Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1524

>>140824368
I know, right. Did you see both choices? The "bad" end is one of my favourite things ever, it was so done. Didn't see that change of character coming at all, but it made so much sense in retrospect. Although the entire second half is all fantastic. I'd rather not comment on how much is to go for fear of spoiling it, but let's just say there is still plenty of amazing stuff you haven't seen yet.

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同性でえっちなことをしてもそれだけでは同性愛ではない

恋愛感情が無ければゲイではない

だからってこのボクはゲイなのか

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKJ-gQt4kgo

>>140825942
I saw both choices yeah. I went for the good choice for now, but I plan to go back and read what happens with the other choice after I get to the end with this one. I'm gonna have a really busy weekend, so I'm hoping to finish this tonight, but I'm not sure if that'll happen judging by your post since it seems like there's still plenty left to go.

>>140826016
How do you manage to write Japanese even worse than your English like that takes some skill man

>>140826225
whats wrong with it dude also what sense does it make to slam someones japanese in djt

maybe this place sux because of you!!!

just chill dude

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Do your reps on time, kids.

>>140826304
I only don't hesitate to make fun of Japanese because you do nothing but shitpost. Also the reason I feel no motivation to help you by pointing out your mistakes.

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>>140826331

>>140826374
Most of that is fresh though

>>140826342
i have no idea what youre talking about but i really would like your help dude

just remember you are a hypocrite to the core my man

>>140825942
>>140826116
I'm not reading your spoilers, since I want to read that eventually. Be careful with any specific spoilers, even in tags. The shitposters will copy it and paste it without tags, like they did with Satsukoi. Try to be as vague as possible.

>>140826446
They're extremely vague slight meta spoilers for the most part. No plot specifics aside from the spoiler from last thread.

>>140826382
I restarted everything after months of inactivity because 出来ない

What's the most polite way to refer to my own asshole in Japanese?

>>140827664
御肛門様

>>140827683
Thanks

Why do you people bother learning Japanese when you could instead learn French? Zut alors!

>>140827726
French doesn't have as much cute anime girl media

>>140827799
Yes it does

Let's settle this once and for all.

http://www.strawpoll.me/4106134

>>140827804
no

So about a year into my Japanese studies and it turns out I'm going blind, probably won't be able to read a computer monitor within 3~6 months. Is it even worth continuing at this point? I just wanted to play my cute anime games ;_;

>>140827821
>I'm in the middle of an attempt right now, just waiting for whatever method I used to kick in fully
12 people waiting to die as we speak. Glad I'm not the only one. See you all in Gensokyo.

>>140826304
I think it's better for you if you figure out what's wrong with your japanese by yourself. You'll learn more that way.

>>140827850
Look on the bright side, you won't have to deal with Kanji.

But seriously, get a screen reader. You should be able to use Anki and texthooker, at least depending on whether or not you feel comfortable with your screen reader, and you can listen to drama CDs.

物質 (ぶっしつ)
物資 (ぶっし)
Literally indistinguishable.

>>140827850
Sorry to hear that anon. It's up to you, but language is fundamentally a spoken thing, and you could always play your games just by listening.

>>140828103
that makes absolutely 0 sense!!!!

>>140827823
Oban Star Racers should be enough of a reason to learn french.

I did it.

>>140827877
If you die while still learning Japanese, Dekinai-chan will steal your soul and force you to do your reps for all eternity

>>140826116
That's a shame in my opinion, the other ending of that choice is much more impactful in the spur of the moment, when you're filled with the adrenaline of the build-up, while the true ending is far better as the last thing you read in the VN so it's what lingers in your memory as it ends. I guess it can't be helped now though.

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

Time spent shitposting is time spent not studying. If you're about to engage in a silly argument or off-topic discussion, close the thread instead. Use your time productively!

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

So, I have a feeling that I'm starting to not be into anime as much as I used to. Although I may have never been in the first place, I'm not really sure. How do I get back into anime and manga?

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oh god I know that this is just a moment of weakness but why the fuck is dekinai-chan so right

No matter how much personal progress I feel I've made I'll try to watch a clip or listen to a drama CD and it's just in one ear and out the other

it's impossible

I can't

>>140828976
have you tried eating 糞 and drinking 尿

>>140828976
Take a break, watching only 1-2 anime a season
realize you need listening practice and that dorama are garbage
get back into it

>>140829001
Only if you provide it.

>>140829062
just find any of my posts

>>140829061
I'm watching two anime this season, and I like them. What I kind of really mean is that I can't get into marathon series anymore, or finding things that I like. I do use Japanese music for listening practice though.

Just hoping it will be a phase.

>ﾋ
WHAT?

>>140829427
タヒね

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>>140829000
At least you got trips.

>>140829000
You don't just do book learnin' and eventually read or listen to something and suddenly it clicks.

The struggle of having to see and hear things and be frustrated is a universal experience to all japanese learners, regardless of method.
The longer you put off diving in to native material the more upsetting it's going to be that all the time you've spent studying grammar rules, example sentences, and doing anki hasn't done much to help you cross _some_ of the barriers.

