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>>>/w/itches+are+real
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Seacats thread? Seacats thread.
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>>140999673

I know what to do with a witch.
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>>140999673
>1986+30
>believing in witches
Did you stop thinking?
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>>140999673
Umineko had a lot of cool characters stuck in a bullshit story.
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>>141001179
Magic is the true ending.
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>>141001589
Magic is the Good End.
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>>141001589
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>>141001589
Everyone died
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>>141002290
Either way everyone dies but at least Angie isn't a suicidal mess in the Magic ending.
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>>141001955
Without accepting magic, you can never be happy. Erika will never be happy. You want Erika to be happy don't you?

>>141002290
They've just gone to the Golden Land. Why don't you join them?
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>>141002394
Being stuck in your delusions doesn't make you happy. Stop being a baby and face the reality of the world, faggot.
Also, I don't care about Erika being happy. I hate her, because how detestable she is is what makes her so lovable.
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>>140999673
My deito with Lucifer will most certainly be real.
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Reminder Gohda is the culprit.
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George a shit.
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Would a remake of the whole series by Ufotable even be good?

I think Umineko is still fairly popular to sell well with a decent adaptation.

Not to mention it would follow the trend of Ufotable remaking DEEN adaptations of VNs.
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>>141003966
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>>141003743
Stupid, sexy Stakes.
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>>141003997
I thought the nips hated Umineko for the ending? Or did they forgive R07 because of the manga?
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>>141003997
I would watch it for the Stake fanservice and screentime alone.

>SoL Stake OVA never
>PVC scales of the Stakes and Erika never
Why even live?
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>>141003743
Say it in red
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>>141004330
I only need to prove my love to Lucifer and not some random anons.
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Lucifer x Battler was the best pairing.
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>>141004452
Rosa x Battler actually.
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>>141004478
I like this pairing.
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>>141004478
Used goods.
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>>141003884
In EP 2? Yes.
Everyone who died in the 1st Twilight just happen to be the only ones that ate from the food he served.
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>>141004521
Everyone should.
>>141004526
It's fine in Rosas case.
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I'd buy the fuck out of an SoL spin-off about the stakes doing cute and murderous things while bickering and bonding with each other.
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Would you take responsibility for this qt trap?
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>>141004681
No.
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>>141004728
But Will was all over Lion though.
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>>141004681
Yes, in a heartbeat.
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Best MILF.

Rosa > Natsushi > Eva > * > Kyrie
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>>141004828
Shit taste.

Natsuhi > Eva > Rosa > Kyrie
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>>141004155
Want to fuck them all. Want to fuck all the females except Kumasawa.
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>>141004828
Why did Kyrie have to turn out as a lunatic?
She was great when she still was the "Onee-san".
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>>141004828
But Rosa is a slut
Only Natsuhi was confirmed pure and faithful in red
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>>141004893
>Not wanting to fuck Virgil.
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>>141004828
Rosa > Eva > Natsushi > shit > Kyrie
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>>141004478
Is this a full-fledged doujinshi?
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>>141004966
Becuase both her and Rudolf were power-hungry lunatics. Rudolf a bit less while she was full on crazy bitch.
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>>141004891
Great taste
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>>141005132
Forgot about Virgilia though.

Just place her before anyone since she's the best.
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Ange is the absolute worst girl and she ruined Umineko almost singlehandedly.
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>>141005268
Would still fuck her. Over and over again. Also hard.
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>>141005268
Battler ruined Umineko
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I want to fuck Lambdadelta!
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>>141005268
Go away Eva.
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>>141005389
Sexually?
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>>141005389
Who wouldn't?
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>>141005407
>Eva went out of her way to utterly destroy Ange's life ensuring she'd never get social contact or happiness
>Eva made actual death threats to Ange
>With her last strength Eva made sure to get Ange murdered by giving her the whole heritage and announcing it to the world

>"no, Eva did nothing wrong forgive her please so I can hamfist my message in the story"
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>>141005127
Yeah, her speech in EP3 was mad.
She's getting internally triggered simply whenever she sees Battler and admits she'll always be.

Gotta hand it to Ryukishi. In a story playing with witches and demons it's Rudolf and Kyrie who are absolute fiends.

Not sure about others, but somehow their massacre just made me feel very bad.
We had so much gore and cruelty, yet it's those two who give me this sense of, how shall I explain it? A blow to the gut.
I dunno what it is, the complete ruthlessness, how complete heartless they are or I dunno.
But something like this just gives me a sense of horror and a brick hitting me.
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Say what you want about DEEN but they did a good job with Rosa. She's incredibly hot even in the anime.
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>>141005627
Ange deserved it. Eva did nothing wrong.
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>>141005696
If you're not pretending to be retarded then I'm sorry for you
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>>141005638
That's because they're basically killing their family with no remorse or anything of the likes. It hits your harder because it's a more realistic situation than witches and magic n shit.

