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What is the point of this show?
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>>141417125
Being intelligent and deep.
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Gotta balance out Luluco with something not fun.
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Kokoro Connect without best girl
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to usher in the end of Okada's career
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>>141417125
To make fun of Okada
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Cute girls being cute
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>>141417125
Watching notEsdeath.
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>>141417125
watching the interpersonal relations of the 7 retards while trying not to want to kill MC for being such a faggot

NOT KAMINA is best character.

and there is also the reverse rape scene
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What is the point of any anime?
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>>141418399
Picked up.
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>>141418461
your loss...
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>>141418568
>..
Fuck off.
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>>141417125
Having the cast experiences childhood friend pain and suffering.
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>>141417642
Chidori is easily the cutest girl of the season.
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>>141418439
1 - money
2 - humoring animators
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>>141417125
Enjoying the best animation, art and direction this season has to offer
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>>141418649
of the year
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>>141418399
tumblr pls go
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>>141418399

What I wouldn't do to be raped by Maki.
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>>141418741
>tumblr
call me a faggot, but never, dare to imply I related to that shit hole
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To fluff trigger's catalogue with mediocre, full-length shows as opposed to the usual unfunny shorts.
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>>141418649
chidori's a stereotypical anime bitch and worst girl that needs to die by the end. nico's the superior choice.
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>>141418816
>stereotypical
she's very different from your typical tsundere
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What is this anime about, anyway?
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this is 13 episodes right?
>almost halfway through
>nothings happened
>big event/death hasn't happened yet
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>>141418912
Human interactions between archetype characters, with a tweest. And forced drama. So at the moment literally nothing.
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>>141418773
Then don't share their idea that only men can commit rape and that if women do it has to be a different term.

It's just rape no matter who does it to who.
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>>141418933
>Then don't share their idea that only men can commit rape and that if women do it has to be a different term.
>It's just rape no matter who does it to who
are you by any chance autistic?
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>>141418816
>Chidori's a bitch
If I had fallen in love with the MC in the past when he used to be different and he acted like the way he did in episode 3, I'd want to kick him in the dick.
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>>141418950
Whatever you gotta tell yourself, tumblr.
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>>141418927
If we gotta judge by the BDs on the site, it's gonna be 1 cour, but there's no official info
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>>141419000
>>141418927

The animation looks expensive. You can nearly always tell when its 2cour.
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I am worried. Red still seems to like Kacchon and he has started to be the person she wants him to be.
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>>141418932
Oh gee, just what I excepted from Okada. Luckily, my experienced with Gundam Iron-Blood make me stay away from this anime.
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>>141418932
>forced drama
when will this meme die
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>>141417125
>show defies genre
>"HELP WHATS THE POINT OF THIS I DONT GET IT"
>"ITS ALL OVER THE PLACE, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING"

God I hate you people so much.
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>>141419104

Being different =/= being good. That's Max Landis logic.
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>>141419068
Apathic little shit will wake up to "feel again", fall in love with Red, but she will fall in love with Not Kamina, which is brotier and trying to set them up together.
Drama ensues.
You heard it here first.

>>141419096
Except it is not a meme in this case.
It was literally Sonozaki forcing drama to make otherwise unfriendly people "connect".
Are you even watching the show?
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>>141417125
To unironically watch boys interact with girls due to a deus ex machina that makes them question the nature of wounds.
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>>141419120
being different =/= being bad

Just cause you don't get what the show is about yet or doesn't seem to be easy to guess in which direction it will go doesn't mean it's a bad show
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>>141419165

>over 1 hour into show
>the narrative and tone are still all over the place

That's called 'bad writing'.
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>>141419145
if they make chidori and tenga happen i will fly to japan just to take a shart on trigger's doorstep.
you heard it here first.
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>>141419145
>It was literally Sonozaki forcing drama to make otherwise unfriendly people "connect".
By that reason all drama that is caused by an external source is "forced". Flash news, drama ensues because something changes the status quo, it doesn't appear from nothing.
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>>141419145
making unfriendly people connect is the point of the fucking project, you moron

sonozaki specifically says they picked problematic people who would never associate with each other
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>>141418933
>gets trigger by rape-terminology
>calls other people tumblr

I have bad news for you kid.
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>>141417125
To stroke the ego of whoever wrote it. He's smarter than you, OK? We will never understand the level of his pretentiousness.
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>>141417125
>this anime is not the same generic SoLshit i watch every season
>im scared guys please tell me whats going on
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>>141419195
either adhd or autism
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>>141419207
You dense motherfucker.
If sothing happens, for a reason or by chance, and it accidentaly brings out drama, it's okay.
If you do an action with the only intent of creating drama, that's forced.

>>141419231
I'm not saying it's not the point of the project.
I'm saying that the point of the project is forcing drama for drama's sake.
I'm actually quite enjoying it, but I'm not so blind not to call things by their name.
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>>141418912
It's a show about nothing, except the main characters can share each other's physical pain. It's a total melodramatic edgefest. I dropped it after episode 2 after it became clear that it was headed nowhere.
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>>141417125
Didn’t you get the memo kid? It is no longer cool to hate on Okada.
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>"wow this show is about nothing! but I while i'm telling you this I'm also enjoying Flying Shit aka the most boring show of the season but it doesn't matter! this one is about nothing!"

Shitposters, everyone. The quality of them has dropped a lot lately.
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>>141418933
>>141418741
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>People still pretending Kiznaiver is anything but AOTY
When is this meme going to stop?
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>>141419355
But that show is le "comfy"!
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Trigger really is the best studio.
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To make you speak about it, so it is successful.
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>>141419299
>If you do an action with the only intent of creating drama, that's forced.
How stupid do you have to be to think they made them become kiznaivers just for the sake of creating drama?

Or do you genuinely think Okada made the kizuna system as a simple plot device and it will not be a central feature of the series?
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>>141417125
Dropped this after the cringefest that was episode 3, does it get any worse?
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>>141419416
Yes. Now fuck off.
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Chidori being cute
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I actually like it when I read of people hating on this series for the most asinine reasons.

Makes me feel like only true patricians can appreciate forms of art as polished and unique as Kiznaiver.
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how can one boy be so cute? science help
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>>141419446
>Okada
>patrician
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>>141419416
You dropped it, get the fuck out or pick it up and see for yourself. We're not in your brain. Fortunately.
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>Anime that isn't a slice of life airs
>"T-this is just pretentious edgy shit"

Every season.
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>>141419355
At least I can't cut myself while watching Flying Shit.
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>>141419458
every single boy and girl in the series is either cute af or hot af

>>141419469
>it's edgy so it's bad
i want moeshitters to leave
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>>141419396
Maybe in the future.
At the moment tha kizuna system has been used only to create tension and dramatic situations.
Hence, thus far, it's forced drama.
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>>141419446
>lacks a coherent plot or theme but tries to cover the deficiency with thick pretentiousness
>"h8ers gonna h8, tho"
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>>141419465
>anime isnt about 4 girls doing nothing but lesbian shit
>WHY DOES THIS ANIME EXIST!?
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>>141419506
"pretentious" is a codeword for "I don't get it, and this makes me upset so I will attempt to lower its perceived level to make myself feel better about my subpar intelligence"

thanks for proving my point, here's a (You)
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>>141417125
to show that sonozaki is a cute
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>>141419195
do you have to be fed by a nurse. or being this stupid is normal to you?
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>>141419490
>>141419518
>>141419552
Cut the emotional bullshit. Why is your only defense of this anime to strawman its criticism and ad hominem its critics? I've yet to see a single rational explanation of why you think the anime is good.
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>>141419589

>some kid on 4chan calls a college graduate dumb because his favorite animay is bad
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>>141419599
Not even one of the anons you quoted but we ad hominem its critics because they're all retarded shitposters like you.

"I don't know what to say, better call bad writing without explaining why it's bad, let me just say it's bad because I say so"

Fuck off.
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>>141419599
Stop projecting on logical fallacies and give some actual criticism.

I have yet to see an explanation of why you think it's bad that doesn't resort to buzzwords.

If you can structure your thoughts into an actual discussion instead of bursting into memes i will be glad to discuss.

