Yahari Oregairu

>>141306084
It's a guy though

>>141306084
he truly is

>>141306122
So what's the problem?

>>141306122
> She's a man cause she has a penis nice meme

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>>141307760
I'd rather his sister

Saika isn't gay. He has a harem.

>>141309987
stop telling that kind of blasphemy, it hurts Saika and affect the relationship with 8man

>>141310051
At best you could call 8man and Saika bisexual.
They're definitely not gay though.

>>141306084
Not a girl.

>>141310385
8man love it

>>141310468
8man is Watari's self insert and Watari literally had sex with 8man's VA.

>>141310574
you again
before was Saika's VA

>>141310662
No, it was always Eguchi.

>>141310802
post link mang

>>141310574
Proof or it didn't hapen

>>141310843
Just flip through the older posts on Watari's twitter. You'll find it.

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>>141308409
>ywn have a cuteboi moan your name in his sleep

Why even go on bros

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>>141310662
I'd marry her to be honest

>>141311066
Saika+Tsugumi
best

>>141311167
Tsugumi is destined to be Raku and Chitoge's mistress. It's literally what she dreams about so good for her I guess.

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I wonder if there are any Kaori X Hachiman Doujins?

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Who is the source of all these clones?

>>141314315
Tragically there are none.

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>>141314354
>Tragically, there are none.

They have an NTR Doujin, but no Kaori X Hachiman Doujin?!???

Happy Birthday Anya.

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>>141314629
No. I'd suck dick for a Orimoto or Yumiko doujin.

Happy Birthday Saika
The true route

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HB!

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>How Ebina must be feeling about now

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So which YYandere will lose it first? Will 8man survive?

>>141317000
Great, now I'm getting flashbacks to reading those Yandere fanfics on FF.net

>8man's interest in Saika's boypussy is so strong Yui and Yukino don't bother with it
I wonder why. They seem to go nuts when girl pussy is near him.

>>141317470
Because they don't realise how much of a thread Totsuka is

>>141317550
*threat

>>141317550
Totsuka Saika thread will be legend once the impending true route
>8man did ask him to his waifu

sweet dream my prince

Post Ebina

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>>141319752

>>141320554
They both have holes, so there is hardly any difference

>>141307760
make my homophobia flare up

http://animaru.jp/shop/e/eoregaiu/
>No birthday merch for Saika
Fuck this gay world

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>>141317000
I'd rather see these two fight over rice krispie treats over an autist and a airhead fight over another autist

>>141321388
not seeing the attraction of that, they'd have to go to lesbian hatesex before I had any interest. but even that would pale in comparison to HachimanXSagami hatesex

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>>141321736
Yep

>>141310179
Then why does Saika keep dreaming about 8man filling his yaoihole with 8man's manmilk?

He even says his name in his sleep in a sultry way
Hell, when he was approached by those dykes in the VN he looked like he was appalled by their sight only to be relieved once 8man arrived to bail him out

And then there's that character song

I really liked Oregairu, and I was expecting /a/ to turn it into waifu wars.
I don't really support a girl in particular, but so far it seems like the Irohafags constitute the most creative fanbase.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0YoUh0SjWc

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>>141320554
They're like elves.

>>141323316

Getting closer little by little
Has the distance (between us) changed as well?
The memories are increasing as well
The new scenery continues on

The time that I spent together with you
I was extremely happy.
Nervously, I was searching for those appropriate words

in order to record down the future I desire.
Our diary continues on~
Whether it’s tomorrow or the day after, I want to laugh (together with you)
I want to hear you say that
I am that special friend of yours

If I read the feelings as the sunlight envelopes (us)
then the sequel to this story
is sure to be colored with your kindness.

Though I am just next to you, why is that I feel so far from you.
I want to be greedy. I wonder why that is so.

I want to be honest with these newborn feelings
I want to be together with you forever.
In the midst of all these casual conversations
I feel a sense of bliss
and I naturally break out into a smile

For example, whenever you feel down
I will be the first to notice it
There’s no need to find an answer immediately
Anyway, let us just be together

So that I can record down the future I desire
Our diary continues on~
Whether it’s tomorrow or the day after, let’s talk together
I want to hear you say that
I am that special friend of yours

>>141324806
Yep, full on faggot. No doubt.

>>141324532
Wasn't there a fanfic of this with elves in it?

>>141324806
Jesus. 8man is a little confidence away from being a Makato tier manslut.

>>141325837
And he could've gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling kids.

I'm starting to think that Yukino going abroad isn't for college, but for her senior year of high school, Toradora style. Based on her character song

> I hugged the stuffed toy tightly
> If I can overcome these countless sleepless nights,
> I wonder if that means I can go and welcome the future as the new us.

I wonder if she's talking there about being separated from him for a lengthy period of time and thinking "if I can get through this, then maybe we can be together after that". Either that or maybe she's referencing Haruno living with her now and giving her grief.

But not just her character song, it feels like there's a few places in the story where she seems ambiguous about not the distant future but the very next year. Like when she discusses her career path and makes a point of saying "We'll be together next year too". She also states that given that she's in the International program, her choice of high school senior year career path doesn't matter very much. But if something about her choice has registered to Yuki-mom as her not wanting to go abroad senior year, then that could explain why she is so upset about it.

Also in the S1 OVA Yui talks about looking forward to the athletic festival next year and Yukino seizes up a bit at that, almost like maybe she's anticipating that she won't be there for it, but she indulges them anyway.

Finally, it feels like the series is shaping up to end right as the senior year is about to begin. There could be an epilogue that's set afterwards, but I have a feeling the ending will be an ambiguous Yukino ending with her leaving to go abroad senior year.

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>>141325938
forgot image

>>141326345
I bet the dungarees kid is the MC of his own dumbfuck school drama story too, look at him

>>141326600
>him

>>141326619
whatever

>>141326659
The answer is in the eyes.
The lashes are too long for it to be a guy.

>>141326692

That and the fact that every other person on the bench is a girl.

>>141326303
Yukino's character song is hopeful and up beat.

>> If I can overcome these countless sleepless nights,

It could mean many things. It could be as simple as her sperging and stressing about whether or not to confess or just getting over her nervousness. We know that Yukino needs to overcome a personal issue so I think that line reflects that rather than whether or not she is going abroad for a year, at all, or for college.

>>141326833

It's cheerful and upbeat, but she's not acting like she's absolutely certain she's getting 8man.