It's the same reason why Battler literally became a vegetable after knowing the truth.
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>>141005389
>That scene in EP5 where Lambda stabs Erika's clothes, puts her own leg between Erika's, kneels over her wanting to punish her. She is turning red and Lambda playing with her finger in Erika's mouth.
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>>140999673
What are you people discussing?
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>>141005690
Beatrice was cute too.
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Why was Chiru so shitty? It could have been great. Erika was really the only redeeming quality.
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>>141006161
The Umineko visual novel. You should read it, it's pretty rad, especially the OST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVr0IUQ6BwE

It's better to read Higurashi first tho
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>>141006161
How shit Erika is
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>>141006161
Nothing, this thread is /jp/ garbage.
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>>141006336
You shut your filthy whore mouth.
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>>140999673
Posting best Seacat.
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>>141006282
Ep5 was the best and the after tea party of 7 was the best too. I don't see how it was shitty at all.
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>>141006356
Hello newfag!
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>>141006458
6 and 8 were pretty garbage, 5 was okay but the ending didn't make sense and nobody gives a shit about Natsuhi she deserved what she got
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I miss reading Umineko with /a/ and waiting for the newest episode to come out and all the Witch Hunt shit.
Best time I ever had on /a/.
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>>141006524
>5 was okay
>5 just okay
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>>141006572
R07 should just make another VN already.
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>>141006524
>6 and 8 were pretty garbage
They were decent.

>5 was okay but the ending didn't make sense
What the fuck are you on about?
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>>141006524
I agree with you on 6 and 8, but I don't have any idea what you mean with 5's ending.
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I believed that anon, I believed him. I wanted to believe him. I was fooled.
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>>141004891
Nice try anon, but the real gentlemen's taste is
Rosa>Eva>Natsuhi>Kyrie
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>>141006693
We'll get it eventually, I'm sure of it.
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I want to marry Erika!
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>>141006776
She's not real. Not even in her own series.
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>Get into Umineko
>Read EP1
>Battler: Auntie Rosa is a soothing and sensible person.
>Beats the ever living shit out of her daughter along with verbal abuse and commits psychological torment.

Fucking hell.

Young Rosa still the best though.
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>>141006634
>>141006682
Shit, I meant EP6 ending
Only complaint I have with 5 is how Natsuhi got framed in the real world by Erika's red truth (which don't make sense in the real world)
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>>141006804
And?
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Why is her theme song so badass?
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>>141006836
>Natsuhi got framed in the real world by Erika's red truth
Did she? Erika provided reasonable claims and they were considered. That's why she was the culprit. She was the most suspicious.
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>>141006804
It's like Umineko and Maria taught you nothing.
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>>141006906
The Court of Illusions supposedly mirrored things that happened in the real world but proving Natsuhi was the culprit relied on multiple Red Truths that couldn't have existed in the real world.

Even the duct tape/candy paper trick Eva and Erika use to prove a room was sealed doesn't work, because they could be lying about it or the time they put it on
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>>141006776
I want to make her pregnant and avoid responsability.
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>>141006862
To invoke fear and adrenaline. It's the sound of you running away.
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>>141004452
>>141004478
Kinzo x Bice is the only one that matters.
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>>141006906
It's not like we know what happened in Ep 5
There was not a single reliable narrator on that episode
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>>141007087
You monster.
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I will eventually go there and make my very own picture of it.
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>>141006776
I want to hug Erika.
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>>141007087
I want to break Erika's heart repeatedly.
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>>141007216
Do really have 735+ images of Erika? Mind sharing your folder?
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>>141006809
She actually is but just got born into the wrong family.
While
:Rudolf was chasing women and having violent mood swings.
:Eva being condescending and a career woman.
:Krauss being a stuck up asshat for being the next head all the time and a mysoginist.

Rosa wanted a normal life but fate constantly never meant it good for her making her the biggest mess among the siblings.
Along with the pressure to succeed but never able to, becoming the laughing stock of the family.
Love life backfired.
Beatrice incident.
Her dream denied.

Rosa is a good person at heart. Battler was right, but life fucked her over and over that she's become a genuine mental wreck.

All she needed was a hug and someone telling Rosa they love and accept her. She probably never got and heard that from anyone except Maria.
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Is this worth reading?
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>>141007299
*Do you really
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>Lucifers anatomy is all screwed up
It could have been such a beautiful picture.
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>>141007216
Eww, imagine holding Erika close and hearing her breath heavily into your ear.
And start rambling about how love doesn't exist like a wierdo. And see her blushing as she tries to gently resist.
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"stareeeee"
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>>140999673
>Wiches
Not on my watch
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You guys never change, huh? Pffffffff ehehehe.
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>>141006862
Well, it starts off with electrical sounds mimicking the purr of a cat.
Then goes dreading, the cat is stalking you.
Then goes into playful horror, the cat caught you. (And you do not want to be caught by her)

Song loops/Repeats like events of Rokkenjima.
Electrical sounds mimicking the purr of a cat.
Then goes dreading, the cat is stalking you.
Then goes into playful horror, the cat caught you. (And you do not want to be caught by her)

It's a clever method of using a song loop.
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So did they ever put out that info about what truly happened and why?
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>>141007299
>Do really have 735+ images of Erika?
Yeah, I do.

>Mind sharing your folder?
I would if my upload speed weren't as shit as it is. Keep track of Umineko threads and you'll catch up.