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>>140829695

>>140829736
posted on reddit thr front osgr ofthr inyrtnry

>>140829782
image is way older than reddit dude nice try

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>>140829842

>>140828608
It'd good enough that I can see myself re-reading it down the line, so I'm not too concerned about it. It was mostly a matter of I wanted to rush to finish it before the weekend so I picked the ending I wanted to see more first on the offchance that there'd be a lot of overlap or if the routes/endings would come relatively shortly after the choice. I USUALLY do what you said and put the endings/routes I'm looking forward to the most at the end though, but I find your sentiment of "the one you do last is what lingers in your memory" doesn't really apply to me; I just remember things for my favorite ending(s)/girl(s), regardless of where they were in the order I read.

>>140829695
Nice assumptions used there for pointless grandstanding the fucking obvious. I doubt you even study Japanese.

>>140829928
what does that mean to me dude

>>140829000
My dekinai moment is when family asks me what someone says and I spaghetti because I either don't know part of the vocab or I can't think of a good natural sounding translation.

>>140827850
Is this a weird genetic thing or could it happen to anyone, how do I avoid becoming blind?

>>140829951
I understand you're probably butthurt at the vaguest notion of someone insulting anki, but if you'll kindly calm the fuck down and re-read the post you'll see that's not the case here.

>>140829928
>>140829782
Nigger, you're being retarded.

That image is literally older than reddit. Just cause it got posted on reddit, that doesn't mean it came from there.

>>140830031
open your third eye before its too late and no i dont mean the one between your cheeks

Will learning japanese eventually make it easier to learn chinese?
What about Korean?

>>140830144
Can't make it any harder.

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>>140826331
How come your relearn is at the top?

>>140830232
Because he didn't do any custom study or new cards. It appears from bottom to top as Mature -> Young -> Relearn -> New -> Custom Study

>>140830281
fug, i'm an idiot

Is there a "simple Japanese Wikipedia" similar to the simple English one?

>>140827726
im not very interested in visiting/living/teaching in a country where i'm liable to get shot and killed by a muslim for being a ホワイトピッグ

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When people say "get through Tae Kim" what do they mean? Just read it? No comprehension or aptitude tests or skill checks?

>>140830575
yea basically heres the nihongo quick 'n' dirty

tyler kim > flash cards > read childrens literature (visual novels) > see you in japan

>>140830359
No, but there's this:
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/

Does the DOJG contain all known grammar used in regular Japanese?

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おはようおにいちゃん

おなかすいてない？

さといも煮てあるけど、よかったらたべれば？

>>140830625
Man why do you even bother replying to people?

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It doesn't just give bad definitions, Core even gives words that don't exist

So is 系 sometimes just attached to things to mean something like "fetish"?

>start new VN
>protagonist uses 僕
And dropped. I wish there was some fucking tagging system so I didn't have to waste any time on games with worthless protagonists.

>>140831455
Where?

>>140831519
What do you prefer? 俺 or 私 or maybe あたし?

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ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT

>>140831519
>being triggered over DJT memes
Maybe you should stop coming to these threads if you get influenced so heavily by dumb shit.

>>140831710
Counter bait!!!

魔道は”正しい道”とは逆の道を歩むものですアナさん。

Help making this make sense in english?

>>140831446
自己批判か

>>140831519
あんたの肛門はボクのもんなんだぜ

>>140831797
why cant you making sense

>>140831897
>why cant you making sense
Well, thanks for helping anyway. Not sure what I expected.

>>140831930
looks to me you wanted someone to just translate something for you without showing any attempt at doing it yourself

shit in is shit out get shit on

>>140831946
If you want to assume things, sure. I'd rather not sound like a retard when I know my translation is quite off and seek advice at the very least rather than a straight translation like you thought I wanted. But whatever, I'm out.

>>140831961
Guy's a resident shitposter, don't mind him.

>>140831961
boy id sure hate to look dumb trying to work something out or pointing out specific things that are giving me trouble so they can be focused on

>>140831969
did you hear him hes already out dude he cant see any of this

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おにいちゃん里芋たべないの？

おいしいよ

>>140832002
those look pretty tasty but probably too high in sugar :^(

>>140832002
ボクは糞食をやってるところだ

今日は一日糞を食べるぞい

>>140830575
Use an anki deck for it.

>>140825862
>try reading
>Understand all the kanji, all the words, but they all just blur together.
Don't underestimate the importance of grammar.

>>140832435
>blur together.
That only happens to me if someone is, for some unknown reason, writing on kana only. There is a special place in hell for those people.

>>140830035
Fuck off back to rｅddit you insufferable tryhard.

Is there a guide to writing characters somewhere? How much distortion is allowed?

What's the flag you have to change for Rikaisama to work on firefox again? Mine broke.

What's the advantage of suspending over deleting?

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today was fucking bad and tomorrow will be even worse. i want to die.

>>140833559
今日は何も出来なかった
明日もきっと同じこと

まだいけるか

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv-CX-lpJbw

So how exactly do you guys learn vocabulary? Especially one that contains unknown Kanji.

>>140833933
Anki.

>>140834009
I mean how do you memorize it?

So let's say you have 20 new words to learn. Some contain Kanji you don't know. Do you simply look at the words, maybe pronounce them, and cycle through the vocabulary until you can recall it all? Or do you write it down? How many times? Do you use mnemonics?

