Magi CH 304

Is that Arba? Isn't she dead?

>>140943339

Aladdin looks kinda too old there. That's just one year after Alibaba's disappearance right?

>>140943355
She didn't actually die

>>140943808
Maybe the food in Dark Continent is just rich in nutrients and shit.

>>140944180
I'm actually kind of lost on the whole death thing in Magi. How exactly did Arba survive and just what will it take to permanently kill her? David for that matter also.

>>140944923
Arba possessed Hakuei

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>>140944479
He's not in the DC at this point. I guess he hit puberty like a brick wall at 13.

Also, I want to lick 19-year-old Mor's feet

>>140944923
She body jumped into Hakuei.

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It's like the mangaka is trying to tell me that Sinbad is like some kind of bad guy or something

>>140945345
I'm jumping back on the Mor train, sorry Fish Princess but Mor has short hair AND boobs

>>140945345
Mor is butch

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>>140947932
To be fair, their busts are about the same size at this point. Looks like Fish-end isn't going to happen

>>140948111
I want her to butcher my dick

>>140948399
Morgiana does look pretty lady like now

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>>140947768
This.

If Sinbad was really bad he would have right then capture and reck Aladdin.

He's a truly a good man who just wants to negotiate on level terms.

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>>140943339
>>140948678
>Sinbad is a good guy!!!
Sinsert cucks really believe this

SindBAD thinks he is entitled to do whatever he wants, he is EVIL by default.

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>>140948678
>>140947768
Really though, what has Sinbad done wrong?

>>140949193
Are you kidding me?!

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>>140949131
If he thinks that would he really be trying to talk things out?

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>>140949277
No. What has he done wrong? Trying to protect his country is hardly terrible.

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>>140949131

>>140949318
He's trying to make Aladdin his Magi. That's the only reason he's not fighting him.

>>140949384
He turned the whole world into Jew-land. That alone makes him evil incarnate.

>>140949277
Hey Carl. Tell me again about how REAL Koummunism has never been tried.

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>>140949482

>>140943339
>Does he not want a true Utopia?
Yes, he is the same sperglord who hates Sinbad just because he is "too radiant". Aladdin is an edgyfag who can't believe in people's goodness.

>>140944923
Arba is literally Orochimaru, she has a shitload of spare bodies.
David is a literal god.

>>140947768
It's just a red-herring. The author loves giving us red-herrings, just like how she teared us for month that Arba could be Aladdin's mother.

>>140950024
>Yes, he is the same sperglord who hates Sinbad just because he is "too radiant".
Wasn't Hakuryuu the one who said that?

People just jealous that SinGOAT has the power in the world now.

>>140950181
Nope, it's Aladdin when he told Alibaba the reason he refused to become Sindria's magi.

>>140949972
>Damn, I can't refute him, better use memes

>>140943339
>Sinbad is doing nothing wrong, why is Aladdin refusing to help the one who's saving Magi world? Does he not want a true Utopia?

He knew exactly what would happen to Hakuei and did nothing. He clames to hate dictators and lies yet he does the same things. He's a delusional hypocrite who thinks he can break the cycle of prosperity and destruction all on his own because he's "special" never mind that "special" people like him tend to be the ones who cause the calamity in the first place that eventually spawns another special being like him.

>>140950181
No, but he did say something similar about Alibaba, if I remember right.

>>140950366
>Damn, I can't refute him, better use memes
>Says the guy who gets a webm to do his arguing for him
Kek

>>140950411
>He knew exactly what would happen to Hakuei and did nothing
There is nothing to do about. Hakuei is just a mindless puppet created by Arba to begin with.
>He clames to hate dictators and lies yet he does the same things
A peaceful world with a world wide trading system is equal to military dictatorship? You're retarded.
>He's a delusional hypocrite who thinks he can break the cycle of prosperity and destruction all on his own
No, he wants to do it with the combine effort of everyone, including Aladdin and Alibaba, that's why he's seeking their help.

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RIP shota.

>>140943339
It's gonna be hilarious when Sinbad gets BTFO by Arba and David and all his self-inserting fans will have to find a new idol to circlejerk around.

>>140950587
wonder if he and Morg are now a thing..

>>140950623
David IS Sinbad and Arba is his bitch.

>>140950623
>>140950721
Sinbad = David

There's no one or the other, they have fused to become the glorious leader of magi universe as we know him by.

>>140950832
>David IS Sinbad and Arba is his bitch.
That's what he thinks. He honestly believes he can manipulate one of, if not the most powerful magician in Alma Torran and literally God. He's completely delusional.

>>140950623
No they'll just be like Hakuryuufags.

>literally everything he did was rendered either pointless out only served to fuck over his kingdom and his sister.

>h-he did nothing wrong, he saved the world, even though it amounted to nothing, and he was just used as someone else's tool.

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The Sinbad chapter was great.

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>>140951230
>He honestly believes he can manipulate one of, if not the most powerful magician in Alma Torran and literally God.

He is the only one capable too

>>140950832
>>140951214
David was a human, and Sinbad is not a magician.

>>140951556
No one is capable of controlling deities. Sinny will learn that the hard way.

>>140951230
David already prophesied about Sinbad back in Alma Torran. He is the chosen one who will bring forth the true Utopia without fail.

>>140951720
Apparently, David can.

Wonder how he'll go down considering he's pretty much the authors husbando

>>140951765
David is a deity.

>>140951919
David is Sinbad.

>>140951972
He's not. They're connected to each other, but they're not the same person.

>>140952259
Arba said Sinbad is David reincarnated.

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>>140952744
No, she literally said that he was David, but Sinbad corrected her.

