Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress

>>140824185
Its just a friendly reminder that she is a monster.

>>140824185
Not far enough.

>>140824185
SHO
GA
NAI

>Asks for food
>Saved everyone again

Did literally nothing wrong.

>>140824185
She's fighting back bloodlust. I've done worse when drunk and looking for a place to pee.

>>140824027
I really doubt they could, but from Mumei's point of view her meatshield was in enough danger to shut it up.

>>140824113
She seems exactly as arrogant as a 12 year old kid would be if given super powers and a privileged position. She's a bitch, but given her circumstances I don't think she can be faulted for being intolerant of the mouthy big kids she could kill with a pebble.

>>140824185
Holy fuck this american sounding dude

I'm watching the episode now and every time he talks my sides just fucking die

>>140824185
A girl's gotta eat.

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>next episode they go back to explaining why they're not a threat and suddenly kabane threaten them again
>capcha: bridges

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>>140824185
I really like that she isn't on anyones side.

>>140824185
No. Only easily triggered faggots believe that.

>>140824185
For the most part her attitude was acceptable because if she showed weakness there'd probably be even more fighting

But she was needlessly creepy and cryptic when she mentioned wanting some blood

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>12 years old

>>140824348
Boobs are too small.

>>140824348
Where do I sign up?

Storytelling was a wreck.

Using the exact same plot elements, you could have made the story a lot more interesting, with some selective editing, edit the dialogue and change some shots.

And I really don't know enough about kabaneri or kabane, so far nothing is playing on my expectations, everything is going as would be expected. I didn't learn anything.

I can only hope that they do something next episode to flip everything on it's head, and this episode 3 was just to set a sense of complacency.

>>140824348
Picked up.

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>>140823595
She's basically asking for another child

>>140824348
What's in the bottle?

>>140824185
Yes, she's tactless and just because she's hot shit she is disregarding everyone else's feelings.

She is severely entitled and unlikeable, but I kinda get it. If you are inmature and you become overpowered, is easy to feel like the rest is shit and you are the center of the universe.

>>140824348
I want clean Mumei's sweat with my tongue!

was the close up on her eyes showing she's competely out of it like Ikoma was or was it remorse for aborting a baby?

>>140824403
She's super cool and special for about 10 minutes and then she passes out.

>>140824402
The tears of everyone who got mad over her little speech.

>>140824402
Water and hormones

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>>140824185
There are many ways should could have said this instead of being an freak. Doesn't help they just finished surviving a zombie attack. At this point I feel like she intentionally just trying to start shit. Hopefully she gets taken down a peg after killing that women.

>>140824402
Liquid butthurt from last thread

>>140824402
>bootle
My semen

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MAZUI ZO CAPTAIN

>>140824374
I'd really like to see how, but in this place I doubt you could, in a detailed manner, speak your mind in detail.

Thanks for the opinion, anyways.

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>Ep 1: Solid intro to the world, significant gearing up and initial conflict, MC brought in, fights critical battle, ends up with greater body and weapon to fight the enemy army of transformed former humans.
>Ep 2: Decent follow up and pacing, MC heads out to fight off enemy threatening the boat^w train which is the only place people can safely be in an ocean^w land swarming with the enemy. He's successful, and then returns to base, where some of the natives are fearful of the power he displays.
>Ep 3: ...
Waaiittt just one second here, I've seen this before somewhere...

>>140824466
>killing that woman
She was a fucking zombie.

>>140824447
That's more than the average pleb and bushi.

>>140824433
Not remorse but taking another life still affected her. Both mother and child were going to die anyway, there was no way around it.

This show went to the pits

>>140824466
Humans had it coming for being retarded, ungrateful dicks. They're the ones that need to be taken down multiple pegs.

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>>140824403
>disregarding everyone else's feelings
>muh feelings!
You gave me a quite the chuckle, anon.

>>140824014
Holy shit, I just check and it's indeed getting a manga adaptation. Pretty nice that Monthly Comic Garden is free.
But there's going to be spin-offs novels.

>>140824466
>At this point I feel like she intentionally just trying to start shit.
No, she just doesn't care what they think about her and she has the power to back it up. She's probably heard the
>MUH ZOMBIES
a million times by now and has a zero tolerance for that kind of stuff.

>>140824185
>Oh, I don't need to tell you why I just broke my promise and barged into the rest of the train with a sword, you wouldn't understand
>Yes, I'm a vampire and consume blood for nourishment, this is totally a good time to bluntly mention this in front of all the peasants in the middle of their funeral instead of quietly telling someone like Ayame
She was needlessly provoking everyone and shooting her own standing in the foot.

Kurusu was a faggot for wanting to REMOVE KABANERI when they'd yet to show any signs of being liabilities, but Mumei certainly didn't do herself or Ikoma any favors in proving him wrong afterwards.

>>140824403
She's extremely defensive, because everyone is acting like a Nazi and treating her like a Jew.

WHAT YOU ARE HALF JEWISH?

TO THE GAS CHAMBERS WITH YOU!

SUFFER NOT THE JEW TO BE AMONG US!

GAS CHAMBER! GAS CHAMBER! GAS CHAMBER!

Of course she's going to be like, seriously guys, just fuck off.

>>140824466
>intentionally just trying to start shit
Seems to be the theme of thread more than anything
>>140824497
TANK

>>140824466
I wonder who's behind this post

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Meatshield

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>>140824553
>it's not enough to save everyone repeatedly if you don't kiss their asses about it too no matter what

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Has there ever been a nice orderly zombie apocalypse?

>>140824543
Quite the opposite, anon, that reaction image was gold.

>>140824587
>>140824592
Now this is convenient

Will ikoma change his stupid hard gay outfit?

>>140824549
So there is nothing really stopping her from slaughtering anyone since she has such a great power. The more disconnected she is to humanity the less of chance she will probably be on your side.

