Macross Delta

Arads VF31S has best color scheme and Insignia

I LOVE KANAME!

>>141491618
Why the fuck send Freyja for spying? Everyone and their mothers knows her. At least Mirage is a literal who.

>>141491618

So they're filming an Underwater Ray Romano movie instead of Macross Plus?

>>141492066
That's not how you spell Messer.

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>>141491618
>Mirage is with them

>>141491618
Is this a pic of a father and mother gazing fondly at their daughter from behind?

How will Kawamori top SONG ENERGY? As far as I can tell nobody in Delta has the passion that Basara did in 7.

>>141492340
Plus her rune would be a dead giveaway she's not a catgirl.

Delta and Kuromokuro are making my mecha day!

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Freyja is the cutest girl in the universe!

>>141493008
Both shows are very surprising so far hope they can keep the up the quality

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>>141492133
My nigga.

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>>141492647
With the rune-pika beam.

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What did he mean by this?

>>141491618
SUPAI!

>>141494098
He meant
>stop posting this shitty /tv/ meme over and over again

>>141491618
Isn't this just space blackface?

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>>141494022
RUNE
PIKA
BEEEMUU

>>141492554
What's wrong with that?

>>141494280
HOINA

>>141492133
Messer pls

KYAWAWA

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serious question
is that supposed to be hayate in delta 01 in the op?

>>141495126
That's Arad.

>>141491618
What's going on in this pic?

>>141492554
>didn't watch the preview last episode

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Freyja is hot.

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>Oh anon, you are such a fucking faggot

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>>141495848

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Finally more preview pictures.
http://macross.jp/delta/story/

>>141495126
Hayate is Delta 5.

>>141496013
Why are they mad?

>>141496105
You got the wrong one pregnant, anon.

>>141496105
It took seven episodes for them to get a real song

>>141496105
Mad at /u/fags

>>141496189
They already had their own song in episode 1. It was the first one played.

>>141495126
hayate doesn't wear a helmet

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>>141492133

>>141496105
Because its two holes and i only got one dick

>>141491618
So of all the hypersexualized girls in this show, you guys want to fuck the nine-year-old?

THAT ELF BETTER HAVE A FLUFFY TAIL

>>141491618
UNDERWATER RAY ROMANO

>>141497131
She's a beautiful and mature middle-aged woman I'll have you know.

>>141497131
Freyja? She's middle aged in terms of her species.

>>141497249
>>141497271
looks nine to me

>>141497131
What is hypersexualized?

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>>141497311
What 9 year olds do you hang with

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Current state of the mini-live
1 hour before the actual performance

>>141497632
where is it anyway?

>>141497678
Kawasaki, which is like between Tokyo and Yokohama. This is supposed to be by the train station I think.

>>141497632
I'm honesty so happy for these updates. Keep them coming! Hopefully we can get some video footages

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Really wonder how many people are there

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>>141498563

EPISODE WHEN

>>141498759
Tommorow.

>>141492761
She could be a catgirl/windermere half

>>141491618
Why does Freya looks so cute with kemonomimi while the others look so lame?

>>141497632
>>141498640
>the shape of the stage is a triangle
JUST

【速報】ファーストライブ｢Walküre Attack!｣追加公演決定！続報はマクロスΔ8話、または公式サイトをCheck！

7/6 ワルキューレアルバム発売
全12曲
YES

>>141500204
12 songs?
we only heard like 5-6 songs so far right? that's a lot.

>>141500367
I think we're at 7 now and we're supposed to get around one new song per ep.

>>141491618
>ears on side of her head

how they going to explain this to the locals

>>141500204
Geez, they can release around 3 album when the tv series end. And if it's following the tradition, there will be a bunch of OVA/Movie following soon which means more songs.

>>141497632
Why didn't they get a bigger stage?

>>141500867
It was only a small performance and they didn't sing that many songs from what I hear.

>>141497632
Oh god, look at those space, how low Macross has fallen...

At least when it's May'n and Ranka's first mini live, the venue is overly bustling, but look at this shit.

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>>141501614
You're a faggot.

>>141501614
Tickets were sold out, meaning all the available space was taken. That image was before the girls performed. If you look at images during their performance, you'd see how pack it was. Also area with space is for walkway, so people can move around.

Everyone appreciates Frontier and the success it did for the series. But just like every good thing, it must come to an end. Frontier has passed the baton to Delta.

It's Delta's time to shine. Delta too will have to give up the baton, but for now let it enjoy any success it is getting.

>>141501501
HOLY SHIT

IS THAT 5% OFF?! THAT'S HUGE

>>141501047
were all walkure members present?

>>141503039
No only the singing voice for Freyja and Mikumo

>>141503198
So only JUNNA and Minori Suzuki? Though they are main singers of Walkure its a little disappoint the others weren't there.

