to death. The only other way to get discussion going is to bait X-fags about something, and even that doesn't work anymore.
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>>141606963
>>141606728
We've been getting a trickle. Everyone is holding their breath for the big Schwarzemarken press release next month that'll kick off the flow of SM content and the Steam release.
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>>141606728
Of course, it's been ages man
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>tfw no Yugoslavia front VN
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>>141607612
forgot my Tito
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>>141607612
It would just devolve into ethnic cleansing. By the time the BETA invaded, there'd be no one left to chomp.
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>>141607612
>>141607646
Suffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEAXIoBPhBQ
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>>141606728
If you keep the analogy then the thread is hunger. The thread is always up, so people are always hungry all the time and will resort to eating whatever scraps they can find even if it isn't real food. It's an overindulgence committed by people who can't manage the discipline for good spaced meals.
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>>141606272
Yes its worth it, hence its probably one of the interesting side story for muv luv out there.
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Lise looks so out of place next to those two other sexbombs.
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>>141608328

Also, it's hilarious that she's so hated over in the West, yet always tops polls over in the East.
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>>141608328

The funny part is she could fuck both of them into a coma at the same time.
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>>141607311
>>141607311
>> it's been âges

FTFY
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>>141608379
There are too many over here, meaning the west, who believe that they are incorruptible and that if you crack under pressure you were evil all along.

>>141608438
But can she satisfy Marimo?
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>>141608328
>>141608379
slut wins yet again, shit taste japan
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>>141608604
More like great taste.
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>>141608646
That poll is fine, Lise a shit is all im saying. I dunno why you guys defend a slut. also, Original cast>side characters, always
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>>141608560
>There are too many over here, meaning the west, who believe that they are incorruptible and that if you crack under pressure you were evil all along.

I think it's more that they don't understand how torturing/raping your brother's friends to the extent that it shocks the other stasi, then trying to drag him to the side that would torture and kill him for no reason other than "lulz, we're evul" = saving him. And like any sane person, when he rejects the above, she then tries to murder him, to the point that she was going to kill him even after he could not fight back. It all comes off like a child who is going to destroy a toy of her's because she can't stand sharing it.
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>>141608696
Beatrix looks and acts like a slut but is probably pure while Lise looks and acts pure but is definitely a slut.
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>>141608942
>to the point that she was going to kill him even after he could not fight back

Did we watch the same show?
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>>141609071
She was going to do the same thing he'd do to Beatrix later when she took him down (or thought she took him down).

I still think Theo's the bigger douchebag though, going for her cockpit himself when she was neutralized. Actually, thinking about it, it seems as if Watanabe mixed some of Beatrix's canonical death with anime Lise's death (the whole not being able to see shit and freaking out followed by a coup de grace).
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>>141609271
God, I fucking hate the anime. And some people actually praise the changes.
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>>141601917
Especially with the bunny ears and ear covers that she sometimes wears.
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>>141609271
Watanabe strikes again! God damn that man!
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>>141608379
Japan knows the original LN/VN version, west mostly only knows the anime version. I think that says a lot.
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>>141610006
what went wrong?
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>>141610006
I think the anime version is hotter. Sue me.
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>>141582970
remind me how /mgg/ went down again
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>>141610044
see
>>141609481
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>>141610055
Why would I sue you for having great taste?
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>>141609005
Yeah but if it were up to her, she would only be a slut for one man.
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FORTIFIED SUITS
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>>141610168
I WANT TO WRECK MY SISTER ON STASI
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>>141610260
Only a few erect nipples.
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>>141610238
There is nothing wrong with a girl trying to please her man Anon. Hell if she had succeeded at that, a great number of lives could have been spared, as long as no contraception was used.
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>>141610580
And she wants you to wreck her too.
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>>141610668
>nothing wrong with a girl trying to please her man
Where did I say being a slut for one man was a bad thing? You're right.
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>>141610767
>>141610580
>>141610238