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>>140824635
His entire appearance bugs me

>>140824543
>im a lone wolf that has no feelings: the post

>>140824549
This. They don't like how she rolls? THEY'RE FREE TO LEAVE, DOOR IS THAT WAY. She's not forcing the civvies to stay on the train, they can go forage and nurture their feels if they'd like!

>>140824635
FUCK YOU

Someone has the webm of Mumei spinning jump?

>>140824660

He really needs to put on some new pants and a shirt.

>>140824618
Its a train full of superstitious Chinese peasants

They don't give a shit about anyone

>>140824367
you mean too big, you fat lover.

>>140824641
>So there is nothing really stopping her from slaughtering anyone since she has such a great power.
Yeah, at least noone on that train is gonna stop her anytime soon.

>The more disconnected she is to humanity the less of chance she will probably be on your side.
She's maintained this state for a long time so she's probably not insane. That being said if it came down to it it would have progressed into a bloody mess.

>>140824595
he's a big meat

>>140824543
I want to tickle Mumei's feet!

>>140824618
>not being a provoking little shit is the same as kissing asses
Keep telling yourself that, bud.

>MC gets bit and bleeds everywhere
>totally fine

>MC gets his hand cut
>turns into a blood craving zombie

I dont get it

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>>140824348
Ever since this season started, the only thing I want is Mumei doujins.
No rape pls.

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Wtf is this shit? Are you seriously telling me that loose little bandana keeps the virus at bay? And if she takes it off she unlocks her final form?

This makes no sense.

>>140824618
>not being an idiot by actively giving the Kabaneri dissenters more weight is equal to kissing everyone's asses

>>140824794
I don't think the hand cut had anything to do with his hunger

they just needed an excuse for Ayame to turn her back to him.

Why is she so retarded about how she asked? She could have done it in a much more rational, private way that wouldn't have shocked literally everyone, but instead she did it like an idiot.

And why didn't she tell Ikoma he would go full kabane if he didn't get blood?

>>140824348
Is she canonically really twelve? By anime standards she looks at least fifteen.

>>140824664
Why should she care about their feelings? Her goal is just to get to the next station so outside of sitting in the back of the train, she doesn't really need to worry about what they think.

Obviously it becomes a bit dumb when she's actively hampering her chances of hitching a ride along to the next station by pissing everyone off, but they treated her like trash even before she was acting like a little shit.

>>140824794
>>>MC gets his hand cut
>>turns into a blood craving zombie
Probably because it's been a few days. Even mumei is getting hungry.

>>140824641
She way it looks, she is seeking prey to turn.
She said she wanted blood, from the women.
She was expecting to see who was willing to sacrifice herself for the good of others. None did so. Once again, all seek to look after themselves.

>>140824500
I posted in the previous thread, but they missed some spots to to have little moments that increase your emotional attachment, and instead of using foreshadowing to increase tension, they used it to defuse tension by letting you know what was going to happen ahead of time, removing any of the edge that could have been there.

The episode narrative really could have been what it felt like to have someone who is human, who you share an emotional attachment with, turns kabaneri on you. Focus on the sadness, the betrayal of expectations, paranoia, guilt and shock. That would segue nicely with the MC backstory about his sister.

However, what we see is from minor characters, and people who are antagonistic. Instead of letting us empathize with them, they just seem stupid and shallow from the kabaneri point of view we are shown.

I mean, even if we can justify why the lords, peasants and samurai get all uppity, it's really not shown to us because of the story telling. We don't feel it either. From the point of view presented, they just look like retards. And you can tell, because most posts just write them off as idiots.

>>140824825
Magic

>>140824840
She's a 12 year old brat

>>140824825
The alien virus from GC was even grater bullshit.

>>140824794
it was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. He's been fighting this entire time and just losing blood. I don't even think he got the chance to eat like the other passengers

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The one with the superhuman powers capable of dispatching multiple zombies is the one that makes the rules.

>>140824505
>Trying to compare Habanero of the Train Fortress to the shitfest that was Gargantia

Just stop.

ADULTS ARE BAD AND EVIL AND USELESS, JUST LEAVE IT TO US TEENS AMIRITE

>>140824641
>So there is nothing really stopping her from slaughtering anyone since she has such a great power.
Well, no, there isn't. Except, you know, that she clearly doesn't necessarily want to do that. She's more like an actual, normal person albeit with powers. From the previous thread:
>>He'd rather save you and use you if he can
>No anon, in this scenario he'd genuinely want to save you. He's a perfectly decent guy, he doesn't merely want to use you, he's going out of his way and to a certain amount of trouble to do the right thing. He's not a "hero" per se but he's a solid fellow, he saw you drowning and he ran and got a boat and threw you a flotation ring and got you. But if you then are a total bitch about it and threaten to sue him because he scraped your arm while pulling you into the boat THEN yeah he'll toss you right back. All he wants is for you to have basic common sense and decency, a little "I really appreciate it" wouldn't hurt, but is it too much to ask for people to not be actively retarded assholes?
>Actual IRL I know that people literally have sued for getting hurt while someone saved their life, which is why Good Samaritan Laws are an actual necessary thing.
I live in a state with in fact a legal duty to do the bare minimum if I see trouble (like call 911 rather then just keep right on going). In actual fact I'm decently in shape and have had some basic medical training, and I'm completely willing to even risk a bit of light injury if someone's life is on the line.

But if they hurled abuse at me the whole time or said they were going to sue me because I caused their designer bag to get scraped or something, I'd just do the minimum and leave. I don't OWE them anything beyond calling someone else.

Same here, Mumei could have just saved herself and a few key people and shown up at the train while leaving the civvies behind. She could for that matter simply take over command at will through sheer "obey or die". She doesn't.

>>140824840
>By anime standards she looks at least fifteen.

By anime standards she could be any age from 1 to 1million.

>>140824860
I'd sacrafice my dick.

