Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1539

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Reminder that suggestions are being adopted in the guide again so you should go make some.

>>141461598
My suggestion - delete the guide.

聞きたいことがあったら何でも聞いてくれ！！
答えねえけどなｗ！！( ･`ω･´)

アッポを放した。

Which thread?

>>141461737
苦楚を食べました。

>that guy that tries to learn Japanese using rōmaji

>>141461816
>that guy that tries to learn Japanese using anki

>that guy that tries to learn Japanese using RTK

what does 'kokoloko' mean? I kept hearing it everywhere

My Japanese language learning is fueled with hatred to the Japanese. I am jealous at how they're good at everything from anime to cars to space programs. With those things, the Japanese should have the right look down on other Asians and get away with murder and rape that they did on other countries. Most Asians think that the Japanese are rich people. The people here think that Japanese people are hard-working rich people, but I don't believe so. They're pathetic, unhappy people who are just too dumb to invent anything. I wish I could look down on the Japanese, but I can't because they're way too good at everything.

>>141461851
It has the anime meaning of "first sex"

>>141461873
>I am jealous at how they're good at everything
>Japan is responsible for the creation of anime
ｗｗ爆笑

>>141461873
cont. The only thing they're bad at is English. Being bad at English doesn't mean they're dumb, it just means that they're culturally superior to any other race. While most of the people here are good at English which is generally useless on other fields while the Japanese are good at science, calculus, and physics which is generally useful on almost any fields. Many Asian countries rely to the Japanese on anything technology related but nobody relies on these countries on anything technology related which is sad.

>>141461851
cum inside

What does すごい mean? I don't want to learn this stupid language but I hear it very often in anime.

>>141462109
google it retard

>>141462109
the pleasure of being cummed inside

>>141462139
How do you unironically say that in Japanese?

>>141461969
cont. I used to idolize Japan a lot especially their weather and nature. The Sakura trees are beautiful, their cities are clean and safe, and how their history is so great. But there are some people who has awoken of the Japanese dream. Japan is just like any other country out there. I realized there's nothing good in Japan if you scrap out the anime fever. Everything is claustrophobic, Japanese people look down on you for being white, black, or brown. Their behavior is worse than the Korean's plastic surgery. They think they're innocent of the war crimes that their forefathers did. Nothing is good in living or working in Japan. I'd rather stay on my home and help my country to be better than Japan even though it's impossible to achieve that in my lifetime, but I know it will come in the future. It will come in the future.

Thesis/End.

>>141462170
you say "すごい"

>>141462136
Fuck you. Good luck learning a useless language.
>>141462139
But I hear it in anime aimed at children (most anime). I'm sure they wouldn't say it in those shows.

>>141462199
>good luck learning a useless language
Says the retard relying on people who know said language to be able to access Chinese cartoons

>>141462239
>who know said language
Being able to read porn manga isn't knowing a language lol
Good luck learning something so utterly useless. Every anime is translated these days.

>>141462267
A shitload of LNs and VNs are not translated
>a language is only useful if it helps from an economical standpoint
Good luck being a wageslave for the rest of your life.

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>Core 2k/6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary

How good will my Japanese be after I'm done with that deck? (let's say I'm done with the grammar as well)
I mean there are 1608 kanji in that deck, but there exist quite a few more than that.

Will I already be good enough, so I only add words I don't know every now and then, or do I have to go for another deck after that?

>>141462331
LNs and VNs are trash. Just like manga.
I didn't say anything about money. A language like Japanese is useless since it's only used in one country and this country produces mostly garbage media.

>>141462267
Go back to /v/ or whatever shit hole you're coming from faggot.

You won't get any help here.

>>141462334
How good will you be inside anki? Depends on you, maybe pretty good.
How good will you be outside of it? You will have 0 vocab.

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>>141462372

>>141462385
>>141462407
Did I offend your anime feelings? I'll be going now.
Have a great time learning the language of a racist, garbage media producing country.

>>141462393
何？
No idea what you just said.

Great thread

>>141461562
infinite loop

>>141462431
Anki won't help you in learning vocabulary. It is mainly used as a placebo.

>>141462456
you are wrong

>>141462495
I presume this is your method of making the placebo effect stronger?

>>141462456
Ok I'll bite, what do you suggest then?

I'm currently using anki for the 2k6 deck and the yotsubato reading deck alongside it, so I can put my Japanese to some use soon, since I think using the language is when you really start to learn it.

What's wrong with it, or what could I improve?

>>141462602
He's baiting.

ジャマルさん。。。

>>141462334
Doing the entire deck is probably not a good idea. Going at a pace of more than 20 cards a day ends badly for most people (poor retention, tons of reviews each day), and at that pace it would take you 300 days to get through it. After 2000 words, it's best to make the jump to mining. It'll be hard at first, but spending the best part of a year just drilling vocab would feel very tedious and unrewarding, I expect, and even if you did it, your vocab would still be too small to read comfortably.