>>141007438
Too cute.
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>>141006693
You fool.
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>>141007620
Yes, go on Youtube and look at the 12+ hours long explanation.
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>>141007741
>12+ hours long explanation
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>>141007741
Anon pls... Some people have better things to do.
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>>141007914
If you they did they wouldn´t be on this thread, would they?
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>>141007914
Like posting on /a/.
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>>141007620
Lion had three personalities and put a bomb in the mansion. Rudolf and Kyrie tried to kill everyone to get all the family's money.

That's it.
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>>141007620
You should be able to figure it out.
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>>141007620
Shannon is Kanon is Yasu who is an absolute madman
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>>141007620
Rosa in the desperate attempt of seeking a savior within Beatrice fulfilled her former belief in magic and witches that was reawakened by Maria.
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>>141008001
Spend one hour of my time on 4chan is enough for me. Twelve hours must be a torment.
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>>141008009
>Rudolf and Kyrie tried to kill everyone to get all the family's money.
Well it's obvious Eva got away, but was Battler getting out and losing his memory a real thing or no?

>>141008015
Fuck, I haven't seen this one in awhile.
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>>141008373
I'm on here like 10 hours a day generally.
Figures that as I write this my eys are hurting and tearing up from starting too at the screen.
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>>141008015
>Every thread until the golden land guy stopped posting
D-did he reach it?
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>>141008502
He's happily surrounded by Umineko cakes.
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>>141008502
Yes he's in the Golden Land
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>>141008482
You should get out more. It could be fun.
>>141008502
No.
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>>141007620
Beatrice, The Golden Witch killed everyone except Eva with magic because she wanted the inheritance back
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Did Eva ever reveal to Ange that both of her parents were batshit crazy lunatics?

I don't remember but considering how much she hates her she could have revealed it.
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>>140999673
I heard they fly through the sky on brooms.
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>>141008729
She couldn't tell her. Eva keeps silent, and that's why Ange starts suspecting Eva.
And that's why Eva starts hating Ange.
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>>141008729
Eva loves Ange, didn't you pay attention?
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I don't remember 4chan being this boring. Hmmm.
Oh well. Seeya!
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>>141004155
All the Stakes are so delicious. Truly amazing for cowtit lovers.
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>>141007914
>>141007831
>can play an over 50 hour VN
>can't listen to a 12 hour video
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>>141008905
Shut up.
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>>141008783
The left girl looks a lot like this girl.

Are they from the same artist?
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>>141008783
Rosa, please.
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>>141008977
Yep. That was Yamamoto too.
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>>141009331
Excellent. Looks very cute.
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>>141008834
She loves her so much she murdered her
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>>141008502
Surely he's just taking a break.
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>>141007322
It's too meta for its own good. Call me a retard, but there were too many alternate worlds, too many interpretations about whether something was real or just symbolic of something else, and too much of what seemed like filler or unnecessary scenes.

All of that combined to make something that certainly was not fun to read, even if it was interesting and intricate/complex.

Higurashi obviously has a similar structure and shares some themes and plot elements, but also manages to pull it all off in an interesting way and without getting lost up its own ass.
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>>141001070

right here, right now

RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW

RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7jSp2xmmEE#t=1m
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>>141010391
Agreed, having too many layers of reality destroyed any kind of tension it could have had. I couldn't give a shit about Beatrice, Battler or Erika. I could've felt something for Ange but she's an undecisive cunt so she's a no-no too.

It's still great, especially EP1-5 and the osts, but it lost its way in the second half
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>>141001589
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i dream of having sex with erika
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Just a reminder that R07 is fucking with us, Shkannon is not only impossible to be the culprit, but impossible to exist in the first place. The clear culprit for the cases in each episode is Rosa, and I can prove it. I have made a series of Youtube videos dictating and strengthening my theories, and you can check them out. The first one is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHMta4YbjSM&list=WL&index=4
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>>141006572

Evatrice's face gets me every time.
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>>141010937
Explain this
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>>141010937
>that video

How retarded do you have to be actually?
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>>141011253
That's explained in the videos. Great job not watching them.
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>>141011371
I have seen them, but did you look at the page? It says they were all dead before he was killed
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Every thread until we reach the Golden Land.
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The greatest love story ever told.

Also the greatest psychological thriller ever told.

And a decent mystery story on the side.
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I want to kill Ryukishi
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>>141011840
>The greatest love story ever told.
Are you serious? George x FuckingShannon was a better love story than what we got
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Now that I think about it, Umineko is full of "best mom ever", who takes the title between

