Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1526

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今回は喧嘩しないでくれる

みんな愛してるぜ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHVoKEK6Txg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
You've got to work hard for your success and you've got to have a steady presence. That's the secret.

the only true DJT. report/hide the others.

>>140913745
Why the fuck are you retards making 2 threads? If you guys are going to have your cancer generals on the board, keep it into one fucking thread. I don't care if you guys are having drama over stupid shit, keep it into one fucking thread. There wasn't anything wrong with the previous OP from what I see. The only thing different with it is the image and you can't seriously be telling me that using a different one is your problem?

>>140913865
Wouldn't you rather listen to real music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFJYSHnMM6Q

>>140914185

Why are you this upset? It's just an extra thread. Pls. chill and/or kill yourself.

>>140914185
The guy who always posts the girl with the mouse ear hat just can't help himself. We don't like him and his shit either.

>>140914189
大日本帝国万歳!!!

>>140914189
いや結構

>>140914274
preferably just chill no need to kill

A translator friend of mine who's been studying for about five years said I should maybe try translating some manga. Been out of practice for a long time so I decided to give it a whirl, and man even though I was dealing with a shonen comedy manga I wanted to tear my hair out. My translator friend got back to me after looking at my work and about for about half of it I almost completely missed the point of the dialog.

Never gonna make it, fellas

>>140914185
Why are you posting that here instead of in the thread that was posted second?

>>140914185
We encountered someone so autistic that they spend over a week straight doing nothing but shitposting in this thread. Trust me we wish this wasn't happening as much as you do.

>>140914964
Sounds like you really shouldn't be translating then to be honest. Don't translate to learn. Translate after learning.

Translating is pretty hard and you want to be able to focus on writing the English, which is hard enough on its own without having to worry about interpreting the Japanese

>>140914964
>Been out of practice for a long time
>Never gonna make it
Well, obviously not if you don't put any work into it.

>>140915079
i agree dont try to translate anything because much like handwriting speaking and production it is a useless endeavor that does not help you learn japanese

if youre doing anything other than flashcards dojg and visual novels youre wasting your time

>>140915326

Please take your passive-aggressive shitposting to the other thread.

>>140915079
>Sounds like you really shouldn't be translating then to be honest. Don't translate to learn. Translate after learning.

This, it's one of the mistakes I made. Translating is it's own separate skill set that takes time to learn, you really can't do it while learning japanese.

>>140915326
How did you miss the point of his post so bad? If you're not fluent enough to translate properly you should improve your skills, otherwise it can even be counterproductive if you completely mess up the translation

>>140915538
trust me im hangin out in all the djts i am a equal opportunity poster

>>140915626
how did you miss the point of my post so bad

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Where does Rikaisama get its frequency information? Is there someplace I can look at a whole list of the dictionary in order of frequency?

>>140915626
These threads are just full of people that want to believe they are in a higher level of learning japanese than they really are. I've been at it for two years and still find shit everyday that makes me feel stupid that I didn't know.

命有っての物種 was one today, i tried forever to make sense of it till I looked it up and found it was a set phrase.

>>140913745>>140915612
this

>>140915890
EPWING, I presume.

>>140915891
that mindset doesnt exist thats actually just a illusion perpetuated by your own freakin brain dude

good on you for learning stuff every day is a chance to learn

im leaning back waiting for all the creative witty retorts

>>140916083
The more time I spend actually using the language the more, I just kinda stay quite and try not to give advice or translate shit while just letting it sink in. It's humbling when you actually try to read non anime shit, and try to pay attention to the news or radio broadcasters talking, or watch commentary on sports events. Once you get away from "onii chan no chinchin daisuki” shit it's eye opening.

我、自閉症スペクトラム病
それおり翔り

>>140916322
>Once you get away from "onii chan no chinchin daisuki”
>implying there are other reasons to learn nihongo

>another day
>another 200+ words mined
I guess the 10k slowdown meme only applies to people who only play moege/nukige

>>140916322
if you spent most of your time with anime or related entertainment yeah i imagine theres quite a culture shock so to speak

but anime japanese is totally the same thing as normal people japanese right

>>140916422
>イマジネーション
>イマ自閉症

"literally indistinguishable"

>>140916703
Whatever you say Sakura-san.

>>140913745
sakura autist btfo yet again

>>140916703
Still sitting here fluent at 6k in anki

>>140916820
yeah BTFO dude nice meme nice post thanks for making our streets clean

>>140916820
You would think he would haven given up by now. Or that the janitors would be quicker.

自分を世界さえも変えてしまえそうな

>>140917246
もう読んだ

watashi wa sugoi nihon suki desu. also anime suki, manga suki. anata wa suki?

>欧米
>おうべい
>Obey

Coincidence?

>>140917504
What about
名前
なまえ
Name

>>140915890
http://www.hellodamage.com/tdr/archive/7diary/byfreq.html

http://www.manythings.org/japanese/words/leeds/

Dunno about Rikai doe

>>140917939
Forgot to say the second link sometimes kills your browser.

>>140917939
Wow thanks now I can make my own deck without having to remove 6000+ words from core.

>>140918321
You could also look up Kanji (in the most common order) on Jisho ( http://jisho.org/search/*%E7%B2%A7* ) and add the words which come up. There's also a note on what's a common word and what not. Someone said the most common list is not so accurate but I think it works fine. The words are sorted by frequency.