>>141419621
>look at me im a college graduate, how dare you say i'm dumb, my shitty opinion is absolute
pathetic
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>>141419621
>college graduate
>smart

No wonder you're retarded.
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>>141419711
They told you they don't get it. Elaborate then.
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>>141419679
>>141419711
You are not learning your lesson very well. I guess you don't really care about not being taken seriously? Then again why write up such a long reply if you understand that people will continue to not take you seriously for once again doing the exact things you have been criticized for doing?
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>>141417125
Why does she look transgendered?
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Its obvious they are just baiting

Dont respond to them
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>>141419767
>I was asked to prove why it's bad writing
>I don't know what to say because I'm retarded
>Let me write some meaningless shit instead trying to be le ebin trole

You're the worst kind of human abort, kill yourself.
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>>141419733
These are the reasons they've brought up
>there's forced drama
>it's edgy
>nothing happens
>it's pretentious

I'm not wasting my time on obvious bait and memeposting. anyone who posts like that is clearly uninterested in having a discussion and would resort to baiting and trolling anyways.
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>>141419465
>>141419518
>Waaah! Why isn't this anime gurren lagann?
>UGH FUCKING SOLSHITEATERS /v/ HAS WAY BETTER TASTE IN ANIME THAN /a/!
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>>141419889
They think it's all over the place so they don't get it as you stated, now elaborate on the plot.
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Chidori's so sweet. I hope she gets a good ending.
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>>141417305
>Kokoro Connect
>Saw
>Breakfast Club
>Sense8

Good lord, what else has this anime been compared to?

>>141419355
I think the disdain lies within what Kiznaiver was setting up to be or rather what I've thought to be. I can't speak for Flying Witch but I submit Kuma Miko. Sure it's another SoL so you can expect there to be little progress, but at the same time you weren't here for that. The characters and the situations (sexual or funny) were enough to keep you sticking around. It's like coming to see a show that's advertised as a horror, but it turns out it's a comedy; subverted expectations, if you will.

I can't speak for everyone else but I expected there to be an enjoyable cast, character driven drama, and perhaps the Kizuna conspiracy to be at least slightly suspenseful. I liked the premise but the characters I didn't care for (I dislike Sonozaki and Hisomu) and from what I can make from things past episode 3, where I put it on hold/dropped it, nothing really piqued my interest.

I'm still lurking the threads hoping there will be something to get me back on the train again. I dropped the aforementioned Kumamiko due to my prejudice, picked it up, then turned out enjoying it, so maybe Kiznaiver will do the same but so far I'm interested in the destination but the journey isn't too promising.
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>>141419963
>now elaborate on the plot
Do you expect me to give you a summary of the episodes or what?

what is it that you don't get about the plot?
why do you think it's all over the place?
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>>141420025
I don't, they said it was all over the place and you said they don't get it. So, elaborate on the plot.
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>>141419599
You want me to give you a 300 world autismoclasm about why it'good, like how your kind do with moeshit like Keion?

No, fuck off instead.
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>>141419991
Chidori's so sweet. Obviously she exists only to suffer.
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>>141419999
>This show is advertised as character drive "drama"
>We got 5 episodes of character interactions
>but I don't like the characters

Then don't watch it since the characters won't change any time soon.

Still

>I dislike some of the Kiznaiver characters but pedobear and generic loli are entertaining

Eh
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>>141419999
Something big is bound to happen sooner or later, but it's mainly about the characters, so if you don't like them don't even bother.

I mean, they will most likely change and grow by the end of the series, it seems to be its point, but if you don't enjoy watching them interact it won't be any fun to watch.

Anyways i don't think you got to like most of the characters of a series to like the series itself... I mean, I dislike almost all characters from evangelion but it's still one of my favourite series.
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>>141420063
I don't understand you, are you trying to be an impartial watcher of the discussion or do you just want me to sperg out on why I like the series so you can nitpick at everything I write?

I'm not gonna write an essay on why I think Kiznaiver is good if you just keep going "elaborate on the plot" like that.
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>>141420180
So it was a draw to 0.
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>>141420225
Why do you type like a mongoloid?
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>>141420225
Some battles are not worthy of being fought I guess.

Both parties need to be equally invested in the discussion for it to be profitable, and shitposting doesn't deserve serious answers.
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>>141417125
UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND
THE CONCEPT OF LOVE
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>>141420262
I was very clear with my "demands" but you pulled back and put it at "my opinion vs theirs". So, 0 to 0.
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>>141420317
I'm not the anon you were talking to mong. I was just interested in why you type like an autist.
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>>141420397
The fuck you said about me you discount dog shit?! I am an A rank user!
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>>141420419
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>>141420451
Don't bump the thread with stupid garbage you imbecile! Lack of thread etiquette pisses me off too!
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>>141420317
You're very good at dodging questions

Why don't YOU say what you like/dislike and we start from there instead of going on with your autistic demands of "elaborating on the plot"?
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>>141420476
>thread etiquette

Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong site, reddit is two blocks down.

>>141420486
Stop replying to him honestly, he's just baiting poorly.
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>multiple people providing well reasoned explanations for their disappointment with the show
>"these are just memes and buzzwords!"
No, they're coherent opinions. You're the one spouting memes and buzzwords because you think that excuses you from your hypocritical position of tearing down everybody else but contributing nothing to the discussion yourself.
>"i don't HAVE TO explain why it's good, so stop bothering me!"
Then stop demanding other people spoonfeed their opinions to you like you're a little baby.
>"kiznaiver doesn't HAVE TO be 'about' anything because slice of life exists!"
Here's the problem: Kiznaiver isn't slice of life. It's intended as drama and, as such, has different expectations to meet. Dramas have their own standards, as action and comedy have their own, different standards. Kiznaiver isn't doing a good job meeting people's expectations, and this reflects poorly on the writing, which to a large degree lacks substance.

Like I said earlier, cut the emotional bullshit. You're only fooling yourselves.
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>>141420486
Because I saw it as a good way moving shit from "my word vs yours". After all you were the one that countered with "you don't get it".

>>141420503
Global rules you extra chromosomed garbage.
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>>141420521
>Kiznaiver is bad because it doesn't meet people expectantions (What expectantions?)
>It's bad because it doesn't follow the drama genre (What do you expect out of a drama?)
>The writing is poor (Why is it poor?)

You literally said nothing of substance in a 10 lines post, amazing. Literally next level brain deficit: the reply.

Hoping this is bait honestly.
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>>141420575
>The quality of posts etc.

You're not respecting that one aspie considering you type like an inbred mongoloid.
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Please stop replying to this retarded shitposter and bumping this thread.
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>>141420521
>multiple people providing well reasoned explanations for their disappointment with the show and coherent opinions, not memes and buzzwords!

>>141417262
>>141418775
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>>141419259
>>141419304

I could give more examples but it got bored. Read this pile of garbage and tell me again these are well reasoned explanations and not memes, baiting, buzzwords and shitposting.
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>>141420616
You are the one bumping the thread. Funny because you started the whole thing you shit-throwing ape.
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When they'll reveal Lavander hair face? In the morgue scene during episode two she had freckles.

Freckle-chan must've been the cutest.

And the story is explicit: to form connections ala Oregairu to obtain something genuine beyond superficiality.
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>>141420671
>implying I'm bumping

There's a secret to avoid bumping thread that newfags like you don't know about.

Still, you keep coming back for more, you can't avoid enjoying getting insulted right, you little buttslut?
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>>141420689
Oregairu is literally wish-fulfillment haremshit with the unpopolar kid being the only male alive for the female population of his school.

Please don't ever compare it to anything that isn't literal trash.
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>>141420714
I knew you bumped at least once you dingus, don't pretend.
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>>141420689
I'm eager to know more about that stuff too.
Especially after Maki's rapey scene in the last episode.

>>141420575
Once again your skill at avoiding to answer is staggering.
Expose your thoughts instead of remaining in your safe space and maybe.

If some inbred retard shows up and goes "X thing is shit" without adding anything, I'm not gonna write an essay defending X thing.
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>>141418842
No, she's the very archetype of tsundere.

Kiznaiver characters are all walking archetypes of some sort, they're not exaggerations or caricatures you usuall see. They're more ampled down.
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Strangely enough the only decent Kiznaiver threads we have on /a/ are the ones right after an episode has aired, and those threads usually should be the ones full of shitposters. I guess you can't truly predict the minds of retards.
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>>141420784
My safe space? I know nothing about this show so I can't argue for or against. Once you get out of YOUR safe space then you will have a point, after all you did the "so you don't get it then" thingy.
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>>141420806
An archetypal tsundere wouldn't confess in the second episode.

She's still one but only like 1/3 tsundere.
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>>141420087

I guess what I wanted to see was character evolution. Remember, these people barely had anything to do with each other and perhaps with these tasks which would make characters bond they would evolve. I guess it didn't turn out the way I was expecting it


>I dislike some of the Kiznaiver characters but pedobear and generic loli are entertaining

That's right, I find what you call a generic loli and a bear more entertaining than the cast of Kiznaiver and the sad part is that Kiznaiver was supposed to be character driven given the premise and Kumamiko like I said is a slice of life so character development is a perk if it does happen, but this is subjective.

>>141420132
Like I said to above the only characters I didn't like were Sonozaki, who seems like a bitch, and Hisomu, I never found masochists funny and his effeminate yelps were annoying too he was the straw that broke the camel's back. I was hoping all characters to evolve and I would actually care if something to befall them. Maybe you guys were right, if the characters haven't changed this far, don't expect to like them later on.

