GET IN THE TRUCK
One thing I've really enjoyed about Delta threads so far is watching the reactions of people who are watching SDF, 7, Plus, and Frontier for the first time. It fills me with a sense of innocence, happiness, and appreciation. I'm glad that all of you are getting into Macross. I hope that Delta is enjoyable for everyone.
Motherfucker, I forgot Zero. People watching Zero, too. And II. Please enjoy the (de)culture. I'm looking forward to lots of threads with you.
I was initially watching this because i bought a YF-19 plamo on a whim in a hobby store but then i ended up watching and staying here just for the music and the girls.
I'm liking Delta so far. I'm digging the character design and the VFs but somehow i feel that something about Delta is just a bit weaker than the others.
Get in line
Are you enjoying the latest Macross with your grandchildren, /a/?
I almost want to see Macross Delta as a modern setting J-drama about an idol group Walkure, their production company NUNS, and their dance squad Delta. I would miss having the mecha porn but you could keep the character drama while ditching the weirder sci-fi metaplot which I always felt were Macross's weak points (Looking at you Macross 7).
12 episodes left until I finish SDF
Kim is the cutest girl in this series
A bit disappointed with the way they turned Minmay to some kind of slut just to pair Hikaru with Misa
>the way they turned Minmay to some kind of slut
She was fickle from the beginning, there's no way someone with that kind of personality would only stick with one guy.
>i'd like to teach macross to stream in perfect harmony
I'm liking Delta because it's not that. It's not about Walkure, they are just part of the framework of the setting which makes it come across better than how I originally thought it would be.
>while ditching the weirder sci-fi metaplot which I always felt were Macross's weak points
Macross lore is literally one of the best parts of the story
It's got a lot more characters to introduce in a much shorter time-frame. Previous series didn't really start humanizing the "enemy" until much later.
It's also not set within a single ship/fleet, so you're almost always jumping around to new planets and locales. Combined together this makes the show feel more "rushed" with less breathing room than the previous series.
You never get a chance to "wind down" with a lower intensity conversation because you're frequently jumping back towards the sinister Windemeran plotline.
>Combined together this makes the show feel more "rushed" with less breathing room than the previous series.
Is this supposed to be what rushed feels like? Because I thought the pacing over the last 5 episodes was pretty good. And I mean when it comes to winding down that was pretty much all of episode 5 wasn't it?
Klan wasn't in the game to begin with--and both her and Michael's story were tragic by nature; so the only conclusion for them was something bittersweet.
Klan is second best girl. Sheryl will always be best girl. Always.
I wonder why they aren't bothering to advertise this
Why the fuck does Myung get to be in these
To me Macross is all about the love triangle and the theme of finding love and normalcy during wartime which is part of it's space opera roots. The drama and emotional conflicts always reminds me of a J-drama or shojou series I think the story would transition well to an alternate setting .
I like the lore but I hate it when it takes the main stage rather than being a supporting piece. I'm a believer that the quality of a piece is inversely proportional to the number of made up words in it.
Well no, because then I would be watching an idolshit show trying to sell on the characters rather than a drama with characters who happen to be idols, K-ON compared to Nana.
Who /kakugosurun yo!/ here?
That's some crappy Hayate CG model in this picture.
Hayate looks like Mirage in this picture.
Cosmic on stage.
Comfy at home.
All \x/alküre Are God Tier
I'm enjoying that too. I just got one of my buddies to watch SDF since he picked up Delta from watching episode 1 and he got super hooked.
Getting a message from him after he watched the most recent episode when they mentioned Max and Millia and hearing how genuinely interested and happy he was made me smile.
I really hope he doesn't end up like that annoying pacifist Kira.
I honestly don't see the point of hitting the wing. That might affect them in jet mode or probably gerwalk but absolutely not battroid mode.
It's Hayate's episode who is just aiming for the wing. Messer is going to give a lesson and it seems going to be a big one since it looks like Hayate's decision is going to harm someone - he looks like he is angry on himself.
The legs are easier targets than the wings, and VFs don't need wings to fly when they got that much thrust.
>VFs don't need wings to fly when they got that much thrust.
That I already know. They only need their wings for maneuvering in jet mode. Now if they were fighting against VF-22s its pointless to aim for their legs to disable them.
It's so fucking bad, how'd they manage to screw up the CGI this much? Even Frontier wasn't this awful.
There was also this fucking thing from episode 2 which looks like it's from a 90's CGI cartoon or a PS1 game.