>>140948678
Tatsuya you stupid gay ass bimbo, Sinbad is shit.

>>140951972
He isn't, we've already seen that David is alive and separate from Sinbad.

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Soon?

>>140952744
of course


David
Divad
Sivad
Sinvad
Sinbad

>>140953424
What's this?

>>140953584
nice
mice
mece
meme

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>>140954082
Kek.

>>140953584
Arba
Abra
Aarb
Raab
Fag

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I CANT WAIT FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER

>>140955699
And there's no Weekly Shonen Sunday this week, m8.

>>140954708
Arba
Aarba
Aariba
Aririba
Aribaba
Alibaba

Feel bad for the Sinbad/Ja'far fujos. They are getting bullied by Ohtaka.

Morg looks absolutely disgusting now.

>>140956684
idiot

>>140956762
She really does look like one, huh?

>>140955699
They always have a big cliffhanger right before a break.

I knew it.
Arba's "Found you..." was not meant for Baba.
But, it was meant for Aladdin.

So how will Judar enter the fray in this?

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So I guess the silhouttes here were Nanaumi and that Nashime guy.

>>140957357
I bet he's already with Aladdin and co.

>>140956684
>now

>>140957891
Neither of those silhouettes have horns, or a hat, and neither Nanaumi or Nashime wield staffs/spears. Most likely Haku and Judar.

>>140947932
>fish
>no boobs
Stop being retarded.

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Will he job?

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Fish is perfect.

>>140957279
Kinda stating the obvious there, anon. Everyone already knew Baba was in Kou.

>>140958713
How did Arba monitor Alibaba? Does Zepar perhaps have something to do with it?

>>140960138
She's a magician, no need to use a djinn for anything. She's probably been on high alert for magic telepathic communications.

>>140960285
That's true. But then we still don't know who the 3rd spy of Zepar's is.

>>140956762
I'm a Morfag but come on anon, that hairstyle looks ridiculous. It's like Ohtaka couldn't decide between long hair and short hair, and decided to do both.

I have a doubt.
It is told that Solomon created the new world, but seeing Alma Torran, the creator of the new world seems Ugo. Right?

>>140958971
>Will he job?
He'll one-shot Sinbad and take off his head. Only for Sinbad to reveal he has a djinn that prevents him from dying even when killed.

>>140961878
I think Ohtaka wanted to do long hair but it would be against the mentality of the character of Morgiana (long hair give problems in combat).

>>140962050
>One shot
>Sinbad

Kek not a chance, nigga is unbelievably broken.

What is this? Hakushit doesn't care of his sister anymore? Shit makes no sense.

>>140962106
But she's had long hair up til now.

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>>140961878
At least she still has those fucking sexy legs.

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>>140962281
That's the thing. Sinbad will look like he died but it's just a set-up for a reveal of another of Sinbad's djinns. Sinbad then stomps like every other MV fight he's had. There's still 3 that haven't been revealed.

Honestly though, I just want to see the female djinn he has that also makes him look female from the omakes.

>>140962838
>short, muscly legs
disgusting

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>>140963009
You take that back, don't talk shit about best girl m8.

>>140963166
She was so cute. Shame about the timeskip look.

>>140963166
whoregiana is far from being best girl

>>140945345
She has less toned arms, I'm hoping this is just a perspective shot due to below angle since the edges on Mor's face are way too chiseled. Also the dot on Alladins face compels my OCD.

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>>140963166
>Who
>Best girl
Pick one

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>>140962838
>>140963009

Just think, they're longer and more shapely than before. Her feet have grown, too, big enough to fill your whole mouth

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>>140963572

>>140945345
>looking more like ugly Solomon
Meh. Sinbad being more blatantly evil was pretty good though. He's my favorite character but it was getting a little tiresome at how Ohtaka kept going "he's so evil guys, look at the dark background and his sinister smile" without actually having him do outright evil things so his character just kept floundering. Since Aladdin's reasons will finally be revealed, now we're getting somewhere. Jafar getting disregarded was a bonus too since shippers are pretty annoying.

All magi chicks have sameface problems.

>>140943339
Fuck sinbad and all this political jew shit. Why wouldn't Kounen ren stay as the big bad and keep shit going like a real nigga.

>>140964573
Kou is garbage and all the people belonging to it are trash.

Thank fuck Haku took a stand their bs.

The women their are trash too.

>>140963166
>best girl
She's not even in the top 5.

>>140964756
>Haku
You mean the edgy faggot who mind raped his own people and started a civil over some petty shit?

>>140964573
Because Kouen would have gotten his ass kicked by Sinbad so bad it wouldn't even have been funny.

>>140964756
>A nation comprising of millions deserves to be thrown in the trash because of the actions of a few individuals within the regime
Spoken like a true Jew.

>their
Never mind, a Jew could afford a decent education.

>>140964860
Kounen has just as many dujin as sinbad that also implies sinbad could kill the phoenix.

>>140964883
>Kounen has just as many dujin as sinbad
Hello speed reader.

>>140964883
Sinbad has 7 "dujin." "Kounen" has 3.

>>140964881
>Nation allying with people like Al thamen
>Wanting world domination
>Not deserving to be put down

>>140964883
Considering what Sinbad was capable of when he was still a kid, Sinbad can just stop Kouen's molecules with Valefor if they ever fought. That is if Zepar somehow doesn't work on Kouen. Not to mention the other djinns he could pull out of his ass. Choosing to fight was the stupidest decision Kouen could have made.

Kouen's plan was never really going to lead to anything and he didn't even believe in it. He got caught up in something too big for him but couldn't handle. At least he realized it and was going to pass to Koumei if they succeeded. Koumei best Kou, the only one with a brain.

