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Volume R spoilers soon
10.5 OVA pics released

Am I the only one who is hyped just for that scene in 10.5 between Hayato and 8man acting like bros?
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>>140851898
I wish Watari would just release 12 already.
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Good Irohasu, everyone!
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Sensei
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Cunt
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Winner of Vol 12 coming through
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Waiting for the spoilers.
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Posting end game pairing
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I wonder how many more 8manXsensei Doujins are there other than the Love-Hotel one?
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>>140853893
cunt
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>>140855045
Every Yahari doujin should be about Sensei.
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>>140855056
>Violent
>Depressed
>Alcoholic Whore

I fail to see anything wrong with these.
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>>140851898
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>>140855121
Sensei and her clones are perfection
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>>140855094
Yeah, unfortunately that is not the case, all I want is more translated 8manXsensei Doujins, sure the Love-Hotel one is good, but I just need more dammit
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>>140855204
>hurting Sensei
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>>140855275
>Implying that Sensei isn't into some pretty kinky shit.
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>>140853068
you must be kidding
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>>140855325
I just want to see the story reach its conclusion. The rest can come after.
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The only true ending
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Isshiki Akbar
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>>140855699
>HIRATSUKA claimed this post was a joke.
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>>140854839
It should be illegal for Saika to be that cute.
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>>140856060
He makes me wanna do something illegal
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Have the recipes from ANOTHER been posted yet?

Yukinoshita's recipe

Placing wheat flour, sugar and chocolate on the weighing scales.

Properly arranging all those that have been weighed.

To decide on the correct amount of time, to perfectly build up a list of established procedures.

In order for it to not go wrong, so that there will be no mistakes.

However, there is just one thing, there are lies mixed into it.

For what the truth is worth, there is a spoonful of lies.

As I baked them one by one, towards the weak looking portions, gracefully, without leaving a gap or an uneven surface, I coat it with a layer of bitter chocolate.

From the view here, the fine powdered sugar sparkled beautifully like snow.

The sugar falling down as I sprinkle them was just like the snow.

They could probably cover up and hide just about everything.

I think it's cowardly.

I'd probably even accepted this cowardly side of me already.

She is. My friend.

Knowing this and yet trying to hide it, I think I am probably trying to push my feelings of guilt onto her.

I am probably still clinging on to those sweet things.

However, because there are still things that I desire.

That's why, I will do the things that I can do.

I can only do it up till this point, the rest depends on you.

Telling her this, I turn around to face her.

And with that, I began to recall my initial conversation with her.

Just like that time too, it was just the two of us.

What kind of conversation it was, with the exception of the two of us, there was no one else, not even him, who knows it.

Yet, she was just like that time; I could see an uneasy expression on her.

To try and ease her uneasiness, I spoke to her in as gentle a tone as possible.

It's alright as long as you can smile even more brightly than during that time.

"The next time, the handmade cookies, we are going to give it right?"

Surely, this is the correct form.

Therefore, this is my recipe.
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>>140856157

Yui's recipe

Putting the sugar little by little with trembling hands.

Even if the product doesn't come out nicely, it's fine.

It would be the best if it could come out cutely though.

But, it probably won't end up being like that.

Because there's a lot of things mixed into it.

I tried to collect just the sweet things, just the cute things and only the things that you like.

Just as I thought, it can't be done.

Chiseling here, cutting there, an unevenness all around. Sweet and bitter.

I am not particularly smart or anything. I've probably always been this way.

That's why, there's no way I can do it perfectly.

I don't know what is "correct". It's definitely not the right way to do it however.

Therefore, I've always been putting in some sort of subtle seasoning that only I know.

So as to not let anyone know. So as to not let him know.

Milk and condensed milk. Also, a little of bitter coffee.

Towards that pure white cream, mixing a little of black bit by bit.

The original whiteness of it can no longer be restored.

No matter how diluted it is, how much I add, he will surely remember the bitterness.

It's unfair, for both me and her.

However, it's because of love that this unfairness even arose.

I want to keep loving you. Both me and my friend.

Calling out, looking up. My eyes catches hold of the serious expression and I flinch, just a little.

Just like that time, I wonder if it was done nicely.

Totally different from me, not one bit of me bears any resemblance.

That's why I am attracted to you and rapidly fall in love with you

At the very beginning when I first talked to you, I was so nervous that I could barely converse.

Probably, the same was true for the other as well.

Though I want to give a smile that was more earnest than always, I don't think I have the confidence to even smile like I usually do.

(cont.)
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>>140856200

However, probably, the way in which both she and I smiled were likely to be the same.

"......Un. I will try to do it, my own way. Thank you."

Whether it's correct or not I do not know. However, this will be my recipe.
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>>140856157
>recipes from ANOTHER
What are you talking about?
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>>140856518

They're near the end of Volume R, sort of like the memorandums of other volumes. One for Yukino and one for Yui, talking about their feelings making chocolates.
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>>140855699
I disagree
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>>140856572
Character songs and now cooking recipes.

Watarin is breaking my heart.
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>>140856157

> From the view here, the fine powdered sugar sparkled beautifully like snow.
> The sugar falling down as I sprinkle them was just like the snow.
> They could probably cover up and hide just about everything.

That really gives the impression that Yukino's problems remain unresolved in ANOTHER. It's like a capitulation on her part.
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>>140856831
It's just Yukino not going for the things she wants.
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>>140856200

> Totally different from me, not one bit of me bears any resemblance.
> That's why I am attracted to you and rapidly fall in love with you
> At the very beginning when I first talked to you, I was so nervous that I could barely converse.

Yui really is a sweetie. Almost makes me feel bad about her getting likely ripped to pieces in vol 12.
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>>140856874

I dunno, it makes me think of Yukino as static and unchanging. It seems to be evoking the meaning of her name.

And it contrasts with name of the last chapter of vol 11:

> Spring, buried underneath the snow, begins to bloom.

Yukino's "snow" can't hide everything, but maybe it can in ANOTHER.
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>>140856917
Yui is only a sweetie as long as she gets what she wants.
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"Get in Hikigaya, and let me give you a ride, if you know what I mean"
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>>140857061

Sensei you really need to spend your last few good years doing something better than scoping out high school boys.

You're going to end up one of those women who get arrested and reported on the news for illicit relationship with a student. And everyone will go: "Why did she do that? She's hot!"
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>>140857121
>Implying that Sensei wouldn't offer 8man a "Ride" within minutes of him graduating from Sobu
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>>140856917
> Totally different from me, not one bit of me bears any resemblance.
> That's why I am attracted to you and rapidly fall in love with you
So Yui's "love" for 8man was never anything but an extension of her own self-loathing.
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>>140857198

Hachiman is the latest in a series of supple young boytoys for Sensei. She will use him for sex after he graduates until she gets bored and then it's on to the next tortured loner for her to give "counseling" to.
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>>140857220
Nothing is perfect, everyone in this series is a flawed character.
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>>140857270
>Implying that Sensei will get bored with 8man like the rest of the boys she's been with
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Yui won in ANOTHER and is going to win in the main series. Theres a reason why shes has all the romance flags
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>>140857590

Nah, there's a reason why they had to give Yukino's romance flags to Yui in ANOTHER.
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>>140856157
>>140856200

These put a bit of a damper on the supposed 'fairy tale ending' that ANOTHER is alleged to have.
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Why would ANOTHER's Yukino be so convinced her friendship with Yui is over if she tries for 8man? Or does she not pursue because she still can't grab what she wants and Yui did.
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>>140855325
Watari hair looks like that just guy's
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>>140857932

As >>140856157 this makes clear, she is a coward. She just needs a reason to be apprehensive about something and she won't do it. You could say she doesn't really know how it would turn out if she went for Hachiman knowing Yui likes him too, but just the fear of it turning out bad kept her away.

It's a contrast from the resolution that seems to get imparted in her at the end of vol 11 and her character song which represents that resolve.
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The only way for Yui to win was for Yukino to not try.

ANOTHER after story, written by Fumiaki Maruto.
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what is it about season 2 that makes sensei and yukino look like men?
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>>140858374

Nothing. Because they don't.
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>>140858183
My Young Adult Romcom Is Still Wrong As Expected.
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>>140858041
So Yukino doesn't choose friendship, she just chooses not to pursue so nothing really bad happens. ANOTHER sounds like Yukino's bad end.

With these revelations I am starting to think the infirmary scene isn't where she realized she loved him. It is just the scene that lights a fire under her ass.
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>>140858183
>The only way for Yui to win was for Watari to make Yukino less than a side character.
Ftfy
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>>140858556
What is the sprouts.
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>>140858556

> ANOTHER sounds like Yukino's bad end.

It sort of is, but isn't really presented that way. Outside of subtle hints.
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>>140858556
>ANOTHER sounds like Yukino's bad end.
Hopefully that doesn't mean the main series is Yui's bad end.

>>140858621
Are there any hints besides her recipe and what we know of the main series?
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A Yukino end would only feed her dependency issues. She needs to not end up with 8man romantically in order to flesh out her character. Her end doesnt need romance; she just needs a support system (Yui/8man) to succeed.
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>>140858971
How is Watari going to flesh out Yui's character? Her route is over and she has had barely any character development since the beginning of the series.
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>>140858183
That will only happen if Yukino's feelings don't die and they boil over. 8man seems to like Yui in ANOTHER rather than just saying yes to her.
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>>140858971

That's pretty much ANOTHER and it has sour overtones for her.

What Yukino needs to do is stand up for what she wants, then reach out and take it. If what she wants is to get railed by 8man on the service club table, then that is what she needs go and get for herself. Everything else is sophistry.
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>>140858913

> Are there any hints besides her recipe and what we know of the main series?

I don't know that there is. A full translation may give some more hints. ANOTHER it seems makes clear that she has feelings for 8man and chooses to set them aside. But without the main story to let us know how bad that is for Yukino, we don't have the context we need to make the full evaluation.
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>>140859296
Pretty much this, the only way for Yukino to win 8man's 8inches is for her to go get them herself, because if she hesitates, then she has already lost.
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So 3P is out of the question. Well, YY were never going to share anyways.

I disagree on one thing, Yukino is helped a lot that Yui learns she likes 8man. Yui never learns it in ANOTHER, as far as we know.

>>140859900
Yui used to represent something good for Yukino. Now it seems like Yui is lurking like a predator.

