can anybody in the anime actually beat this guy?

Netero did.

Aside from netero outplaying him with the nuke. Adult Gon has a chance.

>>140853965
A third world nuke did

Chimera Ants were dead on arrival

Broken Gon could. One of the 12 zodiacs could. Maybe Hisoka or Chrollo. There are plenty of powerful characters.

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>>140854136
>Maybe Hisoka

>>140853965
No, he beat netero without using nen.

Ging would probably befriend him like Komugi.

>>140853965
Leorio would've easily taken him out if he was there.

They could throw him into that suit guy's pocket universe and let him starve to death, could maybe do the same with the fun fun cloth or whatever it's called. You would need someone very powerful with a very specific counter to beat him.

>>140853965
This guy is the point where HxH went from an excellent anime to post-Frieza tier DBZ retardation. Even the author decided to stop writing the series after because he realized he wrote a good world he built into the trash

What if Netero just conjured the statue with smaller fingers and just repeatedly poked him in the eyes?

>>140854705
(You)

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>>140853965

Knov.

Gon-san probably couldn't though, contrary to popular belief.

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>>140854136
>Maybe Chrollo

>>140854798
The atmosphere was there for the arc but the villains and their powerlevels and especially the pacing were all over the pace. The ants might have been cool and edgy villains into your liking but they just don't make sense or follow the rules the series followed earlier on. The arc even introduced powerlevels for fuck's sake

>>140853965
Zeno. Maybe Illumi

>>140854798
>replying to a retard
You know better.

>>140853965
Vanilla Ice maybe.

>>140854136
Only Adult Gon really seems like he stood a chance.
>>140854118
It was only that effective because they were far from a population zone. If he was in the middle of dark city, it would have been harder to use.

>>140854970
>ants
>villains

>>140855260
Antagonists, my bad

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>>140854944

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>>140853965

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FEI GOD.

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I beat the Great Leader every time.

>>140853965
Probably no one in that anime, but that dumb fuck couldn't even touch Uchiha Madara, let alone beat him.

>literal cell ripoff

>>140853965
>>140853965
Since he wasn't immune to radiation like all organic beings, this means he is also susceptible to Viruses, Bacteria, and Fungi as well as Toxins.

This means Chemical and Biological Warfare would have been options as well and it just so happens one of the Hunters Zodiac members was a Virus Hunter.

>>140854136
>hisoka
My fucking sides
Muh bubble gum hahaha
The guy can't even endure a razor smash

>>140853965
Goreinu

>>140853965
Can Meruem break CHAIN JEILU?

>>140855703
Not quite sure I follow you. What Uchiha Madara are we talking about here.

>>140854850
Tenbu Horin.

>>140854970
>The arc even introduced powerlevels for fuck's sake
You completely missed the point if you think powerlevels were anything but completely trashed during the arc. The main villains got killed by a cheap fucking BOMB of all things. Not even the explosion itself, but poisoning just from being near it.

Only the biggest shounenbabbies give a shit about powerlevels in HxH anyway, they've never been relevant and characters explicitly say so. The powerlevels have been reset with Gon's loss of nen and Meruem/the RG's death, and the same characters have been top tier since the very beginning with absolutely no change (Hisoka, Illumi, the troupe, hunters with stars, etc).

>>140854111
>>140854136
according to pitou, gon-san is on par with the king

however at that time, pitou doesn't know anything about his youpi + pouf power-up

>>140855530
why did killua pretend to be a little girl then pretend to die of radiation poisoning next to cell?

Reminder that it took Gon multiple punches to implode Pitou's head. Faggot can't do shit to Mereum's armor.

>>140856600
I think that was just an overkill.

>>140856440
She only said that "his fangs could reach the king", that's hardly implying they're on the same level.

>>140856440
Pitou said that his fangs might be able to reach the king, not that he's on par with the king.

>>140856666
No, nuking someone with a poisoned bomb is overkill. The fact that it took him awhile to decapitate an almost dead catbug makes him a scrub relative to Netero.

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> people who dislike how meruem died in kumogis arms

troglodytes

>>140856514
Are you retarded?

>>140856841
are you?

>>140856797
>>140856792
she said that to normal gon, not gon-san

she quite literally says "his power is now equal to that of the king" while they walk out of the villa

>>140856902
that's not true but if it was, Meruem becomes even stronger after that so fuck off

>>140856837
He deserved to suffer more. At least he died cold and scared while knowing he killed his waifu.

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>>140855079
>It was only that effective because they were far from a population zone. If he was in the middle of dark city, it would have been harder to use.
I think you might be underestimating humanity's potential for "evolution".

Make no mistake, they would have used the bomb on the capital of North Korea while half the population of the country was there if they had to.

>>140857231
He was peaceful and happy when he died. You could even say it was a lover's suicide.

>>140856902
You're thinking of the tiger scene, where Pitou was just worrying. But later she confirms that suspicion, first page of 306. She never said anything about anyone being equal, you're making that up (or maybe the anime said it, either way it's not from the manga).

>>140857291
He was literally cold and terrified of death. You could even say he killed Kogumi for no good reason.

>>140857329
When is a lovers' suicide, or any suicide for that matter, not inherently selfish?

>>140857424
When there is pressure is to commit a lover's suicide or if it's the only solution to a problem. There was literally, literally no reason to kill Kogumi, it's just suicide.

>>140857329
No he wasn't. And you don't even know Komugi's name.