>Something big is coming
I hope this doesn't do this in the last 3 episodes for a desperate, rushed climax. If it's 12 episodes, my misgivings only increase.

>Anyways i don't think you got to like most of the characters of a series to like the series itself... I mean, I dislike almost all characters from evangelion but it's still one of my favourite series.

That's a hard one, but more power to you. I can't stick around if the characters are spiteful (I made this mistake with Infinite Stratos and Seitokai no Ichizon)
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>>141417125
At least the show is good overall? i want to watch it but i've read a big shitstorm about it
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>>141420753
>Hkikgaya bullied
>Katsuhira bullied
>Hikigaya love Yukino the reserved and collected girl while possibly liking Yuigahama the social bubbly girl out of the pair
>Katsuhira have an interest in Sonozaki the mysterious reserved and called girl while possibly liking Chidori the social bubbly girl of the pair
>both series have two autists and one normalfag
Could've fool me, anon. Yet, I won't get fooled again. I can see the ending a mile away, Katsuhira x Sonozaki are OTP as much as Hikigaya x Yukino.
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>>141420858
>>141420806
How is she a tsundere?
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>>141420913
It's watch it and form your own opinion
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>>141420806
As a dude who hates tsundere with burning passion, I can tell that you are full of shit.

Chidori is miles better than those cunts.
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>>141420876
>That's right, I find what you call a generic loli and a bear more entertaining than the cast of Kiznaiver

That's not the show's fault though, it's just your down syndrome.
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>>141420853
>I know nothing about this show so I can't argue for or against
Get the fuck out of this thread

>>141420816
Noticed that too, but only after episode 3 or so. The first kiznaiver threads were horrifying.

>>141420876
They are growing as characters, if this is what you want to know. I don't know if this will be the major point of the series but it's surely happening.

Autist MC is showing interest in someone and is truly thinking about his condition. also he's showing gratitude to chidori, and he's behaving in a different way from the start.

Sonozaki was shown to be more similar to Kacchon than we thought and to have no power at all over the project

Maki was hinted at having a major psychological issue that will probably be tackled later on

Yuta is a lot different than what I had thought initially.

Tenga, Chidori, Nico and Hisomu haven't changed much though.
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It honestly baffles me when people say Okada is a good writer. The only good thing she's ever worked on is Toradora, and Toradora is an ADAPTATION

Okada's style is the worst of both words - it is sloppy AND slow

An Okada show will be slow to start up but quick to end, it will have characters bumble around and then suddenly act like massive retards to end the show

There's a reason her shows all tank - she's just not very good

I think the only reason people defend her is out of a sense of stubborn contrarianism
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>>141421010
I can't be ordered by a C rank user, know your place.
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>>141421024
>There's a reason her shows all tank - she's just not very good
>What is AnoHana?

There's a reason you're not a very good shitposter, you don't even know what you're shitposting about.

Literal retards, everyone.
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>>141421010
>hinted
pretty sure corpses talking to you isn't normal, and she took it like it was normal and happened often, and had more of a rapey look in her eyes than fear at the time. strictly speaking, her confession that she had a terrible personality was probably 100% correct, but more in the sense that she has some form of schizophrenia than just as a statement that she is a bitch.
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>>141421058
>AnoHana
People like that show because of the directing and insert-song, not because of the writing.

Too bad Okada isn't the director or song-writer:(
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>>141421010
Thanks for the info. Again, it's not like I dropped it and perhaps it's my impatience putting me on edge which is why I may wait for a batch download to see it in it's entirety.

>>141420994
Fine, I'll bite shitposter. What did I tell you about the liking these characters being subjective? No, it's not the show's fault that they don't cater to me. Does it by default make it a bad show? No.
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>>141421024
>>141421093
yeah, i'm sure she keeps consinstently getting hired because she has mind control powers
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Okada is a boring, sloppy writer.

Everytime she writes a script I groan. She always does the same thing. She'll set up a potentially interesting premise and then fail to deliver on it

Those poor Gundam IBO fags. They were praising Okada as a genius during the first three episodes

Then, because the writer was fucking Okada, nothing happened until the end, where we see a girl get a drill through the chest and be fine the next episode because god forbid something unexpected happens in an Okada show
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>>141417125
Sonozaki being a semen demon.
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>>141421121
>I may wait for a batch download to see it in it's entirety.
that would probably be the best option, since getting small hints at plot advancements every week is a bit frustrating, but I love the art and direction so much I can't help but watch the new episode asap every time.
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>>141421122
Kek, as if getting hired means you're any good. Reminder that the main writer of Aldnoah Zero was the guy who wrote Boku No Pico
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>>141421121
There's no subjectiveness in you having down syndrome anon. Now stop replying to me and keep dreaming about being raped by a bear out of this thread.
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>>141421024
>>141421159
You're a boring, sloppy samefag.
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>>141420858
>>141420943
>>141420989
In the classical meaning of the word like one of Rumiko's characters. Not like the the cookie cutter Shakugan No Shana clones.
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>>141421179
Never said that getting hired means you're good, but anyone who says Okada never writes stuff that sells decently is delusional.
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>>141421217
I still don't see it.
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>>141421195
>Two people d-don't like muh Okada!
>B-better call them a samefag
Pathetic.
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>>141420784
>Especially after Maki's rapey scene in the last episode
It could be probable Freckle-chan rejected Maki sentiments, or she were the better and likeable one out of the duo, where everyone idealized her and Maki felt excluded.

I wouldn't set it aside me if Okada wrote Maki as the lesbian of the group. Or, at least bisexual, if Maki x Yuta is to happen in the finale.
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>>141421285
It's hard to use paint. It took you longer than expected though, which only confirms your mental deficit shitposter-kun.
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>>141421355
I still think it has to do with rape.

Maki has clear problems with her body, "has no interest in herself" and reacts in an irritated way when questioned about her past.

She also has no interest in making love in a "pure" way, but she doesn't act like a slut that enjoys sex as a merely physical act.

My guess is that purple hair was her sister and both were abused by her father, but she did nothing to stop him and this caused her death.
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>>141420937
Shit taste.
I bet you are a Reifag as well.
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>>141417125
They decided to make an entire show around the "break the cutie" trope
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This show was looking pretty shit so far, but the latest episode really gave me some faith in it.
The unappealing characters are improving, and the poorly realized setting is slowly being fleshed out. Even the ridiculous over-the-top stuff feels like it's going to start making sense.

Definitely hard to chew, though.
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>>141417125
Kizuna between friends is a great thing.
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>**2,457位/**2,457位 (***,179 pt) [*,**3予約] 2016/06/08 Kiznaiver

BRAVO OKADA

BRAVO
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>141421810
Not even worth a (You).

Apply yourself.
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>141421875
>kek

I usually avoid using kek when shitposting because it makes it too obvious. Take this as a lesson.
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>>141421965
>**2,457位/**2,457位 (***,179 pt) [*,**3予約] 2016/06/08 Kiznaiver
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>>141420650
>Picking just the shittiest post instead of the reasoned ones

Goddamn, not one honest person in this shit thread.
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>141421997
Now that's an image directly from /v/.

You're really not helping me in teaching you how to be a good shitposter.
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>>141421810
sounds pretty good for early sales

>>141422007
>reasoned ones
where?
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>>141421810
Its getting higher by the episode

It will be nice if it gets at least 3k
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Isn't the director of this a newbie?

He's pretty good.
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>>141422040
In this thread.
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Everyone defending this show claiming "you watch shit anime all the time so you have no right to question this one" need to fuck off.

I don't have a problem with this show, the OP is good, it's nice to look at, but it is pretty boring so far, and pretty boy was a let down.
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>>141422118
The only one who wasn't baiting or shitposting is this anon >>141419999.
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>>141422161
I agree. I like it myself, but I'm not going to pretend the critique isn't justified.
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>>141422040
That's fucking horrendous for early sales
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>>141422253
I agree, this show is bad because I say it's bad. Don't bother about it.
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>>141422161
Trigger and Okada go together like oil and water.

The director's desperate drive to being ANY energy into the show is distracting, because the script clearly is more lowkey and boring

I've no idea why Imaishi thought Okada was a good fit for Trigger

Then again, maybe he DIDN'T, which is why he made Luluco this season
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>>141422267
The stalker thread is the other way. Nobody except autists care about the early sales of an original show they enjoy anyway.
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>>141422267
Well, the main part of the plot hasn't started yet and it's been getting better with each episode.
What are the sales of the other shows this season?
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>>141422301
>Well, the main part of the plot hasn't started yet and it's been getting better with each episode.