>>140859682
>ANOTHER it seems makes clear that she has feelings for 8man and chooses to set them aside.
It is more like the natural flow of things is for Yui to get 8man since it takes action by Yukino to prevent that end. Yukino doesn't act and hides her feelings. Something tells me that is not something good for her.
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>>140860229
Yui never learns it in ANOTHER, as far as we know.


>It's unfair, for both me and her.However, it's because of love that this unfairness even arose.I want to keep loving you. Both me and my friend.
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>>140857055
She was a sweetie all through vol 11.
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>>140860229

> Yukino doesn't act and hides her feelings.

That is true right up to the end of vol 11, but the behavior at the end of that last scene and her character song, along with what we know about her, makes it pretty clear we're going to see a dramatically different Yukino in vol 12.
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>>140860229
disregard this >>140860454

I was mistaking the point you were making.
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>>140860340
If Yui knew Yukino liked him then that is a sign that Yui's little stunt in vol 11 was for her sake and 8man's sake. If she thinks 8man likes Yukino she pulls a stunt, if she thinks it is one sided from Yukino she just takes 8man. That is cruel and unfair of her to do things like that. She is a good girl but if this is true I can see why she would mistake herself for a bad girl.
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>>140860558
Yui would have been fine with a lie.
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"Hey Hikigaya, I'll come to the cabin you're sleeping in later tonight once everyone's gone to sleep"
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Where is the divergence point between the ANOTHER series and the main story.
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>>140860576
But would she be fine with having her Hikki and having her friend knowing that Yukino likes him but never addressing it? It is one thing if they talked it out but if it remains "hidden" then that is terrible.

But who knows, maybe Yukino is earnestly picking friendship and if that is the case Yui did nothing wrong. It isn't much of a lie if 8man likes Yui, only if he is just going along with it because he has no reason not to. In ANOTHE it seems like her actually likes her.
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>>140860733
Yes. That's exactly what she did in ANOTHER.

>>140860340
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>>140860726
?*
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>>140860726

ANOTHER starts near where vol 10 begins. Both vol 10 and ANOTHER have the shrine visit at the beginning.
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>>140860761
But it isn't a problem if Yukino picks friendship and 8man likes Yui.
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>>140860733

The best way to spin it if you're a Yuifag is to say that in ANOTHER Yukino has a crush on Hachiman, but it's not at the same level it is in the main story. So when she is forced to choose between her friendship with Yui (which is much stronger in ANOTHER) and a possible romance with Hachiman, she sets it aside. The implication of that is that in the main story she won't set Hachiman aside and will probably pursue him aggressively.

But this >>140856157 makes it a little difficult to cling to that interpretation. It is suggesting all is not well with Yukino.
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>why are you guys so worried about an AU story, relax no one is going to take it seriously
See this is the problem Watari has created by doing this. Hachiman's feelings don't matter in the equation. It's all decided by which girl he spends the most time with in the last parts of the series.
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>>140860809
Time to re-read vol10 then, thanks anon.
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Will Watari ever show us highschool Komachi?
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>>140860917

Well Hachiman is a little different in ANOTHER if that confession is really his (some people think it's Hayama's). He basically abandons genuine.

So it's not that his feelings don't matter, it's that he goes down two separate paths.
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>>140861111
I'd prefer a prequel with elementary Komachi
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>>140860889
It feels bad. I don't want an end that Yui only wins because Yukino lets it happen. When it gets TL'd I sure hope this nonsense about it being Yukino's bad end is false. It would be leave a bad taste in my mouth if Yukino was aware of everything and hid her feelings out not having the chutzpah to actually grab what she wants rather than picking friendship.

>>140861305
He almost gave in to Yui's proposal before he realized it was very bad.
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>>140861111
There's a chance she could end up with Sensei as her home-room teacher. My heart.
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Yukinofags, which do you prefer?
>Yukino chooses friendship over her feelings for 8man
>Yukino is too spineless to pursue what she wants so Yui just takes him
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>>140861543

Well what her recipe makes crystal clear in my opinion is that Yukino's personal issues still exist in ANOTHER. They just aren't being dealt with. And one would definitely not say that's a good thing for Yukino. Yui may know about Yukino's feelings for 8man, but she doesn't necessarily know just how messed up Yukino is under the hood.

But I guess the silver lining is that, as Sensei tells 8man back in vol 9, it doesn't HAVE to be Hachiman who crosses the line and brings Yukino out of her shell. She might still firmly live in it in ANOTHER, but someday someone will help get out of it.

Hopefully she won't be a broken woman like Sensei is by then. Remember Sensei's character song:

> No matter how I wrote it, I couldn’t give the love letter that was hidden in my desk.
> If I had given it during that time, I wonder if anything would’ve changed.

That sounds a bit like what Yukino goes through in ANOTHER.
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>>140861887

In that case, I would take #1. But there's 0% chance of #2 happening after the end of vol 11 in case you're thinking those are the two Yui ends that will happen in both ANOTHER and the main series.
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>>140861887
>>140861947

Nevermind you're probably talking about different interpretations of ANOTHER.

In that case I like #1 more, but #2 is sounding more like what really happened. But you know, if Yukino did try and go for 8man in ANOTHER, she might have still lost. She is missing some of the important romance-related scenes with 8man. And 8man just doesn't seem as into her in ANOTHER as she is in the main story.
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>>140862092
>And 8man just doesn't seem as into her in ANOTHER as she is in the main story.
Which is exactly why people keep saying that another ignores the first 9 volumes. All of a sudden Hachiman could not give less of a fuck about her.
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>>140862467

Little did 8man know that Yui was actually looking for her and mom's shared lover.
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I wonder, why the fuck is Komachi taking a selfie of her kissing 8man?
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>>140862833
You mean 8man, right?
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>>140861913
If Yukino's problems exist then that unconfirmed spoiler where Haruno ignores 8man and has nothing to do with him supports it.

Why was there so much HayamaxYukino speculation? It doesn't seem like anything for the sort happened. Also it seems like the first spoilers to come out were true and not fanfiction.
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>>140863001

> Why was there so much HayamaxYukino speculation?
It's a ye olde and venerable way to shitpost in Oregairu threads. You don't need much. Just the slightest of hints, like "Hayama is looking for Yukino after the race so that means he'll have the infirmary scene instead of Hachiman".
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WW shouldn't have written ANOTHER. She should have instead written a BL version of the ending that paired Hayama and Hachiman. Then published it under the pen name "Hina Ebina".
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Man hyped for the Haruno route of absurdity.
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>>140862911
Blackmail
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Third season please.
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>>140863366
What would she be hoping to gain from blackmailing him?
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>>140863001
Well Yukino didn't get chosen again in ANOTHER, so it's only natural Haruno would lose interest in him. Haruno is probably the only one "in character" in ANOTHER.
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>>140863072
Yeah but ANOTHER just proves Yukio doesn't need the flags to like 8man, she just needs them so she sticks to his head and reinforce her feelings. ANOTHER kind of kills the Yukino likes Hayama theory, they only way they get together is against Yukino's will.

>>140862092
Yeah she may have lost but there is value in trying.

>#2 is sounding more like what really happened
I don't like that ANOTHER had a bad tasting lining. I want to read it but the recipes really hurt the chances that there is no bad taste.

>>140863496
More Komachi points. She will trade the to Yukino for a car.
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>>140863461

Animate what? We're through vol 11 already and ANOTHER is a lot of the same stuff in previous volumes, just a little different.

We only have one more volume left. No enough for a whole season.

From what I remember reading, WW has talked about writing for different characters like Hayama. If he follows through with that and it's popular, we might see Oregairu turned into a huge clusterfuck like Monogatari. Not that that's likely though.
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>>140863366
More interested in why she is about to punch him.
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>>140863496
More points

>>140863593
Because he saw her pink and he popped in her head when she was trying to masturbate to cuntboy
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>>140863518
Haruno says she doesn't care who he picks but maybe she was just baiting him to think about it honestly.

So 8man is just some guy to Haruno who couldn't help her sister and leaves her to rot. I guess he really Hayama except Yukimom doesn't force 8man down her throat.
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>>140863535

> I don't like that ANOTHER had a bad tasting lining.

The main story probably will too, no matter how it shakes out. That's probably one of the things WW meant when he said an ending fans would accept and not accept.
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>>140863800

Hachiman was intriguing to Haruno because of his usefulness in helping Yukino deal with her issues and also because of his commitment to genuine.

He is neither really in ANOTHER so to Haruno he is just plain BORING.
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>>140863893
>Hachiman turns his back on genuine and Yukino
>Haruno turns her back on Hachiman
P O T T E R Y
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>>140863535
>More Komachi points.

I thought it was Onii-chan points that she get's while 8man got Komachi points, must've gotten 'em mixed up.


>>140863746
>He popped into her head when trying to masturbate to cunboy

To be fair, 8man pops into everyone's minds when trying to masturbate, especially Totsuka, although I'd imagine would be already thinking of 8man when masturbating
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>>140864040
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>>140864093
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>>140863893
8man was always Yukino bait. I guess his usefulness dried up so there is no reason to concern herself with him.

>>140863823
I don't very much like this lining though. Those recipes really leave the bad taste. Yukino is not in a good place and again does what she always does. Yui accepts whatever just because Hikki is attached to it, she knows what Yukino feels and Yukino knows what Yui feels. It also makes it seem like getting 8man was her main concern and had her undivided interest the entire time.

ANOTHER might be a happy end or a time bomb, vol 12 will shed light. Yes I am bitter, I wanted an unequivocal good end.
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>>140863823
>ending fans would accept and not accept
Was this Watari referring to the endings in the main vs ANOTHER?
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>>140864625

That was before ANOTHER was even announced.

Who knows how long it has been planned. He might have just been shitting us.
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>>140858183
The similarities are uncanny
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>>140864648
Ok, so he was likely referring to the fact that the main ending will be bittersweet in nature
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>>140864859

Not necessarily just that. We don't know how long ANOTHER has been planned.
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>>140865019
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>>140864904
Yea but I doubt he would make a statement contrasting the two endings before even announcing that there would be two different ones
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>>140865096

He didn't really make such a statement. It was vague and unclear to the point where we are still debating what it meant now. Could be one thing, could be another.
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>>140865096
He also said that he wanted to write ANOTHER for a long time. The point is Watari is full of shit.
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>>140865183
This picture shows the undeniable ending to this show.
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>>140865129
>>140865176
Whenever I see people post statements Watari made about the series they always seem a bit off. I thought it might be an issue with translating, but now I think he just likes pulling our dicks
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>>140865275
Nah, Hachiman is nothing but a pawn to her.
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>>140865275

That picture could only become reality if Haruno making out with 8man somehow helped Yukino overcome her problems.

