Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1527

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
It's hard because people always say, 'Follow your dreams,' but it's not a perfect world, and things don't always work out. But you've just got to work hard, and you can't take things for granted.

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>>140956216

>>140955815

If I didn't know better I would think that is chink. ;_; dekinai

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人に優しいｄｊｔにようこそ

あなたにはみんながいるよ

みんなが手をとりあって

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE1nzTE5ESA

>>140956302
Luckily I knew 朝鮮 from nico, 民主主義 and 共和国 from this deck, and finally 人民 from mining.
>Democratic People's Republic of Korea

>>140956302
Yeah man only chinese uses those strange characters in that way... truly dekinai ankifu 「ランドムミーム」for crying out loud

I don't want to learn useless kanji, I just wanna do flashcards and read visual novels

So the guide suggests getting done with basic grammar and 2K first before reading but does that really work? I am just 200 vocabs and a few chapters into the grammar guide and feel like I won't be able to recall it all unless I practice reading. What are your experiences?

>>140947250
>>140948160
Thanks, I wasn't aware of Anonymous Core5K. I redid it with that as a data source and added the frequency information:
http://core6000.neocities.org/freq/index.htm

>>140956937
No problems here. t. Can read yotsuba

>>140956937
Get a Tae Kim deck with example sentences.

>>140956937
Yes
>and feel like I won't be able to recall it all unless I practice reading.
If you try reading now you will pretty much be slamming your head against a figurative wall rather than exposing yourself to words/grammar that you already know to reinforce them. If you don't know Core2k, you won't know the vast majority of words you see. If you haven't finished Tae Kim then you won't understand the vast majority of grammar you see. Reading is very important but it is not productive or necessary at a stage as early as yours.

>>140956956
Cool beans.

>>140956937
i can read dragon balls and other goku related material

>>140956956
Good stuff.

>>140956937
The idea is to give you a foundation before you jump into real material. I doubt anyone here has done scientific studies on whether that's more effective than just reading from the beginning. In the end you just have to try different things and see what works for you instead of slavishly doing what worked for someone else.

セ゚
ツ゚
ト゚

>>140957681
What the fuck are you doing?

>>140957725
I just typed はんだくてん into my IME and got a bunch of funny suggestions. Apparently they are legit but obsolete characters.

>>140957681
Those aren't real.

>>140958002
>obsolete
No, just esoteric. They were used in kana-only linguistics.

Luckily, the IPA has superceded every other phonetic system.

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>go to watch some live Japanese tv streams for listening practice
>every single site is at max capacity
>just end up watching NHK World again because it always works
I sort of wish that anon didn't add those live Japanese tv sites to the guide, because that shit gets shared everywhere.

>>140958942
anything that gets shared with 一般 fuckers will get shared with even more 一般 fuckers so be glad you were even able nibble up any crumbs you bottom feeding 一般 fuck

愛してるぜ

>>140958942
Nice picture, you fit in perfectly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqD-6-vcFHI
I challenge you to find a Japanese let's play that's better than this.

>292 cards added today
It never ends.

>>140960333
I have to admit... I ｌぉｌｄ pretty fucking hard while reading this post for crying out loud
ナイス冗談ｗｗｗ

>studied so much feel like vomiting
Too many Japanese

>>140960333
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCTKIqfmiWo

授業

HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO REMEMBER THIS ALIEN RUNE

>>140960505
Try reducing your anime consumption, your urge to vomit might have something to do with that

>>140960672
watch some school anime and you'll know it in no time

>>140960672
Kanji are useless just learn the romanji

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:ˆ

>>140960731
>implying people actually study in school anime

>>140960813
I wouldn't know, I don't watch shit

>>140960738
>romanji
Every time I see this I wish someone would photoshop it onto the cover of "Jumanji"

>>140960787
I'm glad I don't have to deal with this shit anymore. Eletronics was a gigantic waste of some good years of my life.

>>140960873
Every time I see a post like this I wish someone would write "kekd pretty hard while reading this post"
Oh wait... I just did... ナイスポスト

>>140960886
now the biggest waste of your life is your posting

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Oh fuck, I just got it.
The /q/ thread against DJT said we didn't belong on /a/ because we had nothing to do with anime.
By shitposting so much against anime, maybe mods will come to agree.
Dastardly.

>>140961204
I hope it works. I'm rooting for DJT's destruction.
Most people here don't deserve something as nice as DJT.

>>140961317
What about the Japan general at /int/ ?

>>140961204
Now disconnect the /q/ thread from the anti-anime shitposting and you will be on the right track. I'm looking forward to when you get it after 2-3 weeks considering how slow you are.

>>140961387
We need to drop a couple nukes on that place.

>>140961204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

>>140961387
i hang out in there all the time its a cool place to hang out and post with people who have stuff to talk about sometimes besides how many flashcards they did and how much shit they ate today

>>140961469
Me

>>140961531
I actually ate ２キロ of my own excrements today, just for studying flashcards in 暗記 obviously, it's not that I like the 味.

>>140961204
DJT members throw shitstorm about /q/ thread about DJT. Autistic troll picks up on DJT's reaction and decides to troll using them.

>>140961675
I can't believe it, we have a person with a working brain here, bravo guys. Didn't even take a month to solve this mystery.

>>140961611
Kilograms or kilometers?

>>140961611
正直 i frankly enjoy shit eating and talking about shit eating it breaks up the monotony from all the other useless posts that take themselves seriously

>>140961709
You're welcome. Now tell me your name so I can make a folder for you.