>>141462602
>using the language is when you really start to learn it.
Do this instead of anki.

日本人のことをJAPて言うな
日本人に対しものすごい失礼だ

>>141462668
Not him but what do you mean by mining?

>>141462727
I hate ジャップズ

>>141462757
It's explained in the guide. CTRL+F for "mining".

>>141462757
A self created placebo deck. Not that different from a premade placebo deck.

>>141462757
Reading and adding words you come across to an Anki deck.

>>141462727
But they are not 人間 why would it matter?

>>141462788
>>141462799
I see, thank you.

I fucking despise アニメ

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>>141462932
>man whom enjoys something is informed he is wrong

>>141463050
I think アニメ is morally wrong

>>141462932
I fucking despise Japan and how pathetic the Japanese are.

>>141463140
プラス壱

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あたしがねむるまでてをつないでいてね

やくそくだよおにいいちゃん

>>141463261
How much do you charge for 一時間? I've heard that ジャップ犬国 has a lot of cheap 売女

Is there a deck for hentai vocabulary?

>>141463948
I don't think so, but there really should be

>>141462334
Just start mining when you're done with core, or even before that. I halted the new cards when I got to 4k.

あッぽヲ食べましタ。

>>141464170
漫画わ糞

how to download and add cards to anki?

>>141464298
commit sudoku

i can't open a card I made anyone help?

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>>141464565

>>141464237
>わ

>>141464772
>アニメちゃん doesn't understand アニメ日本語
ワロタ you are truly a strange creature.

so i opened a card how to review it now?

>>141464941
>>141464631
Can someone ban them already?

>>141465016
i just want to learn please can you help? i can't figure out the anki in 2 days...

うん子を食べマした。

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お前達も無理だ

>>141465101
You can't learn Japanese.

What does this mean?
兄さん。It's a line from vn

>>141465280
yeah i know this :D it's called dekinai
how do i install anki though? please help

>>141465285
Are you telling me you are playing a game in Japanese and don't know that word?

>>141465374
Yes i'm playing a shitty game now tell me this word or i will 斬る you

i opened a card now where do I click to make it go?

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I don't want to talk like a news caster, but I still need to be able to understand them when I watch the news.

I don't want to talk like an anime hero would, but I still need to be able to understand them when I watch anime.

I don't want to talk like an action movie star, but I still need to be able to understand them when I watch action movies.

I don't want to talk like an ancient samurai, but I still need to be able to understand them when I watch historical drama.

Learning from all of these sources are fine, as INPUT is entirely different than OUTPUT. You should strive to experience a wide variety of inputs to be able to understand things in general.

A lot of anime in particular can have Slice of Life style situations too, so it's not that far removed from normal everyday dialogue.

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>>141465559
>>141465320
>>141465101
For future reference (on how to tell if something is a shitpost):
>calls the community made guide/whatever method a piece of shit with no reasoning given why
>insults someone giving helpful advice with no reasoning given why
>attempts to create arguments over virtually nothing (eg opinions without facts)
>"spam questions" that are easily answered via a 1 second glance at the guide
>uses obtuse Japanese fragments interspersed with English to attempt bypass people trying to filter the shitposts
>any mention of anime being shit, or "real Japanese"
>spells the word as romanji
It's pretty easy to tell at this point.

For newcomers, if in doubt, use the guide's advice as a fallback if you're genuinely not sure if it's "shitpost advice" or not.

It's in bright red in the OP image AND the OP text says "Read the guide before asking questions" so there is zero excuse for this spam.

>>141465710
Everyone that isn't a complete newfag would spot these shitposters by the way they type alone.

>>141465710
The guide is shit. You are a retard. Anki is placebo. How do I download anki? You are an アニメ坊主. Anime isn't Japanese. ロマン字.

↑This is all 事実.↑

i downloaded a card now the only thing is review how do i open it an review it?

>>141465016
Mods refuse to moderate these threads for some reason. Unless he starts spamming cp, they won't do anything.

>>141465710
90% of the posts in this thread are shitposts around this time, it's better to just avoid coming here completely for a couple of hours until the autist goes to bed and then the thread becomes usable again

Yesterday I think he fucked off around about 6 UK time, maybe a bit earlier

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>>141465710
i think you hit a soft spot>>141465844

>>141465710
>"spam questions" that are easily answered via a 1 second glance at the guide
This is factually incorrect. You can't go very far into the guide in 1 second.

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AnkiFuraiday.

Post some Fu's.

>>141465986
I'm living the anime life so there isn't any point in monitoring my sleeping cycle lmao

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>>141465830
Regulars would know of course.