The "main part" doesn't matter, the show's halfway over with. If you haven't got the ball rolling now, you're gonna end up with a rushed Charlotte style disaster

Minus the sales, of course. Okada isn't like Jun Maeda, she doesn't even bring a loyal fanbase with her to buy her trash.
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>>141422402
Why do you keep bumping this thread you retarded shitposter?
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DO NOT WORRY FRIENDS

IT IS ONLY EARLY SALES

OKADA WILL DELIVER

BASED OKADA WILL DELIVER A SATISFYING CONCLUSION, JUST LIKE SHE DID WITH IRON BLOODED ORPHANS AND AQUARION EVOL

DO NOT LISTEN TO THE ANTI-OKADA INSURGENTS

IGNORE THE PRE-ORDER NUMBERS

THEY ARE OUT TO DECEIVE YOU!
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>>141422471
Some day I will understand what kind of mental disease brings people to go into threads of shows they don't like and post autism like this
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Why is /a/ so tsundere for Okada?
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Anyone have a mp3 of the OP? That shit is impossible to find.
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>>141422040
>sounds pretty good for early sales
Okay, I actually like this show, but how fucking deluded are you right now?
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>>141421159
>we see a girl get a drill through the chest
No, you saw it. In your delusions.
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>delinquent with a heart of gold
Is this the best kind of gap moe?
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>>141422298
I'd say sales of an original show are pretty important actually, especially one by Aniplex considering they tend to fund them so often. If this was an adaptation, then yeah, it's understandable to not give a shit, but for an original anime, it's very important
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>>141422570
He'll die you know.
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>>141422590
I doubt anyone's going to die in this show.
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>>141422547
original anime almost never sell well early
especially not dramas, and especially not shows like kiznaiver.
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>>141422589
They're not. It's an Okada show. It's not meant to have a 2nd season. I couldn't care less about the sales.
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>>141417125
It's funny because she smiles only in the thumbnail.
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>>141422631
Like pottery.
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>Following three episode rule
>First ep has me intrigued
>Second ep, not sure where this is going but I'm still down
>Third ep ends with most seemingly interesting character literally cumming himself over lol masochism

Jesus fucking Christ, /a/. And you have the audacity to bitch at dissenters about standards.
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>>141418399
Did she do it?
Did he enjoy it?
Shit, now I'll have to watch it.
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Imagine being Hiroshi Kobayashi and having to be all like “damn, Okada, your writing is fuckin` fine, all sexy with your forced drama stuffed into a one cour season and horrifically stupid characters, I would totally pre-order your show, both as a director and the real me.” when all you really want to do is direct the next season of Rage of Bahamut.

Like seriously imagine having to be Kobayashi and not only direct that show while Mari Okada flaunts her complete incompetence in front of you, your energetic directing barely concealing her terrible script and hacknyed dialogue, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while she wrote nonsensical plotlines and introduced new characters

Not only having to tolerate her hack writing but her haughty attitude as everyone on the project tells her she’s TOTALLY EMPOWERED and DAMN, SASUGA MARI-SAN! because they’re not the ones who have to sit there and read plotlines which go absolutely fucking nowhere

You’ve been working on nothing but fun projects and imaginative ideas for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Okinawa. You’ve never even seen any script this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the shit that's oozing out of her script, as she stands there, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in her “genre defying"(or at least that's what she's called it) writing as she's shat on both Tomino's and Bandai's legacy in the previous months.

And then the scene is written so fucking badly you have to call for another take, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you’re fucking Hiroshi Kobayashi

You’re not going to lose your future Kill La Kill sequel project over this. Just bear it, Kobayashi.

Hide your shame and bear it.
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The director is fucking great. He did in fact direct KLK episode 5 which was one of the best directed episodes.
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>>141422749
I'll save you time by saying that they were interrupted before anything happened.
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>>141419785
She is.
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>>141420650
Thanks for supplying so many (You)s to encourage everybody's behavior, anon!
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>>141417125
To make me jizz with gainax animation, chara-design and /fa/.
>>141422570
not-kamina is the /fa/est guy
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>>141422975
definitely one of the most /fa/ shows this season

i love the fact they bothered to show different outfits
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S O O N
O
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>>141423009
YES
YEESSS
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>>141418726
Stop, please like. Even as a troll this comment literally made my stomach sick.

This show has style yes, but other than that it's fucking hidieous that characters are off model 0% of the time and the animation isn't even remotely above average.
Re:zero, kabaneri and even jojo all look a million times better, go fucking kill yourself.
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>>141423009
I want Sonozaki to lay her hands on me.
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>>141423219
M-muh directing is all Kiznaiver friends have.

I mean, what are they gonna hold up in high esteem, the writing?
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>>141417125
Unfun Hetshit.
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>>141423219
kabaneri is the only visually pleasing show of those
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>>141423293
>Hetshit
Jesus, the show can't even get the fujoshis

What a failure on every level imaginable
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>>141423219
>kabaneri

Literally Slideshow: The Animation.

>but muh shading
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OP is the fucking BOMB

the BOMB
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>>141423219
Poor bait.

Consider suicide anytime soon.
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Honestly the point was to have a quirky interesting character story where 7 high school kids must come to understand one another.

The fact is the execution is absolutely terrible.

It it ended up and unfunny cringe worthy sol, where as the plot is contrived and forced through a poorly written plot device that evolves whenever it needs to.

Uninteresting poorly written one note archetypes clash with one another in the most obvious and generic ways possible for 20 minutes a week.

The art and animation isn't remotely consistent and it looks like shit 90% of the time. The art direction isn't anymore compelling on interesting that literally anything else.

The girls aren't even cute, like that's the easiest part.

The sad thing is there was so much desperate advertising of this shit it's almost sad, turns out it's by far the worst show this season, the shit is literally floping with like 20 pre-orders.

It's sad, but it's a pretty shit show so they deserve it.
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>>141423384
>fujoshits like a show
fujo bait, it's shit

>fujoshits don't like a show
even the fujoshits don't like it, it's shit

step up your game, shitposter-kun
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>>141423519
Man this is some fine pasta. Saved.

Your existence wasn't so worthless after all.
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>>141423422
All the stills and moving lines happen for like 30 seconds total out of a 20 minute show, and that's just WITS style really.

Nothing to complain about since the show looks absolutely gorgeous in motion or just the amazing done close ups.
Yes >muh shading is beautiful, so glad an anime original, hell a side project could look this good.
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>>141423519
All this fucking truth.
But this is /a/ so expect trigger fags to try there best to ignore it.
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I'm waiting for the twist involving Sonozaki, It's got to happen.

I like the show how it is but its just very uneventful or will fail to leave a memory when it ends.
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>>141423536
There's nothing wrong with fujo-pandering

Fujo pandering is why Psycho Pass got two seasons, a movie, and a likely third season as well

But Kiznaiver seems to fail even at fujo pandering

What a hopelessly incompetent project
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>>141423582
Kill yourself retard.
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>>141423519
I'm fucking done, these niggas at trigger really advertise this shit in a fucking fujoshi magazine, talk about desperate.

And fucking super lovers is projected to sell better yoooooooooo
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>>141423642
I remember when someone in the post-episode 2 thread was smugly predicting that Hisomu's appearance would signal the start of fujoshi baiting. Instead, the show is aggressively heterosexual with its ship-baiting.
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>>141423611
I am a HUGE Triggerfan, Luluco is making me lose my shit each week

But Trigger and Okada go together TERRIBLY. It's like the WORST combo

You can just SEE Kobayashi desperately trying to give this tepid shitty show energy and failing because the plot is slow and the characters lifeless
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>>141423519
>The girls aren't even cute
This is so damn wrong.
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>>141423696
>>141423536
Kiznaiver did try to fujo-pander. I mean, they announced the project in fucking PASH

But like everything Kiznaiver has "tried', they failed horribly

Honestly all you had to do to know this project would flop was look at the head script writer

Okada is only half-competent at slice of life
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>>141423707
This.
I agree luluco is fucking hilarious.

Like the premise for kiznaiver is pretty bullshit but it could definitely make for an interesting show.
6 episodes in and the sloppy writing is apparent to not be going anywhere.
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>>141423384
I wouldn't mind the hetero romances if they were interesting to watch. They're literally just pairing these characters up for the sake of having a guy and girl together.
It's boring.
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Have shitposters resolved to reply to each other since no one is giving them (You)s thanks to their obvious baits? Pretty sad.
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>>141423519
Alright i'm taking the bait

>unfunny cringe worthy sol
the funny parts are actually funny.
also, using the word cringe means opinion discarded

>poorly written plot device that evolves whenever it needs to
it evolved once, and it evolved because it was meant to evolve from the start. did you even watch last episode?