>>140961711
>kilometers
I fucking wish...
>>140961718
くそ is the best 食べ物...

>>140961675
DJT members throw shitstorm about /q/ thread about DJT. Punished argumentative member picks up on DJT's reaction and decides to troll using it to get back at DJT.

>>140961783
i can 飲む to that *clanks glass of 小便＊

乾杯

>>140956937
Make a grammar deck. I covered half of Tae Kim, both Genki books + some other grammar and I don't have any trouble with grammar when I read. I know 3.600 words so I only have to look up words all the time

>>140961906
お願い you to stop using 日本語 words と characters with 英語 sentences, you 母fucker.

>>140961746
You should already have a folder for me if your skills are worth anything.

>>140962177
Make me, you 萌え豚

>>140962279
Joke's on you, I have a folder for myself.

>>140962177
but nihonjims get to 喋る with 英語 words all the クソ time

also あんたの母ちゃんだけyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VIPLMeSFVM

>>140962067
>some other grammar
Specify.

>>140962610
It's not well regarded here but I used Japanese for Busy People. A certain youtuber recommended it in his video.

>>140962610
Slang, Kansaiben, supposing if, even if that's true, thanks to... Just add new grammar you learn. Or add the words which are necessary to understand the grammar to core.
I sometimes read on Maggies site and add stuff and downloaded some grammar books. Many people here only do Core and have a high pace. Just read for 30 minutes each day in a grammar book and do 1h reviews instead of 2h or something.

>>140962675
all i have to say is good on you despite all the flack youre gonna get im sure you have way more functional use of the language than the would be hecklers

>>140962793
i didnt knew slang and kansai benjamin is grammar

>>140962866
For me it's grammar because if you don't know slang and grammar you won't understand it when you encounter it.

Is it taught that 大(おお) and 王(おう) are pronounced the same?

>>140962983
to be honest its been a while since ive seen a question about the classic おお vs おう

there is no pronunciation that is taught they are said fundamentally different in accordance to normal speech dude

>>140962983
Just throwing this out there, since I've done hardly any listening practice.

But I think I've sometimes heard a slight bounce in double characters. So I think おう is just basically おー, while おお has a slight bounce between the two.

>>140962983
They are'nt pronounced the same doe

>>140955669
Is there anything for japanese on Android that remotely compares to DuoLingo? I got started on Spanish with it and it was great.

>>140963079
http://vocaroo.com/?upload

>>140963371
theres no point to that if you dont already understand the difference youre not gonna hear it if someone posting here says it dink

>>140963451
That's an interesting way to admit that you're making shit up.

>>140963630
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1QQKGEfQrC5

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This 出来ない just cleared Core 2k. I'm still shit.

>>140963732
How can you be a verb? You fucking meme-using faggot.

>>140963801
>verb
found the 出来ない

>>140963732
Nice job anon.

>>140963813
I found a verb here too, an ESL EOP meme user guys I found him
In your language:
"I found a dekinai in this ankifu, an ESL EOP good DJT member できない I found him 出来ないI'm not a dekinaiちゃんあんきふ"

>>140963915
>ESL EOP meme user
All factually incorrect my friend.
Don't talk what you can't walk.

>>140963732
what does clearing core 2k mean clearly not much

must feel bad to realize you fell for the flashcard meme lmao

>>140963732
>cleared
It is a language not a video game, please let me know when you've beaten English 100% btw your save file deteriorates if you don't replay the levels often enough.

>>140963987
You use shitty memes therefore you are a meme user. And you clearly are an overrated EOP ESL JOP because you think you can be a verb.

>>140964095
>You use shitty memes
I didn't, though. Where do you think I first posted?
>And you clearly are an overrated EOP ESL
You can say funny things, but that doesn't suddenly make them true, anon.

Hello, I did 50 flashcards today and I can't understand shit I'm a 自動詞.
>>140963732
Flashcards are really helpful, how many new cards you do daily?

>>140964136
i dont think anyone can say funny things here

i challenge any one of you dorks to make me lol (笑) or lmao (爆笑)

>>140964136
>factually incorrect
Yeah, that's not a meme at all. Come back when you learn English and stop being an ESL JOP/ EOP.
P.S I am actually an autonomous verb.

>>140964216
shut the fuck up faggot

>>140964162
Finals just finished for me so I ramped it to 30 a day from 20.

>>140964218
>Come back when you learn English and stop being an ESL
Good thing I'm a literate native speaker.
>P.S I am actually an autonomous verb.
You keep implying that 出来ない is a verb. You may want to rethink your japanese ability.

>>140964216
You make me 爆笑 pretty regularly and that's all that matters ありがとうｗｗ

>>140964238

You madman

>>140964162
it doesnt matter if you learned anything just use your イマジヘイショウ

>>140964224
もっとがんばってみろyo dude


>>140964264
yea well i also have a good time chillin あんたと so お互い様 or w/e

>>140964263
Yeah I'm pretty sure intransitive verbs are just a myth created by [insert boogeyman name here]
Also you might want to buy some better English textbooks, the current ones you use aren't working well for you.

>>140963057
>>140963079
Just checking if it's taught that way, good to know my pronunciation is better than people that learned in college and have been living in Japan for years.

>>140964527
Hint: The 出来 and ない in 出来ない are separate words.

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>>140964527
you can buy my book its looks like a normal 教科書 but 開けたら my 馬鹿でかいちんこ pops out and stabs you in the 目

>>140964558
heres a professional tip from a gamer just like you

出来ない is a noun because of the way it is used as slang around this lovely place and it can and should be used as such

>>140964558
Oh I see naruhodo naruhodo thanks for the ESL EOP tip man, I just thought it was a negative conjugation of 出来る, how stupid of me.
Which books do you use to learn English by the way?