>>140965120
Haku didn't give a damn about all that, faggot. He just wanted to become emperor because muh birth right. He's just a selfish retard.

>>140965120
>Nation allying with people like Al thamen
Sinbad is pretty much doing the exact same thing now.

>>140965278
He didn't really want to be the Emperor.

He just wanted to kill/fuck his mom.

Then after the whole Belial thing he went, "Well, might as well take over too."

> Hakuryuu might appear next chapter

The last time he appeared was September 2015. The wait has been killing me.

>>140965278
>He just wanted to become emperor because muh birth right.
The most hilarious thing about that is after all the tens of thousands of people he sacrificed to get that throne, the faggot quits and runs away after just a year in charge, making all of his efforts meaningless. That, and he forced Arba to possess the only person he cared about. What a complete and utter failure.

Top kek.

>>140953086
He was just in denial.

>>140965857
Nope.

He has the main bitch as his bitch and has her in full control.

They aren't in some even terms like Kou and them before.

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why are HxH fans so insecure?

when i lurk their threads they are constantly bashing on magi.
im guessing its because magi is more popular, same as why dota2 fans talk shit about lol and lol players never say anything about dota nor they care.

its that hard to like more than one series at a time?

>>140966875
How do you know it's HxH fans doing the bashing?

>>140966875
Nice pasta.

So does Morg permanently need to be kept in human form with magic or is that only in the dark continent?

>>140951479
Link? I can't find it.

>>140967450
Only in the Dark Continent most likely.

>>140967451
http://reader.sensescans.com/read/adventure_of_sinbad/en/11/102/page/1

Just go to Sense's site directly. More people need to do this.

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yfw there are no more battles and just a big presidential debate between sin and baba. Also chapter spoilers when?

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this was expected. Wonder what sin will say, he's been getting BTFO during this debate

>>140968815
next week. magi's on break this week.

>>140969260
dam it golden week or something?

>>140969350
yup.

>>140963809
>Sinbad being more blatantly evil
He isn't though. He is a kind-hearted man who just wants the best for everyone.

>>140958713

>mayoegg

>>140969393
Indeed. We've seen time and time again that he's kind hearted. He's just sneaky as shit

>>140964773
>She's not even in the top 5.

source: my ass

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>>140966118
>fuck his mom
Did the reason he like Mor was because he saw his mother's image in her?

>>140969370
God, I hate that shit.

Would you recommend this manga? I just learned of its existence.

>>140969106
Ohtaka at the start portrayed kid Sinbad's dream as noble and awe inspiring (which it was). As he grew slightly older and he was still spouting the same words without much direction to them (only gathering more and more power), I really liked how Ohtaka's calling him out on how empty it sounds via Serendine since most readers probably had the same feeling too.

We all know Sinbad gets Zepar in the end but I actually hope there's some shenanigans and Serendine gets it and it just somehow gets passed to him or some shit when she dies. Would also fit how Zepar didn't really like Sinbad at this point.

>>140969657
yeah thats true. Serendines tearing him apart in the debate leaving sin to look like a child. Wonder what his response will be from the marriage proposal.

>>140969614
It's ending soon so I guess you can give it a try.

If you don't find it entertaining after chapter ~80 then drop it.

>>140970218
Is it confirmed to end soon or is it just a rumor/speculation?

>>140969503
My dick actually.

It has never led me astray.

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weekly sinful rolls

>>140970739
Titus get.

>>140970264
It's in it's final major arc but we have no idea how long it will last.

>>140970739
fish time

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>>140970789

>>140970739
Fish roll

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>>140970789
aw yeeeeeeeeeeah Fish food this early

>>140970840
Lucky bastard.

>>140951479
Kubo is responsible for those backgrounds, isn't he?

>>140958051
>>140957357
What if he's the one fucking Mor?

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>>140970840
Dubs and fish dies

>>140964785
He's also fucking your waifu

>>140971559
I remember reading a hentai mango where the faggot buddy mind breaks his friends girl so he can have the guy to himself.

>>140971419
THE RUHK

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wait so how does sinbad run sindria now, is it still an empire or what?

>>140970739
Fish get.

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>>140972379
Feels good.

>>140943339
Any guess on what he intends to do that Aladdin doesn't agree with?

So what's better, this or the Sinbad manga?

>>140973088
This. Sinbad manga is fun but it can't stand alone or compare to the main story.

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Whatever happened to this?

>>140973088
Magi has Alibaba, so Magi.

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i want doujins

>>140973712
We all do anon.

Our only hope is Season 3.

>>140973088
They each have their own strengths. Like adventure and character interactions for Sinbad manga (since it actually has the time to show those things) and the main story and politics/power struggles/social commentary for Magi.

As much as I love Magi, a lot of character dynamics have to be filled in since its focus is on the big story. For example, I really wished Fish and Baba had more time showing how they became friends back when they were still in Sindria. I wish we got way more than their conversation after Fish lost to Sinbad.

SnB fills those things in like how Drakon and Sinbad became friends. The overall story for SnB is weak comparatively though and it's main draw is its connection to Magi - seeing how Sinbad falls and becomes the person you see in the main manga. We all know Barbarossa will fuck things up and Sinbad loses his kingdom so there's not much surprise when you can see a lot of things coming.

>>140961954
Ugo just found the new world and a way to bring people there, it is not clear who created the new world

Serendine is easily becoming best girl in all Magiverse lately.

Too fucking bad she'll die for Sinbad angst.

>>140973946
>tfw you had big hopes for Kougyoku after she became empress
>finally time for her to shine and see how she turns things around
>joke, here's Koumei and Alibaba handle mostly everything

Fucking Ohtaka and her treatment of female characters. Serendine's 200% dead too.