>>140834046
Just do it

>>140834046
Repetition is all. I mumble the reading and meaning a couple times for the ones that I frequently forget, maybe make up a mini-story based on the kanjis looks but that's rare.

>>140834046
What i usually do is trying to draw them in my head

Is there a point in mining before having at least 2k done in core? The vocab I'm mining somehow is much more difficult than the core vocab for me and I have 30-40% correct rate whereas on core I have 65-80%

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>>140826016

>>140834107
>>140834123
>>140834249
I manage to get through the new words but when I review them again the next day it's almost like learning them again.

What do?

>>140834501
I already told you, repetition. You do it until it sticks.

>>140834517
But will it stick? I don't have much confidence in myself so I worry that my memory is just bad and I will never be able to know more than ~100 vocabulary at once.

>>140834561
Sure, unless you were diagnosed with a learning disorder. Some take longer time, some take less, don't stress it.

>>140834501

Sometimes it takes some time to remember it but try to always have that kana in your head and think about it during the day and of course it's gonna take some time to learn 100 kanas just be patient with it and don't force these 100 kanas each day shit that i see some anons do

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>>140834649
>kanas

就活 終活

nice meme

>>140834501
Is the problem that you're mixing up kanji? Then do RTK, KanjiDamage, studying radicals or any other method that lets you tackle kanji separately. Doing it might feel like a waste because you're not technically learning Japanese but trust me, it'll make vocab retention a piece of cake later on.

If you're just having trouble memorizing anything independently of whether it uses kanji or not then maybe try reducing the amount of new cards per day or splitting your deck up into both production and recognition and do both alongside. Don't burn yourself out and do everything at a pace you feel most comfortable with.

The way I personally study vocab is that I have one deck for recognition where see a Japanese word and have to pronounce and translate it, and a production deck where I'm given an English word and type in the answer in Japanese into a text field. I feel doing both makes retention easier since immediately after learning a batch of words I'm forced to type them and I have to get the exact reading correct or else the IME won't suggest the right word.

>>140834781
lold so hard fuck yeah that's a real meme 爆笑

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>>140834777
Well i think most people have that problem when things gets difficult myself included. But just keep at it and never give up

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>>140834777
I am a ミーマー

>>140834293
It's normal for mined words to be harder to remember than Core ones. Core is presented in an order that's designed to build on itself, like words using the same kanji will appear at the same time. There are also "easier" words in Core which you might not mine if you came across them in reading.

But in terms of whether there's a point, well, in general the idea of mining is to learn the words that are common and relevant in the sort of materials you read rather than learning an unrelated set of words which might not be the most common ones in said kind of material. But for the most common words they're going to be common in virtually everything. So if the words you're mining are more difficult than you would like or aren't necessarily the "most" common words, at first it's fine to do Core and not worry about it. Though if you prefer mining it's also fine to do that instead.

>>140835118
I don't think the words I was mining were uncommon. Stuff like 雑誌 and 目的地. I have a feeling they will eventually pop up in core, so, does it make sense to mine them in advance or just wait for core to naturally weave them in? I reduced the amount of daily core cards to do these and I feel like it's actually slowing me down

>>140835225
In that case it sounds like you would be better off just doing Core for now.

Does it ever end? Do the words ever stop coming?
If I had known the effort required to learn Japanese I wonder if I would've started it

>>140834046
I used to just push again over and over
now that I know most kanji its mostly easy, the meaning is the only hard part

So as I understand it I shouldn't learn kana I'll just get them from vocab?

>>140835612
You understood wrong. You can learn all of kana in at most 3 days dude, just do it.

>>140835642
No I'll just pick them up from vocab I think

How can しばらく means both an "instant" and "a long time"... it always fuck up my understanding of a phrase

>>140835870
pretty sure it just means "a while"
its been a while
wait a while
etc

>>140835870
>please wait a while
>it's been a while, right?
English is impossible.

>>140835118
>It's normal for mined words to be harder to remember than Core ones.
Ergo it makes a hell of a lot more sense to increase the amount of new words a day to be introduced using the Core10k/2k/6k whatever deck than stopping at some arbitrary point like so many anons suggest.

I really wish this stupid "do only Core2k then make a mining deck" meme would die out. For the same reason that the first 2000 words of Core2k are optimised for rapid vocab acquisition, so are the remaining 8000. It only does longer term detriment to beginners who end up running into huge vocabulary imbalances that make it a world of irritation every time they decide to read/watch/listen to something new.
The ten thousand words of the optimised core 10k deck a really a baseline vocabulary for a general range of accessibility. I don't know if the guide explains this but beginners seem to have no idea I have a feeling that most of the people who make the meme suggestion are merely parroting things they have heard from other beginners who have heard things from other beginners, ad infinitum.

>>140836046
Unrelated but, is it possible to switch from the 2k/6k deck to the 10k one without losing progress, when I'm done with the former? Or how does it work?

