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Yahari Oregairu Thread

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VN pictures are out
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>>140799819

BEST GIRL
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lewd
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>>140799875
>>140799819
GOOD IROHASU
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Is Wataru Watari writing this?
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>>140799875
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>Infirmary Scene
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Unlike the first Vn, Sensei will probably get her own route.
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>>140800003
Date confirmed.
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>>140799712
Beautifully petite chest.
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>>140799960
I give it 20 seconds until a pregnancy test is shooped in
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>>140799960
>>140800113
Someone already did
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Good Irohasu, everyone!
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>>140800049
Nope
>Hiratsuka Shizuka
>Happy New Years. Well, you two sure look like you're enjoying yourselves. That's what matters most.

She's talking to 8man and whoever he's on a date with
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>>140800596
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
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>>140800710
dumb frogposter
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Thats it, album here

http://imgur.com/a/t0qDf
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>>140799819
>>140799875
T-This
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>>140800596
why must you crush dreams
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Yukino pregnant end where?
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>>140799599
>it has saki route like in the previous VN
I'm relieved, best girl getting the Hachiman's attention. I want it to have them picking up Saki's little sister from daycare.
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>>140800776
>posting a second hand upload by some faggot

http://5pb.jp/games/oregairu/

http://5pb.jp/games/oregairu/character/
The images posted above and character descriptions are in the link above
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>>140799915
TRUE END
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>>140800596
But it has Haruna route? Maybe he'll marry sensei someday.
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>>140800973
Yukino would kill herself if Haruno got together with 8man in the main series. Seems out of character of she is just cool with it.
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Here's all the preorder shop bonuses
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>>140801852
You know the drill: buy three of each
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>>140801852
>no saki bikini or onepiece
Let the rage flow.
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>>140800003
FINALLY
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>>140800596
DAMMIT! WHY DOES JAPAN HATE CHIRSTMAS CAKES?
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Can anyone explain in a clear and concise way why chinks love Yukinoshit so much?
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>>140802162
No souls.
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Is there a Saki or Imouto route?
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Vol R spoilers
No official ones yet but there are a few common things in most reports
1. Inoffensive Yui end with no bad things happening. Promised date doesn't happen and it isn't much of a conclusion.
2. IrohaxYukino yuri is fun and happens
3. No Hayama xYukino
4. Yukino swallows her feelings for 8man

One thing I heard is some people are getting WA2 vibes from it. Also Haruno stops being interested in 8mqn.
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>>140802411
>Also Haruno stops being interested in 8
It was inevitable but I will miss those big sis moments.
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>>140802872
He went from being either the center of her attention or #2 center of attention at any given screen time to not even talking to him. I wonder why. He was so interesting to her before.
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Cats
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>>140803100
>BIG FAT
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>>140803092
Change in Yukino.
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dogs
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or death?
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>>140803138
It seems like she changes for the better in ANOTHER though.
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>>140803187
いろはす~
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Since it's doubtful that Saki will win the 8bowl, can she be mine?
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>>140801852
> no Saki
fuck off
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>>140799599
Much better and sexier girl than that slut who we got stuck with for most of season 2.
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The new VN seems to have romance. ANOTHER was romance, this makes me think the main series won't have romance. Looks like Yukino's main end will be a downer.
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>>140803564
It means Yukino's main end is the truth and what 8man will always choose, false romances and fairy tales are completely worthless to him.
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>>140803324
duel me to the death. I'd rather die/kill than see my waifu with another man.
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>>140800073
what a nice taste sir.
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>>140799875
Jeezus
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>>140803653
>not killing the waifu so nobody can have her
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>>140803638
>and what 8man will always choose
From the look of it he chooses pussy more times than not.

WW knows that the end will be a downer so the VN and ANOTHER are happy to shield himself from anger.
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>>140803836
ANOTHER and this VN are blowing Yukinofgas the fuck out. You should have seen the shitfit they threw yesterday.
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>>140803836
Sad for Yui
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>>140803889
Yui gets ANOTHER and the vn while Yukino only gets the vn.
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>>140803874
Im a Yukinofag and i dont care about Another..
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>>140801852
>tfw no vita
I wonder when will Vita emulators be a thing.
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What would Yuifags do if Yukino wins the main series in a dominant fashion? Will they still lick their bone called ANOTHER or will they be okay? Is it possible they would just disown the series?
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>>140801852
>That komachi poster
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who /Yukinon/ here? post em boys.
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>>140803765
Killing a beauty like Saki would be shameful and tragic.
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So does this prove that Saki likes 8man in a romantic fashion? That means she will make a move in the main series right?
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>>140799875
too lewd
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>>140804178
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>>140804256
I want her to make a move but I think Watari doesn't like her.
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>>140802014
>>140803404

Who?
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>>140803998
I am ISIS and I don't care about Islam.
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>>140803092
Because ANOTHER is shit. No one is in character in it
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>>140800003
Let's gooooooo!
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>>140804328
>Saki works up the courage to confess
>She has everything prepared and Yukino what she will say to him
>rumor has it he is dating Yukino her heart hurts but there is still hope
>She calls him out and tries to confess but he suddenly gets a text
>Yui finally woke from the hospital so 8man rushes out
>she never tries again with him
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>>140803967
And, you know, the actual real novels? Are you faggots really this retarded or this just more denial.
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>>140804691
But it will be loner or friends end. There won't be a successful romance between Yukino and 8man.
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What would Yukino do if she found out that people have been eyeballing her Pan-san and even played with him.
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>>140804752
Are you shit posting or do you really believe that?
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THIS SURE IS SOME ANIME HERE.

Go to /v/. You guys already ruined /g/, now you wanna ruin /a/? Go to your goddamn containment boards.
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>>140804915
I truly believe that there will be no romantic end between Yukino and 8man. ANOTHER proves it.
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>>140799875
delete this
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different girls to live out your life with. loners forced into clubs get so lucky with girls.
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>>140804949
here we go with the revisionist history now
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>>140804304
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>>140805000
>ANOTHER proves it
How so? If anything it proves the opposite
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>>140805137
9/11 was an inside job
The holocaust never happened
there wuz white slaves
the mayans had rocket ships
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>>140805000
If you have read the novel and the hints Watari spread around (his afterword, interwiew,character song, ecc), there won't be a loner end or a friend end, the most probable end is Yukino.
>ANOTHER proves it.
You really like to shitpost or are delusional, even Watari in his afterword have said to not consider another canon.
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When I woke up this morning, the wind was blowing from the north. A crow cried three times, and a single cloud rose above the trees.

Guess this means bittersweet end. Sorry Yuckynoshitters.
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>>140799960
Is this really a preg-

Come on.
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>>140800129
MORE IMOUTO PLEASE
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>>140799875
too much ass
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>>140805212
I think ANOTHER proves that Yui will get hurt sorta bad and she won't get the sweet part of bittersweet.
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>>140805212
>If you have read the novel and the hints Watari spread around (his afterword, interwiew,character song, ecc), there won't be a loner end or a friend end, the most probable end is Yukino.
It isn't. She is too fucked up, as is 8man, to hold a romantic relationship. 8man doesn't know who he loves and wants genuine, not Yukino's unshaven beef curtains cunt.
A loner end fits the story. ANOTHER was the happy end.
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>>140805158
That 8man can love Yui and be open to dating her. It proves that Yukino would swallow her feelings for someone else's happiness.
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>>140806444
It's evident that you are delusional and haven't understood the story and all the hits Watari gave.
8man have started the story alone, there is no point if he ends alone again, Yukino problem don't have anything to do with her feelings for 8man.
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>>140806524
You are basing your point on another that Watari himself had said to not consider canon.
It's the opposite, if Yukino swallow her feelings in another in the main novel it will happens the opposite.(even more if you have read her character song)
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>>140804752
There is no successful romance for Yui either, the closest she got was a dream world which counts about as much as fanfiction.
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>>140806444
>A loner end fits the story.
A loner end betrays the story Anon-kun.
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>>140799669
What might they do with those guns over there?
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>>140807977
Get Yukino a knockoff Pan-san.
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>>140800596
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>>140808008
What will she do with her gun once she finds out?
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>>140808369
Nothing, Yukino seems to be afraid of guns. Unless you were fishing for a joke reply. In that case kill the competition I guess.
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>>140808686
Yeah, of course I was fishing. That fear probably wouldn't be endemic to Yukino though, considering how regulated and scarce they are over there. I heard that only the cops and the Yakuza have most of the guns in Japan
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>>140806962
ANOTHER counts. Yui gets her Hikki in one universe and Yukino is JUST.
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>>140808686
That begs the question why she clings to Hikki when scared. He isn't strong and he is a bit of a coward but somehow he makes her feel safe.
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>>140801852
>WonderGOO
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>>140799777

Watch out, she's using her boobs to get her way again.
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>>140806769
She is dependent on him so she thinks she likes him. I think they Wil become friends once she sorts her problems out.
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>>140800090
Is there a Haruno route?
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>>140803136
Cat tats.