Kyrie, Rosa, Eva and Natsuhi?
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>>141011933
Not all love stories must be happy stories.
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>>141011995
Love stories must have some kind of development though. And Battler x Beatrice is garbage, they have nothing in common. Battler x Yasu is a lot better.
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>>141011933
You mean George x Sayo?
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>>141012079
They're the same fucking person.
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>>141012079
>BxB is garbage, BxB is a lot better
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>>141011933
>implying this isn't the best love story
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>tfw there will never be another ED as good as Umineko
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>>141012134
And it's not the same story.
Battler x Yasu is two kids bonding together through their passion for mystery novels, which helped Yasu to deal with their problems. It's touching and Yasu is a good character with interesting insights.
Battler x Beatrice is 18 years old Battler playing some board game with the murderer of his family and randomly deciding he wants to bone her despite all her crimes. Then it translates into the real layer with Battler flirting with Sayo-Beatrice. Right under the fresh bodies of his family, whose deaths were directly provoked by Sayo. It's hamfisted and frankly dumb
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>>141012356
Meh. Honestly even George x Sayo-Shannon was better, it was the least problematic relationship for Yasu.
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>>141012517
I'm okay with that, George's romance was actually good for the most part.
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>>141012517
>>141012573
did you people even read the segments with them both in it?
what the fuck am I reading?
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George is a piece of shit and never tried to understand Sayo in any way. He was satisfied with the promise of puss and Yasu didn't even have any.
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>>141012703
We're talking about Yasu's perspective. The Shannon personality won the Love Duel which means her relationship with George was the one she decided to be the least problematic.
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>>141012760
That was because Beato lost by default since Battler disappeared. She would have dropped George in a heartbeat for Battler. That was the cause of her dillemna. In episode 2 is made clear that Shannon is unable to cope with the fear that George will never accept her due to her body.
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>>141012760
It's still very problematic. And Shannon isn't fit to make this kind of decison anyway.
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>>141012843
Because Battler would have accepted it?
Maybe she could have tried telling George. I never saw this George is a selfish asshole meme when we were always showed he truly loved Shannon and was bent on leaving anything his family was expecting out of him for her.

The problem stems from the fact that Yasu is actually a fucking psycopath.
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>>141012968
>I never saw this George is a selfish asshole meme when we were always showed he truly loved Shannon and was bent on leaving anything his family was expecting out of him for her.
It's just people having a laugh at George's expense because he's a nerd, that's all. /a/ and 4chan in general has a tendency to sneer at nerd/wimp/loser characters, maybe because they remind them of themselves.
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>>141012968
that's some shallow reading comprehension right there bub
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>>141012968
Everything about Battler's characterization has him as a well-meaning but dumb good boy while George is a jealous virgin with a mean streak.
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>>141013077
Said no one ever, bub.
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>>141013082
At least he didn't trigger the death of 15 people
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>>141012968
He just feels like an artificial, plastic person. Without remorse. Like when he encouraged his cousins to leave Maria, and when he chose his mother as his kill for some shitty symbolism. He gives into the witch so easily. It's just impossible to like him, especially compared to Battler and Jessica.

There was a whole long chart documenting everything he said wrong that some nerd made. I don't hate him like that but Georgie is an overall gross person.
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>>141013179
Battler was a good boy he didnu nuffin. It's not his fault that Yasu was a wreck.
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>>141013602
Yeah I was talking about Yasu. Battler did nothing wrong.
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Why couldn't Yasu just accept being a qt trap?

I'm sure someone would have appreciated him for being a cutie.
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>>141013785
It's 1986 you freak. There's no current year man to make Yasu feel better about being a penisless incest baby.
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How do I stop myself from becoming like George? Everybody really hates him so it's something I want to avoid.
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>>141013823
>3D world logic applies to 2D

He wouldn't even look exactly like a woman if this was real life, what's your point.

Are you implying he could have never been loved in this fantasy world? Maybe he should have just tried instead of murdering his family because muh-nobody-will-ever-love-me.
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>>141013898
How are you becoming like George?

>>141013912
>>3D world logic applies to 2D
I think that's what Ryukishi was aiming for in that case.
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>>141013912
I'm pretty sure in the way Ryu treats feminism and his female characters that he is taking the time the story is set in into account, not that any self respecting person in real life or fantasy would hook up with Yasu.
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>>141014215
>How are you becoming like George?
You're not going to trick me into blogging.
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Post Natsuhi.
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>>141013898
Stop asking so many stupid questions. There. Now you're ready to conquer the world!!!
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>>141014600
Cutest obasan
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>Always eager to see these threads on /a/
>Realize that there will always be a bunch of ban evading roleplaying faggots flooding the thread
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>>141014949
Baby killers aren't cute anon.
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>>141010937
Shkannon is impossible, they show it in this page
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>>141012760
That's before Batler come back, George and Jessica is nothing but a replacement for Batler, he's back and they're done, Yasu just don't want to accept that truth.
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>>141015610
The scene was told from Battler's pespective, who was an accomplice in game 5. It's explained in the Episode 8 manga
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Erika is the best girl and I love her a lot
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>>141015879
Love?
Do you have proof?
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>>141016660
She wouldn't accept me if I couldn't say it in red
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>>141003743
>Posting this inferior false prince/princess

Die.
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I want to drink tea with Dlanor and then help her kill witches.
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>love witches
>they are always awful in their shows

Why does this always happen?
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>>141017516
>lambdadelta
>awful

I'll fight you.
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>>141017516
>witch of origins
>awful

Have you considered suicide?
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>flying witch is the last good witch since 2003

