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Which design do you prefer?

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Which design do you prefer?
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>>141424329
S1 > S2
S2 > S1
S2 > S1
Everything aside from designs: S1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S2
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S1 is easily superior
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S1 Saika is godness
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>>141424329
ponkan8 > all other official artwork
sometimes ponpon > ponkan8
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>>141424329
Novel.
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>>141424329
all s2 except yuigahama she needs s1 tits
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Of course 1st. Hand drawn are always superior than digital images
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>>141424329
I like both. Can't decide.
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I like both, but ultimately prefer season 2. Season 1 feels a little simplistic and the animation quality/design is often very mediocre. Season 2 has a difficult time pulling off Yukino's typical facial expression shown in the s1 picture, which may in part be due to character development, it's nice that we see her smile far more often now though.
>>141425188
This guy knows what's up, we haven't really seen Yui's rack up close in season 2 as far as I can recall, but they seem smaller.
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>>141425188
Yeah, I'm not sure why she got downgraded.

Yukinon's are perfect as always: modest, but not flat.
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>>141425843
I don't like the facial close-ups in S2 at all, like a kid's drawing
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>>141425295
the main series ending is clear. Yukino is conflicted on her lesbian love of Yui and straight love of Hachiman. She really wants to be the girlfriend of both. Hachiman also has a certain amount of the bi going on with Totsuka. Clearly the four-way Yui-Yukino-Hachiman-Totsuka path is the correct one
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>>141424329
Novels is best
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>>141424329
i like the girl that says senpai
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>>141424329
S2 by far. Brain's Base's looks so cheap it's not even funny
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S2 are too samefacey
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>>141426381
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>>141426381
Girls that says senpai or death!
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>>141424661

The worst part is that the only scenes that resembled S1 were the ones without Yui or Yukino, so I started dreading their presence Pavlov style.
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>>141426296
Yuki is a Lesbian? Hello? Say what? I am pretty sure 8mans attraction to Totsuka is just a gag.. you know that right?
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>>141424754
Good choice.
Yukino and Yui designs from S1 were superior.
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>>141428485
best girl
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>>141424661
>Everything aside from designs: S1 > S2
NOPE
Irohasu is love
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>My Landmine Kouhai is Dangerous as Expected
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S2 Yukino is utter shit. You must be blind and retarded if you think S2 is better.
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>>141429158
Yukinon 1 and 2's designs are basically the same. Why is the latter so bad?
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S2 8man is too handsome
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>>141424329
I'm going to say S1 simply because of bias. S2 took a scene I cried at in the light novel and made it solely awkward. Not to mention S2 has weird adaptation decisions where some books only got a small portion of time compared to the others. The Hayato Science/Arts fiasco in particular got, what, a single episode? Where as it was an entire novel to begin with. S1 just had better decisions and impact all around.
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>Hayamin character quadruple-album
>bonus disk: her talking in character for an hour
Soon.

Okay, never.
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>>141424329
Hikki looks better (or at least more believable as a loser) in Season 1. When it comes to the other characters, both designs are fine.
In terms of plot, the first season shits all over the second though. The only good thing that happened in the second season was Iroha.
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Post Accelerator
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S1 Hachiman actually looks like an unfriendly faggot. S1 Hachiman wins no contest.
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>>141430767
>unfriendly
So, an accurate representation.

Granted, season 2 made him look somewhat attractive but creepy, which is how he is described.
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>>141424329
why did I like this anime
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>>141430941
Because it takes generic high school rom com situations and adds biting cynicism in place of where the idealism is supposed to be. However it manages to do that without being moody and unbearable to sit through.
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>>141431038
>moody and unbearable to sit through
The sequel had a lot of great character interaction, but the whole GENUINE bit is exactly as you describe.
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Komachi looked better in season 1

>>141431038
Not really, it's the same school life "teenagers learning to stop being antisocial spergs" with the usual trope of everyone falling for the MC as most other shows of this type. Yahari's nothing particularly special.
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>>141428266
Hachiman has commented several times on their "slightly unhealthy Yuru-Yuri relationship"
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>>141431072
And that's why I FUCKING HATE it in the anime. The light novel made me tear up, legit. After Hikki tries his best to save his club and gets kicked in the balls at the end when he find out that even if they were in the council they still would have been the same club in spirit, and finds his club slowly drifting apart as Iroha drags him around like a dog, the pent up frustration and anguish going in there, as well as the fact he has trouble finding the words and everyone is sobbing even before he finishes that thing he can't describe, is really touching in the novels.
In the anime it's a cringe scene.
imo and all that.
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>>141431145
Saika-chan in the lower right?
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>>141431270
Nah, it's Sagami, as the Hair is too dark for Totsuka
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>>141431145
>no Saika
It's shit.
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>>141431145
Source? I've found the image but can't find the artist.
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Yui won the Hikki bowl already. Yukino helped her do it too, willingly.
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S2 8man looks more like you'd expect a guy with at least four attractive girls interested in him to look like.
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>>141430859
He looks hot to me. Way too much so.
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>>141431603

> He doesn't realize all of ANOTHER is a fevered fantasy that runs through Yui's mind just before the rope breaks her neck so that she can die with a smile on her face
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>>141431648
>four attractive girls
Wait. Who? I count 3 at most. Yui, Yukino, and Iroha if you count him as being second choice being "interested".
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>>141431720

It's clear that Saki is at least interested, even if she's not pursuing him very hard.
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>>141431108
no the two loners already have friends and acquaintances now. Guess again what the prime issue is. OreGairu NOT typical
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>>141431720
Saki, orimoto, sensei, yuimom, yukimom, everyone wants the 8inch
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>>141431753
I see. I'm not sure I completely agree but I can see where you're coming from there. She seems like the type who would tell herself she was "too busy" for anything like that though.
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>>141431844

I thought it was pretty clear during the chocolate making scene and afterwards.
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>>141431867
It's been a while since I've seen/read it admittedly. After S2 ended I stepped back from it, so I could easily be forgetting all her signs and flags as she isn't exactly a major character.
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>>141431714
Nice try Yukinocuck. Yui won and Yukino helped her proving that she doesn't like him to begin with. She got her happy friendship end. Yui will win again in the main series.
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Why does 8man get so fucking handsome in between s1 and s2?
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>>141432003

> She got her happy friendship end
Comical

> Yui will win again in the main series
Don't stop believin'
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S1 >*

because
>Love Comedy
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S1 for everything, why did this even get a second season
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>>141432043
>Comical
???

She helped Yui and is much better friends with her now. Hikki can become her friend too.
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>>141432043
It's highly likely Yuipollfag. Don't respond to him.
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>>141428485
I probably co't help but think about this webm when I eventually watch the Mad Max movies.
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Yuifag here. I am very worried that WW is taking so long with vol 12 and that Yui won the AU. I am still pissed that he made Yui seem like a Hikki hungry girl that would step on her friend's throat.
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I like both
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>>141432232
I'm out of the loop. What is this AU that's being mentioned?
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>>141432268
ANOTHER. Yui wins and Yukino helps her but swallows her feelings while doing so.
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>>141432268
it's a bone Watari threw the Yuifags where all of a sudden Hachiman doesn't care about Yukino any more and other characters start acting weird in freaky unnatural way. Under those conditions Yui can win apparently. Has nothing to do with OreGairu other than same names so don't bother with it
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>>141432232
That's the natural pain of two friends loving and going for same guy. It's a part of life, deal with it. Yukino will step on Yui's feelings and heart in the main series, watch for it
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>>141432479
Yukino wasn't even going for 8man. She just ran away and decided to hide herself and her feelings.
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>>141432329
>>141432386
>responding to bait
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>>141432657
No. Sadly, it wasn't bait. I'm really that clueless.
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>>141432597
after the ending of vol 11/S2 that is going to change. Yukino will go for what she wants in life and that includes Hachiman. Yui will make a noble attempt too but will be crushed it is clear
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>>141426296
>>141431192
>Yukino is conflicted on her lesbian love of Yui
>source: my delusional yurifag headcanon
Kill yourself.
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>>141436202
I quoted the main series canon

You're the one ignoring all the canon evidence in the main series. Your head is superfluous, best get rid of it
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>>141431534
Yes, I had to go through a few hoops myself, but the full resolution was worth it.

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It's seems to be neither on the danbooru, nor on his pixiv.
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>>141424329
Speaking as a nonwatcher, S2 Yukino looks terrible in almost every picture I've seen. The others look okay either way.
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>>141424329
In retrospect, both fit for what they are. S1 is more comedic and lighthearted, while S2 is where all the heavy stuff happens.

I wouldn't want Hachiman's famous line from S2 with the season 1 character designs and art design, it just wouldn't hit as hard.
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>>141437493
it didn't really hit hard in the first place anyway, honestly the character animation in S2 looks more fluid but very awkward some times.
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>>141438230
>When you bust a mut inside Sensei
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>>141438230
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"Senpaiii~, I'm lying on your bed, what are you going to do about it?"
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>>141440426
Ignore you and go for someone that isn't a slut.
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Grab my gun and shoot the hussy for home invading.
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>>141440426

I learned my lesson the last time you cut a hole in the condom. Now I lose 1/4 of every paycheck.
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>>141436667
It's Yui that is Yurigahama not Yukinon
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>>141440702
In spite of everything else, Light Novel Hikigaya is definitely the worst. He's 18 in some illustrations and other times he's 10.
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So say Hachiman rejects Yui, friendzones Iroha, then goes all in for Yukino. Yukino overcomes all her issues, is completely better, but then rejects Hachiman because she's leaving and can't be with him, leaving him devastated, will Haruno feel a tiny shred of sympathy for him?