>Uninteresting poorly written one note archetypes clash with one another in the most obvious and generic ways possible
except they're all not really archetypes, and their conflict is actually rather realistic and endearing

>The art and animation isn't remotely consistent and it looks like shit 90% of the time.
zero artistic sense, and zero taste

>The art direction isn't anymore compelling on interesting that literally anything else.
the direction is objectively amazing

>The girls aren't even cute
now that's blatant baiting, there's so much waifu material in this show i can't even choose which one i like the most

>there was so much desperate advertising of this shit it's almost sad
there was no more advertisting than other anime originals, anon. stop projecting

>by far the worst show this season, the shit is literally floping with like 20 pre-orders
bs
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>>141423845
Why are you replying to meme buzzwords: the pasta.
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>KIznaiver
Is Trigger, like, obligated to make a bad project for every good one?
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>>141423845

>the funny parts are actually funny.

I bet you laugh when you fart in the tub huh autist? The show isn't funny in the least.

>it evolved once, and it evolved because it was meant to evolve from the start.

Evolved into something worse actually....shitty romance of broken people. Fanfuckingtastic.

> realistic and endearing

Pass me whatever drugs you are sniffing if you think Maki is endearing and realistic.

>zero artistic sense, and zero taste

Saying nothing as usual.

>the direction is objectively amazing

No it is objectively shit. See how easy it is to say something without backing it up?

>now that's blatant baiting, there's so much waifu material in this show i can't even choose which one i like the most

Chidori is at best decent but the rest are meh.

>bs

Fine it isn't the worst thing on but it is in the bottom 5. Absolutely terrible in almost all aspects.
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>>141423840
It's always like this with mid-week kiznaiver threads

haters just flock a few days after the last episode aired and everyone already gleefully discussed it
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>>141419999
I think they're slow-rolling the big reveal of whatever the major plot problem is, but naturally if you don't like the characters now you'll continue to dislike them moving forward.

Personally, I think the issue is with pacing, not with characters. We've gotten several episodes of character interaction and yet we're only just now seeing the emotional impacts of the Kiznaiver project, 5 episodes in? Plus, it's been that many episodes and there still hasn't been any plot development since "you guys share pain now."

Still, I think the show is fun, even if it's only because I enjoy rooting for Chidori. Also nice quads
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>Imaishi mecha anime announcement
>Kiznaiver is shelved like P.A. Works Glasslip
Every studio have their good and bad anime.

Trigger is still redeemable, P.A. Works redeem themselves with Shirobako and so can Trigger with the their next anime.
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This is weird, I'm actually liking the show a lot. I guess not sharing tastes with most of /a/ is a blessing though
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I am still trying to understand why the elites of society are wearing those ridiculous costumes and why Sonazaki is in charge of leading the experiment.

Also where the fuck are these kid's parents anyway? A discussion about where they are going or even talking about where they were on the first episode would be nice....but not let us ignore that.
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>>141424068
It's 2/3 shitposters circlejerking every Kiznaiver threads. The actual good discussion is right after an episode has aired.
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>>141423840
Well, at least hate threads make the episode discussion threads tolerable because everyone said what they wanted and it is out of their system. I'd rather experience this now then on Saturday.
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>>141423960
>The show isn't funny in the least.
I think some scenes are pretty funny, it's a subjective matter.

>shitty romance of broken people.
That's what the show is about, relationships between broken people.

>Pass me whatever drugs you are sniffing if you think Maki is endearing and realistic.
Maki is the exception, but we don't know much of her yet.

>Saying nothing as usual / See how easy it is to say something without backing it up?
Did you back up ANYTHING you've wrote so far, or did you just keep smearing your shitty opninon as if it were a fact?

>but the rest are meh.
Enjoy your moeblobs then, your loss.

>Fine it isn't the worst thing on but it is in the bottom 5.
muh early sales
muh popularity means everything

>Absolutely terrible in almost all aspects.
once again subjective
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>>141424068
/a/ is not an hivemind, different people like different things
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>>141424203
Come on dude. Stop replying. Not even the tards in the Boku no Hero Academia thread fell for his retarded shit bait after I pasta'd his reply.

Just ignore retards.
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I want to fuck Maki and Sonozaki at the same time.
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>>141424288
I'm leaving it at that since he bothered to reply
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>>141423845
>It is funny :(

You actually fined generic masochist cumming on everyone funny? Kill yourself.

>The plot device is supposed to evolve.

Yes, anon this is what we call poor writing. The writer's can't establish logical rules so they make the plot device as broken as possible for plot connivence and actual fucking retards such as yourself buy it.

>They are not archtypes.

Except they literally are, and they all act exactly how we've seen for ages.
It's like water always putting out fire.

Annoying childhood friend never confesses, then some main bitch pops in and wins, all the while childhood friend is jealous.
Uninteresting and generic plot points ensue it's fucking terrible.

>You have no taste!

The art and animation being inconsistent and have the most QUALITY, isn't a tast thing. it's a fact.

>DA gurls r cute!! Look at muh big eyes, and colorful hair! a cute! a cute!

Bitch, fuck off, the girls aren't any cuter than any other girls in any other show, there's nothing even remotely different or unique about any of them. They are all based off of tired stereotypes and they aren't even executed well.

>they didn't advertise it THAT much.

ooo but they did, aniplex have been advertising this shit for ages and it's still blowing ass.

>Bullshit sales.

Just checked and it has 176 pre-orders total.
Super lovers has 600.

Kill yourself.
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>>141423519
>Honestly the point was to have a quirky interesting character story where 7 high school kids must come to understand one another
No, the original conception,
>a traditional battle anime
>meat were the battle scenes; you can fight more because you share your wounds, if you're hurt to much everyone dies together
>Kobayashi told Okada the focus should revolve around the characterization
The story to Kiznaiver gradually evolved over the three years to what it is now: a character drama sci-fi thriller.

Six episodes in and Kiznaiver is a slow-burner. There is still hope in myself the story'll progress into something other then slice-of-life shenanigans and bite into the lore of Sugomori and the Kizuna System/Committee instead of receving the ambiguous fragmental information presented thus far. It's not building itself up for potential and the reveal is probably the most generic shady organization trope imaginable. It's like Okada forgot that and were to focus on writing the psychology of the characters and tossed in anything regarding the city.
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>>141424427
I'm not talking about what it was supposed to be before they had a set idea, i'm talking about what it is currently trying to be, and currently failing at.
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>>141424421
Man you're already famous, you can stop now.

>>141423808
>>141424028
>>141424450

Despite being a retard your post was funny enough that you deserved to become pasta.
At least your existence had a meaning now.
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>>141421464
Rei is best girl.

>>141421423
Whatever the reason, I hope it is justifiable. Although, your reasoning is probable and I can see that as Maki's backstory.
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I'm only watching this for Tenga, Yuta, Nico, and whatever autistic stuff MC does.

The only thing this show has going for it is the character designs and the comedy. But the comedy isn't great all the time.
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>>141424539
I think it would've done better if there just wasn't a romantic element. They should've kept the cast single gendered and just yuri/fujo baited.
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>>141422662
My thoughts exactly. I'm still watching the show because the OP and direction are enjoyable, but I dislike basically the entire cast to a degree.

The "lolmasochism" is especially bad because of how desperate an attempt to write an actual character it is. I didn't even know Okada had anything to do with this, and have no beef with her.
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Man, this show really divided people,
really no middle ground, half of the people love it, half hate it.

I honestly like it, i really don't get what people wan't or say.

They say that there's no plot, but then everyone praises monogatari,
witch is basically 50+ episodes of dialogue and fanservice, it too is sill good.

They say the romance is forced, but i really don't get it,
i just seems that people shipped everyone, and since all the ships came true, the romance s forced

The characters are on the surface, one sided, but episode, by episode, they leek more about them selves,
making the point that not everyone is who they seem.

the only con of the show is that the mc really is a autistic faggot,
and, the purple guy is just fanservice, he's a shit, so far his only personalty is
"im a emo-looking weirdo"

Im expecting the story to be bigger soon, they established a very strong base,
the story could end up amazing, and while 13 episodes aren't much it could still be great.
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>>141424641
>They should've kept the cast single gendered

That would be kind of weird since they're trying to connect everyone.
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>>141424753

This is decent bait. I won't tug the line though because I could destroy you in about 50 lines.
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>>141424815
How about you destroy my cock with your mouth, you sissy?
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>>141417125
Honestly the show is just disappointing, like I had high hopes that even if it's bad it'd still be entertaining like Kill la kill(which i actually really enjoyed)

But this show is just bad, like there isn't any saving grace besides the art style, which doesn't even look like it'self half the time, it's like they got all the b team to make this.

Whilst luluco has all the style this show has and the crazy animation and visuals but it fits the show so well.

But kiznaiver is just bad. To anyone currently watching, besides the fact that it's made by trigger, why are you watching this?
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>>141424868

Wrong it may be bad in general but the opening is godly. So take that.
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>>141424868
>>141423519
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>>141424753
It's really not half n half, it's more like 75% to 25%.
75% have realized that the show is actually pretty bad and stop being delusional cause it's a new trigger show.

