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"Tales Series"
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Cute little Repede with Yuri
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>>141444048
Rose a best.
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>>141445344
Fuck off, Baba
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>>141447866
Rose's ass will save anime.
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this is now a Mikleo thread
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>>141448307
Watch there be no ass shots in the anime.
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>>141449989
They can't deviate that much from the plot.
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You guyz foygetz
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TOX anime when, I want my Milla fix
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This is not anime.
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>>141450331
No. You will get the Rose. And you will love the Rose.
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>>141450395
Who ever came up with the crossover deserves a raise.
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>>141450374

What is Tales of Symphonia, Tales of the Abyss, Tales of Zestiria the X, Tales of Vesperia?
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>>141448307
If anything it killed the Tales franchise. Or at least in Japan, where it matters for them.
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>>141450573
They will realize that they were wrong and worship the goddess that is Rose.
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>>141451228
Baba stop posting before you start receiving more death threats. Least popular girl will stay least popular.
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Why do all the Tales threads end up dying? I love these threads
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>>141444048
Current best Tales girl. Hands down.
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>>141451532
Insane that she actually looks cute on the right. It's the hair and the fact that she has a face with an actual expression.
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Tales of has so many cuties
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Zelos did nothing wrong.
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>>141451941
That's true.
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>>141452033

She is soooooo cute
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>>141451941
Indeed, Beryl a best
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I want Edna to step on me
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>>141450573
Tales is more alive than ever and the fanbase is full of buzz with all the things happening
The tales festival is this month, I hope we get the popularity poll
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>>141452126
And I want Yuri to fuck me senseless.

Hope you and I can both live with the fact that the things we want will never happen.
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>>141452391
But people are more wary of it that's for sure.
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>>141452432
Every Tales character who gets Yuri's outfit as an alt. costume looks so much better in it than Yuri himself. His character model looks like he has gyno.
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>>141452126

With her boots or bare feet?
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>>141452604
Not really. Aside from some jokes most nips are excited for the future. Besides, Baba isn't even involved with berseria. That's old ass news now.
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>>141452693
Well that kind of outfit only really works for masculine looking character and Yuri doesn't look all that Masculine.
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>>141452779
Probably people are excited because he isn't involved.
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Milla a cute
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>>141452779
>Baba isn't involved with Berseria

Best tales since Graces confirmed, get HYPE
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>>141452944
>I want Edna to step on me
with Sorey's heels
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Dont forget best sis
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>>141452841
I'm referring to the multiple projects/events/merch and general fanbase excitement for them, not just the new console game. It's plain uninformed to say "tales is ded" when there's so much activity, even with berseria aside.

>>141452900
Eng fanbase is so slow I thought this was common knowledge
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>>141450382
Who is she?

I haven't see her in any promotional art of the upcoming anime.
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Kohaku best legs
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>>141453142
For real. I was in Akihabara and Ikebukuro last month and there was Tales shit everywhere. The new story arcs for Tales of Asteria are advertised on TV. Tales of Friends is constantly holding cafe events. People in the West think Tales is bombing because of the Zestiria drama last year, but the fanbase is in love with the characters more than ever.
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KUREAAAAAAAAAA
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>>141451492
We must save the threads with more posts!!!
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>>141452126
Same
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>>141453370
The fujoshis saved the day again?
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Tainted AU sounds good
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>>141453737
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>>141444048
She and Mikleo were cute as fuck together. If he wasn't so gay, I would pair them.
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>>141450491
That slut isn't /a/, though.
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>>141453784

Go tell /c/
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>>141453737
You sure you don't like it because Sorey fucks Mikleo daily in it?
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>>141453778
At least Mikleo will look at a swimsuit catalog. Sorey brings up the girls' soft, smooth skin twice in a non-sexual and vaguely Silence of the Lambs context.
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>>141450231
>The Turtlez battle in the Catz world that copied a Xillia 2 scene one for one.
Best fucking cutscene.
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>>141454014
Always knew Ludger was a bottom.
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>>141453737
Tainted AU is the worst thing to ever happen because it never happened ;_;
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>>141453944
Well Zavied did get Sorey to babe watch with him, granted Sorey's idea of it was different from Zavied's but not entirely wrong.
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>>141453978
The amount of feels I had during xillia 2 for that and then again during that battle...


Also nothing beats gay aska
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>>141452944
Sorey is a buff dude, god damn his thighs are delicious.
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>still haven't finished Zesty Sauce
The only localized Tales game besides Erernia that I haven't finished that I've played. And even then Eternia is a special case because my saves were wiped randomly.

Love the series though. Played them all besides Legendia
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>>141454274
I am so pissed we didn't get to see Shadow's spirit form.
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Berseria main right here
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>>141454398
I'm ANALLY OBLITERATED we didn't get to beat Origin's presumptuous ass up. He was the very definition of "fucking up human's lives because he thinks they deserve it" villain and everyone just kinda shrugs it off.
Fuck, if this were any other JRPG Bisley would have joined your party.
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>>141453737
*unsheathes siegfried*
*teleports behind you*
nothing personnel, kid
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>>141454078
God damn the bitches for taking Ludger's reward for paying his debt off and making it stressful. Also, Rowen has a fun playstyle that I absolutely adore. He is quite literally supposed to be played as a battlefield surveyor that stays away from the heat while casting crowd control.
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>>141454440
Fuck you and your hemorrhoid ridden ass. Origin was pretty bro tier and you need to direct your burning hatred at Chronos and the original Maxwell where it rightfully belongs.
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Color swaps?
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>>141454628
I still can't believe we get Eizen in the party in Berseria. I hope he is just as playful in his teasing as his sister.
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>>141453778
Shit taste. Edna and Zaveid was clearly more of a thing.

>>141453142
Yeah, I doubt Zesty is as hated as it is over here as it is over there.

Also new TOZ/TOB promo pics.
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>>141444048
>Somewhere along the line Tales became /a/ related
god dammit
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>>141454693
I wonder if we'll see cameos of other zesty serephs like the old man who rasied Sorey and Mikleo
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>>141454788
I wonder, could this game be about the 8 Dragon myth? The origins of Maotelus? The possibilities are astounding.
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>>141454788
They need to animate the katz's story about Zenrus is getting mad drunk in the hookup bar in Katz Korner.
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>>141454855
There is so much to learn about the world. I love world building.
Only sad thing is; we know what will eventually happen to Aizen/Eizen. What actually happened...so much to find out.
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>>141454700
> /y/
> /ss/
What a time to be alive.
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>>141454931
I felt so guilty selling the pipe at the beginning. I accidentally backed out the dialog box.
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>>141454990
He didn't help himself as far as his power is concerned, but he is still a fucking awesome looking dude and a top tier aniki.
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>>141449880
They giving him the Chie treatment?
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>>141455049
Wonder if they'll touch upon the story of Zavied's gun
Also I chucked out persona during this scene. I know I wasn't the only one
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>>141453361
Thats a combo between a good girl and a half assed boy
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>>141454626
They kinda cursed all of humanity and ruined the cycle of souls because of one human (Kresnik) as I recall. All of them can fuck right off. KILL THE GREAT SPIRITS.
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>>141453361
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>>141455153
To be honest, I haven't seen any reference to seraphim being used in the information on Berseria. What if the story is about the birth of the seraphim from the 'demon' looking stuff we've seen?
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>>141455156
I think you mean worst girl and dead boy
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>>141455261
More likely Zestiria's seraphim are "descendants" of the malakim. Laphicet and Eizen are malakim.
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Narikiri Dungeon 4 fucking when?
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>>141455261
I guess we'll find out when it's released

Also about the Normans. Did they 1st one we were introduced too have a love for art galleries and what not....and who has a love for it in TOB...Edna bro. Also Edna carries a plish of that Norman on her umbrella.
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Atelier x Tales crossover anime when?
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>>141455186
Chronos fucked up the damn cycle with his little Chromatus bullshit, while Old Man Maxwell prevented the conditions needed to complete the trial from happening. All Origin did was stay in a locked mechanism and suck the Miasma out of the souls before reincarnation. Assign blame to those who fucked the situation up.
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I actually liked Rose as a character more than Alicia. She brought life to an otherwise boring party and initiated actual fun conversations and lifted the energy. Then Zaveid joined and the party FINALLY felt comfy and interesting.
I just hate Roses playstyle and much prefer to play as Alicia.
I hope Berseria fixes the battle system.
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>>141455346
So could those who were labeled as malakim be the ones who turned into dragons from the legends?
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We idol now
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>>141455445
Breseria will use Xillia engine so, the movements surely wont be sluggish
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Which tales game is best (has the best gameplay)? I've only played tales of innocence on the DS, which was mediocre.
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Are the games any better, I gave up after graces.
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>>141452033
RIP
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>>141455545
Try Xilia
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>>141455545

Tales of Destiny remake for PS2
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>>141455563
Depends I guess. I enjoyed the xillias and zesty. Im even half way thru Hearts R. I think they all have their own thing that makes them fun. ( I like the soma system on Hearts R)
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>>141451532
I still prefer my dear Presea but Edna is a cutie for sure
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>>141452033
Whose voicing her now that Marriage declaration happened?
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>>141455735
Noriko Shitaya
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>>141451532
That's not Karol
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>>141451532
But there are no Kohaku in that picture
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>>141455929
I nwant to fuck futa Edna
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>tales of fujoshit

no thanks senpai
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>>141456072
I was always Tales of hetero but fuck them they want t milk fujo money. And FF soon. They should change the tittle to FInal Fujoshit
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>>141456236
Aw, is poor broke moralfag jealous of the rich fujos getting pandered to? They don't even need to be rich anymore, Mandarake and K-Books take credit card...
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Even if DOTNW wasn't that good I find Marta a cute
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>>141456391
>poor broke moralfag
>implying
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>>141456072
They can pander to fujoshits as much as they want if it leads to boys as cute as Sorey.
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>>141449842

Mikleo is cute

>>141450231

Turtlez are also pretty cute, as was the skit where Sorey and Mikleo discussed them.