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Best girl of the fucking season 100%. I wanna ride her train.

>>140824904
Neither is exactly good, to be honest.

>>140824623
Isn't an apocalypse by its very nature disorderly and haphazard?

>>140824869
>turns kabaneri
meant turns kabane obviously

>>140824899
>that QUALITY
what the fuck is wrong with your player, fix that shit it looks like garbage.

>>140824698
>fixes glasses
>not pants
for fuck's sake.

>>140824899
Is Ayame really that stacked?
>>140824912
We young adult novels now. Really though, that's a lot of anime anyways.

>>140824936
Remove Koito.

Does meatshield's stone actually do something against the kabane?

>>140824825
Anon, she can roundhouse decapitate one of those zombies and get his shoes stuck permanently in a woode pillar. What makes you think that thing is "loose"?

Yeah it's no blue or whatever, but she also ain't human exactly.

>>140824924
>1 million
>not eternal loli creator of the universe
>not 27 billion

>>140824899
How hard does she want his habanero?

>>140824825
There is more stuff yet to be explained, for example Ikoma has the choker all the time now but doesnt look like he is in permanent strangulation state, same with Mumei ribbon

Also Mumei has not used her true power up yet (the glowing veins)

>>140824980
It hurts when you hit it

>>140824884
Yeah, I can see that. She had seemed pretty knowledgeable and collected previously, but I guess her experience only goes so far as the kabane. When it comes to human interactions and critical thought she's a fucking rock.

>>140824924
You know what I mean. I get that some people do the "lol this eight year old loli is actually a thousand years old so it's ok to want to fuck her" route, but anime still has relatively developed standards for what people of certain ages look like in my opinion. And even if she is really fifty and just stopped aging because she's a kabaneri, that makes her acting like a moron even more inexcusable.

>>140824988
>What makes you think that thing is "loose"?
Because her skin looks rosy and peachy, and she can still speak and breathe and anunciate like she doesn't have a vice grip on her neck.

>>140824798

>implying anyone can rape a habanero

So, seeing that training session got me thinking...

will there be Mumei x Ikoma femdom doujins?

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>>140824768
Super human controlling their fate? Yeah that's the one whose feelings actually matter.

>>140824826
>more weight
Mumei's got your "weight" right there you weakling human shitter.

Given what we know about Mumei so far, do you think she would have provoked everyone with the blood incident if she didnt get provoked at the start of the episode?

>>140825064
I think you might be autistic.

>>140824869
Yeah I see what you mean. And here I'm wasting my night defending the peasant's hate when the show failed to convey things right. Thanks anon!

>>140824589
MAYBE

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This girl wants your blood tonight. What do?

>>140825027
Thats it? I was expecting it to destroy the virus or stop them from regenerating as fast.

>>140824899
Ayame has some nice titties. I can't blame Ikoma for wanting to suckle them.

>>140824912
That's almost all anime that isn't "mature anime for mature viewers like myself". If you can't deal with it then you're going to have a hard time finding series you like.

>>140824948
Then why are you here? I don't get people who dislike a show coming into a thread of people who like the show. It's not even like you're fielding actual valid criticisms, you're a half step below a Frodo with your "HUR THIS IS A CAWPEE OF ANUDDER SHOE!"

>>140825055
We can only hope.

>>140824840
>Waah why isn't she a total beta
You know maybe she doesn't give a fuck.

>>140825074
>do you think she would have provoked everyone with the blood incident if she didnt get provoked at the start of the episode?
First off, she doesn't see it as a provocation

Secondly, yes. Girl's gotta eat.

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>>140824974

>>140825055
There will be many, many femdom doujins.
And none of them will ever be scanned.

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>>140825055
There better be.

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Jesus bloody Christ on a fish stick.

Poor lad.

Too far, Mumei. Too far.

>>140824185
>draw the 12 year old with the body and face of a 18+ year old
How to spot a series that is too casual to even consider having loli fanservice.

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>>140825055
Please yes.

>>140824185
Would let her suck the blood in my penis

>>140825127
>implying a minimum of self preservation is being a beta

I hate beta characters, but this shit is just common sense. Even if she could kill everyone on the train effortlessly, that would just cause more problems for her. First, nobody could fix the fucking thing like they need so she would be stuck, and second, she can't drive the fucking train. Even if she's twelve, she should be able to realize how shortsighted and moronic pissing off everybody all the time is.

>>140825100
Will white blood work

>>140825052
I see why you would think that. If we assume her body behaves like the one of a normal human, or similarly, that would be a clear indication.

>>140825100
Tell her I'm fresh out and only have semen available at the moment.

>>140825100
Unleash my period while sitting on her face

>>140825053
the doujins will all be kabane raping the habaneros, it's obvious as fuck

>>140824505
>Waaiittt just one second here, I've seen this before somewhere...
not even close to Gargantua yet.

it needs to go into full on zombie loving and slaughtering the humans that kill them before we hit Gargantua levels of bullshit.

>>140824553
>>140824840
>>140824850
She has character flaws, and given what we know they're all pretty understandable.

>>140825100
Small price to pay to win the loyalty of the one competent zombie killer.

>>140825146
Meatshields shouldn't run their mouths.

>>140825198
Besides strangulation and magic, the ribbon might just be some psychological bullshit she tells herself.

>>140824869
Just wanted to say really nicely written anon. That sums things up nicely, and is a more thoughtful reply then a lot of us deserve.

You remind me of one of the core, primary criticisms of the Star Wars Prequels (on my mind since it came up with a friend recently): that the audience was constantly told what to feel or expected to know things without being SHOWN them, or shown the feelings and interactions growing naturally. There was never any sort of connection, people would be "established" as "best friends" by talking in an elevator about how they did something in the past the audience never saw, and then the actual behavior of them would have none of that.