>>140803140
I prefer dogs myself. Particularly this cute, sexy puppy~
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>>140809412
unknown
I'd say probably not
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>>140803400

Am I the only one who wants to lift that shirt up just a bit more?
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>>140809376
Still delusional or shitposting
(the novel, her character song, all the hints and symbolism, even Watari and the anime producer have said in an interview that she like/love him) and you are still with this meme.
It's evident that you haven't understood one bit of the novel, believe what you want.
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>>140809616
Why not? If she doesn't get 8man I am sure she would want him to be with her sister. Keeps a good friend close and she will be happy if 8man made Haruno happy.
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>>140800129
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>>140809688
>the anime producer have said in an interview that she like/love him
[citation needed] fampai. Her character song can refer to Yui and 8man together or maybe even Hayama.
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>>140799599
>>>/jp/
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>>140804166
Why do you care so much, falseflagging Irohafag-kun?
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>>140809785
>fampai
Kill yourself retard.
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>>140809830
/jp/ is so shit these days they don't even recognize some old eroge like KiraKira, I'm so disappointed. At least it was interesting when Umineko was releasing.
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>>140809785
Sorry Anon but none of her words correspond to either Yui or Hayato,

The only person who's her eyes met hers at dusk was Hachiman.
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>>140809785
The interview was some thread ago and the anime author have said that she realize that she loves him in ep 11, Watari have said the same thing in another interview.
>Her character song can refer to Yui and 8man together or maybe even Hayama.
This proves that you are a fucking autist.
Its clear as day that she refer to 8man, she mentioned her photo taken on the ride of sprite mountain, the stuffed toy 8man gave her in vol 3, the infirmary scene, and their story so far, she even wonder once her feelings get to him what will happen and she clearly states a future with him).
So....go fuck yourself instead of writing bullshit.
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>>140810039
>retard
kill yourself fampai
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>season 2 designs
What went wrong?
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"Hikigaya, meet me in the club-room later, I've got a surprise for you."
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Yui winning make me feel good. She deserved it and it is looking good for her in the main novel.

>>140810177
>The interview was some thread ago and the anime author have said that she realize that she loves him in ep 11, Watari have said the same thing in another interview.
That never happened.

>>140805625
Shut it. That won't happen. Don't say that again.
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Is it genuine to use a condom?
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>>140810062
Kirakira has H content? I never finished it.
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>>140811038
Continue to live in your little world anon-kun
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>>140811136
No
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>>140810616
Everyone looks better except yukino.

Feel are yuifags
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>>140811351
The colors are terrible.
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>>140811351
Yukino's design had to change for S2 to make her look more frail.
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>>140811161
But WW never said that Yukino loved 8man.
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>>140811538
>what is the sprouts
Come on.
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>>140811351
Nah Saki looks terrible now.
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>>140811586
I also like season 1 Haruno way more.
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>>140811580
Yukino denied him friendship in vol 6.
The "sprouts" happened in vol 7.
The "sprouts" refers to friendship.
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>>140811580
The sprouts is a different thing.
It's when something is sprouting and they can't explain what it is.

Yukino's feelings for 8man are revealed during the infirmary scene.
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>>140811038
>>140811538
>That never happened.
Found it, when i found the other with Watari i will post it delusional anon-kun. Watari said something along the lines that she realize her feelings for 8man.
>https://kyakka.wordpress.com/2015/06/15/oregairu-zoku-random-interview/
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>>140811639
The sprout, its not friendship, is something that she doesn't know how to explain "her feelings for him"
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IS THERE A IROHA ROUTE???
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>>140811782
She was in love with Hayama so she knows love. She is used to friendship with anyone, especially a male. She is used to guys falling for her but 8man hasn't so she has never been this far into friendship.

>>140811711
>the themes of love relationships and human relationships begin to intermingle.
That isn't a declaration that Yukino loves him.

>>140811661
The one she shares with Hayama in ANOTHER.
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>>140811957
She shares nothing with Hayama in another, not even the rumors.
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>>140811957
Kill yourself Yuipollfag.
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>>140811957
I see.

Well, thier friendship will be deep. They will take care of each other's emotional needs and sexual needs. As good friends with a healthy relationship they can live together and raise children. They will be friends for life.
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>>140811957
Can you stop shitposting autist kun who can't even read.
She was not in love with Hayama in the main novel its not stated anywhere same for another, even the spoiler of the last vol said it. She doesn't know love until 8man (thats why she is clumsly)
The sprout are her feelings for him.
I'm done talking with autist like you Yuipollfag you're the cancer of these thread.
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>>140811789
>implying it would come out without a true ending route
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>Yui won ANOTHER
>it is a really happy end
I feel good she got a happy end but it feels random to make a novel series just to give her a happy end.
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>>140812306
YES I AM AWAITED
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>>140812634
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I am disappointed Yui won ANOTHER because I wanted to see her get her heart ripped out of her chest and leave her a crying, quivering mess.
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>>140812877
I am disappointed as well, just not for those reasons.
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>this thread
>Irohafags shitting on Yui and falseflagging as Yukino or Yuifags
>everyone else just bandwagoning said behaviour

Ah, Yahari threads as per usual.
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>>140812998
>Ah, Yahari thread shitposting, as expected.

FTFY
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>>140812998
I'd say Iroha fags don't bother doing that cause it's literally no contest, yukino and yui can argue about who becomes the side bitch
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw4XuKd_n6U
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Now nothing stands in the way of her glorious victory and the eternal asspain of the Yukino haters.
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SENSEI ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!!!
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saize
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Yukinofags have been getting uppity despite the fact that Yukino lost in ANOTHER and it was Yui's big, easy win. No stopping Yui, she is going for back to back wins.
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>>140813439
>Yuifags have been rather obnoxious since Yui won in an AU universe where all the characters act out of character and the entire story just got ignored
Ftfy
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>>140812877

You're not thinking about ANOTHER in the proper context. Have you ever watched the video An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge? It's a french film that appeared on the Twilight Zone. Basically dude during the Civil War is about to get hung, the rope breaks, he escapes the gunshots and flees all the way to his wife. Just before he reaches his wife who is calling out to him, it cuts back to the present, we find out the whole thing was a delusion in his mind just before the rope drops and his neck breaks, killing him.

That's what ANOTHER is. In vol 12 Yui will get fucking destroyed as expected. She will decide she can't go on living without her Hikki. So she hangs herself in her room. ANOTHER is the fevered delusion that runs through her mind just before her neck breaks. It's a toy world where everyone is perfectly attuned, no one has any problems, and everyone exists to please Yui and give her the "happy end" she wishes for. So after her neck snaps in the real world, she will die with a smile on her face.
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anyone got a link to that post with Yukino at 8mans grave after he saves a bunch of kids or something?
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>>140800003
Wait, so the first vn only had sensei as bad end?
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Reminder that Yuckyno YukinoSHITa is objectively the worst girl.
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>>140813550
9/10
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Reminder that memes cannot stop Yukino's inevitable victory.
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>no Saki lewds
T-that's okay, I d-didn't want any anyways I guess...
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>>140814218
Reminder that Yukino is literally a meme girl.
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>>140814244

That's not how you say Iroha, Queen of Memes, Dubs, and Shitposting
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>>140814219
Well i've found a Saki lewd
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>>140814219
Wait, I've found another one
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>>140812634
>>140812718
GOOD IROHA
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>>140801852
MUH.
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>>140802162
She's perfect.
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>>140802162

Every single living creature great or small in the entire world, galaxy, universe, and multiverse loves Yukino Yukinoshita unconditionally except for you. And every disagreeing response to this is also you. You can't fool me, faggot.
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> "Still, it's just a thank you." Yuigahama spoke with a voice that sounded like she was being crushed to death. Her expression was contorted as she bit her lips lightly.

Fucking brutal, Yui.
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>>140816094
>Yukino Yukinoshita
>Yukino Yukino
>Yukino
Really, niggers?
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>>140816475

Someone can't handle all that "snow beneath the snow".
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>>140799875
What a slut.
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>>140816547

As always Yukino keeps way more classy than Iroha "I've sucked a thousand dicks and want more" Isshiki.
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>>140799875
Who just "presents" themselves like that in public

Fucking gross

I wonder how big her butthole gap is there.
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This looks fun, I wonder if anyone would transl-
>Vita only
why do japs insist on releasing VNs exclusively on dead mobile consoles
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>>140816680
>>140816547
>>140816617

What's wrong with being confident with your body? Holy fucking shit, kill yourselves.
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>>140816816
Yuckynofags are insecure.
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>>140816729
Fuck if I know, hmm isn't there a PS Vita emulator?
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>>140816617
>Classy
Unappealing is the word you're looking for
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>>140816932

Nah, not acting like a whore is more appealing than behaving like one.
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I want to enjoy these pics but the art is so fucking derpy
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>>140816976

Yeah I feel ya. It just seems off somehow.
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>>140816816
Yukino has nothing to feel confident about so they feel insecure about liking a washboard.
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>>140816816
>go to a sauna
>decide to awkwardly climb on the bench, spread my cheeks and lift my ass in the air
>"eww, what the fuck man, cut that out"
>IM JUST CONFIDENT ABOUT MY BODY HURT
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>>140799819
>>140799875
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>>140816972
You must have got the wrong impression, if you've got the assets, why not show them? Yukino on the other hand, doesn't have any, and thus tries to hide away, you can see how depressed she is by her face
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>>140806444
>Iroha end fits the story
Fixed that for you, Watari hasn't even been subtle about it.
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>>140817149

> if you've got the assets, why not show them?

