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Another week of shit
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>most of the Ishida fight was offscreened
I'm not sure if I'm disappointed, or glad this won't take as long as I thought.
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Why do so many of the side characters job so hard in this manga, its ridiculous.
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Now Zaraki will power up again and take on that shitter
Yhwach dreaming of getting jobbed was cool
Inoue will be screaming KUROSAKI-KUN in 2 chapters or less
Ishida is going to be saved by Shinji or something

TL;DR literally nothing happens
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>>140991219
>TL;DR literally nothing happens

This shit should have ended after Aizen.
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>>140990067
>>140991219
>>140991495


Speedreading Meme-spouters detected. Not cool to like things on the internet is it?
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>>140991774
>Speedreading
This is the biggest forced meme of all
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>>140991103
Kubo couldn't give them any interesting scenes due to his limited writing skills.
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>>140990067
>>140990067

YFW Byakuyas been aiming at the wrong place all along. He shouldve taken out Gerard's Heart
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>>140990067
Do they have to atomize him to kill him?
It seem that each time is because he had a piece to grow from.
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You know, I shit on Kubo a lot but this time I'll give it to him for sticking with Gerard's gimmick.

Because honestly, him being beaten by conventional mean would've been pretty lame.
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i smell ichiruki butthurt

PROBLEM???
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>>140992124
they just need to stop trying to hit him with raw physical force, binding, draining, magic manipulation, anything but slapping him with various different types of blades.
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>>140992274
he who smelt the butthurt dealt the butthurt
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>>140992302
>inb4 Yumichika Bankai's power draining shenanigan

Would've still been lame nontheless.
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>>140992302
>tfw you remember yumichika is there
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>Valkshit survives yet another fucking fatality
>Nighttime conveniently over
>Ishida rekt off-screen
>what the fuck did Kubo even do with Ishida's arms in that panel
>Ichihime shit panels
>nothing happerino

low level Kubo
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how is it that ukitake didn't get a single fight in before dying when his only power is to redirect projectiles? In a an entire arc about projectile weilding enemies
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yfw Jugo was throwing getsuga tenshos with his sword.
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>>140992410
because muh Mimihagi-sama
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>>140992410

>his only power

Another speed reader faget. The guy
is a reiatsu monster comparable and possibly even exceeding zaraki who was using his reiatsu purely to move his body.
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>Based thor isn't dead
Get fucked icefags Ice is a shit power
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>>140992496
He sure showed that by getting OS'd by that wonderweiss random in unreleased form.
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seriously, what the fuck is wrong with his arms in this image
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>>140992496
literally never even implied never mind confirmed by anything at all. he was sick, that's it. that's all we ever knew, not even the details of it just the general idea. nothing measured his reiatsu and nothing even began to suggest that he used it in any irregular ways, and even if he did that's still not his "power" his sword's singular function was to throw beams back
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>>140992613
It's pulled back
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>>140992625

>literally even stark said it was more than that. Speedreader fag.
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So how long to you think Ichigo's going to last before he either gets captured or booted back out of the royal realm and someone has to spend the next 6 days training before the actual final encounter with yhwach?
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>>140992677
it throws beams back with added reiatsu, that's still "throwing beams back." do you even understand english?
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>>140992519
Rukia's bankai would probably ice him though. Hitsufags definitely rekt.
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>>140992647
huh?
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>>140992762
No it wouldn't Thor would break out rukias too because he out classes everyone there but Kenpachi.
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>>140992613
Left half is covered in light
right is pulled back and resting on the wall.

This fight was skipped because we can't see how A works yet.
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>>140992613
His elbow is behind his body.
I thought he lost his arm at first.
The truth is less satisfying.
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>>140992774
Shoulder up, elbow back, forearm at level with chest. He does not have a tiny dinosaur arm. The one holding the bow however is suspiciously short looking, so maybe he has a tiny dinosaur arm.
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>>140992338
>>140992387
Considering all the victories have literally been coming from (or indirectly due to) vice-captains, this is probably going to fucking happen.
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>>140992389
ichiruki fag confirmed
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>>140992851
>>140992856
>>140992877
>shoulder up, elbow back

dudes I can see the hand coming out of the fucking sleeves, where's the fucking elbow

seriously, stop defending drawing blunders
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Whatever happened to Jizzelle? I miss that plump ass
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>>140992968
yhwach killed her and glutton
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>>140992961

>>140992968
What ass
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is giselle kill?
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>>140993025
>killed

yeah right
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>>140992613
It was foreshortened. his right elbow was folding backwards. It does look awkward in that perspective tho so it really is a mistake on kubo's part.

The shadow that implies part of the hand is the only part that's touching against the wall is awkward-looking as well. It should have been the whole arm that's touching the wall.
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>>140992961
>Being this mentally retarded
Nigga
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prediction

>Ichigo begins to fight
>Its really just talking and the occasional sword clash
>ICHIGO-KUN
>Says tit girl when she notices something that ichigo didn't but eventually is irrelevant
>Bach gets tired of talking, blah blah lets get serious
>Ichigo on the ropes
>Bach not even trying cause he's using hilts time skip from dbz
>Suddenly ishida
>Ichigo, think about the future then do the opposite
>Or some shit he learned from his fight
>Ishida one shot'd from bach
>tit girl runs to heal
>Take him outta here tit girl!
>ichigo goes super sayian cause krillin is dead
>Bach on the ropes (but not really)
>Bach evolves

idk what happens after that desu
probably a flashback in there
probably cut back to miracle man right as the fight starts
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>>140993037
Hopefully because it's a great shame there's no doujins of it getting railed
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>>140993025
>her
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>>140993078
>(but not really)
Why did this make me laugh
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>>140993132
because it has happened in the majority of bleach fights
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>>140992961
the outline is shitty but this shouldn't even need assistance in the first place
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>>140993265
>it's a drawfag apologist

One PIece Triangle Theory drawjerking is in another thread, pal
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Ichigo better whoop some fucking ass
I want the confident ichigo that fought final form aizen
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>>140993091
>no doujins of it getting railed
>He doesn't know
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>>140993383
>better whoop some fucking ass
>after jobbing already twice to Yhwach
>in a manga where B-tier underlings require eight chpaters to get offed

HA

confident aizen-whooping Ichigo was final tier overpowered shonen Ichigo. We're still far from there.
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>>140993365
I actually really pity you people who only speak in memes. It must be frustrating not being able to think your own thoughts and having to pigeonhole any passing thought into some canned response.
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Difference between bach's dream and reality.
What does it mean?
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>>140993495
well, I pity drawfags who overcomplicate arguments, so kindly go fuck yourself with your paint brush mate
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>>140993458
A man can dream
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>>140991103
This isn't even jobbing. They clearly should have killed him right there.

2 mature bankais and one imamture bankai from an OG kenpachi no less, and he still won't die? Come the fuck on.
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>>140993586
This is some dedicated shitposting.
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>>140993572
Time travel.
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>>140993025

Damn...RIP
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>>140993572
Bach expected an Ichigo with his previous Zan
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>>140993572
>Left
>Ichigo with his "quincy sword"
>Right
>Ichigo with his two swords
Mustacheking can't foresee the movements of the second sword.
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>>140993572
Fuck I just noticed does this mean Bach is unprepared for two sword style?
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THREE CAPTAINS

THREE FUCKING CAPTAINS

AND THIS MOTHERFUCKER EXPLICITLY SAYS "I GET STRONGER EVERYTIME YOU CUT ME DOWN"

THREE FUCKING CAPTAINS THINK ITS A GOOD IDEA TO SLASH HIM INTO EVER-FINER POWDER

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE IDIOTS

USE A SEALING ABILITY OR A POWER DRAINING ABILITY OR LITERALLY ANYTHING BUT STOP FUCKING TRYING TO CUT HIM

STOP IT

STOP IT RIGHT NOW

I SAID STOP IT
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>>140992700
The last 9 days started when Yhwh regained his powers

Which was yesterday in manga time
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>>140993757
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>>140993757
The captains are all idiots anyway.
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>>140993806
>implying his Miracle was activated back then
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>>140993757
>a nobel warrior
>a savage
>an ice faggot
>having sealing powers
Sorry son well I guess hitsugaya can but Thor out classes him in raw power so he can just break free like how aizen did.
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>>140993725
ITs not his quincy sword
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>>140993495

buttfrustrated zero 'artists' jealous of Kubo
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>>140993895

Still, with kenpachi's raw strength why can't they just chuck him off the edge of the soul king dimension?
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Calling it
Ichigo vs Bach ends in a double ko where ichigo loses his powers again
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>>140993938
Kenpachi is kind of insane right now thanks to his bankai unlessing so much power I figure once he calms down this fight is going to wrap up.
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>>140993938
They can. But he'd crush Soul Society.