The audience needs to be able to see the connections and pathos of those involved and feel at least some empathy. And you're right that this episode was all set up to really make that happen in a great way. The writers seem to have not been up to the task though which is a genuine shame.

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SHE JUST NEEDS SOME BLOOD WHATS THE PROBLEM

Mumei had to be an arse about the blood because she would have lost control like Ikoma did eventually. She sure as hell wouldn't get any if she asked nicely.

She a good girl.

>>140825229
>She has character flaws,
there's a pretty distinct difference between being arrogant as a character flaw and just being a dumb cunt

>>140825055
Will there be asanagi doujins though? Fuck, he'd have a field day with this.

>>140824798
They will all be rape doujins, whether it is the soldiers restraining her upon learning she is a habanero and raping her or the habaneros overpowering her and raping her

Maybe even some of the MC overpowering and raping her

There is always a demand for strong, confident girls to get mindbroken by the dick

>>140825206
Sometimes against my better judgement I get a longing for a 3D relationship with a woman. But thanks to posts like these I'm reminded that they're fucking disgusting so that thinking stops immediately.

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>>140824869

>Besides strangulation and magic, the ribbon might just be some psychological bullshit she tells herself.
Or her cells run on oxigen and the choker makes it harder to breath rapidly

>>140825185
She wouldn't kill them though. She knows she needs people doing this for her, but she lacks tact. Is almost like if she believes the fact she is hot shit is enough to be venered as a goddess. That's why she doesn't care about anyone, since she is basically inmortal and she knows the people in the train also could use her power.

>Kabane slobber everywhere and eat people
>Two people talking and a mostly healthy color
>both rescue everyone
>must be a trick so they can eat us later

What does everyone think kabane are exactly in this world

>>140825267
And she is the former while you are the latter. Unless the show decides to make her the one who is correct, which it hasn't considering how people react to her behaviour, it's just a flaw.

>>140825100
>This makes no sense.
i open my veins and let her lick my wrist till she's sated. then I tuck in the little habenaro gently while she goes to sleep.

>>140825244
Someone has to give her
And she already picked who she wants..

Tea girl food distributer chan.

>>140825338
No, it's not, it's bad writing, and she's an idiot

Take off your waifugoggles, jesus christ

>>140825229
>She has character flaws
I get that, and that's a clear theme of the show that I appreciate. Ayame is well meaning, but is overall a wet napkin that can't really accomplish anything without Cunt-san doing it for her. Ikoma is a badass, but he's sad and sucks badly at fighting. Mumei is cool and cute, but has a huge ego and lacks critical thinking skills. That said, even at twelve I would have had the foresight to not shout "I NEED TO DRINK UR BLUUUUUUUUUD" to a crowd of sketchy, superstitious people with guns.

>>140825332
He clearly watched GC so he knows that he shouldn't trust nobody.

>>140825332
Well Kabane are shown to be pretty intelligent.

>>140825229
>Besides strangulation and magic, the ribbon might just be some psychological bullshit she tells herself.
I'd go with strangulation. The MC's pebble is confirmed to be a pebble, so I doubt there's a "magical source" that allows that.

>>140825332
>humans = /pol/
>kabane = jews
That should clear things up.

>>140825370
>it's bad writing because I said so
No, it's not. She is a young, arrogant hot head character. It's not bad writing because she hurt your feelings, retard.

Was this episode good or bad? Deciding whether to watch it.

Literally Valvrave: The Anime.

>>140825127
She doesn't need to be a beta to realize that provoking everyone is counterproductive to her goal of getting where she wants to go.

If she didn't actively act like a freak and pull impulsive shit with no explanation, including to the only person actually vouching for her, she'd get to her intended destination with far fewer complications.

>>140825276
I'll admit that's one super common doujin fetish that I've just never understood. I don't even mind rape/mind break of a random normal person necessarily, but having it for a character that could obviously snap everyone's necks like twigs just doesn't work for me. Dunno, seems even more chuuni then typical or something.

I am amused though by the very rare times this gets lampshaded. Like, bunch of guys corner the magical girl in an alley, looks like typical "she somehow loses her powers or is too intimidated by the dick to use them and gets gang raped" scenario you see a million times, then suddenly "lol you guys serious" and she transforms and obliterates them.

>>140825408
You forgot /tv/

>>140825438
Good

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>>140825202
>Tell her I'm fresh out
nigga you a zombie?

>>140825450
When do we get the steam mechs?

>>140825450
The Citizen Kane of Valvrave to be exact.
>>140825345
Is this the prelude to a yuri doujin of Mumei drinking her virgin blood?

>>140825450
but Valvrave: The Anime.is Valvrave

>>140825459
well she is a 12 year old with a stupid amount of power.
you cant tell me your douchey 12 year old self all hyped up on hormones wouldnt let your power get to you

>>140825380
>not shout "I NEED TO DRINK UR BLUUUUUUUUUD" to a crowd of sketchy, superstitious people with guns.
Well, she didnt do that. She never raised her voice and neither the housewives or Kajika were armed.

There's no fucking way the people were going to give her some blood even if she asked nicely. The humans are already too paranoid to even consider helping these two.

>>140825438
I liked the first 2 episodes better, but this was still solid. Guessing they will be spending 2/3 more episodes on the train, and the rest at the capital

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>everyone has literally 0 reason to believe that eren and mumi will betray them
>muh torches and pitchforks
>then eren suddenly gets so hungry that he collapses despite not saying anything up until that point because he lost like 10 mls of blood
>then everyone acts like mumi is betraying them when she asks for blood, as though simply putting some in a jar or something isn't even an option
>eren goes full zombie at just the perfect moment to create drama

I knew that it was going to happen eventually, but the show is finally getting too stupid for me to deal with.

>>140825484
habanero

>>140825380
>even at twelve I would have had the foresight to not shout "I NEED TO DRINK UR BLUUUUUUUUUD" to a crowd of sketchy, superstitious people with guns.
Did you had what could be considered inmortality when you were twelve?
Take that as food for thought, she literally believes she's superior to everybody, and that, on a survivality standpoint, is true.