>>140857517
He literally, literally, literally was. I don't give a shit about Kogumi I'm glad she died and Meruem knew he did her in just because he was too scared to die alone, blind and cold.

>>140855902
radiation poisoning isnt like a virus or bacteria, it's literal destruction of cell tissue at the atomic level
it directly destroys dna and rips you apart, virus and bacteria just feed on you and tries to live inside of you

>>140857561
>edgy
>ESL
>attention disorder
k

>>140853965
No, one of the points of introducing a character like Meruem is that no single person can beat him 1on1. It is also why he lost, because Meruem wasn't fighting against Netero, he was fighting against humanity. "You understand nothing, I'm not alone"

>>140857685
>thinking wanting revenge is edgy
>literally speaks better English than you ever will
>prove I have an attention disorder
Kill yourself.

>>140856283
The way I see it is that the author wrote himself into a corner with that arc and needed to introduce bad plot devices to salvage it

>>140854709
He would switch his primary sensor organ from eyes to air vibration via skin.

>>140854970
>HXH ant arc
>Power levels for shit
lel
Ant Arc was literally a old man wanting to die, so he allowed the ants to evolve to their peak, to test himself.

No one was on his level in terms of combat capability, especially after the pouf youpi fusion.
Without any nen powers he dominated Netero, the strongest Nen user in 1 on 1 combat.
the only reason he died is cause of nuclear bomb radiation.

>>140857945
He did use ten for defense. Without it his skeleton would've broke.

>>140857945
>Netero, the strongest Nen user in 1 on 1 combat.
If you think that, you did not pay attention at all, for the last 300 chapters.

>>140857806
He would have to be a literal genius to 'write himself out' of a situation with something more impactful and meaningful than nearly any concusion to a battle shounen arc ever. Nobody can pull thematic depth like that out of their ass without planning for it, just because you wanted to see it end in a fight doesn't mean he planned it that way.

>>140858034
So who is the strongest Nen user according to the last 300 chapters?

>>140858342
Kulolo

>>140858342
Netero

>>140858034
He was though. Neterou himself said he was no longer the strongest but that may well have been humility on his part.

Pariston, Ging, Beyond and a few others might be "stronger" than he is in their own unique kind of ways. The latter two are without a doubt the better adventurers.

But in a straight up brawl, Neterou senior is as strong as humanly possible in the HxH-verse.

>>140858384
How many names will you fags invent for Chrollo?

>>140858342
Some asshole who do not care.
Several specialists who would be able to bypass Meruems TEN.

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>>140853965
HAHAHA KING IS ALREADY susaned.

>>140858342
Don Freecss the dude who is exploring dark continent memes and coming back to write a guide book i mean if you can go there and out multiple times for so much time that means hes fucking strongk

>>140858455
>Some asshole who do not care.
Knowing Togashi that's probably true. I'm still mad that some no name demon beat everyone and won the tournament in yuyu.

>>140855530

>design a boy
>call it a girl

Why was this allowed

>>140856071

I'm depressed at myself for chuckling at this.

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>>140858672
What?

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>>140858672
>>140858672
> Design a girl
> Call it a boy

>>140858411
Neterou is running the Hunter organization in a age of decline. And since he is too selfish, he can't figure out how to boost recruitment.
But as Neterou knows, recruitment is irrelevant. Once a expert is worth 20.000 novices, the novice in itself is not worth shit.

The election arc afterwards shows this perfectly: They had to suspend Hunter Licenses to get parts of the organization to even show up. Simply because nobody actually cared.
Neterou himself only ended up in his position by accident as well.

>>140854136
Hisoka is weak as fuck. Which is sad because he was such a cool character and the way Togashi made him use his powers intelligently was great, instead of who can punch harder.

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>>140858759
I want Kalluto to suck my dick.

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>>140858672
Do we want to talk about this? Because all the designs pre Tsunade is essentially that to some degree. And its why the series has attractive females, to some degree.

How strong is Jairo?

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>>140857783
>is called edgy
>tells the person to kill themselves
And I'm a completely different anon saying this. Not to mention ESL-kun, you are using "literally" in far too many of your posts. Are you posting all that Madarashit too?

>>140858823
Hisoka should be long dead by now with his overconfidence and weak abilities, the only reason he wins battles is because he's a wizard.

Did HxH ever get better after this arc?

I got halfway through it in the manga and got sick of reading full stop - the art quality went to shit, the plot got really, really tiresome and there was a load of powerlevel shit I just didn't care about.

Is it worth me picking up again?

>>140858928
I'm not even literally ESL, samefag-kun. Just end your life already.

>>140858957
This is shaping up to be the best arc of them all.

>>140859025

How many arcs have passed since the stupid ant one? Have I got a lot to catch up on? Does it get worse before it gets better?

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>>140858672
I'll kill you. Mugis are always the best.

>>140859065
Just read it, get it over with.

>>140858560
Surviving on the DC requires a different kind of strenght than the battle strenght displayed by Neterou and Meruem. Any of the five calamities could bypass their strenght and kill them in a moment. Don Freecss doesn't need to be stronger than Neterou. Just more fit to survive in a inhospitable place like the Dark Continent.

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>>140858672

She's clearly female.

>>140859173
>Neterou
Who might that be?

>>140858976
>I'm not even literally ESL
That's very unfortunate for you anon-kun. Keep on being kawaii.