I think the tone of the song more reflects her feelings of having finally kicked her cowardice problem once and for all. Though we don't get to see that at the end of vol 11, it's about to become real right as vol 12 starts. Of course her going for 8man is part of demonstrating the "new Yukino", the change she has undergone is about more than that, which is why her song is gushing overflowing with optimism.

>>141326981
>It's cheerful and upbeat, but she's not acting like she's absolutely certain she's getting 8man.
The point isn't to get 8man, it is to overcome her issues. 8man is just a trigger for it and a major incentive for her.

She isn't certain but it is more upbeat that Yui's song. Ultimately it is 8man's choice and 8man is more than capable of picking no one or Yui.

>>141327115

Well I guess my point is that just as she makes several specific references to things from past volumes, some parts of her song may be specifically referencing things yet to happen and we don't know about them yet. So "countless sleepless nights" could be referring to something that will happen in vol 12. And a distance is the most likely explanation for it I think, though as I mentioned it could be her reacting to Haruno moving in with her.

Also a lot of the lyrics references her wanting to be next to him, imaging that he is next to her, and wanting them to be closer. But of course some of that (especially the last one) could just be romance-speak.

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Watari wrote himself in such a shitty position

Yukino/Yui win
>hack
Iroha win
>cop out
Anyone else
>Dark horse

>>141327299

Well you can always throw one word insults out over anything.

>>141327299
>the main girls who have been developing their feelings towards him for many volumes
>hack
You what?

>>141327333
Fag

>>141327418
I agree that it would be hack writing. No one but MAX COFFEE deserves the win.

>>141327236
I am not saying you aren't right, I think abroad is a real possibility and almost likely. I am just saying that her song is more pure feelings than that.

>could just be romance-speak.
It probably is, it is also reflected in Yui's song and the always forgotten duet.

>>141327501

> the always forgotten duet

Is there anything specific you have managed to draw from the duet? It's not bad by any means but I have never been able to see anything especially meaningful in the lyrics.

>>141327418
>most obvious end
>not a hack

You what?

>>141327581
>wanting something different for the sake of being different

>>141327581

Why do you think that the purpose of an ending is to come as a shock?

The ending needs to be in keeping with the story. It needs to feel like the "right" one. As long as it does this, it is fine.

>>141327581
Why do you faggots care so much about being surprised? No shit, the Greeks sack Troy in the Odyssey.

>>141327576
It mirrors their personal character song on the point that they both want a future with him but are uncertain.

>>141327679
It is sort of like those people who complain about "first girl" winning.

>>141327735

> It mirrors their personal character song on the point that they both want a future with him but are uncertain.

Yeah I agree. I wonder if the "you" in that song is always Hachiman or if they are sometimes addressing each other. And if so, where.

>>141327576
Nit him but it gives me the impression both Yui and Yukino are in love with 8man and seem all in on being with him.

>Be it your truthful thoughts
>Or your bluffs
>I will accept them all and that will become our future
He can't bullshit his way out of what is going on.

>>141328059

Actually if you read that literally it sounds like his bluffs will be accepted too.

>>141328216
Yukino says bluffs and Yui says truthful thoughts. Meaning to me they will accept what he decides even if it isn't what they want.

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>>141326345
>>141326600
>>141326619

labeled, HTH

I am still disillusioned with Yui. I didn't think she was actually okay with a lie and that she wouldn't be fine with anything that netted her Hikki. She was always a good girl to me, pure, and immensely kind.

>>141329669

Yeah turned out she was more like a real human being than a idealized statue of a person.

Yui in ANOTHER and end of vol 11 made herself 1000x more interesting and appealing as a character.

>>141329733
>>141329669
Shouldn't 8man be glad? Yui was never a "nice girl"

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"I understand why he likes this stuff so much"

>>141329792

I dunno if happy or sad. But he definitely understands her better than before.

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>>141306084

This is autism, but I am wondering about the relative ages of the characters.

Birthdays:
8man: August 8th
Yukino: January 3rd
Yui: June 18th
Iroha: April 16th

Does Japanese school work where you start school at the next beginning school year after you reach a certain age, such as 5? That's how it generally works in the US. Since Japanese school traditionally begins on April 1st I believe, then that would make Yukino a little younger than 8man, Yui a tad bit older than 8man. And Iroha would be quite old for her grade level. She would only be 8 months apart from Hachiman. Unless the high school begins past mid-April, in which case she could be really young for her grade level.

I think I got Yukino and Yui right at least, based on their comments from vol 11:

> “The problem is what qualifies someone as younger. Their school year? Birthday? Are they considered younger if their birthday is only a little later…? The definition’s rather vague. I believe we should sort that out first, don’t you think?” Yukinoshita said, blabbering on.
> Yuigahama tapped her hands. “Oh, but hey, Hikki seems like he’d be compatible with an older girl, for sure…! I think, definitely.”

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>>141306084

>>141330421
Yui is the oldest, followed by 8man, then Yukino, and lastly Iroha who is only 3 months younger than Yukino.

>>141330517

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

And Haruno states that she is young for her school level, not quite three years older than Hachiman.

>>141330421
Yui is the oldest and 8man is older than Yukino. Iroha is only three months younger than Yukino. Saika is older than all of them.

>>141330421
You are correct. School year starts 2nd week of April, was the 11th this year. Iroha is one of the oldest in her grade and would have turned 17 like Yui, Hachiman and then Yukino did. As for people in his class, I believe May birthday makes Totsuka oldest of all of them unless I'm forgetting someone.

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>>141315130

>>141329733
It makes her seem crueler than she actually is. She is literally taking advantage of her best friend's problems in order to rope in 8man and make sure Yukino never gets him.

>>141331122

Yui is normally one of the most straightforward to interpret characters in the entire series. Only twice do her actions ever require some consideration to understand. One is the "I'm going to beat Yukinon" resolution she makes in vol 8. The other is at the end of vol 11.

Forcing Yukino's feelings down is something she is willing to accept, judging by her actions in ANOTHER. At the same time it was clearly a bluff, because there was never anything she could do to fix Yukino's problems with her sister, which was the basis for her pressuring Yukino in the first place.

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Did Yuki-mom go to Hachiman and Yukino's wedding? Find out in vol 12.