>>141498563
>>141498640
There are a lot of girls.

>>141502910
Nah, its 5% going to some sort of points

>>141503304
>>141503323
So Keith's Draken III head is suppose to resemble that of a dragon's hence its name.

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I just finished watching 7. It was fucking amazing.
I can't beleive there are people who don't like it.

>>141500549
So it's only a 13 episode series?

>>141503979
26/27, there will be another album.

http://music-book.jp/music/news/news/118608
01. 恋! ハレイション THE WAR〜without Freyja〜
　作詞 : 深川琴美・姉田ウ夢ヤ 作曲・編曲 : 姉田ウ夢ヤ ストリングス編曲 : 倉内達矢
02. 一度だけの恋なら
　作詞 : 唐沢美帆・加藤裕介 作曲・編曲 : 加藤裕介
03. ジリティックBEGINNER
　作詞 : 深川琴美 作曲・編曲 : 姉田ウ夢ヤ
04. 不確定性COSMIC MOVEMENT
　作詞 : 深川琴美・六ツ見純代・渡邊亜希子・姉田ウ夢ヤ　作曲・編曲 : 姉田ウ夢ヤ ストリングス編曲 : 倉内達矢
05. 僕らの戦場
　作詞 : 唐沢美帆・加藤裕介 作曲・編曲 : 加藤裕介
06. NEO STREAM
　作詞 : 西田恵美 作曲・編曲 : 渡辺未来 ストリングス編曲 : 倉内達矢
07．AXIA〜ダイスキでダイキライ〜
　作詞 : 六ツ見純代 作曲 : 松本良喜 編曲 : 鈴木Daichi秀行
08．GIRAFFE BLUES
　作詞 : 菜穂 作曲・編曲 : h-wonder ストリングス編曲 : 加藤裕介
09. Walkure Attack!
　作詞 : UiNA 作曲 : 小高光太郎・UiNA 編曲 : 小高光太郎
10. ルンがピカッと光ったら〜album version〜
　作詞 : 西 直紀 作曲・編曲 : コモリタミノル
11．いけないボーダーライン〜album version〜
　作詞 : 西 直紀 作曲・編曲 : コモリタミノル
12. 恋! ハレイション THE WAR〜album version〜
　作詞 : 深川琴美・姉田ウ夢ヤ 作曲・編曲 : 姉田ウ夢ヤ

>>141504045
Don't worry anons, Bokura no Senjou is here.

>>141503979
it said 1st full album here>>141501501
safe to assume there's more than one.

>>141503939
Because it has huge problems, including but not limited to, no character growth at all for the main character, monster of the week syndrome, far far too many episodes for its own good (it what, doesn't get going until the 20's? And no, the preceeding episodes weren't important, all we have is formulaic shit done over and over)

It gets better halfway admittedly

>mfw my imouto wants to get a dog and name it Freyja

>>141504045
>08．GIRAFFE BLUES
wait, what?

>>141504153
no one cares.

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>>141504146
I certainly agree that it has many obvious flaws, I just found that it was immensley fun to watch regardless.

>>141504254
I still don't enjoy most early episodes, there are a few good ones... like the one where they're getting close to a sun or something... Later the show picks up and the episodes i dislike are fewer in number.

Also doesn't help that they're mostly singing just one song in the early half, and it's one of the few FB songs I really don't like, but that's just me.

>>141504045
>07．AXIA〜ダイスキでダイキライ〜
This one will probably play on ep 10.

>>141504193
BLUES music?

>>141504045
>>141504193
>>141504346
Can i assume the rest song will also have different style than others.

>>141504346
Why? Do we have any info about ep 10?

>>141504413
Episode 10 title have "AXIA".

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>>141504376
Kawamori said Walkure will sing lots of different types of songs, so yeah. The only thing they all have in common until now is that they are songs full of energy. I hope we get a ballad, though.

>>141504413
we had episode titles up to 10 i believe. Fuck me if I remembered what they were

>>141504413
Wasn't it called "The light of Axia" or something like that?

>>141504438
>>141504446
>>141504471
I see. I don't remember it at all. The song's title doesn't really help give any more info either.

>>141504355
yeah, but about giraffe? really?
then again,
ragna > some sort of fish man
voldor > cat people
one of the other planet might be about giraffe

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They did a concert for Macross delta today?

>>141504536
Nope. A lot of people just decided to gather in one place for no particular reason.

>>141504551
What?

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>>141504568
You know. The Gathering.

>>141504491
大好きで大嫌い
sounds like a tsundere song

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>>141504536

looks like it

>>141504613
so, messer's song?

Mirage is the best! She's earnest! She's cute!

>>141504637
>waccine mini live
they manage to prevent a var outbreak today

>>141504637
they're all var'ed. DECULTURE

>>141504643
Or Freyja's love and hate relationship with Winderemere

Haven't been in the threads for a while, did that spoiler for episode 8 ever get verified?