25% are either fujoshi or still in denial.
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>>141424868
>>141424909
>>141423519
All me.
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>>141424868
>To anyone currently watching, besides the fact that it's made by trigger, why are you watching this?
I want to know if it'll go anywhere, and I don't like dropping shows to begin with.
Also, I like purple guy. He's cute and funny, IMO.
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>>141424860

How sad of a person do you have to say some gay shit like this. Have a nice day champ and try to slit your wrists.
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>>141424517
Translation, everything I said was write and your only defense is mock my comments cause you can't counter any of the points.

Not surprised.
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>>141424988
I sensed you were a faggot. Not my fault you enjoy sucking cocks senpai.
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>>141425001
Learn to write before making any points.

You type like a mongoloid.
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>>141424868
I watch the show because it's not as bad as you say it is. Also, I like Tenga. And it looks pretty great, I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>141423519
>>141420521
I'm so confused. When I started watching this show I thought it was undoubtedly bad. I wasn't trying to be edgy or contrarian or whatever.

They threw a bunch of barely interesting characters into the first episode, with the only interesting part being that they might become interesting later on. Arguably no character in any show is 'deep' or complex right from the beginning, but interesting doesn't necessarily mean depth or complexity.
>How are they supposed to make so many characters interesting within only 20 minutes?
You basically can't, but if your medium doesn't allow you to do so, you need to find another way and not just ignore the limits that exist. This is why you don't see Asuka, Kaworu, Kaji and everyone else in the first episode of NGE or why there is initially just Sailor Moon and not the other girls. You need time to build up characters first before introducing more.

Then there is so much exposition and on top it takes itself way too seriously. Mayoiga did a similar thing, but you know that at most it's gonna be an entertaining trainwreck. This doesn't make it any less stupid, but this is what will make most people think Kiznaiver is pretentious, since not only is it just as stupid, but it pretends to be so incredibly smart and 'deep'.

Then I came to these threads and see people defending it, which would be okay if they made sense, but I mostly just read stuff like
>You hate it because it's different
No, I think it has some very apparent flaws and I'm surprised that there are people who can't seem to understand that it'd make others dislike the show.
>Taste is subjective. You're an idiot if you can't undestand that others like stuff that you don't.
Enjoying stuff is subjective, but these are flaws, alright? Flaws make a show worse unless you watch it ironically. You might still like it if you're able to tolerate some bullshit and that's fine, but I don't think it's hard to understand why there are so many who think it's shit.
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>>141424753
>really no middle ground, half of the people love it, half hate it.

If half the people liked it, it would have more than twenty fucking pre-orders, Anon
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>>141425010

Projecting this hard. Amusing. Do continue.
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Also, seriously, there really is nothing here for fujoshi. There was a tiny amount of homobait in episode 3, but by now they're very obviously focusing on endgame boy/girl ships. It's pretty obvious to anyone who actually watches the show.
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>>141425085

This. The people who "love this" don't really love it but rather find it decent enough to watch. Big difference between love and enjoyable.

For example, I like Ushio Tora season 2 currently but I won't buy any volumes of the manga because of it.
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>>141425086
Of course you find it amusing, you keep coming back for more imagery of you sucking my cock while you're prolly stuffing something up your ass.

You really are a dirty bitch. If you want it so much, start by sending me your contact informations and some pics of your spread out butthole.
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>>141425092
There really is nothing for anyone in Kiznaiver

It's one of those "waste of a timeslot" shows
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>>141417125
To give triggerniggers something to watch and defend.
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I seriously hope my fellow shitposters understand that everyone has left this thread except for them.

Whatever, I'll go shitposting the Hero Academia thread.next.
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This anime is good, debate me.
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>>141417125
I really don't know. I guess the plot is giving the autistic boy back his feelings but princess tutu did it better and had more to offer.
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>>141424336
Sonazaki is best girl and worth your love.

Maki is a crazy damaged goods bitch, avoid at all costs.
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>>141419446
shut up cuppy, go to start a 3x3 thread
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>>141425203
Calling reports is against the rules newfag.
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>>141425092
You don't know how a fujoshi's brain works, don't you? They'll ship characters who have never been in the same place a single time. Or even fucking met. Just because it would be 'sexy'.
They'd put all this show's male characters in a bed with tentacles and toys, just because it makes them wet.
You really have no idea.
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I wish this thread could be like the Kabaneri threads. Shitpsoters get ignored and they love the show so much they focus on it completely.
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>>141424753
>me
>>141424860
>>141425010
>>141425153
>not me
>>141425086
just pointing out im not a raging insecure homosexsual
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>>141425272
Actual post-episode discussion is like you said.

There's nothing to discuss right now, so we're just passing time by shitposting or replying to shitposters.
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>>141425272
There are no threads like this on a/ and never had.
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>>141423384
Fujoshis always force heterosexual characters into gay relationships in fanart though. I guess these characters haven't been able to become endearing to them.
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>>141425301
You went out of your way to prove something you're not insecure of while you actually seem pretty insecure about it.

We're not racists here anon, we can deal with you enjoying a cock or two.
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Okada? Mari Okada? Is that you?

Mari, I can't and won't make this any simpler for you.

You failed at life. You failed. When one thinks of what a writer is capable of, pushing herself to the limits physically, mentally and emotionally to achieve heights of success never before mentioned, your name will not be whispered in the same, reverent fashion that others have.

Nobody will remember Mari Okada. You aren't even a header or a footer in the career of someone else. You are nobody. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

In short, you are an enormous failure.

Okada, being that you're about 45 years old and your brain has probably hard-wired itself to accept such failures by now and write off such criticism by being "flippant", really suggests that you've passed beyond the proverbial breaking-point. There's no turning back. This is your career, this is what defines you and this is what you'll defend to the end.

The abhorrent failure that is Kiznaiver, Mari Okada, that is your legacy.

Maybe I'm over-reaching, however. Who knows? People CAN change. Maybe you'll read this, Mari, and think long and hard about what a wasteful life you've led. Maybe you'll think, "wow. It's incredible just how abysmal and pathetic I really AM!" Maybe you'll go for a run in the morning. Maybe you'll take a self-help class.

Maybe in a couple of years, Okada, you'll have learned from this failure. I doubt it, though.

I genuinely doubt it.

Now excuse me, I have to work on Madoka Magica Season 2. Stalker estimates over seventy thousand BDs sold
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I'd be way more okay with the pacing of this show if it was confirmed for more than 12 episodes
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>>141425372
>have to work

I lol'd.
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>5 episodes in
>none of the girls have wanted to see how much getting kicked in the nads hurts

Unrealistic.
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I'm waiting for it to be revealed that Sonoaki pushed for the Kizuna project to be revived because she believes it's her fault that Katsuhira can't feel pain, and she wants to fix him.

>>141425814
The pain gets split 7 ways, so they'd have to kick all the boys at once.

I just noticed that Yuta-kun-dess is a lefty.
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>>141424868
I agree with this. I do like Kiznaiver, but Triggers style is just so expressive, it sucks to see it wasted on what is most definitely going to morph into melodramatic horseshit.
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>>141425224
No need when 200 of the 260 comments on this thread are all talking about how disappointing/bad the show is.
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>>141417125
Floping aparently.
Just a shit show that's trying to be deep but without any acual depth.
It's just 12 episodes so the show can go "We don't need the Kizuna system to understand eachother! We just need to talk" or some shallow shit like that. Classic Okada writting
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>141426166
>294 posts
>87 IPs

I wonder.

Not even worth a (You) by the way.
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>>141425372
Urobuchi + Imaishi when?
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>>141425240
I do know, actually. Because I'm genuinely annoyed that the white/purple ship baiting didn't go anywhere and that white is pretty much guaranteed to end up with blue or red.
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>>141424868
I watch it for the characters and their cute interactions. Sonozaki is a treasure. Also, visually, the show looks good enough that I almost don't mind when seemingly nothing is going on plot-wise.
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>>141417125
It's about relationship and to be connected with people through mutual pain.
Like the holocaust.
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>>141417125
We haven't had an anime original this good in a while, it turned out to be as good as I had expected when it got announced

I would like the plot to advance a bit faster desu but so far it's AOTS for me, possibly AOTY since next season's stuff looks like shit.