>>140964781
>I just thought it was a negative conjugation of 出来る
What gave you that idea? Japanese doesn't have a negative conjugation. Did you get conjugation and agglutination confused?

>>140964841
I'm just a stupid overrated JOP ESL EOP LMP, thank you for opening my eyes to this truth. I will delete all knowledge of verbs from my brain.
「Lool I'm a できない guys I just did 20 cards omg and I still don't know shit (I have an ankifu).」
So will you tell me which Eigo books do you use? I want to master English too.

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>>140964841
kiss my glute dude

>>140964930
tell me also im the girl in this nice picture i got from reddit

>>140965020
I'm the girl with the ｈｄ face in the background. I want to learn 英語 please ごめんなさいありがとうございます

How come the advanced topics in Tae Kim doesn't have the hover links for kanji?
How will I ever learn アドバンスド日本語？

>>140965072
maybe instead of 勉強ing 英語 we can just カラオケに遊びに行く放課後 dude

>>140965186
in the world it doesnt even matter if what you say as right as long as you say it with enough confidence that others believe it

when you think of it that way does it even really matter if you know アドバンスド日本語 or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06yIzV8HToM

>>140965072
>I want to learn 英語
Do your reps

>>140965332
I'm not an idiot, I don't do stupid flashcards

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>>140965495
I meant this kind of reps.
It gets your blood flowing and is good for your brain so you learn better.

>>140965693
i dont get why people lift barbells with their arms but not their ちんこ

having a beefy ass ペッカー is as much if not more important

Fullサイズのベッドフレーム２点、5/17までにAnn Arborの自宅でお引き取りいただける方に$30で即日お引き渡し可能です。（１点につき$15）

Damn, Japanese are willing to do delivery? Same day for 30 dollars?

>>140966103
Are you gonna do some good fucking on that bed?

>>140966194
Fullサイズのベッドフレーム２点、5/17までにAnn Arborの自宅でお引き取りいただける方に$30で即日お引き渡し可能です。（１点につき$15）
中古で購入し、10ヶ月間使用したものです。
ベッドフレームは下記リンク先の通り折り畳み可能です。

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MIVR06/ref=nav_timeline_asin?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Fullサイズのベッドマットレス２点は、5/18午前中にAnn Arborの自宅にお越しいただければ、無料でお渡し可能です。

Correct me if im reading this wrong: If you go collect it on 5/18 am it is free? Its was bought used and has 10 months on it total?

>>140966238
You are kind of rude... Didn't even answer my question bro

>>140966194
gonna lay flat on my 背中 and jerk off with both hands and create 鍾乳石s on my ceiling that are made of 精液

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How many cards have you mined today?

>>140966478
>>140966194
Only if its with you anon.

>>140966478
honestly im going to go claim it. my mattress is old.

>>140966552
I'm hyped, do you mind if I join in on the ファン? I will allow you to try my 糞石 (I haven't shat for a couple of years)

>>140966610
I don't use anki so yeah... I recommend you to follow my 例え

do you guys use memrise

>>140966697
No thanks, I am aiming to learn Japanese, not become a professional shitposter.

>>140966657
i dont like hard shit いろんな意味で but you can still come (いく)

>>140966701
I use it it's so helpful I have learned that できる isn't actually a verb
>>140966732
Surely you meant "I am aiming to learn flashcards"

>>140966751
We can make some スープ then, just add 味塩、山椒 and some 恥垢 if you are into that kind of stuff

>>140966775
>Surely you meant "I am aiming to learn flashcards"
Nice meme dude, are you just going to pretend that the proven effectiveness of flash cards is suddenly invalid because you don't have the patience to apply it?

>>140966976
I have a lot of patience and time and I'll devote it to actually reading real stuff I like, doing 20-30 cards per day and thinking that you are learning Japanese is pretty fucking retarded lmao
Why didn't you post links to studies that show the "proven effectiveness of flashcards", surely there must be some legitimate studies if flashcards are so effective as you say they are hahaha

>>140962067
>Make a grammar deck
Or use the DoJG deck that already exists.

>>140967128
hahaha same dude 仝（爆笑）

>>140966775
Wow, someone's salty that they don't know japanese.

>>140967156
Or just uninstall anki, that works too.
>>140967193
I know that できる isn't a verb I learned that in my flashcards today
>salty
ーーー＞reddit

>>140966732
see you in japan make sure you keep your deck in your back pocket in case of emergency

>>140966938
i tried チンカス once and it just gave me mad 下痢

also instead of 味塩 can we just use 中出し its more 健康的

>>140967193
im personally 山椒みたい

>>140967235
>>salty
>ーーー＞reddit
Wow, someone's really new to the internet.

Another quality thread.
It's a great thing the mods are protecting it from moderation.

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How do I use this deck?

>>140967332
Is this sarcasm?

>>140967332
yeah it lets boneheads like you post your stupid baby whiner posts without penalty

>>140967259
Sure man we can use whatever 加薬 you like, I think having 下痢 is quite beneficial for our 炊事 ｗｗ

>>140967302
Nah man I'm pretty sure you are just salty, learn to take insults like a man for crying out loud (ankifu) (dekinai)

>>140967505
What makes you think I'm salty? I'm stoked.

>>140967535
I think you are salty for crying out loud, welp...