>>141504807
Yes, it was legit.

>>141504807
Yeah, it's true.

>>141504807
what spoiler?

>>141505088
Bogue x Furefure
They got captured. Torture scenes.

>>141505088
They get captured on Vordor and Hayate gets beaten to a pulp while protecting Freyja and Bogue and the rest feel remorse when they see her reaction.

>>141496105
Not mad, just disappointed

>>141504927
>>141504866
You all were saying it's fake just a week ago.

>>141505174
>Bogue and the rest feel remorse
That's wrong translate, they actually even more high when Freyja is crying.

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>I will never go to a Waccine live

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>JUNBI WA II KA NE?

8話「脱出 レゾナンス」
空中騎士団の身体能力の高さに、まるで歯が立たないハヤテとミラージュ。
ハヤテはフレイアを庇おうとするが、完膚なきまでに叩きのめされてしまう。
フレイアの悲痛な叫びに、ボーグたちはウィンダミアの大義をぶつける。

>ボーグたちはウィンダミアの大義をぶつける。
Bogue and the rest use "muh Winderemere justice" to fight back Freyja's crying.
Not sure why it translated to Bogue feels guilty or something, that doesn't make any sense for the story.

>>141505208
People thought it was fake stove there was no proof but as you can see from the episode preview it was legit.

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\/\/

What would be Mirage's conflict? It seems hers are not going to be as heavy as Freyjas outside of muh heritage and she's not getting gud at doing her job.

>>141505362
This turns me on. I hope they get violent

>>141505409
So far the main 3 only Freyja's conflict is heavy, unless some plot twist happen to Hayate and/or Mirage.

>>141505409
Maybe when the romance kicks in she'll feel conflicted about getting inbetwen Freyja and Hayate because of Freyja's Dark Ages lifespan?

>>141505362
Even Kieth? What the fuck.
I thought he was a good guy

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Minmay that's not the right VF

>>141505362
Bogue is a huge tsundere. Mark my words, he will help Freyja and others to escape.

>>141505482
Nah we only know Bogue is there, from the OP scene i think Keith won't be with them.

>>141505482
It only mentions Bogue specifically.

>>141505386
>red, pink and green

>>141505540
>he will help Freyja and others to escape.
I doubt it.

>>141505409
Living up to the insane pressures of being a Jenius?

>>141505726
>outside of muh heritage and she's not getting gud at doing her job.

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anyone know where I can find subs for this interview?

>>141505613
He calls Freyja a traitor, but by releasing her he will become one himself. Can't you feel the POETRY of this situation? It would be a crime to miss an opportunity for this kind of development.

>>141505726
I seriously think that what you brought up is not as heavy what Freyja will have to go through. Freyja's problem lies not only within herself but also with the other character in the show which seems to me to have more potential to lead the story somewhere else. This is what i've interpreted from the past threads that mentioned that Mirage is being kinda irrelevant.

>>141505362
>Escape - resonance
Bogue's rune resonates with Freyja's and his inner newtype tells him to free Freyja

>>141505876
By your standard almost every character of Macross Delta is irrelevant.

Not sure why people like you want a lot character have a heavy sub-plot, this show isn't write by Jun Maeda.

>>141505953
Shit, the memefags were right.

>>141505953
I rather believe Roid or Keith or both let them go.

>>141505876
I mean it's not like Gamlin or Misa had major subplots driving the story

>>141505968
>By your standard almost every character of Macross Delta is irrelevant.
>every
To be fair, i expect more since Mirage is one of the main characters.

>Not sure why people like you want a lot character have a heavy sub-plot, this show isn't write by Jun Maeda.
It doesn't necessarily have to be like that, she's more like lacking of some things to be more interesting.

>>141505968
>Jun Maeda going to write next Macross show.
Damn i do want to see that for the trainwreck.

MIRAGEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>141506202
>To be fair, i expect more since Mirage is one of the main characters.
That's your opinion.

>It doesn't necessarily have to be like that, she's more like lacking of some things to be more interesting.
That's your opinion.

Having opinion is fine but don't expect most people wanting the same, most of them just want their favorite character have happy life, not "major sub-plot" for suffering.

>>141506262
Cool bait faggot.

>>141506274
>most of them just want their favorite character have happy life, not "major sub-plot" for suffering.
Unlike Ranka of course

>>141506337
Ranka is a loser.

>>141505362
One thing i want to know, they sure beating Hayate in episode 8, but will they beat Mirage too?

>>141506484
They will force Mirage to kiss with Freyja.