>>140858823
>character is not cool if he's not the most powerful

Fucking shounenfags I swear.

Mumen rider was bad too since he's a scrub?

>>140859198
Post page 201.

>>140858976
edgy ESL

>>140858875
Zepile tier. He was a normal human before turning into an ant and he left before he could have his aura released.

>>140858957

You read the wrong manga anon, what you read was called "naruto" this is "hunter x hunter".

>>140858930
I think you mean Magician!

>>140859246
Yeah because he's a delusional suicidal dumbass.

>>140859246
He's not relevant anymore because he's not powerful and it sucks.

>>140854251
What if he was up against 20 good men?

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>>140859257

I guess you can't post one without the another.

>>140859261
DON'T YOU FUCKING CALL ME EDGY ESL YOU PIECE OF FUCKING TRASH

>>140859331
ahhhhhhhhh gon
thank you anon.

>>140859308
>>140859297

That's even dumber.

>>140859331
>gon's fist separates pitou and komugi
Beautiful

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>>140859402
>it's dumb that I'm upset a character isn't relevant anymore because of powercreep and the author getting shittier

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>>140856036
But Kurapika would die.

>>140859470
Don't worry about Kurapika. Can Meruem escape CHAIN JEILU with physical strength alone?

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>>140859331
Damn, what happened to you...

>>140859430

Never noticed that, marvelous pottery Togashi.

>>140859468
Hot damn, tripfags and animefags make for the most retarded cancer ever.

>>140859550
It depends on Kurapika conditions. I think it's possible

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>>140859585
Great argument

>>140859550
I'm sure he could, it's not unbreakable. Kurapika wasn't sure if it'd hold Ubo.

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>>140859468

Hisoka chrollo is happening? Are you retarded.

also
>muh hisoka might not be relevant in future thus whole manga is bad

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>>140858672

>Design a girl
>Call it a boy
>Even dub get confused and act like he's a girl

>>140859331
I just wanted to see Pitou burst into treats after all this bullying.

>>140859468
what a retard

>>140859550
A physical object is only as strong as its designed. Which is another important point: A summoned sword is never really stronger than its RL technical counter part. You might be able to add some layer of bullshit, but it has to work on a physical level.

HXH really wants to drive home that absolute conditions isn't absolute for shit.

>>140859670
Pitou is not a pinata.

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>>140859652

99 Feitan made me confused as a teen.

>>140859430
>>140859567
Go away with your /tv/ memes.

>>140859468
>the author getting shittier
Why don't you just kill yourself bear, we all know you haven't read it.

>>140859335
>uses "fucking" all the time
You must be a spic.

>>140859723
Then why did her head explode.

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>>140859727

>>140859727
I don't get why you're quoting me.

>>140859755
I AM NOT A FUCKING SPIC
ENG YOUR LIFE YOU FCKING TERRORIST

>>140859550
Pika can't reach Meruem with chain jail, he's too fast

Horrendous thread. Bravo.

>>140859824
>slower than an old man's clap
Can Meruem do anything right?

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Shinji could beat Mereum.

>>140859638
>>140859638
>>muh hisoka might not be relevant in future thus whole manga is bad
Great strawman. I'm saying that since togashi made one of the few characters that had an interesting ability that didn't just depend on punching the enemy harder irrelevant is why it's getting worse. It's not bad, but worse than it was at the beginning.

>>140859730
The anime is literally caught up with the manga save a small handful of chapters, and the anime isn't that much different from the manga. Not enough to dismiss what I'm saying anyway.

>>140859855

You're part of the problem.

>>140859916
You're part of the problem.

>>140859550
Uvogin is just one man while meruem is the collective strength of tens of thousands.

>>140859976
Uvogin is a ripped motherfucker and Meruem is just a little ant.

>>140859914
>animefags

>>140859914
Bear I can easily dismiss anything you say, your very existence is a meme.

I thought it was strange that Gon got so angry because of Kite's death but that was before I knew everything about HxH

After watching the old and new anime, I still think Gon getting so angry and everything that happens after is weird. I know what Kite has done for him but I would at least understand it if it was Killua who died. Is it because of his shame that he went an hero?

>>140859939

You're literally not helping, thus you are part of the problem.

>>140859562
>that gon crying scene
no other anime hit me as hard

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>>140860028
>>140859690
High quality arguments friendos.

>>140860037

So if Meruem didn't offer to go to the wasteland, would Netero activate the bomb in the palace with everyone there?

>>140860046
Baited this exact response.

>>140859914

You should start posting in reddit instead of shitting these threads.

>>140860065

Again part of the problem, are you not ashamed shitposter-kun?

>>140860064
No he would say he knows his name but would only tell him if he followed him to the wasteland.

>>140860126
I know what I am.

Why did 2011 made it so that Kite is a complete stranger to Gon? It took Gon a whole episode to remember him. Out of everything that can be cut it's so strange that they would remove something so important

Meruem was totally over powered. We know the rules of nen are decades of training for power or vows and restrictions as a shortcut to power. He didn't have to do either, all he had to do was eat people.

I don't think anyone could beat him without a nuke.

>>140860039
Gon felt extremely guilty for playing a role in Kite's death.
It makes more sense in the manga by the way. Kite saved his life and gave him motivation to become a hunter. He's more like a constant presence and Gon even talks about wanting to meet him again a few times and showed Killua where he met Kite.