>>141331423
Yukino's problems with her sister?? that's nothing compared to her problems with her mother, who by the way was the one who sent Haruno to stay in Yukino's apartment.

>>141332822
If Yukino starts showing decision and direction and standing up for what she wants, would Yuki-mom be happy to let her marry whom she wants?

Or is Yukino telling her mother to get fucked, that she won't be manipulated by guilt any more, sufficient?

>>141332989

> that's nothing compared to her problems with her mother,
Yeah but Yui specifically mentioned Yukino's sister, not her mother.

> If Yukino starts showing decision and direction and standing up for what she wants, would Yuki-mom be happy to let her marry whom she wants?

That's kind of the question with Yuki-mom. She is domineering and controlling, but how much of that is how Yukino and Haruno describe her and how much of it a mother trying to do what she thinks best for her daughter, given how she views her daughter? If Yukino is an indecisive coward, why wouldn't Yuki-mom try to steer her down a path that's at least going to lead to success for her? Or is she really just driven by exterior goals and treating her daughters as pawns for it?

Maybe it's a little of both. Or maybe it started out as one and became the other over time. I wonder would Yuki-mom be able to see and accept a changed Yukino, or will she continue to try and view her that way to the bitter end because her opinion is set in stone.

>>141333147
>>141332989

Actually nevermind, Yui does not mention Haruno specifically. She doesn't say anything other than "The problems that Yukinon is facing right now, I know the answer."

8man then thinks about Haruno specifically, but not Yui. I was mistaken.

>>141333372
in LN Hachiman wonders who Yui meant, "What could it be? The relationships with her mom, her sister? It could probably be one of them, then again, it probably would be one of them."

Yukino's real problem though is herself, she feel dragged along without direction or purpose, and coming to a dead end. She has to decide what she wants and go for it.

>>141333959
>She has to decide what she wants and go for it.
One of those things she wants is claimed. Yukino will just have to be enchanted by Hayama and like it.

>>141334375
Yui can't claim Hachiman, she has made no confession and he has not accepted nor made any. In fact she is obviously holding off out of fear of rejection, she doesn't feel close enough to him yet and knows he also has feelings for one other. Once Yukino goes for what she wants, how will Yui compete?

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>>141334528
>Yui can't claim Hachiman
Who said anything about that slut?

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A consideration of Japanese Light Novel covers over the past three decades teaches us that the long haired beautiful but unobtainable girl pictured on the first volume will inevitably become the main character's love partner. QED

>>141331423
You can understand her actions but you don't know how far she is willing to go.

>>141334845
>wrong as expected

>>141334528
Yui won Hikki in ANOTHER she can do it again.

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>>141334796

Yukino is totally on board with the abuse of the mood altering substance in the yellow can. In fact there are at least two times she had the role we used to call "the pusher" back in the day

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>>141334796
synonyms in the controlled substance underworld for people like Yukino include the baglady, the source, connection, supplier, trafficker, peddler, pusher. Beware the allure of the diabetes elixir and the angelic icy beauty who tempts you wielding the golden cylinder! Just Say No!

>>141332822
>no ahoge
That's Rumi, not Yukino.

Why is Yukino pretending to be in love with 8man in ANOTHER? He triggered no flags and has ignored her for weeks. At in the the main series she is dependent on him.

>>141335491
Note Hachiman doesn't have on either, what happened is they both managed to pile on enough mousse to keep their ahoges down for the 25 minute main ceremony, as soon as they exited the chapel there were twin *pops* as the their ahoges returned to their normal full upright and locked positions

>>141335591
ANOTHER presumably has the same common story beforehand, with same flags in past like genuine speech, gift glasses, pink scrunchie gift, DestinyLand....and for shrine visit she is so relaxed and secure around him she falls asleep on his shoulder

>>141335836
Yeah but only thinks she likes him in the main series because she is dependent on him. In ANOTHER she thinks she likes him even though she is not dependent on him.

I am glad Yui didn't pull a Minori like so many people thought. The only way Yukino will get 8man is if she pries him out of Yui's cold dead hands.

>>141329733
>Yui in ANOTHER and end of vol 11 made herself 1000x more interesting and appealing as a character.
How so? She was always appealing to me.

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Just here to post perfection.

I am sure glad Derenon is out of the picture.

Path to a good end for 8man
1. Pretend neither Yui or Yukino is in love with him
2. Avoid any circumstance that might make a flag trigger
3. Quickly change the subject if it starts getting too close to romance
4. Don't flirt with girls in from of them. Komachi and Saika don't count.
5. Don't drink Yukino's tea in the Pan-san cup they gave him. He should make sure he either uses a paper cup and he should hide or destroy the Pan-san cup.

>>141338369
Reddit queen

>>141338369
is sensei cosplaying as the insecure frigid bitch again?

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>>141339342
Reminder Hayama is the high school equivalent of the Antichrist.
First appears perfect
Is a possessive and controlling narcissist
Will superficially solve problems ignoring faults to play the diplomatic hero
Will sacrifice friends to preserve "Muh social status."
The only difference is instead of wanting to get fucked by 8man he wants to get fucked by Haruno.
Do not believe his lies.

>>141342000
What else does 8man have to do to get Yukino running into Pan-sans arms?

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>>141334876
>Yui won Hikki in ANOTHER she can do it again.
Oh you poor poor thing.
You didn't know?

It was all a ruse
Have you really never watched White Album 2?

>>141342000
>The only difference is instead of wanting to get fucked by 8man he wants to get fucked by Haruno.
Actually he wants to see Haruno being fucked and impregnated by 8man.

>>141343314
No. Yukino resolved to bury her feelings in and help Yui have her Hikki and remain her best friend. Yukino will hide what she feels and won't let it out, she is burying it.

>>141342000
What is wrong with not wanting to hurt your fellow clubmates?

>>141343585
Just like WA2!

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>>141324532
nigga....

>>141343598
Yukino won't let it build up and cause her to get depressed and if she does she won't burst. She has skillfully buried what she feels. ANOTHER 8man also cares more about Yui than Yukino so ANOTHER Yukino will just sit in doll mode in the corner until Yukimom marries her off after she finishes college. At least her friends are happy so she gets a nice end.

How does 8man convince Yukino to be his girlfriend? Beg?

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>>141344103
>How does Yukino convince 8man to be her boyfriend? Beg?

Fixed.

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okay i'll just do this ONCE.. =_=

>>141344244
why Saika is much cuter than all the girls?