However, new comers to the thread (and arguably mods who aren't studying Japanese) wouldn't necessarily know. If we don't start calling out the bullshit spam, nothing is going to change - we've been waiting a little while now already.

If we can't rely on mods to actually do their job, we need to make the bullshit more transparent: less people will respond to the spam & more importantly less misinformation will be spread.

>>141466024
できない暗期婦アンキ府で着なあい暗記好きいいとても好きいい暗器婦ちゃん好きいい安危ふちゃんがすきい

>>141466058
>If we don't start calling out the bullshit spam
Is this really the best you ベータズ can come up with? I suggest we report and ignore.

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>>141466024
てのひらをしたにむけてふるのが

にほんでは「こっちにきてください」のしぐさだよ

「去れ」の合図じゃないからきをつけてね

>>141465710
I say we make this part of the OP.

>>141466058
Has anyone actually tried getting the mods attention about this? It's kind of ridiculous that it's been going on for so long and results in the thread becoming unusable for half the day every day

>>141466151
マイちんぽが好き？ジャップいぬｗｗ日本＝オタク精神科病院

>>141466139
Giving them the benefit of the doubt, my best guess is that the mods are ignorant in regards to reading Japanese / this thread's culture.

>>141466195
There have been times in the past when anons did report quite a few of the spam posts, only for the mods to be 100% out of the loop and assume that because the posts have "japanese" in them, they were on topic.

>>141466195
I have. I just report and ignore.

>>141462170
中出しの喜び

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>>141466024
扇風機 is also pretty racy

>>141465710
Calling anki a "placebo" is a sure sign too.

Also he samefags an incredible amount, most of the time the replies to his posts are all himself posting back and forth. In the other thread there are 10 posts but only 3 IPs. It's literally all him replying to himself.

>>141466058
This. Anyone new to the thread in the last three months probably has no idea whether the advice they're being given is nonsense or not.

>>141466195
I once messaged them on IRC and they told me to fuck off. I submitted something to feedback too but it's like they've all agreed not to moderate this thread or something.

>>141465710
Are animefag, generalfag and sakurafag the same person? There's also the guy that hated on EOP briefly, calling them out the same way animefag does (i.e randomly) and the kanji is useless guy from a week ago, I guess they're all animefag's different personas?

>>141466275
>>141466331
Fucking retarded mods

If only one of the regulars of this thread had mod status then all the problems would be solved

>>141466335
>Are animefag, generalfag and sakurafag the same person?
Yes.

>>141466335
Some of them overlap. The others are just an imaginary anime concept created by weak minds of this thread.

>>141466417
Or if the thread didn't have protection from rules. Your stupid anime brain didn't think about this one?

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>>141466335
At this point, whether it's 1 or 100 spammers, it does not matter.

Shitposts are shitposts, if they are spamming the thread to the point it hampers conversation something needs to be done about it.

Just keep on as usual, try to post useful info & create constructive conversation. Frequently posting USEFUL info would honestly be an improvement at this point - well reasoned and helpful tips will always drown out the low quality, nonsensical misinformation.

Most of all don't knee-jerk react to some "retarded statement" that is blatantly a shitpost.

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>>141466331
>I once messaged them on IRC and they told me to fuck off.
Gee, I wonder which mod you ran into.

>>141466525
Your post is a blatant shitpost. The information on your picture is factually incorrect.

I hate アニメ and 漫画 what about you guys?

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>>141466310
なんでいちいちアレたってるのん

さむいの？

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>>141465710
Are there any objections to adopting this into the misc. section of the guide?

E. g. In terms of formulations in the text/points that should be removed/added.

>>141466704
I want to be more like you... you are so sophisticated.

>>141466704
That would be lovely.

>>141466704
I really don't think it would be that hard to tell when someone's just shitposting even for someone new to the thread, and it's only ever been so common as of recently, so I'm not sure it would stay that relevant in the near future, probably better to just address it when it happens

>>141466704
no objection here

>>141466609
アレた? 荒れる?

>>141466704
We can, but do you think anyone even reads that piece of shit?

Is Jisho fucking up for anyone else? It's been going on for weeks, but I'm about to hit the breaking point. I have to refresh the page multiple times to get it to load, meaning I end up refreshing 5-10 times every time I want to look up ONE word. This is making it excessively tedious to look up words. Any one know what the heck is happening?

>>141466838
>アレた? 荒れる?
No, it's called crazy ジャップ.

>>141466704
It should be on the OP itself, where it's immediately visible.

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>>141466854
No problems here

>>141466854
Nah, it works fine.

>>141466910
I was afraid that it was a problem on my end, but fuck if I have any idea why Jisho exclusively has decided to fuck up.

>>141466854
Clear your cookies n shit

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>>141466838
>>141466876
下着つけてなくても寒くなければあんなに浮かないなーって

>>141466854
Probably your anime reality. Everything is fine in the real world.