>>141451532

Edna is pretty good, Berseria looks to have some great characters as well.

>>141451830

While's Edna's swimwear isn't bad, I think I much prefer her default look. Like her hair and dress better and I'm a sucker for boots.
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Zaveid is best boy
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>>141458186
I'd go gay for Zaveid
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>>141455704
My nigger. Presea is my favorite Symphonia.
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Rita is my waifu!
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>>141457582
I want to make Edna wet.
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>>141451941

That it does, for both sexes. Part of why I've probably taken a liking to the series.

>>141452815

It's kind of funny how I played Symphonia and didn't really care for Colette, and now two years later I find her quite adorable. The OVA did a great job making her look cute, particularly in the zombie state brought about by the Cruxis Crystal.

>>141455457

They picked some good girls to be idols and the designs for them were pretty nice, was pleasantly surprised to discover there was even a somewhat enjoyable story behind it. Tales of Link seems pretty good for its alternate costume art and even some of its original characters.

On the downside it really doesn't hide the fact that you have to pay if you want a particular character or even good characters, otherwise you can be waiting a while. Kind of didn't like either how it seems like they always have some limited time event going on, though I suppose that is good incentive to get people playing, it worked on me for a bit.
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>>>/vg/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysFbEOFRjSU
I love Tales.
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>>141445344
>this poor soul only played the worst Tales ever and even then didn't choose Edna as best girl
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>>141448307
how do you get Zesteria to do this? I literally tried the whole game because the gayboy protag was getting very boring to look at 10 mins in.
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>>141455285
he died?

that scene was so fucking irrelevant gameplay-wise, it hurts. New boy just came right in, took his fucking hat, and we were back to business.
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>>141453784
>not /a/
>literally voiced by Miyuki Sawashiro

it's like you don't even watch anime for the voice acting
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>>141452779
>baba not involved
>whatever bullshit mechanics they throw, I get to stare at THESE assets all game long

It's already way better than Zestiria.
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>>141460449
I've actually played through most Tales games and consider Rose to be one of the better female characters. Vesperia's cast in general is much, much better though.
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>>141454541
>not playing Milla for the absolute wreckage and versatility

I respect your style though, I wish I could play anything but Milla, Myuse, Leia or Ludger.
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>>141455507
Oh god is this confirmed?

I currently replay Xillia 2 and love the shit out of the battles so much, the mediocre story can go fuck itself over as much as it wants, as long as the fights are fun
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MUTTON, FRESH MUTTON
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>>141455545
Best overall would be Vesperia PS3, the translation is available now I hear.
Fighting is a lot of fun, and the characters carry the story so hard it's nearly enjoyable without the gameplay.

If you come to Tales for the fighting, give Xillia 1&2 a shot. Play both, X2 is the far superior one Battle-wise since some lagging was fixed. Just don't spam Lightning too much.
The fights are quick-paced, challenging, but also rewarding, since the slightest effort you put into dodging stuff can be the difference between having to go back to "hard" from "unknown" or kicking the boss' ass.

Graces F deserves a mention, the fights are very different in style since no airgame, but still quite intense nonetheless.

If you want to stick to handheld, try Hearts for the Vita.
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>>141456457
I secretly enjoyed the fuck out of it since I chose the right monsters at the start and got a kickass Fenrir by my side.
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>>141460147
I want an actual thread, not some Gulag circlejerk '''''''insider'''''''' bullshit.
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>>141460682
Mh, fair enough I guess.

I wanted to like Rose, but something about her didn't quite fit into the party, like, all game long.
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>>141452126

I'd like to bully her feet

>>141453370

Honestly, that probably comes down to Namco. More than most other Japanese companies they seemed to shit the bed when trying to bring their product to a global audience.

Japanese companies also seem to have a habit of catering to Japan while giving the rest of the world scraps. For example, Nintendo continues to open up new Pokemon Centers in Japan while the US one became a general Nintendo store.

>>141453737

Remember seeing these pictures which made use of AU Sorey and Mikleo, seemed good.

>>141460930

They tried to get a Tales general going on in /vg/ around the time Zestiria was released in English, it honestly wasn't that bad, but fell apart due to eventually there not being much to really talk about.
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>>141461096
I kinda also don't want /v/ermin to invade my waifu-battle simulator discussion
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>>141444048
Kekkon Yubiwa Monogatari thread?
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>>141461135

/v/ also manages to have decent Tales threads, the only thing they can fall prey to is people arguing about which game is best.
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>>141460953
That's the problem with the party as a whole. Everyone's sort of a straightman, always serious and all business.

The goofball doesn't show up until the last third of the game to balance things out. Before that it was only Lailah's occasional puns, and Edna's smug that kept the thing afloat.
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>>141461198
/a/ know's it's Vesperia.
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>>141461209
It's not even just the party, I literally remember not one single boss character or any noteworthy interactions.

These two with their boss, Xillia's 4 wings, or Myuse in the first part, made for very rememberable villians.
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>Ctrl plus F
>No Estelle

Absolutely disgusting, she is best Tales girl.

Vesperia anime series when?
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>>141452814

Not exactly a negative

>>141454326

Certainly a strong contender in the cute hero category.

>>141454990

The possibility of world building sounds nice.

>>141455704
>>141458370

Presea is also good.
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>>141461354
>complains about no Estelle
>posts a screenshot of the inferior mash-up games
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>>141461611
The games are shit but at least we got her sweet ass.
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>>141461209

> Lailah can't talk about anything actually useful or else she'll lose her power of purification
> Sorey promises to find a way to save Edna's brother, oops no let's kill him, not like that was her entire reason for joining or anything
> Alisha BTFO by everyone
> Rose worst characterization
> Maltran is sexy and dead
> Forton is sexy and dead
> Symonne, despite manipulating one of the party into killing themselves, is treated like weak pathetic garbage by everyone including her boss
> Everything about Muse
> Sorey's mom is a generic NPC

Being female in Zestiria is guaranteed suffering.
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>>141461096
Most Japanese companies don't give a shit about their fanbase outside Japan unless it's for bragging rights, it's probably for the best for everyone involved re: censorship.

Also Pokemon Centers aren't that great, they all have the exact same arrangement of overpriced made in china plushies and school supplies. They don't even sell books, games, or electronics unless it's a crappy clock or something. They're nowhere on the level of say, Tales of Friends/Kotobukiya or the Square-Enix stores.
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>>141461096
>>141461140
>>141462053
Sorey getting cucked by his alt. self while both Mikleos are into it will never not be funny
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>>141454700
>otp in the back
Based
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>>141461588
It is a negative when everyone else looks better in his outfit than he does.
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>>141461209
>Everyone's sort of a straightman, always serious and all business.
That's plain wrong when Lailah and her puns exist. Sorey and Mikleo have plenty goofy moments as well but they just take their job seriously as they should. Plus there is Edna and her snark jokes and bullying all early on.
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Stinky Pascal
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>>141460685
Milla is fun as shit, but Rowen has me by the rhythm game instincts. Muzet is hard as fuck to get into the mindset for, Elize requires planning and foresight on how to shift the spud, Alvin is a fucking burst damage badass with his charge time being useful with his healing skills, and then you have Gaius being an import from fucking Soul Calibur with a bit of a tank based avenger.
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No PS3 version western release.
Well fuck, I don't want to buy a console just for one game.
How shitty are they at porting to PC? Looks like I'll have to resort to that version.
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>>141452728
I know this is a very late answer but I think it's imperative to discuss such a question. The answer is both. I want her to bully me with those heavy boots, laugh at me, and call me names like "lolicon" and "scum." But then she'd take her boots off and reveal her cute, soft, dainty feet and gently rub them on me.
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I really hope Berseria can wash the bad taste of Zesteria out of my mouth
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>>141462917
Cum in Pascal
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>>141450573
They don't hate Rose though. They hate how Baba and his team handled the whole thing.
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So does anyone here actually talk about the games
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>>141465972
Occasionally, but this isn't the place to talk about games in-depth.

I didn't like Zesteria. Can't put my finger on why, I just never figured out the combat system and enjoyed it. I trudged through most of the game just for Edna. I think I could finish it in a few hours if I felt like playing it again but it doesn't seem worth it.
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>>141451532
This shitstain is nowhere near top 10 best Tales girls, let alone the best.
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>Rita
>Judith
>Estelle

Vesperia had the best and most balanced female case.
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>>141465972
Team Destiny has a complexity addiction in battle systems, Team Symphonia goes for simple beat the tar out of the enemy style. Xillia was a good start, as Team Destiny got certain complexity and forced a more technical type of gameplay, while the face beating fun of Team Symphonia still shone through. Zestiria went full Destiny, with very little Symphonia influence. Graces is a fucking mess of complexity compared to Xillia and Zestiria returns to the same fucking mess and adds more to it. Having twenty different attributes that an attack can have is going a bit too far. To be fair, I did cut my teeth on Team Symphonia's works.
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>>141466439
You forgot the best Tales loli.
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Abyss best.