>>140918613
I prefer just having a long comprehensive list and using auto import.

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How goes your mining today?

>>140918688
I just sat on a トイレ and the mining just happened on its own

Anyone know of Japanese talking just to listen to? I've tried a few different online Japanese radio stations but a lot of it is mainly music.

>>140913745
Anyone else loves lurking this thread even though they're not learning Japanese at all? It's fun to watch everyone else learn.

一番好きなyoutubeチャネルは？

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>>140918688

>>140918974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPSm4uhlQ6w

>>140917757
I was making a joke.

>>140919098
I do

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>>140918688
Haven't started yet today, but it has been going okay lately. I have a huge backlog of 1000 words that I haven't seen yet, so I keep trying to mine words and they already exist.

Was supposed to finish Satsukoi tonight, but I might not make it. My goal was to finish by May 1, but I think finishing on May 1 should be fine.

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What does すき , in kana, means? Does it means something like lying on the floor?
I know 好き means kinda like "love" btw.

I'm asking to get this joke.
I think they're related
http://gelbooru.com//images/93/a2/93a21d1efcfb2b06c35637d94be278e4.png?2187444
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2187447
>"hehehehe, it's funny because it's an injoke"
I don't get that guy.

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>>140919415
>I have a huge backlog of 1000 words that I haven't seen yet
>huge

pic not counting core6k

>>140919549
Those are all from mining?

I really hate trying to mine a word that I already have, it is such a waste of time and makes me lose focus. Having this backlog is annoying. I don't want to, but I am going to have to increase my new words per day.

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All these cards and I still feel like a beginner...

>>140919767
What deck?

>>140919803
One I made up as I went along, new words and grammar from lessons, here and there.

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>>140919767

>>140920299
Everyone who learned English (as a seconf language) knows that you don't need to know every word. You can probably read most of it knowing half of these words

>>140920522
So that's why you guys get into arguments so often.

>>140920299
That probably doesn't take into account expressions and combinations of words that have to be learned on their own. So realistically it's probably closer to 30-40 thousand for adequate comprehension of most material.

>>140920686
it's word families instead of individual or compounds

>>140920760
Yes but it doesn't take 慣用句 or 言い回し into account.

>>140919415
You're more likely to make it if you actually read it instead of wasting time here, friend.
I was pretty disappointed with the ending anyway. Certainly not the emotionally hitting, powerful scene I was expecting.

>>140919488
The joke isn't the すき part, it's the ゆず part.

>>140915326
I'd say watching TV (without subs, and not just animu) and actually speaking the language are NOT wastes of time. And reading is important

>>140920911
nothing gets my ちんこ harder than some 単語数える

>>140921045
the joke was all of those things are important and you should actually do them all

>>140920987
So it was the typical ゆず joke ,the name of yuzu-chan and the fruit? Oh well, I thought it was something different because he said "inside joke" so I imagined it was an gelbooro inside joke instead of a yuzu/fruit joke.
Thanks oneechan.

>>140920911
There aren't 10000-20000 慣用句 or 言い回し you need to know, dude.

I have actually discovered that eating some くそ before doing flashcards really helps in learning Japanese.

>>140921320
実は i skip the flashcard part and am just content eating the クソ

です

>read 欧州中央銀行制度
>oh wow this word is long no way I can re...
>欧州
>中央
>銀行
>制度

>>140921806
isnt it dope when big words often define themselves as opposed to complex english technical terms where you have no idea what the fuck

Today, I learned that あれこれ can also be かれこれ. Why?

>>140920983
I was watching Dimension W instead of reading. But now I've finished that, so I can put in 2-3 hours of reading before bed.

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>>140913745
If I keep this up, I may just end up learning Japanese.
Anyone else feeling positive about their studies at the moment?

>>140921946
Well, in English it'd be European System of Central Banks, separate words too. I guess you could compare Japanese to German in that it'd the combination of multiple words looks like a single long-ass word.

Core10K
http://core6000.neocities.org/10k/
Unique words in Core10K (not from 6K)
http://core6000.neocities.org/10k/new.html

>>140921982
not trying to be rude but did google not come preinstalled on your computer

>>140921982
i was just saying sort of as a by the by kinda thing cause yeah that term is pretty what you see is what you get in either language but something like 人間中心主義 is more what i mean

>>140918321
You can also install 1612642956 for anki and auto-generate frequency information. If you replace its sqlite file with the one Rikasama uses then you'll get more up-to-date results.

>>140921946
A lot of complex "English" jargon have Greek and Latin roots, which are rather self explanatory in a similar manner to Japanese compounds.

>>140919100
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoWIVzxp6oLjsGMGuzzmxig

>>140917939
>Bulk corpora with no tokenizing quality control
dropped
use a frequency dictionary of japanese

>>140922964
Why?

>>140923212
because
656 112.23 法律
657 111.96 機関
658 110.75 開く
659 110.53 ビジネス

>>140923233
Can you explain those figures a little more?

>>140923233
Great explanation

>>140923260
those are from http://corpus.leeds.ac.uk/frqc/internet-jp.num
far left is ranking, middle is frequency per million words, far right is token
the corpus used for this is extremely biased towards words that would show up in info pages and news, and 法律 機関 ビジネス are all ranked directly next to 開く
in a frequency dictionary of japanese, they're ranked much lower (but still present in the top 5k)

>>140923332
>the corpus used for this is extremely biased towards words that would show up in info pages and news
Okay then. Why is this a bad thing?

