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You are given the magical chance to save anime. How do you do

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You are given the magical chance to save anime. How do you do it?

Also someone just post keit-ai already so we can move on.
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>>141147183
3rd nuke
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>>141147183

Battle Shonuen with Openly Gay Protag
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>>141147252
This.
Not gonna lie, the west would need to have some major impact over the japs for them to make something worthwhile. They're so into their comfort zone now that they don't even try to experiment anymore.
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>>141147183
Anime adaptations of famous Western Literature
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A weekly wrestling show with the Kinnikuman characters, with feuds, championship battles and all the wrestling staples.
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An anime about adults taking responsability, learning to cope with reality and encouraging neets to work, wrapped in a psychological story disguised as a harem show
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Get KyoAni and XEBEC together to make the ultimate ecchi show. Get Production IG and Bones together to make some original sci shows. Slap Madhouse and Toei upside the head to stop making crappy remakes and do something original. Get Junichi Sato to make new Mahou Shoujo series and to revive Slayers.
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Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
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>>141147300
tried and failed with Jojo
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>>141147183
BattleHarem based in a highschool with a useless MC. All 30 chicks in his class are Tsundere.
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>>141147409
Starship Troopers anime was pretty solid, I think that a Dune adaptation would be cool.
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>>141147252
>>141147352

Use your heads. Two nukes CAUSED anime. Another one would just make things worse.
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>>141147183
if you wanna save anime stop watching shows just because of the hot girl
she's just a cartoon and you can get your rocks off to better things more tailored to your own liking
there's been an influx of shit shows which are only good because of the well-endowed girl doing suggestive things
studios aren't even trying to make good things because they know most otaku fags will watch it anyways if there is a no-depth girl doing fun things
if this is what most people want then let it happen, fine by me. but if you want to "save" anime then this is the only path
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>>141149478
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>>141147183
KyoAni adapt Girl Friends.

Madhouse adapt Franken Fran.

Trigger banned from doing anything other than short comedy skits.
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>>141149923
>you can get your rocks off to better things more tailored to your own liking
Not really.
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>>141147409
I don't know why this isn't more common.
There are a lot of LN and VN that get an adaption, butt books very rarely, and by that I mean that it's probably heavily inspired or a spiritual sequel, not real adaption,.
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An anime written together by Tomino, Okada, and Okouchi.
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>>141148198
This is dumb. XEBEC has almost never made a good ecchi, and almost never made a bad sci-fi show. Madhouse has done like one remake this decade. And Toei has pretty much no relation t saving the industry, they run off of the children's market, which is a completely different thing.
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>>141150013
Because the company that published a given Western novel decades ago isn't likely to have any desire to help fund an anime adaptation.
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>>141147659
Sounds like a typical noir drama.
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>>141147183

Hostile takeover of Aniplex, fire all the producers, close it down
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>>141147183
anime adaption of GoT
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>>141150119
pls no
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>>141147659

They sort of made that back in 2006, it was called Welcome to The NHK. A show like that would never get made now since it goes against the prime directive of flattering otaku and inflating their egos that their lifestyle and choices are the greatest on the planet
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Make an anime about Japanese Military in WW2
They are the main antagonist faction
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Adapt cheesy 80s b-movie and exploitation shit. We need more killer frisbees and blowing up blowup dolls with rocket launchers.
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>>141150146
I think I may have unironically wished for this back before it got adapted.
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>>141148337
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>>141150173
This is literally the last thing anime needs.
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>>141150201
But the executives and otakus will eat it up. Who doesn't love big breasted blonde girls fucking shit up?
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>>141150109
Aniplex usually provides their creators with a fairly large amount of autonomy. By getting rid of them, you're just making it so that a lot of creative endeavors would go without proper funding.
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>>141147183

Shoot up KyoAni
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>>141147183
I do nothing? I mean, I don't see anything wrong, so I probably shouldn't try to "save" it without knowing what's going on, or I'll just fuck it up.
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>>141149889

No, it was the subsequnt occupation and the reconstruction of Japanese socity into something actually functional that caused anime. The nukes only caused that by preventing any further (much more destructive) firebombing, or the war of anniliation that an invasion would have been (a 'prepared' force of five million soldiers of varying quality and more than thirty of civilian milita. Out of a population of seventy million).
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>>141149747
>Dune adaptation would be cool.