YESSSS MORE SAKI PLS

>>141343638
>Male
>thicker eyelashes
>thicker lips
>wears lipstick

Okay.

>>141344244
>tumblr gifs
Kill you are self

*yourself

>>141344120
Why would Yukino confess to him? She doesn't fancy him enough for that. She was willing to let Yui just take him after all.

>>141344281
When will Sa-chan confess to Ha-chan?

Is there a Saki route in the new VN? Does that mean she will get romance?

>>141338369
>>141342000
OTP

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>>141344850
>When will Sa-chan confess to Ha-chan?
Never, at least in the LN or anime, in the VN? maybe.

>Is there a Saki route in the new VN?
As it appears that there is going to be a Totsuka route, then I think it's likely that there's going to be a Saki route aswell

>Does that mean she will get romance?
Depends on whether the other routes are going to get romance or not.

Hikki is for Yui only.

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The series can't end in vol12. Chiba still needs the 8man.

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>>141347218
>Hikigaya is for Sensei only

FTFY

>>141347263
Sensei is too old to marry. No sane man would propose to a woman of that age.

Did all the Yukinofags an hero? They have been silent since Yui won ANOTHER.

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>>141347222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CzHFhZFk3g

>>141347431
The overall interest in Yahari has gone down in general. People have been waiting for something genuine for an entire year, instead we got a cop out harem ending. The fatigue is now slowly starting to set in.

>>141347431
>irrelevant side series
>meaning anything to the actual relevant story's canon

>>141347470
ANOTHER was not a harem end, it was a clear Yui win.

>>141347562
You clearly didn't understand what I meant then.

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>>141347464

>>141347464
that fucking voice

>>141306084
So it's canon that Saika has a 14" schlong?

>>141347978
Japan doesn't use inches. It's centimeters, which if you convert to inches turns out to be about 5 +1/2 which is average.

>>141348025
Not in the hentai doujin I just saw.

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>>141348055
Yeah well doujins are weird like that.

>>141347978
Saika has a tiny penis that is cute and feminine

>>141347978
Saika is a cute and feminine buttboi. Please no big dick and bara

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Why is she so cute?

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>>141348660
Because she was the first one to recieve the 8inch

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>>141326303
she's already off the track her mother wants just by going liberal arts rather than science which is the other need the two family businesses (Yukinoshita and Hayama') have besides the legal/liberal arts one. And Hayama is filling that side by his indirect answer to Hachiman during marathon

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>>141344730
Yukino has a problem, that's why she was ready to cave in to Yui though crying at loss of what she really wants. That's her problem

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>>141347222
Chiba's diet member's daughter needs the 8man more. Once she decides to stop being a coward, stop going with the flow, and going for what she wants she'll have the Hachiman.

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>>141350897

Well per Yukino's claim, the choice of liberal arts or science means very little for her, since she is in the International Liberal Arts program to begin with.

I get the feeling that it's all hinting at something deeper in terms of Yukino's plans for the next year.

>>141351532
what happen to this pic?
what have u done ?

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>>141352643
I wonder how much she regrets not accepting the 8inch?

>>141353249

A little, but she's still in denial about it.

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>>141353249
Not a whole lot. She likes him better since she finds his whole loner gimmick hilarious

>>141353477
>She likes him better since she find his whole loner gimmick arousing.

FTFY

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>>141353569
I can't think of a single downside to a Orimoto win

>>141353835
Translation?

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>>141352895
geez sorry, here have a big Yukino instead

>>141354001
she is becoming cartoonish
NO!!

>>141353918
too noisy, energetic and silly for Hachiman. Would make him tired just being with her. basically she's like a Tobe with boobs

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>>141354044
>Tobe with boobs

How is this supposed to be a bad thing?

>>141354175
No dick?

>>141354044
the description sound like Yui and i love it for a gf

>>141354435
Kaori is a Yui who isn't a fucking moron.

>>141354667
Yui isn't a moron. She is just joking and her boobs is virgin fancy but her genkiness will cheer me up

>>141347562
Has volume R been translated yet? Can't find it anywhere.

>>141354725
the girl who lunged at Yukino for a surprise hug in the LN, scaring Yukino who jumped aside, so Yui hit her head on the wall

for the Japanese classic "run melos run", said "oh yeah, it's like really fast!"

can't follow Hachiman and Yukino's conversations when they use "big words"

sorry, your waifu has "intellectual development disability". What they used to call "feeble mindedness" or "mentally retarded".

>>141354979
it's bigger than the other ANOTHER volumes so if FatFluffyFIsh is kind and generous enough to translate might take another 3 weeks or more

>>141355027
stop it, she is a pure and qt.It is her moe aspect.

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>>141355606

What if Oregairu went the Onani Master Kurosawa route?

>>141355606
Oh I'll agree she's cute and pure. But after high school in which Hachiman rejects her she'll do what her kind normally does. Use her body to try to be popular with guys, she'll become the public jerk toy. To be trashy slut is her future

>>141356038
>Onani Master Kurosawa
Who would be the one who picks targets for 8man's loads, would it be Yukino with her sense of justice? Would she have 8man spunk into Yumiko's coils? or give Hayama a bukkuke for not helping her in the past when bullied?

>>141356038
A Sagami end would kill Watari I approve

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>>141356385
Exactly what i was going for. I would be so trolly and hilarious seeing the fandom enraged,throwing curses at him.

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>>141356281
I was thinking of Sagami End but Hayama bukkake End sound hot too.

Where are my brothers?

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Would a Orimoto end be well received? It would be almost Lucasian in it's poetry

>>141356899
Watari should really move into that direction. At this point both the main girls would be too shallow and predictable.I would like to see Orimoto reevaluete 8man as a person and helpessly fall in love with him.

>>141356747
if Sagami were the number four punishment load for the day, would Yukino stand there and mock Hachiman while he worked hard to bring up a fourth shot? Maybe call him "Hikki-no-load-kun" or Hikkijerkinoworki as Sagami was trying to cover herself and crying?

>>141357570
this is what she deserve, also for Yumiko and Hayama

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>>141358412
DELETE THESE

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>>141358323

Damn Yukino really looks like shit in s2.

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>>141358458
No

>>141358736
Why is he wearing a dog collar?

dafuq is an acceletor and dafuq doing with 8man?

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>>141358743
Why is he getting married to himself?