Where did all the good witches go?
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How did Jessica know about Touhou in 1986?
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Last post dictates this thread is rightful property of Erika Furudo
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>>141020695
Nope.
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>>141020695
I wish I were rightful property of Furudo Erika
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>>141020729
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>>141004155
Lucifer > Belphegor > Leviathan > Satan > Mammon > Asmodeus > Beelzebub
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>>141006333
Can I watch the Higurashi anime instead?
I started reading it so I could read Umineko but I didn't got interested
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I want Bern to step on me.
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>>141022401
As soon as you cum she goes all nipah~.
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>>141022401
I want to squeeze Bern.
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>>141022535
It's okay as long as she stutters.
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>>141015764
Even then, Turn's manga has Battler rush in and see Shannon and Kanon there. Your theory may as well be skewered by lances of blue.
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>>140999673
BEATO IS A BOY AND BERN IS A CAT
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>>141026305
Meta world Beato is a girl you no-love goat faggot.
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Does anyone have the watched-expected-got where the 'got' is a bunch of troll faces along with Beato and I think Eva-B's troll faces?
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Episode 3 is the epitome of fictional story telling, nothing will ever come close to in our life time. I hope everyone had the chance to read it unspoiled.
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>>141026526
So it's not gay to want to fuck her?
>>141026956
Nice meme.
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>>141027049
That is correct
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>>141026956
Too bad I started with anime.
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>>141027049
>So it's not gay to want to fuck her?

If there's one thing sure about Yasu is that there's no dick nor balls between those legs
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>>141026956
Episode 3 trolled me so fucking hard that I legit rage quit and stopped reading for a week. Then I finally started episode 4 and saw that battler felt the same exact way and was refusing to "play" as well, and it sucked me right back in. Ryukishi knew exactly what he was fucking doing.
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>>141027342
it's not gay if the balls don't touch. It checks out.
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Ryukishi should've added Confession of the witch in the game 2bh.
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>tfw Ryukishi will never write another mystery story on the scope of When They Cry
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>>140999673
>ps3 sprites
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>>141028933
Stockholm go and stay go.
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>>141028933
>>>/jp/
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I liked Higurashi better
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>>141028933
this guy
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>>140999673
I preferred Umineko when it was about Battler vs. Beatrice.
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>>141029253
This. Episode 5 Beato and ongoing was simply no fun anymore.
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>>141029253
I enjoyed Chiru more, but Beato went to shit after the end of EP4. She was pretty fun in EP8, though.
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Something I've been wondering. Does anyone remember whether the game explicitly stated that there was only one culprit? In the first four episodes I mean. Solving the game by the end of episode four is the dream after all. And I feel like we never had a chance.

I remember people denying Shkanontrice well into episode six, mostly because they didn't like what it meant for those characters characterizations. They (we) preferred more complex scenarios where different characters committed murder for varying reasons in each episode. And it made everything way too complicated.

I wonder if we could have solved it much faster if this rule was spelled out. We'd have been focusing less on why everybody died, and instead focused on how anyone could have possibly done this.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was in fact stated somewhere, but I suspect it wasn't. (Not even as one of Knox's?) I think it was left as an unspoken law of mystery novels, and no one really noticed that we were playing by those rules.

Point being, I think if I were ever to recommend Umineko to a friend if I had any I would state for the record that Beatrice is one person who does all the killings herself, note that the game is solvable by episode four, and see if they have better luck.
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>>141022401
I want to punch her in the face
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>>141030011
>I think it was left as an unspoken law of mystery novels
Not at all, there's even a very famous example of a novel which defies that rule. I think that it how things tend to go sure but I don't think there's any rule against it.
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>>141030175
>"a"
It's one of the most famous Mystery novels.
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>>141005018
>Evas reaction. Every time.
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>>141004452
But Battler would probably cheat on her with her sisters daily. Well, except for Mammon, she already has his sister.
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Rosa x Battler OTP
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do you like the ps3 sprites in umineko?
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>>141012843
I'm not sure if this is an oversight or not but don't real life trannies have to use medicine to keep their makeshift vagina from rotting or something? So how the fuck would Yasu have been fine all this time?
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>>141014226
>>141013912
You know this story makes a lot more sense of Yasu was a feminine-hermaphrodite rather than a boy at birth, since even Kanon is effeminate and one would expect birth defects like that from incest.
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>>141018246
Why did a teenage girl think Touhou was cool?
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>>141033064
MARISA COSTUME AND TSURUPETTAN NEVER HAPPENED
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>>141032974
Yasu is not a transgender as one would typically describe. Yasu is a eunuch, they have no breasts and their genitalia were damaged to the point of being unrecognizable. They are incapable of having traditional sex.
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>>141012968
R07 said in interviews that George would certainly accept it too (he's fairly easygoing and is open to changing his plans for the future), but Sayo is mentally unhinged and couldn't consider that.
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>>141033316
Can they piss?
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Did the Umineko pastebin ever get updated?
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>>141033413
The bladder is necessary for day to day living so yes. Likely with an indwelling catheter.
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GEORGE IS A FAT SAD FAGGOT.
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>>141030011
>Does anyone remember whether the game explicitly stated that there was only one culprit?

There isn't only one culprit in every game.

In 3 Eva takes over somewhat, and in 4 Kyrie does.
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>>141012356
>and randomly deciding he wants to bone her despite all her crimes.

They start flirting about 10 minutes after meeting each other in Episode 1.

