How satisfied were you with the ending?
I'm glad it ended on a joke. That's exactly what I expected from the series.
>>140840805
very.
everyone mad that a gag series ended on a gag is clinically retarded.
Shit jokes but thematically passes.
Stupid enough.
>>140840805
>Comedic show has a comedic ending
Of course I was satisfied
Someone wrote a summary of the Onsenmatsu event on twitter. Kara's gayer than we all thought.
>>140841374
Also, a translation of one of the panels by gb http://gb-asks.tumblr.com/post/143577933622
I would have enjoyed a conclusion to all the drama with some funny stuff thrown here and there, but ultimately that gag ending was very fitting for the show. I don't know why everyone was butthurt over it. A lot of people said it just wasn't funny, but I was laughing through the whole episode. I think a lot of people were just so angry they couldn't find any of the stuff going on funny.
>>140841374
This cannot be real.
>>140841586
How did they get money from this?
>>140841374
What the fuck Kara
>>140841586
So who is who aside from Ichi and Kara?
>>140841735
Looks like Jyushi is parachuting in, but he is also driving the tank.
>>140841374
How do you lose your dick? That sounds like some Gintama shit right there.
>>140841374
>Choro ditches them for the feet bath
Choro confirmed for worst brother. Would rather soak his feet than help his distraught brother look for his missing genitals.
For those who didn't see, the first two Full Bokko Heroes X crossover designs are out.
>>140842201
Fuck, they're cute. Too bad I can't read nip, I wish I could play this game just for this.
>>140840976
First post, best post. The super serious setup from 24b just made the no fucks given joke finale that much better.
>>140841374
>Ichi was just doing a kancho
Oh.
>>140841374
What the fuck
>>140841735
Juice is the parachute guy (his smile is wider and has the heart in it), Oso's the one in the tank, Totty's the bleeding one, and Choro's the one getting run over.
>>140843228
Then who's flying the plane!?
>>140842201
Why is Oso such a slut
>>140842201
>Oso's armpit fetish costume
NNNGHHH
Choro's prototype.
>>140843442
Worst boy.
>>140843442
He looks cute.
>>140841374
Wh... what? This is real? Really real?
>>140843371
Armpit fetishists are the worst. You won't shut up about anything sleeveless.
>>140843492
No anon, you are the worst boys.
>>140843535
See >>140841490. It's hard to believe but true. I'd love a translation of all of the panels but I've only ever seen that one picture and you need all of them.
>>140840805
It was fine. A good episode, but not a great ending.
>>140843442
I'm excited
>>140843345
It's not even a risque outfit but I agree, he's a total whore.
>>140842201
Out of bodysuit imp Osomatsu, demon suit Osomatsu, and Full Bokko Osomatsu, which is the better demon?
>>140843442
So cute. I have the biggest urge to buy all the Nendos, and I could probably afford to, I'm far from broke, but I can't stop getting this nagging feeling in the back of my mind that it's such a waste of money, so I'm really conflicted.
>>140841374
>Totty Jr.
>>140843618
Dude I just saw it and said it, I don't actively search for stuff like this or anything, calm down
>>140841490
One more panel if anyone wants to see it.
>>140843442
That's probably the widest I've seen his :> face.
>>140843442
what a cutie
>>140841374
>Totty loses his dick
Great now we have another reason for Tumblr to headcanon that Totty is trans.
>>140844343
Nobody here goes there anyway, so it shouldn't matter.
>>140844343
I'd be more worried about the fact that Kara's canonically given a handy to Totty.
>>140844973
Does it count when the dick isn't attached to the body?
>>140840976
If it's a joke it isn't very funny. Totoko stabbing herself isn't exactly laff-a-minute material. Maybe I'm missing something but after the good time I had with the show the ending left a real sour note.
>>140845279
Totoko committing ritual suicide was hilarious, what're you on about?
>>140843646
Which onsen(s) is this happening at?
>>140845364
It could have been funny but the way it was executed didn't do anything for me. I might just need to rewatch the episode. Serious ending or not it just seemed like an unsatisfying ending to the show.
>>140845157
Only if Totty felt anything.
Kara relating himself with a dick is what worries me the most desu.
>>140841374
Why would ichi stick his finger up kara's ass? what's even the context for doing such a disgusting thing, he could have used literally every phallic object and he uses his fingers, fucking gross.
>>140843442
>>140845629
Kancho is traditional.
>>140845629
Not gay enough.
>>140845629
Kancho is a form of bullying, anon.
>>140843442
Cutest one yet.
Can't wait to see how they fuck up Ichi's hair this time.
>>140845714
>>140845681
So in japan they bully other guys by fingering them? Jesus christ.
>>140845536
He could relate because he remembered all the times he's been lonely and/or abandoned. Him being embarrasing is the only way they can make Kara say sad things without being OoC.
>>140845629
>implyingimp you wouldn't want Ichi's fingers in your ass.
>>140842201
Dragon-Oso looks quite good actually, goes well with his greed theme.
>>140845754
I would let Ichimatsu bully me.
>>140845629
Pierrot sure wants Fujoshit's money, but they are taking too far.
>>140845765
So my edgymatsu videos were telling me the true?
>>140845931
You didn't need to watch those videos to know that. Episode 5 is proof enough.
>>140843991
I've already commited to them. To be fair, no other Matsu merch has interested me so far other than the BDs and I already buyfag regularly.
The joke went on for too long, it was funny until they went to space. It should've ended with Coachmatsu's death and have a different skit for the last part. Worse version of Iyami Kart, weak episode overall.
>>140845754
Have you seriously never come across that term in anime or manga even? Ever? Seriously? Holy shit.
>>140844343
But if Totty's dick can just pop off and the brothers can be unsure of whose it is, that means all their dicks probably have that function.It probably makes it easier for his crossdressing.
>>140845754
There's even a game about it
http://members.shaw.ca/boong-ga/
Would anons mind voting in this? I need a definite answer before I can start backgrounds and visual interfacing with that app.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10082719
>>140841586
This is brand new information! For real!this happiness is but a preview for season two I'm fucking hype
>>140847761
I'm cool with either, just do whatever you're most comfortable with.
>>140843991
well if you do you won't be alone anon I'm buying the full set too
>>140847814
Here's your reply.
>>140848029
>Your reply
Thanks.
>>140842201
So what are the other classes in this game? Anyone have any guesses as to what the other matsus will be?