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>>141358796
>Being idiots

You should go kill yourselves.
The one who designed the S2 art is the same as the guy who designed Raildex you faggots

>>141358776
It's called a choker faggot
Plus it lets him connect to the internet in his head.

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Looking for random fanart can get you weird things.

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>>141359162
Very weird fan art.

>>141351033
Dd Yukino really understand what Yui wanted? Why did Yukino even respond so overwhelmingly negative to it?

>>141359823
seriously, live animation is better off with the veteran Korea, rmb the Boys Over Flower?
Korean version >>>>>>>>>>>>> Taiwan version

Yui is a kind, sweet girl that would never trample other people's feelings just to get what she wants. She joined the club because she respected and enjoyed the way Yukino and 8man were and not because it gave her an excuse to interact with 8man. Everything she has done has been out of kindness and she wants genuine just like 8man does.

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What would the girls do when they learn that Hachiman is gay?

>>141308331
Just because he has a warm hole doesn't mean you should fuck it.

>>141361231
They know he is. They just ignore it. YY just try to make sure that no other girl gets near him and defers to Saika. They know they can't be his #1 but they can be his #1 girl.

>>141359644
Yes she understood Yui was proposing to cut her off from a future with 8man in it. Note Yui would be alright controlling Yukino's future in this way.

>>141356899
I mean, I could see how Orimoto and even Haruno endings could technically work. One's the 'start' of 8man's story and the other is just female older 8man being painted as a villain. Both could be nice (not likely at all for obvious reasons, but still nice)

>>141359487
>Implying 8man wouldn't summon redman

>>141361733
Lies. Yui isn't cruel or mean.

Yukino could have a future as 8man's friend and clubmate.

>>141362689
>Being a faggot
Yui just go kill yourself already. That delusion of yours is very unhealthy.

>>141361733

Yeah I think we can all agree at this point that Yui is basically Cruella De Vil.

Seeing Yukino in tears was delightful to her. She didn't join the club to get 8man, she did it specifically because she wanted to see Yukino hurt.

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>>141362295
I never got the feeling of Haruno as a older 8man with a vagina.

>>141363334
Yui is a nice girl. She was only trying to help Yukino out.

>>141361733
not saying she was cruel, it's normal and OK to be selfish in getting a man. She did try to take Yukino out of that picture though still wants her to be friends. She's afraid of the way it might go down if everything done "normally", club might dissolve or problem with Yukino might develop

>>141363337
didn't hurt Yui as much as thought of club dissolving in present and Yukino having chance at Hachiman. OK to be selfish in love; someone, maybe more than one, is going to get hurt anway.

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>>141362295
Hachiman is aware of how Haruno is trying to look out for Yukino in her own way, right? I would've thought that he'd sympathise with her to some extent, what with how he's an over-protective older sibling himself and all

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>>141363572
>"I gave you your shot bitch now it is time to stand down. Hikki is my my Hikki and you won't have him. If I don't get him no one will."

>>141363978

Pure unadulterated evil. Satan himself would blush at Yui's gaze. When she dies she'll be sent to the very lowest level of hell and encased in ice for eternity.

>>141363978
Once Yukino starts going for what she wants in life (her major problem), there is no way Yui stop or intimidate Yukino into not pursuing Hachiman. I think Yui is in for some heavy suffering.

>>141363503
>it's normal and OK to be selfish in getting a man.
To Yukislut maybe but not Yui. Yui is pure and precious. We are misunderstanding her if we think she would have been okay with her proposal.

>>141363461
Like I care about that, faggot.

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>>141364208

You need to see the truth, man. Yui's lies, wheels, and deceptions run deep. For the sake if your immortal soul, break free from her illusions and embrace the pure Yuki-light.

>>141364189
Yeah but Yui can win though. if 8man prefers Yui then Yui gets her Hikki. It works out, even if Yukino fails at getting 8man it will be a good experience for her.

>>141364377

Yukino has been rejected in the past.

Yui has never been rejected. She's the one who needs to freel broken hearted for a 'good life experience'.

>>141364578
>Yukino has been rejected in the past.
And? The value in going after 8man is going after something she wants. Even if she doesn't succeed in getting him she is a winner.

>Yui has never been rejected. She's the one who needs to freel broken hearted for a 'good life experience'.
We don't know if Yui has ever been rejected before. It doesn't help/hurt either girl to win or lose the 8bowl. It is just something they both want.

>>141364735

It's not enough for Yukino to merely "go after" what she wants. If she tries and fails, there's no gain to her self confidence.

She has to succeed. She will win the 8bowl. Furthermore, it's not like there's any reason whatsoever in the main story to believe Yui has even a shred of a chance. ANOTHER had one asspull after another in Yui's favor and she still only won because Yukino gave in to her cowardice forever.

Why are Yuifags even still in these threads? Your girl got her ending, as flawed as it may be.

There's nothing left for you in this series now but pain and heartache.

>>141364827
If she fails at getting 8man she won't revert. The value in her going after what she wants is a change in her. Failure is one thing holding her back so if Yukino goes after him whther or not she gets him is not important. 8man can be a package of chocolates or a stuffed animal for all it matters.

I do think Yukino will win but I don't think winning the 8bowl matters in the grand scheme of things. The only important part is that he is something she wants but isn't supposed to have.

>>141364957
>pain and heartache
that is why i watch this series

>>141364957
Yui end was not flawed. 8man cared a lot about her and she loves him. Yukino got a friends end so even she got a good end.

>>141365040

It doesn't work that way. She lacks confidence and courage. She musters up some confidence and courage and goes for what she wants, but splatters onto the ground in failure anyway. She reasons "well I got blown the fuck out, but at least I tried" and is all better after that.

It's silly.

>>141365089

Yukino "accepted this cowardly side of me". She gave in to doll mode, forever. It was a devastating ending for her, enabled by her unhealthy relationship with her "best friend" who obviously cares nothing about her friend's happiness or well-being as long as she gets the beau she wants.

ANOTHER is a cautionary tale. The three service club members abandon genuine, Yukino the most of all. They preserve a shallow, meaningless, Hayama-tier "friendship" at the cost of Yukino's dignity, self respect, and future.

The main series won't go the same way, the service club which Hachiman refers to as a ruinous "detestable combination of us" in his character song, will end. At least one of them will go their own way, but all will be better people in the end for it.