Yeah, but how would you get funding for the part that would wind up totaling a full cour of exposition?
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Let directors come up with their own projects and they're provided infinite funding for their ideas. Voila, an endless stream of auteur works, thanks magic.
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It's getting better and better lately. Finally recovering from moe blob hell. SAO's legacy is the only good thing about the show, ushering in a bunch of game themed/centered shows, and since most people who watch anime also play games it's a good fit. Comedy has finally evolved past the point where
>AHAHAHA HE SCARED OF BOOBS
>AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA PANTIES SURE DO EXIST
is the peak of comedy. I had literally never laughed at an anime until about a year or two ago despite watching much more when I was young.
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>>141150459
Wasn't that how New Hollywood fell?
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>>141147183
Keit-Ai adaptation by Trigger.
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Sabotage the LN market and stop anime adaptations of LNs.
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>>141150469
>ushering in a bunch of game themed/centered shows
How in any possible universe is this a good thing.
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>>141150459
>infinite funding

And from where shall this infinite funding flow, and how will you avoid winding up with nothing but bizarre fetish porn?
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>>141150594
You have now replaced the 1/10 of the market composed of LN adaptations with some bad ecchi manga adaptations instead. You had a chance to save the industry and you wasted it chasing an irrelevant boogieman.
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>>141150609

Compared to moeblob? There might be a case to me made.
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>>141150611
OP said magic.
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>>141150469
>SAO's legacy is the only good thing about the show, ushering in a bunch of game themed/centered shows, and since most people who watch anime also play games it's a good fit.

You've lost your mind. Video game writing is the absolute nadir of storytelling, if there's one thing in the world anime can't learn from, it's games.

I would fix anime by banning both light novels and light novel adaptations.
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>>141150506
I don't really know film, I figured television killed it or something.

>>141150611
Well it's a magic chance so I can do whatever I want, yeah? And fetish porn will get made but so will everything else, that's the fun of it. Basically letting the artist create art for its own sake as opposed to commercial ends, while maintaining financial compensation.
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>>141150673
I'm not saying it has to be written like a movie. I just like stuff like boob ribbon goddess and explosion loli. Themes anon. Shit's easy to understand and recognizable at a glance, and it's fun. It'll get tired pretty soon but for now I enjoy it.
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>>141150633
Bad LNs to bad manga is still a pretty significant improvement
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>>141150639
Jesus Christ no. You have taste worse than an ANN reviewer.

And I'm guessing you're some retard who prefers "manly" shit because you find """moeblob""" pathetic. People who are into video game shit are far more pathetic due to the fact that it's made for self-inserting.
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>>141150689
That was the fall of the studio system. New Hollywood fell because you had auteur directors spending exorbitant amounts of money on pet projects that ultimately bombed, along with the introduction of the modern blockbuster.
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Anime is already saved, maybe you guys have shit taste.
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Jumpstart the toy market overseas, do everything to encourage more people to buy gunpla, action figures, transformation trinkets. Anything to say "SEE JAPAN! GAIJIN EAT YOUR PLASTIC SHIT UP!"
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>>141150731
Not really.
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>>141150757

Eh, the possibility exists to tell a good story in the vidya gaem setting - it usually doesn't happen, but the idea of dramatic tension and complex characters isn't precluded by the core of the story.

The way I see it, SAO did three things well. First of all, it offered a lot of fleeting glimpses of what could have been, if it wasn't cancerous as shit. Second, it launched a thousand imitators and formed the genre. Last, it did really well and illustrated that the best way to make a successful story in the genre was to make it terrible.