>>140923368
because it means that words extremely common in narration or speech but very rare in infopages and news will be pushed away

>>140923332
>extremely biased towards words that would show up in info pages and news
That's the purpose. These words show up often so they have a high frequency

>>140923438
And 柔らかい and 一人暮らし don't deserve to have a high frequency?

>>140923402
>because it means that words extremely common in narration or speech but very rare in infopages and news will be pushed away
How did you come to that conclusion?

>>140923476
I checked.

>>140923473
Why would anything deserve to have a certain frequency? Isn't the purpose of frequency to monitor the number of occurrences, not place value judgements?

>>140923473
If they don't show up so often on the sources which have been used, appearently no. You don't have to use it if you don't like it you know

>>140923524
When you have a biased sample space you're already placing a value judgment towards the domain that you're sampling from.

>>140923520
Are you saying these "extremely common in narration" words are not common in news and informational contexts?

>>140923568
Aren't you arguing this very thing, though? That the corpus ought value common speech over news and info pages? How did you come to the conclusion that your position is superior?

>>140923570
The answer is apparently yes judging by the quality of this frequency list.
>>140923606
>Aren't you arguing this very thing, though?
I'm arguing against biased samples like a totally unmoderated crawl of the internet, which is what this list used.
>That the corpus ought value common speech over news and info pages?
It doesn't. Narration and speech are by far among the smallest of content on the internet.
>How did you come to the conclusion that your position is superior?
How did you come to the conclusion that the position that this frequency list is unbiased is an unusual or strange one to take?

>>140923708
>is unbiased is
is unbiased isn't*

>>140923708
>I'm arguing against biased samples like a totally unmoderated crawl of the internet, which is what this list used.
Wouldn't that make it less biased than a controlled sweep?
>Narration and speech are by far among the smallest of content on the internet.
Ergo wouldn't that naturally place higher value on things which are not narration and speech?
>How did you come to the conclusion that the position that this frequency list is unbiased is an unusual or strange one to take?
I didn't make that statement. Could you answer my question?

>>140923708
>>How did you come to the conclusion that the position that this frequency list is unbiased is an unusual or strange one to take?
Not him but
>When you have a biased sample space you're already placing a value judgment towards the domain that you're sampling from.
You are being biased so accusing other people of being biased doesn't make much sense.

It's a frequent list which may be good when you consider reading some of the sources being used. If you plan to read VN, LN or other media you should use another list.
But no one said the list can be used for any kind of media. You just made this assumption and started to argue against this.

tl;dr

>>140923849
>You just made this assumption and started to argue against this.
Exactly. A common strawman arugment because for whatever reason anon doesn't seem to want to admit that he has a biased position based on a value judgement he does not want to directly explain.

>>140923838
>Wouldn't that make it less biased than a controlled sweep?
No, because "the entire internet" is not an unbiased sample of communication. It contains a lot of duplicate informational text and very little casual sidetalk.
>Ergo wouldn't that naturally place higher value on things which are not narration and speech?
No, because "the entire internet" is not the a reasonable target for learning a language. Informational texts are not intelligible until you have a reasonable level of fluency.
>I didn't make that statement. Could you answer my question?
Of course you didn't, so why should I answer your question about something I didn't say?

>>140923849
>You are being biased so accusing other people of being biased doesn't make much sense.
That's not an accusation, that's an answer. Take a look at what that statement was directly responding to.

>using language exchange chat apps
Is it bad that I'm liking the normie experience?

>>140923970
>normie

Neck yourself

>>140923949
>No, because "the entire internet" is not the a reasonable target for learning a language
Why?
Justify this statement.
>Informational texts are not intelligible until you have a reasonable level of fluency.
The same can be said about any text aimed at native adults.

>so why should I answer your question about something I didn't say?
You are clearly insinuating that your position is superior to the "biased" other sample of a wide sweep of the Internet. Explain the reasoning which provided this conclusion.

>>140924071
Someone said, "This is the literal frequency, and I said, "This is a biased frequency". I never said my position wasn't biased away from business/informational material. I only argued that "this" was worse, and gave my reason. You don't have to agree with my reason, but if you're just going to insist that I'm arguing something that I'm not arguing, you don't have a place to stand.

>>140924100
>No, because "the entire internet" is not the a reasonable target for learning a language
Why?
Justify this statement.

>>140924071
>Explain the reasoning which provided this conclusion.
he already did bro, did you read his posts

>>140924123
kill yourself you insufferable argumentative autist

>>140923918
And what exactly is my biased position? I made clear that I think the list is good for newspaper and similar sources because they've been used to make the list. I also said it's not a good list for VN and LN.
>>140923949
>
That's not an accusation, that's an answer. Take a look at what that statement was directly responding to.
Answering a question with an answer isn't an answer /a/non. You tend to avoid giving clear answers it seems
>No, because "the entire internet" is not the a reasonable target for learning a language
That's your opinion again. Other people may have a different opinion about this matter
>Of course you didn't, so why should I answer your question about something I didn't say?
He answered all your questions but you are just avoiding giving answers. You probably realized already that the other anon is right so just give up, otherwise it's going to end in shitposting

dang i cant even go to the bathroom or you guys start fightin over nerd shit

>>140924153
>Answering a question with an answer isn't an answer /a/non. You tend to avoid giving clear answers it seems
What? I gave as clear a statement as I could to that. You seem to be crossing streams.
>>140923524
>Isn't the purpose of frequency to monitor the number of occurrences, not place value judgements?
>>140923568
>When you have a biased sample space you're already placing a value judgment towards the domain that you're sampling from.