Does she care about the tool in her hand to fix Yukino after the job is done? Or does she just callously cast the tool aside?
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>>141441307
Haruno doesn't care about Hachiman. She only cares about him as long as he interacts with Yukino.
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>>141441307
I like pity-sex as this is the only way i can fuck other than criminal acts
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>>141441307
She wouldn't give a fuck.But that's fine because Hachiman would do something ridiculous and potentially self-destructive to out-plan her if it came to that.
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S1 is self-insert tier.
Middle is superior.
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I think Yukino and Haruno suffered the most from the design change. They're still decent but I vastly prefer S1. Everyone else improved.
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>>141441541

I agree. Although I'm not as bothered by S2 Yukino as S2 Haruno.
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>>141440906
>Handsome 8man

Why? Part of his character is that he's supposed to be ugly or at least normal looking.
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>there are people who unironically prefer the looks of S1 with poorer production values
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>>141441612
The characters tend to comment that the only unappealing part of his face is his eyes. Otherwise, he'd actually be really handsome.
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>>141441633
Look more charming. S2 designs suffer from sameface syndrome and the production values and animation aren't that good of an improvement, they actually look kind of plastic-y and too shiny in S2.
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>>141441721
He should wear glasses like her mom
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>>141441633

The only thing I really like about S2 design is how Yukino and Hachiman look made for each other.

I mean look at that fucking couple. They're like soulmates.
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>>141441772
There's nothing "charming" about S1's designs, they are simply bad. Both seasons have the typical modern anime colouring so that's not a big difference to me. S2 definitely has far superior character animation.
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>>141441880
So as sensei, rumi and blonde yukinon?
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>>141441721
No one has ever said that he was handsome apart from his eyes, only that his eyes were really creepy. The only one who has commented on his looks in a somewhat positive manner is Yukino.
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I wish all the Yukinofags got cancer. They are too delusional.
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>>141441938

> Sensei
Too tall

> Rumi
Too short

> blonde Yukinon
Blonde would not fit. Two dark hair is better.
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>>141441975

That would just make them all Irohafags.
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>>141441975
Not even a Yukinofag, but that is incredibly uncalled for. Kind of makes me want you to get cancer instead.
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>>141441896
>S2 definitely has far superior character animation.

It wasn't anything special. S1 designs were charmingly bad. S2 just look like the typical mass produced samefacey shit.
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Why is Yui trying to steal Yukino's bf? Friends don't do that to each other. Yui is an awful and stupid person. She doesn't even know penguins are birds.
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>>141442191
Go away Yuipollfag.
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>>141424329
Hikki's eyes don't look close enough to that of a dead fish. S1 design is better in that regard.
Apart from that, I don't mind either design, but I wish S1 had less QUALITY. Unless I mix it up and there wasn't that much more than in S2.
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>>141442038
Both season are of the typical anime style, but at least S2 designs are more detailed and visually appealing. The only anime that I can say has somewhat similar design to S2 is the Railgun anime, but that's because they have the same character designer. There's a decent amount of subtle character animation in the form of stylized realism too, the second season had good main animators after all unlike the first which had no good animators.
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>>141441612
8man's not supposed to look ugly. Yukino said his eyes are rotten after 8man commented on his own good looks, but she danced around the comment while not saying anything about his supposed other good looks. Yui also said he looks pretty plain after Saika said he looks pretty good. Komachi also remarked that his "dead-fish" eyes are the only unappealing part about him, and that he used to not have such an unappealing look. All in all, he definitely doesn't look ugly to the other characters. Perhaps he does look like a pretty boy, but his rotten facial expressions diminish that.
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>>141442439
No one has actually said he looks handsome except him. They're all just "well, you're not ugly".
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S2 looks strange.
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I'd fuck S2 8man just sayin
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Hachiman isn't ugly. His eyes are "rotten", but otherwise it's mostly his poker face and creepy mannerisms that make him unattractive.

He's not some Adonis chiseled from stone, either.

I dunno. I generally think of him as someone who is decent enough looking where looks won't hurt him overmuch (if not for the aforementioned parts, some of which come down to personal taste), but unlike Hayama not so good looking that he should be posing for romance novel covers.
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>>141442825

There's no need to spoiler that. Everyone already knows the inevitable end.
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>>141424329
S1
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>>141442344
Well I don't agree. The designs did not appeal to me.

There wasn't that much improvement in animation either, aside from like 6 or 7 very short scenes, worst thing (for me) is that half of those were done by Tetsuya Takeuchi and I really hate his style.
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>>141442854
Last I checked Yui won. Yukino is lucky that Yui looks out for her and is sweet to her.
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>>141441383

that doesn't explain her interest and remarks about him such as "maybe you're too good for Yukino-chan" or Hayama's observation about setting up double date which was not for Yukino at all "she must like you"
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>>141431773
>no the two loners already have friends and acquaintances now
it took the protagonist 11 volumes to be able to talk to the two girls in an honest manner
that other anon is sort of correct, it's another series about school kids getting their heads out of their asses. That doesn't make it inherantly bad or anything, and I guess on some levels Yahari carries this out in an interesting manner.
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>>141443076
In ANOTHER Haruno drops 8man as a person of interest when he goes on Yui's route.
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>>141441880
>The only thing I really like about S2 design is how Yukino and Hachiman look made for each other.
you mean Orimoto, right
not even an Orimotofag, her and 8man just look weirdly fitting together visually
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>>141443306

Nah, close but no cigar. That hairstyle of hers doesn't do it.
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>>141424329
S1 had its charm, but S2 is just beautiful.
I personally think that both work for the best for their respective seasons.
S1 was goofy enough to warrant more laid back designs.
S2 had more character development and genuine, which I think it works the best with its design.
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>>141442952
>half of those were done by Tetsuya Takeuchi and I really hate his style.
Interesting, why do you not like it?
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>>141424329
S1 Iroha >>>> S2 Iroha
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>>141444131
S1 Haruno >>>>>>>>>>>>>> S2 Haruno

S1 Orimoto >>>>>>>>>>>> S2 Orimoto
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Why are some people shocked that Yui is not as nice as 8mam thinks and is selfish and unfair? She says as much.
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After reading vol 10 infirmary scene, I have to agree the anime exaggerated it.

I'm not sure it's the moment Yukino realized she liked Hachiman. She must have known it before. It may have been the moment Yui realized Yukino liked Hachiman though.
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>>141444618
I don't think it is where she figures it out either. In ANOTHER she never has that scene but likes him and is aware of it.
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>>141444779

Which would mesh with it being the scene that tells Yui that Yukino likes him. Because as I understand it Yui doesn't figure it out in ANOTHER until the chocolate making scene.
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>>141444867
From what I have read on nip sites Japan thinks that the infirmary scene is the trigger for Yukino to want to pursue 8man. Without it she doesn't make him chocolate. It sort of proves that what was in her bag is a symbol of her feelings and her wanting to pursue.
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I always thought S1 looked way better I was really confused when I moved on to S2
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>>141424329
s1 for hachiman
s2 for everyone else

they made him too handsome in s2
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>>141445307

Maybe. I just felt like the scene in the LN was underwhelming compared to the anime.

I agree it could be a trigger or romance flag, especially given how in ANOTHER the flag went to Yui and Yukino acted differently in the end.
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>>141445651
Anime tends to need to beat you over the head with things. It is like that with any book ---> anime/movies/tv show.
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So did Yui really win? Is she going out with hachiman or did Yukinon just say she will support Yui or some shit like that because when someone says that they usually go back on it.
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>>141445360
I believe S2 8man would have two hotties barking up his tree. S1 8man is a stretch even for Yui to look at him.
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>>141446880

Yui won ANOTHER. Main story is yet to be decided.
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>>141446880
Yes, she is on a v day date with Yui and he holds her hand. He promises to go on ANOTHER one and it gives the feel of a romance that has just started.

Yukino was getting shit from Harunon, Yui figures out that Yukino likes Hikki and hesitates, Yukino calmly diffuses the situation and encourages Yui. Yui knows that Yukino likes him but Yui will take him even if she knows it isn't fair. It is implied Yukino will only hide her feelings rather than stop having them. Yukino didn't make any proclamation she would help Yui out, she just gave her an assist.

>some shit like that because when someone says that they usually go back on it.
Moonland and her think that ANOTHER might be heading towards WA2 2.0: copyright infringement edition.
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>>141424329
LITERALLY WHO

People actually watch EVERY SoL? I'm fine with one or two..
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>>141446976
>yet to be decided
I'm sure Watari knows how he is going to end this, right????
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>>141447132

This isn't Nisekoi. WW has clearly had a plan in motion for this series since at least volume 6, probably earlier.
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>>141447181
Then why hasn't he released vol 12 yet? ANOTHER only gives Yui a good end and Yukino an "I'm okay" end.

>>141447250
8man should tap that and say that it is practice for Hayama.
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>>141447181
With each passing day I'm starting to believe that less and less.
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>>141447294

> Then why hasn't he released vol 12 yet?
Well, until a couple of months ago he was doing ANOTHER alongside it. Plus he is working on multiple non-Oregairu projects at the same time as well which dominate his twitter feed these days. It's also quite possible vol 12 will be a longer volume than normal for the series.

But really, I don't feel the wait has been that arduous. Maybe it's from having to put up with true epically slow writers like GRRM and Rothfuss.

>>141447299

What makes you think that? Please don't say the wait or ANOTHER, which is mostly just glorified fanservice to try and satisfy Yuifags.
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>>141447294
>Hachiman
>Even slightly wanting the most normal of normalfag characters
He'd sudoku first
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>>141447447
>which is mostly just glorified fanservice to try and satisfy Yuifags.
Why would WW feel the need to give them fanservice especially?

>>141447491
Pussy is pussy.
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>>141447524

> Why would WW feel the need to give them fanservice especially?
We might have to wait for vol 12 to find that out.
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>>141447447
Why do you keep making excuses for him?
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>>141447708

Excuses for what? You people should never read fantasy. Then you will learn what is to truly wait for a book to come out.