>>140951919
He was a human before hijacking god, moron.

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>>140974049
Fish easily convinced an entire country to go through with Baba's plan. Without her, Koumei and Baba wouldn't have much to send through their magic circles.

>>140972795
He's planning to storm Ugo's hangout with Solomon's Wisdom.

>>140970739
8 get

>>140970739
Fish?

>>140974049
>>140974405
Serendine reasoning about king vs leader reminds me to Fish and Baba actually. I'm now more convinced they'll end up together.

>>140974111
She was always the back up and Ohtaka has been planning this since the beginning. I always found it suspicious how she tried to and succeeded in killing 2/3 of the Hakubros with Hakuryuu only surviving by a miracle after spending several months in a coma while she never did shit to Hakuei.

>>140976025
Haku surviving was part of her plan, she wanted him to fall.

>>140976138
No that was only after he came back alive. She very much wanted them all dead back then.

When Hakuryuu survived and she realized he knows everything, only then did she start playing with him.

>>140967504
>Mor wins the Bababowl
>Gets stuck in permanent fanalis mode

>>140966177
ikr it's been a long wait.

>>140966243
Half of that is mere speculation you pulled out of your ass.

>>140975701
nah would've felt rushed

>>140970739
Fish

>>140970739
Rollan

>>140970739
roll

I want to cum inside Nanaumi.

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>>140947932
>Alibaba would want a giant lizard-wolf thing
>Morg wouldn't need to return to the Fanalis world
>Alibaba can survive there with his weak as shit magic
I see a wizard ending for our homeboy Alibaba or some crack pairing action.

>>140980024
But it's all true. Nothing in that post is wrong.

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>>140982647
I want her to chow down on my dick with those black teeth.

>>140943339
Aladdin and Mor are so ugly now.

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>>140984450
agreed on Who, disagreed on best boy

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Who will win the Bababowl?

>>140970739

>>140984956
Alladin

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>>140985111
Trips confirm.

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>>140984956
It's pretty obvious by now.

>>140984956
Forever alone.

>>140984956
Why can't Baba just take both of them? Isn't that a thing in this series. Fish can be his official waifu and Who can be his mistress.

Aladin stopped being a shota?! PICKED THE FUCK UP! Thanks you time skip.

>>140985436
That would be DISHONORABRU!

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Why do so many people think that Hakuryuu is going to end up with Mor? I could understand If she had some feelings for him too, but it' one sided on his part. And from the last time they interacted, I don't think he even has those feeling for her anymore. I guess something could've happened during the time skip, but I don't really see them getting together romantically.

>>140985865
>I will stop you
Did a great job of that last time, huh.

>>140985865
Because Alibaba/ Mor is boring as hell. Baba deserves best fish girl for all his suffering and their interaction is much more interesting than Baba with Mor.
And Hakuryuu just deserves happiness with the one who he really loves

>>140986051
>And Hakuryuu just deserves happiness with the one who he really loves
After all the people who died because of him, he really deserves nothing but shit.

>>140973883
>>Ugo just found the new world and a way to bring people there, it is not clear who created the new world

I had understood that the planet already existed, so it was not created by Solomon or Ugo.
Ugo has only transferred the population of Alma Torran on the new planet.
I can't understand what does Solomon in this story, he has not done literally nothing. Perhaps it is told that it is all the work of Solomon because everyone is using the Rukh with Solomon will?

>>140986051
Alibaba/Mor is the only couple will development and foreshadowing.

Alibaba's interactions with Kougyoku are of two platonic friends, with no romantic undertones at all.

Hakuryuu after all the shit he's pulled doesn't deserve to happy with anyone. He made his bed and needs to lie in it.

>>140985842
considering how much his father fucked that up thee's no way Alibaba would want to follow his footsteps in that way. Also, he doesn't love fish or even think of Fish that way, she's a friend to him, a close one, but a friend. Fish doesn't see him that way either. Oh, why am I even trying to use logic to appeal to shippers?

>>140986537
There's actually an omake when he gets pissed off with the the Hakuryuu about it.

>>140986537
Don't bother trying to explain that males and females could be just friends to shipperfags. They'll take any interaction between characters and somehow justify whatever pairing they like.

>>140986514
Alibaba and Morgiana had literally no development in their relationship besides him treating her like a thing that could be a trophy girlfriend and her being not sure of how she exactly felt about him when he had died.

I'd rather said Alibaba and Kougyoku developed more in few chapters than those two in the whole manga, not even romantic but just as characters while Morgiana was just degraded to be a shipping fodder for the series.

>>140973421
>Magi has Alibaba, so Magi.

You spelt Aladdin wrong.

No one gives a fuck about baba

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>>140986816
This anon is right

>>140986773
Did you miss that part on the boat where she asked him to wait for her answer, and he agreed? They both have some feelings for each other unlike Hakuryuu which was one sided on his part. It was at that moment AliMor became end game.

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>>140986816
Sorry, shotafag, but Baba is best boy.

Aladdin a shit and used goods.

>>140986773
Alibaba and Mor do have development or did you miss the part about Mor deciding to chase after him, him giving Mor her necklace (which she still wears), him actually being attracted to her, her actually getting jealous of him paying attention to other girls? Seriously, at this point in time you'd have to blind to actually say that they have no development.

Again Alibaba and Koguoku have no romantic development at all, they're just platonic friends, and she doesn't know him better than the others either.

>>140986888
and you think he really took it seriously? He looks like he isn't giving a shit about anyone that isn't Aladdin at this point. I'm not into this whole fishbaba/morbaba war but I don't think morbaba could be called an end game yet, same as fishbaba.