You quoted that out of context, and implied that I was accused him of being biased. I was not. I was telling him that this list is already placing a value judgment, because he was trying to use that as rhetoric. You lack reading skills, or memory.

>>140924151
>he already did bro
No, he didn't.
>kill yourself you insufferable argumentative autist
It's a simple question anon is evading. Fuck off with your buzzwords.

>>140924255
>No, he didn't.
he did, you just didn't personally like the answer so you ignored it
try again

>>140924280
No he didn't.
>inb4 samefag

>>140924310
nigga did you even read the conversation you're a part of
>>140923708
>The answer is apparently yes judging by the quality of this frequency list.

Fucking hell, this is a lost cause. They should just put us out of our misery and ban DJT from /a/ once and for all.

>>140924280
No, he didn't.
That wasn't an answer, it was evasion. He didn't actually address any of the points, instead trying to deflect. Anon made a clear judgement call then tried to insinuate that one was better than the other. Anon is yet to justify the following statement, which underpins his rhetoric:
>No, because "the entire internet" is not the a reasonable target for learning a language
Anon is yet to justify his reasoning for making the claim. I don't know why it is so damn hard to answer a straight forward question.

>>140922157
I'd recommend lowering your new card limit. You might be able to keep up with that many reviews for a few days, but you're going to get seriously sick of it before too long.

>>140924355
Shut the fuck up sakura autist

>>140924355
Or you could always start up a new conversation, triggered sperglord.

Shall I post some more frequency lists so that anon can argue again 柔らかい should deserve a higher ranking?

>>140924355
kill yourself phone
>>140924375
>That wasn't an answer, it was evasion.
and where exactly did he take this "evasion"
>He didn't actually address any of the points, instead trying to deflect.
he addressed pretty much everything until you exposed yourself of just arguing for the sake of arguing
>Anon made a clear judgement call
so did you, assuming that an arbitrary biased corpus is worth learning for
it doesn't matter how much kind of filtering you do, any filtering will filter out total crap like 10000 copies of a wikipedia article
use your head nigga
>then tried to insinuate that one was better than the other.
this might surprise you but people are allowed to have opinons
>Anon is yet to justify the following statement, which underpins his rhetoric:
>>No, because "the entire internet" is not the a reasonable target for learning a language
im pretty sure people are allowed to take postulates man. there's no knowing one way or another whether it's better to target "the entire internet" or not, so there doesn't need to be a reason for having that kind of opinion.

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How do I align this text?

>>140922226
I think the order of the 10K deck is a lot better than that of the 6K one. It's a shame that you have to manually reposition and reschedule the cards from the one from the CoR to get the order right, and there are no instructions with the deck telling you that since the shared deck page for it on the Anki site is gone. The 10K deck from the CoR also doesn't work right with KanjiGrid for some reason (the "order found" order is wrong).

>>140924497
>there's no knowing one way or another whether it's better to target "the entire internet" or not, so there doesn't need to be a reason for having that kind of opinion.
Are you retarded? Anon/you made a fucking judgement call on this very fucking thing and when asked to justify the reasoning, that is: explain the statement instead of just putting it out there and expecting people to accept it, he/you has since avoided answering the question.

It hasn't actually been addressed. Do you think people are blind or something?

>>140924583
Fuck off shitposter.
Stop posting old images from conversations had by other people ages ago.

>>140924677
>Fuck off shitposter.
>Stop posting old images from conversations had by other people ages ago.
thanks for exposing that it was you all along my good schizophrenic pedophile

>>140924677
Fuck off sakura autist, we all know it's you.

>>140924677
oh my god he actually fell for the bait

>>140924650
Oh, and it seems to me that some of the cards in the 10K deck have better definitions than those in the 6K deck.

>>140924728
Fuck off sakura autist, we all know it's you.

>>140924677
>Fuck off shitposter.
>Stop posting old images from conversations had by other people ages ago.
What? I just want to fix my deck, man. Do you know any CSS?

>>140924760
>>140924744
>>140924728
>>140924718
>>140924677
How can you people not realize it's all shitposting? These threads are fucking out of control, it's a shitposting vortex.

>>140924811
>CSS
>>>/v/

>>140924828
>implying I'm not doing the shitposting

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

Time spent shitposting is time spent not studying. If you're about to engage in a silly argument or off-topic discussion, close the thread instead. Use your time productively!

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

>>140924882
shitposting is how I consolidate new memories though

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>He's learning japanese by reading business articles

自閉症くさい話やめとけば何も残らないらしいね

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWK2Iuxcp8o

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>>140924677
I can't even be bothered to quote the other posts. How can you people have such a shitstorm over the accuracy of a fucking frequency list?