>>141505362
>空中騎士団の身体能力の高さに、まるで歯が立たないハヤテとミラージュ。
>ハヤテはフレイアを庇おうとするが、完膚なきまでに叩きのめされてしまう。
>フレイアの悲痛な叫びに、ボーグたちはウィンダミアの大義をぶつける。

Hayate an Mirage can do nothing against the heightened physical abilities of the aerial knights. Hayate tries to cover Freyja but gets completely beaten to a pulp. Before Freyja's sad crying, Bogue & Co come to a head with the moral justifications of Windermere.

Something like that anyway. It means he doesn't really feel like he's on the moral high ground, wouldn't go so far to say he's questioning anything tho, but its affecting him.

I'm guessing he'll get angry at roid or something and go "why are we making girls cry?"

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Oh good this one doesn't have Reirei's sig covered

>>141506546
>People die.
Muh justice.
>Girl cry.
Oh no. What have we done.

>>141506573
Her sig is green jelly fish.

>>141506274
Wanting change characters to impact the plot doesn't necessarily equate to wanting them to suffer.

>>141506546
>Before Freyja's sad crying
There is no "before" in that line.

>Bogue & Co come to a head with the moral justifications of Windermere.
This happens after Freyja's crying.

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>>141506587
YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THEIR STRUGGLE

>>141497311

That's xenophobic.

>>141506661
I hope this ends with a genocide on Windermere.

>>141506484
She ended up in a rape Dungeon.

>>141506587
That's not what episode 8 summary said, maybe they will questioning themselves in that episode, but not in this spoiler.

It feels like Boguefags really want to push their meme OTP but i recommended them at least wait til that episode aired.

>>141506644
The ni, bruh. Take your pick in how you want in English

Guys seriously, at this point just wait for the episode

>>141505471
I think this is what's going to happen. She'll try to push Freyja and Hayate together while ignoring her own feelings, or those of Freyja and Hayate.

>>141492647
Basara a shit.

>>141506661
New Unified Government are killing us on trade. Windmere was run by people who didn't know what they were doing. We can't afford to be the stupid ones any longer

why is this shit not more popular?

>>141506877
you mean here? I dunno, it's watered down with mecha action?

>>141506877
because /a/ love shit shows like that rip-off from a shit show

>>141497632
Wait a minute.
That looks like that zentradi mall in Frontier.

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>>141506762
Her profile is about her spilling spaghetti in romance so I'm sure she's not going to stick to being the noble confidant.
Who wants a messy triangle though when everything is already pretty comfy?

>>141506877
Because it isn't the dank meme anime of the season

>>141507197
>Her profile is about her spilling spaghetti in romance
Where?

>Who wants a messy triangle though when everything is already pretty comfy?
It's fun!

>>141505409
Trying to not let her alien genetics take over making her rape Freyja

>>141504146
There is nothing wrong with having a static main character and MotW formula. Just because they aren't your cup of tea doen't mean they are objectively bad or flaws.

>>141507288
Something about it going out of the way in saying that because of her personality, she's timid when it comes to matters of romance or some shit.

>>141507335
>Mirage bursts into a Zentradi filled rage after walking in on Hayate and Freyja.

>>141507421
It said that due to her personality she has no experience when it comes to romance.

>>141506877
Because no fucking exposure and license of Macross to the West. Harmony Gold keeps cockblocking anyone from acquiring it and modern anime fans in the West don't give a fuckunless there's a simulcast airing.

>>141507457
>Freyja overpowers her with her superior Wind genetics and rapes her instead

>>141506573
>>141506605
CUTE

>>141506573
How the fuck does Kumo's sig work?

>>141507544
What Mirage would try to steal Hayate's seed

>>141507598
>Hayate and Freya have casual vanilla sex.
>When Hayate goes off to the seacat, Mirage blackmail Freya.
>Mirage proceeds to rape Freya multiple time for Hayate's semen.
> Freya becomes a mind broken slut craving more and more for more kinky things.

I can get behind this! Doujin can't come fast enough.

>>141507402
7's MOTW formula was pretty awful though. There are many ways to do it right but that wasn't it.

>>141507689
>When Hayate goes off to the seacat
Is this cheating?

In Greek αξία means "value" and "worth".

>>141507585
What do you mean?

Was Minmay's singing ever any good or did the Zentraedi just not know any better?

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Damn, I laughed during this scene

HHHHHNNNGGGGG so much

>>141508008
MISA IS CUTE

CUTE

>>141508043
hahaha, no.

>>141508080
This.

Jesus, Max...

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This is the most likable ugly character I've ever seen

>>141508343
>Just kill me
>So cute
>Captain, there's something I need to tell you
>What's that?
>I'm getting married with zentradi girl

Mad Max

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>>141508431

>>141507689
>/u/ vs /het/
Well that use can count as something new for Macross.

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/d/2016-05-13/

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>>141508431

This is his real appearance

>>141509108
Better rank than yesterday. By now it should have sold more than 15000 units.

>>141506484
>One thing i want to know, they sure beating Hayate in episode 8, but will they beat Mirage too?