If Alibaba was this concerned about Morgiana, he would go and search for her, but instead he decided to go and help Kougyoku with the empire. It musn't mean he is in love with her, but looks like his feelings were put on the further plan and he will have to choose later.

>>140986340
>all the people who died
Like who? The soldiers? Big deal. Soldiers die in huge wars.
Hakuryuu saved the rest of the world from a retarded Kou expansion and arguably the entire world from Al Thamen summoning Ill Illah again.

This Hakuryuu hate is starting to be retarded.

>>140986713
While shipperfags can get annoying, you people who bitch about them can be just as bad sometimes.

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>>140986973
sure faggot

>>140987028
Hakuryuu was just Sinbad's tool.

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>>140986973
Baba will forever remain a cuck and will never find a hot women in whore houses and will always meet that shemale while my boy stays getting the juice.

>>140987028
>Like who? The soldiers? Big deal. Soldiers die in huge wars.
A huge war the HE started. Which amounted to nothing since he ended up running away from the very thing he started the war over in the first place, rendering all their deaths meaningless.

>saved the rest of the world
No, he just whored it out to Sinbad. All he did was help Arba get closer to David and possess his sister while doing it.

He's an irredeemable piece of shit. Hakuryuufags are delusional to think otherwise.

>>140987123
Nope, the tool part came after. After all the edge was gone.
And even that is arguable given he's now on the Most Wanted list against Sinbad's world.

>>140987021
But we already know that Morgiana's feelings toward Alibaba are love, and that he's attracted to her.

Using common sense, of course Alibaba would realize that finding Aladdin would mean that he's also find Morginana.

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>>140987098
Worst boy is worthless now that puberty hit him. Keep living in the past when he was still cute.

>>140987130
>cuck
>>>/v/

>>140987180
No, the tool part was there all along, or did you miss that foreshadowing during the Sindria arc?

Also like it's been pointed out multiple times, he was the one that started the war, said war became pointless, and in many ways he just made things worse.

He fucked up.

>>140987176
>running away
I love how you keep claiming this with literally nothing to back you up. Your retard is showing.

>whored it to SInbad
If you'd paid any attention, you'd realise that Sinbad had already prepared making the new gadgets etc. Sinbad had already won. Kouen was fighting a losing and retarded battle.
Hakuryuu's actions only served to give Kou a better fighting chance.

>Arba closer to David and possess his sister
Now you're clutching at straws. Hakuryuu killed off Gyokuen and ruined much of Al Thamen's global network. Arba turing to David would've happened the first time they meet aka doesn't matter when it happens.
Also now that Arba is in Hakuei's body, it means she's onto her backup. Otherwise she would've kept Hakuei as a back up until the last moment and no one would've realised until it was too late.

>>140987302
>I love how you keep claiming this with literally nothing to back you up.
Not him, but Hakuryuu literally ran away from Kou and went into hiding. That's an inarguable fact. Read the manga.

>>140987251
Aladdin looks way better than baba now.

Watch him have all the women over him while baba dies in depression.

>>140987270
He asked for Sinbad's help BECAUSE he wanted to split Kou and kill off Gyokuen. Don't mix up the order of the events.
Hakuryuu started out the war with Judar. Sinbad wasn't even involved until later after Hakuryuu lost Judar.

Try reading more carefully next time.

>>140987356
His reasons for doing so have not been revealed in the slightest.
It's stupid to make assumptions and claim it to be fact.

>>140986514
After all the bullshit Haku pulled I don't think he's getting a happy ending. As for the HakuMor stuff, after she rejected him he hasn't shown any sort of romantic interest in her since. And that happened over 100 chapters ago. It's probably not going to happen.

>>140987302
It's funny how you claim that others aren't paying attention yet your posts shows that you definately weren't doing so yourself, projecting much?

We already found out that he abandoned Kou Empire, after he ran it to the ground. He ran away.

The only reason why Hakuryuu stood a chance was because of the Seven Seas Alliance. The Alliance that Sinbad is the leader of, which Hakuryu came to Sindria to ask his assistance in his revenge. So yeah goes without saying Hakuryuu did whored out the world to Sinbad, in return for his revenge.

The whole reason why Arba was capable of taking over Hakuei, was because Hakuryuu killed Gyouken, ironically after Arba left her body. While everyone and their dog was distrusting of Gyouken people didn't have the same worry about Hakuei, so yeah he did fuck his own sister over, didn't actually take his revenge, and though Al Thamen either gone, or they're just working for Sinbad now.

None of this would have happened if he wasn't so focused on revenge.

>>140987455
>His reasons for doing so have not been revealed in the slightest.
While that is true, it doesn't change the fact that he ran away from Kou, which did make his sacrifice of thousands of people in vain. So that anon's point regarding this particular issue still stands.

>>140987455
It's not an assumption the manga outright says that he abandoned Kou empire.

>>140987364
>Aladdin looks way better than baba now.
Aladdin looks like an uglier version of Solomon. Shit.

>>140987302
>nothing to back you up.
Except the fucking manga itself. Yunan tells as much to Alibaba in the first chapter of the arc. Pay fucking attention.

>Hakuryuu's actions only served to give Kou a better fighting chance.
How does handing Kou on a silver platter to the man who would then plunge it into a state of perpetual destitution giving it "a better fighting chance"? Kou was a concerning obstacle for Sinbad, and regardless of whatever stance you're on about who's right and wrong, it's undeniable that Hakuryuu handed Sinbad his victory.

Your last point is just rambling. He incapacitated the body of Al Thamen (for now, at least), but the head of the organisation is alive an well in the vessel that is his sister, who was the only real family he had left.