>Jenius girls also lose all the time
Mylene didn't lose. She just never won.
>Freyja is also older than Mirage
You're retarded. Just because Windemereans have a life expectancy of 30 doesn't make Frejya older.
樋口達人 松林唯人 松林唯人 未定
小太刀右京 玉田博 西澤晋 未定
根元歳三 矢吹勉 島津裕行 未定
根元歳三 ヤマトナオミチ 西澤晋 未定
one of my favorite shows
final stage never
>Named after the goddess of beauty
>Looks pretty much average
Why is this allowed?
Mirage and Hayate are shit and get their ass kicked by the Aerial Knights, but Freyja's desperate cries seem to make a dent in Bogue's Windemere cause.
>yfw Bogue's gonna lose the Freyjabowl to fucking Hayate
The context is that Hayate and Mirage cannot do shit to fight the Knights and get BTFO. That Bogue is explaining their cause to Freyja means that she already got under his skin.
He didn't give a ratass about explaining their cause to anyone before. You can see in last episode his rune flashes red when he sees Freyja and when he was angry, violent or hateful in battlefield, it flashes yellow.
>yfw Bogue's gonna lose the Freyjabowl to fucking Hayate
This would be fun to watch.
>yfw Bogue's gonna lose the Freyjabowl to fucking Hayate
I don't want her with fucking Hayate.
Mirage is for
mind break and moral degeneration.
>episode 8 is over two weeks away
Nah. Sheryl only has good songs in the series. In the movies even Ranka has more better songs than her (she's got Niji iro kumakuma, Houkago Overflow, Hoshikira, Sou da yo while most of Sheryl are forgettable). Meanwhile Fire Bomber's song are all good in series, OVA and movie.
>Moonspeaking anons are here
Good. Someone translate this please, it's from the manga. Why is Keith so cold towards Heinz?
I only liked Nijiiro no kumakuma out of those
>Seriously implying Universal Bunny and the other one that started Movie 2 aren't amazing
Also you seriously trying to tell me Don't be Late and Northern Cross aren't GOAT
I'm sorry, but how can she not be sexualized?
Fuck off, Delta is shit, im literally forcing myself to watch it. MC cant be more bland, and freyja making cute faces for 24 minutes isnt enough to fill the void this anime create in my heart.
>Also you seriously trying to tell me Don't be Late and Northern Cross aren't GOAT
Those aren't her movie's songs though. In the series I agree that Sheryl's songs > Ranka's. But out of her songs in the movies only Shudisuta is catchy to my ear while Ranka has more.
>tfw no one uploads Fire Bomber re.fire!! album on nyaa
I recently saw Macross Zero and i love Macross F, i cant understand this cant be shit taste or how you cant defend Delta until now.
Threads about Delta only revolve around post Freyja's cute faces or "I want to lick that rune !". Delta has good animation, some good music and good CGI (as usual with Satelight) but that's all. If wanted to watch a magical idol show i would watch AKB48 or a real Idol anime.
Okay so with my shitty Japanese skills and some help with Google translate, that's saying Kaname debuted in the past as a normal idol but retired and got depressed I think(?). She joined Walkure as the manager but she ended up having a high level of fold receptors so she became a member
Reina was caught hacking into Chaos and they brought her on because she had the aptitude
Makina has the blood of a mechanic (further leading credence to the likely possibility she's related to the old mechanic from Zero). She likes mecha and idoling and wants to fulfil the dream of both (not sure about that last part)
MC obviously getting together with his angry boss again
> i cant understand this cant be shit taste or how you cant defend Delta until now.
Because it's fun
>Threads about Delta only revolve around post Freyja's cute faces or "I want to lick that rune !".
Dude that's just waifuposting. We do that all the time. You make it sound like Frontier threads were full of quaint and high-brow conversations and not full of waifu wars and shitposting.
>Implying we don't talk about the lore of Macross like all the damn time
>got depressed I think(?).
She became an idol but didn't get any popularity.
>(not sure about that last part)
She joined walkure to fulfil both dreams of being a mechanic and an idol.
How it's F+Zero ? F had good vilains, a good MC, non annoying female cast. Same for Zero + better/ more mature writing.
Delta has none of that (yet)
But what is fun ?
>Dude that's just waifuposting.
I do that too sometimes but it doesnt mean that the anime is good.
And again no one can give any pros to watch Delta aside the waifufagging.
>F had good vilains, a good MC, non annoying female cast
Okay now wait a minute son. None of this is true.
>But what is fun ?