Luke is best.
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>>141454541
At some point Rowen was so intense that any battle could end with him standing on the edge and casting Tightening Chains a couple times. Based old man, best boy.
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>>141466454

I disagree. I think Tales' format works fantastically with meshing button masher and more complex combat in roots with its action RPG style.

Graces' system I never thought was that confusing. At most all you had to understand was basic movement, dodging enemies, basic button functions, and that CC was responsible for your action count. That's all I ever understood and I got by just fine. I seriously don't understand how people find it difficult.

That said, I think Graces (and I hear Hearts R) are the only games in the series where action game depth is in any sense truly interesting. That's not to say the gameplay for the rest is bad though, it's just that I largely also disagree on Destiny having a complexity addiction. The franchise was never responsible for any systems that were say, Devil May Cry levels.

Overall Tales has still managed to retain some very samey gameplay, where you don't need to learn much at all past the tutorial, and the rest comes naturally. The more technical things you want to pull off, if possible depending on the game, is just a nice bonus that happens to be there if you want to do cool stunts.
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>>141465040
I want to have hope too but I'm not liking the designs of any of the characters.
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>>141462053
Not even Japanese people care about Japanese games anymore. Console games are expensive as fuck so only otakus are willing to buy them while normies only care for cellphone games.

In fact, many Japanese games have better sales on the west than in Japan. Weeaboos are desperate for any kind of contact with glorious nippon
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>>141468060
>this is not actually a thing
I'm still mad. It's such a waste of two characters who actually fit each other so well.
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>>141468433
Also western games suck dick
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>>141468681
Perhaps but they sell millions. A modern Japanese game made for the Japanese market never reach the milion sales, not even close. That creates a vicious cycle of otaku pandering, doing the same bullshit over and over again and alienating any potential new consumer in favor of the same old consumer
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>>141466847
The problem I have with Graces and Zestiria is the fact that better equipment is not easy to discern or is downright impossible to maintain understanding of, respectively. The title system that Team Destiny has is beautiful and well done in Graces yet horrid in Zestiria. The main sticking point in Zestiria is that skills are chained to the fucking equipment. Having to think fifteen moves in advance in crafting a weapon is NOT a good feature. And don't get me started on the fact that battle actions are one size fits all, with skill gates out the fucking ass to unlock them.
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>>141445344
>almost 16 hours late
Still though. Baba pls fuck off.
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>>141451532
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>>141453130
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>>141469575
The worst part is that you can completely ignore the skills system and not be any worse off. Just fusing equipment drops a few times is enough to cheese the game on Chaos mode. Yeah it's cool to get a high skill stack and suddenly every attack you block restores your health, but by that point you can already destroy any battle. So much complexity and effort wasted on a system that ultimately doesn't need to be invested in anyway (in Zestiria).
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>>141455507
>Breseria will use Xillia engine so
Where was that confirmed? I thought they'd keep working with the Zestiria engine.
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>>141468433
Keep telling yourself that, /v/ermin.
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Any you tried the older games on the dolphin emulator in Virtual Reality?
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>>141470500
Team Destiny has far too much love for equipment crafting bullshit, I fucking swear. Their love of multiple arte trees is also rather insane. Not every slash needs a fucking arte associated with it.
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>haven't played a tales game since tales of phantasia/destiny/eternia
>have no idea who these girls are

It feels impossible to catch up.
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Rose makes me diamonds but Edna is fine too.
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I just fapped to the Zestiria girls as futa, fucking Alisha.
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Still waiting on that new PV, ufo.
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>>141470775
Sure, it's just a big conspiracy of a vocal minority from /v/. Doesn't matter people from inside the Japanese videogame industry has been complaining for years about the stagnation of the industry, the remakes and sequels, the shrinking sales, etc. Probably Kojima and Sakamoto are /v/ermins, as well as the ones making sales reports
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>>141459370
Yeah, I used to hate Colette in the past but I like her now.

Maybe it's the Nana effect.
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>>141473675
I worship Lailah's legs.
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>>141464845
I hope Edna is all right with me fapping to her.
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>>141453366

You gotta have great legs if you're going to use kicks as a big part of your attack set
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>>141474506
She's cute. Always thought she was but she's also a bit annoying.
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>>141473675
They will probably put it out online during tales festival
they showed it at an event last week but not to the general public
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>You will never explore ruins with her.
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>>141455390
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>>141460449
Shiiiiit

Is that edna in a chatto outfit?

No guess not. Just generic pirate
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>>141479530
>she will never grind her ass like that against you
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>>141479530
I bet she would have a blast with those two
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>>141451191
Nothing will beat Lloyd's poster.

>>141451492
Not really much new content. There's been info on the Bears battle system but not much else. And the older games have been discussed to death. Book belt is clearly gonna be best girl.
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>>141452814
It looks great on girls because cleavage.

>>141452693
I like it on Yuri.
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>>141461209
Edna was the goofball smug and i loved her for it. Carried the whole thing.

Also, the ocasional Laila fujomoments and jokes and dorkeyness was cute too. ;_;7
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>>141479881
>Not really much new content.
For EOP maybe
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>>141466333
The combat system was easy.

Auto attacks > Spells > Skills > auto attacks

What ever they are using, just jakenpo em
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>>141454628
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>>141470266
Woh, how did colette get #4 on the top left one?

Actaully, what are the four boxes entirely? I cant do kanji still

I know the top left is best girl and top right is best boy but what are the other two?
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>>141471010
Just play the fun ones in this order:

Symphonia, Abyss, vesperia, xillia 2
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>>141474506
Not him but ive never hated her. Always loved Presea more and sheena was okay. Raine is funny with her fanatic mode
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>>141480337
most stylish and least stylish i think
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>>141462053
>They don't even sell books, games, or electronics unless it's a crappy clock or something
Sounds a lot like a merchant's booth at a con or an anime shop in Chinatown. Over priced collectibles with the durability of something half its price. I wanted to by a Xillia mug really, really bad but it's non microwavable and according to the seller, can't withstand high temperatures or bleach. Something I always wash dishes with. I did get a Milla throw blanket though. It's nice.

>>141466847
>Tales' format works fantastically with meshing button masher and more complex combat in roots with its action RPG style.
I really like this about the combat since any one of any skill level can play. I even got my mom to play a bit of Xillia but she dropped it because she likes all action and finds story based games bong.

>>141468498
Yuri's relationships are so well done I like it open ended. Personally I think Yuri/Flynn/Estelle would make the cutest OT3 since Yuri and Flynn shared everything.
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>>141480581
Thats from right to left right?

No way they would vote Ried as stylish and zelos as not stylish, right?
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>>141480645
here's a hint, only one of them has legendia characters on it
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>>141474506
I always found her cute. She's the most generic of love interest girls but I like her for her simplicity. Also she's not annoying.
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Lets get this shit started.
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>>141481140
All three Zestirias are great. But I'm glad your a Rosefag.
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>>141481140
nice
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>>141481140
>not Sophie
>not Mikleo
>not Tear
I disagree with your tastes
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>>141481425
Tear is shit.
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>>141463012
Leia looks big in her chest area

>>141481470
Never read something so wrong
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>>141481140
Can only agree with 2 of those
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>>141479954
Exactly it looks good on girls that have tits. Yuri, just looks like a flat-chested girl so it doesn't look as good on him. If he had tits though it would look better.
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>>141481671
>that art style
How horrifying. Though I think Yuri's design is just right. It's masculine enough to clearly be a guy but girly enough to underestimate him. Before I heard his voice I'd assumed he'd sound dainty or something. Took awhile to get used to his voice though.
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MANLY MEN DOING MANLY THINGS
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>>141481849
olev
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>>141481912
Oh god, Ludger looks good in everything.
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>>141481230
>three
Baba fuck off.
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>>141480588
I seriously doubt Yuri can see Estelle as anything other than his little sister.
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>>141482067
There's clearly only three.

Co-protagonist: Rose
Supporting Main Characters: Lailah and Edna.
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Hopefully they animate the bath in the Zestiria anime. It fucking sucks in the game. Zestiria is just a disappointment all around it seems.
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>>141482067
But anon, there's only three.
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>>141482168
I reiterate, fuck them for making Ludger's hot spring reward a hell of an experience.
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>>141481821
It actually just really looks weird because that's part of the artists earlier works. Though they do draw Luke better.
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>>141482091
I've heard that the artbook says that Yuri has thing for blondes.
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>>141482251
That's one of the reasons Julius ending is the best one because fuck those guys.
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>>141482288
Looks like they'd be better off drawing Milla.

>>141482091
I just enjoy seeing them together be it romantic or platonic.
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>>141482489
I actually don't think into Tales anymore, I think that they dropped the series right before Xillia. So there's no Millia art.
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>>141482475
Even if they did peek, Milla could just call upon Gnome and erect a wall. No need for punishment. And if we're perfectly honest, Rowen and Alvin were the only two that did the deed.
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This thread needs more Mikleo.
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>>141482401
Not surprising
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>>141482661
But that would've been the considerate thing to do and they wasn't really big on doing things that took Ludger's or Elle's feelings into account.
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>>141482835
Doubly so when you watch the Gekidou and he makes bedroom eyes at Guy.
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>>141482977
Bros before hos has never been more appropriate a saying.
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>>141482288
Luke-chan is cute! CUTE!
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>>141483001
I don't know what this is. Please tell me more.
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i laughed in the part of Project X Zone 2 were Segata chucks Yuri and Flynn to get to brainwashed Estelle, luckily for them they don't explode like they were during their fight with him when he got his hands on them then although given that they full heal i wonder if they intended them to explode but be healed anyways as some sorta additional part of the gag as well as making a funny full health restore event after the fight with Segata..
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>>141483282
My mistakes, Gekijou is the proper term. All the episodes are on YouTube, just search Tales of Gekijou.
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>>141483438
I appreciate this, thank you.
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>>141483092
I'm just grateful that the game let you choose to not let the party get away all the shit they pulled and fuck over everyone else.
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>>141483217
The cool thing about Luke's design is that it's a fairly low key design that works for male and females.