It would have gotten dicey if she had to continue working as a swallow even after getting him back. Like if she was still used for special missions or with high level ministers she already established rapport with
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>>141610611
Quite.
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>>141610580
She looks so defenseless. How could Theo kill her?
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Post cougars
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>>141611388
Wouldn't really make sense for that to happen unless she was still under Axmann since she was just a pilot for the Werewolves by then. IF she had to seduce someone for a mission she would no doubt keep Theo in the dark about it as much as possible, but its not like Beatrix would allow her to be put in that kind of situation ever again in the first place.
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>>141611733
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>>141611733
That's a Siberian Tigress with her cub, Anon, not a mere cougar.
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>>141611898
>57 (Fifty-seven)
No, that's a cougar wearing the skin of its fallen enemies
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>>141611785
You put too much faith in Beatrix.
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>>141611545
Pretty much everyone goes full retard at one point or another in the show. Its like a trainwreck of dumb people fucking over other dumb people for dumb reasons. Everything that happens just seems so unnecessary.
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>>141611994
Watanabe pls go
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Helmets are fine too.
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>>141612188
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>>141612188
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>No Iraqi tankers doing everything they can to slow down the BETA.
>No Cuban MiG-29's fighting on the far eastern frontline
>No South african olifant removing BETA
>No Rhodesian light infantry hunting laser class
>No Sikhs charging the BETA line.
>No Stridsvagn 103 holding the scandinavian frontline
There are so many places to expand on.
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>>141612188
They really don't use them enough throughout the franchise.
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>>141612502
But why?

Is it the same reason why they dont use the exoskeleton, no reason at all?
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>>141612288
EVA helm best in the franchise.

>>141612502
Indeed. I like cute pilots doing cute things but the helmets on the fortified suits are even better.
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>>141612344
>No Iraqi tankers doing everything they can to slow down the BETA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VhQxqH8KuI

also
>tfw no Non-Aligned Movement
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its hilarious how prophetic her words were.
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>>141612733
be careful anon, you might breathe tomorrow
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>>141612733
That is vague as fuck
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>>141612733
I think her lines were slightly more prophetic, but it's not like she could have actually done anything even had she not been penetrated.
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>>141612798
Holy shit
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>>141612733
>prophetic
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>>141612877
So if Theo really is the master then that means Beatrix was right all along?
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>>141613049
Yes

Poetry
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>>141612733
>>141612877
Best girls are always right!
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>>141612624
One can dream.

And a platoon of four T-62's would stand their ground well due to their firepower and most BETA having weak protection.

Throw in a Motorised rifle battalion and it goes well.

>inb4 no they dont
They do.
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>>141612733
>tfw too chikcenshit
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>>141613175
You know Beatrix is partially based off of one of Yuuko's sisters too (even wears similar casual clothes), right?
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>>141613484
BMP STRONK
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>>141613583
I do, I do. Mitsuko was it? Or was it Motoko?
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>>141613484
>>141613639
REMOVE BETA
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>>141613693
You know, the image after is actually used to show tank class getting cut apart.

This is the image used to demonstrate when it get shot
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>>141613171
Ain't hindsight a bitch. Shoulda gone innawoods with the imouto and saved everyone the trouble.

>>141613175
Always
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>>141611545
He should have just fucked her right there and then. With all the adrenaline coursing in them, and as freaked out as she was, it would have been an amazing screw.
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>>141614405
Best day of her life. She was already dry humping his tsf with her's the other night.
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>>141614405
Save East Germany and your friends from a literal cunt-Hitler or throw it all away for a bitch who doesn't love you enough to do the right thing. Gee, difficult choice there.
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Sylwia better get to the mall before they RTV these things.
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>>141614804
Im still amazed that not a single fragment hit her in the eye

And she got very large eyes.