Since we now know that 8man means nothing whatsoever to Haruno outside of being a tool she uses to prod Yukino.
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>>140865307

> he just likes pulling our dicks

Pretty much, yeah.
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>>140865310
A sex pawn
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>>140855045
>>140855094
>>140853893
>>140855005
>>140855185
>>140855699
I don't get it. What's the appeal of Sensei?
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>>140865535
She's flawless.
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>>140865535

People don't seem to realize she's one big cautionary tale.
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>>140865535
Delicious cake
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>>140865617
>>140865649
This, while I do like the other girls (And Totsuka) Sensei is the only one for 8man
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>>140865323
It might put Yukino into a jealous rage. I don't see how that helps, it would make her punish 8man and even be madder at her sister.

>Since we now know that 8man means nothing whatsoever to Haruno outside of being a tool she uses to prod Yukino.
What? She seems interested in him as a person.
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>>140866191
>What? She seems interested in him as a person.
Not even in the slightest. Her interest in Hachiman went away the second he choose Yui over Yukino.
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>>140866191
>>140866381

Well to be fair, the only other thing that might interest Haruno about Hachiman, his whole 'genuine' spiel, is something he is apparently flexible on in ANOTHER.
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>>140866506
Haruno's initial interest in Hachiman existed because she thought the two of them were dating or at the very least Hachiman was someone Yukino liked hanging out with. This happened in volume 3. The first time Hachiman mentions genuine to Haruno is volume 8. Which should bring you to the conclusion that Haruno only cares about this genuine thing because it involves Yukino.
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>>140866690

Her memorandum in vol 10 suggests 'genuine' means more to Haruno than that.
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>>140866747
She quite literally states that it's something she doesn't believe in. She wants Hachiman and Yukino to prove her wrong though.
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>>140866806

She doesn't believe in it, but she wonders if it exists.

The idea of it has meaning to her, one way or the other, beyond just Yukino.
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>>140866806
8man doesn't prove her wrong, he picks someone else and doesn't pursue it as far as she is concerned.
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>>140866850
Then you don't understand Haruno as a character.
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>>140866901
Ok? And how is that different from what I'm saying? We're talking about ANOTHER is presume.
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>>140855045
I read one where they became fuck buddies and even went to the mall and fucked in a changing room.

Pretty crazy. If only I could find it.
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>>140866907

Nah
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>>140866974
It ain't on Exhentai?
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Does Haruno know that Yukino swallowed her feelings and is just going to sit in a corner while 8man dates Nanigahama-chan?

>>140866973
Nothing really. I am just saying she drops 8man for a reason and genuine might be that reason.
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Just how many Sensei clones are there?
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>>140867244

> Does Haruno know that Yukino swallowed her feelings and is just going to sit in a corner while 8man dates Nanigahama-chan?

She does.
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>>140867305
u know, Yukino should get a hair cut to position herself from the clones while representing her resolution to change to aggressive
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>>140867397

She'll probably just tie her hair up like her mom and start wearing a kimono.
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>>140867444
pony is cute though, no too long like Saki
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>>140867334
I can't imagine she is happy with that.

Maybe it would have been for the best if Yukino liked Hayama and ANOTHER was with her and Hayama rather than what these recipes imply.
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>>140851898
Is Volume R a side story?
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>>140868225

> I can't imagine she is happy with that.

Undoubtedly she isn't, but she doesn't seem to show it directly.

> Maybe it would have been for the best if Yukino liked Hayama

I don't think that would help any in terms of Yukino's issues. Because all she'd have to do is sit back and let her mom make it happen.
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>>140851898
>10.5 OVA pics released
And yet no one posted shit. Great job OP
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>>140868409

They've been posted before already.

I'm sure some Irohafag will be by promptly, don't worry.
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>>140868278
Alternate timeline.
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>>140868409
can you not even look them up yourself

http://5pb.jp/games/oregairu/product/#gentei
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>>140868391
Maybe HayamaxYukino happens because Yukino never manages to break away from it and lets it happen. 8manxYui was the same thing. Hopefully someone else steps up for her in ANOTHER's universe but I don't discount the possibility of WA2 in the future.

I just wanted her to have a happy end in ANOTHER because that would mean Yui gets a happy end in the main series.

The first spoilers posted
>Yui end confirmed, she gets her Hikki on her route and Yukinon is her BFF. Yukino supports YuiHachi. No HayaYuki from what it seems
Looks like they were right but didn't have the subtleties. I wish the recipes didn't exist.
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>>140869128
i want to see Saika nipples
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>>140856157
>>140856200
>>140856254
I thought ANOTHER was a happy end.
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>>140869128
>PlayStasion

That's some next level engrish if they can't even spell it right
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is every normal teen boy going to seduce by as a hottie like Yui?

>>140869799
>trying hard to squeeze out small boobs
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So ANOTHER isn't a happy end with glitter and sparkles? I thought the club stays intact and Yui wins without resistance while Yukino is okay with it.
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>>140869641
I don't know how to interpret them personally. I don't get why people are out of whack.
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Well I'm in desperate need of sleep, so I'll see you guys later, assuming that this thread will still be up.

Oh and here is some more Sensei for you guys
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>>140871407
Sensei is an old woman that's well past her expiration date.

No one will ever marry her. She's going to die alone.
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>>140856721
This got me thinking, can Yukino and Yui ever be happy together or is the 8man thing too much of a wall?
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Who is cutest boy and why is it Tobe? Saika is not a boy
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>Yukino chooses friendship over 8man and helps Yui get Hikki for her happy end
If it happened once it can happen again. Yukinofags are completely blown out by ANOTHER.
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>>140867305
Sensei = Yukino = Rumi
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Wasn't volume 12 predicted to come out last year December? What the fucking hell
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>>140871794
I say iroha is the cutest boy
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>notice yahari thread is there again
>take a look into it to check the developments
>see shitposters fighting over which waifu is better as usual

EVERY TIME
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>>140871794
Sagami is cute!
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>>140874760
red bitch is not cute
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>>140874748
Every time indeed
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>>140874748
To be fair the AU spinoff just ended.

Good thing Yui won this. She will ride to momentum into a perfect win in the main series.
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>>140874852
You are wrong
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>>140874748
Don't forget endlessly debating about the same few thems and hidden messages
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>>140874907
why the fuck have u done to yui, i cant forget this
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>>140875020
*themes
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>>140875012
fake lens and make-up tricks

>not genuine
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>>140874907
Add in Saika sucking a giant dong, Sensei being a needy shit and the most obscure secondary girl with hipster glasses and it would be perfect.
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>>140874949
Yukinofags have all an hero'd. Losing ANOTHER so easily hurt them, they spent weeks explaining why Yui would lose somehow but it didn't happen. Yukino doesn't even like him in ANOTHER.
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>>140875020
Genuine....?
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>>140875144
Hopefully there are a few around. I still haven't been given an apology for they way they have been flaming me.
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>>140852898
Scanning. It's late so I'll just upload the afterword today
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>>140856254
-- translation by FatFluffyFish
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>>140875832
Thanks my man, that seems like a lot of work. Is it true that Yui gets her perfect win and people are just shitposting about this shit tasting lining?
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>>140875832
Did Watari say anything interesting?
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>>140875832
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What happened to Iroha in ANOTHER ?
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>>140876082
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Sensei or Haruno?
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>>140876088
the same, irrelevant and ignored
>>140876082
i can see it now
a n o t h e r
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>>140876088
>>140854965
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>>140851898
Where are the 10.5 pics?
And I´m more stoked for more Iroha.
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>>140874760
Worst girl. Not just because she's a bitch, but because she's a flaming loser.
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Why is the art so garbage in R
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>>140876082
>>140876107
WW seems like a bit of a fag.
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>>140876107
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>>140863001

There are some eerie things about Hayama and Yukino in the LN main series. When Yukino was talking about career paths and how Yukino's and Hayama's family had need for two different skill sets Hachiman said he thought of something horrible. Then there is when Iroha said she was sure Yukino would go right to work after finishing university, but Yukino was flustered and gave hints something else was possible. Then we have the Yukinoshita limo slowly driving by Hachiman after Yukimom met them at Yukino's apartment, and Hachiman felt like he was being scoped out. Isn't it possible Yuki-mom might be appalled at the idea of her daughter getting close with a middle class seedy eyed schmuck, and so push arranged marriage? that maybe this is possibility hanging over Yukino's head and for which she wonders if there could be escape?
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>>140876518
inb4 Hayama/Yukinoshita families have Yakuza ties

WW pls
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>>140876601
oi, where do you get this? seriously
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>>140876702
>>140876601
Nisekoi has already been done, wasn't saying it would go in that direction. Just that main story has some weird bits in it that seems like Yukino has something holding her down
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>>140876518
I mostly meant the ANOTHER speculation. But yeah, Hayama is definitely involved in what has been eating Yukino.

>>140876862
>seems like Yukino has something holding her down
Yup. Hopefully they split 8man and Yukino up for good. 8man learns a good life lesson and so does Yukino.
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>>140876862
that yakuza ties in nisekoi is for giggles
they may have politic power or education power like fuck 8man college choice if he fucks Yukinon?
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>>140876898
not good enough, Yukino needs to go for what she wants, and grab her future by the horns and that includes Hachiman's horn. Imagine her back to her season 1 aggressiveness and competitiveness, but this time in romantic matters as well has standing up to family. A Haruno without the fascade
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>>140877021
8man is not among the things she wants. I think she will get better and grab what she wants but it won't include 8man. ANOTHER showed that what she wants isn't 8man since she helped Yui get him.
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>>140876958
Well, for main series Hachiman does have one ally on Yukinoshita family side who ships the YukinoXHachiman. So I think that will play a part in the battle to come.
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>>140877066
ANOTHER can't really be used as argument for anything in main series, everyone is so out of character. It is clear in main series Yukino very much wants Hachiman.
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seriously, i hope there is arc (preferably final arc) on eloping
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>>140877148
With Hayama, against he family's wishes she will become an item with Hayama. Hikki will elope with Yui.