>>140835906
>>140835894
Then why the god damn deck doesn't say a while...
maybe i have a hard time with it 'cause in my native language words describing time are more specific. Ty anon

>>140836198
Idk
From my experience the majority of words are like this, you'll look them up and there will be like 3 meanings for everything but it's really just one concept a majority of the time

>>140836046
I can agree with sticking to Core at first but I really can't agree with doing all 10,000. I completed all of Core6k and honestly wish I had started mining sooner -- once you hit a certain point, the words in Core aren't the same words you most desperately need to know in order to get by better in reading. If your goal is to get to a level where you can read things as soon as possible, you should start specializing right after you reach the point where Core stops handing you words which are profoundly common (around 2000-4000). If you want to read fiction, for example, you need to be spending your time on words like 立ち尽くす, 尻餅をつく, or くぐもった声 more than you need to spend time learning "easy" words in Core that you could have guessed anyway. Likewise if you only read cooking blogs or something, if you want to comprehend their substance, you need to learn cooking-specific words more than you need to know the words in Core10k. Even if you power through Core it's not as efficient as focusing first on the words that are most relevant to what you read, and contain the meaningful parts of the content. And that's not to mention the questionable or insufficient definitions that plague Core.

I strongly suspect that the people who say they have 10,000 words known in Anki but can't read shit stuck with Core all the way to the end. If you specialize sooner you're much more likely to be able to read the stuff you read by 8-9k words.

How do i get a list of the 2k/6k words in the order they are supposed to appear ?

Core should just die. Beginners should be advised to complete the first 2,000 words of Anon 5k instead and then mine. Too many people fall into the Core6k/10k trap.

>>140836689
http://core6000.neocities.org/

>>140836842
you are the man

>>140836744
Core2k words are so by and large generic (as any list of most common words in any language would be) that I can't imagine anon5k being any better.

Does anyone know if there is such thing as anime with Japanese subtitles?

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>>140836046
>I have a feeling that most of the people who make the meme suggestion are merely parroting things they have heard from other beginners who have heard things from other beginners, ad infinitum.
More like it's just a fact that while Core2k is tight and focused more or less, Core6k and 10k go off the fucking rails with words that's just plain uncommon in fiction AND real life. Certainly, mining decks will leads to more struggling because the order isn't optimized, but the massive gains in proficiency compared to time spent more than make up for it.

And besides. After Core2k, one's main source of vocabulary acquisition should be reading, with anki just providing a boost. Whether you do a mining deck or continue core (or do both) is not a life-changing decision, it all arrives at the same stop.

>>140837725
There is

So how long should core2k take? After one month of anki I noticed I only have 150~ mature cards which feels low

>>140837844
How many cards become mature is really outside of your direct control, so I wouldn't worry about it. Core2k "should" take as long as you want (assuming minimum of 10 words a day, dont go slower than that)

What are the best beginner reading/listening ressources?

>>140837971
Animated materials straight from the land of 日ノ本.

>>140837760
>mining decks will leads to more struggling because the order isn't optimized
I love this "optimized" meme.

Having all the words that have the same kanji in them next to each other isn't optimised. It makes it harder to tell them all apart.

>>140838363
I disagree.

>>140838475
>wake up
>watch raw spongebob eps for listening practice
>shadow Sandy the squirrel's accent because it sounds the most intelligent
>start 英語 anki reps
>it's time to practice all words starting with "ba-" today!

I'm still beginning on learning Japanese, but how would you say "It's spring, but why is it so cold?" in Japanese with proper grammar?

>>140838853
It's more like "let's practice all words that have 'car' in them today".

>>140833550
They don't get deleted

>>140838952
>Fuck, I studied all these words about 車's, but what does 'caring' have to do with 乗り物？？
>ナンデエイゴヒト？？？

>>140838917
これは春ですから何これは寒いですか。

>>140838917
春だ、でもなぜ寒よ？

t. beginner

>>140839116
>>140839091
Hahahah ｗｗｗ 笑う 超爆笑

>add cards for like a month and a half
>stop studying
>come back
>do all my backlog reps
>still ahead of people who only did 10 new cards per month

>>140839270
kekkd so hard while reading this post... Such an interesting story ｍ８

>>140839270
>10 new cards per month
You meant per day, right?

>>140838917
I would say something like
春だけどなんでそんなに寒いですか
but I'm retarded, so ignore me

>>140839388
This one is correct 笑笑笑ｗｗｗｗｗ

>>140836113
Not that I'm aware of. If you want to transition your best bet would be to suspend the first ~6k of core10k and just run the two decks side by side.

>>140838363
>It makes it harder to tell them all apart.
Which means you need to pay more attention to the kanji and recognise it better, thus improving your retention 10 fold.

日本人が来たぞ
英語はわからん

>>140839881
Wow man! I just pushed something out of my アヌス because of this post could you be more careful next time?

>>140839881
go home, jap.

>>140839881
日の本の人か

>>140839992
おう、帰るわ　すまんな

Hey friends can someone help me with this I don't really get what おぼしめし means

こいつはシナリオの都合のおぼしめしってやつだな

>>140840512
It means 'Purification by the Holy Sword' it's Christian slang basically.

>>140840512
おぼし飯
It's a rice bowl dish.

Hey, DJT. So I'm moving to nipnongistan soon.
Would you take free LNs a and a few manga if all I ask is too cover the shipping?
I did the same thing a few years ago around Christmas, if anyone remember.

I just woke up. Now I'm taking a dump and doing my reps on the toilet. Wish me luck everyone

>>140840908
Ask reddit instead

>>140840908
No, I'm not a retarded お宅 so you can fuck off.