Anyone got the image where we see her whole body coverd in spalling and fragments?
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>>141614943
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>>141587764
source for that image? First time seeing it, know it is TDA by where from do you have the full pic?
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>>141614999
Dem trips.
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>>141614804
>literal cunt-Hitler
When will this meme die?
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>>141615301
It's not a meme, it's a law by now (Goodwin's Law)
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>>141615301
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>>141615515
See
>>141609481
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>>141615301
When MAL shitters stop popping arround
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>>141615611
It's not like the LN version didn't believe in an establishing an even worse totalitarian regime either, or was really that opposed to things like death/concentration camps, kidnapping and indoctrinating children, random abductions, torture, and rape, or much of the other shit the stasi do.
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>>141615375
It's Godwin, not Goodwin.
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>>141615774
That fucking clown, to bad wave didn't have any balls.
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>>141615774
You rarely oppose the system that enables your grab for power, do you? Or do you shoot yourself in the foot after doing throwing everything away for your goal?
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>>141615774
>>141615930
LN/VN Stasi=Jaegers
Anime Stasi=Wild Hunt
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>>141616073
I think even the Wild Hunt were more loyal to one another than the fucking anime stasi.
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>>141589228
The best is yet to come.
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>>141609005
soon
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So hey, how does this sound for a Lise route. Theo comes over to the Werewolves, bringing Katia along with him. Schmidt gets paranoid over this and starts keeping a closer eye on the Werewolves. Shit happens (maybe he finds out the whole Ursula connection), then down the line, he captures Beatrix and the majority of the Werewolves. Turns out he'd had the whole TSF slave system installed in their units a long time ago (maybe he used his connections to the Soviets to have them shipped with an override code that only he knew). Que oh shit moment from Theo and Lise as they have to survive both the stasi and the rebels now.
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>>141616881
Beatrix would have found out about her TSFs being commissar'd and would have acting accordingly. I don't think Agent Schmidt has what it takes to outsmart her.
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>>141616881
Nah. I would expect a Stasi route to have twice as much INTRIGUE GAMES as the normal route rather than straight up combat.

Plus, the troops prefer Beato over Schmidt.
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>>141617097
So long as she's loyal. Schmidt was always trying to dig up dirt on the "big breasted bimbo" in the LN to expose her as a traitor and agent of the Bernhards (catching Iris was more than just personal revenge, it was probably a way to prove herself to the organization).
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>>141616881
God whats wrong with his face
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>>141616881
Nah, no rebellion, since if we take Katia out of the 666th grasp, then there's no one to step up and be the heroic figure of the revolution (as long as Irisdina is captured as usual)

So maybe the revolt happens, but it's defused quickly by the stasi since the soldiers don't have their Saint and the people of east germany don't rise up cause no one make a speech on live TV. Then business as usual with Beato getting to be top dog os the stasi, and therefore implementing her plan of turning the entire nation into a sacrificial lamb.

Maybe tortured Irisdina gets paraded to the populace afterwards, as a sign that no mater how much of a hero you're to the fatherland, step out of line and get rekt.
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>>141617336
I don't think he's supposed to be an attractive person. He seems to be a good politician and manager, but not a very charismatic person.
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>>141617434
Thats not the point, someone needs to answer for what they did to that poor man.
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>>141617561
Tactical nukes
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>>141617428
Isn't Beatrix considered to be a hero of the DDR too. I mean, the VN reveals that the stasi use her as a cover girl/spokeswoman to generate positive publicity. There's a scene where the 666th go to Berlin and they see a newsreel of Beatrix rescuing them and a bunch of other NVA. You also have people willing to kill and die for her, then there's the would "Beatrix was the Katia/Iris of the loyalist" crap.
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>>141617595
Pretty much. Theres so many ways they could take this. I hope its not disappointing.
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>>141617434
>>141617561
>>141617595

Guys, really. Compared to actual master spies, Schmidt looks and acts like James Bond.
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>>141618077
>Beatrix on the big screen

Why do I find that so appealing; why does it seem so right?
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>>141618589
She's got a bit of that old school hollywood glamour.
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>>141618760
>>141618589
And then they showed her dead body on the big screen.
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>>141618760
Is that Anette to the left?
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>>141618760
>>141618589
I wonder how many boys in the DDR must fap to her.
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>>141619464
all of them even theo.
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>>141612344
Noice, is that all the collected "we fucking wish" stories people wanna see? Aside from the few I think couldn't or wouldn't be, that's a pretty solid list.

Here, have a few seconds of Egypt's F-4's losing.
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>>141619557
>all the collected "we fucking wish" stories people wanna see
Nah there are alot more
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>>141614944
Here ya go

>>141612624
>NAM
Likely not allowed to exist. It's SEAsia members seem to morphed into COSEAN anyways.

In fact, it's pointless to exist in the first place in ML's timeline, since the USA vs USSR struggle is very much decided this time around.

>>141614943
>>141614999
Wonder what goes through Walther's mind.

>>141616881
Interesting, though very unlikely Katia would go along with him. Extremely unlikely, even.
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>>141619857
>>Interesting, though very unlikely Katia would go along with him. Extremely unlikely, even.
She's the deuteragonist of Schwarzesmarken. The first VN even has PoV scenes for her.
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>>141619608
>tfw no Cuban TSF with this scheme
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>>141620126
There is literally zero chance ML America would tolerate revolutionary Cuba stirring up trouble right on it's borders. Or nearly zero, considering America for some reason let Canadian anti-Americanism fester to that degree.