Thing you enjoy
>I do that too sometimes but it doesnt mean that the anime is good.
First of all way to ignore the rest of that part about how that's just how threads are around here and Frontier was much more bloody and shitposting. Second off, when there's a new episode out, we talk about the show for a few days then we talk about other stuff, sometimes waifuposting is in there, that's just normal /a/ behavior.
By immediately declaring it as a magical idol show when its far from it.
>And again no one can give any pros to watch Delta aside the waifufagging.
You're clearly talking out of your ass. If you can't see what good to watch about Delta then you're either fucking blind and/or delusional.
>to all of her advances towards him.
That depends on if you have shipping goggles on or not. It could easily be her trying to get Messer to be more social. Arad was doing it too.
More evidence is needed
>Frontier was much more bloody and shitposting.
It's because F had materiel to talk about. When there is none we get threads like Delta wich look like SOL anime threads.
>None of this is true
Once again, no counter example just " No what you say is false, opinion discarded"...
Also Varja were basic enemies but it always works.
>When there is none we get threads like Delta wich look like SOL anime threads.
I can't believe you're saying this when Frontier slowed the hell down at this particular point in the show and was going full SoL. Need I remind you that for the first like 10 episodes of the show were people shitposting HURR MACROSS IS A HIGH SCHOOL SOL NOW for days on end. Also, back then we didn't have rolling threads.
>Once again, no counter example just " No what you say is false, opinion discarded"...
You'll just do the same thing too. There's no paint in arguing about this. Neither of us will agree with the other. Though I seriously have to wonder how you can call Alto a good MC. It's widely thought of that he's the weakest aspect of Frontier
>And again no one can give any pros to watch Delta
Look at what you write first.
>Delta has none of that (yet)
That's precisely the answer you need. Its only been 5 fucking episodes. The war has just been declared, no battles or anything had happened yet.
Though, one thing that is true is that in the 5 episodes we got, they have done more with the setting than previous entries ever did.
>More Protoculture races
And if you're having trouble comprehending why the "magical idols" in episode 1 is consistent with the setting, the explanations for them come in when it makes sense for them to be explained, like ya know, the MCs joining the group and asking the crucial questions.
Even with only the first episode out people were able to connect the dots from what they know of previous entries and understand how it is still consistent with previous shows.
>By immediately declaring it as a magical idol show when its far from it.
Half the show is about the Idol Group flying and singing over battlefield. If it's not also an Idol show i dont know what it is.
>If you can't see what good to watch about Delta then you're either fucking blind and/or delusional.
No i dont see, tell me more.
>Half the show is about the Idol Group flying and singing over battlefield.
Have you only just watched episode 1?
I actually started liking Delta a lot more as it went on because it started using its setting better and not just been "half the show about the idol group flying and singing over the battlefield". Heck, they aren't even the most important characters, they're just the framework.
>If it's not also an Idol show i dont know what it is.
Well from my experience of idol shows, they tend to not have any relevant males, no mecha (unless it's a Kawamori show), and generally be about the singers trying to be more popular and having wacky SoL adventures all day, not being on the brink of total galactic war
>unless its a Kawamori show
If he knew Kawamori(or any regular idol anime) he wouldn't be complaining about Delta being an idol anime.
The last time Kawamori did an idol anime, it was AKB0048, and it was about a bunch of freedom fighters fighting for the right to sing and dance.
>Half the show is about the Idol Group flying and singing over battlefield
The key word you said is 'magical' when Walkure is not even in the mahou shoujo sense. It's also quite clear you didn't watched past the first episode as the next 2 episodes didn't have Walkure performing at all. You also dismiss the other aspect of the show which was the mecha combat which fucking obvious and big part of the show.
>No i dont see, tell me more.
No. I'm not going to spoonfeed you for something so blatantly obvious.
I honestly don't remember that. If it did happen I guess it was only a single sentence and it was forgotten? But having children is not the only thing. She looks 15 and acts 15, but that is for humans. Her body and mentality should be very different considering she in her 40s in human years.
They just die sooner, retard. Just like people in the old days died sooner without modern tech and safety to keep them alive.
Fuck, an average age of 30 isn't too different to people in the middle ages.
We are talking about two completely different reasons. One is biological the other is environmental and lack of technology. And if you didn't get sick and died or didn't die in a war people did get to the same ages as we do now. In this case we are talking about biological differences, just like a dog would get physically old and die a lot sooner than a person would.
What if Bogue is already married and has children?
>If it did happen I guess it was only a single sentence and it was forgotten?