Pic related a character by Foo Midori.
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>>141482670
Why are there so many doujin of Sorrey fucking Mikleo in his sleep?
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>>141484401
Fujishima has a way with colors that just works even if the character themselves isn't all that great or important. Guy probably has my favorite color pallet.
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>>141484552
You should link to a few dozen of them so we can study the trend.
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>>141484764
Guy's color pallete is altogether very warm and inviting, giving the air of a character that could be either a noble or a servant at the same time. I really do like the character designs for Abyss.

Interesting fact Luke's hair color in when his hair is long is the color of an actual Gaillardia.
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>>141484957
Sadpanda has one, the others are on pixiv, and a few on tumblr of all places.
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>>141485148
>Gaillardia
Huh, didn't even know it was a real thing. I even remember playing Abyss for the first time and flipping out about "Sephiroth" trees. Abyss is my favorite though in all but the OST, which I still love.

So happy the anime got a full adaptation instead of an OVA. Too bad it was never dubbed.
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>>141485435
Yeah I actually ended up loving Luke's character design a lot more once I found out about that little tid bit. Actually the more I find out Luke and Guy's relationship the more I appreciate both characters on a whole.

Abyss generally has a good story with not a lot of moments that will make you bang your head against the nearest hard surface outside of Azieruth.
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>>141485612
>Azieruth
>Tales of Theater
>It's not my fault
Sasuga script writers.

I just wish Inomata would learn from Fujishima. Does literally the near exact character design weapon of choice included, but somehow fails in every aspect.
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>>141485713
Why would she learn anything from Fujishima? People eat her crap like there's no tomorrow.

Milla is a prime example of this. I can't for the life of me understand why people love that BDSM shit outfit.
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>>141485713
The fucked up thing about Azeriuth is that while the story constantly reminds us that Luke destroyed it you realize that he had the least blame in its destruction to the point that you could call it an inevitability.

I don't exactly like all of his designs, but he does have talent.
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>>141486033
>he
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>>141476098
How do you get that costume?
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>>141486092
I was talking about Fujishima. I love his designs for Abyss and quite a few for other games but I'm not fond of all of them.
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>>141486207
One mirrion nippon dorar.

>>141485955
I can forgive Milla because of story reasons. She didn't pick it out. X2 Milla on the other hand, even in alt colors, is an eye sore. Everything but Rutee and Leon are eyesores. I hate everything she does. A lot.
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>>141486311
Leon's costume is so fruity it sort of works.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qOHZg5GKY8
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>>141462053

>it's probably for the best for everyone involved re: censorship.

I have no idea how censorship would even come into play considering the goods usually offered.

>Also Pokemon Centers aren't that great, they all have the exact same arrangement of overpriced made in china plushies and school supplies.

It's not so much about the contents (The Pokemon Center finally opened up a website for orders in the US and such a few years back.) it's more the principal of feeling like equals and not inferior because we're not Nipponese.

I also question it based on the possible economic advantages it could bring, for example I imagine sales of Pokemon merchandise in the US could at the very least come close to those in Japan based on the difference in population size. Square Enix I could also possibly see, but a Tales store at this point is probably not feasible.

It's also a general critique of the stupid shit Japanese companies sometimes do, which has had disastrous consequences in the past when the Japanese branch of a company assumes full control and completely ignores what has been working the American or European branches before and makes no attempt to heed their advice.

It's pretty pathetic that it took Baba going to a convention in France (And possibly more likely flagging sales at home) for Namco to wake up and realize that as far as Tales went they had been repeatedly shitting the bed in the West with their ineffectual tactics and sometimes insulting treatment. It's no surprise that Symphonia is one of the best known and well received Tales games in the West, to my knowledge only being all right in the minds of Japanese fans, since marketing for it was taken out of Namco's bumbling hands by Nintendo.

Truly a lot of this is not even me since I really only got into the series relatively recently. It's the result of listening to a friend who has been a fan since Destiny recounting how bad Namco shit on him and others over the years.
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>>141486818
I only ever knew about the Tales series because of 2 promos included back in Newtype USA DVDs. One for Abyss, and 1 for Legendia. That's it. Eternal Sonata too for that matter.

I honestly think JRPGs would get better reception if there was some sort of advertisement effort. I was surprised to see a Bravely Second TV spot during a commercial break.
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>>141486818
Nips can be very xenophobic and almost downright terrified of change, it's one of the reasons for their low birth rate.
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>>141487011
Funny thing is they used to advertise JRPGS a lot until the 6th generation console cycle.
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>>141487077
The early treatment of anime stuff in the west probably damaged everyone's views on marketing on both sides.Terrible dubs, lack of any merchandise, niche advertising, and just poor quality doesn't make for a good first impression.

As much as I love YuYu Hakusho's OP, only the JP versions got full songs and the sound quality was better. I think even on the DVD I got, the Japanese video was higher quality too. Even Xillia was victim of this with Milla's fake lisp.
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>>141462317
>one of the best parts of Zesty was something that never even happen
What a shit game desu
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>>141487340
Actually at the time that companies really started holding back, the anime market was actually starting to heat up. Good dubs were becoming more and more accessible and the anime market on a whole was experiencing another big boom, the market was niche but still growing and quickly.

The problem is that at this time the naysayers who hated anime because it was anime, while not actually very large in number were very loud, some of which were game developers. The problem is that Japanese developers listened to naysayers instead of the actual market. Of course they didn't realize it until the end of the 6th generation cycle, which is why we're getting more JRPGs.
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>>141487011

I had a subscription to Nintendo Power starting at some point around the release of the Gamecube in the US and I think up until the end. That I think is how I came to at least recognize Symphonia since it and DoaNW got advertising. I picked up Symphonia when it was on Gamecube as a Player's Choice title, but I only played a little of it.

It was when a friend brought the series up around the time that Symphonia Chronicles was being released that I gave it another shot and really fell in love with the gameplay, characters, skits, and other stuff. Afterwards I ended up getting every Tales that was available for current systems (Bar Vesperia since I don't own a 360) and every Tales that has come out since. Admittedly however the only one I played any more of was Abyss for the 3DS. Something I would like to rectify so that I may experience all the other characters I found charming from clips I've seen or things I've read. Finishing Zesteria before Berseria comes out would be nice simply so I can recognize the connections between the two.

I can't really say I've noticed any increase in advertising on Namco's part in the West, but they seem a lot more open and willing to communicate with the Western fanbase, even catering in some areas such as Zesteria on PS4 and both it and Symphonia on PC (Though admittedly the latter was a mess), plus Tales of Link. Though I have a feeling this is because they want to supplement or make up for lost sales in Japan rather than good will.

>>141487077

Japanese stuff was very much big then, but it certainly seems that around the 7th generation that Japan either entered some kind of slump and/or Western fans were unsatisfied with their offerings that didn't seem to take their desires or thoughts into account, allowing Western producers to attain prominence.

While my gaming collection is a mix of both, I do think I own more Japanese games and usually enjoy what they produce more.
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>>141488193
>Finishing Zesteria before Berseria comes out would be nice simply so I can recognize the connections between the two.
When is the anime due? I dropped the game because it's like the game is actually fighting me so I can't enjoy playing it. I suffered through Graces so the story isn't the main problem, but I actually had a lot of fun playing Graces.
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>>141488193
See >>141488134
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>>141488134
>The problem is that Japanese developers listened to naysayers instead of the actual market
Vocal minorities ruin everything. The only reason I could ever see people disliking anime for its existence is the lolicon and underage stuff in general. Because your average American likely wouldn't be into teen girls getting molested for comedy.
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>>141488116
It's one thing I hate, when a game has potential to explore ideas but chooses not to. Sorey and Mikleo becoming tainted and then coming back from that would have been a great development for both their characters.
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>>141487037

I suppose, a gradual continuation of how Namco is currently acting would be nice though, particularly if they can manage to make some merchandise available. Even with a weak yen, shipping and handling seems like no joke.

Some branches have handled things better than others, the Namco European branch seems good at trying to make up for the fact that only Japan gets articles and art about upcoming Tales games. Also ensuring we get important things like this screenshot of Laphicet looking cute in a meadow.
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>>141489122
The shota isn't Eizen, right? RIGHT?!
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>>141489186
No.
>>141454428
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>>141489186
What the fuck? Eizen's design was revealed long ago. He looks like a male Edna.
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>>141489258
I've been gone for a while and only remember the introduction of Not-Milla and the shota.
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>>141489298
Damn that's really long ago man. Eizen's announcement was last month I think. Did you know he's also a party member?
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>>141488883
I think a lot of it came from jealously actually, because at the time the Japanese made games made up most of the market ,and it was still growing. So some jealous American developers may have claimed that JRPGs were dead in the West to scare away Nip developers.

Ironically enough those same developers who used to dog on JRGPs have either become jokes, after they saturated the market with their games or have been forgotten.
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>>141489122
The problem with Japan's weak Yen is that the low population is partially to blame for that (which is another reason why the government wants people to have more kids), so yeah.

