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Where were you when Kiritsugu became a servant?

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Where were you when Kiritsugu became a servant?
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>>140759156
long overdue
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Edgy Archer.
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Why does he have Archer's skin and hair color?
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>>140759156

Not even a real Servant, he's just possessed by an actual Heroic Spirit, same as Waver, Rin, and Sakura.
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>>140759275
But how? Kirtsugu is long dead.
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>>140759306
Fate Grand Order is basically going through time to fix shit.

Now they are in the middle of the 4th Grail War in Fuyuki.
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>>140759331
So, more shit writing?
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>>140759384

Are you that mad that Kerry isn't a Heroic Spirit?
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>>140759156
He looks retarded
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>>140759384
yeah

you have what, actual fanfiction jeanne as servant

santa saber alter

now you will have kerry as servant
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>>140759405
I long stopped giving a shit about the series, I don't even know who that is.
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Tsukihime/Melty Blood event when?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTiNicgHAmk

Noble Phantasm.
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>>140759156
>>140759331
>>140759527
So what is this? Some kind of card game? Mobage?
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>>140759589
Mobage. You collect servants and make teams to go and do fights.
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>>140759232
So EMIYA?
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Super Servant God Angry Manjew
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I just want to see the other Grand Servants besides Solly Man
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>>140759644
Thanks anon, now I know I'll never play this.
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>>140759156
What happened to heroes that use guns not being able to become servants? I would accept it being fanservice but people claim this game is actually canon
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>>140759930
Everything is canon in the Nasuverse.
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>>140759930
that's reconned

Billy The Kid is a servant.
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>>140759930
It was never that people using guns couldn't be servants, but that modern history makes it hard to become a servant because even the biggest baddass can be taken out by some completely generic kid with a gun. It makes it hard to foster a legend around someone when ANYONE could have done it.
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>>140759968
Don't you mean BIRRY ZA KIDO
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When are we going to get Simo Hayha or Kliment Voroshilov as a servant already?
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>>140760041
HYAKUPATSU HYAKUJUU
ZUKYUN BAKYUN
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>>140760046
when japan gives a damn about slavs

probably will turn them into white haired female seiba faces
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>>140759956
That's not how it works.
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That means Hakuno has a chance right? Hell, we could make everyone servants.
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>>140760118
It's all one big kaleidoscope, man.
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>>140760046
When Jacob from the Biblical tale of Jacob's Ladder hits Hercules with a Rock Bottom, beats the shit out of Gil in a convenience store, spears Lancer for the irony of it and give Assassin Sweet Chin Music
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>>140760133
Explain to me how that allows for Carnival Phantasm to be canon.
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>>140760114
>>when japan gives a damn about slavs
Isn't Rasputin a servant?
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>>140759156
>F/GO
>canon
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>>140760046
In kerry profile a legendary sniper is mentioned

Simo soon bois.
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>>140760267
>it's William Tell
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>>140760205
Because Nasu doesn't really care about what's considered canon and just uses that as an excuse to have a bunch of different stories. Even something like F/HA is canon despite not making sense with any ending in F/SN.
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>>140760226
No, but Helena Blavatsky is and Ivan the Terrible will also be added in the future.
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>>140759156
I want Taiga to be a servant somehow

If this happens I will play this game automatically
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>>140760320
>Even something like F/HA is canon despite not making sense with any ending in F/SN.

Uh, what? It makes complete sense, with all of them. You didn't finish HA did you?
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>>140760328
>Helena Blavatsky
This is literally my first time hearing of this person.
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>>140760328
Helena is already in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSZUKzdKaxU
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>>140760227
Nasu explicitly says that GO is canon in the latest interview.

>>140760348
She is confirmed to be added someday.
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>>140759156
>セイントグラフ進化
Saint Graph Evolution?
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>>140759156
So why white haired nigger? Overloading his circuits like Shirou?
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>>140760390
>Nasu explicitly says that GO is canon in the latest interview
proofs
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>>140760390
So Ryougi in GO is canon?
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>>140760446
father with future son's powers
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>>140760448
GO was canon since long ago. He stated that Lev not killing himself leads to GO as opposed to Clocktower 2015.
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>>140759156
This game is the ultimate fanservice.
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>>140760448
https://oneofepisodes.wordpress.com/2016/04/18/fgo-tm-ace-042016/
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>>140760358
It's been awhile. I remember them ending it with Shirou's harem invading his house.