This was explicitly covered already.
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>>140993806
None of the sternritters had their true powers then. It was distributed to the weaker sternritters, remember? Then yhwach returned their powers back after they were killed.
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Hey so where is the guy who controls names?
Didn't ichigo save him on the way up?
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>>140993938
He'd just fly back anyways.
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>>140993938
They tried did you forget he grew fucking wings and flew back? That was like three chapters ago
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>>140993938
>speed reader general
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>>140993737
It means he's unable to predict the future if Ichigo is involved.
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>>140993991
All the stern ritters had there powers then

They just werent expecting to get put down that easily

As Lile said "these are the innate powers ive had within me all along"
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>>140994058
well to be fair he didn't regain his future sight until morning so the dream he had may actually be just a dream
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So what's Rukia doing while Ichigo is facing the final boss???
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>>140994133
Trying not to die from her bankai
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>>140994133
Chilling with the rest of the side characters until the epiloge
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It was a vacation chapter afterall
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Is Zombie Kira still fighting owl monsters offscreen?
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>>140993764
yes, as is clearly marked in red in the image
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>>140994442
>>140994442
image implies last 9 days started at the beginning of this arc which is wrong
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I still can't believe the entire royal guard jobbed without any of them even showing a shikai besides RapeMonk
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>>140994542
No the image explicitly marks where the last 9 days started and counts them separately. It was made in response to someone asking how long the arc had been going, with some people spitballing ideas that it had been weeks or even a month. Don't blame your illiteracy on the image "implying" something it clearly doesn't.
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Inb4 Gerry is a Nurarihyon type of deal and can be killed by attacks that he doesn't see/perceive.

Also I'm rooting for Kira to clean show down in SS.
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>>140994749
>>140994635


why is hisagi such a pussy?
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>>140994800
Off-brand Ichigo. That's why.
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>father and son
Wait a minute did I miss a plot point somewhere?
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>>140994598
Pompadour released his shikai, it manipulated scalding water
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>>140995288
About 150 chapters ago
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>>140995318
wrong. that was before he released it. kinpika seems to increase his speed to matter manipulating levels.
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>>140995397
So what's the deal then? Is Ichigo actually his son or is it just a "Ywach is the father of all quincies" thing?
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How many times did miracle man get killed in the last page only to revive with more power the next chapter? 3 ? 4 ?
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>>140993572

More importantly, in the dream, Bach doesn't have the spirit king black goo on his face.
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>>140995620
The latter

>>140995495
He could also manipulate blood to some degree so its safe to say we don't know the full extent of its abilities, but they seem tied to his hot springs theme
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>>140993572
If you look closely, the man on the left is wearing sunglasses. That is a page of Ichigo advancing to kill Kubo, it only switches to YHWH when he's about to wake up.
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>>140995651
Enough times to make a point
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>>140995495
>increase his speed to matter manipulating levels

I don't remember this ever happening
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>>140995495

He never showed the ability.
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>>140993806

Gerards ability revived them senpai.
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>>140996228
Yhwach revived them, anon. Had nothing to do with Gerard or his ability.
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>>140996347

They had gerards tangible angel wings and he was the only one not to show his ability in those fights.
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>>140996418
Its Auchwalen, anon, it has nothing to do with Gerards ability. Learn to read.
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>>140996503
>being this much of a level 1 reader
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>>140996530
Haschvald literally explains it here>>140994084

You're the level one reader here, anon.
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>>140996573

Yeah he gives the miracle his true power back and the miracle revives the while crew.
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>100 posts in
>no orihime delicious waist

fuck you /a/
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>>140996640
Are you illiterate? This isn't debateable. Your substituting canon with headcanon.
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>>140996687
Any and all discussion about Orihime inevitably devolves into shitposting. But yeah, nice back.
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>>140994749

Goddamn, that vampire gangster/Gantz team team-up shit was my fucking jam.
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>>140994800

You're asking why a fucker who saw a 69 tattooed on a random dude's body decided to get the very same 69 tattoo on his face is such a pussy?

Are you fucking serious?
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>>140996696

Hasbrown said that he gave them their powers back, not that he revived them.
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>>140996808
But he did revive them, with Auchwalen. If you have a source that says otherwise then feel free to post or link to it.
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>>140993572
He dreamt his sword was cooler
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So is Kira or Yumichika gonna have to deal with Mr. Miracle?
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>>140996903

He used Auchwalen, Gerard got his powers back and revived the group with it.
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>>140996954
Aizen
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>>140993572
vision from a parallel universe where Ichigo never lost his powers to Aizen? Or simply out-of-date stats on Ichigo?
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>>140996975
>source or link

Nope, try again, enjoy your headcanon
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>>140993572
man i miss zangetsu
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>>140996993

Aizen is fighting the army of intangible chickens in soul society.
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>>140994205
>chilling with the rest of the side characters
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>Orihime is super stoked that she's getting put on guard duty just before the final boss
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>>140993572

Maybe it's all happened before.

Yhwach and the Quincies make it to this point but get killed by Ichigo.

Without a vessel, the Soul King resets the entire universe.

Yhwach, having Almighty, retains/see all the repetitions but only now has Ichigo come with a new form of power.

Maybe Yhwach knows he's going to lose but doesn't care because he realizes Ichigo won't become the SK.

But now that Ichigo has shown up with new powers and dragonboobs, maybe Yhwach can rest easy knowing that something can tether the world together after he's dead.

>Please don't take this seriously.
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>>140997056
I thought he cleaned up after trying to bust out of his chair
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>>140990067
>he died
>haha! you have fallen for my ploy!
>I merely pretended to be dead! This is my true final ultimate secret totally not an ass-pull form
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>>140995742
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So was Ywhach just trolling when he said he was giving Ishida the power of "A"? Because I really don't see how he's gotten any better
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>>140997056
That was Kira
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>>140997135
What would've been the point then?
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>>140990067
So, when will the use some cool kidou? Aizen would have recited a few verses, you would imagine a cool song in the background, some huge flashy things would happen and he still wouldn't have killed him, but at least it would be more amusing to read.
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>>140993895
Does Shinji know how to seal? Isn't he on the scene? We still haven't sen this niggas bankai after all this time.
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>>140993572
I didn't notice then when I was reading it and now im actually kind of curious

I was actually somewhat satisfied with the fight against Thor at the beginning of the chapter when they blew up his head and I thought he was dead. Now my biggest fear is Bach doing some bullshit like taking all the power from the other quincies to give Byakuya, Kenpachi, and Hitsugaya a cheap way out of their fight.
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>>140997121

She's going to be fighting. That's why she gushed all over herself.

Yhwach will look at her hard and she will explode into a pool of blood and ichigo will realize that he made a big mistake.
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>>140997198

The Heart.
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>>140993572
the memories of the Bach that playacted as Ichigo's zanpakuto have returned to him and are messing with him; he's suffering from an Alzheimer-like mental condition where he remembers Ichigo as he was before losing his powers to Aizen, and will spend most of the fight fighting Ichigo v.1 in his mind. By the time he realizes the Ichigo he's fighting in reality is a different, more powerful Ichigo, Ichigo will have the upper hand.
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>>140993757
My man Tessai will join the fight with Isshin and Ryuken.
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>>140997535

>Implying Urahara won't show up, see giant Miracle Lazer Condom Gerard, pull out a button, press it, and Ururu comes flying at Gerard at a million miles an hour obliterating him.
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>>140993757
What about Yumichika? He can absorb his power, but he's too weak to do that
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>>140997160
1. Up until now, Hashbrown has been fighting with His Majesty's gifts. Obviously even staying alive has been a challenge for Ishida. Now, even if Hashbrowns innate power is more suitable for combat, he can't see the future anymore.