>>140847990
is that piss or honey
>>140849457Both
Do you liker your Matsu with some curves?
>>140847972
I prefer vertical for apps that you only look at for a short period of time so I was trying to make that work, but it's almost impossible to have background rooms tall without warping them so much so that the occupants don't look awkward being in there. Too much floor space.
>you will never have a little Matsu to torture
>>140850339
They're like hamsters.
>>140840805
is kara wearing sneakers?
If only.
>>140850306
Yeah, horizontal is the best way to get enough room on the screen. Besides, the one official sugar daddy app is vertical, and that's just a wallpaper simulator.
>>140842201
You forgot Iyami zansu!
>>140849991
they're stupid neets, they're probly all ether fat or skeleton mode
>>140850740
A cooking show drama CD with those two, one is the chef and one is the critic.
>>140850865
The key difference between burgerneets and the matsu neets is that the matsunos don't have a real computer to get fat behind.
>>140840805
It was pretty meh for me of course I kind of expect them to end on a joke. I still wish they resolved the drama quickly then just drop the whole thing. My only issue with this does this mean for season 2 they are just going full comedy?
>>140843442
I'm going to end up getting all six, fucking Christ even the worst brother is cute
FREE DOSH IN HESOWARS FOR GW
dunno how much, accidentaly skipped too fast
>>140847990
man, that outfit is so delicious
>>140850865
They could probably also be skinnyfats and considered overweight in Japanese BMI.
>>140851169
Nah, they'll still have their serious episodes. Even -Kun had its occasional depressing ones.
>>140843442
That fucking glow stick I swear it's worse then that fucking cat.
>>140851197
It's 3k coins a day up till the 10th. Pretty nice.
>>140840805
>If it was a regular episode anywhere else in the season
7/10 It was good and got some solid laughs out of me
>The fact that it was the finale and the episode the preceded it was both serious and ended on a cliffhanger
11/10 finale of the year
>>140851272
Thank you
FREE 3K COINS IN HESOWARS FOR GW
>>140840805
The show's over since long ago. Fuck off with your forced generals, Tumblr.
>>140840805
Pretty satisfied. The fact that it still causes mass butthurt and some people claiming they feel the desire to murder everyone involved in the episode or declaring Osomatsu-san soiled shows its power.
>>140851411
Here's your reply.
>>140851565
Get the fuck out.
>>140841374
It reminds me of this
>>140851728
>Kara's theme in the BG
>Heh
>>140851272
I want to take care of him until I die and he moves on to someone else.
>>140845754
>>140845845
>>140845629
For those of you too fucking new to know what Kancho is
>>140852602
Isn't kancho without the clothes kind of gay though?
>>140852602
I learned about it from the gaijin chronicles.
>>140851411
Show me the rule that says you can only talk about currently airing anime you tremendous faggot.
>>140852641
it's not gay as long as balls don't touch
>>140852722
Fuck, that's cute.
>>140852602
Well, Kancho with no clothes is literally fingering though. Ichi is a degenerate, no excuses.
>>140849457
don't worry it actually is honey
>>140843442
I just hope that they don't fuck up Ichi's hair, please no ferrero rocher I fucking beg of you good smile. Don't go the same route you went with your figmas, take a note from orange rouge's little figures instead.
>>140853932
Well, the nendos ARE from orange rouge.
>>140853932
Both the nendos and figmas are from the Orange Rouge brand though.
>>140853932
I'm hoping that his hair will be good. He's the only nendo i'm going to get.
>>140853932
Orange Rouge is a Good Smile line.
>>140852999
I want an episode where Ichi runs into someone who interprets everything Ichi does as being a brotherfucking fetish dump. Even going into alleys and feeding cats is interpreted as some sort of code word for hardcore gay sex.
>>140853932
>>140854371
>having hope
You bwakas.
He won't look good, he will most likely look the worst and that's what you should prepare yourselves for. That hair just won't work in 3D.
>>140854564
That sounds hilarious
>>140854371
But he will feel lonely anon.
>>140854591
He always does.
>>140854123
>>140854267
>>140854435
Well that gives me hope, they managed it for the trading figure so hopefully they can either duplicate that or improve on it for the nendo.
In other news, here are some new drinks from another matsu themed menu set. This time they're all little princes again.
>>140854578
Honestly at this point i don't even give a fuck, i just know i'm going to buy him anyways even if it's shit ;_;
>>140854591
I'm sure he will be okay with the oso figma with him.
>>140854591
>tfw this is the exact reason why I'm getting at least two.
Is this autism?
>>140854794
>both kara and ichi have similar foam on top
FINDS
>>140851411
and yet you're still here bitching about it
>>140854921
Is this like the time they had the same popcorn flavor?
>>140854794
>Orange cat in Ichi's arms
>It's a completely different cat that's the same color as ESP
Clever.
>>140855147
Its the one that scared Kara off the roof, or the one that broke his glasses.
>>140854921
It's cotton candy, but yes.
>>140855266
Sw-sw-sweetsu.
>take break from checking pixiv for a while
>check today and there are at least 20 to 30 thousand new pics added
How big is your matsu folder? I'm seriously considering buying a external hard drive solely for my collection.
>>140854578
Could I have the source for that pic? I reverse image searched it and couldn't find anything
>>140854794
So are they slushies with whip cream and foam? If that is the case I think I would just stick to drinking Choro. Such an odd combo.
>>140855696
https://twitter.com/nya99_0/media
The guy only has 4 images so far
I wish there was more iyami zansu
>>140855733
They're either sodas or juices from what little I can read. The "foam" is cotton candy.
>>140855770
That's some stunning work.
>>140855685
Since you have so many, do you have any artists you'd recommend?
That goes for all anons I guess. Who's your favourite matsu artist and what's their twitter/pixiv?
>>140855685
7469
But I have like a thousand tabs open. I have given up on pixiv and now limit myself to twitter. It's still a nightmare.
I just found a dedicated "Christmas Couple and Ichi, with focus on Boyfriend-kun" artist. I can't believe boyfriend-kun actually got porn with bugs before Jyushi.
>>140856713
>Boyfriend-Kun gets bug porn.
>Ichi gets a bestiality doujin
Meanwhile, Jyushi gets neither, despite being into both.