>>140860196

You don't even read HxH you retard.

>>140860196
Bear you are genuinely a newfag, please never ever comment on the state of /a/.

Stop responding to the tripfag and just report.

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>>140860247
I've been here longer than 70% of /a/ and have seen more than 80%

>>140859787
out of loneliness perhaps

>>140856837
meruem wasn't a good person and deserved no kind of sympathy

feeling sorry for him in any way shows how childish you are

>>140860486
Anon I...

>>140860175
possibly for production conveniences. With a reboot, I can't imagine them re-treading exactly the same plot points i.e. FMA/FMA:B

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>>140860039
Gon blames himself because he's powerless. He didn't have the required strength and experience to fight the royal guards, which forced them to flee for their lives when Pitou attacked. Gon thinks that his own actions led to Kite being killed.

>>140860493
you don't think Meruem's character arc was worthy of some sympathy? It's not as if the Meruem we were introduced to was the same as the one dying in Komugi's arms

>>140860615
Silly Gon. If he had listened to Kite and left sooner, Kite would have had both arms and might have been able to win or escape.

>>140860795
Don't bully

Honestly Naruto threads are a lot more pleasant than this shithole.

Did the hiatuses turn this into one of the shittiest shonens to make a thread about?

Is Ging adult Yusuke?

>>140860668
>meruem
>character arc
Good one. Meruem is one of the most emotionless expressionless characters in the entire series, whatever character development he went through is diminished by the fact that Meruem looked like he couldn't give a shit about anything.

>>140860909
Don't worry it'll get better once I stop posting.

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>>140858823
>>140858930
>Hisoka is weak as fuck
>HISOKA
>WEAK
Aside from the fact that his physical stats and basic Nen mastery are clearly top tier, his combat intelligence and power versatility is one of the greatest in the series. Hisoka is retardedly strong.

>>140860984
Nope, but I'd like him to be an emitter and shoot reiguns and kamehameha waves. Someone has to.

>>140860175
Because 2011 is inferior to 1999.

>>140858852
I want to suck Kalluto's dick.

>>140861626
>falseflagging

>>140853965
No, stop asking this question.
Netero did not truly win.
Broken/Adult Gon was only speculated to be on par with him according to Pitou, who as unaware of his Puof and Youpi power acquisition.
Nobody else has nearly enough power (revealed) to be put on his level.

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>>140861752
>telling the truth
>falseflagging
Ok.

So spoilers soon, right?

>>140861811
In about 5 days.

>>140861787
>Netero did not truly win
It's true that he didn't, but it showed that humanity was superior Meruem.

>>140861811
On Thursday

predict who will die in the dark continent arc

>>140861852
Superior how? Meruem was taking everything Netero has like nothing. Netero had to resort in killing himself to release the bomb in order to even have q chance.

>>140861937
adaptation>evolution

>>140861134

Hisoka's ability is dogshit and he's never been shown to be as strong or fast as the best.

At least 3-4 Ryodan members can fight on par with him 1on1.

>>140861937
The bomb was the proof that humanity was superior. Meruem was the most powerful individual fighter in the series but a single cheaply made, small bomb made by scientists was enough to kill him. Just because Meruem was the "strongest" didn't make him the strongest. If you get what I'm saying.

>>140861989
>>140861964
I understand what you are saying.

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Killua is cute!

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>>140862103
Deku is cuter!

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a smart mfing saiyan, that would just woop his ass without delay (so not goku, go han, or vegeta)

lol

>>140861808
Why does the brightness and contrast change so often in '99? I like the artwork but characters will just be talking about something and suddenly it gets a lot brighter or darker.

>>140862103
>>140862207
>>140862280
All you you, fuck off.

>>140862296
Wasn't it because it was scanned or whatever they did with old anime?

>>140862296

Encoder anon version?

>>140862103
>>140862207
>Killuafag vs. Dekufag
Please don't let this become a thing.

>>140862404
These threads literally can't become any worse.

>>140862363
Yeah I was thinking it might bad a DVD transfer. Like there was this one scene underwater during the battleship filler and I has to turn my TV brightness up halfway to even make out the characters.
>>140862383
Yep.

>>140862496
It'll be better on the HD blu-ray release.
;_;

>>140861969
>Hisoka's ability is dogshit
You're a fucking retard. The ability always perfectly matches the user, and in Hisoka's hands, it's one of the absolute best abilities. Maybe you should go watch DB, this seems too complex for you.
>At least 3-4 Ryodan members can fight on par with him 1on1
>some of the absolute strongest Nen users being able to fight on par with him means he is weak

>>140862555
'99 Yorknew would be quite a sight on Blu-ray.

>all those moody shots of cityscapes in glorious HD

Damn now I'm sad.

>>140862496

Try S-A version. Encoder Anon did some color correcting that might have fucked things up.

>>140862446
Dont say that, it can always get worse.

>>140861969
>Hisoka's ability is dogshit

It's akin to telekinesis with how he uses it. Batman telekinesis at that, because while he can use it to some extent mid fight, it becomes considerably more impactful if he's got time to mousetrap the place, with the benefit appearing to be less strain on his stamina. It may not be as forwardly monstrous as some techniques, but it's definitely not "dogshit."

>>140853965
Gon san could give trouble to pre rose Meruem but he would still lose so no, no one we know could beat him
And Netero didn't beat him retards, Netero himself admired defeat before allahu akbar

>>140853965
Did hunterxhunter actually finish? Did leorio ever do anything? He was my favorite character I even used him as my steam avatar for a long time.