This roughly one year wait we've had so far is pathetically short. Wake me up if we don't have it this time next year and then I'll see cause for your wailing and gnashing of teeth.
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>>141447780
Watari should have finished this series first before doing other shit. You can't deny that. No one asked for another. We could have had a proper conclusion to the story months ago, but no. Feel free to keep defending the guy however.
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>>141447549
>We might have to wait for vol 12 to find that out.
Well yeah but I find it odd he went out of his way to make a heavily pro Yui end.
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>>141447849

> You can't deny that.

Purely in our interest? Sure it would have been better for him to write vol 12 immediately and not do anything else.

In his interest? It's a little different. It is to his advantage to squeeze as much as he can get from Oregairu before it's over.

We can not like it all we want, but it doesn't mean at all that he has no idea how he intends for it to end. He has already given us one ending to the series. There is no reason to think he doesn't know exactly what he wants the "real" ending to be. This wait is nowhere near long enough to start making that accusation. That's all I am saying.
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>>141424329
S1 all the way. S2 8man isn't as unattractive, and the girls are overcomplex.
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I watched this for the first time last week. I need more Iroha.
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What triggers Yuifags the hardest: Yukino's character song or the recipes?

I still don't get why the recipes trigger them.
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>>141448120

I think the recipes. They have mostly given up on attacking her character song since those came out.
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>>141448107
What's so great about her? I don't hate her but she just falls in love with the pretty boy like any other.
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>>141448120
>>141448164
They'll find something else, don't worry about it.
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>>141424329
If I removed 8man's ahoge, would he die?
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>>141448196
Nothing really.
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>>141448164
But what about the recipes pisses them off? Is it because it strongly implies Yukino likes 8man? Or is it because it proves Yui isn't a perfect, benevolent angel?

It shows that Yui at the end of the day would on Yukino just for 8man.
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>>141448120
I'm this guy >>141448120 what do you mean by recipes?
>>141448196
Her foxy look and the way she messes with 8man.
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>>141448314

> what do you mean by recipes?

They're in volume R. They take place at R's chocolate making event. They are basically memorandums from Yukino and Yui that describe their feelings in making the chocolates. I will post them, give me a minute.
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>>141424329
Sensei is best girl followed by Yui and blue ponytail
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>>141448310
Honestly speaking all is fair in love and war, especially for women if it's love they need to fight for their man which makes it hotter.
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Yukinoshita's recipe

Placing wheat flour, sugar and chocolate on the weighing scales.
Properly arranging all those that have been weighed.
To decide on the correct amount of time, to perfectly build up a list of established procedures.
In order for it to not go wrong, so that there will be no mistakes.
However, there is just one thing, there are lies mixed into it.
For what the truth is worth, there is a spoonful of lies.
As I baked them one by one, towards the weak looking portions, gracefully, without leaving a gap or an uneven surface, I coat it with a layer of bitter chocolate.
From the view here, the fine powdered sugar sparkled beautifully like snow.
The sugar falling down as I sprinkle them was just like the snow.
They could probably cover up and hide just about everything.
I think it's cowardly.
I'd probably even accepted this cowardly side of me already.
She is. My friend.
Knowing this and yet trying to hide it, I think I am probably trying to push my feelings of guilt onto her.
I am probably still clinging on to those sweet things.
However, because there are still things that I desire.
That's why, I will do the things that I can do.
I can only do it up till this point, the rest depends on you.
Telling her this, I turn around to face her.
And with that, I began to recall my initial conversation with her.
Just like that time too, it was just the two of us.
What kind of conversation it was, with the exception of the two of us, there was no one else, not even him, who knows it.
Yet, she was just like that time; I could see an uneasy expression on her.
To try and ease her uneasiness, I spoke to her in as gentle a tone as possible.
It's alright as long as you can smile even more brightly than during that time.
"The next time, the handmade cookies, we are going to give it right?"
Surely, this is the correct form.
Therefore, this is my recipe.
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Yui's recipe

Putting the sugar little by little with trembling hands.
Even if the product doesn't come out nicely, it's fine.
It would be the best if it could come out cutely though.
But, it probably won't end up being like that.
Because there's a lot of things mixed into it.
I tried to collect just the sweet things, just the cute things and only the things that you like.
Just as I thought, it can't be done.
Chiseling here, cutting there, an unevenness all around. Sweet and bitter.
I am not particularly smart or anything. I've probably always been this way.
That's why, there's no way I can do it perfectly.
I don't know what is "correct". It's definitely not the right way to do it however.
Therefore, I've always been putting in some sort of subtle seasoning that only I know.
So as to not let anyone know. So as to not let him know.
Milk and condensed milk. Also, a little of bitter coffee.
Towards that pure white cream, mixing a little of black bit by bit.
The original whiteness of it can no longer be restored.
No matter how diluted it is, how much I add, he will surely remember the bitterness.
It's unfair, for both me and her.
However, it's because of love that this unfairness even arose.
I want to keep loving you. Both me and my friend.
Calling out, looking up. My eyes catches hold of the serious expression and I flinch, just a little.
Just like that time, I wonder if it was done nicely.
Totally different from me, not one bit of me bears any resemblance.
That's why I am attracted to you and rapidly fall in love with you
At the very beginning when I first talked to you, I was so nervous that I could barely converse.
Probably, the same was true for the other as well.
Though I want to give a smile that was more earnest than always, I don't think I have the confidence to even smile like I usually do.
However, probably, the way in which both she and I smiled were likely to be the same.
"......Un. I will try to do it, my own way. Thank you."
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>>141448450

(cont)

Whether it's correct or not I do not know. However, this will be my recipe.
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>>141448314
Honestly speaking I think she better stop doing that with Hachiman because she is probably gonna get rejected again by the pretty boy because of that behaviour. Even worse she may fall in love with him which will make it even worse for her.
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>>141448583
I think so too. I don't want her to win anyway, why would I want the girl I like to date another guy?
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>>141448450
>>141448404
>>141448490
Thanks anon.
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My dear cunt-killer, where forth art thou?
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>>141448237
It would be extremely painful
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>>141424329
S2 really pissed me off. S1 had such a great look to it.
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>>141448310

Well if you remember when R came out, the very first spoilers we got were basically "perfect Yui end and everyone is happy".

I think some (not all) Yuifags had latched onto the idea that Yui would get her fairy tale "happy ending" in ANOTHER to compensate for an expected more painful outcome for her in the main story.

But the recipes pour cold water on the idea that ANOTHER is a perfect ending. It's so close to perfect, but a little bitterness is mixed in. Yukino just isn't quite alright with everything in ANOTHER. Unlike what some people say she's not in total meltdown, but there's a note of pain for her. And Yui is aware of it (but perhaps not the total depth of it).
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English Subbed OreGairu Fes, some funny moments in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znMFBQ89GWc
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>>141448775
He's a genuine guy
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>>141448237

It's like a horn. You think it's just solid stuff, but there's blood and cartilage in there.
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>>141449046

for you
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>>141448987
>4:51 onwards
She's great.
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>>141449338
Wow, shit taste.
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>>141430073
I need this in my life...
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>>141448987
holy cringe.
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>>141448841
>the very first spoilers we got were basically "perfect Yui end and everyone is happy".
People didn't think that WW would put a biter lining and just give a nice end. Yui always said she wasn't a nice girl but people refused to listen.

>compensate for an expected more painful outcome for her in the main story.
Some believe she is still going to win the main series.

> Unlike what some people say she's not in total meltdown
Yeah but some people think that it can lead to one due to her problems may be bigger than we think. But that is just a guess.
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>>141424329
I prefer the left, the newer art style is so generic.
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>>141448841
>Yui is aware of it
I think we are reading it wrong. Yui wouldn't leave Yukino to hurt just to get her Hikki. Even if she doesn't know the depth of Yukino's problems she knows it hurts to lose your crush to your best friend.
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>>141450396
>I think we are reading it wrong. Yui wouldn't leave Yukino to hurt just to get her Hikki
I'd say we are reading it correctly and that you simply don't want to accept it.
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>>141424329
S2 has better drawing, but S1 has better coloring.
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s1 had prettier eyes
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>>141450450
I think it makes her seem cruel and selfish. She would fuck over a friend just for some crush.
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Which YY would let 8man hold her hand and closed mouth kiss her?
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>>141451205
one of them may be an experienced kisser, and that wouldn't be Yui
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>>141451257
Practicing kissing on a certain Pan-san doll doesn't equate experience.
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Who is going to win the Yuibowl, Yukino or Hachiman? I don't know who would be better, but I think Hachiman would handle rejection better than Yukino.
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>>141436141
post it in the catalog when this thread goes down
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>>141451363
but practicing with her childhood friend does
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>>141452006
Yui isn't actually her childhood friend, although it does still count.
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Rumi still has a very nice hat to this day.
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>>141453959
because it looks like a primary school girl's hat in Japan?
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>>141448404
>>141448450
period blood chocolate pls
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>>141455728
I think any hat would look good on a primary school girl
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>>141455763
even a Murican baseball hat?
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>>141455728
It's more like one of those beanie hipster hats.
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>>141455845
i love Minami Chiaki's hat
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Just try to talk shit about this show.

Protip: you can't
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>>141455950
>Can't talk shit about this show
Oregairu more like BOREgairu
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>>141455950
no harem
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>>141455989
>>141456133
nice try baka
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>Senpai, where do you usually go?”
>“Home.”
>“Try again.”
>“R-Right…”
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Did girls other than Yui pronounce baka in a captivating way?
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i'm graduating high school tomorrow
I tried to act like 8 man all the time and chicks started to fall for me.
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Is YY's friendship over? Is there a way 8man could protect it?
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The ONLY thing that redeems S2 is Iroha.
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>>141431697
Hes supposed to be good looking except his eyes.
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>>141457427
Yes.
By removing himself.
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>>141457427
YY will go /u/, Hachiman will get hit by a car and die, and Iroha will go on to grow up to write a shitty light novel under a pseudonym.