>>140856833
Trying to live a normal life when you don't even have a fucking name is very stressful, you see
>>140855685
Most of it is Kara and Ichi which I usually don't bother looking at. So I can easily catch up on other pairings. I don't bother with twitter since its a pain in the ass to navigate. I am worried at what point am I going to remove all of this muppet porn off my computer.
>>140845754
It even happens in the calming detective
>>140856958
I feel bad for the guy, he's always seen as "too pure" to be sexual when all he wants to do is fuck bugs
>>140856503
@taimatsudash1, they're so close to full matsu style but in my opinion improve it a little by simplifying around the eyes. They do almost entirely IchiJuicy doodles and shitposts so their twitter is fun to watch if you've got one.
http://imgur.com/a/ynCvj
>>140855147
But it's not ESP Kitty. That's >>140855147
what's important.
>>140857936I like their porn
>>140856833
I am starting to see other side character be a thing for the brothers it's kind of nice. Sadly no porn yet.
>>140845754
How new are you? Holy shit.
>>140858124Do you have a way to get in to their R18 locked, they have to confirm you're overage but it's hard to approach on how.
>>140858613
I managed to without having to ask, maybe just put it in your description or something
>>140857936
>>140858613
Can someone explain me why is the matsu fans the only ones here in 4chan that use tumblr terms as "they" when the sex of the author is unknown?
Does anyone have the full body costumes from the quiz game?
>>140858584
These threads are filled with retarded karafags
>>140856958
Because Juice is the angel that can't be corrupted, and they already have brothers designated for hardcore fucking and /d/ activities. Juice's job is to be the designated pure romance guy so his brothers don't have to do that.
>>140858787
Not all newfags are Karafags.
>>140858766
>>140858766
Archives, anon. Alternatively, raid the source code of the game on your browser.
>>140858747
Because most Osomatsu artists are girls but using girl pronouns automatically feels wrong? Don't be retarded.
>>140858889
Thanks.
>>140858787
Ah yes, the meta coment towards Karafags. This was the only thing that was missed.
>>140858870
>>140858987
>replying
You should know better by now.
>>140858987
>>140858870
>>140859163
Karafags detected. You should go back to tumblr, you're not welcome here.
>>140858747
How is They a Tumblr thing?
>>140858843
But what if Jyushi and AV-Chan are into kinky stuff?
>>140859282
I'd like to see AV put on a bee costume in an attempt to get Juice to fuck her bug-style, but the chance of that doujin happening is slim to none.
>>140859233
How many times do you hear or see gender neutral pronouns, anon? And in 4chan of all places.
>>140859540
>since 2008
>>140859484
Well, there is thishttp://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=55640359
>>140858940
This. I originally used girl pronouns for them but thought that was shitty because that might inadvertently turn away or ignore male matsu artists, and we need more of them. If awesome artists are turned away at the thought of and being assumed as women and the status that comes with being a fujo then yeah, I'd be pretty pissed too.
>>140859540
You're using one right now dumbass, 'anon' is used as a pronoun, an adjective, and a verb.
>>140859651
Then I must had cherrypicked really hard the threads I post in because I haven't seen it.
>>140859811
Well I've most certainly seen it so you must have been unlucky.
>>140859282
You must be delirious to think anyone on Pixiv would want to draw Juice and AV being anything other than the sickeningly cute and chaste couple. Kinks wouldn't even come up.
>>140859484
Come to think of it, forgot that this and the Girlymatsu event were coming up on Children's Day.
Is this bullying? Is it okay to do this?
>>140859942
It's always okay to bully Kara after the pain he inflicts on everyone.
>>140859941
I'm gonna guess the Nyaa-Chan stuff will involve more Ichi than Choro.
>>140859540
>>140859811
Are you autistic? They used neutral pronouns because they don't know artist's gender.
>>140859942
I wonder how much his clothes costs.
>>140860015
Anon, if you read me message I wrote that, I asked why. Here all I see it's he/she.
>>140860012
They are really popular among nips, so yeah. I just can't wait for the plethora of "meeting in the alley and falling in love" doujins.
>>140860104
Didn't Ichi and Nya were popular before Pierrot made her a bitch?
Why no one can translate this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAtjZglVjFA
I want my edgymatsu weakly dosis.
>>140859669
>Guy drew an AV fucking an unconscious Juice doujin
Nice.
>>140860250
You could ask any of the youtube translators to do it, you know.
>>140860293
The good ones don't take request if I remember.
>>140860189
Yeah. He was pretty much his default Matsu Girl ship. Nips loved putting them together in situations where he helps her relax outside of idol work or she's his Manic Kitty Dream Girl. Hell, someone even theorized he went around in the black Santa outfit to sneak into her apartment and give her a gift.
>>140860077
It's wrong making an assumption about that person's gender.
>>140860348
Makes sense, they'd get inundated with them immediately. Seems it's a hot commodity.should have spent more time in jap class so I could do more for anons[/spoilers]
>>140858747
Using "they" when you don't know someone's gender isn't a tumblr thing, but claiming "they/them" is your pronoun is pretty fucking tumblr
>>140860431
Anon, read my post, please.
>>140860580
This. If you don't know someone's gender you should use they/their
>>140860580
>>140860695
Bingo, cased closed here, no need to fight and derail.
Alright, lets change the topic.
Which Matsu will Totoko have a drunk, one night stand with.
>>140860834
Obviously Oso, though it would be funny if it happened with Kara
>>140860834
Papamatsu.
>>140860834
Bonus if it ends like pic related.
>>140860834
Not to be boring but Oso definitely. I can't imagine her wanting to get with Choro even when drunk.
>>140861055
>Boring
Oso/Totoko isn't really boring, they actually have a pretty good dynamic.
>>140858843
>Juice
>Angel
>>140861661
Juicy, Choro and Kara are canonically the angels while Oso, Todo and Ichi are devils.
>>140860834
Definitely wouldn't be the younger three so it's between Oso, Kara and Choro.
If it was Oso it would be passionate and sloppy.
If it was Kara it'd be short and disappointing though I bet he'd eat her out for an hour afterwards to compensate, he gives no fucks about her smell.
Choro would be a beast once he finally got her down to do it cause he's done too much for her to not make it worth both their while.
>>140861706
Forgot to tell, but none of the brothers are pure.
>>140861706
Yeah sure they made merch of them as angels but that doesn't mean they actually are, they're anyting but angels
>>140861801
Angels arepure
>>140861747
>Choro
>Not cumming as soon as he gets the condom on.