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>>140853965
He's undeveloped Kars, and Kars was defeated.

>>140859777
damn

>>140859173
You got it wrong, they said the DC is not for the strong because in terms of strenght there is no human who could withstand the horrors that lie there, Don needs to be a literal rat in order to survive there, sleep in monster shit and eat shit too.

Morel can kill anything that can breathe.

>>140859468
>powercreep
All the strongest characters are dead you dumb tripcuck, do you know what powercreep means?
>character isn't relevant anymore
He was literally in the last chapter.

Just kill yourself already Bear.

>>140865487
Hisoka was also relevant in the Election arc. Bear is literally mentally retarded.

>>140864497
>Kars was defeated
Defeated is a strong word for what happened to Kars. Avoided is closer to the truth.

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>>140862103
>>140862207
Shotas are cute

>>140865470
But can he kill sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye’s spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken?

>>140865669
Yes, he can. See >>140865470

>>140865669
No, because Naruto characters don't breathe.

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>>140865660
>you will never play pocky games with them

>>140865902
Can Killua electrocute Meruem?

>>140865902
>>140865660

How do you win in this?

>>140866032
You win by kissing your opponent.

>>140866108

I'd do it.

>>140865660
Pika isn't a shota

>>140866731
It depends on what point in the series it is. He was seventeen during the Hunter Exam Arc.

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>>140866215
We can't all win

>>140866731
But he's shota in the oneshots.

>>140866815
Seventeen isn't shota

>>140866815
Do you really think 17 is shota tier, nigger?

>Chimera Ant apologists
Literally the worst people.

>>140867260
(You)

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>>140867260
Friendly reminder that she did nothing wrong. Her only mistake was being too nice.

>>140867260
at least they're not spider apologists.

>>140860175
>Why did 2011 made it so that Kite is a complete stranger to Gon?
The anime team wasn't expecting to get as far as it did. No one knew how far into the manga the anime was going to be, its why they kept announcing that they'd do next next arc over and over like it was a big deal. Its also not the first time this has happend in anime. I guess nips just think why add important characters if they aren't sure themselfs if they will get to adapt the later arcs.

>>140867526
Man, I love it when irredeemable cunts get smashed.

>>140856902
You are mistaken, i remember the line you are talking about, it was mistranslation, that's what happens when you watch horriblesubs.

>>140867628
I don't see why they had to fuck up Gon's characterization and motivation because they didn't think they would get that far though.

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>>140867526
>Being too nice

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>>140867840
Uncalled for, she even apologized

>>140867840
Man, Gon really turned into an evil monster at the end of the Chimera Ant arc huh.

>>140867794
>I don't see why they had to fuck up Gon's characterization and motivation because they didn't think they would get that far though.
Nip logic, they did this same shit with the Fairy Tail anime. Also, wasn't the CA arc in the manga still going back in 2011?

>>140857329
He literally told Komugi that she would die if she stayed with him but she still decided to stay until the end, it was her choice. That's why they both said they were born to experience this moment. You dumb faggot.

>>140868171
Yeah he asked her to kill herself and she said yes. Of course she couldn't refuse but if he told her to live she would've said yes also. The point is he didn't give a shit what happened to her, he just wanted her by his side so his death will be slightly less miserable.

>>140868239
He didn't ask her anything you gigantic nigger, all he did was warn her.
>he didn't give a shit what happened to her
Why do you think he asked Pitou to heal her then?

I'm not sure if you're trying to be contrarian or something of if you're just legitimately retarded but you need to kill yourself either way.

>>140868239
Brain damage.

>>140868448
>>140868419
>Why do you think he asked Pitou to heal her then?
Yeah he wanted her to live but only while he was alive? Sounds like a gigantic selfish faggot.

Why are you letting the truth upset you so? No normal person would accept their loved ones dying in this situation, you literally can't defend this.

>>140868552
According to your logic, making her leave and not letting her have any agency on how she wants to die even after she took her decision is not selfish but letting her have a choice in how she wants to die is. Nice mental gymnastics there you stupid faggot.

>>140869012
She wasn't certain to die from radiation poisoning before that point you fucking embarrassment, go read the manga. While denying her her suicide is arguably selfish, letting her kill herself for the sake of indulging in her comfort for a few minutes and denying her from growing up and having a future is infinitely more selfish. Maybe if she was older you could've went for the "everyone has a right to decide how to die" line of reasoning, but she's just a kid you moron, every responsible adult would've just told her or even forced her to leave.

>>140869324
Komugi was literally an adult you retard. You need to read the manga. Her body is shapely, she's called a woman several times and has been playing Gungi for 10 years. Meruem was the only kid in this situation.

>>140869324
What the fuck are you talking about? After he spent a few moments with her he told her that she'd die if she stayed, he already had "indulged in her comfort" as you put it since he just wanted to be with her again before his death. If that's truly what he wanted he wouldn't even have warned her.
Also Komugi IS an adult so your argument falls apart.

>>140869483
>>140869576
Even if she is an adult that argument is pure nonsense. If you care about someone you don't want them to die, end of story. He enjoyed her company but only in a selfish way, he clearly didn't care that she was hurting herself.