>>140825393
No. Just no. They're intelligent in the way an orca or raven or velociraptor or something is intelligent, they can figure our simple mechanisms, use basic tactics, etc. They're top tier smart hunters. But they aren't fucking holding high level diplomatic negotiations.

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>>140825529
>eren and mumi

>>140825465
>tom kurusu = /tv/

>>140825529
Don't forget she killed a pregnant zombie lady and that's bad for some reason.

>>140825185
>>140825459
Wew lads you guys think that being Beta the universe will give you shit because it's "common sense", that's pretty funny.

>>140825438
Watch it and form your opinion if you have the time.

>>140824497

I think his name is Suzuki. Pretty much "Jones" or "Smith" in Japanese, so it's his adopted name.

Save us, Suzuki-san!

>>140824698
Fuck You

>>140825529
>everyone has literally 0 reason to believe that eren and mumi will betray them
Nah, you're actually stupid. Ikoma shouldn't even be considered but Mumei raised a lot of flags the moment she revealed her habanero status.

>>140825463
And then she rapes them instead

>>140825438
>Not forming you own opinion

Watch it, pussy. And for the record /a/ is the only place with pussy bitches angry because Mumei didnt let others step on her.

>>140825526
Yeah but I fear it will start going to shit after this. I want to keep the good memories while they last.

>>140825522
Then she could have just asked Ayame? The one person on the train defending her and Ikoma, who also conveniently happens to be the person of most authority on the train?

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So why's there a white guy here working as a mechanic?

>KYAPTAN

>>140825267
>there's a pretty distinct difference between being arrogant as a character flaw and just being a dumb cunt

Again, given what we know her behavior isn't out of line from how a 12 year old with super powers would act in a train full of idiots. She shows a remarkable amount of restraint.

>>140825380
>has a huge ego and lacks critical thinking skills
Given her position she's showing a lot of restraint when dealing with people threatening to kill her, which shows a lot of maturity. I stand by 'she was fighting back bloodlust' as more than enough to explain why she jarringly asks for blood.

>The MC's pebble is confirmed to be a pebble
Not from what I've seen. Just because he says it's ordinary doesn't mean he's right, and if it is an ordinary pebble the theory that some small token with strong emotional attachment can fight turning into a Kabane makes a lot more sense.

>>140825459
Her behavior towards people trying to kill her shows restraint and maturity, even for an adult. That is not the behavior of an impulsive child.

>>140825493
>>140825522
She is not asking for blood. She is demanding it.
Poor virgins, bitten and sucked by mumei and turned into kabaneri lesbian vampires.

>>140825655
Or she could get a few handsome men wasted and steal their blood.

>>140825202
How will you get erection

>>140825659
Subtle world building

>>140825529
>everyone has literally 0 reason to believe that eren and mumi will betray them
Except that they are not humans and the plebs are simple minded and superstitious, and despite beign assholes, the bushi don't want to take risks with non-humans.

>>140825330
Is it really much better to beat the shit out of them and dominate them with fear? That would just foster really bad sentiment in the station they are heading to, and create more problems down the line. I can get how she thinks otherwise, because she saved these dumb fucks TWICE and hasn't attacked them, but it still seems like a really inconvenient way to get what she wants. It would be much easier to just not give a fuck like she has previously and on the sly ask the tea girl to let her suck her off.

>>140825518
There are tons of bushi all around them with guns. She may not have actually shouted, but most of the surrounding people heard her and started to kick up a fuss. It was only a matter of time before the bushi started shooting after that, hence why it was a terrible idea to do it the way she did.

>>140825549
>>140825671
That's true, I was just a skinny beansprout at twelve. It just seems like a bad idea even if you are pretty much unkillable, considering how inconvenient having the people hate you would be.

>>140825659
a little cultural exchange before everything went to shit

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>>140825529
>>everyone has literally 0 reason to believe that eren and mumi will betray them
Mate their entire lives are dominated by the fear of these creatures, that tend to take a bit of time to fully change from human to brainless Kabane. Of course they'd be afraid of them and not trust them.

>>then eren suddenly gets so hungry that he collapses despite not saying anything up until that point because he lost like 10 mls of blood
>>eren goes full zombie at just the perfect moment to create drama
Agree with you there, that was kind of dumb.

>>then everyone acts like mumi is betraying them when she asks for blood, as though simply putting some in a jar or something isn't even an option
They just began to trust her and she breaks that trust by asking for blood. It's weird as fuck.

>KlK posting

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What is this face trying to convey?

So, they're vampires and not zombies. That explains why Mumei is so approachable when she was hanging out with the kids. I get the zombie-like qualities though, but even a bloodsucker would go nuts if they needed to drink badly.

I love how Ikoma isn't some generic hero. Dude got his shit kicked in pretty hard this episode. Sure, he'll probably become Zombie Vampire Jesus later, but it isn't instant (yet). They're building up how he's an idiot with a death wish, rather than some promised chosen one like every other shounen protagonist.

>>140825725
Baby kanaberi

>>140825659
I have never been more bothered by English words in the middle of Japanese speech than when it's done by a native English speaker funnily enough.

Needs more Engrish.
>>140825673
Hot.

>>140825659
This is a zombie apocalypse set during the industrial revolution kind of like gintama is a comedy simulator set during the shogunate with aliens

So I assume they imported white people to help them run the trains that white people brought to japan

>>140825725
She is sad she is a monster.

>>140825725
She knows she fucked up.

>>140824825
What if it's got the same stuff that makes ikoma's stone special weaved into it somehow?

>>140825725
bullying intensifies

>>140825725
The pleasure of double kills.

>>140825725
LOOKS LIKE MEATS BACK ON THE MENU

>>140825655
Yes, that was the only viable option.