Nasu just doesn't care about canon so I try and take everything at face value when it comes to stuff like GO and Prisma.
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Incidentally Melty Blood Back Alley Alliance Nightmare is also canon, since Nasu himself is supervizing it.
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>>140760547
Shirou was never in HA. The entire thing was Avenger wishing he could be a real boy. The only people actually involved were Avenger and Bazett. In the end, Avenger is redeemed, and he saves Bazett as thanks. She's found by the real white haired nun girl (I can't remember her name) missing an arm, but still alive. Bazett then freeloads off Shirou for a year while she recovers.
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Remember that time when someone said "this is the biggest insult to the franchise" in regards to prisms ilya, or apocrypha, or any of the other spin-offs?
No, let me tell you what. Fate is the biggest insult to the gate franchise.

I want to care about it, but each subsequent installment tramples more over anything good the original did.

It's whatever. Nasu doesn't care, Takeuchi gets his unlimited saber works, and the only people that aren't happy are the ones that get really buttblasted when they see Julius Motherfucking Ceasar, loliJack, or Attila the Hun, I.E. not the target audience. And that's fine.
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>>140760199
What class would that even be?
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>>140760535
>>140760503
Nasuverse is doomed. It's even worse than fighting games plot. If Tsuki remake was already released, they would add tsukihime characters as servants for sure.
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>>140760759
>Fate is an insult
>>140760807
>Nasuverse is doomed
Man, when did everyone get so down on fate? It's all in good fun anyway, isn't it?
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>>140760807
>It's even worse than fighting games plot
No, sorry. It'll take quite a long ass time for that considering Soul Caliber 5's story mode exists.
HF Sakura is Mother Theresa and Einstein compared to Pyrria
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perfect chance to ask: so are the servants including gil still alive in HA timeline(bazett eclipse)?
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>>140760847
People forgot how to have fun.
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>>140760448
Is Fate/Grand Order a true sequel, now that's bullshit.
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>>140760911
They're dead outside Angra loop
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>>140760851
ya had to pull this conversation up now didntcha
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>>140761014
what about bazett eclipse? it's outside angra loop right?
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>>140761143
>it's outside angra loop right?
Yes so no Servants
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>>140759156
They added Iri's ghost on him to add insult to injury, nice.
Or maybe she's his Noble Phantasm.
...geddit? Noble PHANT-I'll show myself out.
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>>140761233
then who is she?
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>>140760205
Why wouldn't something as as absurd as the Carnival happen at some point in a world of infinitely many parallel universes?
Maybe Zelretch set the entire thing up himself.
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>>140761402
Ghost
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>>140761402
Some random whore cosplaying.
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>>140760535
i hate nasu
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>>140760381
Whoa there. Too lewd anon.
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>>140760205
Nobunaga and Okita, both from Koha Ace, are in Fate Grand Order. Even if it is a joke dimension, it is part of the canon.
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>>140761731
Nasu...
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>>140761723
I should've paid more attention to what I was posting. I thought the one with the game border was the real one.
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>>140761771
>that lips
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>>140761031
YES I DO! That story mode was retarded on some many levels.
>"OH NO! PEOPLE THINK I'M A MURDERER! THEY'RE GOING TO KILL ME? WHAT SHOULD I DO"
>Logical Person: Use your blunt shield to knock them out and thus convince them you're not the killer
>"I KNOW I'LL USE MY SWORD TO STAB THEM TO DEATH, THUS REAFFIRMING THEIR FEARS!"
>"OH NO MY BROTHER WHO SAVED ME RAN AWAY LIKE A RETARD. CRAAAAAAAWLING IN MY SKIN! TIME TO DESTROY THE WORLD!"
That's not even touching how fucking retarded the rest of the plot with Patty is and how they needed TIME TRAVEL to fucking fix shit
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>>140759156
But why is he a nigger? I thought EMIYA became one because of using projection magic, which Kerry doesn't have.
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>>140759156
English when?
Also why is he black? He shouldn't be black.
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now everyone is a servant, why nasu keeps doing this?
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>>140761939
He's preparing the universe for when he inserts himself as servant.
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>>140761847
her inexperience in fighting cannot allow her to properly knock people out

considering she also has a weird amount of strength due to MALFESTED that she cant properly control to to her own nervousness and such

if NIGHTMARE had not magically intervened that day, Patty vs Pyrrha would've happened aka Training day would've happned I believed so she could properly fight

in short, the story was rushed.