>>140877141
> It is clear in main series Yukino very much wants Hachiman.
I don't see it. The fact that ANOTHER is over and it proves Yukino doesn't like him in it reflects that she doesn't in the main series.

Even if she has a little crush on him it will matter not since their life paths will be different.

>>140877093
Haruno sees 8man as a tool to get her will done. Unless she wants Yukino to be with 8man earnestly then she won't have a real hand in it.

Also you are forgetting Haruno is a puppet to Yukino's mother even worse than Yukino. Haruno won't defy Yukimom.
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>>140877148
that would be awesome except they couldn't get married, under 21 you need parental permission in Japan! One thing they *could* do together is ruin attractiveness of Yukino for any use in marriage by traditional Japanese standards the wealthy/powerful still have over there. Make Yukino thoroughly Hachi-used goods.
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Can't wait for Watari make ANOTHER 2.0 with Iroha route
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>>140877297
> using ANOTHER to argue about motivations in the main series

try harder, troll
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>>140877399
ANOTHER triggers you too much Yukinofag. Yui won so cleanly and perfectly. Even Yukino got a really good end in it.
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>>140877312
>under 21
>miss by 1 on purpose

Yukinofags always amaze me how they twist the truth slightly just to fit their own interest.
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>>140877440
I get that you want to capitalize on whatever you can at this point but those two points are irrelevant.

AU is literally alternate universe. Meaning that it's different characters with different thoughts and feelings. You can't use one reality as an example to predict the alternate.
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>>140877521
Yeah you can. I just did and I will do it again. You can't say there isn't a single kernel of truth in ANOTHER.
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>>140877573
>You're wrong because I said so
I think we're done here.
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>>140877666
I still don't think 8man is part of Yukino's motivation to grab what she wants.
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>>140877312
they dont about the used good really, it is the family ties they want. They can announce widely the used good reputation but 8man wouldn't so bad to hurt a girl
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>>140851898
Guys, what if we get trolled and Totsuka wins the 8-bowl?
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>>140878005
this is not trolled, is a friendship end
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>>140877297
>against he family's wishes she will become an item with Hayama.
Yukimom would bend over backwards for Yukino if she thought for a second that Yukino wanted Hayama. Yukimom thinks Yukino is keen on some fag so she is not cool with it.
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>>140875125
Here senpai
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>>140878160
sakifag discovered
and Saika is not gay, he is just confused from 8inch
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>>140878066
How can Yukimom and Haruno tell so easily that Yukino likes 8man? Yuimom doesn't even know Yui likes 8man and Komachi has no clue who 8man likes.

>>140878337
What ever happened to those theories that Saika liked Yui?
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>>140878337
It's supposed to represent their fans.
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They can take our lands but theyll never take, Iroha!
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>>140878523
IrohaxTobe
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We already know they're going to get together, but here's the real question: Are they going to fuck?

I'm not talking about straight-up smut like SAO, but with how much detail the author put into showing the sexual attraction between them, there's a reasonable expectation for canon sex.

The problem is, of course, that this is Japan we're talking about. Do you guys think Toradora (which really had nothing in terms of sexual tension compared to this) was better or worse off with the sex?
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>>140878523
Realistically speaking, Iroha isn't even really in the ball.. 8Man has no reason to like her to begin with.
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So is YY 3P out of the question?
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>>140879097
You mean other than enjoying her company, having a lot of respect for her as a person, and regularly describing her as seductive?
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>>140879095
8man will just gently walk her home[\spoiler]
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>>140879138
Yes, based on the way the date ended.

Oddly enough, yuri is still on the table though.
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>>140879192
He admires her character and he finds her attractive, but that isn't really ''bowl winner'' material. Its really obvious 8-man will end up with yuki or yui.. or we might just get a troll ending with Tohtska.
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>>140879224
>Yes, based on the way the date ended.
How so? 3P seemed more open than ever. ANOTHER seems to hurt its chances.
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>>140879271
>but that isn't really ''bowl winner'' material
So she's not cliche enough?
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>>140879358
Its not about being cliche per se, its the level of investment Hachiman puts into the relationship. He does have his moments with Iroha, thats a given, its just not enough to overtake his relationship with yui or yuki. The only way i could see Iroha working out is if she joins the club and they 'build' more on the character dynamic.. but even then its kind of a stretch.
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>>140879358
8man doesn't care about her all that much. It takes two to tango.
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>>140879337
The date had negative results for every involved party and they had to have a serious discussion and rethink their course of action at the end of it. If 3p were a possibility I would expect the 3p date to be portrayed positively.
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>>140879432
I think Iroha has a chance if the club completely burns to the ground and 8man is scared. Yui and Yukino won't meltdown that badly though.
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>>140876088
I heard someone say she ends up with yukino for a yuri end.
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>>140879578
Well yes, if her two rivals die then obviously she'd be the default bowl winner if 8man still wants to be in a relationship at that point. Which i sincerely doubt.
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>>140879637
I don't mean die, that's silly. I meant that the fallout from the love triangle drama ruins the club then Iroha has an opening. 8man will be wounded and YY will be crippled.
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>>140879745
Not likely, in that scenario 8man will probably not want to be in relationship. Because he will think in typical 8-Man fashion that he ''RUINS EVERYTHING'' because the dude is so hyper aware of all the circumstances surrounding him he always seems to take responsibility when shit hits the fan, even when it isn't his fault.
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>>140879432
>its the level of investment Hachiman puts into the relationship
>'build' more on the character dynamic..
Please take a Literature course or something. Jesus fucking christ.

>>140879437
>8man doesn't care about her all that much
Now that's just factually wrong.
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>>140879934
Yeah, because he sure thinks about Iroha when she isn't right in his face bothering him. 8man does not care about Iroha nearly on the same level as he cares about Yui and Yukino.
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>>140879934
Would you like to explain why i need a ''literature course'' Or are you just going to make a statement without qualifying it in any way shape or form?
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>>140879934
>>its the level of investment Hachiman puts into the relationship
So what is wrong with that statement? 8man hasn't really tried on his personal relationship with Iroha. He is heavily invested in Yui and Yukino as he has tried and tried for them.

>>140879993
That is what he does, he is just a shipper. Things he disagrees with are just met with insults.
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>>140879873
So he would exile himself from love if his relationship with YY goes sour? That makes sense with him actually. I wonder if he could sacrifice himself ahead of time to prevent it.
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>>140880085
Of-course he would, we're talking about Mr.I confess to a girl i don't like so someone else doesn't have to. Which is sad. I like Iroha, i just think she was introduced too late in the series. I think she would had a legitimate chance if she was introduced in the beginning.
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>>140879979
Why would 8man need to worry about Iroha? She comes straight to him whenever she needs help and he knows it. The club on the other hand is in a constant state of fucked because nobody can communicate properly or 8man doesn't even give them the chance.
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>>140880183
Because Iroha's and 8man's relationship would be over if she stopped coming to him and there is more evidence he would welcome it than not.

This isn't about YY, this is about how Iroha has no shot of getting with 8man.
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>>140880176
>we're talking about Mr.I confess to a girl i don't like so someone else doesn't have to.
He learned his lesson, he promise Yui ad Yukino he would be a god boy. I wonder if they would take him back if he did something that stupid again.
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>>140880320
>he promise Yui ad Yukino he would be a god boy.
he promised Yui and Yukino he would be a good boy.*
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>>140879993
Because not only are you introducing requirements that don't exist to simple romantic development, you're also using literary terms in a completely ignorant fashion because of your lack of knowledge on the subject.

>'build' more on the character dynamic
What the fuck is this supposed to even mean, and why is it relevant to the character's romantic development? Why are you using apostrophes in place of quotation marks? Why are you using partial ellipses for no reason? I don't think you've finished secondary school, let alone had any further education on the subject being discussed.

>>140880044
See above. I don't feel like being roped into explaining the most simplistic shit by an obvious underageb&.
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Anyone played the VN?
Is it any good?
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>>140880252
>and there is more evidence he would welcome it than not.
Such as what?
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>>140880475
Investing in a relationship and working on it isn't part of a simple romantic relationship? Thanks, now I know that that isn't part of the equation.
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>>140880581
>discussing development
>get response about relationships
Wew lad.
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>>140877440
>Yui won so cleanly and perfectly
With every single thing in her favor and no mistakes the most Yui got out of it was holding 8man's hand.
She's screwed.
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>>140881208
Read the recipes. It wasn't clean or perfect. 8man just doesn't notice it.
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I believe one of the biggest reasons for iroha's big following and belief is due to the title of the series.

depending on whether the title refers to the series as a whole or just 8man's thinking, iroha's got a decent chance.

if it was in any other series, iroha would still be well liked but wont be considered as a candidate because of how late she came in.
or if she still did win in the end, people would get mad and yell "asspull", "troll ending", "shit writer".

as it is, WW got a good leeway to do it without making too many people upset.
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The only thing that can make the ending shit would be if Yukino cuts her hair. I would be able to accept anything else
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>>140875012
Translation?
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>>140876127
Sensei, obviously
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http://www.bilibili.com/video/av4505617/
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"PREPARE YOUR ANUS HIKIGAYA!!!!!"
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>>140884914
>revealing that section
DELETE THIS
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"Senpaiiiiii, come into the pool with me"
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〔Vita〕(通常版)やはりゲームでも俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続【布ポスターパック】
http://imagineweb.shop25.makeshop.jp/shopdetail/000000005231/ct338/page1/recommend/
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>>140881742

She's popular because a segment of the fanbase really likes her. That's all there is to it.

If she pulled off some miracle upset in vol 12 then you can be sure there'd be no end to accusations that the end is an asspull.
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>>140862911
Proof for keeping bitches away from her property.
>>140863593
She trolled him. He thought she was going to punch him, reeled back, and she took advantage of his momentary blindness to steal his lips. Checkmate, Hikio.
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>>140885303
>pool
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>>140885642
Virtually every new girl in various harems grow a fanbase that like said girl. There will be people who will want the girl to win but deep down they know she's just flavor and wont win.

The difference in this case though, is that thanks to the title, its LESS of an asspull if it does happen.

"Romance was wrong as expected".