Plus, Beato didn't do anything wrong the games are fictional.
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>>141034751
Blondes are the best.
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>>141035042
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>>141034172
not hat anon , but
in the end , yasu's bottles lierally destroyed battler and eva and caused irreparable to ange
plus , you know , the whole bomb thing
beato is far from innocent in any way
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>>141006804
You just have to believe really really hard and it becomes real.
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>>141007175
Yeah, that's what I said about Peebles a few years back.
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>>141012968
>when we were always showed he truly loved Shannon and was bent on leaving anything his family was expecting out of him for her.
And did he love her for who she was or because she was simply a low hanging fruit? What actual qualities does he love about her?

>psychopath
Yasu is a sociopath. Psychopath are born without innate feelings of empathy. Sociopaths are made to not feel any empathy after shocking events in their lives. A small difference but once nonetheless.
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Dlanor's mons pubis is a miracle of the universe.
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>>141035910
>>141035866
I am no fan of George , but most of those examples are just reaching
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"Without love, it cannot be seen."

What did he mean by this?
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>>141037336
If you don't try to understand the motive, you blind yourself to the truth.
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He looks pretty stylish for being a VN writer.
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best girl
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>>141037336
> that photo
> tfw I was here
> that was already 4 years ago

Damn.
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>>141037336
>Yoshiya is an anagram of Sayo+i(the letter i pronounced in English sound as ai in Japanese), ai=あい=愛, that means love in Japanese. In details, the first kanji of Sayo(紗代) is 紗, which have readings sa or sha(as for 'sa'yo and 'sha'nnon), now sha can be written as sya in romaji. So, Sayo=紗代=shayo=syayo, and syayo+i=yosiya=yoshiya, si=shi in romaji, that's a hell of an anagram! Indeed, without love it can't be seen!
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>>141037435
But the motive was the weakest part of Umineko
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>>141004891
>>141004993

>Natsuhi would do anything Krauss persuade her to as long as it ends with "Dad likes it too"
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>>141037824
To take this even further, Yoshiya can be read as 4 4 8, and if you add those together you get 16, which is the real number of people on the island. The answer was right there all along

And Sayo can be read as 34, just like Miyo, which I guess is a hint to her being the culprint
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So are you guys just trap fags?
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>>141038300
Not really.
I just have a thing for smart women.
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>>141037185
Her butt is nice too.
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>>141038045
Still i tihink Krauss loves her.
Unless Marias dad he stayed with Natsuhi even if it took 12 years of waiting for a child.
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>>141038300
No, I'm a lolicon and Rykishi's makes great lolis.
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>>141038267
i hate to be that guy
but fucking spoilers dude
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>>141035343
>Stake of Lust
>still a virgin and dreams of THAT ONE prince
Isn't that kinda weird?
Meanwhile Satan and the rest represent their deadly sin properly.
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Okay, I've just started Umineko Episode 4 and I can't stand Ange. She's the first character in the game that I've really found annoying to the point I internally grown whenever she pops up on screen.

No spoilers please (or at least tag it), but is this going to be a slog to get through for me now? How much Ange do I have to put up with?
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>>141039829
I found her somewhat annoying the first time she appeared too , but she develops nicely throughout the vn
but if you want a direct answer she becomes one of the main characters
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>>141039829
>How much Ange do I have to put up with?
A lot. I agree that her parts in Episode 4 are kind of boring, but it gets better later on
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>>141039829
About half of ep 4 is just Ange getting bullied, playing with her imaginary friends and then going full edgelady
The ending of ep 4 is worth it though
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>>141040295
>>141040187
>>141040107
Thanks. Good to know she gets better at least, I hope I like her somewhat at the end.
Episode 3 was a wild ride and I'm super hype knowing I still have 5 more left and have no clue what's going to happen.
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>>141040424
>and I'm super hype knowing I still have 5 more left and have no clue what's going to happen
I feel sorry for you
Anyway, you should leave this thread to avoid getting spoiled
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I want to read the VN and this isn't connected to Higurashi right?
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>>141040562
It sort of half is, but you can read one without reading the other just fine.
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>>141003743
Every thread
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>>141039523
>complaining about spoilers
Shit like this is generally discussed here. Stay away if you don't want to get spoiled.
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>>141037197
How reaching?

>>141037336
Turn the chessboard over. ''With biases, you only see what you dislike about something and ignore what was good''.
And with love, you can see what was good about it but are blinded by possibly being critical about its flaws.

This is more obvious whenever you see people bitch that they hated Umineko. Nowhere will you see in that distain for it any amount of praise. Just
>huuuur Without love it cannot be seen is said too many times and it's too meta

>>141037523
He went to art school and designed women's underwear. Plus he has a good eye for being stylish.
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>>141038699
I honestly can't think of a single loli that wasn't great or god tier. I mean, that loli in RGD barely even talked and she had a great personality and I'd lick her tummy all day.
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>>141039829
It's somewhat of a slog because you don't care about her. I felt basically the same way as you did the first time reading ep 4. She somewhat develops greatly during the course of the story and you'll likely find yourself loving ep 4's parts with Ange after you've gotten more time with her once you reread Umineko. Her story really ties up very well in the end.
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>>141040295
I thought the edgy Ange was pretty fun. Like when she jumps off the roof with Bern and this amazing track plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkauAVC8Py0
And her first interactions with Battler were pretty funny.
<Have a nice day> <See you again>
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>>141037751
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>>141039829
Honestly on subsequent reread I think Episode 4, with the Ange/Stake scenes and the Maria/Rosa scenes was my favorite part of the entire VN, even though I disliked it and found it a slog on my first read.