You've got the slut mindset pegged. Good on you.
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>>140817188

> pathetically clinging to every tiny scrap WW throws your way as if they mean anything whatsoever

Never change Irohafags.
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>>140801852
>Saika poster
It's like they know
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>>140817203
>Ignores the rest of the post
You know it be true.
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>>140800596
Fuck
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>one of the secondary girls shows off nice bod in a mildly provocative pose
>both her fans and haters get triggered to an absurd degree
Now I remember why I left the threads when this was airing
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>>140800596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2_oFE9ovNk
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>>140817236
You got me, anon. Appreciating the narrative without character bias is awful, as is having the author vocally support my ending prediction online. This is true suffering.
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>>140817471

She's not "mildly provocative", she's stark naked.

I suspect that for both Iroha and Yukino, this hot springs scene is a peeping tom scenario.
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>>140817544

> Appreciating the narrative without character bias
Comical

> author vocally support my ending
See "pathetically clinging to scraps"
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>>140817471
Well no wonder. Not only is she cute, but Iroha is HOT!
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>>140817611
If there's anything good that came out of those cancerous circlejerks it's the "Iroha or death" memes. Some of them were pretty creative and always made me smile
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Iroha > Yui > Saki > Komachi > Haruno > Yumiko > the rest > shit > Yuckyno
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>>140817724
>anyone above Saki
>Haruno that low
I'm sorry, but you only get a b8/10.
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>>140817544
True suffering is having to put up with Yukino shitposters in the first place. Volume 12 can't come soon enough.
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>>140817691
Haha, yeah. Even if she doesn't win, she won our hearts. And at the end, isn't that all that matters?
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>>140817724
>>140817691
>>140817611

My niggers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxzDqFqboZY
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>>140817853
>those chink runes
DELET
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いろはす~
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>>140817825
Yes. Irohafags don't support her because they're sure she'll win, but because she's cute, fun to watch, and meshes great with 8man.

That's why it's Iroha or death, m8.
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>>140817892
Even though I fucking hate chinks, I gotta admit they did a pretty good job on this one
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>>140811141
man, that was actually my first VN
I remember playing it on my iPod and yeah it has some ero content, not much, but some
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The Real winner. She will end up with the man, all because of one inarguable reason.
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>>140799819
>>140799875
I will import this even thought I don´t know moon. I need that OVA.
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>>140818107
>falling for the red herring meme
Speak for yourself.
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>>140818272
I can't fucking wait for the 10.5 OVA
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>>140818272
DELETE THIS
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>>140818272
>red herring meme
What?
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>>140818269
I need to buy something to record my Vita TV so I can sub Iroha's route
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>>140818299
I can do without the long thinly-veiled rant about author deadlines, but the date will be nice.
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>>140801852
So GEO customers are gay?
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>>140818381
Red herring is referring to the stubborn claim that Iroha's mountain of romantic development with 8man doesn't actually mean anything, thus calling many of her scenes (such as the pic) a red herring.
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>>140817853
The fuck
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>>140818899
8man is a tsundere
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>>140818724
Oh, I remember those claims. I'm not calling her a red herring or saying she has no chances at all. I'm saying most people who like her probably aren't going to stop even if they thought she had a 0.0000000001% chance to win.
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>>140804949
Fuck off
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>>140817853

will this game ever get english translation or am I going to have to learn moon runes
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>>140818980
I think 8man is just like about half the people here
too stupid to figure out a girl is practically signalling a plane to land on her vagina to get his attention and get in his pants
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>>140819228
>practically signalling a plane to land on her vagina to get his attention and get in his pants
This doesn't happen to people here
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>>140799599
>>140799636
This is Vita-exclusive right? So no pirating?
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>>140799636
Why is she throwing a snowball at 8man?
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>>140819228
>>140819602
Lel
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>>140819064

Better get to studying.

There has been a slight precedent in recent years for Vita VNs get a localization, but Oregairu is probably not popular enough.
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>>140819676
She's trying to mess up his clothes so she can drag him to her house and fuck him.
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>>140819010
My mistake, I initially thought that you were implying she didn't have a good chance to win. I do however think that a love interest's strength should correlate to their likelihood to succeed; Iroha didn't become so popular on accident.
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>>140799599
Who cares? Watari already destroyed everything his series stood for.
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>>140819714
>>140819064

There have been a deluge of VNs on the Vita recently that have gotten localized. But these series tend to be on the level of popularity of Steins:Gate and PSYCHO-PASS. Or they are established VN series in Japan that are super popular over there.
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>>140820163

> I do however think that a love interest's strength should correlate to their likelihood to succeed

Eh I dunno. I'm not saying Iroha is a side character necessarily, but it's not that unusual for a segment of a fanbase to latch onto a no-chance girl and love her to death.

The odds of Iroha winning the main story is low. The theory that was getting promulgated before Volume R is likely true: ANOTHER for Yui, 10.5 OVA for Iroha (they may even go so far as to alter the story to make an Iroha end feel more definitive than the volume itself did), main series for Yukino.
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>>140820163
Thinking about again, I guess you have a point. If a ship's well liked, there's usually at least some level of plausibility from either character compatibility or muh setup.
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>>140820502

Her vacant eyes make her look like she's been hit with one of those magical devices in hentai that turns girls into sex slaves.
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>>140820210
They're not localized because

>Vita is a dead mobile
in the West, so nobody brings stuff over for it unless it's really niche and cheap to get, and

>Vita emulation
doesn't exist.
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>>140820908

That's the thing though. Vita has been mostly dead for a while, but the VN deluge started relatively recently.

The console is dead, but the ones who have it are very loyal to specific weeb genres.
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>>140820191
By making Yukino and Yui fall for 8man.
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>>140818899
Is that Hayama at her right?
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>There's a VN out
Man, I really did miss a ton.
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>>140821257

I don't think so, but it does almost look like a bolo tie.
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Why the fuck does Hayama wear a bolo tie?
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>>140820970
The Vita wasn't dead in Japan, it's basically a success there. It's bigger than the N3DS.
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>>140821427
To show he's half-japanese.
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>>140821447

Yeah but we're talking about VNs get localized. It's been happening an unusual amount in the last couple of years on Vita. Not enough that a small-time VN like Oregairu stands a chance, unfortunately.
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When will Yukino stop pretending to be in love with 8man?
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>>140820311
It's a failure of the author if their readership ends up preferring a love interest they did not intend to. A very difficult failure to avoid at times, but a failure nonetheless. There are plenty of prime examples (Infinite Stratos, Aquarion EVOL, pretty much any harem) where the author fails to adequately differentiate the main love interest from their competition, as well as cases where they succeed (Toradora, Spice and Wolf, Princess Tutu).

Iroha's popularity as a love interest is very observably deliberate, many of her scenes and her general story relevance simply do not serve any purpose other than to develop her as a love interest, the other heroines by comparison are too mired in constant conflict to get that luxury. The only reason people can't let go of either one is because they can't wrap their mind around the idea of Watari breaking the "first girl wins" cliche in a story called "my youth romcom is wrong as expected".
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>>140821257
Yes, that's him

>>140821372
The 2nd one isn't out yet
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>>140821547
I should have typed "Didn't even know a second one was announced."

My bad, b.
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>>140821476
>mfw the VN will likely never be translater
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>>140821427
He's actually Southern. Being a pretty white gaijin is the real reason he's a cunt.
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>>140821587
There's the ova, so be satisfied with that. I'm not expecting much from the game.
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>>140821676
I just hope that if there is a sensei route in the 2nd VN, that it won't be like the first
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>>140821508
My reasoning for why Iroha won't make it isn't meta bullshit, 8man just cares so much more about Yukino and Yui.
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>>140821587
I'll do it only the Iroha route though if I get something to record my Vita TV with
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>>140821508

I would say it's because her scenes are very minor from a romance point of view. The date in 10.5 is the most significant but even that doesn't match the sort of romance flag that Yukino got in the infirmary scene. Indirect kiss is pretty much irrelevant.

Again and again and again Yukino dominates 8man's thoughts. She's the constant, enduring impetus for Hachiman to act. Iroha doesn't even really exist in 8man's mind when she's not actually present and doing something to get his attention.

And now we're at vol 12 and the story is set up where we know Yukino is going to dominate it. The title of the series doesn't mean "the girl who doesn't make narrative sense to win is going to do it". The title is referring to Hachiman and his sour outlook, that has never gone away even after all that has happened.