Namco Bandai just needs to find someway to get to all their customers at once, and they'll be set.
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>>141489357
As weeb as it sounds I think Jap games are just better than western ones. I've never had an interest in Angry Face McBuff dude or games that just lack any artistic variety. EPIC!!! music doesn't appeal to me in the slightest nor does a FPS. Not saying there are no good Western games nor all JP games are perfect, but I just find Jap ones are better put together as a whole and in number.
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There will be no hot springs or beach episodes in the anime.
>>141489570
They could stop pretending it's difficult to translate things into English in a timely manner and that nobody notices when they receive goods a year after spoilers have already spread across the world.
>>141489622
Japanese games have more effective music anyway. Too much western stuff is just 'nature sounds with muffled orchestra playing in the distance'.
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>>141489766
>mfw Sorey's broad shoulders
I want him to mamoru me.

>'nature sounds with muffled orchestra playing in the distance'.
More like latin chanting and testosterone pumping rock. Techno if it's scifi. I honestly can't name any western games off the top of my head with notable soundtracks and music people will just listen to without it being a premade song for a different purpose.

Funny though when a westerner takes anime inspiration and their works become noticeably memorable in some aspect.
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>>141489622
At the time we did some really original Western games the problem is that they overestimated themselves, and other Western developers hungry for money and wanting to fill up the hole left by JRPGs copied other popular games and became less experimental, which is why the market became saturated so quickly.
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>>141452779
>>141465303
>Baba isn't even involved with berseria

>Tfw i've predicted this long ago after that zestiria fiasco

good fucking riddance, and the new producer guy seems like a cool guy, the way he says fuck you to censorship sjw bullshit

>>141454700
>Yeah, I doubt Zesty is as hated as it is over here as it is over there.
>Implying
if anything the hate in the west is pretty moderate than, they don't go out their way to
threaten to murder baba and his family after all >>141451359
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>>141486311
I like X2 Milla's outfit more, I feel blue suits her more than red.
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>>141490291
Well he doesn't need to do anything since Japanese feminists are the ones telling the SJWs to go fuck off.
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>>141490537
It's the execution that matters. The entire outfit is downright ugly anyways.
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>>141490537
I like Berseria's Milla outfit even more. Black and red are a great combo on her.
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>>141489766

Sorey's swimsuit outfit is great
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>>141489766
>that look that Sorey gives Mikleo.
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>>141491502
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I'm just here for Rose.
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>>141491871
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>>141491591

One of the best parts of Zestiria
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>>141491871
Are you strong enough to save her?
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>>141492635
>>141491871
>mfw I missed the side quest fight against her and Zaveid

I really wanted to kick her smug ass.
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>>141490784
I think it would look good if the yellow and black stuff was removed
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>>141492635

Source?
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I;ve played Graces F, Abyss, xilla 1 & 2, Symphonia and Sym 2.

Is Zestiria really that bad I had thought about picking it up at some point?
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>>141493179
That fight was fucking intense. Why aren't those clowns that strong when they're in my party?
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>>141494257
Meh, I enjoyed it.

Just ignore the skill-equipment system, you'll be fine.

>>141494387
I remember being whipped around by Hubert (the second fight) in Graces. I guess vs party member fights are always tough?
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>>141494257
I enjoyed it. Havent really replayed it though

Edna carries the whole game
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>>141494535
I got 360 hours in.

And it's actually Rose that carries the whole game. Trust me. I have more experience on the subject.
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I want Edna to step on my dick while thinking of her brother's dragon cock
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>>141494257

I hated the story and the combat, but still played it almost to the end. If you've played other Tales games, you might as well do Zesteria
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>>141494257
>shit story
>shit characters
>shit gameplay
Don't trust the waifufags in this thread who claims X was worth it. They're all shit. Save your money.
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>>141495092

I want to smell her boots
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>>141495165
>>141495973
I want to fuck her.
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fucking nerd faggots
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>>141495165
>>141495973
She's the only reason I bothered with ToZ. Edna surpassed Rita for me. She's now the best girl in any Tales game.
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>>141460889
Hell yeah I kept Fenrir as my main monster recruit, too! One day I will sit down and play dotnw again
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>no one in this thread has played a game before Abyss

feels good to be a god among plebs
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>>141497604
What was the earliest one you played new, anon-chan?
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>>141497604
>Didn't start with the translated Phantasia rom.
What kind of newfag are you, anon? Played Symphonia like a colossal faggot?
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>>141497604
I've only played both Xillias and Zestiria.

I've been under the impression that Xillia, Abyss, and Vesperia are the only games worth playing from what I've heard about the series.
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>mfw Symphonia is still my favorite Tales
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>>141497604
I've only played Abyss, Hearts, Graces, ToS/2, Xillia 1 and 2, and Zestiria.

Though I need to play Vesperia but no 360
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>>141498526
Symphonia dawn of the new world is my favorite Tales.
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Would people love Vesperia so much if Yuri wasn't the MC?

Even watching the anime was great mostly because of scenes like :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnfFVqGE6w8
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>>141460685
Damn I had so much fun playing as Gaius.
Didn't have such a blast since Yuri
Them combos
Them counters
Dat big ass sword
It was like having Hakumen in a Tales game.
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>>141487340

While I'm not sure if people were aware of it at the time, Namco's decision to seemingly half-ass the Tales games they did bring over probably didn't help the series. I recall being told about Destiny having an abridged script and not being completely voiced. Symphonia suffered as well from having no voiced skits.

>>141488352

July 2016 supposedly

>>141488515

You might also have a point, my memory if fuzzy, but I do vaguely recall something of negative campaign by certain Western developers and maybe even Western gaming sites.

>>141489622

The West does cover in some areas where Japan lacks and WRPGs offer a much more different experience than their JRPG counterparts. For example, while JRPGs usually have stronger characters, I'd argue that WRPGs have much better worldbuilding, either because they're directly based on pen and paper RPG settings or draw their inspiration from them.
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>mfw Tales of Link is pretty fun
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>a tales thread
You guys made my night.
Which is/are your favorite bonus fights? Which do you think is/are the hardest?
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>>141486311
>X2 Milla on the other hand, even in alt colors, is an eye sore.
That's why you use her jacket-off and also equip bunny ears and tail.
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>>141495973
rather smell her feets
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>>141497604
My first Tales of was Phantasia GBA.
And I didn't even finish playing it.
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>>141491871
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>>141499032
Don't know. I really like the whole main cast in Vesperia.
I like the character dynamics bewteen most of them, mainly how Estelle had a crush on Flynn and later Yuri and how that didn't really become anything.
I like how Yuri and Karol form Brave Vesperia and how it becomes a legit thing when it goes on too.
And most of that would change dramatically if you take anyone of the main party save for Patty.
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Since this is a /a/ thread I will ask:
Do you guys like Abyss animu?
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>>141497604
>I bet Arche fucks like a tiger
Now stop implying.
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>>141501318

It's actually not a bad little game. Gets a tad repetitive though and it sucks that you have to grind if you don't want to pay a cent for the chance to gamble on getting good heroes.

>>141502232

Oh me too, but the boots make a good warm up.
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>>141502788
wish i had patience for mobage
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Fuck you, ufo. Stop teasing.

And dust off your damn keyboard.
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>>141503868
>zaveid is allowed to have nipples in the office
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>>141491993
I liked those sticker with short interaction, that made the team so more lively.
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Edna is really cute. I might as well ply this shit just for her.

How stupid is her story?
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>>141503868
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>>141504207
She's mostly there to be a comedy bitch. Anyone who isn't Sorey, Mikleo or the fake heroines is just along for the ride.
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>>141479864

I remember people saying before that it would be great to see the three of them interact.

>>141485713

Skimming through both of their art books, I noticed that Fujishima seemed to put a lot more thought into the characters clothing and all their bits and pieces, while Inomata seemed a lot more general. Of course this is just going off the picture, the text could tell a different story. I generally think of the three or four Tales artists I prefer Fujishima, though I like characters the others have worked on.
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tales of innocence fan here.
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>>141445344
>Dresseed casually like Assman/Rouge.
>Is Assman by official occupation
>Plays with a Lack of Assman skills.

Well okay, all I got was a knockoff Nel Zelpher.
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How high were the writers of reve unitia?
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Why are the character designs in this series so good?