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>>141365121
>She lacks confidence and courage
And going for 8man helps her overcome that. If she pursues him then that is a step in the right direction. It is this step that is the most crucial.

> She reasons "well I got blown the fuck out, but at least I tried" and is all better after that.
If he rejects her she will get a little bit upset but she will still have the club with him, as her friend, and her friend Yui. It will teach her that being rejected is okay and not the end of the world. The action in going after 8man is the most important thing for her development. 8man's feelings are his own however.

>>141365215
Yukino willingly helped Yui get 8man. Yukino made that choice to pick friendship over her crush.

>I share a birthday with best girl
Nice

>>141365336
Yui and 8man have no idea what, if anything, is wrong with Yukino. They aren't preserving a superficial anything because as far as Yui knows Yukino gave up on 8man and 8man isn't particularly interested in her. Yui and 8man's romance is emerging sweetly. It isn't some Hayama-tier shit with feelings held hostage.

>>141365663

> It will teach her that being rejected is okay and not the end of the world.
She already knows that. She has been "not chosen" before per Haruno.

Yukino has to learn that she can go for what she wants AND succeed. Otherwise it's all for nothing.

This is like the debate over whether a "happy" loner ending can happen. People say "well Hachiman might be alone after it's all over but he learned a lot so it's all good". But that's dumb. Hachiman has to learn that going for what he wants can lead not just to ruin (which is 100% what he expects, that and nothing else) but also to what he wishes for. To do so, he HAS to not be alone at the end. Anything else is a failure.

> Yukino made that choice to pick friendship over her crush.

So the fact that Yukino made the choice makes it all alright. There was no reason, then, for Yui or Yukino to have a problem with Hachiman rotten methods earlier in the series. He debases himself to preserve the happiness of others. How is what Yukino did at the end of ANOTHER any different?

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What are the chances they are still friends after vol 12? Good I hope, I always ship Yui and Yukino. The club will survive because both girls will want to be his friend regardless of his actions/choice.

>>141365848

Very low.

>>141365752

> It isn't some Hayama-tier shit with feelings held hostage.

For Yui/8man at least. For their buried-under-the-snow friend things didn't go so well.

One thing that troubles me in ANOTHER is that Yukino doesn't imply she will stop having her feelings, she just says she will hide them a bury them.

>>141365865
They can share Pan-san.

>>141365946

Romantic feelings (or any feelings really) aren't a light switch. She can't just decide "I won't like him anymore". They have to fade, gradually. Seeing him constantly on the arm of her so-called best friend won't help matters though.

>>141366039
>so-called best friend
Yui cares a lot about Yukino and values her friendship. Just because she wants her Hikki you shouldn't demonize her.

>won't help matters though
She will see that he has moved on and is happy and that she should do the same. It might encourage her to get a boyfriend if they seem happy.

>They have to fade, gradually
They will. Seeing him everyday won't ignite anything and you are high if you think Yui would let them be in the same room together by themselves.

>>141314354
fucking chinks they can't even design characters properly so they use the same pattern for 3 different characters lmao

>>141366247

> values her friendship

But not her feelings, apparently.

> Seeing him everyday won't ignite anything

Comical.

>>141365215
>It was a devastating ending for her
We don't know that until vol 12 comes out. Those recipes might be overstating things. Without them there doesn't seem to be anything wrong.

>>141366317
>But not her feelings, apparently.
Yukino gave them up as far as Yui knows. Yui knows it is unfair but will take what is rightfully hers.

>Comical.
Yukino could always confess in a fit of tears later. Maybe she can secretly hope they break up and feel bad for wanting that.

>>141364827
But that is not her most important issue, taking control of her life is, including dealing with manipulative and crushing family. She can fix that without having particular high school boy friend. Hachiman is optional!

>>141366465

> Hachiman is optional!

He is now and throughout the series the impetus for her to act. The focal point for everything. He is most certainly not optional.

>>141366397

Vol 12 is not part of ANOTHER. It has nothing to do with it. Unless vol 12 reveals that Yukino's entire problem with her mom, sister, everything is a lie, she is perfectly fine all along, and it was all a huge acting job to try and help Hachiman as Sensei requested at the beginning of the series.

>>141366639
>It has nothing to do with it.
What if vol 12 reveals that Yukino swallowing her feelings and hiding everything from Yui and 8man was a bad move that leads to Yukino shipped to a university she doesn't want to be in, studying something she doesn't want, and after that marrying someone she doesn't love and holding a job her mother wants. Would it affect the way you view ANOTHER?

>it was all a huge acting job to try and help Hachiman as Sensei requested at the beginning of the series.
She really can do anything perfectly. The perfect girl. Maybe Yui was pretending to not be nice and really is a nice girl.

>>141366597
Getting 8man is optional. He means something to her and that is his value to her.

>>141366448

> Yukino could always confess in a fit of tears later. Maybe she can secretly hope they break up and feel bad for wanting that.

That would be great. If she hadn't accepted her cowardly side per her recipe and be headed down the road to perma-doll mode, I'd say she could subtly undermine the relationship until they break up, then swoop in and claim him.

But that's more of an Iroha tactic.

>>141366864

> Getting 8man is optional.

It's not, but the argument is pointless because she's going to win anyway. So it'll never get resolved.

>>141366864

The only way vol 12 could reveal that is if vol 12 does basically the same thing ANOTHER does, except carries the story on further. Again, vol 12 is not a sequel to ANOTHER but to the main story. It's going to follow a different path.

But, to your example, it would make the two stories identical, because that's exactly what is going to happen down the road in ANOTHER.

>>141366904
Breaking away from expectations and going after what you want is meaningful by itself. What if 8man just randomly asks her out and she says yes. Nothing further happens. Does that help Yukino in any way? She has 8man but that isn't what she needs.

>>141366981
>It's going to follow a different path.
Harunon wins? Vol 12 could give us context on whether or not ANOTHER was Yukino's meh end or bad end. ANOTHER gave us some context on things in the main series.

>>141367157

> Does that help Yukino in any way?
No, but it's not really about succeeding in winning 8man's affection. It's about getting him one way or the other, then succeeding against her mother and family to hold on to him because he's important to her.

> Vol 12 could give us context on whether or not ANOTHER was Yukino's meh end or bad end
Maybe, but what >>141366864 suggested was just ANOTHER repackaged. Yukino swallowing her feelings. All that he proposed was carrying it on further to show just how bad it was. So it wouldn't affect anyone's view of ANOTHER. It would just be the same outcome twice.