Let me be clear that I don't dislike Iroha. She's one of my favorite characters actually. Her fandom can be uniquely aggravating, but every fandom in this series can get annoying in its own way. But she's just not going to win. And it's the characteristic of Irohafags that when she doesn't win in vol 12, you won't be able to find one in these threads that will ever admit to believing she had a chance in the first place.
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>>140800003
>>140800049
I don't get it, what's the appeal of sensei?
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>>140816094
What about the dogs? Wouldn't she freak out?
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>>140821831
But the reasons for Yukino dominating 8man's thoughts are so fucking shallow that as a reader I can't take it seriously.
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>>140821868
If you have to ask, you'll never know
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>>140821939

Then your problem is with the series as a whole and with WW as a writer. But it is what it is.
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>>140821508
>many of her scenes and her general story relevance simply do not serve any purpose other than to develop her as a love interest
This is actually something that I find striking about Iroha. She's pretty much been shoved into the spotlight far harder than others to the point where you might as well just call her the third girl.

I don't like to jump too fast on conclusions in stories on principle, but I can't shake the impression she's being setup for something significant, especially when WW said he wanted to write a sequel.
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>>140799875
M U H
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>>140821508
>Infinite Stratos
There's a main love interest in that one?
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>>140822150
It's always the first girl anon.
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>>140799875
B E S T
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>>140821956
No, really. Hag, smells of cigarettes, wears masculine un-cute clothing, unpleasant personality.
Why?
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>>140821868
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>>140822205
>>
>Pick Yukino or Yui
8man's shit gets fucked up and he loses one of the most important people to him. He will end up hurting one of them badly and ruining their friendship.

>Pick Iroha
Club isn't destroyed, neither Yui or Yukino's heart is crushed, and their friendship is fine.
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>>140822279

Especially after ANOTHER gave us the fairy tale ending, that is all the more reason to feel assured that Iroha won't win the main story.
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>>140822279
>He will end up hurting one of them badly and ruining their friendship.

The girls are mature enough not to let it destroy their friendship.
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In ANOTHER Yukino swallows her feelings for 8man to let Yui have her Hikki
In the main series Yui tries to crash genuine and permanently block Yukinox8man from happening because she can't stand someone not her being with him.

Is Yui, dare I say, a bad girl? Yukino seems like the pure one.
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> “That’s a pity then. Next time, bring me out with you~ there’s so many things that I want to talk to you about.”
> That was just a casual lip service.
> However, Hiratsuka looked at her seriously in return.
> She ceased her unwrapping of the chocolates, and clasped her hands together. Slowly, she looked at Haruno-san’s eyes as she crafted some words and spoke gently.
> “Haruno, if you…… really do have something you wish to tell me, I can entertain you anytime.”
> The instant she had said her piece, Haruno-san’s shoulders shook ever so slightly.
> She was still lying flat on the kitchen table, and the eyes that were looking at Hiratsuka-sensei was like glass-works, devoid of any color. However, in that instant, I thought I saw a pale flame flash across her eyes.
> Although that instant lasted less than a second, but the time that the two spent looking at each other felt very long, to the extent that I had even forgotten to breathe.

Wow, Sensei and Haruno definitely have a history of some sort. I wonder if Sensei once tried to reach out to Haruno to help her and Haruno coldly shot her down.
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>>140822308
He's wrong, but your correction is backwards. An Iroha end is at it's likeliest if the club falls out, which is actually what keeps her afloat.
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>>140822574

> An Iroha end is at it's likeliest if the club falls out

I don't think so. Iroha has tended to get screen time due to problems in the Service Club (since that's what she is at her core, a distraction), but in terms of resolving the romance, it won't be accompanied by Service Club woes, because there'd be no reason for it.

He was correct in stating that a large part of the drama between Yui/Yukino/Hachiman goes away if he gets with Iroha.
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So does Yui winning ANOTHER in dominant fashion without any resistance whatsoever mean anything?
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>>140822689

Not really. ANOTHER has so many issues with the characters being sliced up and rewritten. It's like a different set of people in a different set of circumstances that just superficially seems similar to the characters in the main story.
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>>140822650
So you don't think it will hurt Yukino and Yui a lot if he gets with some girl?
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>>140822770

It won't affect their personal friendship. It could cause them to keep 8man at a distance, but as long as Iroha stays away from the Service Club, it could still function.

But Yui/Yukino friendship will end in vol 12. That's one of the safest we can make. ANOTHER has the two so much more tightly knit than they are in reality. Plus it is foreshadowed in vol 10 at the shrine visit when Yui leaves to go with her friends leaving Yukino and 8man alone.
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>>140822650
>I don't think so.
>“Safe tile…”
>“Ambush…”

And if the Service Club suddenly didn't exist, she'd just bullshit an another excuse to bother him.
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>>140822834

> That's one of the safest bets we can make.*
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>>140822747
I meant does it mean something in the opposite way, like that a side series is written just to have Yui win perfectly. Why would this be necessary? WW specifically changed so many things so Yui got her way. He could have written side stories with the characters in character with giving Yui a crown.
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>>140822890

The simplest and most likely answer is that media is being created to satisfy each fanbase in order to try and prevent fans burning the LN in the streets and wrecking WW's career. Iroha gets the 10.5 OVA, Yukino gets the main story, Yui gets ANOTHER.

I had thought that WW might use ANOTHER to tell a deeper message about genuine and about Yukino's issues which are the main focus of vol 12, in addition to giving Yui her desired ending. But unless the Nips have missed it, it doesn't appear that he bothered with it in ANOTHER.
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>>140822890
>He could have written side stories with the characters in character with giving Yui a crown.
WITHOUT giving her the crown.

>>140822834
Yui's main reason for the club is 8man, I don't think him getting with another girl keeps her. She can hang out with Yukino at any time and does.
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>>140822991
People are still digesting it and there having been many spoilers. A scan will let us know. The first impression just gives us the ending which was obvious.

Yui's ending is made to be so pretty for a reason. 2ch seems to think that the main ending will not go so well with everyone happy.
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I used to think that the way the main story might end is with Yui getting rejected, Yukino "winning" but their romance would be a fleeting thing because she's leaving to go away.

The final outcome would be Hachiman and Yukino going separate ways after a one year romance, but the door would still be cracked open for Iroha as she would be the last girl standing at that point. Hachiman could be headed to a school close enough by that he could stay in touch with her (along with other friends he has made). It would not truly be an "Iroha end", but the possibility would be made clear. In other words, ambiguity.
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>>140823570
No. There's no other possibility than Yukino winning decisively and gloriously with a double suicide between Yui and Iroha.
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>>140823570
What is with this Yukino going away meme? Its possible but the only evidence pointing towards that is her being in the Special Ed class, but that might just be because she was studying abroad in elementary school
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>>140823752

She also went abroad one of her middle school years didn't she?

It's very likely her mother wants her to go abroad and her previous grade school trips were to help her prepare for it. And if you're looking at a school like some elite Anglo-American university it's not easy to pass that up even for your tru teen luv 4eva.

If she's NOT going abroad, there needs to be a reason other than the 8inch. It's possible if Yukino has a solid idea about what she wants to do with her life and it's something that can be defended and doesn't involve leaving the country for college.
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>>140823866
Idk about that, 8man is pretty charming. I'm sure he could convince Yukimom to change her mind on anything for him
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>>140822834
>8man cares about Yui above all else
>doesn't really care much about Yukino
>Yukino is her bff who is a close friend
>Yukino doesn't plan on getting her mitts on Hikki
>Yui never has to learn another girl likes him
This sounds like a fantasy.
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>>140823570
Wait, hold on. Are you the guy who posted this?
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/140754940/#140772438
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>>140824041

Oh my god I've been exposed.

Well as I said I used to believe this >>140823570 but not so much anymore in regards to Iroha at least.

I was just tossing it out there.
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>>140824151
Actually, I'm the fag who replied to you in that thread. I've been doing a little guessing using some of muh foreshadowing hints in Vol. 10 (not that rigorous), and what you thought of in that second paragraph is eerily close to what I came up with.
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Are the character songs evidence?
>Yukino: wants to go to a future and wonders how it will be between her and the one she is enchanted with
>Yui: Wants to get a happy end with her Hikki and become his most important one
>Iroha: More or less out of it
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>>140824251

I've always wondered why Irohafags, who are very keen to seize on even the flimsiest evidence for their girl, have never tried to view Komachi in that scene as standing in place of Iroha. We know that Komachi and Iroha are similar. But are sly and cunning. Iroha tickles 8man's imouto bone just like Komachi. We know there is a very good chance that scene is foreshadowing the end of the series. And Komachi winds up with the best luck of them all.

If that scene is foreshadowing the ending, and people think Iroha is going to win, then that scene has to be referencing her somehow.
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>>140824151
>>140824251
To add, what did you base Iroha's shit on? Because that's pretty much word-for-word what I came up with in my head.
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>>140824528

Basically from this >>140824489
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>>140824305
Who is her enchatned one? Pan-san?

>>140824489
It also involves Yui giving her great luck to Iroha, which would never fucking happen. Komachi also leaves 8man and Yukino alone.
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>>140822174
But she's really shit.
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>>140817724
>sensei not on this list.
You had one job anon.
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>>140824741

> It also involves Yui giving her great luck to Iroha, which would never fucking happen. Komachi also leaves 8man and Yukino alone.