Plus of course, the fact that she's remained prominent consistently since her introduction, compared to the other girls like saki, elbina, miura, etc. that just pop up and occasionally do something important in the volume.
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>>140881742
She's popular because at least she's trying something.
YYYY's relationships with 8man have been stagnant as fuck since forever.
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>>140886115
I'm talking more about the likelihood she actually wins. It's one thing to be popular and liked, its another if she has a chance.
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>>140886115
>>140886224
I mean if you look at plenty of other LN or harem, there's usually the girl that has the most fans out of the rest while the main girl usually has the least, but still wins.

Yahari's one of the few series that could break away from the usual cliche(i.e. yukino winning) so other girls have a chance, depending on how literal the title can be taken.
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>>140884914
>Iroha route has lewds and memes
I'm not surprised in any way shape or form.
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>>140886363
You're saying that like it's a bad thing.
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>>140886078

It's been said a thousand times, but if you're staking anything on the title of the series, which can be interpreted MANY different ways, then you're not standing on very much.
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>>140861652
So Totsuka was a girl all along?
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>>140879095
Didn't QUALIDEA have a sex scene?
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>>140880479
Not bad, but not good either

It doesn't even have a preggers end like all the other harem anime based VNs

If you were talking about the 2nd VN though then you gotta wait for it to be released first
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>>140884914
>that special feeling meme

PERFECT
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>>140879578
Yui might have meltdown, it was very hard to make her even agree to visit the club again when she thought Yukino was dating Hachiman. And she was so happy and relieved when learning they were not
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>>140879578

Iroha's only chance is for sloppy seconds in the event that Yukino and Hachiman break up at the end of senior year to go separate ways.

In a straight up competition with Yukino she will get completely BTFO. That's why her best chance is to sidestep it and hope to jump in on the rebound with a grief-stricken Hachiman.
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I wonder how things would've went down had Yumiko chose not to wear panties that day.
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>>140890279

> had Yumiko chose not to wear panties that day.

I'm sure she's already tried that in the past and it didn't work on Hayama so she has no reason to not wear them.
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>>140890320
True, but like I said, I'm curious as to what would've happened if she decided to go without panties, regardless of her reasoning.
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>>140890279
>going commando
Yumiko is a bitch, not a slut.
Actually, there aren't any sluts in Oregairu, right?
Sensei doesn't count. She went out with male sluts in the past, she wasn't one.
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>>140890595
Iroha "Hangs out with random boys on weekends" Isshiki.
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>>140890595

> there aren't any sluts in Oregairu, right?

Only one, but I don't know if sucking old man dick for money really makes Iroha a slut. She is poor and desperate for cash after all.
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>>140890595
Nigga, I'm just discussing hypotheticals here.
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>>140890595
<spoiler>Yukino, Yui and Iroha please old men for meny.</spoiler>
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>>140890279
No difference other than 8man being about 10x more shocked and confused. He would probably think Yumiko was a pervert and lose some amount of respect for her.
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>>140889016
Is that a roll of makizushi in her mouth? What the fuck, nips
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>>140882929
"I'm worst girl."
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>>140890595
>Yumiko
>bitch

Just cause she thinks a creep is a creep and she doesn't like Yukino does not mean she is a bitch
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>>140892443

She has shown bitch-ness to Yui also.

There is more to her than a bitch, sure, but a bitch she remains.
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>>140892493
And Saki.
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>>140892539
Saki only gets nasty when people bother her, she doesn't order people around and doesn't expect things from others. She is superior to Yumiko
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>>140893007
Saki is poor and probably fucks old men for money. She can't even cook right.
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>>140893125
Well at least she can cook at all.
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>>140893125
At least she makes some pretty kickass Rice Krispies treats, can Yumiko do that?
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>>140893827

She actually makes simmered taro balls. Commie made up the rice krispies treat thing.
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>>140893125
No, she likely fucked Yuu though, who left her and broke her heart and made her cold and grumpy. The blace lace panties are symbolic, lost virginity
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>>140878066
No, Haruno already has said she has what it takes, the negotiation skills, to deal with her mother while Yukino does not.

You'll note Haruno even while being made to stay at Yukino's apartment let Yukino go home with Yui, and she even knew Hachiman was there. That's not behavior of someone who is merely Yuki-mom's lackey. It is clear Haruno wants the YukinoXHachiman, but with Yukino having dealt with two big problems she has.
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>>140896146

> Haruno even while being made to stay at Yukino's apartment let Yukino go home with Yui

Did she really "let" her go? Not that I think she had a problem with it, but Yukino was already over there and wasn't even going to call for approval until Hachiman told her to. And the reason she knew Hachiman was there was because Yukino had called her and repeated his words like a robot.
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>>140878370

> How can Yukimom and Haruno tell so easily that Yukino likes 8man?

I imagine the number of boys in Yukino's life has been incredibly tiny. There was Hayama way back in elementary school and in the present when she's forced to be with him. And now there's Hachiman. It doesn't take a genius to realize the boy must mean something special to Yukino.

Also Haruno has magical powers. She is almost inhuman in her ability to accurately deduce deep rooted character traits off the flimsiest of evidence.
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>>140896377
Indeed, that Yukino would be hanging out in a mall, with a guy who gave her a pan-san plushie....
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>>140877445
eh, how does it matter if it's 20 or 21, they're both 17! Yuifags so pathetic when they know their ship is heading straight for the iceberg (or should we say the Yuki-berg) in main series
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>>140896532

Haruno is aware that Yukino doesn't actually have feelings for 8man at that early point. But she is just fucking with them because 8man is useful to her. All of a sudden, Yukino is spending time with a guy (regardless of the reason). This is something Haruno can use, much more usefully than the cat videos the loner Yukino spends all her time at home watching.

When Yukino does start to develop real feelings for 8man, Haruno is aware of them from the instant they begin and she knows every level of them all the way.
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>>140897470
sure I agree she did not have romantic interest at that time, but Yukino did find him interesting enough even at that point to shop with him and do some "hanging out" type things. That was out of character for loner Yukino, and you'll note she blushed when she asked Hachiman to "go out with her" though it was for gift for Yui. Unnatural act for her.
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Maybe in a couple years Yukino develops like her older sister. Or maybe the fan artist for this just sees everything with rose colored glasses. Well, I'm mainly interested in good portrayals of Yukino thighs and buns
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>>140853085
Is liking Irohasu a meme? I'm watching season 2 and I can't stand this stupid incompetent bimbo. I'd rather have Orimoto be in 8man's school and run for student council pres, would be a lot more fun as far as harems go.
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>>140901161
>I'd rather have Orimoto be in 8man's school.

inb4 Doujin based on that idea.
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>>140901161
>Is hating Irohasu a meme? I'm reading these threads and I can't stand all the stupid incompetent haters. I'd rather have Orimoto be in 8man's school and replace the service club, would be a lot more fun as far as harems go.
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>>140901161
>Orimoto be in 8man's school and run for student council pres, would be a lot more fun as far as harems go.

Orimoto should win.
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No spoilers for now?
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Is sensei a virgin?
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>>140902042
Yes.
Will she give her virginity to 8man?
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>>140901719

Spoilers for what?
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>>140902042
>>140902172

While I doubt that Sensei is a virgin, 8man will lose his virginity to Sensei within minutes of graduating from Sobu
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>>140901719
Nope, just relentless shitposting and waifufagging as usual.
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>>140854965
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>>140902267
It is the destiny of every christmas cake sensei to be impregnated by their favorite male student.
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>>140901719
ANOTHER spoilers?
Yui gets 8man and wins the 8bowl
Yukino gives Yui an assist when Haruno is starting shit
Yukino and Iroha are gay for eachother
Haruno is done with 8man

And it is revealed that Yukino liked 8man but swallowed her feelings to give Yui that assist and Yui knows that Yukino likes him. Read these
>>140856157
>>140856200
>>140856254
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>>140902427
That's what I like to see. Post more Yukinon.
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>>140855325
JUST
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>>140902499
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>>140902042
No, a couple times she complained about live-in boyfriends and the sad endings to those situations. One guy left her and took her furniture. She's used goods, but is that a bad thing. Wouldn't an experienced girl have more pleasuring skills?
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>>140902353
There's no leglocking or kissing or declarations of love or even impregnation, poor portrayal of their relationship.
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>>140902421
Yukino will be swallowing something else in the main series
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>>140902745
that's just one of Hachiman's wet dreams. He really needs to stop eye raping Yukino, he's getting his head full of weird ideas.
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>>140902884
I'm talking about Iroha and Tobe, not 8man and the Sensei clone that got all the recessive genes
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>>140902884
Yukino was the one eye raping him.

>>140902582
See? Yukino didn't let him kiss her. Definitely no feelings. Yui would already have pinned him down at that point.
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>>140902421
>And it is revealed that Yukino liked 8man but swallowed her feelings to give Yui that assist and Yui knows that Yukino likes him. Read these
What the fuck? That is depressing. I sure hope that part of the spoilers are fake. If I were a Yukinofag I would be pissed.
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>>140903066

> If I were a Yukinofag I would be pissed.

It's just the 'bad end' for Yukino. Whereas the main story is likely to be the 'good end' for her.
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>>140903066
no need to get pissed, ANOTHER isn't canon. It's Watari just making a fan fiction of his own work for fun, not to be taken too seriously since all the characters are acting abnormally
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>>140903361
Totsuka is cute but Yukino is stealing the limelight there
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>>140903454
You should probably delete your post quickly senpai
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>>140903150
Are we sure of that? Another might be Yukino's bad end but that only means that the main series is Yui's bad end. Yui's win was perfect only on the surface so Yukino's win may only be good on the surface.
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>>140903454
>Confusing the worst character of Raildex with the worst character of Yahari

Just shows how much anime you watch.
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>>140903454

>Totsuka is cute but Yukino is stealing the limelight there

that's not yukino

yukino is so generic and unremarkable that yukinofags can't even recognize her from the other carbon copies of her lmfao
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>>140903454
>Yukino
What?
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>>140903579

> Are we sure of that?
Pretty much, yeah.