This will all happen, my dad works for Kadokawa.
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>>141457745
This is true. As long as 8man is a thing he will come between them and stunt their growth.
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>>141457762
>Iroha was the author's true self insert all along
Bravo WW
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>>141424329
S2 had better production values by far, but Brain's Base's designs were "expressive".
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if anyone remembers or cares

Plus an Irohacolor.
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Which Oregairu would you like to become, except for Hachiman?
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>>141459425
Sakisaki because she's /fit/, has strong family values, and has a good work ethic.
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>>141441824
He'd end up looking like his dad.
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>>141457762
But the one that died was all just an elaborate ruse

Hachiman is still alive
Somewhere building his Outer Genuine
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>>141459425
Tobe so I can fuck Iroha
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S1 all the way

but I am probably biased cause i liked S1 more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A90toVPX-kk
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>>141459425
Yui. She has huge knockers to play with and I have always wondered how it felt to be in love with someone.
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>>141459425
Saika
i will transform from trap to carnivore-woman killer
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>>141444267
>コミック hachiman
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>>141451000

> some crush
Why would Yui prioritize Yukino's friendship over being with Hachiman? She has had feelings for Hachiman longer than she has ever known Yukino.
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>>141462502
She may value her friendship with Yukino more than romance with 8man and values Yukino's feelings. Time doesn't have anything to do with it. She values the club most of all.
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>>141463055

> She may value her friendship with Yukino more than romance with 8man

She obviously does not and it would have been a surprise if she did.

She cares about Yukino, but she wants the 8man more than anything.
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>>141463098
>it would have been a surprise if she did.
She seemed to really like Yukino. All 8man ever does for Yui is make her into a ball of emotions.

>She cares about Yukino, but she wants the 8man more than anything.
Then why did she make her proposal at the end of vol 11? She tried to do the best thing for Yukino and wasn't interested in succeeding.
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>>141463281

> wasn't interested in succeeding

She knew Hachiman and Yukino well enough to know that she wouldn't succeed. However, deep down, she would take it if it were possible.
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>>141463324
>However, deep down, she would take it if it were possible.
Why do you think that? That would be very selfish to want to be the only one happy. I don't think she wants Yukino to swallow her feelings, she gave Yukino every opportunity to try and confess.
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http://webm.land/w/pq1v/
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>>141451539
Yui is going to lose the lifebowl.
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>>141431038
until S2 came
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>>141464016
The fuck is this? Хуита какая-то.
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>>141424329
Yui - zoku
8man - season 1
Yukinon - season 2
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Yukino closing off her feelings and her problems limits her ability to get close to 8man and Yui. It may alienate her and cause her not to do anything about her main problem. I don't think that is a very good end for her so ANOTHER isn't her happy end like some anons claim.
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>>141467475
What will Yukino and Yui do when they find out 8man has knocked up most of Chiba, including their own kin? They seem ready to loose it just because Orimoto suggested giving him treats.
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>>141424329
Honestly, I didn't like season twos design. They look off...
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>>141468429
A shitton of back-alley abortions
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>>141463451

> That would be very selfish to want to be the only one happy.

When did I say she wants to be the only one happy? But if someone has to get hurt, she will take Yukino getting hurt over herself.

Why do Yuifags persist in placing her on some pedestal of perfection that turns her into a joke and a caricature? Hachiman revisits two things at the end of vol 11: That Yukino is a "strong girl" and Yui is a "nice girl". Both assertions are wrong.

Yui is not a nice girl. Repeat after me, Yuifag: "Yui is not a nice girl". Keep saying it until it finally gets through your thick skull.
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>>141424329
bodyless designs would have made a good anime
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>>141443306

They looked cute together and they have the most interesting relationship in my opinion.
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>>141471477

She's shit and is wholly incompatible with Hachiman. Her purpose in the story is long over.

Hopefully we've seen the end of her in vol 11. She said she'd give him some chocolates, but in the end she just asked him to come try some at the end of the event.
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>>141471591
You're hilarious anon!
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>>141470675
I don't even understand how the bulk of these threads always ends up being people arguing over characters being nice or not
none of the main characters are "nice", that's the whole fucking point even - the series hammers into the viewer's eyes with no subtlety that being nice gets you nowhere hence everyone having ulterior motives and schemes to almost everything they say to 8man
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>>141471894
ORIMOTO A CUTE!!!

A CUTE!

C
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T
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"Hikigaya, looks like the condom broke, hilarious"
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>>141471894
>>141472215

Since Orimoto was one of the key factors in Hachiman's pathos, particularly towards 'nice girls', when Yui loses the 8bowl she should track Orimoto down and disembowel her as painfully as possible.

Yui might not be a nice girl, but 8man thought she was at one point. If not for his trauma induced hangups, the two might have become a couple long ago.
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>>141472727
What if 8man ends up with one of her friends?
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i want to force feed orimoto Saize
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Who is the absolute best choice for 8man, regardless of likelihood?
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>>141473130
yukino
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>>141473130
>regardless of likelihood
Komachi
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>>141460148
From "8", Two Phantoms Were Born.
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>>141473130
Sensei
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>>141473216
anon said regardless of likelihood, not regardless of legality
anyway Komachi is in charge of managing the harem, these dumb bimbos can't do anything by themselves
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>>141473130
Sagami
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>>141424329
Cr-R's.
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>>141474431
What Doujin is that from /a/non?
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>>141424329
S1. no debate
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>>141473130
Sakisaki.
She's the only one I could see and ending with both of them happily married together until death break them apart. And maybe, just maybe, with her 8man could even hope to get on the house-husband route.
But really, she's the only one who's good enough as a woman, mother, housekeeper, the perfect wife.
And also isn't a slut (Iroha), isn't dumb/gullible (Yui), isn't a major pestering unsufferable bitch (Yukino), doesn't have friends/relatives/people who care more about her social status than her/them, and would give her/them shit (more or less all three of YYI), isn't an old hag full of dangerous addictions AND a few bad flaws (Shizuka), isn't a manipulative bitch (Haruno), and so on...
She's the most family oriented girl of the cast, and that's not a subjective matter.
She's undoubtedly interested in him, they both got "fans" or "helpers" ready to help them in their future relationship (2 sisters and 1 brother), and so on...
No really, what do you need anymore, 8man?
Too bad he doesn't really give a fuck about her, that means he doesn't fucking deserve such a perfect waifu. Whoever is gonna marry her, will be the true winner of Oregairu.
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>>141424329
>Which design do you prefer?
Who cares. R and volume 12 out now godfuckingdamnit.
Also I want a You ending because Yui best girl (Iroha close second) and it's the only way the problems of all three are gonna get solved.
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>>141474464
The last addition to Oregairu/Yahari, check sadpanda or similar. It's finally the full work, not a sample anymore.
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>>141473130
Yui and Iroha get the closest.
Yui because she's the one closest to understand what 8man actually means by genuine, and by character is by far the most equipped and willing to provide it to him.
Iroha because there's real attraction and they understand each other better than everyone else
The worst possible scenario would be Yukino, really. He's just gonna become her new Haruno, not solving either's problem, and she's always the one most at fault for fakeness. Not to mention she's spooked to shit, and they look more like they admire each other than they're in love.
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>>141424329
S1, not only because it was the first time I saw those characters, but also because they're too shiny, and glittering, and fabulous in S2, and I don't really like them there. Also, I think they're cuter in S1, because they're simpler. And simple equals cuteness, sometimes.
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>>141457556
Does anyone except for Hachiman himself, his doting sister and his husbando Saika ever say this?
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>>141474914
Only problem is her brother is possibly into Komachi. Is it weird to marry the sibling of your sibling's partner? Real question.
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>>141424329
I prefer s2.

>>141475298
The fact noone ever denies it when he says it is very telling. Also 8man is the monster of self-consciousness, he's not kidding himself.
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>>141475193
Wow, this is pathetic. Is this really what you got out of the series? So let's take a look at ANOTHER, Yui's route. The route where Hachiman gives up on wanting something genuine. How in the fuck do you come to this conclusion:

>Yui because she's the one closest to understand what 8man actually means by genuine, and by character is by far the most equipped and willing to provide it to him.

I'm not even going to touch on the other points because that is just wrong.
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>>141424329
Why is this even up for debate? S1 was agreed to be objectively superior.
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I'll always favour Ponkan8 aesthetic and I have to commend season one for at least trying to imitate Ponkan8 style.
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>>141475408
>I'm not even going to touch on the other points because that is just wrong.
You haven't touched any point at all actually, just said you disagreed.