2. Ishida probably knows that and may have been holding back until this moment.

3. Ishida is fighting the penultimate boss. This is his fight and if you think he's going to job, you are nuts
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>>140993572
Kubo's on the throne in the dream.
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>>140997726
Ishida hasn't won a fight since he fought that Privaron Espada in Hueco Mundo; he's probably gonna get his ass saved by a surviving Quincy or another secondary character. Man, I remember when I thought Ishida was going to be Ichigo's Quincy counterpart and rival in strength when he was first introduced. How laughable that turned out to be.
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>>140997735
Ywach knows he's inside Kubo's bullshit manga and he's patiently awaiting the day someone kills him so he can be free.
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>>140997278

>Implying he wont explain exactly how his bankai works and give detailed instructions of how to beat it

Shinji is a moron
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>>140992212
What's the opposite for Miracle?
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>>140998428
Holy shit I never noticed this page.
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>>140998472
extremely bad luck
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>>140998546
It's not. Just because it isn't fortunate for doesn't make it any less of a miracle. The opposite of a miracle is something completely mundane, like water beats fire.
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>>140998613
*for you
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>>140998472
Harem protagonist before the start of his series.
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>>140991219
Kenpach has no Chance he would need something better than just brute strength. Only Aizen, Ichibei and maybe Mayuri can beat Gerard..
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>>140996808
>>140996808
He didn't give them their powers but he increased their power by giving them power of other sternritters.
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>>140997135
Ichigo can't kill Yhwach unless he lets him. He called dream where Ichiho kills him wonderful so he probably wants Ichigo to be his real successor.
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>>140998613
the antonyms for miracle are expectation, usualness, and nomalcy. to technically gerard should have lost to byakuyas attack
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>>140997135
Yhwach already knows about everything that will happen.
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>>140997726
>he can't see the future anymore.
He should remember what he saw when he still had it.
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Does anyone remeber the chains Pernida had? Pernida was only able to evolve once Kenpachi cut them. Maybe those chains are anti-god chais that can bind a god. Maybe Squad Zero or a member of the five noble families posseses those.
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>>140998472
Despair
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>>140998472
Aizen's power which defies reason.
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>>140999180
man aizen would reck everyone in this series.
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>>140992613
>>140993265

>What the fuck is wrong with this image
>Uryu has been fightning a guy with Almighty powers
>Looks basically broken up

Gee, I wonder WHY he looks like that.
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>>140997399
Current Ichigo is but a gnat compared to his dengai version. Current Ichigo isn't transendent and got fodderized by Askin.
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>>140997056
Shit, that's still happening? I thought that fight ended and I forgot the result
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>>140993757
>THIS MOTHERFUCKER EXPLICITLY SAYS "I GET STRONGER EVERYTIME YOU CUT ME DOWN"
and you believe him? Why would he reveal the secret of his ability?
Obviously if he says that it's because he doesn't want people to cut him
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>>140999405
Even post Dangai ichigo would have lost to Askin.
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>>140999320
Yea Aizen never lost and was always stronger than Ichigo even when Ichigo had temporarily higher reiatsu. Didn't use bankai or even shikai on Ichigo and was sealed only because he wanted to lose like Thanos.
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>>140993757
>AND THIS MOTHERFUCKER EXPLICITLY SAYS "I GET STRONGER EVERYTIME YOU CUT ME DOWN"

Actually, Hitsugya froze Gerald solid. Byakuya basically massacred him while frozen.

Plus this final image of Gerald looks very weak. Like it's barely coming back together now. I wouldn't be surprised if he's so weak that Soi Fon could use her Suzmibachi to kill him since his reiatsu is severely down.
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>>140999517
nah he would overpowered askins ability by just swinging his hand. even urahara withstood his abilities till the very end.
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>>140999679
He didnt use the same attack against Urahara as he did Ichigo, it wasn't as concentrated. Powerlevels don't mean anything against Quincy
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>>140999805
what about yoruichi? she was still standing after getting hit with the gift ball
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>>140990067
I wonder if respira could overcome miracle since it was stated to be the absolute ability.
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>>140992434
But he cant into reishi manipulation.
How?
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>>140999893
Like I said, he used the poison bath on Ichigo, not gift ball.
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the only one who can beat gerrard is hanatarou.
gerrard gets stronger the more he is cut.
hanatarous can heal any damage and uses it to make his sword stronger.
He needs to go there and start healing gerrard, reverting him to his weaker form
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>>140999805
Gift ball would be destroyed by dengai ichigo reiatsu and it wouldn't affect transcendent anyway. I also doubt Askin can adapt to transcendent reiatsu but dengai Ichigo's brute strength was enough to instantly kill him either way.
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>>141000051
oh ok i see your point. you have to be in the radius tho. ichigos dumbass whould have died right there.
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>>141000167
Law of reiatsu doesn't apply to reishi attacks.

>>141000179
Yes Ichigo made a mistake of trying to take on Askin at close range
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>>141000051
>>141000179
Askin poisons seem to be reiatsu based unlike Mayuri's so they wouldn't affect Ichigo.
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>>140993757
The plan was that by being frozen his miracle power would stop working.
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>>141000258
>>Law of reiatsu doesn't apply to reishi attacks.

What it does and Askin abilities wouldn't work on higher dimensional beings.
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>>140993572
YHWACH IS THE ARCHITECT. ICHIGO IS NEO
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So, Isshin, Ryuken and Tessai are fucking broken right? Like, pre-Hogyoku Aizen level at least?

Although Urahara was a huge disappointment so they might not be that strong
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>>141000331
Askin is a higher dimensional being
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What if Yhwach brainwash Ichigo and Aizen will have to stop both Ichigo and Yhwach himself?
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>>141000276
If its a Quincy power it is reishi. Quincies only manipulate reishi
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>>141000428
No he is a regular quincy on the same level of power as shinigami. He is powerless before someone multiple dimensions above shinigami. Even Yhwach haven't displayed transcendent level reiatsu.
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>>141000373

Isshin is pretty clearly Aizen level. He had the advantage for the duration of their battle.
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>>141000472
No they clearly have spiritual pressure(reiatsu).
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>>141000567
He is probably slightly below shinigami Aizen. He had advantage over tired Aizen who wasn't using shikai.
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>>141000534
Yhwach is the son of the Soul King, the literal definition of a transcendent.

>>141000575
They have Reiatsu but their attacks are based on reishi manipulation, it was explained in the very first arc
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>>141000713
Their attacks are based on reiatsu though they can manipulate reiashi to an extent.
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Just as expected, victory is within our grasp.

Also, where the fuck is Aizen? Who is he gonna fight? Will Kubo shit on all of us and keep him in the sidelines during the climax?
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aizen is gonna pop out any minute now announcing his bankai has been active this whole time. and hes gonna kill bach. all according to plan
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>>141000831
This is not the climax. This is more of a half-way point.
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>>141000713
Neither Yhwach nor Soul King was stated to be transcendent and neither has shown the ability to disintegrate people wth their reiatsu like the true transcendent Aizen can.
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>>141000758
They literally aren't, its the defining aspect of all Quincy.
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>>141000831
i love kubos art.
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>>141000889
You're retarded. Soul kings reiatsu is literally what transcendency is. Aizens transformation was merely an imitation of that power.
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>>140993653
It's not even a matter of power levels, it's just having to see this stuff go on for fucking ever.
>smug banter
>clash swords a bit
>"what gave you the illusion that I didn't have a new asspull up my sleeve"
>one of the combatants looks defeated, but actually isn't
>"your asspull is no match for my asspull"
>every time a good guy is defeated a new one comes about
>back to square 1
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>>141000831

Why does ichigo have any faith in orihime's battle ability at all?

>Her attack fairy is so shit she hasn't even summoned him since soul society
>Her defence fairies are entirely dependent on her willpower and can be easily broken through if she starts to lose faith (i.e. as soon as ichigo gets fucked up by yhwach it'll fail) and her healing ability is not viable in a combat situation because it takes so long

not to mention that she has no superhuman reflexes or anything so i dont see why people wont just zip around her shield and stab her, considering everyone is moving at 8000 mph at this point
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>>140999630
I don't think it's a matter of getting weaker, just like Lille, he gets progressively more abstract and bizarre everytime he's taken down, but not necessarely weaker

His next form will be probably an ancient toucan warrior or something
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>>140993572
look closer
kubo is on the throne in the dream, this is symbolic of ichigos constant struggle against kubos asspulls that he gives ichigos enemies, the jobbing he forces him to endure, and worst of all, the amount of time spent out of panel
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>>141000904
They power is based on reiatsu but they can derive it from reishi and their reiryoku while shinigam only from reiyroku.
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>>141001021
maybe kubo plans to kill her off?
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>>141001167
Good luck sourcing that claim
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>>141000973
That's your own idea nothing about Soul King's reiatsu being transcendent was ever stated in manga and in fact Aizen easily erased those black monsters created from Soul King's reiatsu.
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>>141001300
Technically nothing in the manga inherently defines 'transcendent reiatsu' so this entire conversation is based on speculation.
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>>141000831
>Ichigo puts everything on attack, Orihime puts everything on his defense
>...nobody protects Orihime
>she's more than willing to sacrifice her life for Ichigo

Would this chapter count as a deathflag?
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>>141000831

>he thinks this is going to be the end
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>Ichigo uses the Final Getsuga Tenshō and attacks Aizen with Mugetsu. Aizen survives the blast, regenerating from a large wound dealt to him, but remains heavily damaged. No longer recognizing the weakened Aizen as its master, the Hōgyoku causes his Zanpakutō to disintegrate, though he mistakes it for thinking he no longer needs one.