That's what I'm wondering. Did they separate her from the rest of the group?

Can I watch this without watching the other seasons?

>>141509437
I just assumed Bogue is only targeting Freyja and Hayate gets beat up as a result.

>>141509477
At least watch Arjuna first

I'm watching the first series, and why is Minmei such a bitch?

>>141509612
chinks not even once.

>>141509477
Yes, you can

Though this isn't like trying to get into the main universe of gundam where you need to watch a dozen series. There's only been three previous TV series and a couple of oavs.

>>141509612
immature young teenager that takes things for granted

>>141509437
Hayate did Gamlin kick to him. He's just paying back the favor.

>>141509802
would he even have a clue that was Hayate?

>>141508548
How can one Zentrant be this moe?

>>141509437
I'm not surprise if Roid know she's Jenius and give her better treatment.

>>141510387
>Bogue: Around terran never relax

so can you sexualy stimulate a windermerian by the rune?

>>141510477
Bogue probably pays on Windermere imageboards about how protocolture species should stay worn their own kind.

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>>141510549
I hope we have doujinshi to figure that out

>>141491618
Macross
Girls
Sexy

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#1 on AmiAmi as well

>>141505386
>Only two members

Looks lonely as FUCK up there

>>141491618
Serious question: when will Mirage get good?

>>141511734
The others are irrelevant.

>>141511734
It's a mini-live for a reason

I LOVE MESSER!

>>141511835
The others are more like the secondary pilots to the main character like how it tends to be for the MCs squadron in a Macross series except they can actually market them

Why don't the other Delta Shotai guys get anything?

>>141511772
When Hayate shows her how to loosen up.

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>>141512819
I meant with merch

>>141512887
I want the Hayate merch. He is a cute boy.

>>141511899
Keith, please.

>>141506702
Fuck you. They should be made into sex slaves.

>>141512887
>Mirage's clown fish get's one but not based Seacat

>>141513041
Clownfish is cuter

>>141513015
>superior physical endurance
>qt space fucbois
>short life is a pro or con depending on the owner

I want one.

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>mfw Windermere bombs their own planet to prevent NUNS from controlling it

>>141506661
>oh noes, evil offworlders monopolized everything
Haha, what a bunch of faggots.
Zentradi invasion on them!

>>141513319
Well there's also the very possible chance that the NUG did fuck them up somehow.

Like if we found out they were the ones who made that big ass scar

I know many of you have read this article but is the writer fucking serious? I thought it's just a satire because how incredibly retarded his reasons were.

http://www.therobotsvoice.com/2009/12/8_reasons_why_robotech_is_better_than_macross.php

>>141513572
>@ robotechx dot com
>all laughing

>>141513572
>I know many of you have read this article
Have we?

Oh wait, is this the one that gets spammed on /m/ a lot? I tend to just hide that because it's a relic of the AND WE AT ROBOTECHX.COM ARE ALL LAUGHING days

Is the insert song albulm CD out yet?

>>141509235
only after he made him self big again and altered him self to keep his memory and thinking from failing.

>>141513812
You mean the vocal one? That's not until June

>>141513481
iirc they said the windniggers used the weapon and the UN signed a armistice so it's still all their fault since they technically won but want more cuz muh honor or some bullshit

i fucking hate all of the windniggers
not muh nigga freya tho she cool

>>141513319
>supporting colonialism
You deserve to be Vared to death.

>>141514341
>iirc they said the windniggers used the weapon
Where?

>>141514579
probably episode 5 somewhere

i'm probably losing my mind or something

still hate them windniggers though

>>141515288
Windermere has literally done nothing wrong

Okay so they try to kill some cute girls on a weekly basis

>>141514341
>iirc they said the windniggers used the weapon
That would be hilarious.

>>141515776
No, it's not.

>>141515810
>hurr durr we are the successors to Protoculture
>muh wind muh wind muh wind
>use giant energy weapon
>it fucks up their own planet

>>141515895
windniggers are literally Belkans.

>>141514534
Shut up, Puerto Rico.

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Apparently this is a gathering today at a mall for a free Walkure disc launch event. Japan, idols etc.

>>141515895
They used a dimensional shield during their war for independence. It wasn't a giant energy weapon.

>>141506877

Because people really seem to hate anything with mecha in it now unless it's Sony mass marketed garbage like Aldnoah.Zero. It's doing better than Gundam at least which will earn you a "fuck off to /v/" pretty much everytime from the awesome /a/ crowd

>>141515895
Great logic there. So if someone is beating the shit out of you and you break your hand trying to defend yourself you're pathetic and deserve to be mocked for injuring yourself.

I seriously can't believe that you faggots are justifying humanshits invading a planet that was already inhabited by a sentient race and oppressing them for generations.

>>141516100
Looks 'shopped.