And there's not much to say about it either: Yui is the only one who wants to keep smashing down walls to get at 8man, who is willing to hurt and be hurt to get at him and who wants him rather than need him. She's the one who is gonna go get Hachiman if he's not gonna come.
Yukinofaggotry is denial of all character development for the sake of fanservice and trite loner combination. Not to mention it would be as toxic a relationship as it gets.
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>>141474431
Cr-R is Ebina personified and given form in our reality.
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>>141475570
He is super inconsistent with his 8man. I have absolutely no clue why either.
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>>141443255
ANOTHER is separate universe with people weirdly out of character, I was only talking about main story
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>>141475193
I agree with this.
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>>141424329
So, what was the point of s2? The novel is like 2 volumes away from the end, so there won't be enough material for a third season. Is it just going to be left incompete? Will they make an OVA?
Shouldn't they just have waited for the end and made a final season? Or even better, rather than hurry through the novels 7-11 made s2 and s3 by fleshing out more the material?
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>>141476190
I assume an OVA is what they're going for yeah
like what happened wth School Rumble (but less disappointing this time, hopefully)
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>>141476190
No one would buy the LNs if the show had a conclusion
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>>141428382
Yukino looked horrible in S2.
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So what exactly is ANOTHER? Author made "fanfiction"? Is it supposed to be canon in any way?
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>>141447849
get real, plenty of great LN have 3 or 4 year gaps sometimes as author is on other projects. Watari is starting two more anime and one other LN that I know of. 1 year is nothing and at least we have OVA coming
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>>141475302
But Komachi doesn't seem into Taishi, as much as 8man himself isn't into Saki, just as I said. The Kawasakis are into the Hikigayas, but the Hikigayas don't really give a fuck about the Kawasakis.
Also, I know an old couple whose siblings also married eachother, and it worked fine for all 4 of them. But, it seems that all 4 of them were all friends from early childhood, so I can't say if that worked only because of that reason.
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>>141476354
I don't give a shit about an OVA. I want the end of the story. You need to get real, no one asked for this other garbage, people want the conclusion to the story so they can move on with their lives.
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>>141475302
>Is it weird to marry the sibling of your sibling's partner?
Not really. I could see it being weird if a total siscon and a total brocon end up together when the targets of their affection become a couple, but given a normal and healthy family relationship there'd be nothing weird about such a situation.
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>>141475759
Maybe her other works, but not
THIS ONE >>141474431
That's because it's basically trap on male, and Ebina/fujoshis in general don't really like traps, and even if they somewhat like 'em, they only put them in the uke role.
That's also the reason as to why I only like about only 10% of the stuff from this author, too much yaoi and not enough traps and futas.
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>>141474914
but that carving on railing when Hiratsuka talking to Hachiman, Kawaski loved and had her heart broken so might be unwilling in present to try again. Maybe someday she'll get a side story, I'd pair her with that strong silent big man in Hayama's clique Yamato
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>>141476417
>people want the conclusion to the story so they can move on with their lives
Actually I'd rather he does his extra shit rather than just mail in a shit ending just to end it.
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>>141476417
> I want the end of the story.
why are you complaining here? go write a letter to the author who hasn't written the ending yet
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>>141443255
More like she sees he's too much into Yui to try and get between them.
It's clear as fuck that she's a little romantically interested in him. Just a tiny little bit, but there's something.
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>>141476417
the Japanese don't have your problem of having patience of a three-year-old. They enjoy the live shows, radio shows, OVA etc. of oregairu. mellow out, watch other anime and read other LN/Manga. being obsessed with one isn't healthy
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>>141476525
0/10
This is old bait, senpai. Step up your game.
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>>141470675
I don't get why a Yuifag would think she's a "nice girl". Her whole appeal is that she's actually the one who likes 8man and wants to go and get him.
Her whole issue to be solved was putting others before herself, so necessarily her growth needs to be prioritizing what she wants over what Yukino needs.
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>>141459425
If I take on their character, then Komachi. If I keep my own character, Hayato.
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With all the shit WW talks about LN authors being poor and having unstable earnings, I have to wonder: how much dosh did he make out of the oregairu franchise? Is it known?
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>>141475617
True mate like they say All is fair in love and war.
I hate it when the girl who's trying her hardest for the guy doesn't get rewarded and instead the other girl that is hesitant and unwilling and just expects things to fall in place for her wins, it really ticks me off.
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>>141431145
rumi-rumi is such a sexual creature, that pose is just too much.
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>>141474431
Holy shit that was so fucked up. That was so gross, way too big for Totsuka.
And that's a pity, we don't see many trap on male stuff around, too bad the artist had to fucking ruin everything with that monster cock. Fuck her/him, it's okay to give the trap a big enough dick, but that was way overboard.
Gross, gross, gross.
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>>141476875
Not bait at all, having view focused on that writing for a time was not purposeless, in anime things are shown for a reason
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>>141477466
Well that's not really what I was trying to say tho. It's not like I wanna see Yui get her just deserts, it's just that it'd be totally out of character (or rather, a total denial of growth) for 8man to go for fakenoshita unless there's like 8 more novels worth of character development to go.
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>>141477722
Yukino has one and only one issue to solve; don't need 8 volumes just a change of heart which the ending of vol 11 /s2 may well be. Yui is the "fake", the one who values her superficial clique and who has to balance her friendship with them and the club sometimes causing issues.
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>>141477700
It's called filler, senpai. Just like the characters's songs.
Everybody AND THEIR MOTHERS knows that if something doesn't come from the primary source, whether it's manga, or LN, or VN, or whatever, it's to be considered filler.
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>>141476508
>too much yaoi and not enough traps and futas
You forgot the femdom stuff. Pic related.
Best club activities ever.
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>>141477972
Wrong not filler, had a purpose. that cost time and money to do and Watari had it done. You make things up in the world between your ears and imagine it's truth that "everyone and their mother knows" . You plus the voices in your head don't make a more weighty source
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>>141478018
that's against this board's rules; read them so you don't get banned
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>>141477823
Yukino's issue is that she's dependent on others. That's not gonna get solved quickly in any way that would be compatible with her ending up with 8man, because she's already showing signs that her affection is shifting Haruno's role onto 8man.
Yui's issue is that she puts others before herself. The literally perfect way to solve that is by her deciding take 8man for herself and fuck Yukino's needs and the riajuu's opinion (not that they'd care really).
Hachiman's issue is that he wants real, unadulterated relationships. Who's more likely to provide that, the girl with tons of side issues which may or may not be the reason she likes him or the girl who genuinely just wants him no strings attached?
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>>141478244
So Yui the girl that fell in love with Hachiman because he saved her dog is the genuine article then?
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>>141478321
Yes. If they endure the dog's death of age they're gonna be together forever.
Also you're being silly. There's literally a whole arc about how the accident was mere serendipity and in no way responsible for Yui's feelings.
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>>141478018
Jesus christ, what the fuck?

Sauce?
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>>141478466
The point to that arc was that even if the car accident hadn't happened, Yui would have been sent to the Service Club, where Hachiman would have helped her out and then she would have fallen for him. So a requirement for Yui to fall in love with Hachiman is him helping her out.
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>>141424329
Why is his hair green in S1 and blue in Zoku?
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>>141476508
It's Ebina's signature to make Hikigaya into an uke no matter what the circumstance.
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>>141478244
You are out of the story anon, Yukino feelings have not anythig to do with her family problems.
Yukino problem is that she is a bit coward and tend to hide her feelings instead of going for what she wants, but if you have read the end of vol 11 and her character song, that is going to change, she will pursue what she wants including 8man.
Yui is far from genuine just for the reason that she said herself that "she would be fine even with a lie".
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>>141476417
>being a whiny little shit
You make Yuifags almost tame and likable by comparison.
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>>141478843
When you say almost, you mean that Yuifags are still a little worse or impatient anon?
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>>141424329
I personally think s2 artstyle fits the more serious vibe of the anime. Can't say I have a favourite, though I do wish that one lock of hair on Hikki's head would go away - it's just irritating to look at and not very genuine.

Haven't caught up on the novel in ages, scared it'll turn out like another failure to rival Boku wa Tomodachi.
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I swear to god if both girls win and it ends up being a 3 way ending I will buy all the novels if they are localized and or buy the blue ray if it has the same ending. That would make the author fucking based as hell.
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>>141478983
Does it really need to be said?

YES
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>>141478244
Not quite, Yukino is carried along by expectations and desires of overpowering family instead of standing up for herself. That's the only "dependency" she has in not choosing her direction and going for her own desires. Part of doing so is about her future, part of doing so is going for the one she loves against family desires. She will be dependent on no one if she does that
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>>141461063
Another should've been about Yuigamama and Yukimom fighting over 8man
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>>141478785
>Yui is far from genuine just for the reason that she said herself that "she would be fine even with a lie".
All three of them are far from being genuine, especially Hachiman. Their whole growth is predicated upon overcoming that.

>>141479215
>That's the only "dependency" she has in not choosing her direction and going for her own desires.
The feeling I get from reading is actually the opposite: she literally lets anyone leads her around, in spite of what she wants. Yui basically has her on a leash, and she is unable to go stand up to 8man and actually all too willing to follow his lead in spite of disliking the direction.
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>>141479496
>and she is unable to go stand up to 8man and actually all too willing to follow his lead in spite of disliking the direction.
That only happens after Hachiman crushed her self-confidence during the events of volume 8.
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>>141479572
No it happens from the beginning all the way to volume 11. It's literally a recurring plot point until the genuine speech, and it keeps happening till the last pages where you have Yukino repeat verbatim 8man's words to Haruno. The girl got issues, and 8man/Yui enable her by their very presence. Which is why he wants them to stay the fuck out of her business.
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>>141479857
It has become very clear that you have no idea what you're talking about. The light novels go out of their way to show how after Hachiman stopped Yukino from becoming student council president, Yukino has lost her "edge"/self-confidence.
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>>141480401
She never had any edge nor self confidence. That's the whole point of "Yukinoshita is not a strong girl". She was unable to stand up to hachiman before the elections too. Hell she was unable to stand up to festival girl.
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>>141480553
How she able to stand up to Miura then? Or to her sister on several ocassions in the series?
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>>141480747
She only ever talks back. She never does anything. It's literally what makes Haruno keep harassing her. Talk is cheap anon.
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>>141480971
Ah, so you have no ground to stand on and are bowing out. Noice.
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>>141481054
Ah so you have no answer so you pretend you won. Disappointing.
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>>141479496
I agree with you, that is part of the "no direction and not standing up for herself" problem that she just goes with the flow in all parts of her life including Yui and Hachiman. But that's stilll just a symptom of one core issue of needing to take charge of her life. As Haruno said with her "tough love" 'do you even have a self?'
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>>141480401
Hachiman didn't stop her, his this with Iroha was just nomination not election. Yukino folded, caved in when she could have still run and likely won since not even a third of student body would have supported Iroha as most the 1/3 nominations were fake
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Yahallo
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>>141481350
Hachiman deceived Yukino and Yui there. Hachiman manipulated Iroha into wanting to become student council president, so he took away Yukino's reason to act.
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>>141480747
Yukino only goaded Yumiko with her words, in LN she make Yumiko physically attack her so she could block and hold her arm while grinning maliciously at her. Yukino can stand against bullies, but not against family, expectations, the flow; she just lets those things happen.