First for Kubo makes the story come full circle and brings it back to the importance of the Hogyoku.

Hogyoku left Aizen for Ichigo sensing Ichigo was the true pimp, having all the bullshit powers and blood lines that Ichigo does, and having the Hogyoku is what allows Ichigo to get past Hitlers future visions
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>>141001492
It's defned as being so high that it can't be affected by weaker ones and can destroy weaker spiritual bodies and matter.
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>>141000904

Quincy don't rely on their own spirit power for attacks. The take it from the environment in the form of reshi. That's their defining ability.

Spirit particles are matter.
Spirit power is energy.
Spirit pressure is force caused by the use of spirit power.

Quincy can convert spirit particles into spirit power for use in energy based attacks which hurt things based on the force of the spirit pressure.
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>>140993706
No, it's just a dream he had without the Almighty, as Haschwaldt has the A when Yhwach's asleep.
Ichigo's not the only one who regressed in the dream, Yhwach doesn't have the soul king absorbed in it.
And I doubt it's foreshadowing to Yhwach losing his powers since it's unreasonable to expect Ichigo to go back to his cooler but fake Zangetsu.
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>>140994084
If anything, your post proves your own point wrong.
X-axis was Lille's original schrift, but he didn't have enough power to bring out its true ability until the power up, judging from the dialogue.
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>>140996740
The only reason this happens is because IchiRuki fags hate it whenever she is brought up.
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>>141001021
he doesnt. thats why he told her to GTFO
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>>141001672
No it isn't, its not defined whatsoever.

>>141001714
Once again, good luck sourcing that becuase you're going against the canon right now.
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>>141001300
Aizen's weaker you dumbshit.
It's implied by the Monk, Ishida, and Ichigo himself, that he won't be able to defeat Yhwach.
He at least had some confidence against Aizen after his dad gave him pep talk.
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>>141001923
Shitposting is shitposting, anon. Quality posting is not biased towards the will of shippers.
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>>140994133
She's obviously on her way to his location. At least based on what Urahara said. She will have one more big moment before the end of the manga.
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>>141001965

Can you provide any evidence to the contrary? All I remember them saying is that quincy do not rely on their internal power for attacks.
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>>141001714
No they mostly use their own reiryroku like eveyone else. They use reishi to form their weapons and hirenkyaku but other than Ishida and Kirge the majority of quincies don't really use any reishi manipulation except for forming weapons.
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>>141002207
Start at Quincy Archer Hates You and keep reading from there.
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>>140994133
She got rekt by Thor, or shot by Lille.
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>>141002207
Then you remember it wrong or those early chapters were wrong because we know now that they have spiritual pressure like everyone else.
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>>141002266
All Quincy powers are inherently Reishi Manipulation, even the Scrift, unless you have a source claiming otherwise.
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>>141002337
They have Reiatsu but they fight using Reishi constructs and manipulation.
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>all those shipperfags thinking it will be a shipperfag ending
>tfw it's a harem ending
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>>141000167
Fuck off, Aizen's stronger than he was back then, and even Underbelly's power worked on him.
Quilge was getting his shit handed to him by Ayon, and he still absorbed him completely.
Being more powerful won't save you against Quincy powers.
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>>141002126
fucks sake. dont people realise theyre soul bonded like isshin and masaki? maybe even moreso. we still have no idea about hisanas background. rukia gave her soul to ichigo in chapter 1. shes a giver quincy. hes a receiver quincy.
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>>141002348
Then so is any power used by shikai/bankai since we know shunpo uses reishi. Like I said we know now they have their own spiritual pressure.
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>>141002435

You know what? Fuck Ichigo, I want to see Orihime x Rukia yuri ending.
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>>141002499
>shes a giver quincy
And you are retarded
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>>141002501
You're just going in circles at this point, I suggest you start rereadingfrom Karakura town and come back when you get some reading comprehension
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>>141002454
It worked on him because his reiatsu is sealed and due to this had holes. I remember they even said that it's impressive he barely took any damage from it despite his reiatsu being suppressed to the utmost level.
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jesuschrist Kubo please
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>>141002586
Post relevant scans or shut up and you're going in circles according to the newest available info they have spiritual pressure(at different levels) just like shinigami and hollows.
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I ONLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO URAHARA
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O-Orihime will heal the turncoat Quincy, r-right?
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>>141002924
He's alive and preparing for his final keikaku
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>>141002580
Shes just like Jugo. Every time he needed it she gave him power.
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>>141002302

I don't have time to do that right now. (I'm at work.) Can you please post the page? Its OK if you don't.
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>>141001607
exactly what I was thinking, this was Orihime's deathflag chapter.
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>>141002811
You're too stupid to be alive.
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Recently in a Bleach: Brave Souls developer meeting

>Guys, we need to come up with new 5-Star characters to appease our customers
>We already have all the captains and three Byakuya's
>I got an idea!
>Lets add... TWO Byakuyas more!
>AND A FOOTBALLER KARIN!
and they continued to make gorillions of money.

i just want a 5-Star Rukia... this isn't fair ;_;
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>>141003082
I'm not spoonfeeding you, anon. Also at work btw :>)
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>>141002811

They have it but they don't use it for their attacks. They take it from external sources. Hence ishida powering up in SS and hueco mundo. Hence ishida destroying structures when he released his sanrei glove. Hence ishida using ichigos power to augment his bow to fight the first menos.
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>>141003384
They spiritual pressure from their bodies except for rare cases like when Ishida absorbed buidings during his fight with Mayuri, Kirge Allon/Ayon and for forming weapons.
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>>141003219
chinese bootleg game have more characters then licensed one...
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>>141003724
Anon, stop.
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>>141003724

It was stated that ishida got a boost in power from the extra spirit particle density in hueco mundo. Its because he uses that for his attacks.
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We know Aizen can fuck with Ywach's perception does this override his almighty sight?
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>>141002707
Doesn't matter how it worked, the point is that it still worked on Aizen who was stronger than ever.
The point being that being powerful doesn't save you from quincy abilities, no matter how transcendent you are.
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>>141003989
They become stronger in spiritualy rich environment but use their own reiryoku as well/
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>>141004366
That would mean disintegrating their own body for power.

Which insofar hasn't happened, but would make for a nice surprise. Some use for those lost arms Kubo loves.
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>>141004320
No, Yhwach is the strongest character ever shown in the series bar the Soul King.
Almighty doesn't let him perceive all, it lets him know all.
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>>141004440

No they can use spirit power directly as when ichigo powered up ishidas bow with his retard strength spirit power.
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>>140990067
Only reason to hate this chapter would be if you hate Bleach (acceptable) or is an Ichiruki fag (unacceptable, according to Kubo himself).
The plot has advanced as much as the past 30 chapters combined in this one chapter.
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>>141004495
>13:11:43
But then wouldn't he know that Ichigo's power is different? Does he actually know all or can he only see futures based on information he already knows?
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>>141004355
Unsealed Aizen can solo all sternritters with zero effort. No one can touch him. It worked because his reiatsu was sealed and porous. At full power he is invicible.
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>Inoue's elated that she finally gets to fight alongside Ichigo
>Next chapter she can barely move because she's paralyzed by their spiritual power
>yfw
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>>141004575
...you might be onto something here, but it's not about Quincies using their own inner power.
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>>141004690
>Next chapter opens with the stain that was Orihime Inoue
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>>141004495
He ain't shit to Aizen that's why Aizen wasn't released yet because he would stomp Yhwach and all sternritters.
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>>141004665
It was just a dream, he doesn't have the Almight in his dreams, it's given to Hasch.
>>141004677
Underbelly's powers work on weakpoints in reiatsu, Askin's power doesn't need that.
Aizen might be able to beat everyone, but Pernida's, and especially Lille's powers, will also be able to harm Aizen.
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>>141004755
Yes they do power of their abilitie depends on their internal spiritual pressure like everyone's else.
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>>141004677
>[citation needed]
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>>141004777
Do you not understand how much this narrative has been hyping Yhwach, you Aizenfag?
Ichibei, Yhwach, and Ishida all say Ichigo doesn't stand a chance against Yhwach. Ichigo doesn't even try to deny this in front of the latter two.
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>>141004812
He had weakpoints due to his seals. Lilie and Pernida would be disintegrated before they can react.
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>>141004877
>Ichibei, Yhwach, and Ishida all say Ichigo doesn't stand a chance against Yhwach