Also I'm pretty sure only Meruem calls her a woman, probably because from his point of view it doesn't matter how old humans are. Of course it doesn't really matter, she's clearly depicted as a teenager at best both in looks and mannerisms, you're just grasping hard like the ant apologists that you are.

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>>140862404
literal perfection

>>140870074
I can't imagine hxh without this based character, please togashi let him beat chrollo.

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>>140869869
Yes, look at this fine depiction of a kid/teen here >>140858746 and >>140859198

Anyway, have fun moving the goalposts as much as you'd like.

>>140869869
You keep going in circles and disregard arguments while repeating the same ones over and over again, at this point i'm convinced you're either completely retarded or shitposting.

>>140870157
Yes, she looks like a teen there.
You're the only one moving the goalposts, I've said it doesn't matter how old she is from the very beginning, Meruem is a selfish fag for allowing her to get radiation poisoning when he could've stopped it, your only """"argument""" is that she's allowed to choose to suicide.

>>140870218
What have I disregarded?

>>140870270
No she doesn't, she simply looks like a malnourished adult.

You keep moving the goalposts hard. First you say she's a kid, now you're saying she's depicted as a teen, and before you were saying that anon could have only made his argument if she were older. Just hang yourself already.

>>140870550
I can find several pages where she looks like a legit loli, you pretending that she's 100% unmistakably an adult is disingenuous.

You're so retarded that you don't understand the difference between moving the goalposts and arguing multiple points. Whether or not she's an adult is a minor point but I'm arguing it anyway because I believe she isn't, it's like I'm multitasking. I'm also allowed to change my position about her being a kid or a teen or whatever, that's not moving the goalposts you illiterate retard, maybe I should link the wiki article on moving the goalposts so you could finally shut up about it and learn what it is.

>>140853965
No. None of them.

I doubt he could beat Meruem but I really want to see Maha fight. We know that he was a lot stronger than Netero in his prime so I think he could have at least gave Meruem a good fight.

>>140870550
Oh and I said that MAYBE he could've made that argument if she was older, figures that you can't even comprehend English words.

>>140869869
Pouf also calls her a woman, and before you pull the "from his point of view it doesn't matter how old humans are" card he calls Gon a kid.
Her looks and mannerisms don't matter to what you were trying to argue, she was an adult so her decision is completely legitimate.
>>140870270
Everything pretty much, you're not addressing the points about how Meruem warned her so he clearly did not want to selfishly enjoy her company. He basically told her that she could and should leave.
Also how stupid do you have to be to say he enjoyed her company in a selfish way when both of them feel like they were born for this moment only.

At this point your argument is "if he cared about her he wouldn't have accepted her decision so he's selfish", which is fucking retarded because denying her choice is far more selfish than accepting it.

can we make a pact not to respond to autistic ADHD riddled retards like the guy sperging about meruem?

>>140870828
If we could do that and have people not respond to shitty bait in general these threads would be a lot better

>>140870818
>Her looks and mannerisms don't matter to what you were trying to argue, she was an adult so her decision is completely legitimate.
>this evidence doesn't matter because it doesn't support my position.
Neck yourself.

>Meruem warned her so he clearly did not want to selfishly enjoy her company
He warned her but he didn't force her away like he should have, I thought this was obvious so I neglected to mention it.
>both of them feel like they were born for this moment only.
Who gives a shit, that's just their momentary feelings.

>denying her choice is far more selfish than accepting it.
How retarded are you to honestly say that? Do you even read what you write? I already admitted that denying her suicide is somewhat selfish because on some level you're cockblocking her deathwish, but letting her die is infinitely more selfish.

>>140870828
You're the sperg.

>>140870818
>Pouf also calls her a woman, and before you pull the "from his point of view it doesn't matter how old humans are" card he calls Gon a kid.
Do you know the exact japanese words he used? Just curious. Onna and shounen?

>>140870828
>>140871026
>everyone that disagrees with me is baiting
You're honestly pathetic, are you so weak that your only method of dealing with adversity is to try and deflect and avoid it? Trying to discredit someone and get other people to join so you could ignore them is just cowardly. I'd much rather you'd just say you're tired from arguing about this and stopped posting.

>>140871327
Not sure why you're quoting me, I haven't spoken to you once

>>140871469
My bad then.

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>>140855908
>Goreinu
This.

Worst thread since skeleton camwhore.

>Ctr+f adult gon, 3 results
>Ctr+f gon san + gon-san 4 result
Close enough I guess.

>>140871036
>this evidence doesn't matter
What evidence? Those aren't evidence, or else you'd be telling me that Kalluto is a girl.

>he didn't force her away like he should have
Why should he have done that exactly? You're stating your arguments but you're not explaining your reasoning.
>that's just their momentary feelings
That's a pretty stupid thing to say, you can dismiss anything anyone ever said by saying it's just momentary feelings.

>letting her die is infinitely more selfish
Again, you're not explaining your reasoning.
You also have to keep in mind Komugi doesn't think her life has much value, she would kill herself is she ever lost in gungi.

>>140871641
Did you include broken gon?
Not that he could beat Meruem but still.

>>140871718
That makes both even.

>>140869483
How old was Komugi? I only watched the anime and got the impression she was AT LEAST under 20. She looked and acted like a 14 maybe?

>>140871804
Nah

>>140871698
>Those aren't evidence
I know it's not 100% but the fact that she's drawn like a little girl more often than not has to count for something. Kalluto and Pitou being confusing can't be helped, Togashi is a perverted old man.