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>>141466777
Yes anon, posting images of cute anime girls on Friday afternoon is the pinnacle of sophistication.

>>141466839
Given the amount of suggestions made to it (I wake up every day to something between 2 and 10 emails from google docs), yes, I do believe that people read it.

>>141466854
Maybe some anon is DDOSing it again.

Works fine on my end.

>>141466909
It's been ages since I've made one of these threads, so that'd be up to whoever makes the next thread and the threads after that. Certainly a viable option, but it would be a bit detrimental to the aesthetics of the OP post.

>>141465710
You're not wrong with the way you categorize his shitposting, but a third party would look at this list and go "wow these autists think all the shitposting on /a/ is done by the same guy lmao"

inb4
>oh wow its almost like you finally realized its not all me :^)
Yeah whatever

>>141466830
The misinformation and redirection is the most damaging part. If you're a beginner and don't even know the difference between hiragana and katakana for example, most advice will seem plausible. By definition, beginners wouldn't know where to seek out the proper advice, after all.

>>141466989
It happens on multiple browsers. Maybe Jisho just doesn't like my IP or something.

>>141467014
I love 日本文化 especially when all the ジャップ犬 gather and engage in 食糞.

>>141467070
That's super bizarre. Perhaps you have a roommate fucking with you?

>>141467034
I guess, but a question usually gets multiple replies, and if one of them is drastically different from the others surely it would be obvious, especially if someone takes the time to point out that the other is misinformation

>>141467025
I love posting images too. I just don't know how to be so cool about it. -_-

>>141467129
I live with my mother. I can't socialize with people outside of my family.

>>141467133
Except what's been happening is there's one serious reply and then 5 replies from the shitposter stating nonsense. Or there's a number of shitpost replies but no serious one at all.

>>141467014
she might be giving you bedroom eyes, but i'm pretty sure she has pants and underwear, but as levels of certainty go, thats だろ not ようだ

ｖｎとanimeとラノベは美術品でいますれですある。

it don't matter

none of this matters

>>141467394
but my anime matter. I love watching them and thinking that I live in a 2d world

>>141467394
Of course. Nothing matters.

But this doesn't stop us from producing a system of mattering in our non-mattering existence.

>>141467468
See, you don't need your images to be sophisticated

>>141467494
>you don't need your images to be sophisticated
what?

>>141467468
You are a very smart man. Just like your favorite manga/anime.

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>>141466024
I used to think I always got this card wrong because I had trouble remembering it.

Then I realized it's actually because she wants to see me every day.

テスト
this is a シットポスト

>>141467711
ｗｗankifuできないｗｗ迚も良いできないちゃんが大好きミームが大好き

This thread is so くそ I love it

I feel like I'm really messing up by not doing any production. Even though it's the only way to get better at it, I still have a hard time bringing myself to even post something on Lang-8 since I'm afraid to look like an idiot. Did any of you have a similar fear and got past it?

>>141466854
No problems on my end. Clear your cookies and cache. Maybe try flushing your DNS.

>>141467818
yeah I have such fears too. I'm really afraid of talking to people I'm very antisocial anime probably has something to do with it,

>>141467818
no, i currently would have much the same terror when trying to produce, but just do it anyway

you have to fail to learn bro

>>141467865
>Maybe try flushing your DNS.
I don't use le epic Gentoo or Arch though.

Fuck.... I just シャッと myself while doing reps.

>>141467926
Why would you need to? It can be done easily in Windows. I can't remember exactly how you do it, but you just need to open cmd and type something like "/flushdns".

>>141467818
Yeah I had a pretty hard time motivating myself to post on Lang-8, it's pretty aids thinking of shit to write about, when I finally convinced myself to do it I posted like 4 posts and got bored

I'd say HelloTalk is a much better option, it's a lot easier to think of shit to write since it's just casual one on one conversations, it's also quite the motivational boost since every person that adds you is some cute Japanese highschool girl, this also means the conversations get boring fast though

Try to just force yourself to do it, the sooner you do the sooner you realise how irrational your fears were

>>141468011
I won't fall for your slimy linux tricks. Go promote your "OS" somewhere else.

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It boggles the mind to know that there's an actual thinking and feeling human being churning out all this spam bot tier tripe.

>>141468037
ok

>>141468043
>deep picture
Yeah... We all get your condition. I hope you get better.

>>141468043
>thinking and feeling human being

Just barely

A sharp pain runs down my 直腸.
Fuck! Not again! Why can't I do reps without シッティング myself?

>>141468012

It doesn't help that I'm a boring manchild with little to talk about.

>>141468151
>I'm a boring manchild
>defends anime as learning material
What a fucking surprise.