C'mon anon.
>>140861747
I don't know why but I get the feeling Kara wouldn't even be able to get it up when the time comes.
>>140861747
>If it was Kara it'd be short and disappointing though I bet he'd eat her out for an hour afterwards to compensate, he gives no fucks about her smell.
I always thought that out of all the brothers he'd be the most willing to eat pussy.
>Once Choro would stop jizzing his pants he would be a beast once he finally got her down to do it cause he's done too much for her to not make it worth both their while.
>all theMatsus get smartphones
>suddenly Totoko gets annoyed that they keep sending her dick pics
I wish they would.
>>140862510
>Oso send her the most.
>Including videos.
>>140843442
Choromatsu is cute. CUTE!
>>140862510
>>140860376
Now she'd just be fuel for his M kink, to step on his balls and fart in his face.
>>140862812
Ironically, a good amount of art has them being awkward but sweet, or him being somewhat aggressive when it comes to her.
>>140863021
Link?
>>140862683
Is Ichi masturbating?
>>140863042
Bump
>>140863021
There was the one where he makes her touch his dick on a bench. There was also the one where he goes to a handshake event and pulls pic related on her.
>>140864764
>and pulls pic related on her
Nothing out of the ordinary for the average idolfag.
>>140855685
You have to resolve to do it daily otherwise you'll want to kill yourself if you want to get caught up.
At least since the series finished, it's slowed down to 30 pages worth a day (roughly) rather than the 60 - 100 it used to while it was running.
>>140864831
Not many iterations of that end in putting a vibrator in her ass and using her as a human chair.
>>140862683
Source?
>>140841374
Now that they know that Kara is really popular the bullying and painfulness is only going to get worse isn't it? Ichi's bullying is going to get worse too, won't it?
Just to stick it to us they still won't give us an episode. Meanwhile Totty will get more.
>>140865464
They'll probably give more Totty bullying too, since the rule of his character is that he can never win against his brothers. They'll bully everyone except Jyushimatsu who'll BOEEEH his way to the top.
>>140865558
>Another Jyushimatsu Festival episode
I like him, but make it stop.
>>140865464
I just want an episode where Ichi gets what he deserves
>>140865558
I fucking hate their bias towards Jyushi.
>>140865464
Nice, kara a shit. He is only good for being bullied.
>>140865728
Stay mad karafag
>>140865464
KaraIchi-san season 2.
>>140865722
I want an episode where Ichi actually gets along with Karamatsu for once. That would never happen though.
>>140865899
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
>>140865464
Emo Ichi is less appealing than Ichi dropping his spaghetti or moe Ichi. So I hope if there's a second season Ichi drops his emo aura a bit and starts showing his emotions more, also an episode where he has to replace Totty and has to interact with his friends.
And for fuck´s sake no depressed Kara.
>>140865899
>Ichi actually gets along with Karamatsu
Ichi hates Kara so you're right that would never happen
>>140866161
Ichi is just annoyed that Kara is able to be sincere about himself, that and Kara sometimes is just too embarrassing.
>>140865899
There's more of a chance of: >>140865722 happening than that.
I actually would like to see Kara be an ass to his brothers more like he was to Choro in the Dayon tribe skit & Totty in Kerosene.
>>140866445
I wonder what could push Kara to act like an asshole to his brothers
>>140866161
I sure am tired of that meme. Why does Ichi sleep next to Karamatsu? Why did he want to wear his perfect fashion? What about his inner monologue in episode 16? I'm not even a KaraIchi/IchiKara shipper but Ichimatsu clearly doesn't hate Karamatsu as much as he tries to act like he does. It's more than likely a combination of jealousy and Kara's painfulness that pisses Ichi off.
>>140866161
How can anyone even have this thought process after Episode 16?
>>140866698
Trolls, shit posters, people in denial.
>>140866578
>Why does Ichi sleep next to Kara
Where was it said that they got to choose wear they sleep?
>Why does he wear his perfect fashion?
He's concerned about how he looks, it had nothing to do with Karamatsu.
>Inner monologue
Spur of the moment.
I don't think Ichi hates Kara, none of the brothers actually hate each other but he's definitely his least favorite brother.
>>140865098
This artist sure has a wide range of fucked up and vanilla.
>>140866161
They'd only get along if they were messing things up for another brother, like Totty in Five Demons.
>>140867765
While I'd agree that either Kara or Totty is probably Ichi's least favorite brother, that's really not saying much. He still definitely doesn't hate Karamatsu as much as he pretends to. Why the hell wouldn't he get to choose where he sleeps? You think their mother lines them up and tells them where to go to bed? Even if he was concerned about how he looked, he's still trying on Karamatsu's clothing, how does that have nothing to do with Karamatsu. He called himself a Karamatsu boy and praised him for being so kind. Spur of the moment or not it showed he didn't have complete hatred for the guy.
>>140867765
I hate Kara and Ichi together but you sound ridiculous.
>>140868166
>You think their mother lines them up and tells them where to go to bed?
No, but there's nothing saying that he purposely chose you sleep next to Karamatsu either. Maybe they play rock, paper, scissors. Who knows.
>how does that have nothing to do with Karamatsu
Because he wasn't wearing it to be like him/because he's karaboy, he was wearing it to be fashionable.
>Spur of the moment or not it showed he didn't have complete hatred for the guy.
Yeah, no shit. I said that I don't think he hates him.
>>140868593
They always sleep in the same order, dumb dumb.
>>140868593
>Maybe they play rock, paper, scissors. Who knows.
Are you a retard?
>>140868800
Cute! Cute!!
>>140868800
Not bad.
>>140868593
>>140867765
My god. This is hilarious.
>>140867768
Give link.
>>140868800
I don't care about this green thing. Ichi where.
>>140868593
But they always sleep at the same spot. There is no one else on his left side and Kara is probably one of the less annoying during sleep so it must be convenient for Ichi
> Jyushi and Kara are the best
> Ichi and Choro are the worst Matsu
We all agree right?
>>140869134
Change Jyushi and Ichi and I agree.
>>140869134
> Kara, Ichi, Totty and Oso are the best
> Choro and Jyushi are the worst
That's it.
>>140868768
>>140868821
I meant that maybe they played it to decide their sleeping positions. My point is asking "if Ichimatsu hates Karamatsu then why does he sleep next to him" as a way to prove he secretly likes him is invalid since we're not sure why they sleep in that position in the first place.