Yui's end was "perfect on the surface" because of Yukino's state. Main story is like to be a "bad end" for Yui, which means her friendship with Yukino ends and she leaves the club.
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>>140903556
>>140903630
>>140903648
spot the dolts
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>>140903711

>I was just pretending to be retarded
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>>140903454
>yukino
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>>140903638
To be fair there are too many Yukino clones in the world, someone is bound to slip up.
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>>140903744
>I can't remember one of the oldest jokes in these threads
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>>140903556
>>140903630
>>140903638


you guys will probably also complain about this heartwarming picture of happy Yukino and Max Coffee swilling Hachiman in the hall
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>>140890970

>those failed spoilers

kys
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>>140903898
>ahoge

That's obviously an older Komachi who has grown her hair out
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>>140903898
Nice streaming quality of a shit show.
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>>140903711
>>140903556
>>140903630
>>140903648

you kind would likely get jealous of my St. Patrick's Day Edition Yukino figurine too
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>>140903680
I am saying that the main series isn't Yukino's guaranteed win, it is only Yui's guaranteed bad end. Yukino's end might only be nice on the surface too if we are using that logic.
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>>140904119

If it's like Yui's, then it'll only be 'bad' in the sense that the other girl aka Yui is worse off and she loses a friend.

Most Yukinofags can live with that. Because unlike ANOTHER, it'll be genuine at least.
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>>140903898
How about that time Yukinon dealt with her family problems?
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>>140903266
>.5 volumes aren't canon
>ANOTHER isn't canon

what is your next move? vol 12 isn't canon?
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>>140879578
Iroha's going to marry into the family through Komachi though
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Why would Watari spend months damage controlling a main story ending most people had already figured out if the girl who wins in the main story won pretty much all of the character polls?
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>>140904312
If Yukino doesn't win, it's not canon.
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>>140904404

> Why would Watari spend months damage controlling a main story ending

Because it helps sell BDs? Don't overthink it, m8.
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It would appease everyone if Saika won.
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>>140904404
The main series will have a downer end so he made ANOTHER have a perfect happy end where nothing is wrong with the three and they are together.
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>>140904633

> nothing is wrong

We know that isn't true. Look at the recipes posted above.
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>>140904230
It kind of defeats the purpose of the story but I wish the author told us if she really did it or not.
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>>140904174
Yui and Yukino's friendship breaking up is a bad end no matter what happens with 8man. Even if it is genuine.

If Yui and Yukino's friendship break up in the main series does that mean they could have never become friends to begin with? Or is it just that pesky 8man that ruined it?
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>>140904633
>Downer end

Hachiman ends up as a loner and hangs himself after graduating college because he didn't find the genuine
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>>140904858
It means that Yui can be Yukino's friend as long as she gets Hachiman, but she can't be Yukino's friend when she doesn't get Hachiman.
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>>140904858

It's not a 'bad end' for Yukino if she stops being friends with Yui. Because 'bad end' for her has to do with her personal issues, not her friendship with Yui or even really a romance with Hachiman.

Romance with Hachiman is only a factor when you consider what she desires. If she wants the 8inch, she has to go for it. Anything less is a bad end for her.
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>>140904776
I don't consider the recipes canon to ANOTHER. They reflect a reality where Yukino is still fucked up, Yukino still likes 8man, Yui knows that she is NTRing her friend, and that Yui was never into this for anything more than 8man. I don't like that, it tastes bad.
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>>140904992

Well I do consider delusion a valid form of coping with the way a series end. That's how I dealt with Haganai.
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>>140904312

those alternate universe stories have characters that act differently than canon storyline. deal with it.
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>>140904312
Watari himself in the aferword of volA said to not consider Another canon.
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>>140904922
The recipes make me think that a rift may develop between Yui and Yukino. But maybe not and that will be the end of it.

>>140904991
So Yukino's bad end = issues not dealt with
Yui's bad end = no Hikki as BF

Yukino will be sad if she loses her friend over some guy.
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>>140904992
but those monologues are in ANOTHER, right in the choco-event. they are ANOTHER canon. That's the whole point of ANOTHER, things that superficially look good aren't underneath. Not genuine. Yui is the wrong choice.
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>>140905236

> Yukino will be sad if she loses her friend over some guy.
Sure. And even 8man would be sad to see Yui go. But people get hurt, that's life. Yui will tough it out.

> Yui's bad end = no Hikki as BF
Yes and also not having Yukino as a friend.

Yui's "happy ending" is when they're all together as she desires, even if it's fake, even if it's not genuine.
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>>140901161
>people can't possibly disagree with my opinions, it must be a meme
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>>140903638
>yukino clones
That would imply Yukino did something original.
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>>140905286
Without them Yui's end is perfect. Yukino has no issues and stays her friend, she gets her Hikki in a sweet way, and no one is sad.

Remember, in ANOTHER Yukino makes her own decision to help Yui out with 8man. That is like grabbing what she wants, a happy Yui/
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>>140905768
Not at all. It just shows that Yukino is a real friend. Whereas in the main series Yui is going to leave them, because she doesn't get Hachiman as her boyfriend.
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i bet iroha is the only good fuck. the other girls probably just lay there and do nothing.
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>>140905768

I understand. Keep swimming in the sweet sweet waters of delusion. It's ok, nothing is wrong. Nothing is the matter with Yukino. She's fine, she loves her friend Yui. She is supportive of her and Hachiman. She never felt anything for the boy she said "help me someday" to.
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>>140905902
Well, Iroha does have a lot of experience.
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>>140905320
Yeah but isn't it nicer to keep people you care about?

> even if it's fake, even if it's not genuine.
8man isn't wise to what is going on so he can't see it as fake. And the end of the day this end makes 8man happy.

>>140905831
I think it is stronger evidence that Yukino can do things if it is to help other people but not for herself. Giving Yui the assist is Yukino helping someone else.
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>>140905902

If it's like everything else in the series that involves physical effort, Yukino will be mindblowingly amazing, the greatest lover to ever walk the earth.

For like five minutes. Then she'll be worn out and can't go on.
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>>140905946

> Yeah but isn't it nicer to keep people you care about?

Not if you have to lie and pretend something that isn't true.
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If Yukino liked 8man in ANOTHER doesn't that cheapen Yukino's romance flags in them? She ends up liking him anyway's.
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>>140906085
Yukino liked Hachiman before volume 10, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>140905902
But is 8man a good fuck?
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>>140905991
If she became that incredible I doubt someone would be able to lost much longer than her.
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>>140906085
>romance flags

Which are?
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>>140906310
I'd probably nut in her like 5 times under 3 minutes while looks at me all smug like and says how much she's better at sex than me and then proceeds to ride me for two more minutes.
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>>140906249
Built for breeding
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>>140906247
I'd imagine he would, I mean shit what else is there for him to do at home?

I mean shit, he may be a loner, but he could still know plenty of things about sex, might even have some condoms in his bag in the event that he has sex, however unlikely.
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>>140906249
>>140906461
Periodic reminder that Saki's just the author rendering a teenage mother into a form palatable to otaku.
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>>140906183
>>140906370
People were convinced that Yukino figures out she likes 8man because of the infirmary scene. She likes him in ANOTHER and knows it but did not have that scene with him, another girl did. Yukino spends almost no time with him and isn't much of a character but at the end of the day she ends up liking him still.

Basically I am saying that flags are meaningless for her feelings, probably Yui's too. I think it is bizarre and not along with most romances if there are no flags and she stil likes him.
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>>140906567
The infirmary scene isn't where Yukino realized she liked him. It's where she stopped suppressing her feelings.
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>>140906538
I think it depends on who he fucks. With Yukino and Yui he'd probably get all philosophical in the middle of the act and ruin it for both parties.
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>>140906044
8man likes Yui in ANOTHER
Yui likes 8man in ANOTHER

No lies there champ.

>>140905916
Yukino supported Yui of her own volition, Yui didn't solicit it. Yukino is Yui's friend and she enjoys her friendship.
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>>140906567
Yukino has liked 8man since he won her the Pan-san
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>>140906748

> No lies there champ.

Yukino likes Hachiman in ANOTHER. Yukino will never tell Hachiman how she feels. She'll bury it deep down. But don't take my word that there are lies in ANOTHER, just listen to Yukino,
> However, there is just one thing, there are lies mixed into it.
> For what the truth is worth, there is a spoonful of lies.

I'm sure when she saw Yui and Hachiman together, she was smiling.
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>>140906745
I don't see why he would get philosophical during the act, sure I can see him getting philosophical when he cums, but during? I don't think so.
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Erm..dying here,post more Saika
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> Yukino supported Yui of her own volition, Yui didn't solicit it. Yukino is Yui's friend and she enjoys her friendship.

Of course. Nothing is wrong. All is ok. Yukino never liked 8man. She never felt anything for 8man. She is happy for her friend and wishes her only the best. She's not burying her feelings under the snow. She. Is. Perfectly. Fine.
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>>140905916
>>for the boy she said "help me someday" to.
>Yukino is walking down the aisle marrying some guy her mother wants
>Haruno looks on coldly, Yukimom sharply
>Yukino isn't even bothering to smile
>She just can't stop thinking about that wish that went unanswered
>She is hoping for an answer as the alter gets closer and closer
>She was stupid to ever have hoped for such a thing
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>>140906786
I doubt it. She was still a bitch to him for a good while. That Pan-san is just one of many.

>>140906719
She was suppressing them during the 3P date. Did you see the way she looked when Yui gave him cookies?
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>>140907032

Either that or 10+ years down the road Yukino is a chain smoking broken and bitter woman teaching high school.
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>>140906873
Those lies can refer to anything. It might just be her realizing her feelings for him are a lie. Her covering up her cracks is her not letting them know she is fucked up.

>I'm sure when she saw Yui and Hachiman together, she was smiling.
Well yeah, they are so happy together it is as if they only need eachother and she helped make it happen.

>>140907015
That is because Yukino is a good friend to both Yui and 8man.
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>>140907471

Well as I said earlier, I consider delusion a valid way to cope with an ending you don't like.

So keep on keeping on.
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>>140907007
Wondering about the genuineness of having sex with someone and whether it's just a biological compulsion and/or desire for physical pleasure sounds like a very 8man type of thing to do. "It feels good so who cares" is like the exact opposite of how he operates.
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>>140907563
Oh I agree, I was just saying that he would concentrate on the sex and not get all philosophical until after.
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A few anons were predicting that Yukino was not actually alright but would swallow her feelings and help Yuix8man anyways. I guess it was easy to see how it would go.
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>>140907563
Or he would spend the monologue making metaphors and references to other things and drawing them back to his current sexual situation. Like bringing up mollusks, for example.
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Maybe WW is trying to say that anything without genuine will be a farce of an end and that you can't prevent the love triangle from going down.
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>>140907015
>>140906873
That is a little soul crushing. Hopefully Yukino gets a better end in the main series and Yui won't have a bad end either.