>>140925115
hes just mad that someone has an opinion

>>140925115
safe easy topics anyone can talk about that cant be proven one way or the other are pretty prime convo material in djt

>>140925162
it's called bikeshedding btw

>>140925192
bikeshedding pantshitting same shit different bike

Where were you when wareya started posting his personality collection?
>>140879011

>>140925236
who?

>>140925236
i actually only have pictures from him desu the rest of it is just a joke
i can't believe nobody noticed it was me when i posted the screenshot of my own folder

>>140925338
personally i dont even click most of the pics posted in djt

i barely even read the posts especially if they are more than a few lines long

>>140925236
who?

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って、何故だああああああああぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁ！！！！

The people on this trip left society to escape their problems. Yet they still have problems such as bullying, mistrust and isolation.

The point is that we ourselves make our problems. It isn't society's fault, it's ours.

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>>140925970
Wrong thread.

>>140925970
all the problems with society disappear if there is no other person besides yourself

even if one person exists other than you it all falls apart

Is there something like a 4chan/reddit or something in Japanese that isn't 2ch? I just wanna read interesting stuff

>>140926032
why would you ask for something like that then add interesting in the same sentence

Let's study the face of argumentative autism, everybody.

>>140924375
>insinuate
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/140867700/#140876947
>straight forward question
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/129571256/#129591733]
>underpins his rhetoric
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/129266231/#129278503
>the following statement
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/138077516/#138094796

>>140926085
遠慮しておこう

とっとと消えろ

>>140926085
the absolute madman does it again

>>140926085
it's been a while
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/139016138/#139022368

>>140926032
newsokur on reddit
Despite being reddit, it's all Japanese people. The downside is it has fairly low traffic, but worst case you just get links to a few choice news articles.

>>140926507
bakanewsjp has more traffic but there's less point reading the text since it's all retarded roleplaying-tier memes

>>140926085
I wish I could get stalked despite being anonymous

わしのことずっと見られてると思うと
気分が高ぶってしまってたまらないのじゃ

>>140926576
You're too easy to stalk so there's no point.

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>>140917246
王の力はお前を孤独にする

少しだけ違ったね。おにいちゃん

>>140926621
>Just do whatever!
Words to live by. Thanks.

>>140926602
それがそうだとしたら
あだなくらい与えてくれてもいいんじゃないかな
わしはどんな罵倒でも喜んで浴びるつもりでいるのだが
無視だけは堪えられないの

>>140926777
I'm a sadist and all that but I take my pleasures from a kind of cruel outwards entertainment, not the torture itself, and it's no fun to abuse people that want it.

>5 years later no one on /djt/ hasnt finished Japanese yet
well at least you guys have fun lol

>>140926867
まあ気にしなくていいよ
どうせこのまま続けたら放置プレイの魅力にも目覚めそうだしね

>>140926964
>finished Japanese

>>140926964
How does one finish a language anyway?

>>140928241
Joke's on you, I didn't /actually/ go to bed.

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It turns out my past failed attempts at learning this language weren't for nothing. I decided to go through Core again figuring I would've forgotten everything, but I'm blazing through it at 100 cards a day with little trouble so far.

Hopefully things keep going this smoothly until I reach 2K again.

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にほんごで言えないえいご

>uvula

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>>140918688
I think I need to pick some harder material.

>>140928516
>meme

>>140928422

>smoothly

Does it matter? Just do it everyday until its finished.

>>140928791
It's nice when things are easy.

>>140928809

If you're doing it right, language learning ain't easy.

>>140928837
I'm not so much "language learning" as I am "memory refreshing" for now.

Well, I'm going through the DoJG deck too so I suppose I am doing some learning.

The DoJG deck is depressing at times.
どうせ:
>受けても、どうせ、駄目だから、文部省の留学生試験を受けないことにしました。

>どうせこんな沢山の宿題、出来るわけがないから、遊ぶことにしたよ。

>人間はどうせ死ぬんだから、あくせく働いても仕方がない。

>どうせ捨てられるのに、どうして彼の後を追うの?

>どうせあの女性とは結婚出来ないよ。早くあきらめた方がいいよ。

>Ａ：君はこんなことが分からないのかい? Ｂ：どうせ私は馬鹿ですよ。

Fucking cheers.

>>140929012
Some more motivational gems
どころか:
>ジムは日本語の会話が出来ないどころか、簡単なあいさつも出来ない。

>スミスさんは日本語の新聞が読めるどころか、平仮名も知らない。

>ジョンソンさんは漢字が書けないどころか、平仮名も書けない。

>あの人は本を読むどころか、新間も読まない。

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>>140929063
>出来な
Stopped reading.

>>140929287
Seiichi Makino and Michio Tsutsui had a downright hate boner for Jim, Smith and Johnson, throughout all three books. I'd hate to be the poor bastard with one of those names using these to help with their Japanese. You'd constantly feel like shit.

>>140913745
>tfw just learned my first kanji

the first out of 4489348437847

>>140925115
>RTK and Pimslut missing

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I know I'm still at beginner level.

But holy fuck, I'm excited because I managed to actually read and understand this page. It took me a long time to sound everything out, but Anki and Tae Kim are seriously paying off.

I feel as though I've finally taken my first real step instead of just learning how to stand.

>>140929403
What's with the rape hands in panel 2

>>140929455
Blondie is essentially a pet gerbil that enjoys cuddling with people.