What does this have to do with Aizen? Ichigo lost his transcendent power while Aizen is stronger than when he let Ichigo win.
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>>141004979
You're a retard if you don't understand the logical implications that come with foresight.
You're destined to win at this point.
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>>141004901
see >>141004825
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ichigo will have to break the attachment from his soul to his real world body to defeat yhwach
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>>141002523
Everything is better than Renruki, so I'm fine with that
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>>141005030
Just because you can see future doesn't mean you will win of oponent is too powerful.
You wouldn't beat Galactus even you knew he is going to blow up Earth.
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So, I can see Ishida was holding back his A power waiting for Toofsy losing the Almighty, but what happened with "Ishida's arrows should be way more powerful than mine's"?
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>>141005090
It was heavily implied by NANANA that these holes in reiatsu were due to his seals.
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>>141004608
>The plot has advanced as much as the past 30 chapters combined in this one chapter
What exackly happened, aside from confirmation that thor is still alive? Besides, the art was pure shit except for Orihime panels
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Incoming 6-pointed star - Orihime hairpins maximum Kubo in the following chapters
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>>141005191
I meant
>Lilie and Pernida would be disintegrated before they can react.

Citation needed.
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>>141005131
Holy shit, use your brain a little.
If I can see the future PERFECTLY, I'm not going to see myself losing.
Example:
1) I see myself trying to hook Galactus with my left arm, and getting killed.
2) I choose not to hook Galactus.
3) That means my foresight wasn't truly perfect.
4) Only future I can see is the one I will find acceptable.
Having foresight doesn't lead to being strong. Rather it goes hand in hand in terms, neither being cause or effect.
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>>141004824
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>>141004495

except Mimihagi proved that wrong.

This is a shonen manga, we can only hope that however Ichigo beats Juha is extremely cool and not too ridiculous.
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>>141005348
Further proof from a more recent chapter, as per request
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>>141005351
Keywords: BAR the soul king.
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>>141004812
>>141004901
Lille could probably pierce a hole through Aizen. But Aizen would just regenerate. If Aizen has in-built Kyouka Suigetsu's power, then Lille is fucked

Full powered Black Coffin would be interesting against all the Elite Quincies, for various reasons, mostly because of its usage of gravity to deal damage
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>>141005403
Or Lille could use an area wide version of X-axis, like Trompete.
The gravity is just the side effect, of the density of Black Coffin, that's not Black Coffin's primary utility.
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>>141005485
Still, if Lille is made of light (we don't really know how he works), black coffin's gravity may fuck him up
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>>141005399

True, but it is kind of lame how Ukitake's situation was not made known to Juha, I mean, clearly he had the ability to see the private lives of the Gotei captains. Did he really not see Ukitake ever mention Mimihagi or stuff like that? An invisible person may still be visible because of their clothes. I find it odd that Mimihagi could shroud Ukitake in secrecy. That's why I think Almighty must have a variety of shortcomings.
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>>141005535
Doubt Black Coffin would work on Lille, he's immune to Kido.
Aizen could fight Lille by shooting pure reiatsu at him, so they'd have a pretty even fight.
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>>141005297
He is transcendent ,they aren't so he reiatsu wipes them simple.
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>>141005485
>>141005403
Wouldn't work on Aizen his reiatsu would neutralize X Axis and Trumpet.
>>141005535
>>141005571
I doubt he is immune to kido ido but Aizen would kill him with his reiatsu.
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>>141005624
>[citation needed]

Quincy use Reishi for their attacks, therefore 'law of Reiatsu' does not apply. Have you even been reading the thread? See >>141005348
and >>141005386
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>>141005720
see >>141005720
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>>141005571
I don't think he's "immune to Kido", as if Kido were a "property". More like he's immune to impact/contact attacks, being them Kido based or physical.

He basically has noclip hax
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>>141004824

Maybe they can, but the primary source is from outside, so they don't have to be spirit power monsters to be strong.
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>>141005723
You are a moron in thi panel it say quincy combine reishi with their own spiritual pressure and they are under laws of reiatsu like anyone else. They can boost their reiatsu with additional reishi but it's not infinite.
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>>140990067
>full body susano
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>>141005815
In Lille's final form, he's immune to everything but his own power. He only became vulnerable to attacks once the Mirror Sword is used to sever his connection to Yhwach.
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>>141005253
Well, what exactly happened in the past 30 chapters, besides unimportant characters dying?
At least here, we get Yhwach and Ichigo confronting each other, without having to read through castle filler, as well as Hasch getting his B back.
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>>141005720
You are severely understimating Lille. Dude's practically a God, and has similar skills to trascendant Aizen

Aizen's reiatsu only obliterates people who are way less powerful than him. I still think Aizen is more powerful than Lille, but the difference is not enough for him to brush him off like nothing

Lille is EXTREMELY overpowered and could have soloed the whole Bleach plot if it weren't for the magical sword (which probably was used to split the Soul King's parts)
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>>141005871
>he thinks Reiryoku is Reiatsu

You're the moron, anon.
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>>141005908
The only thing he is really immune to are physical attacks. Shunsui bankai hurt him and Aizen's alpowerful reiatsu would kill him. Reason and abilities mean nothing to Aizen.
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>>141005943
>Hasch is more comfortable using the B
He truly is a Bottom fuccboi
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>>141006010

Spirit power is like air. If you jam a bunch of it in a small space or move a lot of it at once it creates a pressure. That's what spirit pressure is, the force caused by dense spirit power emissions.
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>>141006094
>Shunsui bankai hurt him

That wasn't his Final Form, anon.
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>>141005347
>If I can see the future PERFECTLY, I'm not going to see myself losing.

Hahahaha holy shit have you lost it?
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>>141005943
Come on, you don't really believe this is final confrontation? My bet is on a some exposition talk, a little fighting when Ichigo realizes he's a scrub, someone bails him out and he runs with his tail between legs. There's literally nothing at stake now and unless Yhwah kills Orihime off or gives her and Ichigo another trauma this whole fight could be pretty much skipped
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>>141006279
He was already untouchable by then
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>>141006094

As I recall kido did nothing.
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>>140993386
...go on.
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>>141006272
Quincy don't imbue their weapons or attacks with Reiatsu though, they use a combination of their own Reiryoku and free Reishi. Thus the 'law of Reiatsu' (which isn't actually a law, just sort of a popular theory) doesn't apply to battles between Quincy and Shinigami.
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>>141006330
Holy shit you're retarded.
Did you even read the rest of the post.
It's not about winning by being strong, it's about being predetermined to win.
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>>141006010
Reiyoku is inside body so if wahat they combine with reishi to form weapons must be reiatsusince since weapons exist outside their bodies. Besides Hitsugaya can freeze Haffnung and even Gerard's reishi bow and Mayuri can repel Pernida's nerves with his reiatsu so powerful enough reiatsu stops quincy attacks.
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>>141006366
Then your point is...?
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>>141006354
>new powerup: true real power unlocked
check
>knows his roots
check
>final stage: god's palace
check
>Hero's team gets paired with enemies while hero runs to the final boss
check
>Elite 4 beaten
check (sorta ongoing)

I dunno, it really looks like the final fight. It's just Kubo is shit at setting its tone
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>>141006444
>Besides Hitsugaya can freeze Haffnung and even Gerard's reishi bow and Mayuri can repel Pernida's nerves with his reiatsu so powerful enough reiatsu stops quincy attacks.