>>141468151
Don't worry about it normies are boring as fuck too, if you're talking to some bitch and it goes nowhere you can just move on to someone else like nothing happened

No one expects deep conversation on a language learning app anyway because usually both parties can just barely communicate

>>141468187
I know he's been acting delusional for some time now, but did he finally snap?

Is it like when Cartman gave himself tourette by pretending too hard?

>>141468187

What? When did I do that?

>>141468252

Fair enough. Do I have to talk to English learners too or can I just focus on talking to people in Japanese?

>>141468511
What? Explain.
>>141468564
Right here "Even though it's the only way to get better at it"

>>141468564
I never spoke to any english people, you just make an account and wait and you get like 20 japs adding you

>>141468012
My experience with hellotalk was nothing but good. Months after I downloaded the app I finally worked up the courage to use it. a couple of girls added me and even some that talked about video games and anime. It was going so well that I got paranoid, left the app, and never returned. Now I miss it

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>>141468628
Dude now I'm worried about you

I'm sorry for telling you to kill yourself a couple times, just come back to us

>>141468628

What I meant was "Production is the only way to get better at production". I don't know where you got anime from that post.

>>141468690
Mine was good for a while, but I just couldn't be fucked to keep talking to the people on their, conversation just kind of tires me out I guess, especially with normies

I tried to find some people to talk about anime to but the conversations never really took off, it is definitely a great app though

>>141468708
Huh? Explain yourself.
>>141468710
You made an anime reference. Don't even try to deny it.

>>141468710
That guys got problems just ignore him

Generally if a post says anime in it it's the autist and you can safely just move on

>>141468690
>>141468760
>I wanna talk about my precious anime games! Oh... I wonder why nobody wants to talk to me now.
lmao at these guys.

When donald Trump becomes president I hope he bans anime/

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>>141468760
>google hellotalk
>oh this looks cool
>.apk
>no normal pc software

every search i make concerning remote software only goes in one direction too, phone controlling pc, not the other fucking way around

oh well

>>141468971
I don't think he can do much unless he invades Japan or unleashes the ＵＳ核武装 I would be fucking glad if that happened

>>141469010
Mmm it's only an app unfortunately

Sucks because I fucking hate typing with phone keyboards, especially in Japanese, takes me a decade to write one reply

You could get an android emulator but that's quite a lot of effort

Manga and anime is 苦ソ
Vn and LN is くうううそおおおお

>>141468760
Yeah conversation tires me out too. There's gotta be a way to fix that.

>>141468819
No they still message me. Even added me on steam. I just can't work up the courage to go back again. It's just too much stress.

>>141469188
Keep fooling yourself. They probably don't want to talk to an animefag and just added you out of politeness.

From this moment all anime on this planet is declared to be the embodiment of imaginary くそ.

>>141469010
It sucks not being able to use rikaikun on a phone. The built in translation is shit.

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>>141469102
>Sucks because I fucking hate typing with phone keyboards, especially in Japanese, takes me a decade to write one reply

exactly my problem, the thought of even typing in english fills me dread
need to resume my search, and root this s3 piece of shit after the 'update' added features too heavy for it to run
barely use the shitty thing anyway, they're not phones, they're portable horribly overpriced shit spec computers

>>141469309
>It sucks not being able to use my placebo crutch on a phone
Fixed your post, buddy.

>>141469329
>deep image
Cool. Wanna talk about linux and rooting phones? I use arch myself.

>>141469270
They started talking first about it first. One girl started showing me pictures she drew.

>>141469372
Please try to refrain from interacting with that guy

>>141469372
That's probably to make you love life a little more. They can sense that you are a desperate animefag who will probably commit suicide the second they ignore you.

>>141469394
Good idea. This post will be my last interaction with you.

>>141469334
It's not that bad if you use it right. Such as actually taking notes and properly studying the words when the conversation is over.

>>141469451
It's anime. How can it be good?

>>141463050
>Whom
That something's not doing anything to the man. It's just regular old Who.

ライトノベル好きいア・・ちゃんんん

Anime is shit for learning this 言語.

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>>141469481
何？

>>141469548
>implying american tv is better for learning japanese
???

>>141469571
>>141469585
see
>>141465710

>>141469571
Is that all you managed to learn from anime? Good try and nice image, it helps in learning Japanese a lot.
>>141469585
I don't watch it so I wouldn't know it's probably shit too just a little better than anime but that's not saying a lot. The くそ i made just 5 mins ago is better than anime.

>>141469610
I take back what I said before about it being easy to spot that guys posts, we probably should start including a disclaimer at least in the OP until this all blows over

>>141469670
>until this all blows over
You have no clue how dedicated he is

I hereby declare that all anime material is to be confiscated and burned!