Beyond that, I don't actually understand why she's doing it. I don't think it's actually part of the joke unless there's something I've seriously missed besides word play involving the weather.

>>140929403
Anon, I'm sorry but I don't even have 1/4 of Tae Kim and I could understand that. Not to rain on your parade though, I'm happy for you.

>>140929519
Why are you here?

>>140929519
>but I don't even have 1/4 of Tae Kim
Well of course, 1/4 of the way is chapter 3. Which alone is enough to give you basic sentence structure.

I'm still on lesson 3.8.

>>140929510
Panel TWO.
>>140929455
>>140929403
It's just Jun holding his hand mid-motion. You can see him about to friend-grope in the first panel.

>>140929403
Beep beep, professional translating skills coming through
>なんか夏に入ってから・・・ジュンがおかしい気がする
Ever since somthing entered summer, Jun does a crazy feeling
>暑いからじゃない
It isn't because it's hot

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>>140929519
Nice but can you read this?

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>>140929601
You should get HS to hire you

>>140929510
Probly just embarassed when he sees the sekushii sumemr uniforms or some shit but i dunno you're the one reading it そのくらい自力でやれ

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>>140929611
序盤であきらめちゃったの？

よむのになんじかんもかからないのに

>>140929455
>>140929596
>>140929654
Oh shit, I thought you were referring to the fact that it looks like tomo is reaching down her skirt.

It totally didn't register with me what panel was being referred to. Fuck I'm dumb...

>>140929671
なによ

ヨーロッパの子達（←それぞれ共通言語なし） is this saying they have a common language or they dont?

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>>140929063
逆に:
>一生懸命仕事をしたのに、逆に仲間に嫌われてしまった。
>ガールフレンドを喜ばせようとしたのに、逆に怒らせてしまった。

>>140929540
I like to read people's questions and possibly their answers, if there are any. When someone posts anything in Japanese I like to try reading, which usually fails, but I try to identify some known kanji either way. Same thing when someone posts a manga page or something. I just so happened to understand that one completely, which is surprising given how little knowledge I have.

>>140929611
No. I'll still look at it and try to identify as many words/kanji as possible though.

>>140929601
>I think Jun's been acting weird ever since the summer heat started.
>It's not the heat.
You sound like an engrish t-shirt

>>140929715
The order is

3 1
4 2

>>140929601
>Jun does a crazy feeling
Rub a dub dub, king me!

>>140929748
Why would it be anything else?

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>>140929736
did somebody say tshirt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76aRKpH3K_I

>>140929791
How do you expect a beginner 3 chapters into TK to know that

>>140929837
It's common sense that it would be read like that.

>>140929873
Shut the fuck up argumentative autist, take your meds and go to bed already

>>140929828
That sounds fucking horrible.
What's wrong with you?

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>>140929791
>rub a dub dub, king me

youre killing me over here

>>140929887
Fuck off back to facebook you goddamn clown. This is /a/, if you aren't familiar with how Japanese writing is structured, you need to either lurk or fucking kill yourself. Literally the only people who would have trouble with that are people who aren't from /a/.

>>140929945
OK I'll screenshott your post and post it on my facebook to my otaku friends

>>140929904
>>140929887
>>140929945
whoa take it easy with the bad vibes

>>140929968
Lurk more newfriend.

>>140929945
The japanese writing can be arranged normally but the 4 pages could still be arranged strangely by whoever put the image together

>>140930050
32 and 33 is very misleading

最近毎日かわいい女性とスカイプで話してたんだ。普通に４時間くらいかかる。俺は話すことに興味なんてないんのに、、、
まぁ、いいじゃん。上手になろうー。でも発音まだ難しいや。でもかわいい女性と話せてよかったな(笑)

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おにいちゃん

どうやったらふとれるの？

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>>140929712
以外
>私には酒を飲む以外に何も楽しみがない。
I wonder if the editors were depressed when putting the final manuscript for the Intermediate volume together. It is full of various light hearted examples, neutral examples, then you get these sort of examples scattered throughout.

>>140930050
That's a pretty big bow to draw, anon, considering the page numbers and all. You'd have to make some strange conclusion that it was read from bottom to top or something else bizarre.

>>140930107
Yeah exactly. I think >>140929945 is just legit autistic

>>140930136
毎日３３００カロリー以上の食料を身体に飲み込み、ビッグになれ

>>140930123
ハメハメがんばれ

>>140930136
ちんこ食

>>140930123
Bullshit nobody has the time to just talk for 4 hours to random people online unless they are NEETs, and if they are NEETs they aren't cute

>>140930229
youre right nobody just chills out on the weekend chattin online cause theyre bored

>>140930169
>point out something painfully obvious
>get a comment on it
>starts spiralling into defensive mode
The anon who posted >>140929748 was asking for that sort of response. What else do you expect when pointing out the bleeding obvious, if not to be mocked for it? Get a grip and learn to roll with the punches. Are you the sort of person who acts all offended when someone calls something you said stupid in real life? I get the feeling a lot of people in these threads lead extremely sheltered existences when they start sperging out and calling people autists for the sort of mocking that everyone gets online.

You might need a reality check, dude.

>>140930306
Why is it always the biggest spergs who first start accusing people of "sperging out"
Literally no self awareness

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>>140930218
なんぼんしいたけ食べたらいいの？

>1個 15g
>分量 100 g あたり
>カロリー (kcal) 17

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>>140930306

>>140930229
I just do it from about 10pm to 1 or 2am, depending on when I have uni classes.