So, the possibility exists. Moeblob, however, is to dependent on the superficial and trivial to coexist with strong storytelling.
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>>141147183
Support directors who produce original works and convince the industry that us Westerners have superior taste than their idol-worshiping cucked countrymen.
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>>141150931
>he thinks some cartoon stories about guys fighting with swords aren't naturally trivial
Nothing about even a good adventure or action series is any more substantial than a good SoL.
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Animators with a grasp of anatomy and natural movement.
Greater reliance on storyboarding and good direction as a means of communicating a story.
Bigger budgets and longer timeframes.
Longer-term investment.
Decent and competitive options for streaming or legal purchase of video files with an emphasis on video and audio quality.
More CGDCT shows and fewer "trapped in a vidya gaem" shows
Less reliance on otaku fetishes
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>>141150952

We need an anime about manly fighter pilots doing manly things.
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>>141149889
Ya but if we fuck up we can always go for a 4th one or possibly 5th
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>>141151176
But then there wouldn't be any anime left.
Worst case, China nukes us for "retaliation for Japan"
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>>141151133
>more cute girls doing cute things
>less reliance on otaku fetishes
Isn't that somewhat contradictory?
Also all around better animators instead of just realism would be nice as well.
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>>141150173
Wow I was watching a Best of the Worst episode featuring that movie today. I dig the idea or maybe an anime of a movie critics club of cute girls bashing on fictional B-movies.
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>>141151176
>keep nuking Japan
>more and more anime keeps being made
>eventually the growing cloud of anime starts forcing the incoming nukes out of their trajectories
>nukes hit other Asian and Pacific nations
>radiation causes anime in all those countries as well
>russia deploys anti-anime forces to affected countries to prevent anime from invading and overthrowing Putin
>forces all anime into reeducation camps
>all anime from then on is just rehashes of First Squad
Does that sound like saving anime to you?
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>>141151133
>Bigger budgets and longer timeframes.
>Longer-term investment.

Yeah, this. As long as you've got the outcome of one season directly effecting the next one, you can't really aim for anything other than quick twelve-episode payoffs, which sort of discourages things like worldbuilding and character development. It also encourages cookie cutter stories - currently, trapped in a vidya game, battle academy, and CanKancer.

That said, I'm not sure the current studios have the working capital for that risk - which isn't a problem here.

>Greater reliance on storyboarding and good direction as a means of communicating a story.

Out of curiosity, what is the current status quo?

>>141151254

I'm not sure how CGDCT isn't an otaku fetish.
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>>141151277
Siskel & Ebert or MST3K Moe edition?
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>>141147183
I remove from Earth 90% of its fanbase, specifically the moe-obsessed type, it'll improve immediately.
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>>141151316
Maybe we shouldn't nuke Nippon and just dunk it into radioactive waste? No one will ever touch it, the radiation would kill them.
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>>141150769
/thread
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>>141151277
>cute girls

But why? Why not an interesting cast?
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>>141151316
>russia
>Putin
>anime reeducation

HELL YEAH!
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>>141151373
There is literally nothing wrong with moe. It is in fact one of the best things about anime in comparison to animated shows from the rest of the world.
Get rid of moe and you might as well go watch cartoon network, because you've just ruined one of the things anime actually excels at.
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>>141151416
What if they drink alcohol while watching the movies will that work?
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>>141151416
Because a bunch of guys dicking around with each other while discussing a movie isn't interesting.

>>141151505
Not cute or pure.
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>>141151522
>Because a bunch of guys dicking around with each other while discussing a movie isn't interesting.

But what makes the content more intresting with cute girls?

If you couldn't make the story entertaining with a male or mixed-gender cast, you're still relying on cute girls to sell it, and you haven't really fixed anything.
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>>141151522
To be fair I'd be up for a Tamako Film Club starring Mochi and his buddies.
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>>141151316
We could probably also get Tokyo Metro 2026
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>>141151673
I was saying it from a certain perspective. Of course, I think such a thing is interesting. Thing is, I don't know if there are any anime where the entire cast are girls who are dicks to each other like guys are.
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>>141151673
Not that guy, but cuteness is entertaining, and something the nips do extremely well.
Why not play into your strengths? Cute girls being cute and sometimes behaving somewhat incongruously while discussing movies sounds like a great idea.
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Make an anime that uses the EXACT SAME PREMISE as SAO, with just 2 cours, that functions as an actual mmorpg, and is still nice and edgy.