Face it, Fidel and Raul got 36mm justice to the face, and Cuba is probably part of America now.

What we really need is Somali-Ethiopian forces holding the strait. With Somali TSF's being third hand frankenstein F-4s and Mig-21s.
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>>141620386
>There is literally zero chance
I will make it happen. Nothing is impossible.
>tolerate revolutionary Cuba stirring up trouble right on it's borders
>Implying they are revolutionary in ML
>Implying they are not whispering "muh internationalism" and jumps on the nearerst boat trip to North africa.
>Implying they wont whore themself out for the US due to fear of extinction.
>Implying they actually exist
>Implying the CIA did not kill castro

Alot of things could have happend, it is a different world.
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>>141620386
>cuba
>troubles

yeah no
PLAYA GIRON BEST DAY OF MY LIFE
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>>141620673
I did not get that reference.

Would you care to explain.
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>>141620635
>been this salty
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>>141620716
Lurk Moar.
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>>141620716
Most of the troubles where caused to Cuba
Operation Mongoose and all that and it was implemented after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion who took place on Playa Giron
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>>141620795
What do you mean luark moar?

This is not a history board. You are obviously referencing to something in the past which. If it is bays of pigs then call it bays of pigs
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4 3 2 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QFSpS8Kx6c

Schwarzesmarken '86 never ;_;
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>>141620635

I'm late to the game but Annett looks exactly like what I would expect a 3dpd Lise to look like. She even wears the stripes perfectly.
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>>141620863
Okay thank you
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>>141620635
>That fucking face.
I want to be dominated by her.
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>>141605655
Senpai, this is Alternative
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>>141620776
What's wrong fidel? Cant handle the idea that the burgers got you with exploding cigarettes?
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>>141597568
Meiya and Yuuhi
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>>141621583
That botulinum toxin should have fucking worked...
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>>141621583
>>141621998
Can't stop Fidel
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>>141620635
I could see whimpering, trying to keep themselves from getting a visit of an American battle group by basically being (one of) America's eyes and ears inside the gommie camp. The thing is, would anyone even trust them then on the commie side?

>>141620673
>>141620776
You know pretty much none of those attempts to kill him were truly serious? And Bay of Pigs failed because Kennedy got cold feet and withdrew their air support. That's it.

Even in this world, when America decides it's time for you to leave this world, generally you do, sooner or later. It's just a matter of how much resources they're willing to donate to the cause.
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>>141620961
You're talking about Annete in this pic.

And yeah, Annete is probably the most normal girl for the most part. She was like the only 666th member who didn't pick up on the revolution shit until the stasi came knocking (which also saved her from getting tortured as Beatrix determined she didn't have any info).
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>Gretel will never confess to you

kill me please
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Marrying Irisdina.
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>>141622735
No, both Sylwia and Pham were also not really involved in the whole revolution until that time too. Anette was also on the rooftop when they wanted to detain Lise.

Also, Anette was likely only left for second round because they only had the personnel to do a few people at a time. Anette was next up to be tortured, remember? Also, torture for her would be her being unable to help those who were.
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>>141623233
Pham was tortured because she was Irisdina's XO and friend.

Sylwia because of her connection to Walter. In the LN, all the questions asked to her by during her waterboarding were questions about Walter.
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>>141623313
Did Lise had a breakdown as some people said when she was in charge of the torture or was she like in the anime with her "hair-twirling" mode?
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>>141623313
Ah, thought we were talking just the animu. My bad.

How far are they along on the LN translation? Still stuck at 4?
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>>141623416
I'm not really good at reading intentions, because SM puts a lot between the lines, and I read passages, not the whole thing because I'm shit at Japanese.

Saying that, she doesn't seem like she's enjoying it like in the anime, but we'll wait for the VN to confirm.