Yeah that and the end of vol 11 is kind of why I backed off the Iroha possibility. That scene I think is telling us something about the ending, but if you get into too much reaching to try and squeeze every bit of symbolism from it, you're going to get some things wrong.
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>>140824489
>>140824489
kek. You already replied.

Actually, I never thought of Komachi in that scene at all. I thought that scene was mainly referencing the relations between the service club, and it seems we've both came to a similar conclusion for them(or still kind of do).

Iroha on the other hand was based on my end that little scene with safe tile/ambush. You know how Iroha tends to do what she says is going to win Hayama over with 8man? Well in that scene, if we interpret little bit as her intention to pretty much survive the drama, all that's missing is the service club falling out with each other. In ANOTHER, that doesn't happen. Here, we don't have Volume 12 yet.
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>>140824950
So Iroha senses that the club can be a tire fire in a matter of minutes? She is still aiming for Hayama though.
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>>140824741
>Who is her enchatned one? Pan-san?
From the song is evident that is 8man (the eyes are the same as Pan-san)
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>>140825104
I still hold out hope that it is Hayama she is referring to.

>>140824820
Vol 11 didn't hurt Iroha's chances much to me.
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>>140804137
It's a VN, you can just wait for 'Dizzy Ziddy' to upload translated read throughs on his youtube channel.
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Typically when a non-first girl or not main heroine wins the MC obvious cares a lot about her above all the others this late in the series (Asa from Shuffle, Chihiro from KamiNomi). Iroha doesn't really register on 8man nearly as much as Yui and Yukino do.
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>>140800596
>She's talking to 8man and whoever he's on a date with
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>>140825480
Ok guys does anyone here not realize yet that everyone in this series has feelings for 8man?
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>>140825191
>I still hold out hope that it is Hayama she is referring to.
It's impossible, in the song she is talking about the photo with 8man on the sprite mountain, the stuffed pan-san 8man gave her in vol3, the infirmary scene, their relacionship so far, she even wonder what will happens when her feelings wil get to 8man and states a future with him.
Sorry, but to think that it might be Hayama is delusional.
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>>140824741
8man didn't spend much time with Yukino. Yui left and and Komachi did later, but they pretty left for home pretty fast after the shrine.

Komachi as a stand in for Iroha sounds too farfetched, but let's humor it a little. Komachi's pretty much said she'll be home a little later and she presumably does off screen. Meaning she's technically the last one left with 8man.
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>>140825550
>in the song she is talking about the photo with 8man on the sprite mountain
We don't know that it is in particular. For all we know she has a photo of her and Hayama. I may be wrong but wasn't there a photo with both of them in it?

>the infirmary scene
A scene at dusk is vague. It could just be pottery.

>the stuffed pan-san 8man gave her in vol3
She was just referring to a stuffed animal, not that Pan-san in particular. Hayama gave her her first Pan-san and she wouldn't just throw it away.

>she even wonder what will happens when her feelings wil get to 8man
She wonders about the future in general. Her feelings for the one she is waiting for is what matters to her.

I know, there is a 99.9% chance that is Yukino singing of her love for 8man but if WW trolls almost everyone I want to be in that corner that saw it coming. Basically if HayamaxYukino happens I want the satisfaction of being right.

Another inconsistency I see is that Yukimom doesn't like Yukino's direction and what she wants. If Yukimom thought Yukino wanted something with Hayama she would get her mother's full support but if Yukino wanted that dead fish eyed loser Yukimom would not support that.

>>140825618
Komachi will spend the next few years with 8man at home so Iroha will spend her life with 8man once he is done with Yukino.

>but they pretty left for home pretty fast after the shrine.
It could just be a sign of a short romance or that that isn't the important part.
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>>140826024
Ahhh.... i understand it's you delusional anon kun, believe what you want...that doesn't change the reality.
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>>140826117
I am not delusional, I know it won't happen but I still want it.

I can take solace in that Yui gets a perfect romance in ANOTHER but Yukino's and 8man's will be short lived. As a Yuifag I prefer an Iroha end to a Yukino end.
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>No Yumiko route
>No Orimoto route
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So Saki gets a route? Se doesn't even like 8man so there won't be romance.
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8man expects that he will be alone in the end and that is the wrong end he expects. It is wrong for him to have nothing after all that.

8man won't get any YY, he will be left with nothing but memories and thoughts.
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No you are delusional anon-kun
The thing that most probably will happens is a Yukino end (bittersweet or not).
And the bitter part most probably will go to Yui.
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>>140826647
Yukinofags will see that as a sweet end though and I don't want that. It would break my heart to see Yui hurt but Yukinofags would laugh and call it a happy end. It would be bitter for 8man, hurting Yui is the last thing he wants and Yui is Yukino's best friend.

An end without the three together is bitter and I can't taste the sweet.
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>>140826647
It would be bitter all around with a Yukino "end". Especially for Yukino. Because there is no way their relationship could last long-term and they all know that.
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How come everyone is so underwhelmed that Yui won ANOTHER?
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>>140826838
preorder confirmed
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>>140826842
No one likes Yui
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>>140826893
>This is what Cuckinofags believe
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>>140826842
Well, it was telegraphed pretty early on in it. It's also not really convincing either way on the Yui will definitely win or definitely lose in the main story.
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>>140826791
>Because there is no way their relationship could last long-term and they all know that.
This is just your impression the story says the opposite and vol 12 is not out yet, so its only guessing.
It could last safely but we will know in vol12
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>>140826899

HNNNNNGGGGHHHH
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>>140826997
>This is just your impression the story says the opposite
How in the world do you get that the story says the opposite? Explain that one to me, because that's just bizarre. I mean you are right that there is a possibility that a relationship could theoretically work out, but it would be pretty damn difficult.
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>>140826899
Cute. I hope Iroha wins.
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>>140826838
>>140826862
>>140826899
Someone hold me. I think I'm dying.
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>>140827210
I was intending that the story show that they have chemistry togheter, they like to talk, she like to tease him, they have around the same hobbies like read and they have some sort of connection.
Naturally It might be difficult like every serious thing, but only the fairy tales are easy.
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>>140811711
>It’s clear that Yukino reacts sharply when she sees other girls approach Hachiman
Does she? I have never noticed her getting jelly.
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If they didn't want their flirting being overheard by other students then why didn't they just exchange phone numbers?
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>>140811141
You didn't have hot femdom sex with busty onee-chan in the tour?
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>>140827466
>I was intending that the story show that they have chemistry togheter, they like to talk, she like to tease him, they have around the same hobbies like read and they have some sort of connection.

Oh, I agree with you completely there. That's all true.

What I meant is that the story also shows that they would be difficult together if they were in an actual intimate relationship. Ignoring the "difference of status" and the in-law shit, as we really don't know enough to guess how important they really are, the chief problem with them together is their personalities would make it too easy for them to stagnate together, and their poor ability to communicate their genuine emotions and desires would make things exceedingly difficult without them both changing even more than they already have.
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>>140827735
>Does she? I have never noticed her getting jelly
Have you read the novel? In various scene with Iroha, with Orimoto and every time someone make pass at 8man.
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>IIT The rise of Irohafags

anyway, why Yukinofags/Yuifags are so butthurt? Yui has all the fun in the spin-off, and Yukino is certainly going to win (someone) in the main series. Or you are telling me Sakifags/Senseifags/Yumikofags are behind all of this?
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>>140827956
She didn't get jelly when Yui gave him thank you treats. She seemed envious and sad.
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>>140827944
Even you are right in one sense.
They are both logical person, but they are beginning to change for the better.
There are obstacle along the way that will most probably will be addressed in the next vol (we don't know if it's the last).
All I can say now is that I want to read vol12 and see how this will turn out.
Its almost a damn year from the last vol.
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>>140826899
KITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>140825295
well it's a setup for a "future" end. It's not like she needs to win right now. Iroha winning in some years later might more suitable for the title "my romcom is wrong as I expected". Not sure if WW decide to do it (or be able to do it) though.
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>>140827824
Because they always think they're alone when they speak.
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>>140799875
>>140826838
>>140826899
B E S T
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>>140828098
Kill yourself desu
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>>140821831
>I would say it's because her scenes are very minor from a romance point of view.
That's because actual romance is a very minor subplot in Oregairu.

>romance flag
wew lad

>Again and again and again Yukino dominates 8man's thoughts. She's the constant, enduring impetus for Hachiman to act.
Yukino has never been anything but an ideological figure to 8man, a complete inverse to Yui to be more precise. Yui embodied "nice girls": The type of girl, but more generally the type of person, that 8man hates. Yukino was the exact opposite to that: The "harsh mistress" that he equated to "truth" (hence the entire "Yukino doesn't lie" delusion). His idolization of her has always been ideological in nature, even if the exact ideals she represented have changed in the course of the story. It's only that volume 11 that he's perhaps finally started to actually see Yukino as a person.

>And now we're at vol 12 and the story is set up where we know Yukino is going to dominate it.
The story is 8man's, following 8man's issues, and 8man just admitted that Yukino needs to deal with her issues without his or Yui's help. I'd say you're directly contradicting the current direction of the story, and are in for a rude awakening.