>>140825725
She's going to eat the baby

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>>140825691
Mumei is literally a semen demon

>>140825725
She's sad. She had to kill the zombie, but there might have been a chance to save the baby, and she regrets being so rash.

>>140825725

where were you when aka-chan was kill?

>>140825332
Probably because they've seen what happened with that pregnant lady too many times

>>140825763
>So I assume they imported white people to help them run the trains that white people brought to japan
>implying
I bet these trains were built with 100% yamato-damashii bushido spirit

>>140825717
>Is it really much better to beat the shit out of them and dominate them with fear?
No. But try to convince her inmature ass otherwise. We already see that she doesn't give a fuck about other people's feelings. If anything, she might feel everybode else is indebted to her, considering her "weak people/strong people" speech.

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>>140825723
>that tend to take a bit of time to fully change
No, they don't. try watching the show.

>and she breaks that trust by asking for blood
Again, it was obvious that she didn't have to bite any of them.

>trip posting

>>140825725
>Shikata ga nai

>>140825529
Yeah, same. What a shame.

>>140825549
Yeah exactly, that's the thing, lots of people are mocking her because she acts like she's superior to everyone else. But mockery makes less sense when she is in fact correct, she IS superior to everyone else. That does actually kind of have a real effect on the equation.

If you're in a bar at night and someone comes in and it's a random pathetic kid who acts like a rich mob boss with a bunch of gunmen with him and struts, you can join everyone in laughing at them and/or wrecking their shit.

If someone comes in and it IS ACTUALLY a rich mob boss with a bunch of his gunmen? Yeah, you might want to consider moving along if that's what he'd like, and be extra respectful about it too. You are likely beneath his notice and he's not going to bother you if you're fine about it. But if you make a stink or act like hot shit and you aren't?

That's the kind of character Mumei is: she's genuinely better then the cattle and genuinely can destroy them at will. But she bears them no inherent ill will either, and in fact is perfectly happy to have them be alive and happy. But she's also not a some selfless emo paladin type who will act like she's somehow beneath them. That's a perfectly real situation, and normally you'd expect a significant number of normal people to respond accordingly.

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I can't be the only one who thought this was a girl

>>140825332
Smart people are rare in steam feudal japan

Mumei was born Kabeneri

>>140825845
>Not being beta makes you immature
this is rich

>>140825868
Nigga you gay

>>140825848
>>that tend to take a bit of time to fully change
>No, they don't. try watching the show.
Too be fair the first episode implied that there have been longer periods of transformation with how they monitored certain people and kept them lock up.

Typically though, that doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe it depends on the severity of the attack since most of the people we've seen become infected have had a pretty fair chunk of meat taken off of them.

>>140825710
With a prosthetic penis, the same way that Indian dude did.

>>140825620
>Ikoma shouldn't even be considered but Mumei raised a lot of flags the moment she revealed her habanero status.
The fuck she did. Here's the flags: she could have run off and abandoned them. She could have, you know, just kept quiet about what she was, they had no idea and she could have kept it that way. She could have simply seized control right then and there.

She did literally everything until then right despite endless opportunities otherwise, and in fact went to trouble about it.

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Oh my, this face makes me aroused.

Vulnerable Mumei is best Mumei.

>>140825868
That looks nothing like a girl. Anon, do you know what women look like?

>>140825725
This reminds her of how she came to be. She's a babby borne of a recently turned mother. Probably had her umbilical strangle her.

>>140825845
True, I guess I didn't pick up on that immediately. I need to rewatch the episode I guess.

>>140825923
You seem to have got lost on the way to /r9k/.

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So this Yoshida fellow will draw Kabaneri's manga.
I'm not sure his art is going to fit Kabaneri.

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>>140825529
>everyone has literally 0 reason to believe that eren and mumi will betray them
false
>muh torches and pitchforks
muh feudal society should be patient and understanding around things it doesn't understand
>then eren suddenly gets so hungry that he collapses despite not saying anything up until that point because he lost like 10 mls of blood
a reductive appraisal of his situation.
>then everyone acts like mumi is betraying them when she asks for blood, as though simply putting some in a jar or something isn't even an option
Sorry, but thinking like this is autistic as fuck homeslice
>eren goes full zombie at just the perfect moment to create drama
Drama in entertainment is bad now? So go listen to some white noise or something.

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>>140825868
Reminds me of far right

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>>140825848
The pregnant slut literally was on the train for a day+ before transforming. That's the reason the MC brought up the line that was like "It's a good thing I have 3 days in here to see if my mind actually transforms", because it sometimes takes longer than a few minutes. Watch the show bud.

>2hu posting

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>>140825529
Wow. I thought this was really shitty bait at first, but well done.

I'm gonna drop my newfag ID right now, but this has been my favorite thread on relatively short time on /a/.

>>140825923
>Failing to see it's actually her age that makes her inmature

>>140826021
Stay Beta.

>>140825845
What the fuck is this.
>We already see that she doesn't give a fuck about other people's feelings.
Why should she?

>If anything, she might feel everybode else is indebted to her, considering her "weak people/strong people" speech.
THEY ARE INDEBTED TO HER. THEY LITERALLY OWE HER THEIR LIVES. It doesn't get much more indebted then that.

And that's just the civvies, the Samurai should have all committed sadoku in total shame for not immediately swearing a life debt to the ones that saved their master. GRATEST DISHONORBU

>>140824869
I can pretty much sympathize with them. Once you've been overcome'd by the bystander effective in an accident once or twice, you'll probably get the perspective of the peasants. It's actually the most human way they could've acted. The problem is that the writing is assuming that we'll understand them and side with them. It's all just the post-apocalyptic trope we're seeing.

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Do you think there will be some romance between these two? Cause I really want it.