>>140840908
I'd ask for something but I can't pay the shipping. Can you buy and scan it instead?

>>140841108
What does Reddit have to do with anything?

>>140841188
I'm not buying anything. I'm just getting rid of my current stuff. This stuff won't fit my suitcase.

>>140840720
>>140840759
Swear I used to get serious replies on this thread

>>140841284
The first one is serious though.

>>140841540
Seems legit

ホロコーストは確かに作り話だよ。

>>140826387
Don't listen to that faggot, your English is better than most who have been speaking it their whole life.

>>140841721
I can vouch for that, my research supports this claim lol.

When choosing my Japanese name in kanji can I just invent a reading or do I have to follow some list of possible readings? I want to create a name for myself in kanji, I'm still keeping my surname though to honor my German ancestors.
I'm thinking of naming myself 央劉 「ヒロシマ」. The translation is something like Central Weapon of War.

>>140842525
Gaijins are only allowed katakana names

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translate it weabs

>>140842578
I don't care about such conventions if they aren't declared by Japanese law and I highly doubt that's the case since I know chinks use kanji in their ugly names.

>>140842640
>crystallography
nope

>>140842578
That's not true, you get to pick whatever you want as your name when you become a naturalized citizen.

>>140842640
find the volume each element takes up
so its like the limit of (n^3+(n-1)^3)/n^3 or something

>>140842640
Reminds me of Koizumi's explanation in 雪山症候群

>Chemistry

N-no thanks

Is there a section of the guide that tells me how to mine vocab?

http://www.kmk21.com/new_page_169.htm

どうしてそんなにたくさんの日本人はこの話に感動されたかな

>>140843384
No but a bunch of the things that it links to do

For mining you either want a texthooker that can indirectly support it, or rikai + a clipboard capture addon for your browser

I just ate some 美味しいクソ it was fucking great. My retention increased by 5%

>Used as a primitive, we change the meaning of the key word and take the shape to signify a nail or a spike. Should it happen, on reviewing, that you find the pictographs get jumbled, then think of jerking a street sign out of the ground and using it as a nail to repair your garage roof.
This guy is fucking mental.

>>140831455
That's きらり with the と particle

大きいく◯を食べました。

>>140843641
RTK is very entertaining, I was surprised at how dark some of his stories were.

>>140843641
Just wait until he stops doing the work for you and you have to make up your own stories, you too will go fucking mental.
>倍 - double
>This *person* was *muzzled* by the janitor for checking his *doubles*

>>140844966
Yeah.

>>140844966
Just remember that learning kanji is useless.

>>140844966
Yeah, if you have some kind of a learning disability.

>>140844966
Maybe for people who didn't do RTK.

>>140845387
>How do you mean?
I don't understand this.

>>140845703
No, you don't need kanji because only vocabs matter. You don't even need kana, just the pronunciation and romanji is enough.

>>140845831
There are a lot of kanji -> romanji sites out there.

>>140845831
He's trolling you. Anyways you don't need RTK, you'll learn the kanji by context in vocab eventually.

>>140845900
Yeah just don't bother with kanji you will learn them through your method which is working judging by this post >>140844966

Homestayfag here.

What animes do 16 year old japanese males like?

I'm gonna have to socialize with the family and may as well bring something to watch with the kid.

Unless of course he's somehow watched every anime already.

>>140846323
>Unless of course he's somehow watched every anime already.
He is Japanese isn't he? He already has every anime implanted into his brain, doesn't matter if the anime doesn't even exist yet.

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So when can I start reading Yotsuba?

What do these two phrases mean? Seems like I can't understand anything that has a なん in it...
なんだったんだ
なんか、nounが

>>140846502
Have you watched 10000 hours of anime yet?

>>140846502
>15 cards a day
You can't learn Japanese.

>>140846674
You do realize the deck was designed to be 20 new cards a day, which is what he seems to be doing (he skips some days of new cards)

>>140846502
>all that red
>1331 minutes
>72%
>440 cards
Kanji study is truly useless. hahaha

>>140846777
How the fuck do you you guys get like 90-95% correct? I've been doing this for months and my average is around 75%

>>140846837
Buy some brain implants maybe they will help you, or just learn the implants through vocab if you don't have money (which is probably the case) lol

>>140846323
Jojo's Adventures. It's fairly long too, so you won't run out of episodes immediately.

>>140847179
Fuck, can't read that vn language. Can't be bothered to translate sorry

>>140847179
>that big and small a

What is this?

>>140847380
It's vn-speak.

>>140847412
What does it mean though?

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>>140841133

i don't understand, you're not a house?

>>140847473
Why do you think I can understand something other than Japanese? I didn't learn that shit, I learned Japanese.

>>140847473
http://jisho.org/search/ああ

Why is the Kanji for Japan sun and book?

>>140847850
Because it got popularized mainly through the medium of anime in the 1930-1940s.

>>140847850
本 can also mean "origin". So 日本 is "land of the rising sun"

>>140848016
I see sun and origin, there's no "land" or "rising" in there you fucking idiot.

>>140848168
>you fucking idiot

I'm not the one asking newbie questions.

>>140848358
Neither am I.

>>140848168
>>140848016
ok now im really curious where people get the "rising" and "land" from now

>>140848495
Because they heard Nippon called that in English and they think it carries over into Japanese.