>The title of the series doesn't mean "the girl who doesn't make narrative sense to win is going to do it"
You shouldn't use words you're not familiar with. Iroha has more narrative support than any other heroine, but she breaks most of the well-known romantic cliches. Cliches =/= Narrative.

>Let me be clear that I don't dislike Iroha.
This isn't about who likes who, and the fact that you think it is the same as admitting your bias on the subject. I'd go as far as saying that anyone who claims Yukino should "win" (another term that immediately shows a person's completely illiteracy) doesn't actually like Yukino, because they are completely out of touch with the character and her role in the story.
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>>140828544
>Iroha has more narrative support than any other heroine,
What the fuck. You are right on a few points but this one is out there. There is almost no narrative support for her to win.
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>>140828693
I disagree, and it's not like I said it took much. Frankly, I'd put Yukino's romantic prospects somewhere in the negatives. (Same went for Yui but I've already been proven right regarding her.) 8man is more likely to end up with nobody at all than with Yukino, and crack ships like Miura go without saying.
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>>140828895
I do think 8man won't end up with anyone but Yukino's chances are way better than Iroha's by a long mile. I don't think Yukino will win in any capacity and if she does it will be a failed romance and parting ways. Yui is out because she won the AU, a really low chance for her and probably lower than harem end or a crack ship.

It would not reflect the story at all to have Yukino win and have a good romance with 8man. I side on the side that doubts he loves anyone. The way he interacts with and thinks of Yukino has been wrong for so long it will take awhile before he could even deal with the real her, no matter what sort of crush she has. I am hoping for a friends end but loner seems the most probable.

But still, I can't see how you think Iroha has a snowball's chance in hell. If I gave Yukino 10% chance I would give Iroha a 1% chance. If he pursues romance it will be with people he cares about and trusts on some level, not someone he thinks is annoying, only guesses her motives (this is the biggest red flag against Iroha), and doesn't seem to think much of.
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>>140799636

good god, loke at those Sakis

hope pic related happened
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Why would Iroha fall for 8man in the first place
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>>140829295
Because genuine.
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i just wanna to say, thank you to those that introduce me to this series.
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Haruno 's highschool years prequel when?
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>>140829817
they dont do hentai
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>>140799915

Everyone is gay for totsuka.
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>late to the thread so i couldn't sensei shitpost
ᶠᵘᶜᵏ ᵐʸ ˢʰᶦᵗ ᵘᵖ ᶠᵃᵐ
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>>140829236
>I do think 8man won't end up with anyone but Yukino's chances are way better than Iroha's by a long mile
If you don't think anyone will get with 8man then on what basis can you list Yukino as more likely than Iroha? Both we and 8man pretty much know dick about her actual situation and character, Yukino has had less intimacy with 8man than Iroha since the moment he carried her bag.

>The way he interacts with and thinks of Yukino has been wrong for so long it will take awhile before he could even deal with the real her, no matter what sort of crush she has.
They'd have to completely reboot their relationship, for which there isn't enough time in the story, in addition to it not being the point of the story in the first place. I don't get how you can admit something as enormously relationship-defining as this and still think she has any chance, let alone a higher chance than neutral characters. Is it because you're weighting cliches?

>If he pursues romance it will be with people he cares about and trusts on some level
Well he clearly cares about Iroha enough to spend significant quantities of his time helping her, including on serious issues, and he trusts her enough to get lured out onto dates. Meanwhile he can't even trust the club to give him platonic chocolate without causing a meltdown.

>not someone he thinks is nannoying
For an annoying person she's equated with his most beloved person quite a lot, and he certainly enjoyed their date. She was also the only person he actually went out of his way to start casual conversation with during the chocolate event.

>only guesses her motives (this is the biggest red flag against Iroha)
Yeah, 8man never guesses Yukino's motives.

>and doesn't seem to think much of.
Other than praising her on a regular basis and being impressed by her adaptability and capability as a president.
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Volume R translation when?
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>>140830153
>If you don't think anyone will get with 8man then on what basis can you list Yukino as more likely than Iroha?
Because there is a possibility I am wrong and the thing I am more possible about being wrong on is Yuikino rather than Iroha. Most of the reason why I think Yukino has a chance is because WW might not want to enrage Yukino's large fanbase (although Yui's character thread is the largest) by giving her no end and Yui a perfect happy end in ANOTHER. Judging from what I read on 2ch they seem to put a lot of importance on how ANOTHER ended. I don't think there is much storywise to support Yukinox8man but I do think they can becomes friends if things go right.

I don't get why saying Iroha has less of a chance than Yukino triggers you so much. It seems more to me you are an Irohafag who wants everything to go wrong so she wins and ignore everything else in the story. Anything that kills Yui's chances and Yukino's chances are truth but god forbid anyone says the same about Iroha.

>to spend significant quantities of his time helping her
Out of guilt. Plus she constantly asks him and he usually doesn't turned down requests.

>Meanwhile he can't even trust the club to give him platonic chocolate without causing a meltdown.
He was melting down too. It wasn't just YY's problem. He still has demons to overcome.

>Yeah, 8man never guesses Yukino's motives.
But the thing is 8man actually cares about Yukino's motives. 8man couldn't give a fuck about Iroha's motives. One striking thing to me is that 8man doesn't care if a guy gets close to Iroha or that she likes Hayama but when he thinks the same of Yui or Yukino he fucking rages.

>Other than praising her on a regular basis and being impressed by her adaptability and capability as a president.
I didn't mean he didn't respect her, I meant she doesn't really enter his mind unless she is right in front of him. Can't say that about Yui or Yukino.
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>>140830601
>But the thing is 8man actually cares about Yukino's motives. 8man couldn't give a fuck about Iroha's motives. One striking thing to me is that 8man doesn't care if a guy gets close to Iroha or that she likes Hayama but when he thinks the same of Yui or Yukino he fucking rages.


a good point to fight irohafag
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How is the new VN different from the last one?
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>>140830807
cancer iroha
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>>140830807
Actual romance routes.
The first VN was just Volumes 4 and 5.
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>>140830601
>Because there is a possibility I am wrong and the thing I am more possible about being wrong on is Yuikino rather than Iroha.
Nice doublethink. You might want to try supporting your predictions by analyzing the story and not by making guesses at how wrong you think you are.

>Most of the reason why I think Yukino has a chance is because WW might not want to enrage Yukino's large fanbase (although Yui's character thread is the largest)
So, by your own admission, your reason sucks.

>I don't get why saying Iroha has less of a chance than Yukino triggers you so much. It seems more to me you are an Irohafag who wants everything to go wrong so she wins and ignore everything else in the story.
And here come the baseless accusations. Not even going to humor you beyond this, because you clearly have given up any intention of having a proper discussion, making any effort on my part a waste.

I suggest you take some time to think about what motivated you to actually go out of your way to write this tripe and, if feeling particularly adventurous, try again with something more constructive.
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>>140827824
Jesus, yukino is a fucking retard, somebody needs to get that asshole off schoolwide comms
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>>140830897
But wasn't there one last year?
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>>140831022
What?
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>>140818391
Pls by all means sub this
I'll follow you until the end ;_;
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>>140818391
YES!
IROHAFAGS ARE TRULY THE BEST
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>>140830968
I just explained why I think I would be wrong.

>So, by your own admission, your reason sucks.
It is a shitty reason for her to win. I think if the story was in a vacuum both Yukino's chances and Iroha's chances are close to 0. But it isn't a vacuum.

>And here come the baseless accusations
Your posts and language and post got far more animated when I mentioned that Iroha has no shot/less of a shot than Yukino. The way you zeroed in on that point in particular makes me think You are a Irohafag since only they would care about that point and get this upset by pointing it out. If you weren't one you would just ignore that part or say no.

>because you clearly have given up any intention of having a proper discussion
What the fuck. I haven't. What the fuck is proper to you? Agreeing with you?

>making any effort on my part a waste.
If you value your time like that then you don't have to. It is okay.

>what motivated you to actually go out of your way to write this tripe
I don't think you are right on a few of your points. Sue me if I think you are not correct. I am willing to talk to you anytime though, it isn't really a big deal to post on 4chan after all.
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>>140831210
>Your posts and language and post got far more animated when I mentioned that Iroha has no shot/less of a shot than Yukino. The way you zeroed in on that point in particular makes me think You are a Irohafag since only they would care about that point and get this upset by pointing it out. If you weren't one you would just ignore that part or say no.
Man it sure is anime/manga and/or LNs in here.
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Since Yui won ANOTHER that means she will win the Hikki bowl in the main series.
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>>140817853
Holy shit, I didn't think Irohafags could reach this level of delusional. You guys are beyond hope.
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>Yuckynofag being jealous as fuck
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>>140834228
>streaming

Leave.
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>>140826346
So you didn't read the novels animeonlyfag. Another thing you didn't know she already has a route in the earlier VN.
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>>140835057
WE NEED TO GO THICKER
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>>140818391
YOU'RE A GREAT MAN, BROTHER
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>>140835295
Congrats Tobe
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>>140836368
You do realise that Iroha, right?
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>>140836459
Tobe is the father
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>>140834300
But anon he's just looking for the Real Thing
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>>140836600
Well, Tobe thinks he's the father, when it's actually 8man
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>>140836799
It's actually Zaimokuza.
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>>140836991
Nope, 8man
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>>140837118
The Zaimokuza crusher that was done on her says otherwise.
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>>140837669
And the 8inches that 8man gaver her says otherwise, and besides, 8man doesn't consider condoms genuine.
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>>140837761
8man doesn't consider sex before marriage genuine either.