Why, you ask? So that all these studios will stop dancing around the issue with their constant attempts to vaguely do 'SAO but better'.

Then we can all move on and find another original premise to ruin instead.
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>>141151825
And what if that becomes a success?
That'll just encourage even more imitations!
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>>141151874
>And what if that becomes a success?
>That'll just encourage even more imitations!
I suspect that what really encouraging these imitations is the knowledge that there's a great story still hidden away in the exact premise of SAO, but everyone is too chicken-shit to straight-up copy the premise.
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>>141151874

We vaguely insult the audience (specifically, the part of it that buys BDs) offhandedly and frequently. That way, we can have an objectively good show that still bombs. Ideal, it has mainstream popularity but still ends in the red.
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>>141151925
I think you have a point there, people see that SAO was a succes but feel that they can do better
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>>141147409
So like Masterpiece Theater?
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>>141148337
almost found a way
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Japan needs to take 500,000 serian rapefugees and 2 years later, japs would make a really good s3 of attack on titans
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>>141151133
Agree on most of this but the CGDCT point. Otaku already eat it up now, and in the coming years it will be seen as nothing more than a huge fad in the 00s and new tens. Kind of like how mecha was for a while.

I don't know about "saving" The industry, but sparking interest in a couple of different genres would be nice.
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>>141151235
>China
>retaliation
>for Japan
>nanking
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The old demon king was finally defeated long ago. Most people assuming that he was destroyed or banished from the world, never to be seen again. The truth of the matter is that he merely retired after his last crushing defeat, deciding to leave the world conquest thing to his personally manufactured successor.

To this end he's compiled all of the knowledge he's accrued from his experience and countless defeats into a sort of genre savvy villain's guide, which he's passed onto his successor as part of her training regimen which also includes the study of heroic tales and legends.

As part of her training, his apprentice must use everything she's learned and infiltrate a party of heroes, discover and master the secrets of their asspull powers, and eventually either destroy them from within or turn them to her cause. Her master has come out of retirement as demon king just to ensure these heroes will appear, and her final test is to defeat him.
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>>141153195
/a/ making indie anime when?
We'll bring back the nostalgia just like indie devs do.
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>>141147183
NO self-inserting
NO wish fulfillment
NO Gary Stu talents or abilities
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>>141147409
I'd love to see an adaptation of Discworld or some Clarke novels like 2001 or Childhood's End.
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>>141153473
That's pretty boring, anon. Try again. This kills the industry.
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>>141150952
>and convince the industry that us Westerners have superior taste
>NCIS: Tokyo-3
>CSI: Crystal Tokyo
>Law and Order Magic Victims Unit
Yeah, no.
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>>141153747
>Law and Order Magic Victims Unit
Just imagine this scenario. Imagine it.
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>>141147183
Sell animes to China.
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>>141147409
>tfw you'll never get a good Enders Game anime adaptation

Life is suffering.
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Machiavellian MCs
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>>141153747
By Westerners, I meant us gaijin who like anime.
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>>141153873
We already have game of thrones the animation. It's called Berserk.
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>>141153892
Jesus christ what the fuck are you doing?

>Berserk
>animation

>game of thrones the animation

Berserk is older than the fucking asoiaf books , and it's surely older than you.
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No more SOL shit, at all. It's cancer, and boring at that.

School shit is banned unless the show takes place almost entirely outside the school and doesn't revolve around "normal" school experiences.

Any and all "Average Jap MC is reincarnated to fantasy world" works are hereby banned. This includes battle harems of all flavors as a prerequisite.

No beta, self insert, faggot, "average totally normal" MCs allowed UNLESS they have a reason to be such lame sad sacks, such as Shinji from NGE.