there was a shitton of detail the game did not have because bandit scamco decided it was better to jew people with the art book, then putting all that as unlockables for the game
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>>140759156
It'd make some sense if it were an actual servant version of him considering he was the renowned Magus Killer and all.
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>>140760535
Is there anything that isn't canon with fate?
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>>140759527
>Third rate bounded field
>Counts as a noble phantasm

Why?
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>>140762043
>her inexperience in fighting cannot allow her to properly knock people out
It's not a hard craft. Just hit them with a blunt object and it will usually work. Especially considering the people chasing her were Citizens.
>considering she also has a weird amount of strength due to MALFESTED
Which never made sense to me because they never fucking properly explained malfested which isn't even a fucking word.
>in short, the story was rushed.
No, it was flat out just bad. I didn't care for either of those two because first off I never cared for Sophitia or whoever their mom was. If I ever used a girl it Taki or Ivy, the former is gone for no reason and the latter was borderline pointless, and if I did care I would be insulted because those two didn't once think like a logical human being.
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>>140762724
she doesnt know that, shes been mainly a civilian, and how she learned how to fight was through seeing how Tira fights, who only killed people, and fragile memories of Sophie with Omega sword and Elk shield


>Which never made sense to me because they never fucking properly explained malfested which isn't even a fucking word.
Details where in the artbook where people's Malfested powers or simply how Soul edge powers up people is what they desired the most

Tira's was just to live through and witness Nightmare's/Terror's rage in which she became eternally at her peak
>No, it was flat out just bad. I didn't care for either of those two because first off I never cared for Sophitia or whoever their mom was. If I ever used a girl it Taki or Ivy, the former is gone for no reason and the latter was borderline pointless, and if I did care I would be insulted because those two didn't once think like a logical human being.

the more people ended up playing Natsu, they ended up liking her, she ended up being the only Soul calibur character in the project X zone cross over

she definitely has more personality then her adoptive mother/master, but they could've had a dynamic relationship in game if both Taki and Natsu where in the game

same goes with Leixia and her mother, missed oppertunities because bandit scamco wanted to get greedy with that f2p calibur
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>>140760381
>Helena Blavatsky is a Servant
Aleister Crowley Caster when?
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>>140759156
Fuck, I actually tought it was some dark souls image with kerry's face shopped on it. Even the pose on the cards looks DK as fuck
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I still need to play SC5 (and finish SC4's missions). I actually have time lately, so I should pull it out.
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>>140759156
Best Fate character aside from Iskander. Maybe Waver.
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Is it normal that my Kagetsu Tohya folder lacks track01?
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>>140761870
Why do they keep rehashing Shirou in every new project as "Diet Archer same greap RM 300% less self loathing" i wonder? Because being original is risky so they just rehash rehash rehash
and now it's gotten to the point that even other characters are being made to fit the EMIYA mold.

Christ they stuffed a second Shirou in Prisma because the first one was a normal happy person without all the contrived "looit meh im a heor made of sword n justice" just
like the last dozen Shirou's crap.
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fuck off >>>/v/
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>>140766145
He was terrible. A self righteous asshole who looked down on Hero's for not fixxing the world who then went on and failed worse than any of them did.