But sure, let's just say he's totally tsun for him because they sleep next to each other.
>>140868768
>>140868821
>>140869076
Not him, but they probably sleep that way to avoid talks during night. Just look, Oso sleeps next to Choro and Totty, I'm pretty sure Choro and Totty wouldn't want to spend hours talking with Oso in the night, Jyushi sleeps next to Choro, Totty sleeps next to Oso and Kara and Kara sleeps next to Totty and Ichi.
>>140869096
Karamatsu's also the first one that'll have to smell his deadly night farts so it works out.
>>140869086http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=15120043He's the guy doing that one AV-Chan NTR doujin.
>>140869134
I agree Jyushi and Kara are best matsus but there are no worst matsus, they're all good
>>140869284
But they weren't even saying that. You're making it sound like they're shipping them and that Kara and Ichi are in love with each other or something. All that was said was that Ichimatsu likes Karamatsu more than he lets on. Shipping not included.
>>140869134
>Depending on the episode Best tends to switch
>Except Choro who was only best in an episode that never happened
Further proof that Choro should have been aborted.
>>140869689
All of them should've been aborted, mama matsuno deserved better
>>140869545
This desu
>>140869134
Juice and Kara are my personal favorites as well, but I love all the Matsus, and everyone has their favorites, so I wouldn't venture to say any Matsu is the best or worst. Choro and Ichi are cute.
>>140869689
No episode really focused on Choro it was more of the brothers just bitching about Choro more then usual.
>>140841586
I legitimately thought they were doing sex work here. Why would this be censored?
Cuddle one, kiss one, fuck one, marry one, bully one, Feed one.
>>140869760
If Todomatsu and Jyushimatsu were gone, there'd be less dysfunction in the pack
>>140870176
Cuddle Jyushi, kiss Totty, fuck Oso, marry Kara, bully Choro, feed Ichi.
>>140870176
Cuddle Juice, kiss Choro, fuck Oso, Marry Kara, bully Totty, Feed Ichi.
>>140870176
Cuddle Ichi,
Kiss Totty.
Fuck Oso.
Marry Kara.
Bully Choro.
Feed Jyushi.
>>140868800
I want to come inside Choromatsu!
>>140870285
>>140870324
>>140870332
Everyone wants to fuck Oso. Nice.
>>140870176
I won't fuck nor marry one, I should be the spoiled one. I will kiss everyone but Ichi and Oso, I will cuddle everyone except Oso, Ichi and Choro. I will feed none.
>>140869760
http://imgur.com/a/O15hk
>>140870383
They also all want to marry KaraOnii-chan was made for fucking
>>140869493
How this relationship would work? Ichi being her bitch boy? Hardcore Ichi?
>>140870176
Cuddle Kara, kiss Totty, fuck Jyushi, marry Choro, bully Ichi, feed Oso
Marrying any of them would be a mistake though
>>140869780
>Oh my JYUSHIMATTSU--
>>140870176
Cuddle Ichi
Kiss Ichi
Fuck Ichi
Marry Ichi
Bully Ichi
Feed Ichi
>>140870587
Bit of both. They switch on who's dominate.
And they're also vanilla as fuck sometimes.
>>140870176
Cuddle Ichi, kiss Totty, fuck Oso, marry Jyushi, bully Kara, and feed Choro.
>>140870176
Cuddle Pink boy, kiss Purple guy, fuck red man, marry Green fellow, bully yellow shit, feed blue bro.I know absolutely nothing about these Nobita dudes.
>>140870176
>Cuddle Ichi
>Kiss Jyushi
>Fuck Oso
>Marry Choro
>Bully Totty
I will feed Kara tons of meat.
>>140870698
>that image
That's so out of character for Choro
>>140870697
>Bully yellow shit
Asshole.
Was 8 still the last chapter of the manga translated?
>>140870176
Cuddle Jyushi
Kiss Totty
Fuck Kara
Marry Ichi (mu husband) and Oso (my wife)
Bully Kara
Feed Ichi
>>140870867
Most characters shown in fan art are always depicted out of character so this isn't something really new.
>>140868166
i like to think he chose to sleep next to kara in case he rolls over him in their sleep and accidentally kill him
>>140870645
In that order? You filthy degenerate.Emotionally dependable Ichi for the win
What makes Oso so fuckable to you degenerates?
>>140870176
Cuddle Ichi, kiss Choro, fuck Oso, marry Kara, bully Totty, Feed Juicy
>>140871122
His desperation.
>>140871122
Great slut.
>>140870873
I don't know man, maybe he's actually a great guy, it's just in a lot of these pictures Yellow man looks kind of like an unbearable retard.
>>140869628
yeah same, ichi most likely doesn't hate him as much as he lets on since ichi probably "hates" kara because he's confident and doesn't let what others think of him impact what he says, does or wears. it's mostly envy not hate [spoilers]and this is coming from someone who heavily dislikes the pairing, both romantic and platonic[/spoilers]
>>140871249
You are absolutely true.
>>140871122
I can be into degradation and sleeping with sleazy, desperate guys is kinda hot. Makes you feel like a used, cheap sex toy during and after.
>>140871122
He's a degenerate just like me.
Feet??
>>140870176
Marry Kara, fuck Oso, kiss Choro, feed Totty, cuddle Juice, kill--I mean bully Ichi
>>140871122
I think most of us really want to fuck kara but would rather save him for husbando material
>>140870176
cuddle totty, kiss oso, fuck ichi, marry kara, bully choro, feed jyushi.
>>140871093
No, I want to bully him by saying how cute he is until he gets all flustered
>>140871249
I mean yeah, he is an unbearable retard, but he's absolutely a loveable retard and you're an asshole for bullying him. You should definitely bully the green guy, he's an obnoxious prick, or the blue guy, because he was made for bullying.
>>140871249
He's a great guy but even so bullying retards is not a nice thing to do
>>140871510
But the green guy is really cute, and also I like the color green. Yellow is a shitty awful color. Blue guy seems like a cool chill guy.
>>140871664
Oh man it happened. Somebody finally thinks Karamatsu is cool.
>>140870176
Marry Kara, cuddle Ichi, kiss Juushi, feed Oso, Bully Choro and fuck Totty.
>>140871664
Blue guy is definitely not cool
>>140871664
We've got a Karamatsu boy over here.