Don't know why the sales are that bad, but it's still early and it's not like the Japs have good taste anyways.
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>>141417642
It's so easy to see. She will lose
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>>141417125
A shit. I hope Kiznaiver gets cancelled
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>>141427180
She'll win the Tenga.
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>>141417125
Simply for watching, anon
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>>141425975
I dunno, man. That one scene from Innou Battle suggests that Trigger might actually have a way with 'melodramatic horseshit
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>>141426710
Holy fuck all this blatant denial. I actually just feel bad for you.
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Anyone else hoping this becomes Eva in the last 6 episodes
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>>141427180
Its good for her if she looses. Who needs an autisitic MC, who doesn care anyway
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>>141427232
then it's a bitch that conforms herself as long as she can end up with any random guy, is nothing new, what a cliche
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This is a 10/10 thread, just no stop shitting all over this garbage.
Japan hates it and /a/ hates it. Today is a good day.
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>>141427307
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>>141427626
>/a/ hates it

Fuck off. /a/ is not one person.
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I like that the bully's sidekick got a moment to talk about how shit his life is.
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>>141427593
That's Okada's shit, Chidori deserves a better plot, and that's the reason why I fucking drop Kiznaiver time ago, they just want to be a Evangelion2.0 or Kill la Kill at the best, but they're failling in every way
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>>141427687
It's just the general consensus after looking at all the real comments on this show, it's fucking great
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>>141427432
Shitty show and shitty Main Character.
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>>141427825
>general consensus
Nope. Just a vocal minority.
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>>141427857
>90% of the comments
>No one is buying it
>It's become the butt of this season jokes
Vocal minorty. Suuure

Whatever helps you sleep at night anon.
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No one is enjoying this anime, not even Japan. Fuck. Just kill this series already.
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>>141428019
No, there is one person enjoying this>>141427918

Just one.
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>>141428019
it's just 12 episodes, could have been worse with 24
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>>141427593
Tenga is not any random guy, he's best boy.
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>>141427626
>>141427918
this thread is roughly 50% people who dislike the show/shitpost and 50% people who like it

post-airing threads are 99% people who like the show discussing the new episode.

does it mean the general consensus of /a/ is this show is the best ever?
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>>141428104
Tenga is just a fucking Kamina 2.0 and Chidori a Yoko 2.0, so easy to read
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>>141428104
Tenga is the most shit character ever. The MC is better than him.
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>>141417125
SoL and major plot shit in the first and last episode.
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>>141428286
Kill yourself.
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>>141428395
Only if you kill yourself as well.
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Yeah yeah you can say whatever you want to shitpost about the newest Trigger show but I will say one, and only one good thing about this show is the fact that the heroine dresses up in various outfits every episode. Despite all else, Okada knows Sonozakifags want their favorite girl in different outfits.
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>327 replies
>93 IPs

They should make a rule about the quality of shitposters.

Mongoloids failing to bait anyone becomes boring after a while.
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It's pretty cringeworthy at times, especially the last episode with the chainsaws scene and forward.

I like the character interaction when there's no drama.
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>>141426710
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>>141417125
More melodramatic garbage with bad dialog by Okada and pretentious garbage themes that try to be clever while also doing low brow humor, something Imaishi made sure to inculcate into the poor young'uns at Trigger.
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>>141418775
But Hackadoll was actually great.
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We haven't had a Kiznaiver thread so shitty in weeks. I thought the worst was over after the first 3 episodes but looks like the shitposters aren't done yet with this show.

It's a shame cause lately kiznaiver threads were really enjoyable
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>>141420816
You fucking idiot, the only people who pretend this show is good are offboarders who don't watch anime and think triggers latest "unique non moeshit show" is good, and those idiots don't lurk /a/ normally.
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>>141428510
What a fucking selfinsertfag you are
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>>141429224
>This show is bad and here's why:
>"WAAH STOP SHITPOSTING"
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>>141429224
>Anyone who disagrees and isn't part of the circlejerk is a shitposter
Ah, you're generalfags. I thought I smelled an extra special kind of faggot.
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>>141428104
tenga deserves a self-insert over a cliche bitch like chidori. at least self-inserts can be whatever you want them to be and look more original than her.
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>>141422517
Because it's only writer (beside Urobutcher) they know
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>>141429619
They don't know about Jun Maeda?
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>>141429529
He should be happy, this is the most people have talked about his shit tier show in weeks
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>>141428146
50/50? Are you fucking blind, it's like 90 to 10
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>>141429521
>>141429529
>This show is bad because I say so, and if you don't agree with me you're a circlejerking faggot
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>>141429696
He's dead
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NEVER DOUBT OKADA.
NEVER DOUBT OKADA.
NEVER DOUBT OKADA.

Kiznaiver is a sincere tale on the exploration regarding human connection; to form a genuine and inexorable bond the seven characters need to excavate into the recess of their subconscious and bleed their hearts unto the other - camaraderie is mutually exclusive and as of now, they are acquaintances. Friendship isn’t like a visual novel, there are no restarts. It take time to build up the mutualness and with each passing episode that is what is occurring, they are building their mutuality. Kiznaiver is not thought-provoking or deep, yet it resonate a powerful meaning: if you open your heart sincerely to someone, they’ll reciprocate and open theirs too.

And, how is that different than any other Trigger anime? In Kill La Kill for Ryuuko to synchronize with Senketsu they needed to have connectivity, exist on each other wavelengths.

You’re wearing your Okada-hate goggles on too tightly, take it easy. Kiznaiver perfectly exemplify Trigger’s thematics. What Kiznaiver ultimately is, is a story of psychological growth.

Trigger trusted Okada and so do I, I have faith in Okada.
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>>141422790
10/10
Poor Kobayashi. The most promising Trigger director wasted on this trash.
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>>141429739
For them they'd rather have 10 people namefagging and blogging than dare have someone criticize their shit taste in anime.
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2deep4u
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>>141430060
The sad part is that some Nevsky handicapped person might actually believe this.
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>>141430446
>this anon has different taste from me, he must be baiting
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>>141430568
Because you are baiting, and it's obvious.
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This show is tedious. All this effort poured into character introductions, backstories, and relationships and they're just slight variations on ancient anime archetypes. The show doesn't even try to hide the fact, it's mentioned in a blase way in the first episode that the characters are walking stereotypes forced to become friends with people outside their clique. That's where the Breakfast Club comparison comes from.

And the sci-fi aspect feels like they tried too hard to reinvent Kokoro Connect and spent way too much time trying to explain it and make it seem plausible. One of the saving graces of KC is that they didn't belabor the plot device that drove the story, so as a result it was mainly focused on character drama and you could almost forget the super contrived premise behind it all. Kiznaiver won't let you forget about it, they keep bringing it up and interrupting character focus for it. And ironically all this attention paid to what should have been a writer's convenience is actually make it less interesting.

So all summed up the sci-fi elements are over-explained and detract from the character focus and the character focus feels half-assed since they're trying to keep the characters as highly marketable anime archetypes. They've hobbled themselves too heavily for this show to take off in any meaningful way. It's not fun to watch, and it's not interesting enough to put up with how unfun it is to figure out the ending.
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>>141430060
The okada meme-hate will never stop, because AHDH /a/utists can't bear 24 minutes of animu in which "nothing happens".
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Thus entire thread is cancer. Why do people shitpost in a thread about an anime they either aren't watching or don't like? Could spend it discussing shows you do like. Seems sad.
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>141429315

Nice try retard but, still not worth a (You).

Not even expecting better considering you're a mongoloid.
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>>141424274
the entirety of 4chan is a hivemind
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>>141429532
But Chidori is cute and sweet. Her only problem is her crush on Kacchon.
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>>141430806
They're not even good at shitposting. They have to went out their frustration at having down syndrome by shitposting on /a/. Leave them be honestly, I'm having a laugh.
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>>141430836
No we're not
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>>141430836
No we're not
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>>141430836
No we're not
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>>141424952
i'm watching cause of tenga to see what other oufits he puts together and hoping he fucking drops several loads in chidori
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>>141427634
<3
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>>141430806
>Discussion is limited to saying you like shitty account
>No negative opinions allowed
Kill yourself

>>141430829
Ok, this made me laugh.
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>>141430880
I like her crush on Kacchon, and I would like see Chidori with him. But they're ruined as always because this typical MC kuudere
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>>141429739
kek we filled 2 threads last time it aired
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>people were expecting good discussion for Kiznaiver
It was doomed because it was made by Trigger. The combination of retarded studio fanboys on /a/ and crossboarders from /v/ guaranteed it'd be shitposted to death. Just the mere fact you had mouthbreathers hyping this as "the latest Trigger anime" is proof of the incredibly stupid fanbase it was attracting. I honest to god saw people acting like this would be another Kill la Kill.
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>>141419385
This.
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>>141419385
With shitty anime like this
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Maki will find a way, believe in her
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>>141431190
this desu

Trigger memehaters and Okada memehaters combined to create the ultimate shitpost machine
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>>141417125
That's a fucking retarded question

What fucking point but being entertainment?
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>>141417125
you mean
>what is the point of majority of animes. they offer nothing
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>>141431933
this guy gets it
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>>141431646
Find a way to be a crazy slut? Yes.
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What I cant understand is how anyone can like any of the girls.