I only played Zestiria to have an excuse to buy Alisha's alter figure
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>>141505267

I'd kind of like to get Edna, but I'm not sure if I can really justify it.
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>>141505267
Well it is a really good figure.
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So, I've been wanting to get into Zestiria, but have heard so much shit about what was cut and all the mistakes and everything else. Is it worth getting at a lower price?
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>>141505350
Personally if there's any manufacturer to spend stupid and impulsive money on, it's Alter. Their figs are great.
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>>141505403
It really is, Zestiria was a meh game but I don't regret the binge play and impulse buy at all. Definitely my favorite fig.
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>>141505416

Even if I may not necessarily have anywhere to display it at the moment?
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>>141505511
Best to act now and preorder cause if you wait until after release the price will skyrocket. Alter's figs are really worth it.
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>>141505406
>cut
Don't know what you're talking about. There are design choices that not everyone loves, but beyond that it's waifucancer and conspiracies.
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>>141505676
They mean Alisha being advertised as the main girl then Baba deciding to make Rose the main everything going so far as to revoicing a lot of scenes. Also, it's really obvious much more was meant to be added in because of the vast empty fields of nothing and some areas looking half finished.
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>>141501188
Guys, the shota is in the Marlind Museum as a portrait.
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>>141505915
Can't say I've ever heard of them revoicing scenes or this complaint of unfinished areas. And Rose is still a secondary character at best. There's obvious bait and switch that took place, but I think people tend to overstate what that involved.
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>>141505915
One theory was that they planned Zesty to be branched into two paths, Alisha or Rose. Don't ask for citation or anything like that, this was pure theory by some people I think.
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>>141505267
>that design
>normal clothes + gauntlets and greaves
>dumb shorts
>good
Fucking mess is what it is.
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>>141505915
>it's an alishafags and their baseless conspiracy theory episode
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>>141506376
>alishafags
Baba pls. In all the promotional art, the OVA, and general advertising it was always Alisha. Then Rose happened.
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>>141506470
>Then Rose happened.
One damn year after, at that. Baba let his waifufaggotry go too far.
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>>141506376
I don't think Anon's Sister is normally associated with waifus. You can be aware that Rose took over the primary girl (though not heroine, because Mikleo too stronk) role without being invested in one of them because it's extremely obvious Baba discovered his own waifu.
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>>141506330
Good thing you're not a character designer
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>>141493679
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=55394744
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>>141506119
>>141505915
>>141506376
>>141506316

Aren't you still able to buy updated versions of Alisha's equipment long after she leaves the party? Plus the mere existence of her second mystic arte is more than enough evidence to suggest that she was supposed to be around a lot more, but it was cut for some reason.
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>>141506621
I don't really care about either one, but it's actually pretty easy to tell just from looking at their character designs.
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Is Ufotable going to adapt Zestiria as is or are they going to fix it and get rid of Rose?
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>>141506752
You can, but that's more because of the way the shops are stocked, which isn't preset, and the fact that you have to use her again in a late-game boss fight but can run around with her for a bit beforehand.
Not that I think her role wasn't reduced, but temporary characters having full move sets and equipment options isn't unheard of either.
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>>141506929
They're going to get rid of Alishiashit as soon as possible.
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>>141506787
Well yeah, Rose has the better character design.

Thank god Rose wasn't a spear fighter, that'd be extremely unfair for Alisha.
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>>141506959
Wasn't said DLC added in after the fact though?

>>141507062
No she doesn't, especially for a main female. speaking from a purely designing stand point, Rose doesn't look like a main female, her character design doesn't really stand out, it's too simple.
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>>141506929
They'll probably change it. I mean, look at Alisha and Rose here. They're the same size. Not to mention that if they did the same to Alisha in the anime like in the game then there would most likely be a building or two being set on fire in Japan.

I absolutely hated what they did to God Eater. But with Zestiria? I'm looking forward to the changes.

>>141507062
>Rose has the better character design.
Nah.
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>>141506119
>And Rose is still a secondary character at best.
She's co-protagonist.
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>>141507062
>Rose has the better character design
That's just false, anon.

>>141507228
I hope they change it. Rose is a cunt, especially after what went down in the Alisha's Story DLC.
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>>141507165
She does. Her outfit fits its purpose and looks appealing as it is.

>Rose doesn't look like a main female
It is a matter of who they put in the coverage first. A LOT of previous Tales main female have simple design like Rose.
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Aliashit is just a generic peace princess, and a drill hair and ZR don't make her a good design.
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>>141507264
But that's Mikleo.
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>>141507165
I'm not talking about the DLC. She rejoins the party for a little while later in the main story. Her dlc adventure is separate. I think her second MA is also located there, so if you don't play it she'll always be one short.
>>141507264
That's Mikleo. Rose has exactly zero to do with the plot. Even Lailah is more relevant.
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>>141507062
Second best character design in the game.
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>>141507364
And the best one being?
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>>141507320
It isn't, Rose looks halfway between a party member and important NPC. But her design isn't eye catching enough to be a main female.

It's not just the coverage, when you look at the posters, Alisha's design makes her stand out more, it's more eye catching, and you can tell that more thought went into it.
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>>141507362
>>141507345
Lailah's probably like 3rd most relevant.

You can literally replace Meebo with a cardboard cutout and it'll have the same effect as the real one. Until like the scene right before the final boss form I guess.
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>>141507320
>A LOT of previous Tales main female have simple design like Rose.
Simple and bland aren't the same. Rose's colors make her fade into the background and it's not for the sake of being an assassin. Tear wears mostly brown butwill easily stand out next to an NPC. Rose looks like an NPC that got mixed into the main story. I honestly put her in Alisha's outfit just because it looked better. Would be perfect if her hair was closer to pink or a brighter color.

If Rose was put next to all the main girls, she would stick out like a sore thumb or be over looked by more appealing designs.
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Destiny anime never.
;_;
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>>141507320
Rose's design isn't really simple so much as it's just plain, all the other main females with simple designs that aren't plain.
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Why would an assasin wear slutty dress like Alishit?
I swear if Rose's design is swapped with Alishit's, people will shut up regarding How irrelevant their waifu is.
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>>141507462
Not really, it's say that more about Rose than any other character.
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>>141507643
Edna is less relevant to the plot. A rock with Earth kamui will have the same effect.
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>>141507640
Please calm your bait
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>>141507640
An assassin needs to be able to mix fit whatever disguise they use. She's the Shepard's squire so reasonably she should look like one. The best kind of assassin is one that doesn't look like they could be one.
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Was there any reason to write Alisha out of the story? Why didn't they just add Rose in as another playable character if they wanted her to be one? I'm not an expert on Tales lore but couldn't Sorey have multiple squires?
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>>141507820
I like how they handled Alishia. A peace princess who was useless and got kicked out early in the story.
I wished Bandai could've done the same with Kudelia.
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>>141507726
It worked out for Sheena who has my favorite design. Alvin and to an extent Raven didn't seem like killers at a first glance either. But there's blood on all their hands.
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Before Baba.
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>>141507953
After Baba.
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Tales is a pretty garbage series but this design does things to muh dick.

If she really is an edgy femc would be please my dick further.
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>>141507953
>>141507971
Did they really just poorly edit Cheria (Asbel's waifu) 's location
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>>141507916
Exactly the design of an assassin doesn't need to be plain.
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>>141508092
She just wants to fuck shotas and kill people
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>>141507508
Nah, Colette is something that I'd call bland. Rose would do just fine among the main females and distinguishable enough as one of the important characters in her game.

If there's anything bad about her design, it's the hairstyle. I do think it's too much of an average Jane, she could have looked much better with flashier hairstyle.
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>>141460472
You need max speed and to go downhill. You can't do it all that much really.
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>>141508222
No Collete's design and it's usage of colors is simple but not bland. Rose's design and use of colors is just bland, almost like an NPC.
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>>141508157
Doen't need to be striking either to tell people "I'm not an assassin".
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>>141508353
You don't need to be boring to do the same.
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>Make a game with no corny romance this time
>Just bro's doing shit
>Autistic Yaoi shippers eat it up

Fuck this fanbase
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>>141508336
>white outfit and light blonde hair
>not bland
Yeah nah, you cunt.
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>>141508397
I'm just glad Berseria has a producer who doesn't think "the camera is part of the challenge."
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>>141508394
Rose is not boring to me, Alishia's shit dialogues were enough for me not to care for that useless princess
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>>141508397
You don't even need to be a fujoshit to see the sexual tension between Sorey and Meebo. Blame the devs for pandering, if anything.
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Fuck you all. Rose is best girl.
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>>141508462
Rose is a cunt
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>>141508459
Nah you just can't relate that's why, literally no sexual shit at all.
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>>141508531
So slap fights are normal between two male friends?
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>>141508437
You can change design to your liking with costumes.

But you can't shit a shit character like Alisha.
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>>141508397
Go to Final Fantasy if you want romance. Oh wait.
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>>141508407
The color usage isn't bland, and especially when she's with the party she still stands out.
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>>141508652
>fix a shit character
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>>141508128
And edit in Rose, yes.
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>>141508437
I'm talking about designs here though, I don't give a shit about either character.
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>>141508531
You have tickle fights with your male friends?
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>>141508195
He sure is concentrating on dem apples.
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>>141508397
>the game ships it
>the development team ships it
>ufotable ships it
Y-Yeah. Fuck the f-fanbase, r-right?
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>>141482670
Mikleo a best.
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>>141508596
>>141508734
The guy is basically his brother and shit like that is probably how people get along back then
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>>141508397
>Mikleo gets the night-time balcony of love AND the post-credits reunion in a personally meaningful place
Pretty sure the devs intended them to be a bit romantic.
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>>141508822
You have slap/tickle fights with your brother?

>back then
What?
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Posting best girl.
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>>141503868
>>141504235
>those characters
Based ufo knows what's up.
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So a nigger has Symphonia and graces on ps3.

I hear the former has boring gameplay so I'm better off trudging through that first right?
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>>141508432
Happy times are ahead of us
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>>141509007
>So a nigger has Symphonia and graces on ps3.
What? Are you referring to yourself or someone black you know? I dont understand.

>>141508990
Nice choice.
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>>141509007
Symphonia is decently fun and you have 8 characters to mess around with.