That's not what is being discussed here, anon. We're specifically talking about whether or not Quincy imbue their attacks with Reiatsu, which the source material states to be untrue.
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>>141006448
>He was already "untouchable"
>Shunsui's bankai worked

See? my point is, he's only immune to "on hit" based skills, magical or otherwise. Conceptual powers still apply
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>>141006371
What kido I don't remember any kido probably some weak one.
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>>141006585
>Shunsui's bankai worked
>implying
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>>141006424
You are calling other people retarded when you are saying the ability to change the future is the same as seeing the future. Go kill yourself, like seriously. There is no future where you can win against Galactcus. There can be a difference in strength so big where even if you know 100% exactly whats coming it doesn't matter.
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>>141006671
>Lille got tired of having a human head so he blew it up and grew an owl-mushroom head
this is how retarded you sound

I'm not saying it killed him, I'm saying it damaged him. And it did.
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>>141006710
You're the retarded one.
I wouldn't be able to see the future unless I was strong enough to be Galactus, or unless Galactus wasn't planning on destroying me in the first place.
>predetermination = changing the future
Ok, so you're a dumb high schooler who hasn't even taken an intro logic course in undergrad. Good to know.
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>>141006760
>I'm not saying it killed him

If it didn't kill Lille, then it didn't work. Shunsui's Bankai is not supposed to 'hurt', it's supposed to kill. That couldn't possibly have been more clear.
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>>140990067
Byakuya will end this with the White Imperial Sword, it's too obvious.
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>>141006710
So, you're basically one of those retards who didn't understand the third Matrix movie?
Good to know, anon.
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>>141006812
>>141006710
strong enough to *beat Galactus
Or the fourth option, if I wanted Galactus to kill me all along.
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>>141006526
> It's just Kubo is shit at setting its tone
He can't be that shit though. Why have Gerard get back on his feet when capitains aren't in shape for fight anyway? You could cross then out of final fight with a simple "looks like we leave it to you Ichigo", but instead they or someone else will have to put Gerard down and thus taking focus away from Ichigo's fight. If Kubo wanted this confrontation to be final, the least he could do is get back to Ichigo after Gerard and Ishida/Hashwalth are down
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>>141006570
Reiryoku is the amount of energy a being has stored within their body or soul, whereas Reiatsu is the pressure that a person’s Reiryoku exerts. In other words, Reiryoku is potential while Reiatsu is energy in use and can be sensed by other spiritually aware beings Reiatsu of quincies can be sensed and they even reiatsu crush others,
>>141005348
According to this scan shinigami use their spiritual power through zanpaktou while
quincy use reishi combined with their spiritual power(nowhere does it state they don't use reiatsu) to form weapons but they clearly exert reiatsu like anyone else. Only difference is shinigami use their own ower while quincies use their own power+ambient reishi
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>>141006852
You are stubborn, aren't you? Again, Shunsui's Bankai worked on him. He just regenerated. It didn't pass straight through him with no effect, like all other attacks did.

>>141006812
dude. DUDE what the fuck is wrong with you?
let's say you have the power to see the future. Okay. Now it turns out the Earth's core is GOING TO BLOW UP IN THREE SECONDS

What can you possibly do? All you can do is see what is going to happen during those 3 seconds. And any possible action you could take will end with the same result, Earth blowing up, and you dead. See? just becuase you can see the future doesn't mean you can reach any kind of future you might like
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>>141007060
You still have yet to show any example of Quincy using Reiatsu in their attacks; without this you literally have no argument.
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Why y'all niggas still reading this shit
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>>140990067
This is like the fucking Lille fight all over again...

Who is even left to do an asspull this time? Shinji? Renji? Speaking of which, where the hell did they disappear to?
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>>141006812
>You're a retard if you don't understand the logical implications that come with foresight.

>You're destined to win at this point.

Is what was said. You were somehow implying that forsight makes you "destined" to just automatically win. And now you are making up some shit called "predetermination" which doesn't come into play at all with what we were talking about.

>>141006934
Please explain how that has anything to do with the power of foresight being able to save you in a 1v1 fight against someone who is unfathomably stronger then you. Oh inb4
>haha if u dont understand im not gonna explain
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>tfw all the yoruichi fanart is gonna start drying up now that she's done her part
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>>141007037
To be honest, even if it weren't the final confrontation, it's kind of a dick move from Kubo to force the Gerard battle to keep going and steal the focus when the MC is against the goddamn final boss.
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>>141006812
>I wouldn't be able to see the future unless I was strong enough to be Galactus, or unless Galactus wasn't planning on destroying me in the first place.

Seeing future and being strong enough has no no correlation.
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>>141007083
No, then it would be impossible for me to see the future in the first place (a logical fallacy like 1 + 1 = 3).
Or my foresight isn't infalliable like Yhwach's (no reason to suggest his isn't outside of seeing Soul King).
Last example I'm going to give, before giving up on your dumbass:
1) I see myself taking a left step, then dying from the Earth's explosion.
2) I don't like what I see, so I choose to take a right step before dying.
3) Because (2) happened, instead of what I saw, that means my foresight isn't actually PERFECT, or I wouldn't have foresight in the first place (even the smallest detail matter if the foresight is perfect).
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>>141007083
>You are stubborn, aren't you? Again, Shunsui's Bankai worked on him. He just regenerated. It didn't pass straight through him with no effect, like all other attacks did.

You're essentially just hammering in the point that Aizen would be unable to defeat Lille, since he'll just regenerate like he did against Shunsui and still can't win without the Mirror Sword.
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>>141007241
You wouldn't get into a fight with someone stronger than you, if you had foresight. Or you don't have foresight. Or you want to die.
Changing even the smallest detail (like the last few moments before you die) would mean your foresight wasn't perfect in the first place.
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So, do you think now is the time Ryuuken finally steps in to help his idiot son?
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>>141007136
They reiatsu when they fire any attacks. Reiatsu isn't visible faggot unless someone power up or try to reiatsu crush and Yhwach can do it. Any spiritual power outside of body is reiatsu and they shown ability to emit it like shinigami.
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>>141007335
>>141007083
Or (4), it was predetermined that the earth would never explode.
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>>141007336
He wouldn't regenerate since nothing would be left of him after making contact with Aizen's reiatsu. Gerard won't regenerate either because his spiritual body will be destroyed.
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>>141007508
>Any spiritual power outside of body is reiatsu
Unless it's Reishi, which all Quincy weapons and attacks are...
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>>141007241
>Making up predetermination
Google it, it's a simple philosophical concept that's widely accepted.
Foresight could not exist without predetermination.
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>>141007631
>[citation needed]
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>>141007335
>>141007446
>foresight means the entire universe bends to your will and nothing bad or out of your control will ever happen

Really bruh? That isn't foresight, that's reality warping. Being able to see the future means I can see something bad happen to someone on the other side of the planet, but being unable to actually do anything about it. Because there is physical limitations.
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>>141007335
Being able to see the future means being able to change that outcome. It means being able to see the consequences of your actions before you perform them. Perfect clairvoyance in itself is a logical paradox, because unless you were incapable of making choices, the moment you see the future, it should be possible for you to make changes. Just the knowledge of that future alone should enable that.
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>>141007698
Reishi combined with reiatsu.
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Quincy don't really use reiatsu and even gathering a huge amount of reishi doesn't give them a big boost in reiryoku.

Proof?
Yhwach himself had to absorb mimihage to get it's spiritual power cause he couldn't get more powerful otherwise.
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>>141007792
Look at this anon's comment >>141007798 and realize how broken perfect clairvoyance is so broken, logic itself is fucked up (similar to traveling back in time).
Which is why in Christian philosophy, only God has clairvoyance (He is content with His world), and gifts images to his prophets at times. Bleach, is making a lot of references to Christianity in this last arc.
>Reality warping
Nice comic book term used by nerds who have never picked a basic philosophy book.
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>>141007904
Reishi combined with Reiryoku, actually.
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>>141007712
>Predeterminism is the idea that all events are determined in advance.[1][2] Predeterminism is the philosophy that all events of history, past, present and future, have been already decided or are already known (by God, fate, or some other force), including human actions.

Clairvoyance
>The term clairvoyance (/klerˈvɔɪəns/)[1] (from French clair meaning "clear" and voyance meaning "vision") is the alleged ability to gain information about an object, person, location or physical event through extrasensory perception.[2][3] A person who has this ability is called a clairvoyant (/klerˈvɔɪənt/)[4] ("one who sees clearly").

Foresight
>the ability to predict or the action of predicting what will happen or be needed in the future.