>>140848495
The land part comes from the country that the word describes, "the land of 日本" and the rising comes from the "sun's origin", the eastern horizon, where the sun rises.
I always thought this was obvious.

lol keep telling me i cant learn japanese, haters. we'll see how right you are after i'm done with 4 years of japanese college courses and 150,000 hours of anki training.

>>140848495
Because it's a country, so there's land, and the sun rises in the east, and Japan is to the far east. Holy shit you people are autistic, hung up on these details. The origin of the sun is the east, the sun rises from its origin.

>>140848495
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Japan
What is google

How do you learn grammar? Like do you make anki cards with grammar rules?

>>140848781
>What is google meme
fuck off degenerate

>>140848829
guide

>>140848829
You don't just read mangalas

>>140848830
You're right we should stop searching for information on the internet

>>140848956
no we should stop pointless meme-ing when people ask questions

毎日、日本語を勉強する！

When did you start reading material? After how many learned words?

>>140849241
20-30 thousand should be fine.

>>140849104
Wait, there's a contradiction in your post... Why do you study Japanese if you are already at native level?

>>140849241
I started at 1-2k words
Yotsuba -> Hanahira -> Flyable Heart -> Satsukoi
Now I'm at about 6.1k

>>140849320
why do you think I'm at the native level?

>読解
>解読
ree

>>140849476
Cool, how much grammar did you learn by reading otaku shit?

>>140849499
Aren't you? I though so based on your Japanese skill.

>>140849476
>1-2k words
Well, which one? That's a pretty big gap. And is that mature cards or just being that far in anki?

>>140849576
Oh no man. Those are some pretty early on words if you take the Genki route.

>>140849666
Just that far in anki. I'm doing Anon 5k.

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>open vn
>see this
>close vn

>>140849794
So that's what's considered hard for VN readers? Naruhodo naruhodo www

>>140849794
>open vn
You made a pretty big mistake just by doing that.

>>140838917
吸うパパ緑の葉っぱ
寒いなぜかもう春だよにぱー

>>140841721
thanks dude i appreciate it

>>140842640
i cant even understand math or science in english dude theres just no way you hear me no way

>>140846323
didnt i tell you last time to bring him a stack of american playboys

just fuckin trust me dont bring him anime you will be ダサい for life

>>140847520
where did you get my 写真 from lol

>>140849794
i think the wall of text would be much less daunting if there was a pretty anime girl or two

>>140849794
I wonder what it feels like to be able to read this fluently.

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>>140849931
You're right!
>>140849961
Open up an english page and read it, it feels the same. When you can read things fluently in Japanese it will be the result of so much experience with Japanese, that reading something would not feel any different than reading anything else.

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I just smoked a big 真っ黒な珍ポ

>>140850064
>Open up an english page and read it, it feels the same.

INENGLISHTHEREARESPACESTHOUGH.UNLIKEINJAPANESE.

>>140850154
When you are fluent in Japanese the lack of spaces will be less than irrelevant

>>140850064
i said pretty anime girl dude

>>140850154
And I can read that just fine, being fluent in English. In Japanese you have Kanji to help guide you for most words, it'd be even easier.

>>140850205
I am a pretty anime girl with a デカチン.

>>140848722
lol i got no (You)s, hahaha i'm in your heads. suddenly you realize i will learn japanese

はじめまして。
私はウサギです。

I just began learning Japanese, and I only have Hira/Kana memorized. Please be gentle with me, and correct me if I made a mistake
;_;

>>140850435
Use some memes and I will consider that welp...

>watched everything worth watching last season
>have no anime left to watch
Which old anime should I watch now?

For listening practice purposes, ofcourse

>>140850633
Utena

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>>140850280
ボクも同じ

>>140850435
<-- i got just the thing for you

>>140850633
>anime
>Japanese learning
はは

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>>140850633

>>140850633
pani poni dash

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完璧になるまで頑張れ

Anybody doing the kanken this year?

>>140850785
Which one of these are actually good though? When ever there is a bunch of old anime listed I choose one or two to try and I must always choose the shitty ones

>>140851104
No but i'd consider taking N1 if someone paid me to take it.

>>140851071
完璧なんてこと無いぞい
>>140851127
It depends heavily on your taste. Space Adventure Cobra for example is really great, but it's also episodic and not particularly deep so there's a good chance someone wouldn't like it.

On that list, the anime I would consider to be "objectively good" that nearly everyone would like (note: being a good anime doesn't mean everyone will like it) is: Gunbuster, Gunsmith Cats, Riding Bean, and MD Geist.

>>140851127
Who cares you don't need something good to practice listening you just need something half-decent and really long so that you can spend your time listening instead of trying to decide what to watch

>>140850677
Doesn't look that great but maybe it'll be worth watching

>>140850717
If I'm just going to learn Japanese to watch anime then I need to learn the anime Japanese

>>140850785
I've watched like half of those and the other half doesn't really interest me, atleast from the pictures alone

>>140850895
Already watched that

>>140851335
>Doesn't look that great
How fucking new must you be if you haven't seen or at least heard of Utena?