She doesn't stand against sister at all, just acts alienated and spiteful
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>>141481455
Yukino could still have run if she really wanted it. but she gave up. Hachiman only claimed to have enough signatures, one third the student body, in social media for nomination that's all. Those were not votes, that was not the election. Yukino wimped out
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>>141481455
Fucking 8man. He somehow brainwashed poor Yukino into not wanting the presidency. Then I guess all that skin crawling later on must have just been the ol' monthlies acting up.
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>>141481455

Indeed, Yukino will act to help others, but not for herself. She wants to help Iroha and she wants to stop Hachiman from debasing himself again. That, along with Haruno calling her out on it when she attempts to use Hayama instead of herself, is what convinces her to run. Hachiman's actions take away both motivations for her, leaving her back to her cowardly indecisive self, which quickly folds.
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>>141481457
Yukino stood up to Haruno in volume 6.
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>>141481776
Yukino is only a coward when it comes to dealing with her newfound emotions for Hachiman or dealing with her family and her future.
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>>141482023

You could summarize it generally as cowardly when it comes to "what she wants", which encompasses all those things you stated and more. There is no need to try to split hairs on it.
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>>141482078
>>141482023

More accurately, "what she wants for herself",.
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>>141482078
If Yukino wants to defend Yui and Hachiman, then she has no problem doing that, among doing other things. There is a good reason to split hairs.
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>>141482126
see
>>141482118

A little hair splitting maybe, but not too much.
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>>141481963
howso, when Haruno upped the pressure on her talking Sagami it was ok to go from claass to class instead of focusing on leading committee? The only thing I remember is Yukino telling her to "just go home" when Haruno was flirting with Hachiman.
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>>141482364

She gets Haruno to help her with the music number to buy time for Hachiman to find Sagami. Haruno obstinately refuses and says, basically, "What can you do to make me?" to which Yukino replies "I will be in your debt. Read into that what you will." Haruno is clearly impressed with that answer and helps her.
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I want to get into this series. LN or anime? I'm assuming the manga is pointless.
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>>141482486
asking for help, or making a deal for help, is not "standing up to her". Standing up for herself would be Yukino wanting something and going against those, or perhaps negotiating and compromising, who tried to make her do something else.
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>>141482506
yes to ask for help. but Yukino was not going against anyone who had contrary wishes to something she wanted, not "standing up for herself" just making a deal for help. In this case filling in while people try to locate Sagami for whom Yukino is being doormat
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>>141482548
anime is fastest way to see if it's what you like. That said, you have to judge S1 and S2 separately, S1 is more humor and entertainment, S2 is about serious topics
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>>141482616
>>141482664
But Yukino did negotiate with Haruno during that scene. That's the entire point.
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>>141482716
Yukino only helping the festival schedule there, she's not going for anything of benefit to her personally at all but just indirect way of helping others. Asking for help for benefit of others isn't going against someone for her own desires or dreams or future. She has massive hangup in doing that, has never done it
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>>141482616
She was standing up to her herself considering in the LN 8man wanted to intervene to help Yukino but was stopped by her.
In the Anime it was Yui trying to step in instead but stopped by 8man.
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>>141482616

> perhaps negotiating and compromising

That's exactly what she did with Haruno. You say "making a deal to help" isn't standing up to her, but then negotiating a deal is?
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>>141482847
What the fuck does that have to do with anything. Why does everything have to benefit Yukino personally for it to count? Yukino stood up against Haruno in that moment in time. Some anon made a point that Yukino never stood up to Haruno and this scene proves that wrong.
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Yukino is not hard to understand. She is unable to assert herself into chasing after what she personally wants. She is willing to help others, but throughout the series "helping others" becomes an excuse she uses to actually go for what she desires for herself.

It was the case with Sagami in the Festival arc. Yukino wanted to run it, but couldn't do it because if it's just for her, she'll never act. Sagami gave her an excuse, so she acted.

It happened again in the Student Council arc. Iroha gave her an excuse and wanting to stop Hachiman from delivering that rotten speech gave her another incentive.

You could argue the same is true for 'genuine'. Hachiman wants it, Yukino resolutely pledges to fulfill his wish for it. But as her character song shows, she also wants it as well.

The student council arc was arguably her high water mark in terms of asserting what she wants, but even then it was all under the guise of helping someone else (Sagami). Haruno recognizes that Yukino is showing an impressive side towards the end of that arc. But it doesn't last.
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>>141483361
It only doesn't last because Hachiman destroyed her self-confidence in volume 8. Which was the initial point that was brought up.
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>>141483451

He did, but you can't blame him. Because he didn't know. Because she never said anything. As the chapter title states,

> Silently, Yukinoshita Yukino makes her decision.

Ultimately it was her fault she got hurt.
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Yukinofags fail to realize that 8man is not something she wants . She isn't interested in romance with him.
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>>141483579
No, that's not what the title refers to. The decision Yukino makes is to do whatever it takes to stop Hachiman from hurting himself.
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>>141483708

No, that IS what it's referring to. And it comes up again in vol 9 when Yui points out to Yukino that she never told them about what she wanted and people will never know if she doesn't tell them.

I agree that wanting to help Hachiman was an underlying motive for Yukino, but she never communicated that. Or the fact that she wanted StuCo president for herself as well. She never communicated anything. She made her underlying motives a secret then got upset when others didn't understand.

Yukino projects her expectations onto people and then judges them for it. Remember "help me, someday"? Remember what Hachiman remarked right after it

> That may have been, I think, the very first wish that Yukinoshita Yukino had ever uttered.

She almost certainly never asked Hayama to help her in the past which he failed to do. She just expected it of him like she just expected things from Haruno as well. That's what made her wish so significant in vol 9. She stepped across that silent distance and communicated her expectations to him.

This all used to be well understood. Why have people forgotten about it?
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>>141483579
>He did, but you can't blame him. Because he didn't know
You can blame him, because he didn't care.
Watari himself states that even if Yukino had told him the truth, of she had told him that she truly desired it Hachiman would have still done the same thing.

It's also why when Meguri tells him what she wanted to happen and 8man asks himself if he could go back to make a different choice that he wouldn't have changed a thing.
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Does Sensei make an appearance in Volume R?
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>>141483932
It's not so much that he didn't care, it's more of a "what's done is done, no use in crying over spilt milk" type of thing. He approached it wrongly, he fucked up and now what's done is done.
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>>141483932

Hachiman himself alludes to that in vol 9. He states that he always looks into people's words, tries to find the hidden meaning, and therefore he'd get it wrong anyway.

But there's an element of assumption there.
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>>141484021
>It's not so much that he didn't care
Considering Watari went out of his way to say that even if Yukino had told him the truth Hachiman wouldn't have done things differently it is that.

8man doesn't want her away from the club.
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Hachiman (Volume 9):
>That’s why when Yukinoshita said she was going to run as a candidate, even if she had said it out of instinct, I probably wouldn’t have taken the meaning of those words as they were. I would think there were other factors involved and try to dig out the real intent behind them only to be mistaken in the end. People see only what they want to see as well as hear only what they want to hear. I was no exception.

Watari’s thoughts:
>Up until now, Hachiman has always been using his own logic as a way to make a conjecture about the feelings of others. That’s just how he calculates things. But, feelings are neither logical nor rational. He knows those feelings, but at the same time is mortified by them. Because of Hachiman’s experiences, he is very sensitive towards negative feelings, and so liable to hypersensitivity. This is why he is always skeptical with respect to any positive feelings. Because of this, as a kind of defense, he always has the habit of taking those positive
feelings and ascribing them to his own scale. Such thinking is not easily altered just by a few words from anyone.

It wouldn't have mattered what Yukino or anyone elese told Hachiman, he would have twisted it into something entirely different.
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>>141484231

I think it's more likely WW was referring to this >>141484045

It's not that Hachiman "doesn't care". It's just that Hachiman twists and over-analyzes things to the point of getting it wrong.
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>>141484231
Sure, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't care. In fact he cares too much, mostly like you said, about keeping Yukino in the club. He just went about it in the wrong way.
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Why did sensei start the club?
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>>141484257

Well I agree with all that.

That being said Yukino still should have told him and she's at fault for staying silent and not doing. Although God's PoV (WW's) tells it would not have made a difference, Yukino doesn't know that. And ultimately neither does Hachiman since he can only go by his assumptions.

In the end, what Yui said is true. You have to communicate through things. Even if you get things wrong, struggle and stumble en route, you will eventually understand. But that understanding doesn't just come gift wrapped from heaven.
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>8man thinks Yui is a nice girl
>8man thinks Yukino is a strong girl
>8man thinks Yui and Yukino are super good friends
Is he ever right?
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>>141485023
Potential marriage partners
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>>141485023

She uses the club like a spider web to catch cute loner boys so she can steal their purity. Hachiman wasn't the first and he won't be the last.
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>>141485101

> Is he ever right?

Nope.
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>>141485128
Nope, she wants him to marry her and bear his children
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>>141485181

She won't marry him. In fact she will lose all interest after he hits 20 or so.

She only like the cute young boys because they remind her of that boy she never gave the love letter to when she was in high school. She is banging that boy vicariously through all her teenage conquests.

I mean that's why she became a teacher to begin with.
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>>141485235
Considering that she is more desperate for marriage, and 8man just wants to be a house-husband, I doubt it.

And besides, 8man has got his 8inch, when Sensei get's the 8inch, she will never let go of 8man no matter what.
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>>141485023
you know how we have containment boards here

same thing
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It's obvious what 8man needs to do with YY. Just have sex with both of them, then when they find out, tell each that the other one manipulated him into it, he is terribly sorry, and he will only ever love that girl.