No more "cute girls in scenario that cute girls don't belong" (i.e. Haifuri, GuP, Sora no Woto, Upotte, etc.) unless it's actual warfare, the girls are actually trained soldiers, and people, including cute girls, die horrible war deaths. If you don't want this then stop cramming cute girls into war scenarios you fucks.

Kyoani and Shaft is dissolved as companies and their employees and assets are split among decent anime studios.

More well funded original works, rather than shitty LN/manga adaptations or shit made to appeal to the lowest common denominator just to guarantee success. Give creators more leeway to make different, exciting, or pleasing shows without worrying about printing money or selling merch.

Quality over quantity. One high budget, long term production show beats out a low budget, shitty adaptation or SOL/school/harem/ecchi shit show any day. Also, if you start a story finish it and finish it with finality. No more of this one season hoping for a second season open ended shit. Just make your story as is.

No all female casts. All male casts have the potential to be decent, but all female casts are always objectively horrible and more worried about pandering than making a decent show.
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>>141147183
Sell everything to disney
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>>141153864
The only people who can properly put Machiavelli into practice are sociopaths/psychopaths, and it's not actually fun to watch that since it's only relatable to a tiny subset of people who have an impaired ability to relate to people.
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>>141147183
>Save anime
from what? lol
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>>141149478
Which protag though? Giorno is probably gay desu.
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Each studio is restricted to making at most 1 series or 1 movie per season.
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>>141154111
>but all female casts are always objectively horrible and more worried about pandering than making a decent show

What is Sailor Moon?

Seriously, fuck you.
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>>141154684
>implying Sailor Moon wasn't pandering with it's nude silhouette transformation scenes and /u/ shit

Besides, you are aware my fixing plan wouldn't remove already made shows, right? I would only apply to future ones. Your lesbian waifus are safe. For now.
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>>141153473
That depends on the writers, anon. Unless you plan to monitor how each writer crafts the story.
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>>141154111
>Kyoani and Shaft is dissolved as companies and their employees and assets are split among decent anime studios.

But you've already dissolved the good studios.
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How to save anime?

Simple, stop with SoL where nothing happens and cute girls doing X

We can still have SoL and cute girls but we need a good story to go with it
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Can we just please have more originals? Adaptations are okay, but it feels like anime as a medium feels more and more extraneous existing just as commercials for the manga/LNs.
At least ideally. Although it's not exactly a safe ideally money-wise
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>>141147183
You mean make it credible as a storytelling platform, r? Because no matter what you do with it, it may not be.

You could get rid of all of the tripe shows, make killer studios and have them produce some fine anime shows or movies, but in the end it's still on a bit of a ghetto. As long as people think it's kiddie stuff or fapbait it won't be credible and people will keep making shit because that's what they think sells to children or otakus.

And the stuff about changing trends in writing is kind of shit, too. You can't stop people from making trends, and you can't control how people write the stuff. We already know certain genres and characters come and go through the decades.

And what criteria would you even base "saving" The genre on? How would you get people who can write/animate/direct with higher quality? Would you only have a couple of really good people do anime? Because that sounds like a shit idea, too. Not like they would burn out after a while or anything.
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Animate Dragon Ball Multiverse :^)
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>>141153747
I would unironically watch all three of those anime.
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Am I the only one that after reading just a dozen of comments in this thread thinks it's a good thing that none of us anons is in charge of saving anime?
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>>141147183
Ang isang lalaki ay nabighani sa isang babae.

Dahil sa hindi niyang magawang aminin ang kanyang damdamin, ipinagbahala niya sa panginoong maykapal ang lahat. Dahil dito, nakuha niya dahil sa mirakulo ang numero ng telepono ng babae. Agad-agad niyang tinawagan ang kanyang pinakamahal gamit ang kakaibang numero. Lubos na lang ang pasasalamat niya ng malaman niya na mahal din siya ng kanyang bagong sinta.

Ngunit kinabukasan, nung kinausap niya yung kanyang di umano na kasintahan tungkol sa mga nangyari, tinitigan lang siya nung binibini na parang nasiraan na siya ng bait. Pagkatapos ng kanyang pagsisiyasat, nalaman niya ang katotohanan. Ang babae na tinawagan niya ay hindi ang parehong babae na nahulog ang damdamin para sa kanya.