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>>141506877
Pretty sure Frontier was more popular on /a/, daily dose from the episode 1 preview on to the very end.

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>>141506456

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NmdptpONjE

>>141506877
The newfags won.

>>141516100
Me on the top right.

>>141516257
They might be sentient but they're not human.
Though ideally they would just exterminate them, the situation right now wouldn't be happening.

>>141512868
>When Hayate loosens up her tight pussy

>>141496013

Serious idols now

>>141516257
>invading a planet that was already inhabited by a sentient race
You mean landing on a planet and giving its barbaric inhabitants CULTURE and TECHNOLOGY.

>>141516257
Fuck off Bouge

>>141516445
They already had their own culture, idiot. It doesn't matter if they gave them more advanced technology when the settlers treated them like shit on their homeworld.

>>141516100
I think that's from the mini-live. There are pictures in this thread

>>141516445
Nigger, did you just imply colonialism is a good thing?

>>141516257
Fucking ungratful snowniggers, the true heirs gave you everything and the only things you give in return is HURR DURR MUH WIND, MUH LIFESPAN, Fuck off.

>>141516224
Did people start liking Aldonah Zero? I feel like the second season and the ending had everyone consider it garbage and no one really talks about it anymore

>>141516445
Ragnas are the ones who were barbaric, in the flashback it looks like they were all naked and living in the sea and had zero technology. Winderme pre colonialism looks like pre-industrial human society.

>>141516594
You must gave quite good connection today, posting all the way from Windershit

If the Windermere's were using their own VF tech like the Protodevlin they would have a better leg to stand on but the SVs were tech from the Spacy

>>141516283
2008 was a different time

>>141516748
Maybe they had all the technology you see on their planet (sans space flight) and were just having a beach party when humanity showed up.

>>141516839
Oh but just to be clear, the Protodevlin's mecha aren't VFs. They are just based off of them

>>141516594
We only have Windermere's word to go on here, and empirical evidence is against them. Ragna and Zola are doing just fine, and Eden is basically a paradise world.

Shit, the only reason they're able to wage their stupid war in the first place is by using human-derived technology. Without it they'd be stuck on their planet jerking each other's runes off, or whatever their "culture" is.

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>>141516748
More like medieval peasants

>>141506877
Why do you want to turn these thread into shitposting? it's good like this.

>>141516891
All their fighters are derivatives of the VF-14, except for the FBz-99, which is a derivative of the VAB-2. Their entire warfleet was reverse-engineered from the UN colony fleet that landed on Varuta.

>>141516828
Still butthurt from the war you lost it seems Earthling faggot.

>>141516982
What happened to the colony fleet that landed on Varuta?

>>141516982
Yeah they're derivatives, not the geniune article. Windermere's Draken's are legit VFs

>>141516999
>>141516828
Stop roleplaying

>>141516896
Guess we'll see in the next episode. If everyone is not under mind-control and happy that the Spacey is gone, then the Windermere is right. If not, then the Spacey is right.

>>141517046
What if no one's right?

What if this is all a giant ruse from a third party like Frontier again?

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>>141516257
it just means they're laughably incompetent

>>141516896
They are probably being manipulated by an Anti-UN humans. And to be fair the UN is really uncaring.

>>141517116
That kinda absolves the Windermere then, since they were played like pawns.

>>141517116
It just means the winds are a bunch of stupid manchildren easily duped.

>>141517174
They are being played like pawns. Their Tech is from Russian and China remnants who in Macross are anti-UN.
True Enemy will be in the second half and Windmereans will admit they were wrong.

>>141517034
Used as the cannon fodder.

>>141517166
It's hard to believe that the Anti-UN is even still around after Space War I and 50 years of expansion. Even by Macross Zero they were basically wiped out. How did any of them survive Boldolza's bombardment, let alone manage to make it off Earth in the first place?

Also the NUG's hands-off policy is pretty much the only way they can manage that much territory. The galaxy is a big place, letting colony fleets basically govern themselves is really the only option.

>>141517233
Just like all of those SEA monkey nations.

>>141517046
>If everyone is not under mind-control and happy that the Spacey is gone, then the Windermere is right.
No, those fuckers can be happy with this situation because of their stupidity and ignorance. They could be like islamists in central african countries who oppose against culture and technology because of their religion. They live in shit, they have no food, their children die of poliomyelitis and сholera, but they are still bomb factories and clinics.

>>141491618
>this picture
It seems like they're visiting an area familiar to Freyja.

Also mikumo with Cat ears wheN?

>>141517290
Doubtful. Remember, no one has yet to call out Windermere on their claims yet. The most we've gotten is that 'it's complicated'. It's most likely a case of asshole colonists on the Megaroad and Spacey not willing to punish them on it due to so many conflicts they are facing across the galaxy and since humanity needs those colonies to survive.