That'll get them to kill each other then he can just go pick up Saki and have it done.
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>>141486438
>he can just go pick up Saki and have it done.
why would he go and pick up a literal who?
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>>141486518

Because she's the hottest.
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>>141486438
If he did that do you really think YYandere wouldn't send him on a nce boat?
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>>141486633

>If he did that do you really think YYandere wouldn't send him on a nce boat?
I think he could escape the boat. Assuming he arranged to have law enforcement there ASAP to arrest the survivor and lock her away for a good long while.
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Yui supplies the MAX COFFEE now. It is a girlfriend's right to give her lover MAX COFFEE.
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>>141478018
Oh boy muh blue board
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>>141424329

The one where it's drawn by a designer who isn't garbage.

Even the Idolmaster anime character designs look better than this shit

Get someone like Kantoku, Peko, or Noiji Itou
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>>141424329
>Oregiaru Zoku
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>>141486841
>survivor
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>>141470675
Yui has only been presented as the paragon of niceness by 8man. Is it really a shock to people that Yui would walk all over other people just to get with 8man? I was never in doubt and I thought most people knew that Yui mostly cares about 8man at the end of the day.
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Got me thinking, if Yui is willing to step on her precious friend's heart for 8man what would she do to a girl who isn't that close to Yui that liked 8man?
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>>141488913

Not sure but Iroha should probably sleep with a knife under her pillow.
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>>141486633
>implying Komachi wouldn't slaughter them all back
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>>141482947
you are the one that is wrong, asking for help being a drummer in filler band act is not standing up. Yukino has never stood up for herself against anyone, ever
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>>141489031
Harming Komachi is out of the question for anyone trying to win 8man over, honestly
Saika too, probably
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>>141488975
both Yui and Yukino think of Iroha as cute little Kohai, they'll never see her coming
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>>141489042

Have you actually read the scene in the LN? I don't think you have or you wouldn't be peddling this nonsense.
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>>141489114
Too bad that Yukino alone scares the shit out of her, and Yui is the only one Iroha is weary of.
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>>141489373
Well luck for Iroha she likes Hayama and both YY don't give a damn.
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>All this talk about ANOTHER R's ending and whatnot
>Still no translation

I ain't gonna buy any of your bullshit, my negroes
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Surprise Harunon.
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>>141489482

But you'd buy the bullshit if it's given to you in the form of a translation?

How will you even know that's right?
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>>141442518
Reminder that s1 art was uneven, sometimes Yukino had proper dainty slender fingers, and other times these blacksmith's beefy mitts
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>>141489525
It'd be indeed more believable, because not even the most dedicated troll would bother making up 300~ pages of bullshit. Not to mention it has to be very high quality bullshit for people to actually fall for it.

For example haganai's ending never got translated and even to this day there are still so many contradicting spoilers every time people discuss it.
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>>141489519
"you're too good for Yukino-chan, Hikigaya-kun. Just pull on this silk tie."
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>>141489702

You don't need 300 pages of bullshit. Just 299 accurate pages and 1 page of bullshit would cover it, mostly.
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>>141448987
Jesus, Komachi's VA is a fucking womanlet.

And that's a beautiful thing
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>>141489867
and very artistic.

also, was that implied lesbo attraction stuff with Iroha's VA real?
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>>141490071

I don't think there's anything "real" about these VA events.
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Hachiman worries about Yukino constantly. Yui? pffftttt....
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Iroha will never wait for you with a heavy bag she knows she can just hand to you
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>>141448987
That line would have been too cool for Hachiman.
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>>141475440
thumbnail always looks like yukino has nekomimi
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>>141490193
It's an actor's job to pretend.
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>>141424329
the middle one has the best design by far

but they really were sloppy, they fucked up eye layering on every single one
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>>141490424
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'Ok Yui, you can do this, just confess your feelings to Hikki, and everything will be fine'
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>>141490591

> start to confess
> cell phone rings
> 8man: I think you better answer that
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>>141424329
1 > 2
1 > 2
2 = 1
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>>141424661
I like the new chick they added though
I don't want her to win or anything but she's cute
>>141426520
This one
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>>141431145
Sensei a best
I want to date Sensei and bitch about second hand smoke
I want her to be possessive and keep texting me non-stop
I want to get Sensei flustered with out of nowhere compliments.
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S1
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>>141490397
8man should pin Yui down and have his way with her without her consent.
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>>141496514
>implying it wouldn't be Yui pulling the White Album 2 on Hachiman
He won't be able to stand when she's done with him.
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>>141490424
they are *voice* actors/actresses

>getting physical
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>>141497110
Method acting.
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>>141497244
So Yui x Iroha end confirmed?
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>>141497279
Yes
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>>141424754
The thread should have ended as this post, it's objectively correct.
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>>141448987
>the introductions with them calling the audience loners
Are they even allowed to do these things to the fragile otaku hearts?
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>>141490071
Who wouldn't want to be with this cutie patootie?
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>>141496863
So you think Yui would want her Hikki in every way? I bet she has built up some frustration she wants to grind into her pelvis.
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>>141497520
Otaku know they're weird outcasts that have built a community off of a weirder hobby. Pretty sure they generally have good humor about these types of things.
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8man should deep kiss one YY in front of the other. It would be funny to see one be a bit flustered and the other one a bit pissed.
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>>141490591
how can one girl be so cute and adoring
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Alright guys enough of this reading in to deep crap and shipping wars time for serious talk, ready?

>What would be worse ending?
For me worst would be that, this was a great experience in High school and they will remember it and treasure it for the rest of their lives. I swear if this happens I will hit my head until I forget about the series.

>What would be best ending?
Besides a Harem ending probably him choosing Yui cause yeah im a Yuifag.

>What would be meh/I don't care ending?
Him choosing Yukinon or even Iroha, would rather want Iroha in all honesty. Just dont want a cliche ending have guts and choose a girl.
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Do Yukinofags feel vindicated that Yukino likes 8man in ANOTHER despite not being dependent on him in any way and him not trying to cross the bridge for her?
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>>141500752
It's always interesting to see that Yuifags have rather bad grammar and punctuation.
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>>141500885
No. Yukinofags never doubted this. It's always other anons that tried to push that notion.
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>>141500982
its Friday and I'm drunk go be a grammer nazi somewhere else.
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>>141500752
I want Yui to win badly. I am glad she on ANOTHER in such a sweet manner but I still want her to win in the main series. I think she is done playing little miss nice girl and is ready to fight for her Hikki.

I would prefer Yukino winning over Iroha winning. Mainly because if WW isn't going to make Yukino win he should give it to Yui and him giving it to a side girl would feel cheap plus Irohafags are extremely annoying so I would rather not have them gloat forever make these thread unbearable.

1. Yui
2. Yui bitter
3. Harem
4. Frendship
5. Yukino
6. Loner
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>>141501097
Yeah but it is as solid proof as you can get that her feelings for him are real and not based off of dependency or flags.
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>>141501130
I'm just saying that it's interesting.
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>>141448404
>>141448450
>>141448490
Are these meme status yet? I feel that we can throw them out like the character songs.
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>>141500752
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Does Sensei show up in volume R? Does she give Hachiman a speech? If not, then not even Sensei supports the Hachiman Yui pairing.
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>>141501268
Don't do this to me anon especially when I'm drunk. My emotions get kind wacky.
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>>141501268
WA2 won't happen in the main series. Things will go well.

>>141501195
Yuifags may not have perfect grammar but at least they aren't asshurt shitposters.
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How does Yukino plan to steal Hikigaya-kun from his lover?
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>>141501493
No need to be so defensive. Also the main series will most certainly not have a good ending for at least one character.
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>>141501550
I was implying that ANOTHER will have a WA2 development and that the main series will be different.

> most certainly not have a good ending for at least one character.
Well no shit. It is a lover triangle.
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>>141501584
But you said
>things will go well
In what way?
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>>141500752
>What would be worse ending?
Basically the same as you said. They all go their own ways having solved none of their bullshit problems.

>What would be best ending?
Sensei end.

>What would be meh/I don't care ending?
Either YY winning.
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>>141501625
I think at the end of the day they will come together thanks to the bond they have built. Even if they hurt eachother and one girl gets especially hurt they can build better bonds from the ashes. Yui and Yukino need to settle the 8man issue if they ever intend on being true friends.
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>>141501697
Oh, yeah, that;s not going to happen.
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>>141501734
Why not? Let's make the assumption that Yukino wins the Hikkibowl as our example. Yui will be devastated but she has seen it coming for a while now and she promised to not abandon Yukino out of jealousy. Yui still cherishes the club and even though romance with 8man is the most important thing it isn't the only thing. Yukino doesn't want a lose a friend and 8man doesn't want Yui to leave either, Yui is not going to stop caring about them. Maybe Yui doesn't show up for a week or two but in a few months they will be fine.

In ANOTHER Yukino helps Yui win the Hikkidowl and the club is fine. Yukino and Yui are still good friends.
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>>141501859
>Yui will be devastated but she has seen it coming for a while now and she promised to not abandon Yukino out of jealousy

The only reason Yui was able to promise that is because she was fully convinced that there was nothing going on between Hachiman and Yukino.
http://imgur.com/a/cnokz

Yui has been in it for Hachiman since day one. In ANOTHER she gets that, in the main series she won't. One of the other differences will be that Yukino can stay friends with Yui even if she doesn't end up with Hachiman, but Yui can't.
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>>141501918
>The only reason Yui was able to promise that is because she was fully convinced that there was nothing going on between Hachiman and Yukino.
It has meaning in a symbolic sense. It is something that has been said and it will be addressed somehow. We are reading story so even if it matters what she thinks they will never date we can't discount the fat she said it. She will either abandon Yukino proving that statement to be false or she will rise up for her. Yui wants to solve her request at the end of vol 11.

Also she left them last time not because she thought they were dating but because 8man made her cry and hurt her because he told her to stop being nice to him. Both issues were patched up at the same time.

>Yui has been in it for Hachiman since day one.
He is very important to her but she has been shown to value other things. To Yui the club has meaning outside of being the room 8man is in after school.