Smoking Waifu: Check
Adorable Daughteru: Check
Hot Assistant: Check

All pissed away for his delusional dream.
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What happens if you're already dark skinned with white hair, upon becoming a servant?
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>>140759156
Typemoon needs to be stopped.
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>>140767001
They need to go even further.
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>>140766924
You stay that way. At least that's what happened to Attila.
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>>140767029
No. further there's only a cold, empty dark abyss called Jewspace. and there is no turning back man.
no turning back.
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>>140761402
Random Saber clone
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What is your opinion on Best F/GO Assassin?
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>>140759156
Is this Dark Souls?
kek
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>>140769011
Yes, it is.
Blame Miyazaki.
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>>140759156
ugh
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>>140768690
Best girl. Post your team.
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>>140766864
He was trying to make the world a better place so assholes like you could enjoy spending their lives like rats in a nest with "muh waifu, muh daughteru"
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Is GO actually good? Can you play in english yet?
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>>140759156
Like father like son

But why isn't he smug?
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>>140770163
It's okay. You gotta learn moon runes if you want to understand the story. you can look up the wiki for it if you just want to play and ignore nasu's fanfics.
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>>140760556
Please tell me that this means Melty HD soon
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>>140760041
>>140760069
How's Ghost so far? Dropped it around episode 7
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>>140770163
What mobage can you even play in english? Granblue and?
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>>140759156
Kirei as a servant when?
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>>140759156
When the fuck did Kerry learn and abuse Tracing to get that hair and skin color?
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Wake me up when the Red Baron is a servant
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>>140771028
Alternate timeline when he actually managed to become a superhero.
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>>140759527
*teleports behind you*
*unsheathes gun*
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>>140771168
But how did he get Tracing?
It comes from UBW, and his NP is Time Alter + Origin Bullet shenanigans, not UBW.
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>>140771154
I'll wait when they make Quetzalcoatl a servant.
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>>140759156

Reminder that his NP is classified as Anti-Personnel.

Psssh...
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>>140759156
Hmm...
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>>140771251
Gods can't be servants.
Or they couldn't before at least, can they now?
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>>140771344
I remembered that at one point Quetzal was a human.

I need to check it though else I may be mistaken. It was ages when I looked into American myths and stuff.
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>>140771344
Well, we have Stheno and Euryale as servants. And Quetzalcoatl is confirmed as a future servant, but we don't know yet how they'll justify it.
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>>140770185
Because life sucks.
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>>140771344
Artemis was summoned as a Servant in Grand Order.
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>>140771494
Technically you summoned Orion, and Artemis hijacked it because she's a cunt.
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>>140771637
She's just a virgin slut that wants her bear dickings.
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>>140759156
It was bound to happen eventually.
>wants to be a hero
>kill god knows how many people he considers "bad"
>not afraid of breaking a few eggs to finish his omelette du fromage

Yeah, he would come back later as assassin or maybe even berserker.
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>>140771344
You can't summon them unless they summon themselves
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>>140772155
We don't know that for sure yet.
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>>140759156
>Irisviel got BLACKED
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Parvati fucking when
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>>140773374
It's explained in Fate/Grand Order, a God can literally summon themselves if they choose to, its why Orion got replaced with Artemis because she choose to be summon instead of him
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>>140762673
Same reason shitty eyes of death count as a NP on Shiki servant awhile back
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>>140773420
Post-Babylon, so in about half a year.
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If other human characters in the franchise could get possessed by Heroic Spirits, which ones would they be?

Hard mode: No EMIYA or Angra Mainyu for Shirou.
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>>140759968
>>140759930
Its not retconned, in the sense that that shit was never said to begin with and we've had gun servants for ten years now, yet I still have to go over this with people absolutely every time a new gun servant is added since another guy like you comes out of the wood somehow to complain.

He said it was uphill for gun servant to get in, he never said it was impossible. He said that shit in the original interview that people kept interpreting wrong for years as "GUN SERVANTS ARE IMPOSSIBLE, I HATE GUNS SO MUCH" and people would use that interview to shitpost, when he never said that. You just pretending he said it like that because you wanted to shitpost, and others latched onto it.

If he didn't say that then suddenly any idiot with a high kill count or thousands of other gun guys can get in, when gun has a much lower difificulty rating as a weapon than other weapons. A baby holding a gun can kill even the greatest martial artist or swordsman with ease. Killing someone with one isn't the greatest demonstration of skill. In order to be a gun servant, you have to be a true skilled guy without question.

We have about a dozen gun servants at this point, you'd think people would eventually realize that what they thought that interview meant originally was bullshit, rather than "Well it was just retconned" when it wasn't.