>>140967560
>ESL tries to use casual english

>>140967354
Suspend the recognition cards (don't delete them or all the cloze cards get deleted too for some reason).

>first time seeing a card
Read fucking everything.

>subsequent times seeing a card
Read the formation tables and example sentences. If you feel like the concept is kind of weak for you, read the notes too.

Also, I would recommend against using the media-less deck if you can. IIRC, it doesn't have notes for any of the cards from the intermediate and advanced volumes.

>>140967588
I'm not an ESL EOP meme user for crying out loud, welp, but I think you are. Just meh... for crying out loud

>>140967679
My sides are in orbit, anon. Please keep responding with you hilarious feigned stupidity.

>>140967459
i dont know if 中だし is 加薬 because the whole soup starts with the 出し right

also agreed on the 下痢炊事

あいつらなんか下痢川で溺れ死ねばいいわ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH_hXFkPomI

>>140967701
My sides are crying out loud and there's nothing you can do about it, salty f-word

>>140968023
Why would I care what your sides are doing? Your responses are making my day.

>>140968128
why dont you make like my sides and split dork

>>140968128
Because you don't understand basic physics, that's why you should care (I'm superior in this regard) your sides can't orbit something, it's you doing the oribiting for crying out loud by making a day.

>>140968229
Joke's on you, it's no joke. I really am orbiting. I'm physically orbiting your responses as I walk around my desk laughing at your posts.

>>140968280
You are orbiting, yeah, there' no doubt about it but your sides aren't. That means the joke stands and it's on you (for crying out loud) and why do you walk in circles around your desk? Are you some kind of a freak?

>>140968280
do you know what causes something to orbit

youve been caught in the web and now you cant escape

orbit muppets

>>140968318
Hey man, don't insult my sides like that. They're a nice firm part of my body. Wherever I go, they go.

>>140968334
im pretty sure hes the one doing the webbing jamal

daily japanese thread

>>140968344
You seem to be missing the point for crying out loud, they are a part of your body and they can't orbit independently because the joke's on you.

Can someone confirm if this expression:

> 今日は室内でもけっこう鼻にキますね
> 鼻にキます

means "running nose"?
Couldn't find anywhere else...

>>140968397
this is what people think they know japanese when they don't even know about the copular synthesis of the conjunctive stems of japanese statal verbs

>>140968419
Who said anything about independence?

>>140968439
できる is not a verb I can confirm that with 100% atheistic debate certainty

>>140968511
but できる is a verb anon
did you think できる and できない were the same thing?

>>140968499
"My sides are in orbit" this implies they are orbiting independently, maybe that's just your EOP ESL nature and you can't construct proper sentences, but you should have said "I'm in orbit" or something like that.

>>140968557
I've never seen someone with such bad english, and I've seen a lot of bad english.

>>140968538
I have researched this matter and I can certainly say that できる is not a verb just like できない and they indeed are different thing (I learned that in memrise today) でき+ない write it down somewhere you might need it later.

>>140968582
You can't even capitalize English, what are you even talking about you fucking EOP ESL piece of trash? I think you should go orbit some more sides or whatever you are into, salty motherf*cker わらう

>>140968604
Hm, he appears to be schizophrenic.

>>140968658
Who are you talking to besides me? I think you might have imaginary friends.

>>140968652
>capitalizing english
Found the ESL.

>>140968379
oic

>>140968438
今日は室内でもけっこう鼻にキますね means something smells like shit (my posts)

>>140968439
i cant even read half of these words lmao

>>140968582
なんか酔うんだ

>>140968652
take it easy with all the curses man

>>140968698
You might like this thing called the "narrative voice", consider reading about it some time. It lets you do all kinds of fun things with English.

>>140968754
thats so fucked up dude

>>140968754
>ち

>>140968714
Found the EOP ESL mfer... meh
>>140968735
I'm censoring myself f*cking sh*t
>>140968743
Is that a thing in English light novel translations? I don't read stuff for retards sorry I wouldn't know about it

Just wanted to thank you gaijins for all the help in translating this doujin. Couldn't have done it without you guys.
http://exhentai.org/g/930062/bd7089e826/

>>140969289
its just a panda bear theres not even any text

>>140968754
looks like arabic now desu

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>>140969289
>netorare
Mah nigga
Gonna save this for later.

>>140963732
when you people say core 2k you're talking about the 2k/6k deck right?

I feel like anki only trains me to recognize the word if i see it, and not actually conjure/come up with the word while writing/talking

>>140970078
Huh? Really? I thought flashcards teach you Japanese. That's really strange.

>>140970140
I'm also watching anime, reading manga, translating doujins, and reading that tae kim thing
I agree anki isn't the end all be all but it's still helpful for recognition, which is really what I need if I just wanna read manga or watch anime

how do you read tategaki

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Done with the first month of using Anki.

>>140970267
Through flash cards

>>140970285
thats strange im reviewing the charts and they all say youre gay

>>140970331
damn
how will he recover

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>>140970285
How the fuck are your reviews taking you so long with a 90+ correct %?

>>140970285
How goes the reading?

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From the DoJG:
>僕は静かな時しか本を読まない。
>I read only when it's quiet.

Why is 読む in the negative form here? Wouldn't that make the sentence mean "I, only when it's quiet, don't read" (i.e. "I read all the time except when it's quiet")?

I just accidentally 露にした my ちんぽ in public...

>>140971086
The 読まない here is actually two words - 読ま and ない.

>>140971257
読ま isn't a word. You're thinking of 読み.