>>141469789
Oh I definitely do, kid's reached a level of autism never before thought possible

But I'm sure he'll get banned or some shit eventually

I'm not too bothered since he sleep during my evenings, and besides even if he stays here forever everyone will eventually just get used to him and ignore him

>>141469872
>But I'm sure he'll get banned or some shit eventually
>implying he hasn't been banned like 20 times already

I hate anime. It is a bad learning tool.

>>141461816
>>141461831
>>141461843

>that guy that tries learning Japanese at community college

>>141470005
Me too.

>>141469779
because anime is for children

>>141470005
I agree mate fuck anime and everything it stands for

>>141469996
Well perhaps he'll get perma banned irl by a bus

>>141470232
Implying he goes outisde lol

>>141470318
Yeah I was just kind of picturing the bus smashing through his window

>>141470358
you should have used "your" here instead of "his" lol plot twist

This thread is shit

>>141466838
>>141466822
Implemented.

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I can't stop seeing it.

>>141470885
Thanks for doing your part.

丸暗記

>>141470885
Blame the shitposter who devotes his every waking hour to ruining these threads, and the mods who refuse to moderate them.

Maybe we should appeal to Hiroyuki directly. He might be sympathetic to forcing the mods to actually deal with the shitposters in these threads considering the subject matter of them.

>>141471847
Looks like he's gone to bed now, but yeah if it looks like he's not gunna be fucking off anytime soon that might be a good idea, don't really have any other options

>>141471847
Go for it.

>>141473013
I don't know how. If someone who knows how to get hold of Hiroyuki could say something, it's the only thing I can think of that would help at this point.

>>141471847
why dont you just make good posts in the thread and just "ignore and hide" the "bad" ones eh

just because you have a opinion doesnt mean its right so why do you think anyone is going to police the thread to cater to your preference

maybe reddit or lang8 is actually where you need to be eh m8

>>141473670
Fuck off.

>>141473706
you fuck off with your off topic posting マザーファッカー

hypocrite and a bad poster all rolled in one thats what you are dude

>>141473845
Fuck off.

Something bugs me about onyomi. How did ancient Japanese pick spellings for words? Did the chose from kanji with suitable onyomi the ones that had meanings related to the word or were the words with on-on readings loaned to begin with? The latter would mean that the majority of vocabulary is loanwords.

>>141474199
They just borrowed most of them directly from Chinese, and twisted the pronunciation a bit to fit into the Japanese mouth.

>>141474199
Pretty sure it's explained on this page:
http://www.imabi.net/l5kanjiintro.htm

>>141474199
It's the latter. But it isn't the case that every word that uses onyomi is a loanword. A lot of them were invented later on in Japan.

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>>141471847
if you think the great ヒロユキis going to sympathize with pathetic posts like these >>141473706 >>141473874 you got another thing coming ブロ

your posting sucks and as such you got completely rolled over by other posters and now you have no place in the conversation

助けは来ない覚悟しなmuppets

踊り続けてね

>>141474199
kanji was actually one of the spoils of the nanking campaign

they were fed up with cute ganas and kanas and wanted to make their writing look more stern and powerful to match their new attitude

>>141474590
Fuck off.

>>141474199
Both of these have happened, though the latter was more typical.
There was also the practice of borrowing just the kanji (along with the on- reading), and combining those to form new expressions in Japanese, after the style of Chinese expressions.
The above actually happens to this day - a lot of scientific and technological terms were coined by the Japanese that way, and some of them were even adopted by the Chinese (or just formed of the same characters by way of coincidence).

>>141474635
fuck on

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Do you wanna go for a ride?

>>141474958
Cool guy. Do you think he knows Japanese?

>>141475009
No, but his car is new.

Is gagging when I try to speak after repeating hiragana to myself for six hours a good excuse to take a break?

>>141475581
If you don't want to learn Japanese go ahead and do that.

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>>141475581
Go big or go home, anon.

>>141475581
No. You're only allowed to take a break when you pass out from carving kanji into your bones.

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>>141475581
Do it for the Fu's.

>>141474407
>imabi
Why doesn't this site get mentioned here more? It's pretty awesome.

>>141476182
It's a bad place for newbies to start because it's both dense and fucking enormous. Since most people here are beginners it doesn't get mentioned often enough.

>>141476182
The guy behind Imabi talked shit about us on the Wanikani forums once. Since then it's been taboo.

>>141477088
Sauce?

>>141477291
Some guy dug up the thread and took a screenshot of the thread I think last time it was brought up. I don't have it myself though. You can try searching the forums yourself, though I think you need an account to access them.

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What does your mining deck look like?

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>>141477486
This is the only thing that comes up on Google.

http://www.imabi.net/apps/forums/topics/show/12191095

I skimmed over it and it's mostly the other forum members talking shit about 4chan. The worst thing he says is (I assume he is speaking of 4chan as a whole when he says it):
>Now, there are a few individuals that try to bring intellectual discourse or sane arguments, but they tend to be cussed out and what not.