Graces is MUH FRIENDSHIP, but a more fun battle system.
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>>141509007
I wouldn't really call Symphonia's gameplay boring but you should still play it first if you're going to play both. Starting with the newer game and then playing the older one is probably not a good idea.
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>>141507228
I doubt they will change anything significant. What's done is already done. Mikleo and Lailah are by far more important than either girls and the are small. Edna is by far one of the most popular characters, and ufo loves, and she's small. Alisha isn't as popular as you want to believe and she's absent in most of ufo's zesty promo or really insignificant.
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Will we ever get a take on Tales of Destiny but with Leon living for once? I think there is a lot of unexplored potential here, with him properly bonding with Stahn and the party and facing his father.
It's the twenty anniversary for Destiny next year so hopefully we get something other than fancy pachinko machines.
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>>141509161
>>141509249
I should expect like 40 hours worth from each game right?
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>>141507364
I don't understand how people can think Rose looks bland. Are people too used to overdesigned pieces of shit? Look at that jacket and dress shirt, it's cute as fuck. She needs a better hairstyle.
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>>141509448
Sounds about right.
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>>141509593
New Milla disgusts me.
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>>141508397
Mikleo's message to Sorrey from the Tales 20th anniversary book:
>My childhood friend was the only one person who has no power as we have.
>After I had recognized human is fragile, I had no doubt this is my business to be with him.
>First of all, I have the logic of the world.
>I’m not beaten at knowledge by him but strength.

>I always believed we will never change to keep living with feeling great history in Elysia.
>But still,you began to progress because of a longing for the tradition.
>You had a kindness and pure heart brought up by the earth so you became the shepherd to devote your life and a sword to the lady of lake along a tradition,in other words,you can not avoid bearing the destiny of purification and the dragon’s emblem.

>You were denied. You were avoided. People who should saved by you were afraid of you. Even so,you were smiling with tears and kept standing to be strong as shepherd.

>If I could share your sadness with you or disappear your sufferings…actually,If I was the same race as you,I could understand you and stand by you closer.
>I could heal your heart to share our soul if I could live in exactly same time.

>Water is sensitive than other attributes and spill out easier.
>This means there is a possibility to draw malevolence to friends by my little hesitation.
>However,water can wash it away clearly and also purify with changing their form flexible.

>If pains of each other make us feel a acute grief as if it happened to myself,I’m going to eliminate any your hardships.
>Although something make me to be confused or anger or cry to save no person,I must keep your own life being no malevolence by my power of water.
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>His name is Kor
>Literally everyone in the game calls him Shing

Why is this allowed?
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>>141509627
cont.
>This is my life that had dead once as a human and rebirth as a seraphim.
>It’s my duty to make advance with friend and find a significance I was rebirth as a seraphim.
>That’s because we had destined to bear the fate over the shepherd from our origin.

>There is the light of circlet on my forehead.
>I’ll give it a great power as a seraphim who lives close to human.
>That is what like a hope Gramp put into a book or a wish Muse offered prayers to the circlet.

>We need no more words to pledge.
>You already know my true name long time ago.
>The voice calling my name always give the power for me to go beyond everything together whatever hardship or grief stand in our way.

So yeah, it makes sense that Mikleo's feelings towards Sorey can be seen as homosexual in nature.
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>>141508822
They're not little kids though, they're having those being that playful as adults.

Even in the past people didn't used to have tickle fights with one another.
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>>141509604
>GamerClick: Many player didn't like Zestiria. Do you think they'll like more Berseria?

>Fukaya: Talking about content, the secondary chapters in Zestiria were less than in previous games, but in Berseria we're going to have a lot of secondary chapters, and many oh them will give important informations abaotu the main story. In the same way, while Zestiria doens't have mini games, Berseria we'll have many mini games.

>GamerClick: Velvet is similar to Milla, is it just a coincidence?

>Fukaya: Milla was very important in the process of Velvet's creation, because Milla is one of most beloved characer of the series, not only in Japan, but even in Europe and North America. So no, it was not a coincidence, and it was very difficult to create a character like Milla.

Get fucked sjw
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>>141509683
>what is romantic friendship
He even explicitly said the word friend. Educate yourself:
http://www.bartleby.com/32/105.html
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>>141509627
>>141509683
BEST WAIFU
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>>141509735
This fukaya guy sounds like a total bro
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>>141509791
>Written in 1909
Yeah, this is just closeted homosexuality. Don't kid yourself.
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>>141509791
The two of them aren't in a relationship, they are friends. You can have romantic feelings towards your friends but it wouldn't change the fact that they're still your friend.

Or are you one of those idiots who believes that once a person has feelings for someone else that automatically means that they're in a relationship?
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>>141509604
I think she'd look better if her clothes didn't look like she got into a fight with a lawn mower. Tattered rags can be stylish if designed right. See Bloodborne. I don't find Milla and Jude's angsty daughter stylish outside of her flashback look.
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>>141509735
My problem with Velvet is that she looks over designed.
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>>141509735
>because Milla is one of most beloved characer of the series
Rita is more popular female.
They should have Velvet loli-like, like Edna, who got tons of popularity and art right after they unveiled her design, something Velvet didn't get.
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>>141509868
1580 actually, the translation is from 1909

>>141509887
>The two of them aren't in a relationship, they are friends
We're arguing the same point then. Perhaps I should not have used the confusing term "romantic friendship" to describe this type of intense friendship. But I think we can all agree with Montaigne that it's wrong to read anything sexual in this type of relationships, since is far nobler. If you read the quote below from the essay I posted, it's pretty clear that the latter better describes Mikleo and Sorey.
>the flames of passion are more active, sharp and keen. But that fire is a rash one, fickle, fluctuating and variable; it is a feverish fire, subject to attacks and relapses, which only gets hold of a corner of us. The love of friends is a general universal warmth, temperate moreover and smooth, a warmth which is constant and at rest, all gentleness and evenness, having nothing sharp nor keen.
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>>141510054
>Yuri forever banned
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>>141510171
>1580
Point still stands, if not moreso. Literally just closeted homosexuality. You couldn't just come out and say "I want to fuck my male friends" in 1580, you'd be burned at the stake.
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>>141510195
And Leon
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>>141510054
You know the only ones who bother voting for that trash poll is fujoshit right? and i rather trust the new producer guy than some random anon on /a/

>>141509989
Just like most of tales character then

>>141509906
Don't worry, you can always wear less, she definitely will have her half nude prisonner costume as DLC
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>>141509735
>anyone who doesn't like Velvet design is an SJW
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>>141510459
See >>141509078
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>>141510390
Are you seriously arguing Rita is not more popular than Milla? Vesperia cast shits all over xillia's. Unless you have some other popularity poll I'll take that over some producer with a Milla fetish. Seems like they all have a waifu now.
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I hope Berseria is good and sell a fuckton
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>>141509735
Sounds like Toryiama- Lightning, Baba-Rose situation. They like a character and want to convince everyone that they are beloved too
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>>141510474
Your /v/ is showing. Keep that boogeyman shit out of here.
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>>141510563
>implying /a/ doesn't do the same thing all the time
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>>141510474
yup

>>141510459
She's a demon that hulks out frequently, driven at first solely by vengeance. Of course her clothing is going to fucked up and she doesn't care. Anyone can tell exactly what her personality is supposed to be by what she looks like which is good visual design.
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>>141510544
>>141510509
He won't have to, Xillia is by far the best selling tales of game ever, both in japan and western

it's only logical they would design a character similiar to milla, appearance-wise, gotta milk it somehow
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>>141510171
I never once claimed that they were in a romantic relationship, but rather that their feelings for one another were homosexual in nature.

Also bit of advice be don't ever quote any old authors, philosophers, or theorists on the subject on homosexuality in literature or otherwise in the past, because a lot of the people who wrote that shit were in fact closeted homosexuals themselves. And used to write that bullshit to justify their own attraction or feelings towards other men. That's why essays like that tend to taken as bullshit now-a-days.
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>>141510689
>Xillia is by far the best selling tales of game ever
That goes to symphonia or abyss.
Nearly every jrpg fan played one of those.
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zestiria halloween costumes when?

>in b4 catboy mikleo
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>>141510649
No. That design is trash. It looks like it was done under the supervision of an edgy 14 years old social reject.
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>>141510689
Best selling Tales are Destiny and Destiny 2, then Abyss.
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>>141510649
As far as I've seen it's just her arm that hulks out. Also, I find her clothes too bright of a red. Worked for Rutee, but I just find every other cast member more appealing to look at than Velvet. Even book belt.
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>>141510649
>implying you can actually surmise that much from her design only
Don't kid yourself, you came to that conclusion after you saw few character summaries and trailers.
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>>141510340
I know this is bait but Montaigne explicitly denied that sort of lust in true friendship:
>And that alternative licence of the Greeks is rightly abhorrent to our manners; moreover since as they practised it it required a great disparity of age and divergence of favours between the lovers, it did not correspond either to that perfect union and congruity which we are seeking here. For even the portrayal of it by the Academy will not I think belie me when I say this about it: that the original frenzy inspired by Venus’ son16 in the heart of the Lover towards the bloom of a tender youth (in which they allow all the excessive and passionate assaults which an immoderate ardour can produce) was simply based on physical beauty, a false image of generation in the body (for it could not have been based on the mind, which had yet to show itself, which was even then being born, too young to sprout)
It saddens me that lardwhale tumblrinas cannot accept the existence of such a strong relationship between men that isn't sexual in nature, though your hysteria does vindicate Montaigne's own claim that women is incapable of attaining these noble relationships.
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>>141509989
And it really stands out, since half of what she's wearing is tattered rags, so it's even weirder that she's got a bunch of extra shit all over the place.
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>>141510649
We only see her arm "hulk out". I'd rather her wear a bikini rather than that retarded shredded shit. But no, I'll have to buy dlc to get her in something actually good.
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>>141509651
Maybe they were planning on dubbing it it at some point?
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>>141510770
>>141510824
>1. Symphonia
>2. Destiny
>3. Destiny 2
>4. Xillia

>http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?titleenglish=tales&stte=1&titlejapanese=&platform=&stpl=0&publisher=&stpu=0&date1=&date2=&std=&price1=&price2=&sltd1=&sltd2=&gameid=&orderby=&res1=&res2=&opt=1
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>>141510761
>any close relationship between men were homosexual in nature, dey just faggots in denial!!!!111!!
>how dare you suggest the existence of something so noble that is beyond the comprehension of my tiny leftist feminist brain
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>>141510850
personality =/= backstory, sure you won't know what her deal is just by looking at her but but you can guess she has a harsh personality and probably doesn't care about what people think.