>>140971086
It's like "but"
>I read but in quiet times.
>I don't read but in quiet times.

>>140971086
(Apart from the times when it's quiet) I don't read.

>>140971257
stop

>>140971086
しか

>Other than when it's quiet, I cannot read

>>140971354
It actually is, since there are no verbs in Japanese that's the only other possibility.
>>140971382
Stop what?

>>140971086
しか is only ever actually used this way with negative verbs, so the definitions in dictionaries are backwards, because dictionary writers are retarded.

ookii kuso wo tabemashita yo
oishii desu imasu ne

>>140971086
>>140971366
>>140971423
I don't think rikai defines it very well at all.

Especially since other cases where it only has that meaning in combination with negatives they write in parethesis "(when used with a negative)", like with あまり for example.
They don't do that for しか so it's easy to get confused thinking there's a double negative based on their description.

>>140971485
Ah, that explains my confusion. Thanks.

Where did you learn that, by the way?

>>140971623
I had a hunch it wasn't "only" because of しかし, so I googled [しか imabi]
imabi's guide is generally shit for actually learning but it's a pretty good reference for clearing up the incompetence of other guides
just like ixrec's is good for hitting the ground running with VN word usage (pronouns, made up verbal phrases, etc) despite being shit in general as well

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>haven't started yesterdays reps
>still finishing the day before yesterdays reps
>next day starts in 5 mins

>>140971623
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/amount

>I carefully phrased the title of this section to show that 「しか」 must be used to indicate the lack of everything else. In other words, the rest of the sentence must always be negative.

>>140971759
you could just change the setting for when a new day begins

俺は日本人だ
なんでも聞きたまえ

How do you translate 「だりぃー」?
Would it be translated as "I don't wanna"
Or as "I don't feel like it"
Or something else?

>>140967354
How I use it:
I spilt the deck into two separate decks, one for recognition and the other for cloze delete.
Let's say this was the first day of usage-
1. Select recognition deck, read through the entirety of given entry, move on to next card. Do this for all new cards for the first time then on the second time when you click "good" or "again", to see them the next day or to restart the review process, I only read through the example sentences.
2. Select cloze delete deck, read concept description and using my fresh understanding of the concepts I've just read on the recognition cards, read the sentence aloud (this is just what I do) and use the correct grammar/pattern/concept.

On later days, I review the cloze delete deck review cards (not new cards) before reviewing the recognition cards. The cloze delete card review is the same process as their initial review, so it's pretty quick. Once all of the reviews are done, I stop, not reviewing new cards just yet. Instead I start to review the recognition cards, reading each entry/example sentence just like the second review on the first day of reviewing (not bothering to read the notes unless I really misunderstood it). From this point, once all of the review cards are done, for the new cards for the day I switch back to the original process of reading through the entire cards, notes and all. After all of those are done, I review the new cloze delete cards in the same fashion as the first day.

It is a looping process that allows me to test review concepts before reading back through them, so as not to sort of "cheat" myself out of not entirely testing my memory of them.

Oh, forgot to mention: the order and amount of cards for each deck is identical, otherwise it would be awkward, testing something I haven't yet read through fully. I went through the Basic cards at 15 cards a day and are currently going through the Intermediate cards but mining the unknown words in a different deck before hand.

>>140972074
i feel heavy

>>140972074
I think "I don't wanna" is nearer

>>140972038
ほんとうですか

>>140971485
>>140971702
>>140971791
Would a good translation of しか be "more/other than", then?

>静かな時しか本を読まない。
>Other than when it's quiet, I don't read books. (= I only read books when it's quiet)

>一週間しかありません。
>There isn't more than one week (= there is only one week)

空港から日本国内のご希望の場所までの宅配サービスの受付および、空港宛に日本国内各地から送付した荷物の引き取りを行えます。

お受け取りは3階出発ロビー宅配カウンターにてお引き渡しいたします。ご発送は2階到着ロビー宅配カウンターにて承ります。

"Sending packages from airport to a desired destination in japan, as well as a service to receive items sent to the airport is conducted.

To receive items its at the 3rd floor lobby home delivery counter. To send items its at the 2nd floor lobby arrival home delivery counter."

Im prob reading this wrong. Why would you have the package receive at the 3rd floor departure and the item send at the 2nd floor arrival?

>>140971623
There is an entry dedicated to しか in the source material you are quoting from. Read the notes.

>>140972164
もちろんさ

>>140972038
ボクと踊りませんか

>>140972180
unless it's quiet I don't read
there's but one week left

>>140972207
You wanna dance with me?
That's sounds good
だが断る

>>140972207
夢の中に。

>>140972038
日本人の彼女の作り方教えくれたまえ

>>140972180
しか means only

>>140972038
ロリコン？

>>140972319
このロリコンどもめ！

>>140972180
yes

>>140972292
no

>>140972180
尻穴しかない
そこでやろうぜよベビー

>>140972199
Ah, is there? There's no reference to that entry in the notes for that concept.

>>140972277
If you are white, it is very easy.
Japanese girls love white man.
You just talk to them in japan, and say pikachu, naruto, or one piece
Then They will like you
But make sure,that they hade nerd

>>140972319
うん
でも大人もいい

>>140972435
there was potential and then it was gone

>>140972474
me to

>>140972186
>Im prob reading this wrong. Why would you have the package receive at the 3rd floor departure and the item send at the 2nd floor arrival?
Why wouldn't you?
>>140967302
"salty" is a pretty new meme so I'm sure what you're trying to get at

>>140972564
>"salty" is a pretty new meme
>He doesn't know

>>140972594
I'm actually pretty salty right now for crying out loud

im not so much salty as i am gay personally

>>140972624
But do you cry out loud?