>>140871824
Are those fucking jorts?
>>140871664
Blue is lame as fuckbut best.
Green is for bully and cuddling later, also one does not bully yellow because it's like killing a puppy.
>>140871901
He is trying his best, anon.
>>140871664
Yellow is not a very appealing color but that's no excuse to be a bully, all matsus should be loved and cared for
>>140870176
Cuddle Jyushi
Kiss Jyushi
Fuck Jyushi
Marry Jyushi
Feed Jyushi
Bully__Kara
>>140872025
Green deserves all the bullying
>>140871664
>Karamatsu
>cool
>>140871122
Cheap prostitutes are lewd as fuck.
>>140872081
Maybe you deserve all the bullying anon
>>140872107
I want to spoil him.
>>140872107
>>140872183
The only time Kara was actually cool was when he was not trying to be cool
>>140871933
>>140872025
>>140872107
>>140871824
I think I'm going to watch this now just to see how off I am about their personalities.
>>140870176
BULLY BULLY BULLY BULLY
>>140872219
Irony?
>>140872259
>>140871664
>Blue guy seems like a cool chill guy.
This is really funny.
>>140872257
Keep in mind episode one is very different from the others. It's a little bit shit.
>>140872257
First episode is completely different from what the show actually is.
>>140872257
I recommend you watch the first 3-4 episodes before deciding if you like it or not. Hope you enjoy the NEET adventures dear anon
>>140872257
I promise you Choromatau will not be your favorite.
>>140873261
He was everyone's favorite at the start. People just changed their minds later.
>>140872067
>Cuddle Jyushi
>Kiss Jyushi
>Fuck Jyushi
>Marry Jyushi
>Feed Jyushi
This anon gets it.
But it should be
BullyChoro
>>140873324
Thankfully he never was mine.
>>140873330But I bully Kara because I like him
>>140873324
Choro is fun, I don't get why people dislike him so much. He's second best matsu
>>140873503
me neither, is it because of his self-awareness?
>>140870697
>>140871249
>>140871664
>>140872257
Can't believe how many gullible retards fall for posts like these every fucking thread.
>>140873503
Because if you like what I don't like then you have shit taste.
You wouldn't make Ichi go on a diet, right?
>>140873879
What would even be the purpose of lying about that?
>>140873503
He was always decent I thought regardless that people loved to shit on him for laughs. I remember for the longest time wanting an episode for him but it didn't really happen so it just became a meme to dislike him. Once the pity episode happened for Kara everyone started to switch around who they liked similr to musical chairs. I think it went Choro>Ichi>Kara>Jyushi>Totty>Oso
>>140874304
If he needed to so he could lose some weight, then yes, I would make him diet.
>>140873879
Are you tell me that people lies on the internet?
>>140874613
That thing is scary as shit.
>>140874765
Well duh, its a serial rapist.
>>140874674
Ichi is easily the most sedentary and chubbiest of the matsus. He needs to diet.
>>140874936
Stop projecting.
Ending actually made it drop a few points for me. I wouldn't mind the gag ending episode, but it wasn't even a funny episode.
>>140875119
Does chubby!Ichi trigger you, anon-kun?
>>140875398
>___!name
Take your meme back to tumblr.
>>140875398
>"Chubby"
Keep telling yourself that. The designs are what they are, everything else is headcanon which you can take back with you to tumblr.
>>140875398
If they all have the same body type, then they're all chubby. Either way their dicks are still tiny and with false phimosis.
When does the Full Boko promotion start its Matsu gacha? I think I might see if I can get them and post screenshots.
>>140876357
Not necessarily. Totty goes to the gym, Juice does his usual Juice antics. Ichi sits on his ass all day or is hunched over in some alley or what have you. Ergo, he'd be the tubbier of the bunch.
>>140876157
Of course it's a headcanon ya sperg.
>>140876922
>Of course it's a headcanon ya sperg.
Get the fuck out.
>>140876357
How would Totoko know this anyway?
>>140877012
She's known them since childhood, so she's bound to have seen their dicks once or twice.
>>140877159
The matsus like to get naked.. do you think they ever stripped in front of her?
>>140869359
>Totty sleeps next to Oso and Kara
I envy that lucky lil cunt with a passion.
>>140876992
What's wrong with headcanons?
>>140877602
Maybe something happened where their clothes were wrecked and she saw. She seems to be present for things like that.
>>140877699
Nothing, they're just acting flustered over what's more commonly a "Tumblr" term. You know, bogeyman and all that.
>>140877602
I'm sure they've "accidentally" flashed her at some point.
>>140877929
I had no idea it was a tumblr term. I'm sure it's more of a ff.net or livejournal thing, which anon may be too young to understand.
>>140877650
same here anon
>>140873330
but what if it's light bullying the good kind that gets jyushis dick rock hard?
>>140878031
Honestly that's what I thought as well, but really, it's just a general aversion to terminology belonging to groups outside of 4chan.
Even though I'd go as far as to say that the overwhelming majority of people here use Twitter in some capacity (that's where people keep pulling news updates and merch previews from) and maybe half use Tumblr (gb is our main translator for Matsu materials and we managed to donate about $300 to her recently, and she's based mostly on Tumblr).
So really, it's all pointless posturing, but that doesn't stop anyone from losing their mind when they've memorized the exact .gif dimensions used for tumblr images and spots someone posting a screencap from there.
>it's been almost a month since the ending
>still no s2 announcement
>>140873503
>>140873813
>>140874185
he's okay, neither bad nor good
>>140878169
Fuck off honestly
>>140878198
>almost a month
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>140878169
im gonna get hate for this but i use tumblr
>>140878251
You say that because it's true anon.
>>140878287
>useless spoiler
>no punctuation
Yeah i can fucking tell, now go away.
>>140878169
Is this bait? This is the most cancerous post i have read in a while.
>>140878287
>>140878287
Literally no one that matters cares. A good portion of people in this website use it. Now ignore Triggershit McAnon and post more matsu.
>>140878480
Of course it's not bait.
The fact that the "news" posted here is just crossposted from Twitter is common knowledge, or that most of the translations come from someone who hosts their material on Tumblr. I feel like I'm the one replying to bait.
>>140878369
okay
>>140878574
Are you really this stupid? Is this your first day on 4chan?
>>140878645
fuck off
>>140877723
>>140877940
Poor Totoko-chan..