Ange grows very nicely as a character throughout the series.
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Daily reminder that Umineko is a Christian game.
Athiestfags and Erikafags please leave.
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As someone who has not read it past part 3 and has no ambitions in reading it further, can you spoiler me the Rest of the plot
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>>141042986
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>>141042986
Short version? The entire story (probably) never happened because it's just Battler writing multiple books about the incident. Even he doesn't actually know what happened because he somehow lost his memory afterwards. Long version is too fucking long and epic despite a bullshit ending.
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>>141042986
Gohda was the culprit. Battler and Belphegor have three kids and Anges real name is Gretel.

No, honestly, just read it.
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>>141042986
Kanon Shannon and Beatrice are actually a signle person called Yasu, who is the son of the daughter of the original Beatrice and Kinzo and Kinzo
He lost his genitals in an accident and tried to start a relationship with all the cousins except Maria
Since he is unable of having sex and can't choose which cousing he wants to have a relationship with he decides to kill everyone and the servants happily help him
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>>141042986
Beatrice is a boy
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>>141043187
The ending wasn't bullshit when it was all foreshadowed from the very start. Everything about the way Battler acts in the beginning of the story and why he is the only one able to re-live the day of the Island over and over again in the meta-world makes sense when you take into account the whole ending with Tohya. I thought it was rather brilliant in the way it made you re-look at the story and changed what you thought you knew about it.
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I feel like even if i reread episode 1-4 I wouldn't be able to notice who the culprit was, could anyone reference a couple things that happen that hint towards it?
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>>141044493
In one of the episodes (can't remember which specifically), there's a scene where all of the cousins are all talking on the beach that is pretty important. Other than that, leave the thread if you dont want to get spoiled.
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>>141042986
Everyone was killed by a witch. Battler decides witches are fucking evil and dies, and Angie and Erika team up to kill witches in revenge.
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Honestly not enough erika or dlanor pictures posted for me to save.

How can you have a best story thread without best girls?
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>>141044493
Ep 1 murder of Eva and Hideyoshi is pretty easy to figure out once you notice that Battler is the only objetive viewpoint
There are also some scenes where Kanon is somehow hidden behind Shannon and Godha is unable to see him and another scene where it is mentioned that Kanon did not cause any movement in the rain puddles he stepped on
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>>141043282
I still can't believe this is legit
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>>141045288
It's easier to "understand" from a psychological viewpoint. And it's not like he's the culprit of Prime anyway.
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>>141042986
Turns out there was never even a mystery. Basically, Shannon wrote some mystery stories because she was bored and put them in bottles. Then on the day of the family conference, a bomb Kinzo had under the mansion exploded. Everyone thought it was a big mysterious incident and nobody believed Eva when she told them it was just an accident.

Amnesia Battler wrote about witches because he was stuck in a wheelchair and had nothing better to do with his time.
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>>141042986
Turns out Battler was the culprit. He killed everyone on Okonogi's orders and then faked his own death. He writes internet fanfics about the Rokkenjima incident because he loves lording over everyone intellectually.
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>>141045428
>nothing better to do with his time
Just writing stories and banging Ikuko all day.
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>>141045288
I originally hated it at first, but lately I realize what Ryukishi was going for the more I think about it. It makes sense in conjunction to the themes of the story. A major theme of umineko was how we force our judgment of someone's character based on how we interpret the events, and sometimes that judgment can be completely one-sided.

I think a better way to word it is that we force people to play a certain role in order to fit how we want to view them, kind of like scapegoating in a sense. Yasu's main struggle was through the fact that she was basically playing roles with everyone she knew and was never being honest with herself. This led her to question who she really was and whether anyone would accept her if she ever was honest about herself to others, which eventually ended up in the whole Shannon/Kanon/Beatrice thing.

That's the way I see it, at least.
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>>141045976
It's also a great tragedy after having read everything up to it and figuring it out
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>>141046160
Could it maybe be because you're ban evading? You are permabanned, right?
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>>141046248
Ignore and report
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>>141045575
I was hoping and expecting battler to be the culprit when I first started reading.
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>>141022229
it's a good anime but a bad adaptation
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>>141046287
I was fresh off Higurashi when I read seacats so I was expecting some strange everybody/nobody twist or maybe the "extra person". And I was totally with Battler in part two when he said he didn't want to doubt anyone.
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>>141046607
I loved the disconnect where battler didn't want anyone to be the culprit yet wouldn't believe it was caused by a witch.
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>>141046607
Which was, of course, the emotional trap set up by the story.
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>>141046607
It's the most normal thing to do, don't you think? I mean, that people are his family.
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>tfw volumes 1 - 5 were the most God-tier weebshit ever
>tfw Umineko's potential was pissed away all because the author couldn't be bothered
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>>141047132
Repeat in red: "There were no other entrances to the tomb except for the one blocked by that rock."
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I'd like to bang the shit out of Bernkastel
Sexiest girl in Umineko
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>tfw actually cried once during EP 8
Call me a fag, but I liked how it ended.
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>>141047342
>>/t/here+were+no+other+entrances+to+the+tomb+except+for+the+one+blocked+by+that+rock
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>>141047462
I failed...
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>>141047543
Now that's more like it. Yes!
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>>141047425
Dude, same here. EP 8 had some extremely emotional moments.