A better way to imagine vol 12 is if she does not swallow her feelings but aggressively pursues them. If it leads to an even worse outcome than ANOTHER, then the implication would be that 'genuine' is not a thing to be desired at all.

>>141367272
>then the implication would be that 'genuine' is not a thing to be desired at all.
I would find that really interesting personally.

>suggested was just ANOTHER repackaged
>All that he proposed was carrying it on further to show just how bad it was.
The story can imply that it will go down that path if Yukino buries herself in snow, as a hypothetical.

>So it wouldn't affect anyone's view of ANOTHER
I am not saying the same thing will happen, just that the ANOTHER afterstory can be implied to not be sunshine and roses. That would change a few people's perspective on ANOTHER. 2ch is still calling ANOTHER Yui's clean and perfect end without any sarcasm.

>It's about getting him one way or the other, then succeeding against her mother and family to hold on to him because he's important to her.
8man is not the focal point then, he is just an incentive.

>A better way to imagine vol 12 is if she does not swallow her feelings but aggressively pursues them.
I hope she can become good friends with Yumiko or someone else because I don't see Yui sitting in the corner like Yukino will in ANOTHER.

>>141367637

> I don't see Yui sitting in the corner like Yukino will in ANOTHER

I don't think she will either, but I am not convinced that Yui will leave Yukino's friendship if Yukino and 8man get together, even though that's exactly what she did early in the series when she misunderstood them. She has swore to Haruno in vol 5 that she won't get jealous of Yukino and leave. That she'll be different than other girls. We shall see.

> I would find that really interesting personally.
Eh, I don't think so.

> 8man is not the focal point then, he is just an incentive.
I guess you could say he's both. He is the impetus for her to act. He's the reason she would stand up for what she wants in the first place. Without him, I don't see a lot of motivation for her, especially at the early going.

i wonder do you guys write and build your own archive beforehand.

>>141367637

> just that the ANOTHER afterstory can be implied to not be sunshine and roses
All we will ever have to go on with ANOTHER most likely is interpretation. He left it vague on purpose.

It's a "happy" Yui end on the surface, but he left enough ambiguity to leave doubts about Yukino in particular. I've no doubt that was his intention. In my opinion, expecting both Yukino to be OK in ANOTHER and stay Yui's friend is wishful thinking. One or the other perhaps, but not both. However I can't prove it and no one can prove otherwise either.

> 2ch is still calling ANOTHER Yui's clean and perfect end without any sarcasm.
Isn't that place Yuifag central? I remember it being stated here before that it is.

>>141367773
>Without him, I don't see a lot of motivation for her,
Hayama is a cuck bro. Would you want to marry a cuck? Maybe someone else down the line may help her or maybe when she has her back against the wall she can help herself.

>We shall see.
I think it is a given that Yui will disown 8man in any case.

>Eh, I don't think so.
I think it will be novel if explored and written well. We know 8man thinks that trying for something genuine means he will get nothing.

>>141367927
>but he left enough ambiguity to leave doubts about Yukino in particular.
Vol 12 hasn't been released and WW didn't want to give Yukino an obvious bad end, just an implied one.

>expecting both Yukino to be OK in ANOTHER and stay Yui's friend is wishful thinking.
This make me feel bad. I am starting to think 8man is a huge wall between them. He needs to be torn down before their friendship can flourish.

>Isn't that place Yuifag central?
Yeah but there are Yukinofags and Irohafags. They don't seem to see anything wrong with ANOTHER like here. 2ch isn't the best place for discussion, it is mostly for shouting off one liners and wishful thinking.

>>141368035

> We know 8man thinks that trying for something genuine means he will get nothing.
His sour attitude is the reason for that. But his expectations are constantly foiled in the series. That's almost of the main thrust of his character at this point: how wrong he is all the time. To have this final expectation prove true would feel like a betrayal of the story and make it all seem worthless.

> Maybe someone else down the line may help her
I think that's the best outcome for her in ANOTHER as Sensei alludes to in vol 9. Someone else could cross the line and help her, it doesn't have to be Hachiman. But in the main story, it's going to be Hachiman.

> I think it is a given that Yui will disown 8man in any case.
I think she would distance herself from both, but after some time has passed she could return to Yukino and then, even later on, Hachiman. Feelings do dissipate eventually. This is true for Yukino in ANOTHER too, but in her case the fact that she never acted on her feelings given her personal issues lends an even more bitter note to it.

>>141367272
You are too focused on 8man. If Yukino can take charge of her life against her family that's a huge win with lasting benefits. Doesn't matter if she has boyfriend now. It does matter if Hachiman can overcome his remaining problem but doesn't need girlfriend for that.

Romance is only a bonus, Yukino and Hachiman solving their main issues is the main thing.

>>141368268

> This make me feel bad.
Well like I said, I can't really prove it.

But it feels natural to me that what transpired between Yui and Yukino at the end of ANOTHER demonstrates a certain shallowness to their friendship. Consideration is only one way for them: Yukino towards Yui. Yui shows that she either doesn't care about Yukino's feelings or that she is woefully lacking in understanding of her friend. And there's little reason to think that she will come to understand her better. Add in Hachiman's presence and you can easily imagine Yukino drifting apart from the other two.

>>141368465

What I am saying is that you can't separate Yukino's wish to be with Hachiman from her standing up to her family because he is the very motivation for her to act in the first place. She doesn't have any courage otherwise. Over time, she will develop that courage.

I agree that her taking charge of her life is most important in the overall view, but in terms of the structure of the story she is going to act because of him.

>>141368475
eh, Yui was the only one that held the club together through worst times. Her name means to tie or bind. She did refuse to walk home with Hachiman after Yukino's mother came because "not fair". She also brought Yukino to date out of fairness out of awareness of her feelings. That said, she started to play hardball at the end but she has given Yukino some time to "catch up" in reaching to Hachiman.

>>141368586

I was talking about ANOTHER here >>141368475.

Yui doesn't show that same consideration for Yukino in ANOTHER, but at the same time she doesn't understand Yukino as well there either. As I said, there is a certain shallowness between them that may not be present in the main story.