Why are Yuifags all of the sudden so mad about the recipes? It gives a lot more depth to ANOTHER which was something they wanted.
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So why all this drama about a spinoff anyway? Is it because it prematurely spoiled that Yukino doesn't love 8man after all?
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>>140908533

> Why are Yuifags all of the sudden so mad about the recipes?

I guess some of them were attached to the notion that even if their Yui end wasn't "canon" it'll be "happier" than the main story. They felt that was the trade-off.
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>>140905991
She lasted longer than that in tennis match before stamina gave out. Twenty five minutes of mind blowing sex a night should be enough for any guy.
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>>140908563

> Is it because it prematurely spoiled that Yukino doesn't love 8man after all?

Quite the opposite. Not only does Yukino for-sure have feelings for 8man, she doesn't even need anything from vol 10 or 11 to have them.
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>>140908709
Where did it indicate she had any feelings? Her recipe was more about Yui than anyone else.
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>>140908833

At least try to be coherent in your shitposting. That doesn't even make any sense.
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>>140908876
You're saying she loves 8man even in ANOTHER where the infirmary scene never happened. I'm asking you where it shows that. The recipes, at the very least, give no indication of it being the case.
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>>140908972

If Yukino doesn't like 8man in ANOTHER, what are the lies she's putting into the chocolates? What is she covering up and burying under the snow? Why is she calling herself a coward right as she tells Yui to go for 8man?

Why is Yui talking about how it's "unfair, both for me and her". Why is she saying that it's "because of love that this unfairness even arose"?

Sorry man, Yukino likes Hachiman in ANOTHER. She likes him even with no infirmary scene. She has obviously liked him at least since she bought the photo of the two of them on the ride at the amusement park and probably earlier than that.

Yukino loves 8man. She wants the 8inch. But she is too much of a coward to stand up for what she wants in ANOTHER and 8man isn't bridging the gap to her in that volume. So she buries it, hides it, pretends it's not there. It is a devastating end for Yukino. Her problems still exist, they aren't being solved. She can't stand up for herself or what she wants. She is too much of a coward. She'll end up doing exactly what her mother wants her to do and probably crack somewhere down the road and have a meltdown.
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>>140907013
apologies, misread that as Saki
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>>140906567
Romance flag by itself is meaningless anyway like what happened during Kyoto trip. But, Yukino's feeling was indeed became more vocal during vol 10 (or 9, can't remember) regardless of when exactly she developed it.
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>>140909204
That depends, Yukino could ask her two friends for ideas and support to deal with her family and identity/direction issues anyways.
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>>140909338
Watari quite literally spells it out when Yukino's feelings for Hachiman started to sprout.
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>>140909338

Talking about romance flags like they're on/off switches for people's feelings is silly.

Yukino (and everyone) doesn't just fall in love in some singular moment. It develops over time. You might realize you do at a certain moment. In the main story, Yukino might have realized this about herself in the infirmary scene, but once she knew it, she knew she had really felt that way for a while.

In ANOTHER there was no infirmary scene. But by the time of the recipes, she had found it out all the same.
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>>140909391
Yeah I doubt it. Yukino doesn't matter in ANOTHER.
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>>140909391

She could, but it's more likely it'll just never come up. Hachiman/Yui will come to see Yukino doll-like following what mama wants as the way she really is. I see Yukino drifting apart from the other two over time.
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>>140908604
To the naked eye ANOTHER is happy. Yui gets 8man without drama and she keeps her friend, 8man gets a cute girlfriend and the club is still comfy, and Yukino keeps her friends and gets to watch them be happy without any bad fallout.
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Reminder that only Yui ever claimed to be a virgin, the accurate translation of Japanese used by Yukino are "I fear for my personal safety", she never mentioned being virgin. She and Hayama were fuckbuddies in middle school (which goes through what we'd call first year high school), but when their relationship was found out Hayama abandoned Yukino for the sake of his comfy clique at the time. Yukino then became jaded and cold to everyone. She uses closeness with Hachiman as a way to goad Hayama and no longer lets Hayama even use her first name.

Hachiman will be crushed when he finds out about this and the arranged marriage.
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>>140871457
She's going determinedly seduce 8man get him drunk a few times and become a mother.
she could pull off being a single mother for a while, at least until he can support her.
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>>140910090
Nah.
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>>140910314
Why would Sensei need to get 8man drunk?

All she needs to do, is show him how fun older women can be.
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>>140909204
>If Yukino doesn't like 8man in ANOTHER, what are the lies she's putting into the chocolates? What is she covering up and burying under the snow? Why is she calling herself a coward right as she tells Yui to go for 8man?

>I'd probably even accepted this cowardly side of me already.
>She is. My friend.
>Knowing this and yet trying to hide it, I think I am probably trying to push my feelings of guilt onto her.
Yukino explicitly says that she's hiding something from Yui, not 8man.

>Why is Yui talking about how it's "unfair, both for me and her". Why is she saying that it's "because of love that this unfairness even arose"?
Yui's one of main character flaws is projecting her own lack of self-esteem around her. In the main series she's convinced that Yukino loves 8man without ever actually having it confirmed. There's no reason why she wouldn't be any different here. It also bears an ironic accuracy to their actual situation, however.

>I can only do it up till this point, the rest depends on you.
This is spoken directly to Yui, but if Yukino loves 8man then saying this would be a direct admission of her feelings. If Yukino admitted feelings for 8man then she'd be contradicting the earlier lines about her lies and cowardliness, specifically about hiding something from Yui. So who is she referring to?

>What kind of conversation it was, with the exception of the two of us, there was no one else, not even him, who knows it.
8man's only reference in the entire recipe, which is about Yui, explicitly excluding him from a moment between Yukino and Yui.

>It's alright as long as you can smile even more brightly than during that time.
So who is 8man again? Watari isn't even being subtle at this point.

>Surely, this is the correct form.
Correct form vs Forbidden love. Another not-so-subtle reference.

Tl;dr, ANOTHER Yukino is gay.
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>>140910910

> ANOTHER Yukino is gay.

Fucking comical. At least you're not trying to somehow link her words to Hayama.

But if you are going this route, you might as well at least toss in the Yukino/Iroha thing for maximum shitposting.
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>>140910972
Wow, compelling arguments. You sure convinced me.
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>>140910910
>Yurinoshita confirmed
Based Watari.
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>>140910090
In middle school she was abroad, fucking autist.
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Another is Yui's good end and Yukino's normal end.
The main series will be Yui's perfect end and Yukino's bad end.
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>>140911013
Not him, but your arguments/points/whatever you want to call them were retarded as shit. He has no need to say anything else other than, well, what he said.
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>>140911013

You make the first compelling argument and then I'll reciprocate.

Forever people have tried to shitpost saying Yukino doesn't like 8man. Then her character song came out and made it crystal clear she does, so people invented the most ridiculous logical constructs to try and explain it away.

Now ANOTHER is over and even in that ending she unequivocally likes him. And you shitposters are reduced "She's just gay for Yui lol".

It's comical. Just give it up, man. She's going to be riding 8man's dick and you people will still find some absurd "argument" to claim she's not into him.
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>>140911013
Yukinofags have been destroyed by ANOTHER and are trying to find meaning where it doesn't exist. No matter how good your arguments are they won't listen. You will be lucky to get even memes out of them at this point.

>>140911193
Yukino was being a coward about her problems and was hiding them from Yui. This is true.
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>>140911193
Wow, compelling arguments. You sure convinced me.
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I read it he ends up with Miura
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>>140911261

> Yukinofags have been destroyed by ANOTHER

In case you haven't read this thread, ever since those recipes were translated it's been the Yuifags in meltdown. They wanted their fairytale ending and didn't get it.

Now they have a shitty ending that's not even canon, while Yukino will BTFO Yui in the real ending and they'll be left with nothing but their hands on their dicks.
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>>140911382
Dude just drop it. Yuifags are going to be absolute cancer for months. The only person to blame for this is Watari.
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>>140911431

Yeah you're right. There was actually some decent discussion with the Yuifags earlier, but now the recipes have processed through their minds and they realize what it actually means .
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>>140911431
>Yuifags are going to be absolute cancer for months

Was there ever a time that they weren't?
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>>140911556
That's kind of true, albeit a bit harsh. Then again, not entirely undeserved either.
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>>140911431
Yeah, not even the Irohafags will reach a level of cancer that the Yuifags are going to reach.
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>>140911253
I answered all your questions as well as pointed out blatant contradictions in your theory. In other words, you have been cleanly refuted. At this point the burden is on you to create a defense or find a new theory to argue, belligerence does you no favors.
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>>140911431
>>140911495
>>140911556
>>140911608
Dat damage control.
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So, can we all see now that creating an alternate universe, especially before releasing the conclusion to the main series first was a mistake? This is what Watari has made the fanbase wait an entire year for.
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>falling for bait
All of you are just as autistic as the girls you support, though I suppose we don't have anything better to do
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>Irohafags pretty much gone
>Yuifags settled down after being dropped out of the running with a consolation prize
>threads still completely shit

So by simple process of elimination, we can conclude that Yukinofags were the cancer all along.
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>>140911382
Yui got a happy end. She gets her Hikki and her Yukinon. Yukino is no longer weighed down by 8man but he is still her friend and has her friend Yui. 8man gets his Yui and doesn't have to suffer anymore. Yukino got a good end, 8man got a good end, and Yui got the best end possible. No amount of meme-ing will change that.
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>>140911771
The "Alternate Universe" was interesting, because it didn't really hold together as a universe- the conceit was that events would unfold, logically or not, to ensure a Yui end.

If that juxtaposes with the real ending in an interesting way, I'd call it a successful experiment.
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>>140911962
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, since Irohafags and Yuifags are very much prevalent. Oh, you're a Yuifag or Irohafag, that's why.
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>>140911495
What do they mean pray tell?
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>>140911970

> Yukino is no longer weighed down by 8man

She sure wishes she could be "weighed down" by him if you know what I mean.