>>140930385
ヘルプメ

>>140930258
I mean most people have friends in real life who they chat with instead of online people they haven't met that's all i'm saying dude

>>140930355
Yes anon, anyone who is capable of posting more than a twitter post worth of text that is comprehensible is autistic. I know you must feel a little embarrassed for getting called out but for fuck sake, at least pretend like you are an adult. Self awareness my ass.

>>140930385
Use your words, you insecure faggot.

>>140930364
ハンバーガー食えばいつの間にか限定熱量を超えるだろうしさ

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>>140930306
You are so fucking easy to read my man

You're just trying to bait me to say "I didn't know that it was supposed to be read in that order when I was a beginner so I was trying to help someone out" so you could go "Well you're just retarded any idiot could tell right away that that's how you read it" and gain that modicule of satisfaction and use it to lube up your itty bitty teeny weeny peener and fap it up. Too bad I saw through your shitty plan, dumbass!

>>140930463
assumptions are a easy pitfall my man

>>140930467
come on someone at your level has no hope of drawing me into your losers ring

>>140930463
where do you think you are?

>>140930467
> I know you must feel a little embarrassed for getting called out
I'm not who you think I am you sperg

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>>140930475
おいしくないものはたべられないよ

>>140930671
邪道のこと言わないでください

>>140930575
If you read the previous post I wasn't saying that anon wouldn't have the time I was saying that cute girls wouldn't have the time.

>>140929748
>>140929715 here, thanks.

>>140930701
im a cute girl no i wont show you what i look like loser

i dont really mean loser im just saying it cause i think it fits the motif of the post

>>140930701
>implying anon isn't a cute girl

>>140930701
cute girls are too busy selfie on facebook anyway
unless they are cute "girls" lol

>>140930671
ハンバーガーは美味しいけど？
牛肉だよ？
牛肉がだめならそりゃ洋食の半分くらいがまずいってことになってるんだよ

>>140930746
np just ignore the child

>>140930701
>>140930765
Perhaps he has a harem

>>140930769
ちんこバーガー食べてみて

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>>140930769
きゅうりトマトのサンドイッチじゃだめ？

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Guys, a hand please.

Can't find what's this anywhere.

>>140931106
Just draw it in google translate

>>140931106
輩。Like from 先輩。

>>140930904
野菜は食欲満たされる割にはカロリーほとんどないからあんま役に立たない
脂肪はグラム一つ分のカロリーがタンパクと炭水化物の二倍だから
脂肪が沢山はいってるものを食べてね

>>140931171
どのくらいちんこが食べますか

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>>140931171
ごまあえならごまを多めにすればいいのね

>>140930701
We are good friends though anon. We usually just talked in line though. Also she's really into me desu

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RIKAI SAMA WILL NOT ACTIVATE ANYMORE I AM HELPLESS

>>140932220
Never update Firefox.

>>140932187
nice dude let us know when youre all 玉 deep squirtin your 僕 juice all up in her あたし hole ブロ

>>140932220
idk what that means but it cant be so bad that you need to use all caps just relax man

>>140932262
Motherfucker updated itself. Even twitter broke, it says my browser doesn't support videos. Fuck Mozilla.

>>140932288
Disable that crap in the settings.

>>140932345
Done, but I guess I can't revert anymore. Fuck me.

how bad is it to set your daily reviews to 100

>>140932478
Very bad. Especially if you're doing a lot of new cards.

>>140932478
Unless you do 5 cards a day it's "kills all the purpose of anki" bad.

How long did you guys need to finish core2k? And what kind of stuff were you reading 3-6 months in?

>>140932508
>>140932520
fuck

guess i'll just do the 100+20 now and finish the reviews when i wake up

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Does anyone mind helping me with the translation on this?
From the parts I gathered up, it says
>本当は疲れてるんだろう
I really am tired you know
>待ち続けるのも夢でごまかす事も。。。
deceiving your dreams and continuing to wait

>>140932508
>>140932478
>>140932520
I don't understand, is 100 too much or too little?

>>140932788
gay

>>140932824
You're not supposed to limit your reviews (put it on 9999).

>>140932856
Oh I didn't know that, is there something else that I should know/do? I'm just doing core 2k/6k in it's default state

>>140932908
No that's all

>>140932908
You should probably read the guide.

>>140932788
not "i" am really tired

i mean i am very tired so hes right but hes not talking about himself

what does deceiving your dreams even mean in english dude

>>140932788
>本当は疲れてるんだろう
You're actually tired, aren't you?

>待ち続けるのも夢でごまかす事も。。。
(Tired of) waiting or (getting) deceived in your dreams (?)

>>140933047
You know... like dreaming about being a male model but then you can't but help yourself to a donut

>>140932723
100 days
Flyable Heart, Fureraba

>>140933164
i dont really buy into that one dude ごめん

anyway 待ち続けるのも夢でごまかす事も is pretty much just simply continuing to keep waiting and dreaming (dreaming in the sense of deluding yourself)

How does one unhide posts without a stub?

>>140933441
One checks the settings

>>140933384
ohhh yeah, for some reason I didn't apply ごまかす to the first verb, and that threw me off

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>>140933441
>>140933547
いいミームだぜ

Is there a way, in custom study of course, to make anki show me ALL vocabs I've learned so far once?