>>141510901
i look forward to purchasing the swimwear dlc and finding Velvet's bikini also shredded
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>>141509989
>over designed

Literal meme word that has lost all meaning. Just like comfy.
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>>141511092
Comfy never had any meaning, though.
It's the new "it's fun" when you lack arguments do defend something you like.
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>>141510808
>>141510808
Her design makes my dick solid hard, so of course it's a good design

after zesti garbage, velvet was a welcome change.
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>>141511092
It's a clusterfuck of belts and pieces of fabric that have no cohesion. The only part that looks good is the underboob top. The edgy cape is shit.
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>>141510873
>Montaigne
The same guy who hated the ideas of marriage, and romantic love?
Never quote quote old philosophers especially on the subject of love, marriage, and friendship. It's just like why Freud is laughable today.

>>141511013
>quotes old philosophers who have a tendency to be well known to autistic closeted homosexuals who come up with their bullshit philosophies because they don't want to admit that they're abnormal.
>gets called out for it
>you just don't understand.
Hilariously enough it's not feminists that call out their bullshit, but other men who realize that they're full of shit.
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>>141511031
>i look forward to purchasing dlc
Just kill yourself
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>>141511031
You don't need to wear retarded outfit to show that much. Mere facial expression can convey it better.

Face it, that costume was designed with fapbait as priority, which is not a bad thing, but let's not pretend it's anything deep and representative of the character.
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>>141510873
>>141511013
You sound like a closeted homosexual yourself trying to justify this with 500 year old philosophy. It's the CURRENT YEAR, it's OK to be gay. Nobody cares.
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Why is everyone complaining about Velvet's design when Eizen's design is 10x edgier?

> asymmetrical boots
> knife in his lapel
> black coat with dragon wings on the back
> and holes for his phantom wings
> literally called a shinigami

We'll probably get a skit where they exchange "cool" end of battle quotes while Magilou takes the piss out of them.
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>>141511092
What other word should I use to mean overdone.
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>>141510808
Kek, nice bullshit generic assumptions.
Her design is fine and is a perfect fit
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>>141511280
This woman doesn't transform into a goddamn monster.
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>>141511362
>it's OK to be gay. Nobody cares.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMTbFSJ_Tr4
In russia you could be beaten to death if you gay, and the offender won't get a heavy punishment, because gay is a literal crime
and the same also happen in most part of the world

also if i hate kids, and argue that kids shouldn't be sexualized, is that mean that i'm a closet pedo?
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>>141511433
At this point it's clear you either have no sense of style and thus can't identify why others think a design is poor, are a jap, or are only thinking with your dick like a 14 year old.
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>>141511467
Velvet doesn't go full Hulk either, it's only her arm.

They can give her something like pic related, which is obviously far less retarded looking and can get the "meaning" across, but nope, let's give her tattered rags so she looks like a rape victim.
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>>141511576
Says the underage pretentious retard who lose his shit as soon something is erotic, despite making perfect sense.
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>>141511620
>it's only her arm.
Did you finish the game? No? That's what I thought.
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>>141511620
> looks like a rape victim
sjw spotted
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>>141511637
She's a fujoshit, she said that yet she shclik at zaveid topless

fujoshi and their double standard, what do you expect from them?
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Horrible thread, western women ruin everything.
>>141511576
Hey, you forgot your name this time.
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>>141511675
Whatever helps you sleep at night my man. I enjoy shameless fanservice from time to time, but trash design is trash design.
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>>141511205
>The same guy who hated the ideas of marriage, and romantic love?
Citation needed

>Never quote quote old philosophers especially on the subject of love, marriage, and friendship. It's just like why Freud is laughable today.
Yet you were never able to produce a shred of evidence to suggest anything sexual between the relationship of Montaigne and de la Boetie, or David and Jonathan, or Corelli and Fornari for that matter, while Montaigne has consistently provided reasonable arguments and explanations for all his views. Shouting "It's the CURRENT YEAR, of course all old unprogressive farts are repressed homos" does not advance your argument any further you know.

>who come up with their bullshit philosophies because they don't want to admit that they're abnormal.
Nice projection.
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>>141511514
Which is exactly why philosophers had to come up with bullshit like "romantic friendships." They were avoiding persecution.

That isn't necessary for the developed world today, so people can just admit they're gay.
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>>141511433
It's overdone, hell even Tetsuya Nomura's desings shows more restraint than this.
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>>141511576
>think a design is poor
Inomata and fukaya says otherwise

>Fukaya:“I promise. Velvet’s costume will surely be the same in the western version. The design of that costume is created by Mutsumi Inomata, and she created that costume based on the character’s concept and setting, and on the storyline. I believe that those who support the Tales Of series like to have exactly the same content as the Japanese version. We believe it’s ideal and the best option to bring exactly the same game experience and design to the western countries. I promise that Velvet is still Velvet in the western version.”

and just look at those sexy art, simply the best
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>>141511809
You seriously think it's unreasonable that 16th century philosophers weren't avoiding persecution for being gay by coming up with concepts like "romantic friendships?"

Apply the same logic to a male-female relationship and what do you get? A normal sexual relationship.
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>>141511651
After beating the game, I still wonder why he died.
I hope the anime will have a different storyline.
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>>141511935
>an artist believes his/her design is good
In other news, sky is blue.
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>>141511809
>Citation needed
http://www.britannica.com/biography/Michel-de-Montaigne
he was also a very devout Roman Catholic, with a questionable relationship with his own childhood friend. It's a well known fact that one should never take any sort of philosophies on relationships in general seriously, because 99% of the time the philosopher is projecting. In the 16th century a person would never ever openly admit to being homosexual especially a person who a devout Catholic.

You're also talking to two different anon.
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Anyone has ripped the Sprite out of Zestiria?
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>>141511961
>You seriously think it's unreasonable that 16th century philosophers weren't avoiding persecution for being gay by coming up with concepts like "romantic friendships?"
"romantic friendships?" an entirely modern term, I took it from a wikipedia entry. And I don't say that's unreasonable, just give me reasonable proof.

>Apply the same logic to a male-female relationship and what do you get? A normal sexual relationship
Are you literally telling me the only way for two human being to have any sort of relationship or interaction is for it to be sexual in nature?
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>>141511679
No one here is complaining about how much skin she's showing, though. The problem is that her outfit is a bunch of random belts and accessories over bits of torn fabric and that none of it goes together. Her design would actually be better if she was wearing less.
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>>141512108
Did you even read the article you posted.
>he was also a very devout Roman Catholic
Which automatically makes him a pedophile and notorious homosexual right? *tips fedora*
> with a questionable relationship with his own childhood friend
Nowhere does the article say that. In fact he didn't meet Etienne de la Boetie until he was 24, and the guy was 5 years his senior.
>because 99% of the time the philosopher is projecting
It seems like you're the only one who's desperately grasping for straws to support your own projections.
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>women will never understand bro relationships such as the one between Sorey and Mikleo
Sucks to be them, I guess.
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>>141511837
>That isn't necessary for the developed world
If you're gay, there's a high chance you will be treated as a freak and a creep, there's a reason why most of gay people are in depression/despair

>Fear of isolation
>Fear of ostracism, fear of being a social pariah
>Fear of disapproval, fear of shunning, fear of assault or bullying
>Fear of rejection by family or community, fear of homelessness

nowadays the rate of suicide among gay people is higher than ever, and the trend is going up, and in the rest of the world, being gay is a crime, and you can go to jail for that

>http://rationalfaiths.com/the-lgbtq-mormon-crisis-responding-to-the-empirical-research-on-suicide/
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>>141511935
see >>141512054
Furries think their rainbow rave fursonas are good designs too.
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>>141512313
So by your logic the artist must be thinking with her dick, even though inomata was a woman, i never knew that she was actually a MtF transgender
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>>141512270
see >>141512306
>Which automatically makes him a pedophile and notorious homosexual right?
I did read the article, the association with Roman Chatholics and homosexual is a current thing. To the point that you sound stupid bringing it up as a rebuttal. Roman Catholics were famously associated with homophobia.

>Nowhere does the article say that. In fact he didn't meet Etienne de la Boetie until he was 24, and the guy was 5 years his senior.
You never read the whole article then.

>It seems like you're the only one who's desperately grasping for straws to support your own projections.
Anon, the fact that philosophers on a whole tend to project, is a well known thing to anyone with even a basic knowledge of psychology.
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>>141512390
No, I'm saying that since it's Inomata's design, of course she'd think it was good. You on the other hand I'm saying are one of the 3 I listed. Not all of them yet it's entirely possible.

Do you understand?
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less talking about romantic friendships, more pictures
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>>141512664
Edna makes me rock hard.
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Rose still a best.

Stay mad, Alishafags.
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>>141512744
Fuck off back into hiding, Baba.
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R O S E
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>>141512664
Thread's ded but ok.
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>>141512767
Alisha a shit and you can't do anything about it.

Praise Rose.
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