At the beginning of the first episode she explains that the mayor told her to stop wasting her life and get married to the apple farm heir and she didn't want to, so she snuck onto a ship. And Hayate mentions it again shortly after that.
They are just like humans, except they got hair boners and die early. Their "year" is the same. They grow and mature at the same rate as humans.
If we use her age and their average lifespan as a reference, their average marriage age is probably 10-14, with a few years spent for them to go through puberty, probably start making babies around 13-16, perhaps.
Only because Kawamori didn't bother enough for this to make sense. We have at the same time people that are about to die and look a lot older than 30, yet the young fighters look like children. It is ridicules.
That is not how biology works.
>Only because Kawamori didn't bother enough for this to make sense
It makes enough sense. They age like normal, then as they get closer to 30 they start looking older and older and get weird castings on their face until they die I guess. There's really no need to look into it much deeper
>that are about to die and look a lot older than 30
The 30 year is an average, its not an absolute.
Human average lifespan is like, what? 70? 80? But there are people that are over 100 years old.
Not him. But have you even considered that Windemereans develop physically and mentally like normal humans up to a certain age then their aging process accelerates more rapidly?
Just like dogs and cats, am I right? They suddenly for no reason just lie down and die. Or maybe humans are secretly shooting them?
Jesus, why can't you admit that it is just stupid?
Yes, except this is not how it works.
No, it's been stated that they die young in exchange for their physical abilities (and even then we don't exactly know what's up with those white scars or the fact that once they hit 30 they start to age faster). But their mentality is more or less the same as humans at that age. The only difference is that they are expected to mature faster and act like adults as soon as they reach their teens. See, Bogue acts like a human of his age, but in his race's eyes he's too childish. It's all a matter of perspective. If they die so soon for the good of their society they should start acting like adults as soon as they stop being children.
> They suddenly for no reason just lie down and die.
Well I'd assume it has to do with the massive scarring on their faces
>Jesus, why can't you admit that it is just stupid?
Because we don't have all the facts
>Yes, except this is not how it works.
But they're aliens so clearly it is. Also it has been stated it happens in exchange for their increased physical abilities so there is a correlation here
We still don't know all the facts. They are making a big deal of their short lifespans so I'm pretty sure there must be something else behind that will get addressed at some point.
>Yes, except this is not how it works.
What doesn't work? You have to remember they aren't human and probably different biology than we do. Not to mention the climate of their planet is quite harsh since its mostly a tundra.
It could also be like a case of overloading. As they get older, they can't contain their powers as well and rapidly age to compensate for it. Just like how women become less fertile at 30+ and men's testosterone starts dropping too, so does the ability of Windemereans to contain their abilities and their bodies degenerate much more quickly to compensate.
Either way about it, who gives a fuck. It's fucking Macross, shit does not have to be cohesive or make sense.
That anon is a fucking retard for wanting sense in Macross.
>superior physical abilities
>can produce fold waves
>can share information through their runes
>can induce hallucinations
>all of them are attractive
Not weird, better. Inb4 short lives meme. A tortoise lives longer than we do but we are best species in this planet.
Zentraedis still the superior alien race though
It's the artstyle.
Why do people like to associate best girl with winning the bowl?
Why is Kumo-san always smug?
>Guys, what if Mikumo isn't human?
Current non-human theories are:
Some artificial being creaed by protoculture
Why do everyone hate elves in fantasy settings? Because elves always have better culture, science and live longer. It's just jealousy.
In Macross humans are like elves for Windermerians.
This is a pretty fun show.
I swear, it's going to turn into Macross 7 though, complete with trying to stop war with music. The villains are arguably in the right here, and the major protagonist just wants peace.
Freyja is 3cute, I hope she wins.
I swear, if Freyja doesn't win I'm killing the director.
Seriously, how can you make such a lovely girl and give her so much positive focus only for her to lose? It'd be goddamn tragic. Especially since Mikumo doesn't even have her seiyuu do the singing.
>even if the trio is on par.
No, they aren't on par. The Frontier trio was terrible. Sheryl is best Macross girl ever, but Ranka and Alto were terrible. Hayate is a pretty cool MC so far and Freiya is great and Mirage is okay, she needs more screentime but she is likable, she isn't Ranka tier of awfulness.
>The villains are arguably in the right here
Though the Protodevlin were never shown as right
>the supporting cast isn't as consistently good as in, say, Frontier
I think the only memorable parts of F's supporting cast were Ozma, Klan and Bobby