>>140878687
>tumblrshitter telling me to fuck off
I'm dying
>>140878727
Different person who replied, but fuck off from me too while I'm at it.
Tumblr is pointless, Twitter is good for stalking all the Matsu artists.
Hi
>>140876922
You can't have a headcanon that goes against wants already stated to be canon. They all have the same body types
>>140878961
I meant "what's" not "wants"
>>140878898
>Different person who replied
>>140879042
Don't test the depths of my autism/pettiness.
>>140878960
Delete this ugly post
>>140878960
No plan da
>>140879254
Fucking cute
>>140879185
>mfw this thread is literally full of newfags
Holy shit
>>140879254
Read the thread slowpoke
>>140879254
>>140879254
He was posted earlier >>140868800, come back with Ichi
>>140877602
Ichi did that in Iyami Kart.
But I doubt she'd be that happy if it was their muppet version.
>>140878961
You're right, people should just stop drawing stuff like that religion or whatever AU, that didn't happen in the anime. Fujos should also stop drawing BLmatsu, they aren't brother fuckers in canon.
Actually people should just stop doing any art of the matsus, since you can never be sure if it respects canon or not.
Is this how siblings act in real life?
>>140879301
>newfags
Karafags you mean
>>140879365
Obviously anon, don't you have brothers/sisters?
>>140879352
sounds like a great idea
>>140879365
According to my pixiv logs, yes.
>>140879394
It's scary how that meme actually became the reality
>>140879394
Stop right there. Don't instigate this again.
>>140879312
Whoops. Sorry, I didn't see that.
>>140878961
Yeah, I can. I don't think you know what headcanon means.
Just try and stop me.
>>140878961
To be honest i really hate how everybody always draws kara ripped.
>>140879365
Not really at least with all three of my brothers. I think the worst my brothers did was try to wet willy or fart in a closed space. As for making out to make someone sick you could just cough on them and still get the same result. Still after watching this show I wish I had a closer relationship.
>>140879792
This annoys me the most. Nothing in the show has shown him to work out yet people love to draw him to be the most ripped out of all the brothers. I mean you can sort of get away with it for Jyushi and possibly Todo. Same thing goes with people drawing Choro as a skeleton.
>>140879925
It's the hugebrowsand big confidencehe has that makes fujos and fags wet.
>>140879394
Hurr durr let blame karafags! you are karafags! everything is karafags! go back to tumblr you underage tumblrina karafags!
>>140879925
I can see him doing push ups and junk in his spare time to keep up the "cool guy" image. It wouldn't be out of his character.
>>140878961
>They all have the same body types
>someone mentions tumblr or karafags
>thread instantly goes to shit
Why do you all do this.
>>140880100
If only we criticize the matsus and not matsufags. Threads would be tolerable and decent.
>>140879925
I agree that there is no proof but the idea of Karamatsu taking care of his body isn't that far fetched. No idea why people draw Choro thinner though, because he's nervous so he lose weight more easily? I don't know.
>>140880233
Because he's the scrawny nerd type that just reads books all day. That's why he's always depicted as skinny and with glasses.
Which matsu has the hairiest butthole?
>>140881044
Ichimatsu
>>140881044
Choro.
https://twitter.com/Marukarama2/status/725907659862343690
Translation please?
>>140881044
Jyushi
>>140881044
Kara
I quite possibly missed it, but I've never seen the Blaster Short posted here. In case you did too, here's the link:
https://twitter.com/jyushitmatsu/status/726259624383369218
>>140881044
Choro's asshair is constantly on fire so not Choro.
>>140881621
I never did either, but I sort of had an understanding that it wasn't that liked/popular and that's why nobody was scrambling for it.
Thank you anyway, I haven't seen it in full before this.
>>140881621
Finally! Thanks anon. Can someone post this on mega or nyaa for download?
>>140881823
Just install an add-on like flash video downloader to grab it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/kahosaan/status/724841803216773121
This is the cutest fucking thing.
>>140881044
Even though Choro stated he has ass hair it usually gets burned off so that just leaves Ichi being the hairiest just because he can turn into a cat.
>>140840805
Satisfied. Killing off the whole cast is the best way to end an anime show.
https://mobile.twitter.com/amiamihobbynews/status/723357632442961922
https://mobile.twitter.com/amiamihobbynews/status/723358163982905345
I'm sad I didn't get the chance to know what my husbando smelled like.
>>140882452
It's probably overbearing, knowing Kara. I'm glad I don't know.
>>140882452
>husbando
>>140882452
Smells like shit
>>140882452
Someone translated descrptions from the official site long time ago and they all sounded pretty decent
>>140881971
The person's tweets are protected/private.
>>140883701
THAT FUCKING CAT
>>140882452
Ittaaaaiii
>>140883701
I love it and hate it.
>>140883741
At least it isn't in the actual model.
>>140883701
Oh wow that's really cute. Now all i want to see is the ichi nendo.
>>140880233
Unless there is evidence from the show that he works out consider it head canon especially when all we do is see him eat & stand around.
[R-18] 酒は飲んでも・・・てか飲むな! | あめずん http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=56615622 #pixiv I am in bed but a I finnaly found a Kun doujin hopefully the link should if it doesn't I will link it later.
>>140883741
>>140884108
Okay I need sleep just looking at what I wrote.
>>140884163
>>140883701
The design looks like shit. Hell even Kara looks better then him.
>>140884170
Yeah, you sound very out of it anon, please sleep. Thanks for the link though, -kun matsus need more love.
>>140884200
They're all based on already existing characters. That's probably the only cat they had.
>>140884163
Neat
>>140884282
Ah okay the hammer is really off-putting for Ichi.
>>140884342
Yeah, I don't think it fits him either but it can't be helped
>>140884282
>That's probably the only cat they had.
I don't think it's a cat. The name says Geri, which seems to be wolf from Norse mythology.
>>140884413
Can you show the similarities for the others?
>>140884455
The only furrybait then
>>140884464
>>140884560
>>140840805
at the beginning it felt like they left out something important, but they it was so perfectly fit I actually liked all the planned joke.
>>140884342
I thought it fits well with him actually
I also like the costume
>>140884413
>>140884560
>>140884582
I don't understand anyway, is it a game? and the matsu are making a cameo or something?