>One of the other differences will be that Yukino can stay friends with Yui even if she doesn't end up with Hachiman, but Yui can't.
Yui can. Yui helped Yukino as much as she could. Yukino doesn't like him much to begin with so losing 8man isn't much of an issue to her.
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>>141502114
Yui isn't a nice girl and being Hikki's woman has been her most important thing. This has never been doubted because it hasn't been implied to be wrong. Yui is done with 8man and Yukino the second he picks Yukino.
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>>141502685
Just like how Haruno and Sensei are done with Hachiman the second he picks Yui.

P O T T E R Y
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>>141501549
why is your filename a sword?
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So are we just going to ignore the Jojo references in the series?
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>>141503115
It's just one reference, from what I remember and it doesn't impact anything really, so who cares. There's tons of references in Yahari, I don't see why the Jojo references are anything special.
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>>141503178
I think there have been a couple other references. Too lazy to look them up.
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is it true that hachiman is into idolshit
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Yukino should drop 8man and not pursue him. He is a good fit for Yui and they have mutual feelings. Yukino is smart, pretty and rich so a gut who is smart, handsome, and rich like Hayama fits her plus her family wouldn't oppose that.
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>>141504047
Hayama is too shallow, and needs to be brought down then built back up. What he needs is somebody below him on the social ladder, and yet somebody he'd look up to as his savior. Genuine etc
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>>141504149
Hayama is not gay. The point is Yukino should find a better guy than 8man and leave him to be happy with his Yui.
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>>141504047
Hachiman and Yui have absolutrly nothing in common. As soon as they have their first conversation about literally anything in another, they'll realize that there's nothing there.
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>>141504221
I didn't mean to imply Hachiman, but seriously, if Hayama and Yukino get together, it would basically make both of their character arcs pointless. Even Hayama and Yui would make a better arc for Hayama.
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>>141504288
>Even Hayama and Yui would make a better arc for Hayama.
Yui only wants her Hikki though. You can't just change who you love on a dime.

> it would basically make both of their character arcs pointless
They both find love that was always there.

>>141504279
Is there is a will there is a way.
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>>141504356
Yuipollfag at it again.
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ANOTHER sort of kills the theory that Yukino likes Hayama. I don't think Hayama likes Yukino but I doubt she likes him.
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>>141504425
Yuipollfag at it again.
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>>141504443
But I am not Yuipollfag. I don't think Yui will win and I don't think Yukino likes Hayama so therefore I can't be him.
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>>141504279
It's hard to judge this. I don't want to resort to blogshit, but I think that they still have a chance, even if there's not much in common.

As long as they don't have fundamental disagreements that just cannot be resolved, I think their relationship can thrive.

>>141504356
That was just an example. Honestly, I just do not see Hayama and Yukino working precisely because it's ~so perfect~. Think of the name of the story even, My Romantic Comedy is Wrong as Expected.

For a secondary protagonist to just end up shoehorned into a relationship that was planned for her for X amount of time, I don't see it happening.

Perhaps if both characters receive significant development - to the point of being destroyed at the foundation and rebuilt, it can happen, but that's not there.

I don't know if these two are a couple that you like, or you just want to push Yukino away so that Hikki can be with Yui happily, but you have to accept something.

Somebody's smile will not be protected.

Now, I love Yui. I want Yui to win the most.

I also like Yukino. I wouldn't burn merchandise if she, or Iroha, or Sensei, or whoever it is won. I don't want to see any of them cry.

But it will happen, somebody will lose, and that is how things will be.

If you want to think about this, think about actually solving this problem, and not just pushing characters together because it is convenient.
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>>141504528
>Somebody's smile will not be protected.
I know it in my mind but my heart doesn't believe that.

>If you want to think about this, think about actually solving this problem
The more I think the more I think about disaster.
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>>141504528
>But it will happen, somebody will lose
Just because someone loses that doesn't mean it has to hurt. Yukino is completely fine on the outside in ANOTHER.
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>>141504585
I don't know how well Yukino can take rejection. Visibly, she will be fine. But on the inside, there will be nothing left. The two people she opened her heart to, and this is what she got out of it.

Yui, Yui will cry. It will break my heart to see her cry. But at the end of the day, I think she will take it better than Yukino.

This all almost makes me want an Iroha win just so that both YY can still lean on each other for support. If somebody went and claimed Hachiman right now, this is the only way I see that won't leave somebody broken.

However, the story is still developing. Perhaps newer novels will set somebody up to be stronger, more capable of standing on their own.

>>141504690
It depends on how it is handled, of course. I have not read ANOTHER, but Hachiman and Yui getting together would leave a different impact on Yukino if they did it earlier than Hachiman and Yui getting together right after Genuine 2.0. Same applies to behavior. In the main story, anything goes. If in ANOTHER there are clear signs where Hachiman is gravitating, Yukino will have time to adapt - her world will be changing, but won't be falling apart at the seams.
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>>141504755
ANOTHER sort of implies that Yukino is going to keep her feelings to herself and never let the other two know that she has issues. I think that is more hurtful than getting rejected.
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>>141504870
It depends on how strong the feelings are. A small crush might be better off suppressed, but keeping inside Genuine 2.0 level things is a fast way to White Album 2 your entire life.
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>>141504955
I think the implication she is closing herself off is the worst thing. The romance aspect isn't that important, it is the fact that she is shutting off. It think both Yui and Yukino are best off in the long run with honest feelings and honest rejection.
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>>141505053
It's not that bad. Hachiman turned his back on wanting something genuine first. Yukino is simply going along with what Hachiman and Yui want.
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>>141505109
Yeah but she created a wall between her and them and is on the road to making it permanent. What they want is not what is best for her.
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>>141505158
>There is something that I want. I don’t need anything else other than that. All I want is just that alone. However, the circumstances that I place myself in does not allow me to obtain it. Still, all I did was allow myself to be lost in the conclusions laid down by others. Really, I have noticed this since a long time ago. Things that are lost will definitely not become beautiful memories. I know that if you do not stretch out your hand to grasp it, you will regret it your entire life. That’s why, there is something that I want. Yet, the things that you can obtain with your own two hands are always so shallow and vague. I simply cannot have faith in such things. More than that, there is the fact that the most unreliable existence of all is ourselves. Hence, the wish that our relationships would grow deeper would surely not come true as well. Naturally, since some time back, at some place, where both sentimentality and resignation were mixed together, I had since taken a step back and drew a line between us. However this cannot continue on for long. I have always known that this would all fall apart sooner or later. Though I knew this, I have been averting my eyes from it. The circumstances that he and I were in were different, except for maybe just that one point, where he and I held the same worries. No, that’s not it. It’s not just the circumstances alone. Just about everything else was different. Yet, why is it that the both of us would arrive at the same conclusion? Even so however, the answer that he gave me probably wasn’t the only one he prepared. That’s why, when I decided not to raise the question explicitly, we both pretended to not see it at all. I do not want to acknowledge the uncomfortable truth. What is lost will never come back. I don’t want to have any expectations. That’s why I avoided the issue. Actually, maybe, I don’t want it after all.
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>>141505158
>>141505216
Hachiman created that wall between them first, by deciding that he doesn't want long meanigful relationships. He gives up on wanting to know the girls better in ANOTHER and he simply goes for Yui. That's the entire point to ANOTHER and Yui as a character, they're not the genuine one.
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>>141505216
>>141505237
Yukino actively made the choice to support Yui with a cowardly action. She is the one who wants to hide her imperfections in snow.

All 8man ever did was pay more attention to Yui and blew off genuine.
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>>141505318
>Yet, the things that you can obtain with your own two hands are always so shallow and vague
>Hence, the wish that our relationships would grow deeper would surely not come true as well

This is the point to ANOTHER. Hachiman doesn't want long lasting meaningful relationships, he goes for Yui. Yukino simply supports them.
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>>141505463
What if he still goes for Yui in vol 12? The key to ANOTHER isn't the girl he wants.
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>>141505492
Yeah that's not happening.
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>>141505513
It might. We know she wants it. I don't think this story has much all to do with which one he wants to bang the most. Pursuit of genuine is the main thing.
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>>141505548
>Pursuit of genuine is the main thing.
Sure and as ANOTHER has illustrated, Yui is not the road to genuine.
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>>141505570
Yui is the road to Yui, ANOTHER is a not genuine road. The main series might have a road with Yui.
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>>141505607
I understand that you're a Yui fan, but Yui's purpose in the story is to be the fake one.
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>>141505630
Her purpose was to be the glue that held the three together and the main romantic interest for 7 volumes.
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>>141505664
Sure, but also to be the opposite coin of what genuine is.
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>>141505684
He can have Yui and genuine, these don't contradict. Yukino isn't genuine either, she has been running away from her feelings.
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>>141505714
He has Yui in another and guess what, it's not genuine. So Yui and genuine don't go hand in hand together.
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This is why there never should have been an AU. All it did was delay the main series even further and cause a bunch of shit flinging.

If Watari had any respect for his readers he would have stuck to his guns and given us the ending. No consolation prizes, no half hearted decisions. Just a clear concrete ending, the one he wanted to tell.
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>>141505757
Yep. That's my problem as well. Now we all have to endure months of shitposting until we get the actual ending and see how all of it makes sense.
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>>141505757
Watari pretty much gave his entire fanbase a giant middlefinger with a please buy more of my products sign attached to it.
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>>141505749
She genuinely loves him and he is willing to explore. There is nothing wrong with that.

>So Yui and genuine don't go hand in hand together.
Maybe in this instance.
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>>141505871
Man, you really can't accept that Yui is not the genuine one.
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I like Yui because she has a nice rack and is cute. I don't like Yukino because she has no tits and I don't find her cute.
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>>141505942
Kind of expected of Yuifags.
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>>141505926
Not until WW writes it.
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>>141506088
But he has included so many clues in the series that point out that's the case.
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