Sonozaki was okay as a jaded bitch who thinks the means always justifies the ends, but she clearly cares and has a backstory with the MC, which could've died several fucking times by now. Even if she ends up ditching the entire kiznaiver project she is still retarded.
Chidori fell in love with an autist who cant pick up clues and decided the best course of action was to never talk to him about it, dooming the relationship without external help. Also forgets every 5 minutes that their pain is shared and punches the MC again just so everyone except him suffers.
Nico was introduced as the retardest but turns out she is the only one with half a brain so far. Her personality is just an unique snowflake facade for the sake of attention whoring though.
Maki is barely worth mentioning before we get her backstory, everything so far is shit.
Homopurple is unrealistic and inconsistent at best. Instead of spreading mousetraps everywhere or whatever to get his surprise pain without much backlash from the others, he casually tries to ax the autist. Didnt even do shit in the test of courage.
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>>141431759
>Hating bad writing is a "meme"
I want /v/ to leave.
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>>141432976
>Using buzzwords like "bad writing"
I want /tv/ to leave.
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>>141417125
>HorribleSubs
fuck off your opinion is invalid
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>>141432877
Sonazaki is okay because she's the most attractive. I eagerly await porn of her.
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>>141432976
>bad writing
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>>141433119
>"bad writing " is a buzzword because I have shit taste
You're silly.

>>141433239
Sorry, "horrible" writing.
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>>141433951
>I can only spout memes because I'm a shit tier shitposter

Rule on the quality of shitposters when?
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>>141432877

Homopurple isn't a girl you cretin.
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>>141433951
If you were a story I would call the fact you weren't aborted shit writing.
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It's another outlet for the writers to complain about modern society while also commenting on Japan's general social issues.

It's like a mecha anime without the mecha.
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>>141432877
Oh, come on, it's not an amazing anime with intersting plot - this show is much worse. So why do you expect something more from characters?
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>>141434046
>anyone I disagree with is a shitposter because no one could possibly not like this show
If rule 6 was enforced, you'd be the first to go.

>>141434105
Stay in school.
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Just started this i am literally 27 seconds into the first episode and what the fuck is wrong with the voice acting?

i have never heard a shittier performance by a seiyuu in my life, holy fuck.
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>>141435445
I think it's an actual kid.
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>>141419999
>>141420876
>>141423519
>>141424868
>>141425075
I agree with these, even the shitposts.

I think most of the problems with Kiznaiver could have been solved by having the characters share more sensations than just pain, which was merely a legacy of its being a fighting anime.

This would have aligned more with its utopian narrative conceit, and might have allowed more commentary on its own pervasive use of archetypes.

Think about it: seven bland characters sharing emotions/sensations throughout 12 episodes until at the end they merge into one somewhat interesting character.

Brilliant.
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Anybody has this?
>>141434040
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>>141434105
jesus christ
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I can't see Trigger trying to do another more like this after that sales
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its suuuper trashy they constantly sexualize the underage characters and make allusions to gross shit for no reason (its only like 4 or 5 eps in and theres already been two sexual assault jokes and a domestic abuse joke and you literally see a character try to r*pe or at least sexually assault another character, fatphobia, gay+hypersexual+mentally ill coding of ~Gross~ character, mentally ill coding of sexual assailant character) also its just horribly written everythings cringey and way too over the top and the overwhelming heterosexuality is super super forced all it has going for it is how nice it looks
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>>141434396
I dont expect decent characters, I just cringe at how low anon's standards have to be to defend the show like this :
>there's so much waifu material in this show i can't even choose which one i like the most
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>>141438235
>cringe
could you kindly press the little X on the top right and never come here again?
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>>141417125
>Announced in Pash
>try hard to bait fujos with seiyuu, S/M, boys living together

>flops, literal yaoishit selling better
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>>141438220
This honestly
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>>141438220
Finally someone with intelligence in this thread.
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>>141438220
The amount of tumblr rage in this post just made me like Kiznaiver more.
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>>141417125

just watched the first 2 chapters.

looks bretty good to me, why is it flopping? everyone is kawaii as fuck
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>>141438220
It sucks because you're right but everyone's going to tell you to go back to tumblr. Like always.
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Killing Trigger
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>>141440986
Kill la Kill merch is the only thing keep trigger alive
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>>141438220
I... Can't disagree.
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>>141440776
Plot is shit. heavy a shit. The plot device of the Kiznavier system seems ridiculous with little defense other than muh peace.
It's not too bad if all you want is high school hijinks, an overly dramatic cast and decent animation. But besides that it's shit
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>>141440776
>chapters
You're retarded, no wonder you like this.
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I don't get how people like Kill la Kill but hate Kiznaiver, it's literally the same shit.
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>>141441265
You make me sick, 0/10
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>>141440776
It's flopping because Japs have shit taste and /a/ is apparently being invaded by Japs
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I hope shitposters realize they're trolling each other because everyone non-retarded has already left this thread.
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>>141438220
>>141439982
>>141440218
>>141440868
>>141441177

>>>/tumblr/
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>>141417125
To be the biggest disappointment of the season.
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>>141441330
Nah, this show is aggressively bad and Japs are getting sick of Okadas shit.
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>>141440986
Nah Imaishi will save it
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>>141417125
>1st episode
>out of context flashbacks trying to be deep
>autist MC
>"seven sins" bullshit

I dunno why I even watched episodes 2 and 3 when I knew it'd be garbage. This is like a worse version of Mekakushit.

Yeah
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>>141424753
you. I like you. I might not be the fan of the show, but you are 100% right about these arguments.
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>>141441244

sorry amigo, mi englando is shit, what's the proper term?
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>>141441021
KLK still selling?
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how much money is going to lose trigger with this /a/?

i'm scared, i love their style
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>>141441330
Found the retard.
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>>141442415
episodes
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>>141442651
Don't worry Mappa had a lot of flops too
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The scene with Kacchon and Chidori was nice and touching, I'm enjoying the character interactions and the humor. I didn't think it would be this funny.
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>>141443639
You are likely autistic
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>>141440868
Tumblr has scat and vomitfags obsessed with Tenga voiding himself, they might be too grossed out to go there.
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>>141443614
Mappa still hasn't had anything but flops.

>>141442651
Bones has more flops than most studios do shows, Mappa and Kinema Citrus still haven't had a single non-flop. Trigger will be fine if they can knock it out of the park with Imaishi's next big show.
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>>141438220
Yet a lot of 4chan hates it, go figure?
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>>141443872
Looks like some people still remember what happened with Manglobe
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>>141417125
How does okada still get work?
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>>141443784
Well posting on /a/ is very autistic, but I'm not judging you.
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>>141443932
Manglobe was around for quite a while despite having nothing but flops. All Trigger needs is to go all in on a new Imaishi original that's at least as internationally popular as TTGL and they will be set for at least 10 years on merchandise and licensing along.
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>>141443987
It would be quite retarded considering you're doing the same thing and having awful taste at the same time
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>>141444311
Your opinion is wrong, and the only cure is to stop breathing.
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>>141417125
Entertainment, just like every show. If you aren't entertained, drop it.
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obviously the show looks great and sounds pretty good, can't deny that.

overall having a good time with the show and characters, but sadly a few signs are showing that while the ride is fun it has a risk of being sadly forgettable down the road.

while the characters are in fact tropy they aren't shitty characters because of their tropes. unless you have some personal or bandwagon trigger to character traits ("hisomu being turned on by pain, oh no it triggers me fucking dropped" - everyone 2 weeks ago).

While shipping characters and making couples isn't a bad thing in itself, I hope this show isn't going to end up with everyone in little cute pairs that panders to people that ship different characters. I hope that the pairings that are made are because the characters are believably developed to liking eachother (like chidori and kachon/tenga, kachon and sonozaki, or maki and yuta). hisomu doesn't bother me but his inclusion and role so far is worrisome, is he a device for kachon to stand up for himself? is he just to awkwardly fill out a couple at the end? dudes taken a backseat for a while now, hope he brings something to the plot or else his inclusion seems pointless.

this faggot just hopes that these characters aren't wasted by the end on just being paired for the sake of pandering.
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>>141420650
But buzzwords and shitposting is all we have chief
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/a/ gets triggered by anything novel
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Having the best Opening in a while for anime.

Joker Game's OP is pretty based too, loving this season so far.
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>>141420306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V4IEV8l-gA
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>>141445956
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
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>immediate cut to the dumbass no-T MC getting lost looking for his childhood friend

i fucking love this show
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>>141448201
parasite inside a worm
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wonder if they start sharing pleasure as well

orgasm doujins when?
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>>141417125
Anon this show probably has more point than most of our lives.
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>>141417642

A good case of great girl trapped in a shit show.

Kiznaiver is boring, pardon me if my analysis is not up to the thread's expectations, but I have no other way to describe it.

Anime no matter what genre is meant to be fun, there is nothing fun happening in here, nothing to really root for and the objective of our cast is ambiguous.

At least Mayoiga has things we can make fun of, this show has nothing.
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