>>140987650
>after he ran it to the ground
Again you're making idiotic opinions and passing it off as facts.

True, he won the war only because of SInbad's backing.
>whored out the world to Sinbad
Wrong. Kou was already on a path of ruin. Kouen would've ended up fucking the country harded than it's current position. Sinbad had already won the war after he realised his connection to David and decided to use it after the conference.

>whole reasons Arba was capable
True. And how is that a bad thing? Arba obviously had Hakuei as a backup so if anything it was great that Hakuryuu destroyed her Gyokuen vessel and forced her onto her backup.
Or maybe you think pretending to ignore a problem will make it go away? Like Kouen did regarding Arba? Yeah good move.

>>140987659
Technically it would but not in the way he intended it to sound.

Why is boob ninja with them I thought the samurai worked for sinbad?

>>140987396
>Sinbad wasn't even involved until later after Hakuryuu lost Judar.
Hakuryuu calls Sinbad his "original plan". He was clearly waiting in the wings for a good while.

Man Morg got so uglyI kinda want haku to end up with someone else

>>140988121
>Again you're making idiotic opinions and passing it off as facts.
Does the state Kou is in now remind you of a prosperous and affluent country? It sure doesn't seem that way to me.

>>140988032
Give me a single instance where it's mentioned that he ran away because he thought he was useless. Him 'running away' is merely what he did literally. His reasons for not doing so hasn't been elaborated upon. Pay attention.

Because under Kouen, Kou would've ended up in a far shittier situation with it's war policies and because of Sinbad.
Sinbad gained Kou within his council willingly and yet we see how he treats it. Imagine the situation where he would've gained control after defeating it.
Kou is in a better situation that before. Can't help that it's still shitty because of the damage done by Kouen's warmongering.

>>140988317
>than before
*than what it could've been

>>140988317
>Give me a single instance where it's mentioned that he ran away because he thought he was useless. Him 'running away' is merely what he did literally. His reasons for not doing so hasn't been elaborated upon. Pay attention.
No one is speculating on the reason he ran away. That's what you're doing to try and justify your argument, but it is completely irrelevant. Regardless of the reason, he ran away from Kou, and that is the original point you were trying to dispute. But you can't dispute that, nothing in the manga contradicts it.

Why is this Hakuryuufag trying to defend his shitty edgelord?

>>140988429
Sure. If we're talking about the technicality aka 'Hakuryuu is no longer the Emperor since he abandoned the throne' without trying to pass off any opinionated reasons on why he might've ran away then yeah, he ran away.

>>140988121
It's not an opinion, Kou isn't prosperous, iKou was doing better before he came into power, in fact it's his fault that they ended up in that position to begin with.

>Wrong. Kou was already on a path of ruin. Kouen would've ended up fucking the country harded than it's current position. Sinbad had already won the war after he realised his connection to David and decided to use it after the conference.
It literally wasn't though, Kou was one of the largest and most most prosperous empires before Hakuryuu decided to chase after his revenge. Sinbad only won the war by using Hakuryuu's short-sighted revenge against him. Hakuryuu provided Sinbad with the shortcut he needed to fuck up Kou.

>True. And how is that a bad thing? Arba obviously had Hakuei as a backup so if anything it was great that Hakuryuu destroyed her Gyokuen vessel and forced her onto her backup.

Call me crazy, but I think that the fact that his sister's body is now gotten taken over by a being that wants to mess up the world, and he gave her the means of doing so, on top of putting her in a position where she can't be touched, and actually failing to achieve his revenge isn't a good thing.

>>140988558
Cool. Glad we agree.

>>140987008
> her actually getting jealous of him paying attention to other girls?

When did this happen? I mean, Alibaba has never gotten attention from girls. Usually that's Aladdin, the only time I remember jealousy is when she got ditched by them so they could go to a brothel.

>>140988476
This.

What makes him so appealing? He's an edgy little shit who throws tantrums when he doesn't get what he wants. Sure Baba might be pathetic sometimes but at least be has his moments.

>>140988722
When Alibaba said that Toto was his girlfriend or something among those lines. Morgiana started feeling weird seeing them together.

>>140988722
That scene, and her reaction to thinking that Toto and Alibaba were dating.

>>140988639
Everyone enjoys their life in an economic bubble right before it bursts. Kou was in a similar position.
You don't need to be a genius to know that a country run with military policy being it's main economic force is not viable at all. It was going to fall apart sometime or the other.
And factor in the fact that Sinbad decided to use David's power and Kou's defeat became a certainty.

By joining up with the SSA, Kou avoided the worst possible outcome. The fact that even this situation is shitty can be blamed on the previously mentioned war driven policies of Kou.
The manga speaks of how Hakuryuu tried to change things before it was too late but unfortunately, it was already too late.

Oh yes, I agree that Hakuryuu is in a worse situation that before. I can only hope Judar manages to convince him to fight again.
Given that 'Arba' is still alive and she's now in Hakuei, Hakuryuu is in a shittier situation than before. However for the rest of the world, it's a better position, Arba lost her primary vessel and is now on her backup and Al Thamen lost all power.

>>140974366
So? He was the most powerful magician in Alma Torran. Big difference.

Hakuryuu poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/10109418

>>140988794
Jealous cunt.

>>140989039
But what happened with Kou has very little to do with Economics and a lot to do with politics.

What Hakuryuu did which was stupid was that he put Kou empire in a position where the politics and their economy were no longer syncing, by submitting himself and the Kou Empire to Sinbad's will, which only made everything they ever did to get money illegal. Then didn't stick around to fix the problem.

>>140989322
Except it doesn't. Economic policy is much of what drive politics in general.