It was Zaimokuza's,
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>>140838034
>>140836991
>>140837669
go back to writing Zaimokuzacs
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>>140838034
>Implying that 8man wouldn't fuck a girl before marriage.

Nigga it was definitely 8man's
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>>140838113
>8man ever fucking before marriage
Wow you faggots really don't get 8man.
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>>140838069
>>140838113
Nah, the baby belongs to Zaimokuza.
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People being this retarded.

It's obviously Hayama's.
She did it in his sleep.
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Yukinoshita's recipe
>Placing wheat flour, sugar and chocolate on the weighing scales.
>Properly arranging all those that have been weighed.
>To decide on the correct amount of time, to perfectly build up a list of established procedures.
>In order for it to not go wrong, so that there will be no mistakes.
>However, there is just one thing, there are lies mixed into it.
>For what the truth is worth, there is a spoonful of lies.
>As I baked them one by one, towards the weak looking portions, gracefully, without leaving a gap or an uneven surface, I coat it with a layer of bitter chocolate.
>From the view here, the fine powdered sugar sparkled beautifully like snow.
>The sugar falling down as I sprinkle them was just like the snow.
>They could probably cover up and hide just about everything.
>I think it's cowardly.
>I'd probably even accepted this cowardly side of me already.
>She is. My friend.
>Knowing this and yet trying to hide it, I think I am probably trying to push my feelings of guilt onto her.
>I am probably still clinging on to those sweet things.
>However, because there are still things that I desire.
>That's why, I will do the things that I can do.
>I can only do it up till this point, the rest depends on you.
>Telling her this, I turn around to face her.
>And with that, I began to recall my initial conversation with her.
>Just like that time too, it was just the two of us.
>What kind of conversation it was, with the exception of the two of us, there was no one else, not even him, who knows it.
>Yet, she was just like that time; I could see an uneasy expression on her.
>To try and ease her uneasiness, I spoke to her in as gentle a tone as possible.
>It's alright as long as you can smile even more brightly than during that time.
>"The next time, the handmade cookies, we are going to give it right?"
>Surely, this is the correct form.
>Therefore, this is my recipe.
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>>140841978
2deep4me
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Yui's recipe.
>Putting the sugar little by little with trembling hands.
>Even if the product doesn't come out nicely, it's fine.
>It would be the best if it could come out cutely though.
>But, it probably won't end up being like that.
>Because there's a lot of things mixed into it.
>I tried to collect just the sweet things, just the cute things and only the things that you like.
>Just as I thought, it can't be done.
>Chiseling here, cutting there, an unevenness all around. Sweet and bitter.
>I am not particularly smart or anything. I've probably always been this way.
>That's why, there's no way I can do it perfectly.
>I don't know what is "correct". It's definitely not the right way to do it however.
>Therefore, I've always been putting in some sort of subtle seasoning that only I know.
>So as to not let anyone know. So as to not let him know.
>Milk and condensed milk. Also, a little of bitter coffee.
>Towards that pure white cream, mixing a little of black bit by bit.
>The original whiteness of it can no longer be restored.
>No matter how diluted it is, how much I add, he will surely remember the bitterness.
>It's unfair, for both me and her.
>However, it's because of love that this unfairness even arose.
>I want to keep loving you. Both me and my friend.
>Calling out, looking up. My eyes catches hold of the serious expression and I flinch, just a little.
>Just like that time, I wonder if it was done nicely.
Totally different from me, not one bit of me bears any resemblance.
>That's why I am attracted to you and rapidly fall in love with you
>At the very beginning when I first talked to you, I was so nervous that I could barely converse.
>Probably, the same was true for the other as well.
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>>140842054
>Though I want to give a smile that was more earnest than always, I don't think I have the confidence to even smile like I usually do.
>However, probably, the way in which both she and I smiled were likely to be the same.
>"......Un. I will try to do it, my own way. Thank you."
>Whether it's correct or not I do not know. However, this will be my recipe.
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>>140841978
>>140842054
>>140842173
Blablabla Yukino gives up her feelings for Hachiman because Yui is her friend. Blablabla Yui gets with Hachiman.

None of this shit matters, because Watari copped out and turned the series into a generic harem.
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>>140840167
Who is more disgusting, /a/? Haruno or Sensei?
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>>140842308
Haruno.
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>>140841978
>initial conversation
>Yet, she was just like that time; I could see an uneasy expression on her.
>To try and ease her uneasiness, I spoke to her in as gentle a tone as possible.

Wait, did Yukino know all along?
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What happened to that fag that was convinced that HayamaxYukino would happen in ANOTHER?
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>>140842530
Yes, Yukino has known since the very first episode that both Hachiman and Yui were involved in the car accident.
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>>140842682
He an hero'd
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>>140842299
It is just a side AU, chill. You don't get hot and bothered about the VN despite ANOTHER being the exact same thing but in novel form.

>>140841978
>>140842054
>>140842173
>Yukino know Yui likes 8man so she gives up her feelings for him
Dang. If I were a Yukinofag I would be a bt bothered by this. From what it seems Yui knows that Yukino likes him too.
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>>140843244
Doesn't look like she gives up on her feelings, just that she pretends they don't exist when she's with Yui.
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>>140843985
Then that means that ANOTHER is heading towards a disaster end but WW cuts it short.
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>>140844126

Maybe heading towards a meltdown for Yukino.

But more than likely the difference between main series and ANOTHER is the depth of Yukino's feelings towards 8man.
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>>140844918
>>140843633

These are getting old.
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>>140844868
No the difference is that Yukino hides her feelings and stays their friend. Yui on the other hand is going to leave them in the main series.
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>>140844950
Such a shame
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"Senpaiiiiii, you know when we had 'Private' time in the corner of the library?"
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>>140844999

Yukino in ANOTHER is missing some key romance flags that she gets in the main story.

She has a crush on him sure, but she is more attached to Yui. The opposite is true in the main story. The difference between the two endings is what matters most to Yukino.
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>>140844950
Problem
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So I guess Yukno wasn't pretending to be in love with him.

>>140845071
The infirmary scene probably pushed her over the top. So when did Yukno actually realize she likes him? In ANOTHER it seems liked she figured it out but isn't going to do anything about it.

>The difference between the two endings is what matters most to Yukino.
In the main story genuine matters to her the most, in ANOTHER it is probably the club that matters to her the most.

>>140844868
>Maybe heading towards a meltdown for Yukino.
WA2 soon fellow stalker
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>>140845286
Hot diggity. I can finally prove that Hayama and Yukino get together in ANOTHER.
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>>140845663

Apparently it's Iroha/Yukino that get together.

WW went for consolation yuri.
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>>140845286
Welp. Looks like a Yui end.

They promise each other something near the ocean and hold hands at the end.
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>>140846060
YES YES YES. That means Yui will win the main series too since she had such a pretty end in ANOTHER. Please don't bother me with reality. This is my highlight
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>>140846060
Can you read nip? What did they promise.
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>>140846060

What did they promise? To send the tape of their first time to Yukino?
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>>140846060
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>>140846328

Fake translations in 3, 2, 1,
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>>140846156
>>140846155
to visit that beach again.

what the fuck anons, that's like basic nippongo
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>>140846481

Damn Yui really did get a fairy tale ending.

Although the degree to which the characters had to be warped to accomplish that really leads one to think that for Yui at least it will very different in vol 12.
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>>140846660
The best thing to come out of another is Haruno losing interest in Hachiman because he didn't pick Yukino. Now he's just some random faggot to her.
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>>140846419
It was just some sweet romance with a bright future. It is literally Yui's perfect end.

>>140846660
Yukino gave up her feelings for 8man once she can do it again.

Although this really does prove that Yukino likes him outside of her problems. When she doesn't have any she still likes him.
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>>140846753

> Yukino gave up her feelings for 8man once she can do it again.

She won't abandon genuine in both endings, you can count on that. Especially after the end of vol 11.
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>>140846753
People have been saying over and over again that Yukino's problems have nothing to do with Yukino liking Hachiman. It's all family related shit.
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So Yui end is out of the question, right?
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>>140846880

In the main story? The odds are almost unfathomably low, but non-zero.
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>>140846737
I thought she cared about him outside of being the person Yukino-chan wants to blow. I guess she didn't. She even says in ANOTHER she doesn't care who he picks.

>>140846816
>People have been saying over and over again that Yukino's problems have nothing to do with Yukino liking Hachiman. It's all family related shit.
Yeah but people (Irohafags and Yuifags) have been making the biggest deal about it for months. How many posts have tried to convey that Yukino doesn't like 8man for real?