I'm sure she'll call her best friend Yui up when she needs support after she's become a chain smoking high school teacher and is ashamed that her lonely ass is attracted to a high school boy.
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>>140911962
It took you that long? These are the same people that draw conclusions from a knee ache.
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>>140912014
>If that juxtaposes with the real ending in an interesting way, I'd call it a successful experiment.
Literally how. None of the characters in ANOTHER act the same. How is this anything other than just a bad idea.
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>>140911382
>Yukinofag in charge of not lying on the internet
The vast majority of complaints about ANOTHER are about it not being a good enough ending for Yukino.
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>>140912187

Well in Yukinofags defense, at least they aren't trying to alter any character's sexuality to explain shit they don't like.
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>>140912304

You're confusing "complaints" with pointing out facts.

ANOTHER is Yukino's bad ending. But it follows that the main story won't be. Yui on the other hand...
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>>140911771
I don't mind AU stuff, but doing one before finishing the story just seems like poor form in my opinion. Not only does it imply questionable priorities on the part of the author, it also causes people to make meta-assumptions regarding the primary material based on what that AU is about.

Though the series needs to actually end before any real conclusions can be made. For all we know Yui will win again and this has been one massive troll for people that do the above behaviors (IE everyone).
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Why are Yukinofags happy Yukino got a bad end? If Yui got one I would be livid no matter the universe. They care too much about those recipe whatevers, those don't reflect any part of ANOTHETR and may be part of the main series. Just live with the fact that Yukino got a pretty good end and Yui got a perfect end.
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>>140912384
They're not very strong """"""facts"""""" when even a yurifag can refute them.
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>>140912423

Yukino got an abysmal end. Yui got her "happy ending" but we now know what a crock that is for the not-genuine girl.
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>>140912295
No matter how things change the underlying theme is still the same. In ANOTHER is a non-genuine end where nothing was genuine.
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>>140911962
>Irohafags pretty much gone

You wish.
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>>140911962
>>140912507

Irohafags are still around. They've got their theory worked out on how Iroha will win the main series.

I will say, their arguments are better than what the Yuifags are cooking up at least.
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>>140912497
Yeah, that's great, but you can see that the fanbase isn't taking it like that. If it were up to me, the series would have been over by now and everyone could have moved on. But here we are a year later and still nothing.
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>>140912401
>I don't mind AU stuff, but doing one before finishing the story just seems like poor form in my opinion

It might reflect poorly on Watari's marketing sense, but it doesn't affect the work itself. Someone who reads it two years from now isn't going to stop at volume 11 and read ANOTHER.
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>>140912423
It's not a great ending for either one, their communication problem was clearly never resolved. It's not like they're not going to find happiness anyway, but it wasn't a true resolution and Watari probably intended it that way.

If anything ANOTHER was released early because they'll both probably be better off in the true end.
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>>140912472
>Yukino got an abysmal end
Yukino has friends, she gets to see 8man happy for once, and she is not left alone to rot. She gets to be in the same room with a happy Yui and 8man. That is a good end since she cares about them. She helped make it happen.

>" but we now know what a crock that is
How is it a crock? If 8man likes then it is good.

>the not-genuine girl.
Her moves aren't hard to read and she won't settle for something that only makes her happy.
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>>140911962
>Irohafags pretty much gone
no
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>>140912572
Who cares about fanbases? A work is a work.

>>140912630
I don't see how Yui will be better off unless she wins 8man this amazingly in the main series too. Yukino is better off without romance and 8man is better off without drama. ANOTHER is the nice end we get.
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>>140912647

> she won't settle for something that only makes her happy.

That's exactly what she settled for. And it's been obvious for a long time. This is the girl who said "I'd be fine with a lie" in her memorandum. She wants what she wants and doesn't care about anything else. As WW said, she turned out to be the cruelest of all.
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Am I the only senseifag in this thread?
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>>140912554
They're around, but it's precisely because their arguments are at this point unchallenged that they have no reason to post. The reason for the "never agrees" meme is because the moment a consensus happens the need for discussion disappears until new information appears.
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>>140912775
WW was just being cheeky "lel the opposite is the true lel" That isn't a fact, just a joke.

8man is happy in ANOTHER and Yui is making him happy. Yukino is happy too, like during vol 9.

Besides, Yui doesn't think Yukino likes him in ANOTHER and she thinks 8man likes her so she isn't doing something wrong.
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>>140912897

> their arguments are at this point unchallenged

Nah they were argued to death in threads yesterday to no resolution.
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>>140912908
>Yui doesn't think Yukino likes him in ANOTHER
Her recipe literally spells out that she is aware that Yukino has feelings for him as well.
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>ANOTHER was a happy ending

baka senpaikomachi
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>>140912908

> Yui doesn't think Yukino likes him in ANOTHER

She knows.

> It's unfair, for both me and her.
> However, it's because of love that this unfairness even arose.
> I want to keep loving you. Both me and my friend.
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>>140912742
Yui could pretty easily be better off in an ending where neither dates 8man. The Yukino-Yui friendship is equally if not more important than either girl's relationship with 8man.

Remember that they spend much, much more time together offscreen than 8man has spent with either one individually.
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>>140913045
Was just about to post this.
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>>140913049
>The Yukino-Yui friendship is equally if not more important than either girl's relationship with 8man.

That's where you're wrong. Yukino and Yui never talk about anything important. Their relationship is hollow.
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>>140913001
>>140913045
Yui is a good girl. She would have held back if she thought that. Yui held back in the main series. Keep grasping at straws.
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>>140913125
Fuck off Yuipollfag. Everytime you say Yui is a good girl, I know it's you.
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Yuifags should be pleased with the recipes and with Yui as a whole. I really don't understand why they're so adamant on challenging the recipes.

She is selfish, but love itself is selfish. Sometimes people get hurt. Even your friends can get hurt. It's very likely she will suffer the same in vol 12.

She is not some angel that floats above the clouds, perfect in every way, devoid of malice, jealousy or ill-will. She is portrayed as an actual human being who has to make choices that could hurt people one way or the other. So she makes them, and cowardly Yukino falls in line.

Yui knows about Yukino's feelings, but she doesn't know about the depth of Yukino's personal issues. Only a reader who has read ANOTHER and the main series knows about that. That's not her fault and you could argue that if she knew about it her behavior might be different. Perhaps that's why she acts the way she does in vol 11, where she does try to pry Yukino's feelings out.
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>>140913236
Still doesn't discredit my point. Why would Yui do something different?

>>140913045
>> I want to keep loving you. Both me and my friend.
I don't know what that means.
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>>140912983
Yeah, but it's to nowhere near the degree it was back when volume 11 came out and discussion was at its peak. People also sometimes go over old arguments just out of boredom or habit, just look at how many times /a/ has discussed Evangelion.
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>>140913368
Heh, I knew it was you.
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>>140913301
>cowardly Yukino falls in line
I see you, stealth Yuiposter
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>>140913441

> stealth Yuiposter

No. We're talking about ANOTHER here. Yukino is a coward and she gives up her feelings. That's exactly what happens.
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>>140913120
The story is from 8man's perspective, he can only make guesses at how their relationship is going.

If their relationship didn't matter then neither one would have any issue confessing.
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>>140913301
I think the difference is that she thinks 8man likes Yukino in the main story but doesn't think he does in ANOTHER.

>>140913491
8man ships them in his head, as far as he is concerned they are a push away from yuri. He values their friendship a lot.
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>>140913558

See >>140913045

Those statement are a more direction admission of knowing about Yukino's feelings than anything she has said in the main story so far. Even at the end of vol 11 she was more oblique than that.
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>>140913599
Well yeah it would be more direct and honest. It is her monologue after all. She is not one to step on necks for Hikki.
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>>140913800
>She is not one to step on necks for Hikki
But she did just that.
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>>140856157
>However, there is just one thing, there are lies mixed into it.
>For what the truth is worth, there is a spoonful of lies.

>The sugar falling down as I sprinkle them was just like the snow.
>They could probably cover up and hide just about everything.
>I think it's cowardly.
>I'd probably even accepted this cowardly side of me already.

>>140856200
>It's unfair, for both me and her.
>However, it's because of love that this unfairness even arose.

If Yukino hid that she likes 8man then why is Yui still saying that she's being unfair to Yukino?
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>>140913875
Yukino offered Yui her neck and put it under Yui's foot and encouraged her.
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>>140913912
Because as much as Yukino tries hiding it, Yui knows.
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>>140913951

this
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>>140913932
Ok, so you agree with me then.
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>>140913951
>Yui being perceptive about anyone's true feelings
Are we reading the same series?
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>>140913988
It isn't actually stepping on Yukino's neck. It is talking a walk and someone puts something under your foot.
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>>140914030

Maybe not. You perhaps are not reading Oregairu.

Yui has trouble understanding 8man, but she is otherwise pretty empathetic as well as sensitive to others feelings.
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>>140914030
Isn't that her shtick, though? She gets along well with everyone?
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>>140914030
You tell me.

http://imgur.com/a/iWr2H
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>>140914139
It's the exact opposite of her schtick. Yui's the main one driver of communication in the group because she's too "dumb" to read everyone's motives like 8man and Yukino think they can.

Empathy is a form of projection, and Yui does a lot of fucking projecting, making her a highly empathetic person.
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Recipes aren't canon to ANOTHER
I won the thread.
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>>140914431
Your post has about as much quality as most others in this thread, I'll give you that.
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>>140914431
Recipes are only canon to Another
You are a fag
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>>140914500
Yes but the mods should ban the recipes from being posted.

>>140914522
So what they imply applies to nothing. Thanks.
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>>140914558
Yuipollfag, just stop.
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>>140914558
You must have mental problems, Yuipollfag
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>>140914558

> the mods should ban the recipes from being posted

Good grief. They're not even that bad. What they amount to is "things aren't blissfully perfect in ANOTHER". What a shocking revelation. An Oregairu end, even a non-canon one, isn't blissfully perfect. Who saw it coming?
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Why do these recipes wound Yuifags so? I would expect Yukinofags to be mad about them.
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>>140914644

A subset of them clearly really desperately wanted to believe that Yui's ANOTHER end would be superior to the real one because everything would be perfectly tranquil and everyone would be lacking in any pain.

The recipes make ANOTHER better. They make it more interesting. They add detail that allows us to consider it in relation to the main story. They make ANOTHER not a delusional fantasy and the whole thing more believable in the context of the rest of the series up to it.
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>>140914558
Why are you so opposed to canon yuri?
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