>that scene where Ange is going around doing the quizzes and each of the characters regret their past mistakes after Ange completes their quiz
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>>141047543
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>>141047425
Only a heartless man wouldn't cry at EP 8, it had some amazing scenes.
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>>141047543
Oh, that's good. The mystery would be boring otherwise.
Here's my theory: [blue]Jesus had been removed from the tomb before it was shut for three days.[/blue]
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>>141006282
The spotty scan ruins that image for me.
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>>141047796
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>>141030011
It's actually one of the iron rules of Umineko that the culprit has to be different every time.

Of course in the 'real world' there's only one culprit, but in the games it has to be a different combination of people every time.
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>>141048199
The main culprint is always Yasu, but the accomplices are different every time
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>>141041368
I love the math jokes on the blackboard
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>>141015764
But that's not the problem.

Erika was in that room. And she was the detective at that point. It wasn't possible for the detective to not notice that either shannon or kanon were missing wven when it was stated in red that all the people in the island were in the parlor.
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>>141048294
I hate the manga
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>>141048452
She was in the parlor, but she wasn't in the meta room along with Battler and Lambda when she said it in red. That might be why
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>>141048452
Didn't R07 say somewhere he employed a really dirty trick in that episode?
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>>141048294
the manga takes so much out of the novel man
why were people so insistent on having everything laid out for them
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>>141048942
Because we're goats that wanted to rip the heart out of the story and spill its guts.
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>>141048942
I feel like the manga should only be read after one has read the VN, as it's a quicker form of reread and clears anything you might not understand.
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>>141049248
not even then , dude
you are supposed to figure out your own answer , even if it took multiple re-readings
just going to the manga for the answers is just lazy and unimaginitive
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>>141049350
This
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>>141048942
I don't think it was because people insisted, I think he just wanted to explain it in the end

http://apgnation.com/articles/2015/01/29/13689/say-red-interview-ryukishi07/
>In the original version, in order to leave room for imagination for the reader to solve the mystery, I chose not to draw Sayo’s secrets in great detail (of course, it’s still possible to grasp, but I didn’t show things in a way where everyone would get it.)

>With the manga version of Umineko, however, we considered the work to be a “period” to the “sentence” that is the world of Umineko.
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>>141037336
I was so mad when I read this because I thought the motive was stupid.
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>>141048452
Just because Battler said in EP5 that Shannon and Kanon were in the same room together with Erika doesn't mean they actually were.

He lied.
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>>141002357
But trick ending has Ange traveling th world with headmate Erika, solving misteries and shooting people in the face.

It's clearly the <Good> Ending
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>>141005812
>the truth
that was just one possibility wasn't it?
the whole point of the umineko incident is that it's a closed box
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>>141033316
Anal is pretty traditional
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>>141047603
Found it weird how they handwaved Rudolf turning Kyrie into the goddamn avatar of envy on earth. Pretty sure that bullshit deserved a scene.
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>>141054148
Ange reads Eva's book in the manga, and it's exactly the same as Episode 7's Tea Party
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>>141054796
>manga
the only good parts of it were the ridiculous trollfaces
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>>141055344
The manga is good, cockhead.
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>>141010937
Did somebody seriously link to the rosatrice video in 2016 when its been so throughly debunked.
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>Japan hates Umineko so much that Ryukishi07's career as a writer went downhill after ep8, his latest game iwaihime sold like shit
>Umineko is praised and loved by many in the west

What happened?
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>>141060089
People can't handle the truth, just like Ange.
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>>141060089
They were unhappy Rykishi's didn't spoonfed them the ending.
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>>141060089
Umineko was a rollercoaster ride. It was fun, but it felt like a major case of "making it up as you go along" instead of some well woven plot like Higurashi was.
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>>141060785
Except even the Shkannontrice thing is heavily alluded to in the anime, which Ryu07 had a large role in. Will came out of nowhere to be sure, but many other aspects of the latter parts of Chiru are readily found in the original four episodes.
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Artbook scans

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzdNfLGacG1rbHZGVjdVc0VfNXc
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Goodbye.
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>>141048080
Remove George.
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I believe the Shkanon theory is false and believe in the Rosatrice theory. There is nothing you can say to convince me otherwise.
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>>141047425
The last part of EP8 is truly beautiful, especially Ange's speech before she goes through the door.

I thought that scene is already excellent in the VN, but they improve it even more in the manga. Ange is really a great character if you follow her life journey right until the end.
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>>141060785
>"making it up as you go along"
Maybe in some respects, but the major key parts about the culprit and motive and the overall direction of the story was definitely not made up as he went along.
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>>141060089
>his latest game iwaihime sold like shit
Such a lie. Iwa kept being sold out.
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>>141067122
Believe whatever you want. It honestly doesn't matter.
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