>>140826092
Thanks for strenghtening my point anon

>>140825224
Gargantia didn't do that in ep3 either. Ep3 was where the retards all acted retarded at him after he saved their asses from heavily armed pirates and demonstrated he was utterly invulnerable to them. Just you wait.

>>140825811
I liked her a lot, but then she shows her giant tits, fuck this whore midget.

>>140826174
What, that you're a child? Glad I could help you out then anon.

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>>140826171
She offhandedly mentions that he wanted to do the right things since before he turned into a habanero, and she blushed at his concern that starts caring for him when he fell down.

She wants his spicy D

>People suddenly hate Mumei

WTF happened??

>>140826171
I want Ikoma to cuck Kurusu

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You will never journey with Mumei.

I never asked for this.

>>140826171
Me too, but not likely at all.

>>140826221
Feelings happened. Lots and lots of feelings.

>>140826221
She has a don't care attitude, and that pisses off people who are intimidated by it.

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What a great show so far, next Kabaneri Thursday cant come sooner.

>>140826221
Turned out she had aspergers

>>140826221
She's too alpha.

>>140826171
I really hope not, there's no time wasting on shit like that. We're 3 episodes in and the pace is slow as fuck.
Remember this is only 11 episodes.

>>140826171
Dagger was pretty hot foreplay for him without his choking machine

>>140826237
Would you provide her with her daily meals?

>>140826221
Beta pussies are too intimidated by her.

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>>140826221
>WTF

>>140826171
So my prediction that this episode would be full of Kurusu sperging out as only partially true, but we'll get more of him sperging out next week when he finds out Ikoma's been trying to take a nice chunk out of Ayame.

>>140826343
I know right? Almost as cancerous as you.

>>140826221
Her EQ's literally 0 but the most major offense is that she didn't kill Kurusu on the spot right there and assert her place as the Alpha in the train.

>Ichiro Okouchi is in charge of the script and the series composition of this show
>Ichiro Okouchi is in charge of the script and the series composition of Valvrave the Liberator

OH SHIT

>>140826221
She's too retarded even for a 12 year old

>>140826221
Modern day college students happened anon. It's the plague of current higher education, a bubble that causes a regrettable number (not all or even a majority, depending on the discipline) of students to come out caring more about feels and procedure then actual action and substance, concerned with "micro aggressions" and the like over real stuff. It's something of an internalization of the worse of bureaucracy at an individual level, endless shuffling and responsibility shifting and form over substance that goes nowhere.

>women freak out because Mumei asks for blood and they think she's a Kabane that wants to eat them
>women freak out when Mumei kills someone that is clearly a fucking Kabane

what the fuck do these people want?

>>140826369
He sure loves the vampire rape shtick.

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I wonder if the child from the kabanes womb is human, or maybe even a kabaneri

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The woman in the middle has some really nice titties.

>>140826323
What's the safest and least intrusive way to do that actually?

>>140826171
All the butthurt Mumei fags will cancel all their BDs even though she's Oniisama-sexual. Can't have that.

>>140826369
Are we going to get CONSENSUAL RAPE next episode too?

>>140826293
How far could they possibly go with 11 episodes? I expect a S2.

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This scene has two major appeals, but I can't decide which I like more:
1. Being kicked in the nuts by delicious Mumei legs.
2. Delicious Ikoma abuse.

So anyone know the name of that engineer guy with the perfect English pronunciations?

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>>140825723
>>140826058
>>140826343
>first tripfag I've seen in a while, been so long I never bothered to reenable my filters
>he's a cancerous retard
Who could have seen that coming.

>>140826401
These people can't take banter at all.

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>>140826409
twist: semen sustains her as well as blood

>>140826422
Biba is most likely gay or at least asexual, he is voiced by Miyano after all

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>>140826468
I'de cum on her feet.

>>140826401
>Human women
>Logic

>>140826468
Milk comes from blood. 2ch people are hoping Ayame's ayames will be enough to feed all the Kabaneri after Ikoma pregs her.

>>140826171
Ayame will probably stick with Kurusu.

I hope we get a curveball and Kajika wins the Ikomab owl

>>140826468
only kabaneri semen works that way though

>>140826458
Suzuki.

>>140826468
Are we suddenly in nasuverse?

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>>140826459
>unironically defending the use of WTF
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.

>>140826514
>Ayame will probably stick with Kurusu.
I hope she dies a painful death and ran over by the train like her father rather than suffer the fate of being stuck with Kurusu.

>>140826441
Not when IMPENDING CONSENSUAL RAPE is left as the cliffhanger

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The princess has a beautiful and abundant silky bush.

>>140826409
They've already explained that their body is fully transformed kabane, only their mind remains human. It's a sane control-center on a mutated superhuman virus body.

That means the babies would be infected in utero and come out as 100% kabane. Probably out their way out of their mother partway through

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>lets antagonize the two people that are capable of saving us and could easily murder all of us at any time.

I hope everyone dies except the fat friend and the conductor girl.

>>140826171
I hope she ravages Kurusu at the peak of her despair.

>>140826514
I'd rather not just to see Kurusu get cucked

>>140826171
Good, icky boys stay away from MumeixKajika

>>140826221
I like her a LOT more after this episode.
Bitch actually has a bit more depth then the average puddle, semon demon bullshit.

>>140824894
>Kabaneri
>GC
>Egoist
I'm starting to see a connection here.

>>140826551
wtf!?

>>140826221
>virgins frightened of a strong female character

>>140826581
>conductor girl
*Koito
Also
>kabaneri can attack at any moment
>let the only person who can move this shit out of safety

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REMOVE KURUSU.

So i guess that the kabaneri have to feed just like kabane, or otherwise they will lose their minds. I wonder if that monk guy from the first episode with Mumei was her portable bloodbag

>>140826450
>Mumei legs.
yum

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>muh baby

There's literally only one possible outcome for the baby and it's supposed to be some shock that Mumei killed a pregnant zombie?