>>140882452
>>140883352
http://primaniacs.com/osomatsu_fragrance/
>>140885460
Yes and yes. Kinda like CGs had cameos in Granblue I think, or Miss Monochrome in Shironeko.
>>140885550
sweet, how is the game called?
>>140885550
I've never played the game before, but I assume the matsus are going to be available in limited time gacha? Not sure if I should try.
>>140885588
It's called Fullbokko Heroes.
>>140886000
>Fullbokko Heroes
seems nice
>>140880009
Go to sleep ESL-chan.
>>140880009
Kill yourself karafag
>>140878961
No one mentioned this but the endless wings and dr. pepper is probably a factor into Ichi being chubby. Then again I think they're all chubby with the exception of Totty and Jyushi and maybe Kara because I could see him trying to go to the gym a little like Totty but not going through with it enough to actually be in shape. Oso is gonna get a beer gut one day though and it will be amazing.
it is true that choro used to be most favorited matsu at the start of the series? too bad for him, he is shit tier now.
also which matsu is least favorited at the start of the series.
>>140888493
Oso
>>140888493
So many lost their way.
>>140888521
impossible! how they don't like Oso anyway.
>>140888493
Karamatsu
>>140888493
I liked Oso and Ichi at the start and ended loving them all.
Still, I'm a karamatsu boy. Somebody saves me from this curse.
>>140879925
I don't think he'd be ripped, but it's not weird to think he'd put effort into his body when he puts so much into the rest of his looks
Oh no.
>>140888095
>No one mentioned this but the endless wings and dr. pepper is probably a factor into Ichi being chubby.
It's mentioned almost every time we have this kind of talk, mainly because "endless chicken wings" is funny. Ichi eats like a fatass and spends most of his time doing nothing but it was confirmed that they all have the same body type.
Kara and Oso had no problem carrying him, in HesoWars he's carried by two cats and in ep.2 and Final Sheeh he is capable of jumping pretty damn high, even if he was using the cat form to do so. He isn't as much of a whale as it seems.
>>140888670
now that total opposite
Choro used to be most favorited now he(or totty) is the least favorited.
Kara used to be least favorited now he(or ichi) is the most favorited.
there are so much change on most people matsu preference after 25 episode.
>>140888961
Learn to English, please.
>>140888670
Who?
>>140888493
I liked Jyushi at the start, then Choro ended up being my favourite
>>140888806
Ichi is just a fatass in spirit
>>140889083
Rude
>>140888961
>Kara used to be least favorited now he(or ichi) is the most favorited
Incorrect. Kara and jyushi were the most popular matsus back then. Oso the most disliked along with totty.
>>140888493
Maybe on /a/, but Kara/Juice/Ichi have always been the most popular in Japan.
>>140878898
Oso looks like a fucking Dreamworks character.
>>140889877
>Dreamworks character.
who?
Funny cartoons are funny, stop looking for canon and continuity when they just want to tell a joke. Just let gags be gags.
>>140889943
Ever heard of the dreamworks face?
>>140878898
I love this artist. They draw on model but weirdly realistic at the same time. It's nice.
>>140878898
They all look way too fashionable, but--dat Oso.
>>140889972
I don't get the hate one the headcanon stuff even if i hate that term its just fans liking and discussing things in detail. We talk about stuff that's headcanon constantly in these threads. Things like >>140881044 are just as much headcanon talk as who's chubby and who's not.
>>140890150
I've never actually seen hate for the different body type art until this thread. People usually only complain when Kara is drawn with muscles.
>>140890301
I've seen it before but mainly because of an image or something. I mean if you don't like something bitching won't change much.
>>140889877
>Dreamworks makes a CG american Osomatsu-kun cartoon
>>140890468
>They're voiced by Adam Sandler and his friends.
>Ichi is Kevin James.
>>140888493
Oso and Totty were least favorite and Choro was the most favorite.
How times have changed.
>>140890530
>not all just Adam Sandler doing different voices
Dane Cook as Choro though
>>140890150
There's a difference between shitposting, having headcanons, and combing over every detail of a whole work in an attempt to find a pattern that doesn't really exist.
>>140890468
>It's full of terrible fart and poop jokes
oh wait it's the same
>>140890607
>Not wanting Rob Schnider to voice Kara
C'mon, it'd be perfect!
>>140890468
Don't give me nightmares, anon.
>>140890681
Jyushi should be Chris Tucker or some other black comedian
>>140890468Choromatsu x Shrek
>>140890634
Are you insinuating that canon doesn't exist in the show?
Especially, when the show does refers to events in previous episodes?
>>140890745
Chris Rock. He seems to be the "black guy" of Sandlers group.
>>140890784
I always get them confused but better after >>140890763 mentioned shrek imagine Eddy Murph voicing Jyushi.
>>140890745
Why?
Would you?
>>140890841
Eddie Murphy
Damn can't type today.
>>140890855
Always
Adam Sandler - Osomatsu
Rob Schnider - Karamatsu
Dane Cook - Choromatsu
Kevin James - Ichimatsu
Chris Rock - Jyushimatsu
David Spade - Todomatsu
>>140890887
>Eddie Murphy as Jyushi
No. That's just too weird. Maybe Oso. Adam Sandler as Jyushi makes more sense.
>>140890855
Still hoping Oso will.
>>140890910
Can Steven Buscemi be Esper Nyanko?
>>140878031
People didn't use headcanon on ff.net before. I wasn't on live journal I'll give you that.
>>140890910
That movie seems like a nightmare. Especially Kevin James as Ichi. Holy shit.
>>140890910
>David Spade
It's s weirdly fitting voice for some reason
>>140890855
Where're all these snippets coming from?
>>140890910
Jesus I'm cringing just thinking about it.
>>140891055
He can do dry sarcasm and meanness well.
>>140891043
And yet I still almost want to see it happen
>>140890910
>>140891029
>>140891029
Nah Steve Buscemi is Dayon.
>>140883701
Is there anything more humiliating than getting you brains bashed by a fucking furry dressed like a cat?
Say, is his cat obsession the only pure part of Ichi or does he get off of it?
>>140890530
I hear Kevin James is sadly a dick.
>>140891656
He gets turned on by cat paws.
>>140891656
He wants a species change so he probably wants to fuck cats.
>>140891917
Too bad he'd still be a giant cat.
He's not only an asshole, but a furry otherkin incestuous S/M loving weirdo who shits on tables and wants to actually fuck cats. Why do you all love him so much?