Kou made war it's primary source of income. It shot itself in the foot.
Only thing left was for all the blood to bleed out before death.
What Hakuryuu did can amount of cutting off the parts with gangrene but by then it was already too late.

He's responsible for Kou's current situation. However, as shitty as it may be, he saved it from complete destruction.
Now what remains is to know why he abandoned the empire after all that jazz about leaving the black rukh etc.

>>140977424
Well, she wouldn't be the first animal who falls for him.

>>140986051
>And Hakuryuu just deserves happiness with the one who he really loves
Judar?

Seriously. Judar/Hakuryuu interaction is so much better than the whole Morg thing.

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>>140989670
Yep, as a straight Hakuryuufag, I confirm I prefer Judar teasing Hakuryuu for all eternity over Hakumor/any ship

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>>140989871
>straight
Sure m8.

>>140986888
He didn't even think about mor prior to that and only started up because finally someone was attracted to him. Even worse is that the given reason for mor's feelings is that baba freed her even though that was all Aladdin. At the very least haku made an effort to get with mor while mor just sat by with baba and baba literally pulled affection out of nowhere for mor.

>>140986514
>development
they had none compared to baba and fish especially on baba's end. He only went for mor because he found out she liked and even mor saw that his feelings were shallow.

>>140989534
Other way around, politics is what drives economics, economic policy is effected primarily by politics. While economics can effect politics but not half as much as politics can effect it.

When Hakuryuu made those decisions he did so without considering politics OR economics, but rather his own personal feelings. If Hakryuu had not sought revenge then Kou would have been just fine, since without any outside influence that war would have gone on for a while. However, because of Hakuryuu it ended and thus they were fucked over, Reim is in a similar position.

>>140986514
>no romantic undertones or foreshadowing
They've almost gotten married twice. Baba gives Fish gifts of flowers, she giggles when he teases her, and they can't keep their hands off each other. Whether or not it was intentional, there are absolutely romantic undertones at play here, m8. And those two almost-marriages could absolutely serve as foreshadowing.

>>140990197
Baba and fish's only interaction was Baba explaining his mother to her and him bailing her out of her situation, which was more about him standing up to Sinbad than anything else. All of which is insanely platonic and isn't significant in any way shape or form, since, neither has ever expressed anything resembling attraction to the other either. It's actually even more shallow than Morg and Alibaba.

>>140990631
I don't ship either pairing, but how were Baba and Fish's interactions with each other shallow?

>>140990536
It was so forced
I bet she is going to get killed by Arba and Alibaba will get angry lol
I called it
Remember this post in three years, anons

>>140990631
They're close because they talk a lot and can relate to each other, and he says himself he's helping Kou because he wants to make up for what he let happen to Fish. You're crazy if you think their relationship is shallow.

>>140990536
>This delusion
He never gave her gift of flowers, he only taught her how to make flower crown, which is how they became friends in the first place. They've pretty much keep their hands to themselves, and she isn't anymore touchy feely with him than she is with her attendant, the most is grab his hand friends.

I was waiting for someone to bring up the engagement, because on a whole Kougyoku doesn't give a shit about personal feelings in regards to political marriage, or did you forget that she had absolutely no problem marrying Alibaba's short, fat, ugly brother? While Alibaba has actually expressed misgivings about political marriages, due to his history.

Any "romantic undertones" you see are just your delusions.

>>140990768
>I called it
You can only say that once the event that you called has actually happened, which it hasn't yet.

>>140990733
Because there's no real personal feelings attached to it from Alibaba's end. And their friendship on his end isn't at the level of his other friends.

>>140990836
They only really talked to each other once about their similar pasts, and that's literally it. He's only helping her because they're friends and because it's putting him against Sinbad. Him helping her has more to do with Sinbad than it does with Kogyoku, again she's just being used.

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>>140990839
>not understanding what "undertones" actually means
This discussion is pointless.

>>140990919
lol you sure love to take things literally.

>>140991009
That's some fine deluding and selective reading you've managed to do.

>>140991009
>They only really talked to each other once about their similar pasts, and that's literally it.
they've been living together for months. the fuck you think they've been doing all this time?
>Him helping her has more to do with Sinbad than it does with Kogyoku
this delusion.

>>140991009
>Because there's no real personal feelings attached to it from Alibaba's end.
Of course there are, he clearly values her as a friend. His feelings towards her can be entirely platonic and not romantic in the least, but to say there's no personal attachment there is wrong.

>>140991009
>And their friendship on his end isn't at the level of his other friends
Yet he prioritized her over even finding Aladdin and the others. Hmm, you're peddling some grade A bullshit there, my friend.

>>140991146
This is what I'm seeing from their interactions, they are good friends. Where are people getting these "romantic undertones" from?

>>140990475
That's what I meant to say. That it's a symbiotic relation.

No, not really. Again, Kou's economy was driven by war and thus it was destined to fail. Reim was self sustained. Both of them only shared the similarity of being autonomous, aside from that both of them were entirely different.

>>140991232
See >>140990536. They might not be intentional but we sure would be calling these two fags if Fish were a guy.

>>140991017
He sees her trying to make a flower crown and then Right back at you, since the scene is platonic as hell. The scene was just supposed to be the start of their friendship. The only way to take it as romantic is to ignore the situation, characters, and dialogue.

>>140991060
Says the person shipping two characters, who show no attraction or desire to be in a relationship with each other.

>>140991358
Again, you seem to have no idea what undertones actually are.

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>>140990019
holy shit arbas been lookin fine these past few chapters. has sin tapped it yet

>>140991423
What anyone ships has nothing to do with how poorly you understand the story.

>>140991313
Not really, politics effects economy more than economy effects economy.