I fail to see how Foresight or Clairvoyance
rely on predetermination to exist.
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>>141007908
What Yhwach absorbing Mimihagi has to do with quincy using or not reiatsu? Yhwach got stronger from absorbing him because he is part of Soul King.
By they way Aizen reiatsu destroys spiritual bodies therefore can destroy reishi itself.
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>>141007792
The universe isn't bending to your will.
Rather, what will happen is just what you will.
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>>141007255
>no doujins of her raping her brother
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>>141008234
Look at >>141007798.
If the future can be changed, how can it be predicted, unless the clairvoyance was imperfect?
Only determinism allows it.
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>>141007255

>all the yuushiro porn fanart is by one artist, and he has a humoungous cock

Almost as dumb as oppai loli.
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>>141008269
>therefore can destroy reishi itself.
[citation needed]
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>>141008500
Spiritual bodies I made from reishi and they cease to exist near him he can also erase matter too.
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>>141008601
>he can also erase matter too.
GG no re
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>>141008675
Both spiritual and physical matter.
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>Another week of shit
This is now a public request to the mods
Just fucking delete threads like this
I'm tired of redditors and one piss fags making this thread
IF YOU DON'T FUCKING LIKE BLEACH DON'T FUCKING READ IT
>hur dur azzbull XD
>even bleach fans hate bleach XDDD
back to r/OnePiss with you
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>>141007798
>Perfect clairvoyance in itself is a logical paradox, because unless you were incapable of making choices, the moment you see the future, it should be possible for you to make changes.
Which is exactly why someone with perfect clairvoyance is broken (possibly Yhwach), you get my point now don't you?
It means, what you see will happen is the most ideal situation possible, that there is no way you would do anything other than what you see.
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>>141008749
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass
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>>141008781
Don't complain about low posting quality when you're clearly not even trying.
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>>141008786
That's not clairvoyance. That's just an ideal fate. And if you're actively creating the future you wish for, that's no longer SEEING the future but CREATING it.

Perfect clairvoyance would be seeing a future and being completely unable to do anything about it because it's absolute. Whether it's good or bad, there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop it. It's logically impossible because everyone is capable of making some level of choice, unless you were completely paralyzed and had absolutely no means to affect anything in anyway.
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>>140990067
Someone edit this so that it says
"THE ASSPULLS... NEVER CEASE ..."

Is he going to finally put this series out of its misery?
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>>141009053
Yes, and you wouldn't have perfect clairvoyance unless you had an ideal fate (Yhwach) or were incapable of doing anything (Soul King).
Having perfect clairvoyance without one of those two is a logical paradox, just like you said.
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Orihime having a death flag by focusing on protecting Ichigo is possible. Yhwach could do a sneak attack on her when Ichigo is gaining the upper hand on him to destroy Ichigo Morale. Orihime dying in front of his eyes could be used as a trauma for Ichigo to feel powerless again like the time he couldn't save his mother from being eaten by grandfisher allowing Yhwach to finish Ichigo off but of course that's not going to happen because of plot-armor.
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>>141009112
It's already been established that Gerard can't be killed by physical means.

It would have been a bigger asspull if he had died.
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>>141008370
>If the future can be changed, how can it be predicted, unless the clairvoyance was imperfect?
>Only determinism allows it.
Ok so if everything is predetermined, the power of foresight or clairvoyance lets you see into the future.

However if it was predetermined that, for example an asteroid,world ending war,huge disaster etc etc. was going to happen within 1 day after discovering the ability of clairvoyance/foresight what can you do? Nothing.

That would be called fate.

What you are saying is that for you to have foresight/clairvoyance fate itself would of have to of been predetermined to be perfect for you. And at that point if fate is predetermined to be that perfect for you why do you need foresight or clairvoyance?


And that makes absolutely no fucking sense, do you understand now?
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>>141009214
That's cause it is a logical paradox. It's powerful because it wouldn't happen normally.
You COULDN'T be clairvoyant in the first place if something bad was fated to happen that you wanted to prevent.
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>>141009184
Such a power would be meaningless.

Clairvoyance only has meaning if you can change the outcome. If you can only see an ideal future, if it's all predetermined, then there's no meaning in having clairvoyance. Whether you have clairvoyance or not, your actions will ultimately result in the future you wish for. It's a meaningless, superfluous power.

Furthermore, the fact that the bearer still has the power of choice, just the fact that a choice exists at all, means that the outcome isn't absolute. Because if the bearer were to, for whatever reason, even on a completely random whim, change the course of his so-called "predetermined actions", then the end result would ultimately change as well. As long as the bearer has that choice, as long as the bearer is capable of choice in any way, the future is not predetermined, because he's still ultimately CHOOSING to follow the route that he sees.

So, again, paradox. Your concept of "perfect clairvoyance" does not exist.
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>>141009214
Basically, look at >>141009053 and
>>141009184.
Only someone with an ideal fate would be clairvoyant in the first place, not vice versa.
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>>141009446
The power is meaningless. Having it is just a sure sign of your inevitable victory.
Yhwach is broken, therefore he has clairvoyance; not the other way around.
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>>141008941

Its really conservation of mass-energy. He could obliterate matter so thoroughly that it ceases to be matter and becomes energy.
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>>141009580
But can he see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
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>>141009542
The point is as long as he has the power of choice, it is not absolute clairvoyance. He is CHOOSING to follow what he sees. If he were to, for any reason at all, diverge from the path laid out before him, then that would completely destroy your argument.

The only way for his clairvoyance could be perfect is if the choice of disobeying his laid out future was taken away from him completely. But that would mean that he has no free will. That he is on a railroad track pre-made for him and that he has no power to change his course in any way. Even if it's not an ideal choice and there's no reason to do it, the choice of self-destruction is still a choice. As long as that choice exists, it's not an absolute predetermined path.
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>>141009785
It's not ABSOLUTE clairvoyance, only the Soul King has it (which is why he is helpless in crystal).
But the fact that he has the opportunity to choose to go along this ideal path that fate has laid for him shows why he's the strongest fucking character in the series.
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>>141007336
Aizen destroyed the Kototsu just by standing close to it. That's far above Mirror Sword which can't do shit to the Kototsu as it's still a Shinigami power.
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>>141009891
Apples and oranges, anon. Lille specifically can't defeated by anything but his own power.
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>>141009879
In any case, we know the Almighty is not perfect clairvoyance. We know this because Haschwalth's prediction that he'd defeat Ishida before dawn was proven to be incorrect.
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>>140993572
>What does it mean?
It means Kubo misses the fun and easy times with Ichigo and Rukia shinigami shenanigans.
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>>141009950
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>>140993078
Top kek
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>>141010000
Well, I can't argue against quads.
But Ishida implied Haschwalth didn't fully grasp the Almighty.
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>>140993572
Shouldn't the sword be bigger?
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Have people thought about the possibility that it was just a normal dream? Haschwalth had the Almighty at that time. The more important thing is that Yhwach was happy about the "nightmare".
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>>141010050
>Lille specifically can't defeated by anything but his own power.
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>>141007228
Shinji is gonna make his revival powers work in reverse and the Miracle is gonna kill himself instead of revive.
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>>141010083
Yeah, read the thread, that's long been established. It's not what we care about anymore.
Right now it's just people arguing about Chair-sama vs Nigger God Goose, and some philosophical debate on determinism and Yhwach.
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>>141002126
>She will have one more big moment before the end of the manga
Her final moment of encouragement with Ichigo to give him his final power up will probably make me cry.
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>>141001021
Free power up for Ichigo if she gets hurt or killed.
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So how are Rukiafags dealing with the fact they lost?
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>>140992613
Are you retarded? Go stand in front of a mirror and pull your arms back. Whoooo your arms are vanishing! Fucking dipshit.
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>>141010075
We also know it's not perfect because there are variables in the world capable of interfering with it. He could not anticipate the arrival of the Soul King's arm. Ichigo also appears to be an unknown variable. As long as those variables exist, it cannot be perfect.
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>>141010000

Ishida has the A as well so he may be partially immune to its sight.
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>>141010104
>Aizen can destroy reason itself
What Lille does doesn't matter.
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>>141010197
>ichigo has to stab rukia to release his final power
pottery
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>>141010399
What Aizen does doesn't matter to Lille. Lille isn't powered by 'reason', he's powered by God.
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>>141001233
I can only imagine the chaos. It would truly be a wonderful day if she died and stay died.
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>>141010269
Nowhere has it been said that he could not predict Ichigo, or any of the war potentials. (Almighty worked on monk).
Only times it failed were against Soul King and Ishida (when used by Haschwalt), or possibly what Yhwach meant by Ishida having something stronger than him.
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>>140998990
Because he saw it in the previous universe. But this time Ichigo is different for some reason.
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>>140990067
when is this shit gonna end
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>>141010447
>Reiatsu still harms him
Seems like the "god" isn't that strong then
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>>141010496
Of course Ichigo's an unknown variable. He's the protagonist.
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>>141010447
>implying that's not the same thing. don't they teach Aristotle anymore? Kids these days
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>>141010560
Except it clearly doesn't? Or at least can't kill him.
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>>141002316
Those feet on the opening page belong to her. She's going to show up and permanently freeze Gerard
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Someone can still beat Geralt.
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>>141010604
You mean Plato.
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>>141010637
The mirror sword is reiatsu.
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>>141010447
Lille lost his god powers.
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So Wtf is going on? Why is ywach dreaming about ichigo and why is he calling him his son of darkness?
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>>141010800
>Ichigo had his SS clothes and sword.
>It may have been a returning dream.
>In fact it may have been the dream that woke him up in the first place.