>Why should he have done that exactly?
Presumably because he cares about her life? Is this something I should have stated?

>you can dismiss anything anyone ever said by saying it's just momentary feelings.
You can dismiss a lot things said or done due to momentary feelings if they're stupid decisions, for sure.

>Again, you're not explaining your reasoning.
Letting her die is selfish because you're placing something above her best interests(which is living). Even if we assume Meruem respects her so much that he lets do what she wants the fact that he lets her kill herself for no good reason shows that he doesn't care for her.

>Komugi doesn't think her life has much value
In her eyes it doesn't but from Meruem's perspective it does.

>>140871833
Probably around 17 or so?

So many characters can, Saitama, Goku, Gurren Lagann, Boros, Aizen, Beerus, Whis, etc.

>>140872454
What chapter were those faggots in?

>>140872283
So why are people saying she was an adult? 17 isn't adult.

>>140872507
yorkshin i think

>>140872528
It's almost as if that number was freshly pulled from anon's ass.

>>140872528
17 is old hag tier, etc.

>>140872507
I read can anyone in anime beat him, not anyone in the anime.

>>140872608
We don't know her true age. Calling her an adult is just as much of an asspull, not that it stopped anyone from claiming she is one with absolute certainty.

>>140872134
> the fact that she's drawn like a little girl more often than not has to count for something
It really doesn't, the same way Leorio was drawn like a 20-something year old guy but was a teenager in the exam.

>Presumably because he cares about her life?
He expressed the fact that he cared about Komugi's life by protecting her, asking Pitou to heal her rather than fight against Netero with him and warning her that she would die if she stayed with him. Accepting her choice to die with him doesn't mean he doesn't care about her life, it just means he feels like he shouldn't make that choice for her.

>if they're stupid decisions
No, you can dismiss literally anything that way.

>you're placing something above her best interests(which is living)
I really don't understand how you can aknowledge the fact that he warned her about it and still say that, those are very conflicting things. He doesn't have any ulterior motives, so the only thing he would place above her life is her agency.
>the fact that he lets her kill herself for no good reason shows that he doesn't care for her
See my previous points, he clearly showed that he cared for Komugi. Considering that he knew how little value she put in her life, i doubt he considered it "no good reason" either.

>from Meruem's perspective it does
If you're trying to imply that he should have taken the decision for her, that goes completely against what you were saying about selfishness.

>>140873363
Not really, there's clues in the dialogue. Being referred to as a woman and referring to her technique as her child doesn't really leave room for ambiguity.

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>>140872134
Her best interest isn't necessarily living. Komugi's entire life revolved around gungi, and she ended up bonding to Meruem and he became the best player she ever met, to the point where she activated latent abilities inside her. Do you really think she would have enjoyed living life without Meruem? Not in the slightest. She's not a normal person, where it still might be likely for them to still find happiness after losing one of the greatest things to happen to her. She actually says "Am I allowed to be so happy?" regarding Meruem. She's had a shit life, she's probably had no actual challenges in gungi, and a complex relationship with Meruem. It is absolutely in her best interest to spend what little time she has left with him, regardless of if it kills her or not. Since the chances of her actually enjoying her life after that are very slim.

And Meruem even felt silly at himself for even warning her, since she's literally just like "no fuk you I'm staying." Shit, imagine if he forced her to live, on top of her life being shit, her last memory of him would be him not wanting to spend his last moments with her, and denying what she wants, and she'd have to live the rest of her shit life like that.

Meruem had a very clear perspective that her life doesn't mean that much to her, since she flat out told him her life story, told him that she'd kill herself if she lost, and told him that she was born for this moment, and told was crying and surprised that she was even allowed to be so happy. The instant he hinted for her to go and she said "no fuk u" he definitely knew her perspective as well as any of us ever could.

Also, doubting what she said as not true is silly. This is a work of fiction, and the author most likely wouldn't have made her said that without any indications of it not being true, unless it were absolutely true. From a thematic perspective, there's no reason that would just be a temporary state she was in. She was 100% sure.

>>140873436
>It really doesn't
It undeniably does. If Leorio's true age wasn't revealed you may very well have been sitting here arguing he was in his twenties. People looking unlike their age is the exception not the rule and you're dishonest for pretending it doesn't matter but how a character calls her does, when the reverse is true. How a character looks is much more likely to represent their true age than how someone calls them which.

>it just means he feels like he shouldn't make that choice for her.
Which is silly because it's a stupid choice and he would've done well to prevent her from throwing her life away. The true reason he didn't press the issue is he didn't want to die alone.

>No, you can dismiss literally anything that way.
No, you can and you should dismiss momentary sentimentality if that sentimentality is driving someone to make stupid decisions with long lasting effects. If you really, really, wanted to do a dangerous drug and someone dismissed your desire and told you to deal with it you'd probably agree with them. I'm not dismissing all feelings here.

>He doesn't have any ulterior motives
He was scared shitless of death and wanted her to hold his hand. Did you read his death scene? It's the saddest death in the whole manga.

>If you're trying to imply that he should have taken the decision for her, that goes completely against what you were saying about selfishness.
In what way? It's selfish but not as selfish as letting her harm herself for the sake of his own comfort.

>>140873577
Her life would sure be shit after her country got destroyed and her only gungi rival is dead, but I think you're being too dramatic. She could've lived a normal life eventually even if she is autistic blind frail and has no reason to life.