>>141623426
Yea
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>>141623313
First one to talk got to get off Ketchup's plane.
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>>141623507
That really sucks, to be honest. They're at what, eight LNs now? More than that? We'll never get it all.
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>>141624016
7 for SM, 2 for Requiem, and they're on the 4th and probably final volume of BiS right now.
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>>141622735

No, I'm saying Annett from Deutschland '83 looks like how I'd expect Lise to look in 3d. Especially when she wears the striped sweater that is the same color as Lise's ribbons.
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>Norad part about to commence
>first scene they start with is walken suffering
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
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>>141624453
>Bitches about suffering
>In Kouki's wild ride

Are you even paying attention to where you're located at anon?
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>>141624424
She does give off a very Lise vibe in looks.
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And as always Sagiri is at the enemy frog's side of fucking course he is
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>>141624888
Who is worse, Sagiri or Beatrix?
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>>141624932
Sagiri
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>>141624932

Sagiri's plan was shit, even if his heart was in the right place. Beatrix's plan was fairly solid, it was just nakedly immoral.
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>>141624932
Sagiri is a retarded faggot, but Beatrix competes with Axmann as the biggest douche in all of Muv-Luv.
Sagiri tries to limit damage while Beatrix gets wet off of the deaths of even her own girls.
Sagiri regrets killing people while Beatrix tortures and kills people at random.
Sagiri could have been a good person, Beatrix was always shit on the inside.
Sagiri looks like an ugly faggot while Beatrix is *the* semen demon of SM.
Both are difficult to take seriously because of muh nationalism and muh kill as many as possible.

Conclusion: If Sagiri was a hot girl he'd have way more apologist.
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>>141624932
Sagiri, because so far is whole motive on TDA is just to defeat the ''traitors' and his pretty much just mad that japan sunk and that the nips had allied with american pretty much.
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>>141625089
>Beatrix's plan was fairly solid, it was just nakedly immoral.
It wasn't even that. The DDR would have been sacrificed for no gain whatsoever. Either Beatrix is a retard, or the greater good stuff was just an excuse to murder as many people as possible.

Sometimes, the edgeshit plan is the worst one while the idealistic plan has no downsides.
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>>141624453
Because the promise of the happier day is paid in blood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6zsFB_HFU8
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>>141624932
Sagiri by a wide, wide margin.

>>141625392
And there's this asshole.
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Sagiri and Walken are pretty much fated to fight to death each time they meet aren't they?
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Does anyone think it's downright criminal that there's almost no rule 34 or doujin of Beato and Lise? I mean, what the hell.

Or am I missing something?
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>>141625850
The Japs consider Irisdina to be more erotic because of her "purity".
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>>141625721
Well Shitgiri is basically everything wrong with the ML world, and Walken is everything right, so of course they are.
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>>141624424
It was really creepy how many parallels and names were used in common between the two.
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>>141626159
>two series set in Germany use German names

bravo
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>>141625709
I don't have the numbers right now, but I remember one guy breaking down that the majority of Europe, DDR included, would have managed to evacuate before the BETA came in and that it was people like Beatrix throwing a spanner into everything.
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>>141626277
He pointed out in fact that the hardest wasn't to evacuate the population itself but to create the settlements so that they don't end up in massive refugee camps.
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>>141625904

Fucking Japs don't know a hentai goldmine if it came up and beat them to death with a fucking rock.
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>>141626390
Draw your own then, nerd.
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>>141626379
Yes, but it doesn't change the fact that Beatrix's plan would have hurt humanity way more for no real benefit. So either she's stupid, or malicious, and seeing how smug she was about thinking about how everyone would die when Theo killed her, I think it's the latter.

Really, Katia winning was the best thing for Europe, and humankind.
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>>141626527

I can't draw worth shit.

Writing, on the other hand... That's much more than doable.
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So this is what Ikaruga meant when he said the US-Japan forces are gonna vent on NORAD

Walken and his hunters purges an area while Shirogane and his Squad takes cares of the other side.

Man what a massacre, poor frogs have no to choice but to surrender.
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>>141617428
Making Theo from the scenario would probably drastically alter Katia's ideals.

Also, lack of the same amount of tension and conflict that Iris's route has would make Lise's route suck in comparison.
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>>141628764
If a Lise route involved turning to the Werewolves and thus coming head to head with the 666th, there would be more tension and conflict than any route. I doubt the paths you can take will change that much though. They'll all probably remain somewhat similar.
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>>141629097
Yeah, people are expecting totally divergent routes like in Type-Moon's shit. It's more likely just going to be slightly different tweaks on the main route. Beatrix will still die at the hands of Theo because she's the only one skilled and intelligent enough to fulfill that "final boss" role (even if the two don't have any real hero/villain chemistry), and Iris will still get shot because she's the "Martyr".
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>>141629452
>(even if the two don't have any real hero/villain chemistry)

It'd be great if they took this opportunity to correct that. Bea vs Iris tsf fight while Theo has a fist/knife fight with Axmann to avenge his family. Shit if theres a route where Lise lives a little longer throw her into it too. Maybe she gets the final blow by beating Ax's head in with a rock.
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>>141629691
Depends on how mean VN Beatrix is to Iris when she captures her whether or not Iris will even be in any condition to take her on. Even then though, I feel like Beatrix would destroy Iris unless she has some serious handicaps.