>>140972472
お前はロリコンじゃない
偽物だ

>>140968754
>いぬのちんぽ

I'm doing anki and I think my sides are orbiting something

>>140972663
いや、俺雑食だから
お前と違ってどっちも楽しめるから

>>140972564
because if you were going to send something home, you would do it before you board the airplane? (you'd go home via airplane)

and if you were going to recieve something at the airport, you plan to use it during your trip, so you should pick it up before departing?

>>140972277
How to make Japanese women? Ask god.

>>140972376
If you are using the DoJG deck (which would be wise), put the following into the search bar in your Anki browser:
deck:日本語文法辞典１ " しか"

>>140972860
If that doesn't help you (maybe your deck is named something else- that is how my deck was named when I downloaded it) look up the concept in the book/scans itself: page 398.

>>140972761
でも神さまなんて存在しないだろう

>>140972860
That fucked up my decks. Fuck you! Don't do this anyone else.

>>140972923
呼んだ？

>>140972929
Go away retard.

>>140972954
Go away retard.

>>140972954
>>140972975
erhrmm *clears throat*

dont go away retards

>>140972860
>>140972920
Thanks. Never thought of also using the deck as an easy way of looking up pages/concepts.

>>140972860
Fuck this guy he ruined my decks don't do this

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>>140972953
Tinkle tinkle hoy.

>>140972975
Stop shitposting for fuck sake. Some of us are trying to help anons out.

>>140973024
Pic related, replace the deck name if your deck name differs.

>>140972277
>>140972761
Is 作り a slang for something there?

>>140973064
>Stop shitposting for fuck sake. Some of us are trying to help anons out.
Is that why you responded to me instead of the other guy who said it?

>>140973075
彼女を作る = get a girlfriend
it's no different from how we say "make friends"

>>140972758
I was thinking it would be like for if you want to take more stuff on the plane than you can easily carry, so you like send your bag there then pick it up to take it on the plane. I mean like it's all for 国内 stuff so you may as well send stuff before you get on the plane instead of taking it on the plane first
>>140972594
I don't know when it was first used but overusing it was popularized recently with twitch
>>140973075
no but 彼女 = girlfriend

So I decided to use this Dojpd deck, which version do I use?

>>140973075
If you are being serious, no, it's not. When 方 is affixed to verbs, the verb takes the predicate form
>読む→読み
>作る→作り
>言う→言い
and 方 is added to the end of it
読み方 (way of reading)
作り方 (way of making)
言い方 (way of speaking)
Substitute the Chingrish transliterations with whatever sounds more natural in the given context.

>>140973167
>I mean like it's all for 国内 stuff so you may as well send stuff before you get on the plane instead of taking it on the plane first
Never mind this is what you were saying my bd I'm half asleep. But that would be useless for if you were coming in from another country.

If you were coming in from another country you'd want to bring it across in the flight then send it the rest of the way by mail so you can just chill on the shinkansenなんてね

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oIX2HMqd_U

What exactly is he saying at 0:55? The subs say "Where'd this come from?", but I can't make out the actual Japanese at all. It sounds like "ここかがなにかがな” which is incomprehensible.

>>140973284
its anime japanese dont worry about it

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I finally finished Satsukoi. Only took 3.5 months. I started out really hating it, and probably should have quit, but now that it is over I think I enjoyed it. I thought there were too many sex scenes and that the school life parts dragged on too long. I now realize that they only seemed to drag on forever because of my slow pace and if I had read at a decent pace it would have been fine. The ending wasn't what I expected, but it was good and did not leave me disappointed.

I felt like I improved more reading Satsukoi than Flyable Heart. I attribute this to mining. Writers tend to use the same words over and over, so mining from what you are reading will make it noticeable faster and easier over time. By the last sex scene I felt like an anatomy professor and was moving through it relatively quickly. I'm really glad I started mining.

I'm regretting rating FH a 9 though. I shouldn't have gone so high for my first Japanese VN. I rated Satsukoi today, May 1, which was my goal, but VNDB recorded it as May 2. This is pissing me off.

Red > Brown > Yellow > Green
That last CG is so good.

>>140973405
Uh... Cool?

>>140973284
広告か何かかな

It's that time again.

http://desustorage.org/a/thread/140913745/#140930467

http://desustorage.org/a/thread/140474056/#140482572

>>140973167
never mind that at least my reading comp is fine

>>140973185
Anyone? The no media version or the media version? Please help...

>>140973284
sounds like 広告かなにかかな to me
you could try to find some Japanese subtitles for it
try http://kitsunekko.net/dirlist.php?dir=subtitles%2Fjapanese%2F

>>140973442
>>140973483
That makes sense; I can hear the く at the end of 広告 now. Thanks!

>>140973472
なんのタイム？
ふわふわタイム？

>>140973518
considering that was a really sentence I would probably add whoever did those subs to a mental list of subbers to never use again

>>140973604
>*really easy sentence

>>140973472
What?

>>140973405
I disagree, I thought the ending was fairly poorly done. The revelation that he's going to die anyway weakens the impact and meaning of his sacrifice, and basically is thematically inconsistent with the central concept of sacrificing yourself for your loved one. The way people, both the mother and the friend, got so easily redeemed and forgiven after what they did, felt disappointing, weak and a cheap substitute to any actual conclusion to their plotline. And we didn't even get a proper little concert to end things off. Even Shoujo Ramune did it better.