日々尽くめ
勤勉しても
未だ出来ぬ

大和の言葉
やはり無理

>>140851355
utena is literally gay

>>140851388
so is shinsekai yori and they are both masterpieces

>>140851407
oh no sorry you failed the exam utena is actually NOT gay

i just wanted to see if you truly understood utena or not ふふふふ

>>140851471
最高な計画ｗｗ

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utena

>>140851471
i actually havent seen utena or shinsekai yori i just wanted to test you for autism and you passed xDDD

>>140851593
ive never watched anime in my life idiot lmao

>>140851555
the movie was actually about as hetero as it gets dude

What does なんだったんだ fucking mean can anyone please tell me? Is this just a tongue twister?

I got to get out of here before Utena spoilers show up because I have it all downloaded and ready for a rainy day

>>140851738
You just casted a spoiler summoning spell.

>>140851738
>rainy day
This is a bad meme. Just watch it.

>>140851689
i dont know what it means but i just learned hiragana and i can tell you it translates to nanda tsu tanda

does that help?

>>140851689
i think your question is best answered with a video no its not rap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUz9xCTOPRw

>>140851738
dont worry all you need to know is utena is 100% NOT gay

>>140851689
何　だった　ん　だ
read tae kim

>>140851797
I already know hiragana, katakana and even some kanji.
>>140851822
Cool video, but it's hardly relevant here lol
>>140851940
I have, I get that んだ is supposed to give an explanatory tone and I know what 何 is, だった and the sentence itself doesn't make any to me.

>>140850633
Japanese talk shows are good for listening purposes.
Actually, they're better than listening to anime, since anime tend to use words that your average Japanese joe doesn't use, unlike stuff that you'll hear in talk shows that are made for common everyday people.
I'd suggest watching the funny ones like アメトーーク, 笑っていいとも! , or しゃべくり007

がんばれ！

>>140852029
なんだったんだ is a question.

>>140851617
why are you upset? you passed the test u should be happy xDDD holey sheit this guy

>>140852204
Great, thanks for making it even unclear... What's it asking then? What ... ? (Explanatory tone)

>>140852255
Just watch some anime you'll probably hear that line every 2 episodes.

>>140852316
That's exactly what's bothering me.
I hear it so often yet it doesn't make any sense.

>>140852350
Try looking at the subs

>>140852350
Here you go senpai
なんだったんだか
Make sense now?

>>140850682
That's a really cute book. Thanks for the rec.

どうまありがとう。

>>140852379
>なんだった
Was what
>ん
Information modal emphatic
>だ
Be (prevents explanatory question)
>か
Question (prevents explanatory answer)

>>140851689
"what was it?"

>>140852467
なんだったんだか　is actually incorrect as a question, although it could be used as a subclause

>>140852372
I've made a contract with the universe not to watch animes with eigo subs.
>>140852379
Not really omg
>>140852467
何？
>>140852474
So it's like "what the fuck?", okay, the only thing that's unclear now is why is there a だ if it's a question? Shouldn't there just be a の／ん?

>>140852542
just read the fuck more

>>140852542
it's not the same shit as the の question class

there's a wh-word so as an answer it would be like "It was what, you know" if it were that

and it's not a real inquisition so の question format would not be appropriate

don't think, feel

>>140852609
Thanks for the great advice, I just imagined a random sentence and decided to post it here without encountering it a lot of times in reading/anime.
>>140852625
So basically this phrase is asking for explanation as to what just happened? Or to what someone just said?

>>140852739
>So basically this phrase is asking for explanation as to what just happened
That
>Or to what someone just said?
Not that
I would expect なんだって for that situation

Can anyone tell me what
つかまったよお means? Tried searching on google, and nothing came up

>>140852792
Thanks, may 神様 bless your soul.

>>140852795
It means the same as つかまったよ
>>140852739
Yeah but you clearly haven't read enough
>>140852792
>I would expect なんだって for that situation
That's not really asking for an explanation it's more of a "say that again you little bitch ill fukin rek you"

>>140842640
Not entirely sure about the last part but I tried, not trying to make it sound natural but is it correct or not?

As on the figure on the right, the cube with the edge "a" is duplicated and aligned on each side. It forms a crystalline structure where each of its summits and its center contain an atom, called the body-centered cubic structure. Elements like Na, K and most alkaline metals have a body-centered cubic structure. With body-centered cubic structures, considering an atom A0, A0 being any point inside the space, its closest points form an area D0. Find the volume of D0.

>>140852937
>That's not really asking for an explanation it's more of a "say that again you little bitch ill fukin rek you"
Ya the way he worded it I figured that's the kind of thing he meant by explanation to what someone just said

美少女万華鏡の新作たのしみ
あれ読めるようにするためだけで、日本語学ぶ価値ある　それくらいいいエロゲだわ

>but it's suspicious whether I can go or not going by my budget.
Who the fuck speaks like this?

>>140848829
just watch this playlist on repeat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3ioRPuBcfw&list=PLwGjqS2iLnwV1lBfUo6VuWmMaWUJnxLMK&index=1

also download all videos and convert them to mp3 and listen to them in bed or any other time.