And yeah, Theo outsmarting and killing Axmann would be intensely satisfying.
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>>141620951
Schwepppenstette did nothing wrong!
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>>141629452
The Japs will rip them to shreds like they did over TE if Age does this. They're already pissed off enough over the first VN and probably the anime that Martyrs might seriously damage Age's reputation and all the good will they've been trying to earn back.
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>>141629691
>>141629839
Theo could join the Werewolves, betray them and free Iris. Or at least it would be pretty interesting if it went like that. After all if he falls in love with Iris in the first VN no matter what, did could make use of it this way.
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>>141630277
That's a good idea. It would give Theo an opportunity to get insight into the stasi's position and build up more of a relationship or hatred with Beatrix so that when he fights her, it'll have more oomph to it.
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>>141630483
Its a good way of explaining Beatrix's plan properly, giving the Werewolves in general more personality and setting up a Beatrix vs Iris fight, or at least make the Theo/Beatrix fight more interesting.
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>>141630624
*They could make the "easy" ways out in Bad ends too. You flee with Lise, they catch you and execute you or your MiG malfunctions or something. The "Beatrixroute" could be a bad end as well, you throw away all your morals and betray your squad, only for it to achieve nothing in the end, besides dying.
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>>141571251
Finally, a battle worthy of a cute pilot
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>>141630924
Beatrix would definitely bad end. Whatever else she may have been, by the time SM starts, she's pure evil, worse then Axmann even.
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>>141631245
>she's pure evil, worse then Axmann even.

Lets wait until Martyrs before we make such statements. Although, they can always make her eviler, and thus make your opinion fact.
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>>141629691

>Lise route ends with Lise beating Axmann to death with a rock

I never knew how much i needed this until today.
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>>141631419
Well, we'll see. I find her plan to be way more evil than Axmann's. Axmann is like the serial killer who kidnaps and tortures children to death in his basement. Beatrix is the type who takes over nations and tortures and kills millions. I could see how many would see Axmann as worse, as he's usually seen as being more personal with his evil and the creator of other monsters. At the same time though, just because you're the student, doesn't mean you can't surpass your teacher, and she is responsible for almost all the pain and misery the 666th go through. We often times slam Axmann for what he did to Lise, but Beatrix tortured Iris for her own sick pleasure in the LNs too. The story even puts her as the main antagonist, and the one who ultimately calls the shots for Axmann, showing in the end that even he fears her.
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>told that he have the skills worthy of guarding the shogun
>gets offered to guard the clearly not yuuhi shogun
>refused because im muhh eishi only


Why is TDA takeru so hard on himself its just pitiful...
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>>141631772
>the one who ultimately calls the shots for Axmann

There is our problem. I don't see it like this. For me the man bet on all horses, but the instant the rebels caught him trying to turn Gretel his only way out became to help Beatrix, even after being responsible for much of the rebels gains in the first place. If he hadn't helped the rebels, the transition from Schmidt to Beatrix would have been mostly bloodless.


>she is responsible for almost all the pain and misery the 666th go through.

During SM, yes. But that comes from her personal vendetta against Iris, for her the rest are collateral damage and/or other ways of hurting Iris. You can hardly blame Beatrix for Theo's past, Sylwia's gangrape, etc.
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>>141631772
Making Beatrix extremely lovable and sympathetic in BiS's sob-story just to turn around and make her as hate-able, unsympathetic, and sadistic as possible doesn't make a lot of sense to be honest. If anything, Martyrs Beatrix is probably going to be more of a tragic villain than hatesink.
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Two best girls
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>>141632477
I hope you know that posting this all the time is just going to turn it into something people will mentally filter as a regular spammy meme. Like oh wow, you like the meme girls that get posted all the time, way to be apart of the fad!
If you're not smart enough to realize this then you don't deserve to call them best girls.
At least you didn't pick actual good ones like Marimo or Chizuru to plague with your shit.
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>>141632902
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>>141626527
Not him, but I suck at art. I have so many ideas in my head, and yet I cannot draw them.