>>141517116
Well, their technology actually is from Anti-UN crowd, unlike Frontier, where is was just Kawamori going Sukhoi fanboy

>>141517233
You mean just like humanity was easily duped many times in the past in their own history.

>>141517368
>It seems like they're visiting an area familiar to Freyja.
Nah, Freyja never left her planet before episode 1.

>>141517388
So asshole colonists are being like Asshole tourists then?

>>141517368
>It seems like they're visiting an area familiar to Freyja.
No it's just Vordor

>>141516717

No it just got actual attention unlike most mecha things on account of the advertising exposure and popular names it had that unsurprisingly did shit all for it's actual quality. Still far more than most mecha series will ever get outside of SEA anymore. From what I can tell pretty much everybody thinks it's a laughing stock of an attempt to create a modern Gundam franchise of Sony's own.

>>141517233
You realize the UN forces has been duped multiple times right?

>>141517332
Anon. Do you really have no idea just how much colonialism has fucked up the world? Seriously, almost every single shithole in the modern world is a result of the massive fuck-ups the old world superpowers had deliberately done for profit.

It's fucking Saturday and you know what you need to listen to?

This garbage, for the upteenth million time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C1Bh8FTlpY

>>141517036
Are you kidding? The Draken is more of an original design, while the entire Elgerzorone family was literally a canopyless Vampire.

>>141517449
More like colonialism at its absolute worst. Shit was fucked up.

>>141517319
There must be survivors, I remember that there was some shelters in Russia who survived Space War I, maybe some scientists survived and departed on the emigration fleets and continued their researches in the outer rim.

>>141491618
>>141517450
One does not simply walk into Vordor.

>>141517553
But they have an SV designation so they were clearly part of Spacy production

>>141517548
>It's fucking Saturday and you know what you need to listen to?
Holy Lonely Light?
What bout my Star?
Ikenai Borderline?

Anything else besides that fucking song?

>>141517332
>>141517504
Not to mention the middle east was pretty normal before other countries came in and started overthrowing rulers for oil.

>>141517413
>>141517493
Yes, I mean no one is exempt from this, some more easily than others.

>>141517332
>culture and technology because of their religion
Most I know may not like the culture part, but they definitely like the technology part.

>>141517664
Lmfao ok muhammed

Underwater Ray Amano episode?

>>141517585
It's harder to believe the ideal could survive that long. Sure, they had justification for that back when the UN was trying to conquer the world because of imaginary space giants, but that sort of separatist logic doesn't really make sense. Does GLORIOUS RUSSIA even still matter in a day and age when you're living on another planet and banging your hot Zolan waifu? Shit, even being part of the UN really only means anything as far as what flag is above your president's house.

>>141517848
I don't see why not. I mean, remember, they were all stuck in a colony ship. Without any outside interference, It's one huge echo-chamber. If the people on board still believes in those ideals, it will inevitably continue to persist and even thrive under those conditions.

>>141517691
Yeah but the NUG is literally idiots a lot

>>141518048
How does they actually differ from old UNG?

>>141516748
Windermere clearly have protoculture relics and shit on their planet

Nothing THEY invented in other words

>>141517504
Yeah, look how Zimbabwe flourished after they kicked out all the whities that were taking their land.

>>141518013
Sure but how those ideals can be justified now? because the UN was right in every way after the rain of death.

by 2067, each sectors is autonomous/independants, the NUG is just a name only, separatist ideology is kinda stupid if the NUG already gave them their freedom.

>>141517664
When precisely was the middle east 'pretty normal?' Before 2001 when Afghanistan was under the Paki inteligence sevrics proxy, the Taliban control and the Kurds were getting BTFO by everyone, or when Kuwait was getting invaded because Iraq needed money to pay for losing a decade of using chemical weapons and against Iranian child soldiers? I guess the first 'overthrow dictator' was the Shah, where the entire populace of Iran was just being mindslaves of the CIA and so clearly had no responsibility for their own actions during their revolution. But then you've got the entire Arab world declaring war on Israel and losing badly, over and over again. If none of these was it when they were part of various empires, maybe we can blame their shittiness on Britain/France and Ottoman imperialism is A++, or maybe under the Sultanate they had their true rulers, or the Caliphate, or the Byzantine Empire or maybe it's been a backwards part of nowhere land that's been traded like a bitch between various empires since the Romans and you're blaming all of their problems on the US because they happen to been the most recent power to want some resources from that shithole.

>>141518183
Which is a result of centuries of oppression carried over from the colonialism era. If they had bothered to actually impart knowledge instead of exploiting their natural resources, then they wouldn't have run themselves into the ground. Seriously, what did you expect if you force them to live in quasi-subhuman lifestyle for a long time, and then leave? That they suddenly act like civilized and knowledgeable people that's capable of running their own country? That's like saying your kids will turn out completely fine after you had beat them on a daily basis throughout their childhood.