The opening post says nothing bad about 4chan though. He only made that statement in response to someone else's statement. I'm guessing the screenshot you saw was posted out of context.

>>141478425
Literally from that thread, "4chan is a vulgar site that should be put down."

Why the fuck do you care anyway? Are you some kind of shill? DOJG is better than Imabi in every way for most people.

>>141478651
>Literally from that thread, "4chan is a vulgar site that should be put down."
Oh fug. Didn't bother reading the second page. The topic seemed to have transferred over to talking about Tae Kim by the end of the first page so I didn't think there was any point looking at it.

Nevermind then.

>>141478822
There are some grammar points DOJG doesn't cover though, and Imabi is the best available resource for them.

>>141478903
Meant for >>141478651

>>141478651
>>141478822
In the second to last post he mentions pissing off people from 4chan. I guess we all know how cancerous people from here can be, so who knows what they told him to go from "brethren at 4chan" to "it should be put down".

>>141478903
And you get to learn cool idioms like 人を先に使う!

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>only 200 kanji to lower-intermediate level
デキル

>>141480074
Sorry bro lower intermediate doesn't start till 3k

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Can some more knowledgeable anon help me out? For part 2.

Forms of Support
P1 TLK1: To refuse my rare offer of support...curse that Adol.
P1 TLK2: いったいどうしろというのだまったく！！

>というのだまったく
what does he mean by this?

>>141480258
Try asking in the real Japanese thread at /int/

>>141480258
It's のだ全く

>>141480258
what do you think it means

surely they arent all just meaningless words to you

>>141480258
>いったいどうしろというのだ
What the hell do you want me to do? (more literally, how the hell are you saying I should do?)
>まったく
(expression of exasperation)

>>141480310
How come the /int/ threads still use that old guide? I'm pretty sure it's 2 versions old now.

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>>141480429
>>141480433
oh derp, sometimes it's hard to separate words if they're written in kana only
thanks anons!

It seems the shitposter has finally gone to sleep.

Now is our chance! Let us engage in intelligent and intellectual discussion on the Japanese language like we used to be able to.

>>141480521
inb4 you are the shitposter

>>141480521
bad bait

>>141480510
Actually looking at the context I'm less sure about how to interpret it. The どうしろ seems to be targeted at the adore guy so to speak, not the demon. Sorry. The separation of the words is correct, though.

>>141480475
How has the guide actually improved since that version? They used to use a guide that was completely separate from DJT's and was actually shit.

>>141480521
ティップフェドラ

What is the Japanese for meme?

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>>141480521

>>141481352
>>141481413
うるさいおバカ。だから私は出来るよ。

Is there anywhere I can download the Genki second edition answer key?

>>141481727
何が出来るかい

知的な話どこ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6NLFkGdIww

>procrastinate anki for a month
>it's not like i can forget everything

>Correct answers on mature cards: 84/122 (68.9%)

>>141481896
you were .1 away from being at a いい％

>>141481930
そうですね。

>>141481896
shit i think I'm forgetting kana
help

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>yesterday's correct percentage: ~90%
>today's correct percentage: <80%

>>141482174
ひらがなはかわいい

カタカナはスルドイ

漢字輪無理

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhe_xlUlE00

>>141482337
I understood 66% of that.

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>>141482281

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>>141482281

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ねえねえおにいちゃん

ううんなんでもない

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>>141483572
うぜえ

・　　くだらない
・　　どいつもこいつも
・ク　クズクズクズ
・ズ　つまんないつまんない
・ク　このスレにはクソムシ
・ズ　しかいないんだ
・ク　私には耐えられない
・ズ
・ク
・ズ
・ク
・ズ
・クズ
・・クズ
・・・クズクズクズクズクズクズ

>>141483572
Nee, imouto, I'm coming to Japan next week, mind if I fuck your sister?

>>141482281
>tomorrow's correct percentage: <95%

「送料」と「郵送料」どう違いますか。

>>141485349
違わない

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>>141485349
送料は、運送会社のようごだよ。ふつうの会社のだよ

郵送料は、旧郵便局の料金だよ。

>>141484888
にほんはとっても安全なくにだよ
でも安全を脅かすひとには、厳罰のある国でもあるよ

>>141485606
おい小娘俺と勝負しろ

>>141485606
葉っぱを吸うことがありますか

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Help

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>>141485765

>>141485801
Fuck you Johnathan help me

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>>141485606
ああ、分かりました。ありがとうございます。

>>141485742
おふろはいって、あたらしいおようふくにきがえてからならいいよ

>>141485747
たばのの葉っぱ以外は税金がかけられてないよ

たばこ以外を持っていたら逮捕・拘留だよ

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>>141485853
Dont worry, this isnt accurate at all

>>141477969
That's pretty hot

>>141482281
I fucking hate anki stats with a passion

They piss me off so much, wish I could stop looking at them

>>141485606
うるせえぇ、ロリコンめ。　ここにくるならカキコせずにしろ！

>>141486436
>>141485853
Is that site any good?