It hurts.

>>141626866
Same boat, or at least that's the impression you lot gave me.
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>>141633018
> I have so many ideas in my head, and yet I cannot draw them

Second.
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>>141632377
It's not like age hasn't done that before. Sandek is evil to the core, takes delight in the death of Latrova and a bunch of kids, has Yui assassinated because he didn't want her in the way of Cryska, and fucks with people just because he enjoys to, yet there are hints that he used to be an alright person. He isn't as bad as Beatrix, but it's there. Is he any less deserving of being ripped apart by BETA, not really. And that's the deal, Beatrix in SM deserves all her pain.

And before anyone starts, if pain turns you into a monster who can only hurt others, than you deserved that pain. It's not like Beatrix, even while young, didn't have a kernel of sadism in her. Otherwise, the mental trauma a lot of people claimed she went through should've turned her into a broken mess rather than a scumbag. Unlike others like Lise, it always seemed to me like she's doing what she does because she enjoys it. She's convinced herself that her dead boyfriend would want it just to justify her sadistic tendencies. Then again, it's questionable how much she was truly capable of understanding or loving Jurgen when you look at everything she does.
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>>141633157
>Beatrix in SM deserves all her pain

Problem with your opinion is that she got all that pain before SM and barely suffers in the story. And again, it has been questioned if Jürgen was the Saint they paint him to be.
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>>141633267
I'm including BiS in there.

Other characters like Sylwia, Iris, or Lise had pretty shit lives, but they didn't turn into complete monsters like she did. I think there was something already rotten in her, even as a child to make her embrace evil and cruelty so naturally and with so much enthusiasm.
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>>141633354
Well the whole she had always a "Seed of Evil" inside is very probable, I won't deny that. It could have never bloomed though, in other circumstances. Its like the Idea that floated around about what her true calling was, like how Marimo, while an excellent soldier, wasn't meant for the job.
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>>141633478
>>141633478
>>141633478

New thread!
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>>141622294
>murrika
>decides

You wanted to say kike.
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>>141633463
Exactly! Someone who is forced into evil is conflicted like Lise.

Someone who is evil by nature acts like Beatrix. I bet that if BiS is translated, she'll come off as a somewhat of a benign sociopath. She doesn't seem to give that much of a shit about anybody except for Jurgen and Iris. Even then, she seems like she's taking advantage of of the Bernhards' kindness, so it's likely that her relationship with them is parasitic in nature; that of a taker than a more equivalent relationship.
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>>141631597
It'd be quite cathartic no doubt. The guy has fucked with most of the main cast so they all have a bone to pick with him but after the years of abuse he put her through, plus killing her parents(biological, not adopted like Theo), if anyone deserves revenge its her. As far as canon goes Iris was a good second choice, since that way she at least avenged Jurgen.

If in Martyrs Theo finds out what Axmann did to his sister I fully expect him to go full Punisher mode. Any less would be a shameful display.
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>>141633619
Well, we have to see how the last part of BiS develops. If her "Seed" starts to bloom before Jürgen's death or not. I know they already had her killing people but no details on how she handled it. And on the whole "benign sociopathy" and emotional parasitism thing, it seems similar to Yuuko's relation with Marimo to me but they were always going for that parallel I think.

Also, shall we continue over there >>141633478 ?
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>>141633811
No, I'm going to sleep.
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>>141633831
Good night then.
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>>141633783
>If in Martyrs Theo finds out what Axmann did to his sister I fully expect him to go full Punisher mode. Any less would be a shameful display.

He didn't give a shit in the anime.
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>>141633857
He gave a shit, but had no time to run off on a man hunt by that point. Next time he saw the guy iris already put a bullet between his eyes.
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>>141633498
You should have waited. No one is going to populate your thread this early/late.
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>>141633945
>page 9
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>>141633984
He meant different time of day. Its also alright for the threads to take a break y'know, a little time away is healthy.
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>>141633984
He means time Anon. Its too late in Yankeestan and too early in Europe, so few to no people will post.
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>>141633984
There's 10 active pages of threads you know. And if you don't really have anything new then there's no reason to make a thread in the first place since you can just go to the archive and see the same stuff you're going to anyway.
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