But the case isn't that simple here. Since the it was really a person putting their own personal vendatta before both the politics and the economy.

>>140991438
Hopefully, I want to hear Arba brag about it to Hakuryuu's face.

>>140991338
Of course Alibaba treats her differently than he would a male friend, she's a girl. When you have female friends you generally can't treat them the same as you would your male friends.

>>140991425
I do know what uindertones, your just trying insert undertones where there aren't any.

>>140991614
Except he treats Morg and Toto like his male friends except for when he's thinking with his dick. He's much gentler with Fish.

>>140991504
Again says the shipper, seriously you fishbabafags remind me nsfags.

>>140991531
Well it's not a democracy. Imperial systems work on very personal lines since the rule of the country itself is personal and family centric.

>>140991682
>>140991717
learn english, faggot

>>140991710
Morg and Toto are also warriors who don't take kindly to being treated differently. While Kougyoku she's a princess and a person who is easily hurt, so he does need to need to treat her differently.

Morg and Toto are tomboys, Kogyoku is girly girl.

>>140991425
What undertones anon? As far as I remember there hasn't been a single page showing romantic interest from either of them. They like each other platonically, but I'm not seeing the supposed romance.

>>140991768
Again you remind me of nsfags, they used to argue to same way too, inserting undertones where they weren't any and were convinced they were right, and look where they ended up.

>>140991847
Read the thread you're in, yeah?
>>140991338
>>140990536

>>140991752
Actually because it's not a democracy would mean that economics doesn't effect politics, but politics effects the economy.

And because Hakuryuu is emperor his and solely his decisions effects the economy.

>>140991951
You're not talking to just one anon, and again, there are no romantic undertones, beyond your fanfiction.

>>140991880
>>140991717
fuck off with your cancer, illiterate narutard

>>140992023
Does the truth hurt?I'm

>>140991951
You are talking to virgins
It's not like they will understand what romantic undertones are even if you tell them lol

>>140991976
Yep, but his actions before becoming Emperor matter solely on becoming Emperor.
As in taking revenge for the death of his father, the Emperor and the Crown Princes is what would be considered optimum.

>>140992021
Just because they're not meant to be there doesn't mean they're not there. Clearly plenty of people have picked up on them, otherwise we wouldn't be having this Bababowl shipfaggotry every thread.

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>>140992065
Then help me understand anon. People keep throwing around the word undertones without backing it up. That page with the flower crown has nothing romantic about. You call people a virgin, but do you have any female friends? Not every moment between a guy and a girl has to be romantic.

>>140992489
The virgin is mad because he can't flirt lol

>>140992550
>Projecting this hard

>>140992618
loool

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>>140992489
No, but a thing like a guy giving a girl flowers as an apology is romantically coded in the real world. The author's intentions only go so far when she tries to make something her audience normally reads as romantic, platonic. She herself even went so far as to joke about how romantic that chapter looked in a BS post. So obviously there are some undertones there.

what kind of trade deals did sin make at the start of his company anyway. Was it that the countries have to exclusively deal through him?

>>140991438
Probably not.

The guy is way too much into his perfect world shit for that stuff, that moron.

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>Sincucks not realizing that based Kouen is the best character in the series
Stay pleb.

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Will Baba's household grow bigger than this, or will it stay this size?

>>140994979
Why is every member of his household so shit? Is that really the best he can do?

>>140995042
>Toto
>Shit
Take that back, faggot.

>>140995130
Toto is the least shit but still shit.

>>140995042
The problem is that Ohtaka doesn't put any focus on them whatsoever. For example, I thought Hakuryuu killing Baba would be a perfect opportunity for her to give Olba some development, since he's have a genuinely good motivation for at least confronting Hakuryuu over killing two people he cared about. Instead, Aladdin gave him some moralfag speech about how revenge is bad and he should just stand on the sidelines and watch.

Contrast this with Sinbad's household, who have (almost) all been given at least decent screentime and development, in both Magi and the SnB prequel.

>>140991976
You do realize that this manga take place when war and policy are higher than economy , where instead the money that rule but the king that rule.

>>140994979
Can't wait for Alibaba to meet up with his household and rekt Sinbad's shit.

>>140994979
His arc in Kou is likely set up so a few people from there join.

>>140994979
I always thought Sphintus would become apart of his household.

>>140996024
I can see Koumei becoming a member desu.

>>140995857
belive me , author think it stupid and cliche and replace with more stupid plot

>The only people hating on Mor are the shitty FishXBaba shippers because they are mad that she will win
lol

>>140996472
I don't dislike her, but she is rather boring.

>>140996472
Judging by past Magi threads, it's way more than just Fishbaba shippers who hate her.

>>140996472
[Citation needed]

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>>140996472
I don't get the Mor hate either. She's cute.

>>140996866
Every thread ever.

>>140996945
>thinking just fishxbaba shippers hate her
lol
>thinking she will win
loooooool

>>140991017
A-1 adaptation of that part was fantastic.

>>140996996
Ebin

>>140997009
I liked the way they added in small details to their scenes, like Alibaba catching Kougyoku when she fell out of the sky. And splitting one of their long conversations in two parts made their relationship progression more natural. It was nice.

>>140996472
i could care less about shipping but she's a waste of space and deserves all the hate she gets

>>140970739
Rollin'

>>140996472
Eh. Morgiana is such a fucking non entity even after ALL this time. Her greatest accomplishment being the sexy dance in the S1 BD. She also needs a personality.

>>140997279
They changed the setting as well, making it much more theatrical. This is how you adapt manga properly.

>>140997009
One of the few things they got right.

>>140953424
I cant read moon anon

>>140943339
Was Arba originally supposed to be Aladdin's mum?