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ごがつだよ

ごがつもいいきせつだよ

>>140934068
５月自体が季節ですか？

俺は日本語でエロゲーが全然読めない

>>140934940
フラッシュカードやれば何でもできるはずさ

>>140935035
全然使わない
げんきの終わった時、フラッシュカードを使おうと思います

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>>140934328
五月はハツガツヲの季節だよ

彼女がいない人はどこですか
手を上げってください

このスレの全員は日本語書けないみたいんだ。なんでだろう。この俺は/r/LearnJapaneseから来たんだ。やっぱ/djt/より優勝だな。さよなら

>>140935209
自殺してください～

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>>140935108
助けて！マグロマン！

>>140935125
ボクじゃねえ

>>140935209
そっか

お大事に

>>140935261
マグロマン食べたい

>>140935318
マグロマン食べるなあああああ

明日ははやく起きて、髪の毛に切に行くつもりです

>>140935386
切りに*

>>140935386
恥骨髪の毛

何読もうかなと思っててなんも知ってないから日本の文化を学んで読んでいいじゃんって思ってるね

なんのサイトとかあるんだろう。おすすめは？

>>140935480
馬鹿かなと思ってたからその質問に答えられない

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wew

>>140935386
>髪の毛に切に行くつもりです

髪の毛を切るってことだよ。「に」じゃなくて

あとは
>切りに行く
passive form使っていいでしょ？切るって使うと、お前が切ってるってことね
passive formだったら切るじゃなくて切れるだろう
お前は髪の毛が切れる

わからん。俺はただ初心者で正しいかわからんからな

>>140935704
Go away tryhard.

>>140935612
おい
しつれいな

>>140935727
ね
日本語で書いたら？
なんだって？できない？
はっはっはっはっはっ

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>>140935704
おんなことばなら
>美容院に行く

だよ。おとこことばなら
>散髪に行く

だよ。がんばっておにいちゃん

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>>140924394
It's not that hard.

>>140935843
あ、具体的な言葉があったと思ったけど思い出せなかった

>have breakfast while watching anime and reading DJT
>16 words mined 5 minutes in
Looks like I can expect another few hundred words mined today.

>>140935767
何がおかしい？ここは日本語の勉強をするためのスレッドなんだよ。自分がどれだけ上手いのかを披露するためじゃない。この糞ナルシストが。

>>140935977
ナルシストじゃないんだよ。ただニートだ。あとはシットポストしかできないよ。許してくれ

それじゃあみんなおつかれ

明日も遊びに来るよ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWK2Iuxcp8o

>>140935730
ごめんなんか言っちゃった

>>140935977
自己暗示か

はいじゃあねええええ

お相子
What does it mean?

>>140936464
boku no pico

>>140936521
Please.

>>140936464
http://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/おあいこ
So here's what I found so I understand it as an "eye for an eye, 50\50" but I still need your expert opinion.

I'm seriously thinking of cutting down on Anki. Help me /djt/
I've been studying Japanese for years, I have a vocabulary around maybe 6000-8000. I feel like anki is too dull and words often fail over and over, especially ones with multiple meanings, I push again and again. I already cap it at 500 a day.

I wonder if anki is really the best method for me. I watched that dudes video that learned a bunch of languages and he says he just does what was fun. I'm just worried I won't actually study if I give up anki.
Fuck guys, what do. Anki is becoming harder each day. Has anyone had genuine success with any other methods?

>>140937181
The fuck? At that point you just read material dude.

>>140937181
>for years
>6000-8000
Just give up now.

>>140937181
Just stop adding new cards. Within a month you should only spend half an hour max on reviews

>>140937268
I know people have done it faster, I mostly did Anki although I didn't do it every day cause I gave up for like a whole year. I really don't know what's best for me anymore. Right now I'm doing 22 new words a day plus around 10 phrases or idioms but with a cap on the reviews.

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>>140937181
>for years
assuming three years and 8000 words that means you have been doing 2666 words a year. 7 words a day

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>>140937360
>added core6k more than 45 months ago
>started studying two years ago
At least I got my shit together now.

>>140937473
Actually seems to be the age of the core6k deck I have, nevermind.

what's that firefox extension called that gives you kanji readings when you hover over them

>>140937671
google translator add-on

>>140937671
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what%27s+that+firefox+extension+called+that+gives+you+kanji+readings+when+you+hover+over+them

>あの感じいつ皆は日本語でしゃべって初心者にいるので参加できない

how long does it take you guys to go through 30 words?

>>140939428
Reps + 30 new words take me about 30-45 minutes

>>140939428
For the first time? I'd say about 4-10 minutes, split over the intervals.

>>140939497
and you feel like you understand the new vocab after?

>>140939428
Depends on the kanji. If it consists of kanji I've seen before I remember them quite easily, or at least have an easy time coming up with a mnemonic. If it's new kanji it depends on how, well, boring the word is. Some of core's economy related words are a pain in the ass.

I guess 30 new words takes me like 20 minutes since I usually look up each compound on Jisho to learn the kanji themselves as well.

I did 500 flashcards today

>>140940085
Congratulations

>>140940085
おめでとう

>>140940120
I think I know Japanese now flashcards are great