Those are my opinions.
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>>141010399
He can't even destroy a chair.
>inb4 the chair surpasses reason
Then what? He shows up, kills Miracle with Black Coffin, Byakuya, Icefag, and Kenpachi all get pulled into the Black Coffin by its gravity, and they die as collateral damage.
Aizen tries to absorb Yhwach, while Yhwach absorbs Aizen, and they end up fusing into some kind of fucking monstrosity like Tetsuo from Akira.
He grows too big and kills/assimilates Orihime, and the manga is saved?
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>>141010800
Child of darkness is a literal title for Ichigo. It refers to the fact that Yhwach cannot truly see Ichigo with the Almigthy's sight (hence the darkness).
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"Oh no, super power ups aren't working"
Looks like it's time for these fuckers to finally show up and save the day. Can't wait to see how broken these guys got.
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>>141010887
>Ywach wakes up to a dream of this kid killing him.
>Makes him War Potential 1# and rebuilds his army for an invasion.
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>>141010971

Why can't he see him?
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>>141010447
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>>140993572
>>140995742
>>140997735
>>141001136
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>>141011023
Because he's the child of darkness man
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When is Aizen going to return and say "just as planned" and BTFO ywach?
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>>141003219
You need at least 5 Byakuyas.
One for his Shikai form and the other 4 for each of his Bankai forms.
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>>141010917
That chair has more durability than the arm of the Soul King
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>>141011107
The final battle is a 2 man fight between Rukia And Ichigo vs Bach.
It'll be a grand final fight, finishing the series off where it all began, with these two.
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>>141011295
Ichigo and Rukia will do the fusion dance.
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>>141010784
Because of the Mirror Sword

>>141010748
That's objectively wrong
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>>141011036
You're about 22 volumes behind, then.
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>>141010712

No. Yfw the quincy power is "reason" in the by enforming matter as Aristotle's God does by thinking. Level 5 reader right here senpai.
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>>141011295
>>141011107
I can't wait for IchiHime to win so you fags can have a NaruSaku-esque meltdown.
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>>141011489
No one is even talking about shipping, fuck off shitposter.
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>>140990067
>Gerard still alive and more powerful
We'll probably see Shinji join the fight now.
>Ishida vs Haschwald
Kubo fucked it here, Ishida just survived the night against THE ALMIGHTY and we don't see his powerlevel, what the fuck Kubo?
>Yhwach's dream
Ichigo was his old SS self, why did he look like that? is there some sort of symbolism?

>Orihime and Ichigo
What were they doing until morning huh? Seems Ichigo enjoyed that big butt
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>>141011489
I honestly think you probably ran out of time with it. The series is almost over and nobody seems to give a fuck. Both ships will just keep their headcanon.
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>>141011721
>We'll probably see Shinji join the fight now.

You mean ShinJob? Seriously, Renji has won more fights than him.
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>>141011721
>What were they doing until morning huh?
Ran up on the stairs. Time in bleach moves at the speed of the plot.
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Gerard Valkyrie, The Miracle, will die by an attack on his Achilles tendon
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>>141011721
>We'll probably see Shinji join the fight now.
Shinji fags are truly delusional.
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>>141011764

Kubo hyped up the vizards and then shat all over them.
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>>140999405
Yhwach says that Ichigo got the power he had when he foughr Aizen back.

Speedreader shit
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>>141011878
I think the fans are more to blame than Kubo. Hachigen at least delivered.
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>>141011958

Where does he say that?
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What will /a/ do after manga ends and the anime if it gets one?
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>>141011878

Love and shinji have yet to show bankai and they're both eating dirt right now. They might get up and save everyone.
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>>141012011
Before Ichigo kills soul king
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>>141012116
Find new series to circlejerk over when they're obscure and unpopular, but then nitpick and shitpost about how terrible they are when they start becoming popular.
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When will Aizen to bankai?
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BEST CAT!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOjSMJ9_ayI
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>>141012188
>people are so retarded they don't realize Aizen already used his bankai in mugetsu chapter
>people don't realize blood war arc is just an illusion by Aizen
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>>141011848
You're retarded, we haven't seen his bankai yet and he's literally right there.
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>>141012116
kill myself probably
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>>141011791
>This damage control
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>>141012288
Could we hope for the Kishi treatment?
Ichigo's son and shit etc etc
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>>141012246
I'm still going to continue believing that Aizen used his shikai in order to trick the gotei 13 into thinking he had a bankai and he actually doesn't have one, just so that I don't get Kudo'd and disappointed when he doesn't show it.
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>>141012261
We didn't see Ukitake's Bankai either
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>>141012331
Fuck that gives me an idea
>30 year old Ichigo
>his 7 year old son asks where mom is
>Ichigo says she's in the kitchen
>Panel starts at the bottom, moves slowly up
>Its Orihime
Rukiafags on suicide watch
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>>141012331
Kishi still likes writing Naruto probably. Kubo clearly hates Bleach at this point, and he's already loaded with money so probably not.
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>>141012116
Well Gintama's in its final arc too, so I guess I'll be done with Jump by then.
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>>141012331
please no, just look at how badly they've butchered that shit. anyway, ichigo is going to die/become god, so he isn't going to have any son. bleach isn't one of those "new generation of nakama" series. it's about ichigo defeating god, when he does that the series will be over
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>>141012385
>Kubo clearly hates Bleach at this point

You're projecting, anon. Say what you want about Kubo but he clearly loves his work, maybe a little too much.
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>>141012561
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Why were the royal guard foddered without revealing their bankai?
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>>141012642
So they can be brought back by ywach and use their bankai against the surviving captains and vice captains.
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>>141012246

What was his bankai then, smart ass?
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>>141012246
>looking at aizen's zanpakuto

>do you know what that means
>do you know what that means
>do you know what that means
>do you know what that means
>do you know what that means
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>>141012592
Wow old memes anon, proud of you ;^)
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>>141012694
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>>141012698
>less than 5 chapters ago
>old
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>>140990067
I'd rather get more slow paced chapters than leetting it end in like 4 monthes. Hell, I wouldn't even mind fillers if the anime returns. I don't want it to end!
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>>141012838
That image is old as balls
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>>141013007
>Zaraki bankai
>old as balls
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>>141013165
Stale as fuck regardless, anon
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>>140993572
Wait a minute.....that card

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
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>>141012694
>>141012743
It means nothing because he didn't release it in front of Ichigo. He didn't call out its name. You can only fall under Kyoka Suigetsu's absolute hypnosis if you're present and looking at the moment it's released. Since Aizen never called out its name in front of Ichigo, it's irrelevant. And now, it's gone.
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>>140993757
The absolutely worst part about it is that when he was cut in half the last time it could be CLEARLY SEEN that there was a fucking giant quincy star floating around right before his body healed itself. And these motherfuckers were too stupid to go looking for it to destroy the CLEAR WEAK POINT.
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>>141013546
They completely destroyed the head, anon. Either the weak point moved or it's not actually a weak point.
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>>140999437
But anon, its a known fact that nobody in Bleach can explicitly lie about their abilities, its like a code of honor or code of stupidity or some shit
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>>141013546

It was just his blood forming the quincy star anon.
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>>141014092
>who is Gin
>>
Thor is the best thing that has happened to Bleach since Aizen and Neliel.

Love him!!!
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>>141014359
>!!!
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>>141014359
>!!!
Try harder
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>>141014359
>Thor
>Not Jugram
Jugram is like the cooler Byakuya
>inb4 Kubo drops the "brothers separated at birth" bomb
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>>141014495
You mean Sojin Kuchiki?
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>>141014584
Sojun*
And Sojun is his father, not brother
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>>141010485
I would laugh my ass off at all the salt. I honestly think it'd break the internet for a while.
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>>141003731
Name of the game? I need to know because I'm a conessuir of shitty anime ripoff games, it fills my dull hours
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>>141014841
Bleach brave souls, I believe
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>>141014841
its extra shitty plus its full machinecode translated.
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>>141009203
The only person I can see legitimately taking down Gerard right now is Ichibei.
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>>141012369
Or better yet, the panel just stops at the kitchen where we only see her feet. Would be the greatest shitstorm of generations
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>>141016174
If only.
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