Sa katunayan, siya ay babae na nanggaling sa kakambal na daigdig: Pareho ngunit naiiba. Siya ay ang katapat ng babaeng pinakamamahal niya sa ibang mundo na nahulog din ang damdamin para sa kanyang pangalawang sarili na hindi rin alam ang tunay na damdamin ng babae.

Kung ano-ano ang nangyari nang nagkasunduan ang dalawa na ibigay ang kanilang pinakamadilim at pinakapersonal na lihim upang magbigay ng kasangkapan at mga armas na kailangan nila upang masakop ang mga puso ng kanilang mga pangalawang sarili. Habang ang dalaway ay hinahabol ang kani-kanilang mga mahal sa buhay, maraming pagsubok ang umusbong nang sila mismo sa halip ang nagkaibigan. Dito nila malalaman ang LIKAS na PAGMAMAHAL.
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>cut off any and all communication between Japan and the west except for trickle torrents
>halt all legal sales of anime outside of Asia
>pander exclusively to otaku
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>>141157353
What the fuck is this monkey language?
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>>141147183
by letting anime studios make the anime they want to make not constantly make the same dribble the fans want.
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>You are given the magical chance to save anime. How do you do it?

Elect the Donald.
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make an anime that is made by people who know what they do

action
plot
characters
jokes

a big budget for good animation
work with fans who can point out plot holes/poorly explained points

anyting i forgot?
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Adaptations of good visual novels with h-scenes.
Less lolis riding on war tanks.
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>>141158418
Not sure of the language but the context appears to be the same as Keit-ai so you might as well lose interest before it's too late.
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>>141158503
Is there an orgiginal?
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>>141147409
The 'irasuto' of Scott Westerfeld's Leviathan series would lend well to this approach. Also, Japan does have some experience with steampunk...and old war history, so why not?
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>>141158716
Less Girls und Panzer, less Kantai Collection. More manly dudes doing manly stuff, appealing mostly to closeted gays.
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Holy shit, I'm glad none of you people have anything to do with anime.
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>>141158941
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/a/ the animation
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>>141147183
Does anime really need to be saved? or its just a meme here
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>>141147183

Trigger animating Murcielago
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>>141147252
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>>141151133
Basically, put a bit of American animation work standards and QA into Japanese animation.

Don't get me wrong, right now cartoons are in a rut worse than anime where everything looks the same because it's all made by CalArts students that really set their sights low and never try to challenge themselves in terms of animation. But the industry does some things right, like overall way better working conditions, more reliance on TV ratings (hence encouraging good writing, directing, storyboarding, visuals etc) and less reliance on merchandising (ironic considering saturday morning cartoons used to be glorified commercials for toys), budgets are generous, animation is really fluid, animators are given a lot more time to actually animate and things at least attempt to be engaging to people besides otaku manchildren.

Basically anime needs to be weened off of merchandising and try to figure out how to make their money by being engaging to a wider audience. Combine Western goals with Japan's willingness to experiment with animation instead of just slavish only use 3/4ths perspective. Less LN/VN adaptions made to sell merchandise of the girls to an obsessed minority of viewers, more strongly written and directed original works that try to engage a broad audience. And let's not talk about the PPG reboot.
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>>141164313
>we want to appeal to a broader audience
Almost always never works. Its better to have a target audience that will enjoy your work rather than trying to reach out to an audience that most probably won't give back.
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>>141164487
It's definitely risky but the payoff is immense if it works. And anime occassionally does do that, I'm not a fan of either work but DN and AoT reached a huge international audience by taking a risk and trying to deliver something higher-budget with wide appeal.

So it's really just a matter of safe money small returns vs big risk big returns. The safe option is that anime stays in its rut of light novel harem adaptions that's slowly sinking its way into grindy p2w cellphone game tie-ins.
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>>141149889
Would a third nuke make anime real?
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Have Christopher Walken shipped to Japan and make it mandatory to feature him as a character in every series.
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