>>140846880
One could argue this proves 8man has feelings for her on some level.
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>>140846912
But does ANOTHER lower her odds by much?

>>140846797
Yes but going for genuine likely ends her friendship with Yui. There is meaning in Yui picking friendship.
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>>140846964

> But does ANOTHER lower her odds by much?

It dropped the percentage likelihood from ~50% to very tiny.
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>>140846880
Maybe, maybe not. Who knows what stunt WW will pull.
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>>140846915
>Yeah but people (Irohafags and Yuifags) have been making the biggest deal about it for months. How many posts have tried to convey that Yukino doesn't like 8man for real?
Take one guess as to why that is.
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>>140846964

> Yes but going for genuine likely ends her friendship with Yui.

I'm telling ya man. That's a key difference between ANOTHER and main story. In ANOTHER what she feels for Hachiman isn't worth losing Yui as a friend. But the opposite is true in the main story.
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>>140847043
They benefit from her feelings being dependency or someshit.

>>140847042
He is cheeky. 2ch seems to expect a not very nice end in the main series, who knows what that will entail. I think friends end is not possible.

>>140847034
Maybe that is the only way she can be happy in one universe. Yui's VA thinks she will get BTFO and there are so many signs that she will. Maybe WW will want to be consistent and make her win the main series too.

>>140847082
8man thinks genuine is worth losing everyone over so it wouldn't surprise me if both Yui and Yukino choose 8man over eachother.
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>>140847220

> Maybe WW will want to be consistent and make her win the main series too.

Nah, it is completely obvious by this point that ANOTHER is a gift to Yuifags so they don't come at him with pitchforks after vol 12.

But I don't think we'll actually get Yui devastation in vol 12. She will get rejected and then fade away. Her devastation will be away from Hachiman so we won't see it.
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>>140847302
Will she even be that devastated? She knows how it can end. She might be Brendan Fraser after all this but it wouldn't be a suprise to her.
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>>140847459

I think her reaction will be stronger than it was early in the series when she thought 8man/Yukino were together but she won't be slashing her wrists, bawling uncontrollable, screaming "I want to die I want to die" over and over.

She'll be sad, probably have a cry over it. Then she'll start hanging out with her other clique exclusively.
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Yuckyno a shit.
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>>140847541
A best.
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>>140847220
That's actually interesting. Does the word genuine get brought up in volume R?
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>>140847515
I think she might ignore 8man even in the classroom, like not even acknowledge him. Imagine how shit he would feel if she gave him a longing stare.

Maybe she will come back. She came back the first time.

> she won't be slashing her wrists, bawling uncontrollable, screaming "I want to die I want to die" over and over.
I think she would probably cry really hard at home but I don't think she would hurt herself.
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>>140800596
Being a senseifag is suffering
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>>140847837
Their classes change after the year is over.
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>>140847837

> Imagine how shit he would feel if she gave him a longing stare.

So far he has shown precious little empathy towards Yui in the main story. Even at the end of vol 11, he watches Yui give him the chocolates, say it was just a token of appreciation with "a voice that sounded like she was being crushed to death" and he still wouldn't act until he saw how badly Yui's proposal was hurting Yukino.
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>>140847912
They are both still in lib arts so they will likely share a class next year. Unless Yui would be asshurt enough to change that.

>>140847928
He has been trying to avoid hurting Yui for a while. One of the reasons he doesn't want her feelings to be real is so he doesn't hurt her. He always feels guilty when she is hurt, that doesn't change his actions but you don't understand 8man if you think he could feel fine after if Yui gave him a longing stare.
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>>140848055

> One of the reasons he doesn't want her feelings to be real is so he doesn't hurt her.

I'm not so sure. I don't know that he has even rejected Yui in his mind yet. He likely will, but he is not operating under "I don't want to hurt her" because he hasn't committed any course of action that will.

He is, for most of the series, in regards to romance a lot more afraid of being hurt himself.
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>>140799599
oh god there's a VN? fucking hang me I'm so done with this shit
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>>140848121

> he hasn't yet committed to any course of action*
>>
There is something that I want.
I don’t need anything else other than that. All I want is just that alone.
However, the circumstances that I place myself in does not allow me to obtain it. Still, all I did was allow myself to be lost in the conclusions laid down by others.
Really, I have noticed this since a long time ago.
Things that are lost will definitely not become beautiful memories.
I know that if you do not stretch out your hand to grasp it, you will regret it your entire life.
That’s why, there is something that I want.
Yet, the things that you can obtain with your own two hands are always so shallow and vague. I simply cannot have faith in such things. More than that, there is the fact that the most unreliable existence of all is ourselves. Hence, the wish that our relationships would grow deeper would surely not come true as well.
Naturally, since some time back, at some place, where both sentimentality and resignation were mixed together, I had since taken a step back and drew a line between us.
However this cannot continue on for long. I have always known that this would all fall apart sooner or later.
Though I knew this, I have been averting my eyes from it.
The circumstances that he and I were in were different, except for maybe just that one point, where he and I held the same worries.
No, that’s not it.
It’s not just the circumstances alone. Just about everything else was different.
Yet, why is it that the both of us would arrive at the same conclusion?
Even so however, the answer that he gave me probably wasn’t the only one he prepared.
That’s why, when I decided not to raise the question explicitly, we both pretended to not see it at all.
I do not want to acknowledge the uncomfortable truth.
What is lost will never come back.
I don’t want to have any expectations.
That’s why I avoided the issue.
Actually, maybe, I don’t want it after all.

So was this Hachiman giving up on genuine?
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>>140848146

There was already a VN for years. There is now a second one.

You've been done with it for longer than you even knew.
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>>140799599
Is there an Imouto route?
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>>140848146
What do you mean? Because it has become harem shit or something else?
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>>140848398
I want to Cumachi on her butt
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>>140847910
Yeah, at least there is that love-hotel Doujin and fanart of 8manXsensei, so we got that going for us which is nice.


>>140848444
My nigga
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I wonder if Yukino would have swallowed her feelings if 8man liked her. In ANOTHER it is pretty obvious he likes Yui. I find it bizarre that Yukino would let someone else have one of her pan-sans.
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>>140848566
ANOTHER has all the characters acting out of character. There's nothing bizarre about it, because everything is bizarre.
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>>140848398
Okay
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>>140820311
>The theory that was getting promulgated before Volume R is likely true: ANOTHER for Yui, 10.5 OVA for Iroha
>OVA adaptation of a canon volume is the same of an AU spinoff
Yukinofags have already hit the "bargaining" phase.
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>>140848658
It is weird. In every other instance that someone touched her pan-san she looked like she wanted to slit that person's throat.
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>>140848892
No one has hit the bargaining phase. Watari sold out and has gone full harem. People are just disappointed.
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>>140848954
So how is the 10.5 OVA any different than any other adaptation OVA?
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>>140849108
I don't understand your question. I mean I understand the words, just not what you're going for. Be a bit more specific.
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>>140802411
But there is monologue section during chocolate making where it is clear Yukino is swallowing her feelings
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>>140848892
What? Yui winning ANOTHER in such a perfect manner is exactly what they wanted. If Yukino won ANOTHER or if there was a Yukino centric PVA coming up they would be shitting their pants.
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>>140848191
That was when 8man accepted superficiality because of Hayato.
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>>140809003
False. Long guns for hunting and pistols for competition target shooting are legal in Japan, though licensed including safety test
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>>140849450
That was the beginning of Volume E.
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>>140849223
>The theory that was getting promulgated before Volume R is likely true: ANOTHER for Yui, 10.5 OVA for Iroha (they may even go so far as to alter the story to make an Iroha end feel more definitive than the volume itself did), main series for Yukino.
This theory, which is what's being discussed, is saying that Watari is attempting to appease the fans of every major love interest. Based on your statement about Watari selling out, I'm taking that to mean you're supporting that theory.

I'm asking how the 10.5 OVA is supposed to be any different from (more specifically) any other canon OVA adaptation, since "10.5 for Iroha" is a key part of the theory. The reason I say it's bargaining is because the theory tries to turn a simple adaptation (of a volume that isn't even exclusively about Iroha) into something else in an attempt to make an unlikely outcome (Yukino and 8man romance) more likely.
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>>140849792
>to make an unlikely outcome (Yukino and 8man romance) more likely
Oh. However I do agree with the anon that Watari is doing this to appease all the fans. The OVA is highly likely going to be nothing but Iroha.
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So Yukino swallows her feelings for 8man in ANOTHER for the sake of friendship. What makes Yukino so certain Yui will stop being her friend if she touches Hikki?
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>>140849984
>The OVA is highly likely going to be nothing but Iroha.

Well, It's going to adapt the date with Iroha, ofc It's going to be Irohaservice.
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>>140849984
If they adopt the entire volume it'll be like 50% Iroha and 50% "BEING AN AUTHOR SUCKS SO MUCH". The date itself really isn't long enough to fill an entire OVA.

What you believe is not of my concern, I'm just confirming that you don't actually have any logical basis to support that belief.
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