Oh well. So what are you reading next, parakka?

I'm watching the [JoJo] subs of Jojo season one and they're so inaccurate that its almost unbearable to watch. I know you guys are gonna advise I just watch it raw, but some of the characters speak in that retarded yakuza voice that I find impossible to understand and the subs are unfortunately hardcoded anyway. Are there any good alternative sub groups to watch parts 1 and 2? Ones that are actually accurate to the original dialog?

>>140973796
>I know you guys are gonna advise I just watch it raw
Who would say such a thing?

>>140972074
"I can't be bothered". But any of the proposed options are still pretty accurate to the meaning.

>>140973796
get japanese subs
http://kitsunekko.net/dirlist.php?dir=subtitles%2Fjapanese%2F

>>140973796
how do you say subs are bad while still asking for other subs

kids these days they do tyler kim and think they know what theyre talking about

How do I do the DoJG deck? Should I use the deck with media and suspend the recognition cards?

>>140974297
you delete it and spend your time reading compelling content instead

>>140973796
[Some-stuffs] are the best subs for JoJo, from what I understand. My Japanese isn't good enough to say for sure though.

>>140973760
I mostly agree with your points, it could certainly have been better, but I still enjoyed it. One of my favorite parts, despite it being really simple and not important, is how it fades back into the start screen at the end. I don't even know why I liked it.

I ended up reading for 6 hours today, because I definitely had to finish it today. I thought I was much closer to the end than I actually was.

I am considering two options at the moment.
1. Tonakoi, mostly because it is fairly short and I like the art. Most of the other VNs in my list are 2x-3x longer.
2. Read a light novel while I catch up on my mining backlog. Any word I mine today, I won't see for 4 months. So, I won't even see them until I finish whatever I'm mining them from. That doesn't feel very effective. Probably Zero no Tsukaima or Kino no Tabi.

>>140974359
>watches anime
>My Japanese isn't good enough
Who would have thought.

ーいつから切手を集め始めたんですか。
ー子供の時から集め始めました。

why are they using verb stems and not -te form here?

>>140974485
Because you started gathering you didn't start and then gather

>>140974422
>>140973760
>>140973405
>>>/jp/

We need to ニューク this thread, now!

>>140974485
You can say both
Having been mentioned, this sentence means "start collecting "
So you can also say
いつから切手を集めてたんですか？

other examples
切り始める
読み始める
まとめ始める

>>140974933
それに加え

確かめ合う

日本語の勉強どう？

>>140975194
誰が勉強爆笑

>そっとしといてつっついたらサタンが爆誕
Sansha sanyou lyrics

What does this mean? The meaning seems contradictory. All I can guess is

If you leave alone and poke, Satan is explosively born

Anyone understand this? I think it's referring to one of the girls who is joked about as being a demon.

>>140975915
This is not "if" sentence I guess
More like "then"
But I don't get the whole meaning without context

>>140974297
see >>140972097
For some idea of how others use it.

>>140975915
it sounds like you dont wanna be fuckin around unless you wanna explosively birth satan

>>140976068
there is no context. here is the last part of the lyrics


(次ラスト〜！)
さぁ！強引に前へ！　(Go！Go！)
進め！そう前へ！上へ！　(Jump！Jump！)
三者三葉　いざ宣誓しょん！
キセキみたい　(きらりっ)　今世紀最大の
へんてこりんな三人組の大事件

そっとしといてつっついたらサタンが爆誕

きっとこれが女子高生の
普通の？　一般的な？　スクールライフ

>>140976183
げっ is this the kind of shit people are "learning" japanese for

>>140974422
I highly recommend not wasting your time reading a light novel, since they're all trash compared to VNs. And knowing your taste you probably won't like Tonakoi.

>>140975915
Don't try to learn form lyrics they literally make no sense half the time

>>140976340
Anon was just trying to understand a particular lyric, you fucking sperg. Nothing there suggests he is using song lyrics as a basis of his Japanese study.

Why do generals attract the most insufferable manchildren?

>>140976340
idk why it just hangs on my mind, I think its cause "satan" is in it
its like what the fuck, satan? and I can't understand. if it was just some other shit id probably have moved on by now

>>140976411
OK would you mind explaining in detail the meaning and grammar of this passage?
にぃちゃんもねぇちゃんも何でここわっけっけっけっけ
んだんだんだんだ　くまみこダンスんだ

>>140976183
Don't Seek for meanings of anime songs
It's weird as hell and sometimes it means nothing

>>140976474
>still hasn't dropped pedomiko

>>140976435
Well one interpretation is that そっとしといて is a command so it's like "Leave it alone, if you poke it Satan will be born"
But really I think you're putting more thought into the lyrics than the songwriter did.

>>140976474
I would mind as I couldn't give it any justice. Someone else may be able to.

Cherry picking like a retard only makes you look more autistic.

>>140976508
>Don't Seek for meanings of anime songs
Yeah, because natives have no idea what those songs mean. They are literally jibberish to them.

>>140976547
何でここわ is a contracion for 何でここわ日本
The following けっけっけ is them saying "kek" referencing English netspeak

>>140976547
but those lyrics literally are gibberish all of the ones posted as well as all of my posts ever

also its not like western music doesnt have its fair share of incomprehensible mess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS1ggFD6g-k

the only thing that makes it worse was this was top40 shit

>>140976277
Which light novels have you read?