>>140853965
A Meleoron + Shalnark combo could take him down, though it would be Meleoron + Chrollo now. Actually, Chrollo could do it single handedly if he stole Meleoron ability.

>>140874005
This is the most retarded thing I've read all week.

>>140874152
What if the needle can't pierce Meruem?

>>140874219
Humans can find happiness!

>>140874232
Put it in his butthole.

>>140853965
Gohan did

>>140853965
Why didn't Killua just order Nanaka to kill Meruem and his Royal Guards, then give him to some tourists to deal with the fallout? Is he just a bad friend?

>>140874005
I'm not being too dramatic: the author of the mango is. But it still doesn't change the fact that you're most likely wrong in this particular argument. Sure, in a real life situation, we'd have no idea for sure if it was just a temporary state, or if she really is just that different from a normal human in that she was 100% sure it was in her best interest, and no amount of time would have likely ever made her theoretically regret her decision as too hasty or enjoy her life again.

In fiction, we can tell due to author intent and themes that the later really was likely the case, she and Meruem were 100% sure, and no amount of time would change that. From a thematic perspective, the author would have had to give a lot more of a hint that it was a temporary thing than he did, but instead all of the build up for Meruem and Komugi was just for those final moments.

Also, you never considered the fact that Meruem could have been just as crazy as she was, and just as convinced it was in her best interest as she was, regardless of whether it was actually temporary or not, in both of their eyes, if it were, then the logical result would be that they would let themselves be crazy and make rash decisions, without an actual need for one or the other to be selfish. Like in your drug example, if I were just as crazy as my loved one, and had no way of realizing that my loved one would actually regret their decision to take drugs, and in fact, was convinced by her that taking drugs was 100% what she wanted with no regret, and was the best thing for her to do, then I'd let her take drugs, since I wouldn't be able to maybe surmise that in the long run she'd regret it. I don't need to be selfish to let that happen- it's possible, but it's also possible I'm simply as crazy and convinced as she is that taking drugs will 100% complete her life/ be the best for her with no regrets. This is a possibility as well. Though still unlikely due to theme build up.

>>140873577
Also sorry if you were being sarcastic.

>>140874685
>>140874733
Ok I give up you're right I'm wrong now please have mercy on my soul senpai.

>>140874005
>>140874733

Sorry if you were being sarcastic. And also definitely sorry for replying to myself like a retard.

>>140873882
>It undeniably does
No, it doesn't. Also i didn't try to argue that she was adult because there are other characters that don't look their age, i was arguing against your point that she was a kid because she looked like one. There is evidence in what she and other characters say that lead to believe otherwise, so at the very least it's ambiguous.
Either way your point was that Meruem should have taken the decision for her, but even if she was a teenager she'd still be much older than him.

>he would've done well to prevent her from throwing her life away
That's another matter entirely, we're arguing the reasons why he did it. The fact remains that it was Komugi's decision and you're somehow blaming this all on Meruem.
>The true reason is he didn't want to die alone
If that was correct he wouldn't even have warned her, but he did and took the risk of her leaving. As far as we know all he wanted was to see her again before dying, not to die with someone.

>you can and you should dismiss momentary sentimentality
I really don't see your point, everything is momentary sentimentality. Again, you can dismiss anything that way.

>He was scared shitless of death and wanted her to hold his hand.
>It's selfish but not as selfish as letting her harm herself for the sake of his own comfort
See my point above, if his "ulterior motive" was to spend his last moments with Komugi then he wouldn't even have warned her. He asked her if she could hold his hand only because she took the decision to die with him. The sole fact that he even brought it up proves that he put her above what he wanted.

Just curious but since you brought up the fact that he "didn't press the issue", what do you think he should have done? Just ask her "are you sure"? Because from what she said it seemed pretty clear that she made up her mind.

>>140875238
>your point that she was a kid because she looked like one.
I didn't say looks can't be deceiving but to give it equal weight as the words of an ant is ridiculous. If wing called zushi a man you wouldn't say he's just as likely to be a man as he is a kid, would you? How a character is drawn is more important than how it's being referred to. Again I didn't argue that she has to be a kid. I personally believe she's very young because it's fucking obvious from the way she's drawn and how she acts, but I have no absolute proof. I could maybe argue that if she started playing gungi at the same age prodigious chess players do and she's playing for 10 years she has to be young but it's pointless.

>she'd still be much older than him.
Meruem is like a week old though so his mental age is much higher than normal. Plus he sees himself as the king, he can make decisions for other people.

>it was Komugi's decision and you're somehow blaming this all on Meruem.
I'm didn't say it's his fault she died, I said it's selfish of him to let her kill herself for the sake of being near her. Now that you bring it up though her death is his fault on some level, if he just killed himself as soon as he was born a whole lot of people wouldn't have died.

>If that was correct he wouldn't even have warned her
I think it was pretty clear from how he kept asking her if she was still here and asked her not to leave him, he really wanted her company. The fact that he warned her is strange I admit, but it was a half assed warning. He should've pressed the issue if he really did care. Why would you just warn someone that they're about to die and then say nothing when they say they don't mind dying? Was he just saying that to be polite?


>everything is momentary sentimentality
Let's just forget about it.

>what do you think he should have done?
He should've ordered some ant to take care of her after he died. Let me ask you, what would you have done if it was your waifu?