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can someone explain to me what happens in the LNs after the anime

i am desperate

>>141368572
Her own career path choice also not a motivation? Her family wanting her to go sciences I believe is against her nature even though she can do well at anything; she is not a science lover / science geek. She sits and reads classical literature for hours

>>141368664
Just read them

>>141368664
the anime adapted all the LN up to vol. 11 which ends with same Yukino request cliffhanger. We're all dying to know what happens next, bro

>>141368842
Yes but the AU end gives a hint that Yui will win and everything will be perfect.

Real talk though, ANOTHER kind of shits on the theory that a Yui end is a perfectly happy one with nothing bad.

>>141368842
oh, i was confused and thought it only went to 9

thanks

>>141368664

Yui's head explodes randomly in the service club one day. Hachiman and Yukino feed on her brains until they turn into zombies, Yukino devours Haruno, the two of them start attacking everyone in the school turning them into zombies until Hayama, Tobe, Ooka, and Yamato grab shotguns and shoot their way through the school until the zombies are dead. Hayama chases zombie Yukino to the roof of the school where she begs for her life with the voice of Haruno and wearing her skin but Hayama shows her no mercy.

Afterwards all the survivors cheer Hayama on with that asinine cheer they like to use for him and he mounts Hachiman's head on his wall.

>>141368781

If her career path is motivation, it hasn't seemed so for a long time because whatever issue she has with it has always existed yet she's done nothing but drift aimlessly until Hachiman came into her life and starting giving her a reason to do things.

It's the same thing now. She has things she wants, but she'll never stand up for them on their own. But if Hachiman is the reason for her to act, if she wants to be with him and has a chance, then she will do it.

>>141368943
go back to 2ch, CUNT

>>141369000
>But if Hachiman is the reason for her to act
8man is still an excuse and a reason to do something. Let's just say 8man walks up to her tomorrow and tells her he doesn't like her romantically in any capacity and he will never date her or be linked to her somehow romantically. He goes on an says that her affection for him is annoying and she should stop. Does Yukino still try to act against her mother? If she is only running for a carrot on the end of a stick she isn't really running.

>>141369152

> Does Yukino still try to act against her mother?
I don't think she does. At least not in the timespan vol 12 is likely to encompass. Maybe down the road she gets a new motivation.

>>141369196
Then you can't really say that she is doing it for herself. 8man is a reason outside of herself to act, she needs an internal reason.

>>141369000
Hachiman can inspire her to act so she does, even though later he doesn't become her boyfriend. Hachiman inspired Iroha to act, but she will never be Hachiman's boyfriend though could be friend for life as Senpai/Kohai relationship sometimes happens

>>141369196
I think it is very possible Yukino negotiates a different path for her life than what her mother wants, either for subject matter or where the courses taken

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>>141354030
oh you like realistic Yukino rather than cartoon Yukino?

>>141369272

Her feelings for him are internal. She wants to be with him, that's doing it for herself, it's not like Yuki-mom is a threat to Hachiman.

He is part of the future she desires. That future includes everything else as well, but he is still the motivation. Otherwise, why would she ever act when she never did before outside of getting her own place?

>>141369415

Well to be fair, I am not predicting a Yukino/Hachiman end per se, but I think Yukino holding out for Hachiman is going to be there the whole time. At the very end, it may or may not happen.

>>141369528

> I am not predicting a Yukino/Hachiman end per se

To clarify, I think the story may or may not end with Yukino/Hachiman relationship. But other girls will go down beforehand leaving only the possibility of Yukino/Hachiman. A possibility that may or may not actually occur.

>>141369585
oh I agree she'll try to go for Hachiman as part of what she wants, and it will be up to him. I also believe they have ally against Yuki-mom, Haruno.

>>141369152
>Let's just say 8man walks up to her tomorrow and tells her he doesn't like her romantically in any capacity and he will never date her or be linked to her somehow romantically. He goes on an says that her affection for him is annoying and she should stop.
That is fucking devastating. That would stop anyone to hear that from someone you like. Even Yukino would probably get really depressed over it. Her self esteem and any sort of self confidence will be destroyed.

>>141369641
What if he actually doesn't like her that way? I want WW to show us she will be fine, like have 8man reject her and show us that it doesn't mean much to her because her trajectory is on the up and up. She can get a much better guy who doesn't have rotten eyes and philosophies. 8man will be fine with Yui.

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>>141369152
>>141369653

>>141369653

Yeah that shit would leave Yukino mindbroken. She is just barely starting to turn it around at the end of vol 11. After that you'd have to check her wrists daily.

>>141369754
As fascinated and obsessed and worried about her as Hachiman is, that is some high degree of platonic love for a friend going there if he doesn't love her romantically.

>>141369845
Maybe 8man will decide she actually doesn't like him and will preemptively prevent them from ever breaking up by never dating her. She doesn't know her feelings are real.

>>141368326
>But his expectations are constantly foiled in the series
He was right about Yukino being strong and perfect. He was right about Yui being nice.

>>141370014

> She doesn't know her feelings are real.
She knows her own feelings perfectly fine. What she doesn't know is whether he will reciprocate.

Her character song,
> Everything that you have ever said, I remember it all

He told her to the effect at the very beginning of the series that he'd never like her that way. For all we know she's still hung up on that. Yukino, unlike us, isn't aware of how all of 8man's proclamations and expectations are wrong.

>>141370133
she asked at the beginning if he liked her, after telling him how all boys around her would come to like her. He said no. I don't think that has any bearing on present. I'm pretty sure they both know that they don't dislike each other in the present as they did at first

>>141370133
That is a typo. I meant to say "He doesn't know her feelings are real."

>What she doesn't know is whether he will reciprocate.
Well yeah, he has his Yui after all.

>For all we know she's still hung up on that.
That would kind of funny if that off hand comment by 8man actually has paralyzed Yukino this many volumes later. She needs to make him beg for her.

Yukino's only shot is to make 8man want her more than logic.

>>141370266
>>141370212

Yeah you're right, that's not it.

Still I wonder about that line from her song. Maybe she's referencing his repeatedly offering to be her friend.

>>141370408
Maybe his presence is so fun to her that she values their time together to the point where not a second of it is trivial. 8man says lots of shit, like that one time he said that even he wanted a GF in high school. That one seemed to have piqued her interest.

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"Onii-chan, can you go lower please?"

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Will she finally be wearing something other than a kimono in vol 12?

I kinda wish the yakuza thing was true and she'll take off her kimono in front of 8man and be covered in tattoos.