>>140826623
Its literally the spiritual successor, both shows share like 90% of the staff, also original noitaminA productions.

>>140826644
>Kabane apologist.

>>140826565
Kurusu pls go.

>>140824374
>Using the exact same plot elements, you could have made the story a lot more interesting, with some selective editing, edit the dialogue and change some shots.

The other WIT show, Owari no Seraph has this same problem, but much worse. I've seriously considered grabbing a video editor and trying to fix the thing. I could make a 2X improvement at minimum.

>>140826221
Because it's obvious her being arrogant pants on head retarded is just written in there to prolong the human/kabaneri conflict

>>140826491
WHY ARE MUMEI'S FEET SO SEXUAL?

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>>140826628

>>140826581
Murdering everyone would be a great way of getting the train you can't operate to the city you want to go, yes.

>>140826688
because they hired someone with experience to draw and animate them

>>140826653
>was her portable bloodbag
What a sad existence.

>>140826707
Sign me up.

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>>140826565
I love her thighs.

>>140826653
Actually speaking of that, why didn't Mumei just choke the priest guy as he was turning Kabane?

>>140826701
the problem for Mumei isn't getting to the city it's having enough food and some protection when she sleeps during the trip.

Now she has Ikoma to protect her and killing all the humans means her food problem is gone

>>140826653
Animal blood is ok for kabaneri

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>>140826707
>Sad existence
>Implying that wouldn't be the most blissful existence on this wretched earth
I just want to be useful to a cute, powerful girl.

>>140826674
Actually I was saying that Egoist is causing shows to start out great and turn to shit within 3 episodes.

>>140826701
Yes, because she was to murder everyone on the spot. Yes, she didn't ask for a little bit of blood.

>>140826369
Valvrave was shit.

This shit better have betrayal and trainwrecks and shit to carry it

So how is his little stone special

Or is Mumei his sister

I self-insert as Ayame.

Hime-sama gon git raped.

>>140826369
>Expecting anything less from the guy who did

>Code Geass
>Guilty Crown
>Valvrave

>>140826701
They don't need to murder the actual workers. The rest are just dead weight, the train doesn't need much to operate. Shit anon, did you already forget that the Kabane themselves could "operate" one well enough to just drive somewhere?

Other anon's point stands: they have huge power that they could have been throwing around and they weren't. No, leaving an entirely self imposed confinement and walking/looking at people (as opposed to, you know, immediately biting everything) doesn't count.

>>140826759
Nice unpopular opinion you have there bruh

>>140826764
>This shit better have betrayal and trainwrecks and shit to carry it
We just need the betrayal then.

For being a post apocalyptic hellscape the outside world isn't that bad. As long as you dont drive your train past the outposts filled with zombies. Mumei could probably just walk if she really wanted to.

>>140826810
I can't wait to drop this every week.

Don't worry guys, mal also hates Mumei as much as you. We got your back, bros.

>>140826810
He didn't do Guilty crown.

>>140826751
Why would Ikoma put up with her shit if she slaughtered everyone on the train?

>>140824899
Theoretically, breast milk is a derivative of blood. Hence the calling 'white blood' in some aborigine cultures. So if habaneroes need blood, they could just suck them titties, right?

>>140826818
Try proving me wrong.

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>you weren't able to protect this smile this week

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>>140826859

>>140826881
Ikoma already has a terrible opinion about most of the people on the train and they are the ones starting shit.

>>140826846
Now that she has Ikoma? Yeah, probably. Although they need some blood from time to time so their range by themselves would in fact be limited. If they were within a day or so (I'm assuming they'll need to do at least some fighting) then they might be fine though.

Probably though they'd find it easier to use the tracks in some manner. Like a hand cart or whatever. Frankly I bet they could make the train engine alone go by themselves for a significant distance, they don't need to know it all just to get a few hundred miles out of it.

>>140826771
It's just a rock.
BUT in it is sealed the god of the Kabane, the Kabanegami, from whom the curse was unleashed.

>Mumei beating the shit out of the male main character
>suddenly everyone hates her

how surprising.

I wonder if Kabane blood is viable or if it HAS to be human blood.

>>140826955
That was the best part.

>>140826955
>Implying it didn't make me love her more
Only normies dislike Memei after this episode.

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>>140824403
>If you are inmature and you become overpowered, is easy to feel like the rest is shit and you are the center of the universe.

She's only Overpowered for about 110 seconds. Sure, she has plenty of power at normal times, but the kabane zombies need her to unlock her power. After that, the muggles (or the american no-maj) can kill her as she has forced downtime.

>>140824374
>Storytelling was a wreck.
Was it really? This episode had to close some plotlines before they got too long and wasted episode time. It opened up some new plotlines. And it continued some other plotlines for character development. And it was necessary to try to grab various loose ends (shinto, etc) and close them because this is a japanese audience the show was made for and has to deal with japanese sensibilities and culture. The show was not created to cover the viewpoints of non-japanese people, but if you keep some cultural things in mind, then you can see why some time was used on various cultural issues.

Episode 3 doesn't create complacency. It clearly shows that people continue to be afraid and are willing to be violent if the kabineri show weakness. The urgency to deal with bloodthirst is also increasing. The "princess" is becoming less complacent and more active and even stabs the MC in a desperate reverse proof situation because the purple-cloth chiefs were fanning the hate fire. What and where she did it would have been less epic on a moving train, so having that take place in ep03 while stopped at the watering station was good timing.

>>140826955
At least half this thread loves her even more, and even the retards whining about her aren't doing it because of that it's because of POOR PEASANTS and Mumei being a BIG FAT MEANIE HEAD.

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Why does this habanero look like a pepper? Why was he spicy?

>>140826955
It would have been badass if Ikoma was the one being unreasonable. She was the one being retarded the whole episode though.

>>140826939
They can drink each others blood.

>>140826955
Who hates her?