>>140976725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVhb6eMoQig

>>140976277
Yeah light novels are amazingly trash. I thought with so many of them out there it would be a 4th pillar alongside manga and anime and games to delve into.
Yet I barely get a few pages into them before DROPPED

I actually read a VN today, now I can say with confidence that visual novels are truly art

>>140977023
Most of them are for people who can't read like Instagram i must say

>>140976975
yah that is also quite the nonsense do those people actually speak english

getting back into the normal theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QfR-1yTfX0

>>140977096
which 1

>>140977125
im on instagraham and watching vines practically 24/7 in addition to my djt posting career

>>140977208
>which 1
Sugee Neko x Inu no Sekkusu Adventure

>>140977241
i read that one i think that was by the same guy who wrote muramasa or w/e right

it was pretty difficult and embarrassingly i had to consult my flash cards a few times but i was able to appreciate the masterful writing

>>140977338
Yeah it's written by Nasu (forgot his full name) he wrote great classics like Muramasa, Supaa Neko wa Subarashii, Doubutsu Reipu Monogatari and many other great works of art.

you guys are so funny

>>140977450
doubureipu was めっちゃdope lmao

god theres so many great visual games to play once you learn japanese

>>140977478
What's the last word? It didn't come up in my flash cards yet.

>>140977520
I hope I will play all that art when I finish my 200k of flashcards in about 5-6 years or so.

>>140977557
theres some people here who are pretty good with flashcards should probably just wait for them to chime in

once i saw a guy who did like 2000 cards in 10 minutes or something it was crazy

at that rate fluency isnt just a 遠い dream

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I played Utawarerumono 2 Vita taking a screenshot for every paragraph of text that had a word I didn't know. The idea was to go back to them later and put the words in anki. After only like 2 hours I already have 73 images.
JUST

>>140977620
Does anyone here just suck. It takes me fucking forever to do my reviews and I always fail a ton. How do people do it? I wonder if everyone is just lying them.

>>140977620
エロゲ are truly 芸術 、家族ッｗｗ

>>140977704
Yes a lot of them a just BS. Don't let them get you down.

>>140977704
I don't know how people can get 95%+ retention. Even my Core5k deck that is 95% mature I rarely get above 90%. I also have lower mature retention than young, which is the opposite of how it is supposed to work.

>>140977852
People who add every word are going to have much higher retention than people who only add words that have some level of difficulty. You should really get pretty close to 100% on any Core deck after a couple years of reading though.

does anyone know how to measure retention rate in things other than flashcards such as real life

>>140977704
>Does anyone here just suck.

me although its my own fault because i hit good after failing a card once and i don't really put any effort into remembering them

i have about 100~ cards i hit again on every single day and it just keeps growing

にほんじんデス
質問は遠慮なくきいてくだサイ

>>140977970
In vns (visual games)

>>140977777
o.O;

>>140978013
That is why you don't disable leeches.

>>140978146
Nice replying to yourself, shitposter.

>>140978182
Huh? Really? マン... Thanks for pointing it out
>>140978172
Yes, they truly are a work of art. Every single one of the visual games.

>>140978182
he who fights with shit posters should be careful lest he thereby become a shit poster

and if thou gaze long into shit, the shit will also gaze into thee

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>>140955669
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/140616309/#140621970
Follow up post from the initial post, with Anki stats summary.
I've taken some inspiration from a post from a day or so after my initial post, in using a spreadsheet to track progress. It's been really handy in setting things out in a more visual plane. If you get into a more visual representation of progress, something like what that anon did and I copied, might help out your studies.
Google version of the spreadsheet, if anyone feels the need to sticky beak.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZSZ8Wobb3hup9vGY-kJSsG_DxIPVLzCOJvzH4KSwD94/edit?usp=sharing

I've marked the dates of the following updates:
16/05/2016
13/06/2016
08/08/2016
03/10/2016
28/11/2016
12/12/2016
I'll probably end up marking down things I started reading on given dates on the same spreadsheet and maybe give it a comment about difficulty. On the last update I'll provide a summary of how the study has helped with my Japanese proficiency and it might be able to serve as an example of maybe what to be able to expect. Kind of like watching an experiment in real time, albeit rather slow.

>>140978441
Autism

>>140978441
dont take this the wrong way but i dont fuckin give a shit dude

>>140978441

this ain't your blog

腐乱死体を食べました。
犬の腐乱死体。

>>140978534
Others may but I'm sure you can ignore six posts over the next seven months.

>>140978565
Tracking Japanese learning progress in a thread for Japanese learning isn't blogging. Maybe you feel uneasy about the idea of others progressing? How are your studies going?

>>140978757
>Maybe you feel uneasy about the idea of others progressing?
Nice projection, keep your autism to yourself.

I did 四千 flashcards today in 20 minutes.

>>140978441
自閉症でしょ？

>>140978777
If I felt uneasy about others progressing I wouldn't post my own progress, would I? Oh well, let's see where we are by the end of the year. I have a feeling the shitposters will be no further than they are now. Only difference is that if I fail, others will know about it as I've put it on public record. Pressure helps things progress, and all. See you again on the 16/05/2016.

>>140978876
Yeah yeah take your autism with you and don't come back. Nobody is interested in your blogging. You should make a post on reddit about it though, I'm sure a lot of people there would pat you on the head for making such great progress.

>>140978876
Just like, do anki and read. Putting in all that extra effort is a waste of time desu

>>140978876
if youre still 勉強の途中 do you really think you ought to be talkin about peoples levels and shit

though if it keeps you motivated i dont really have a problem with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyi0_VV-p2c