>>140840512
I think this is just another one of the infinite shitposts, but the answer is interesting anyway: apparently おぼしめし means something like 'His will,' like in
『なにがしあわせかわからないです。ほんとうにどんなつらいことでもそれがただしいみちを進む中でのできごとなら、峠[とうげ]の上りも下りもみんなほんとうの幸福に近づく一[ひと]あしずつですから』
灯台守[とうだいもり]がなぐさめていました。
『ああそうです。ただいちばんのさいわいに至るためにいろいろのかなしみもみんなおぼしめしです』
青年が祈るようにそう答えました。
and the 青年 is saying something like "It is simply that all sorts of sorrows are also His will, so that we will reach the greatest happiness." So here it means "what the convenience of the scenario dictates," I guess?

>>140852976
Sounds about right.
I got the fraction reversed in >>140842886
though.
>In a body centered cubic lattice, fix an atom A0. Let D0 be the collection of points closer to A0 than any other atom. Find the volume of D0.
For the solution: By symmetry, the atoms on the corners of the cube claim the same volume as the ones in the center of the cubes. Let V be the volume claimed per atom. For a given cube, each atom on the corner of it contributes V/8 volume, and each atom in the center contributes V volume. Since there are 8 atoms on the corners of each cube, we get that a cube (which has volume 1^3 by assumption) can also have its volume computed as 8(V/8) + V.
So V = 1/2

>>140853092
読んだことないのにすごい評価だなそれ
ていうか五作目だろ？なんで他の四作じゃなくて新作がそんなにいいんだ
>だわ
なるほど
新作女装者らしいし
お前そういう変態だよなきっと

>tfw losing mental stamina as I get over
I can barely finish my 600 reps in anki now, I keep falling asleep midway and just getting too weak to properly think about the words

>>140853283
3rd method: There's a 2 to 1 map from vertices to cubes. Each cube corresponds with the vertex in the center and the vertex with the most negative coordinates.

I can't help it. This is what you get for posting math problems

>>140853509
>600 reps
What's your retention?

>>140853669
80%-90%
87% today

>>140853509
Alternate between different types of decks. I wouldn't suggest continuously looking at one for more than 20 minutes.

>>140853715
I'm not studying anything but vocabulary though.

>>140853697
Set your new card interval to two days.

It could theoretically hurt your retention but on the other hand reducing the number of reps you do to almost half should undo that damage.

>>140853795
Pick up RTK, or some shit. Assuming you haven't completed it already.

>>140853800
I've had this philosophy for my whole time I've been studying: Less work, less results. Reducing reps will just get me less results.

>>140853475
エロゲのために日本語がんばれよと言いたかっただけだがすまんな
俺はあの原画が好きなだけで、特殊な趣味はない

>>140853883
You could spend that time on more new cards or more reading, though, as long as it doesn't hurt your retention badly.

>>140854172
Eh, when it comes to time efficiency, I could improve it the most by cutting out 4chan, but here I am. No point thinking any deeper than that.

>>140854274
Good enough reason for me

anki a shit
fuck off

>>140854389
I'll say it now: If you don't use anki, you WILL NOT learn Japanese.

>>140853509
That sort of fatigue sounds like the early stages of cancer. Better start chemo just in case, man. Only looking out for your health.

>>140854765
This is obviously false.
It will take you longer to get to native level vocabulary, but won't make much of a difference in terms of your production, listening, grammar, etc. And honestly those are harder to get to near-native level than vocab is. A bit of anki makes earlyish reading a lot less annoying though.

>>140854882
>but won't make much of a difference in terms of your production, listening, grammar, etc
Do you think Anki is only good for vocab recognition or something? The best deck we have for Japanese is the DoJG deck, and that's grammar.

>>140854882
Anki supports multimedia.
There is nothing stopping anyone from working on their listening comprehension using Anki.

>>140854917
my sides

>>140852204
>>140852255
>>140852379
>>140852467
>>140852506
>>140852542
>>140852625
>>140852792
>>140852937
なんだったんだこれはlmao

>>140852216
ive never been upset dude xd

>>140852390
no probs homie if you actually read it and more like it youre probably doing yourself a huge service

>>140854765
あんたがそういうならそうなのかも

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qcU9qm_LY

>>140854917
>The best deck we have for Japanese is the DoJG deck
Beginner shit. Irrelevant in the long term.

>>140854980
Listening is hard because each word sounds a bit different every time. Anki doesn't really help with that, it's just vocab practice at that point.

>>140854882
They didn't say "people" can't learn japanese without anki. They said "you". The person they were responding to, in particular.

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>>140843494
いいモチーフだとおもうよ

おにいちゃんも読んでみてね

>>140854882
It's kind of like this: Theoretically, everyone can have sex. However, in reality everyone on 4chan is a virgin. Similarly, THEORETICALLY, you can learn Japanese without using anki, but in reality no one will.

>>140855135
>Beginner shit
Not at all. It covers quite a lot.
>Irrelevant in the long term
Red herring. The fundamentals make the long term possible.

>Listening is hard because each word sounds a bit different every time.
>Anki doesn't really help with that
What part of multimedia don't you understand?

>it's just vocab practice at that point
That's 99% of language acquisition.

>>140855249
its kind of like this: theoretically i mgay however in reality i have a japanese girlfriend

similarly theoretically you can have a japanese girlfriend but in reality everyones gay

>>140855059
Name a better deck.

>>140855755
＊ちんこ出すんだ＊

>>140855804
Epic.

>>140855755
The moment you say "the best" you already lose