>>141518147
That's probably because they never discovered those relics until the colonists came. And who's to say they didn't invent anything? They may have been more primitive but their short lifespans drives them to do many feats.

>>141518373
/a/ can't into realpolitik anon, they are mostly degenerates who enjoy globalist cock in ass. Windemere did nothing wrong, let the Spacy fags enjoy their one galactic government propaganda

>>141518379
It's totally not because zimbabwe citizens have sub 90 iqs and can't into farming guys

>>141517504
>These people couldn't possibly fuck up on their own.
>They can't possibly be held back by their own primitive beliefs
>The white man HAS to be problem for everything, brown people just don't have any agency
yawn

>>141518140
It's about the "same" Gov't as before. They just granted more autonomy to emigration fleets and colony planets. The NUN Spacy garrisons are sanctioned by them. They're really more of a stronger modern-day UN than the one-world-government they were from Space War I until after 7 sometime.

They are way more powerful around Earth and Eden though.

This being Macross I'm pretty sure both parties will be at fault but at the same time have valid points. There may even be a mysterious third party involved, who knows.

>>141516257
They didn't complain about being invaded in their declaration of war, they just said something stupid about exploitative economic agreements which sounds like they were made to sign the TPP or whatever.

>>141518379
So Ian Smith was completely right and the 1961 constitution followed to the letter so that progress to majority rule would only happen after the majority was educated, through programs his government spent a lot of money funding. But a las the liberals in the first world thought they knew better than the people living their and forced him to hand over power to a terrorist and an ill-educated populace who had grown to population levels unsustainable without at least an 18th century understanding of agriculture ended in disaster.

>>141518530
No, it's because they never really taught them how to farm. Seriously, they never made any serious attempts to transfer knowledge. They mostly kept it to themselves so they can profit off of the other people's ignorances.

>>141518634
probably a fire themed planet

I mean, we have Earth, Wind and a Water themed planet represented already....

>>141518676
It's a pretty clear reference to the 'unfair treaties' forced on Japan by turning up on their doorstep with gunboats or China by walking into their capital with an army.

>>141517504
Not all of them, former colonies like Hong Kong and Malaysia and Singapore (i.e. the ones with a strong Chinese ethnicity presence) are doing very well, while dominions like Canada and Australia are doing even better.

>>141518768
And first step from Mugabe was obviously to invite experts in from other countries to teach them modern farming.

>>141518539
No one is saying they wouldn't have fucked up on their own, but rather that we would never know due to just how much colonialism has really fucked up the world. I mean, seriously, the shit that the US and USSR did to other countries during the cold war is a tiny speck when compared to the fuckhuge shitstorm that was colonialism. When I say shit was bad, it is actually an understatement.

>>141518768
You're too smart to believe that nobody attempted to teach them agriculture. The answer is too complicated for an anime discussion.

>>141518631
Yeah, aren't the core worlds very pro-Earth? With Earthlings, Zentradi and Zolans among them.

>>141516659
Colony advances and reaches third world status and gets to sell resources to their masters for money in order to earn more idol CDs, its a win-win situation.

>>141518379
Who do you think was employed on these farms run by whites? You imagine that the evil whites somehow managed to have the locals work for them while keeping all the secrets of farming from them?
It was the retarded locals themselves that run off not only the whites running these plantations but also the locals that were working there and had the most experience and knowledge.

>>141518888
yawn

>>141518385
>They may have been more primitive but their short lifespans drives them to do many feats.
Short lifespan is actually preventing them from any technological advancement. Even with our level of technology it takes 10 year of school and 5 years of university to get a proper education. The average age of getting PhD is above 30 which is beyond windermerian lifespan. Windniggers would die before they learn our current level of knowledge and they definitely won't have any time to discover something new. That's why they would be stuck with their pre-industrial society forever if not for human colonists.

>>141518827
I don't get it. I said shitholes not all colonies. Almost all modern shitholes is usually a result from colonialism. Not every colony was a failure, but it was more often than not, usually is. Although Singapore shouldn't be on that list since it took a literal benevolent dictator for life to fix their shit.

>>141518827
>>141518890
The answer to both these posts is that those colonies which were stable and profitable and easy to rule for the British were at least invested in and built up even as they were exploited, while colonies which they just grabbed for prestige purposes or as somewhere to dump a naval base were left as shitholes that the British were content to rule by proxy (like the Hegemonic Empire of Ancient Rome) rather than stirring things up too much by bringing people 'civilisation' in earnest. With the muddled exception of missionaries, who had a habit of making these arrangements rather awkward.

>>141518888
>all this guilt
wow they got you good

who's even the retarded SJW that started talking about colonialism? Look at Ragna. That's the "colonialism" in macross. They fucking love each other.