>>141487314
カキコマイペニス

>>141487348
It's awful and inaccurate as fuck

>>141487404
What a shame. It's such a cute looking site too.
Thanks for the information.

日本人　＝　亜人

韓国に賠償金を払え！

For about a year, I have been stuck at the level where I can read VNs at a snail's pace. I've got the grammar down pat, but I never seem to recall vocab.

Besides the Core 6k pack, is there any other tool I should be using?

>>141487642
your head

>>141487642
Read more

>>141487642
You should probably be mining. Authors tend to use the same words over and over, so as you mine words from the VN you are reading it will get easier and easier.

>>141487774
What this guy said

Once you are able to read you should immediately drop core and start mining

Or at least mine as well as core

>>141487697
Noted

>>141487746
I usually read 1 scene a night, which usually takes 1-2 hours. Now I have more free time, so I will take that into consideration.

>>141487774
I already mine and add the words into a custom deck. However, even when I do perfectly fine recognizing the word in the deck, something as simple as a font change will through off that effect. I also practice stroke order and do reverse decks, but it doesn't seem to help much.

>>141487894
>through
throw off that effect

今わ寝るよ。おやすみなさい。

>>141488283
永眠しろ

>>141487894
You know the radicals, right?

>>141487894
Sounds like you just need more practice.

Somehing you realize in intermediate hell: Onomatopoeia are at least as big of an obstacle to learning this language as kanji.

>>141488904
All kana only words are fucking aids

Especially adverbs

Fuck adverbs

>>141488904
Yeah, that shit is impossible to remember.

>>141488977
こんにちは　ぱんぴやろうども

このけいじをよまないながら　

なぜそうだろうか　あんたもかんがえてくれないか

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECx880X5qvA

>>141488904
Kanji arent even that hard to remember anymore but onomatopoeias can die

>>141489336
Onomatopoeias are particularly hard for me to remember since it's not so easy to come up with a mnemonic for them. Got any good ways to memorize them?

>>141489880
Only way I ever remember them is if I get lucky and happen to encounter them a lot in the wild in quick succession

大学側
does this have any particular meaning

部員は日本語学科の学生など５０人で、大学側の要請で裏千家から派遣された岩間宗恭さんが顧問として指導に当たっています。

I cant see it meaning "School side"
Perhaps it means a request coming from the side of the school?

Hey if you filter youtube links and the spammer is asleep the thread almost becomes tolerable.
Filtering "anki" helps too

>>141490025
It's read がわ here, check that on Jisho.

if I'm still having 50% days on anki after doing it for over a month do I have no hope?

I don't fully grasp the underlying meaning of 人生は帳尻が合う. Can someone help a retard out?

>>141490822
Ganbarimas oniichyan

ググる

>>141488904
My retention would be at least 5% higher if I deleted those words from my deck.

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>got medically discharged from navy
>tfw going full blown amphetaneet and going to the doctor tomorrow to focus on money lifting and Japanese


Any amphetaneets here want to discuss their experiences and dosages?

What kind of % correct numbers should I be having after a few weeks in Anki?

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>>141492002
Absolute.
Fucking.
Failure.
I told you you wouldn't get anywhere in the navy.

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do reps

>Mom cleaned my room
>All my yuri manga and light novels now neatly organized.

fug

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>>141492433
Hey we all can't be neurotypicals like you. I was one week before graduation before I was medically seperated for excessive vomiting. Ive had the issue for years so they gave me fraudulent enlisting.

The navy may be done but my life isn't, i may have autism but it's all about growth tbqh...

>>141492568
>having a loving mother

Normie

>>141492568
>she organized them in ABC order instead of あかさ

>>141492418
Over 70% in the blue bar and over 95% in both green bars.

>>141492620
How the fuck aren't you even man enough to stop yourself from vomiting? You're never going to get anywhere in life like this.

>>141492680
how do you organize something in ABC order when it's in Japanese

>>141492680
It's my fault. Fuck she even organized Citrus, those have lewd as fuck covers.

>>141490025
>>141490997
Ask in the real thread on /int/

>>141492952
It's okay, anon. Your mom masturbated daily from the time she was 12. Your parents understand that porn is fun.

>>141493066
It's almost as bad as when she found my onna hole in the bathroom and left it on my bed.

>>141492418
The only percentage which matters is mature, which should be 90%+.

>>141493037
delete this post now
keep good things good

お辞儀はORZかい