Just like how people thought Avenger was "Class that only Angya Manyu fits into, and nothing else, its just Angya Manyu class" was another misnomer for ten years that was recently proved wrong and people think its a retcon rather than realizing the more obvious reason.
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>>140773733
Kotomine
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>>140759156
That's nice and all, but when do we get Kotomine? I don't really care about BOKU WA.
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>Every-time Grand Order gets brought up outside of /vg/ people try to say it isn't canon or latch onto that
>Blown out every time, since Nasu says its basically the most canon at the moment, and makes all Fate stories canon at the same time canon. Including the other ones they didn't believe were real and lied to themselves about also not being canon.
>Entire point of GO is to destroy that "Its not canon" ideology by making it all canon, and forcing people to accept it all with one giant crossover of all Fate stories.
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>>140773743
Out of curiosity, what are the other gun servants? I know very little of the franchise beyond just F/Z and F/SN, I have a passing knowledge of the plot of HA but that's as far as I go.
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>>140773733
But I liked rude, rapist, Shirou.
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>>140774070
Nobu and Billy the Kid.
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>>140774140
That's nowhere near the "dozen" you referenced

and why's Nobu gun based?
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>>140774067
Of course he says it's canon, he's getting a shitton of money from it. In the end of the day it's just another souless shitty mobage to get money from retards. Nasu has proven that he isn't above such practice, doesn't care for the universe he created and estabilished and is OK with just turning it into a ultra generic dumb fantasy thing with fanfiction-tier writing.

Nasu is a sellout.
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>>140759275
Ishtar Rin when? It's the closest we're going to get to "TOHSAKA PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY" becoming canon.
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>>140774070
Anne Bonny & Mary Read
Francis Drake
Calamity Jane
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>>140774178
Why wouldn't he be?
Tanegashima barrages were a favorite tactic of his.
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>>140774201
>Just a stupid souless mobage
>When the plot for each section gets written and rewritten by Nasu with love, as he gets 100MB of text from the writers for each new section of the plot and changes it so there's 180MB of text after he's done with it according to them

I don't think you know how much text that would be on a text only file, but Nasu says this game basically has five to ten times the text of other big mobile RPG's because he's putting as much life into it as he can't, rather than the incredibly bitter "Well its just a stupid souless mobage" comments you're making. The plot put together at the moment would be almost 1000MB of text at this rate, and he just recently rewrote one arc in the plot to be twice as long.

You won't ever admit it or want to see it like this since you're clearly a bitter asshole who hates it by sheer concept, but he's not just selling out or saying this is canon to get a check. He is writing it entirely, its not fanfiction, the writers for it are all top TM writers who have done the other TM stories. He moitors the majority of the story, and makes sure everything lines up. He's not only writing it, but he's writing it over again constantly and having fun adding new things, because it has a lot of soul for him.

Stay mad forever, or just stop coming up with your own bullshit to hate.
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>>140774178
Nobu is gun based because of one of his famous military tactics involving rotating between musket shooters.
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>>140773447
...Are command seals effective on them?
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>>140759156
>kill me
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>>140774461
Divine spirits that are summoned have to lower themselves to heroic spirit level big time.

Artemis seems to have Orion's stats.
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>>140759930
Can Chris the Sniper become a servant?
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>>140774414
>There are people who actually believe this
>People ACTUALLY believe GO is anything other than a cashgrab
>People WILL defend stuff like Grand Spirit Solimon
I mean, mobages are made to get money from literal retards so i shouldn't be surprised. It must be the same kind of people that watch generic light novel adaptations. I pity you, i really do.
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>>140774419
>>140774215
wow i guess i really need to learn more about nip history
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>>140774592
Maybe. Simo Hayha definitely qualifies though.
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>>140774718
>look him up
>ugly looking motherfucker
>505 confirmed kills in one year

Holy shit.
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>>140774207

What about Ojou-Samas, English Kings and Sneks?
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>>140774718
how long man
at this point, just how much longer
Sino absolutely outperforms Billy to the tenth degree, so it's just a matter of time, right?
Fuck me I just want a Sniper servant it's so fucking cool
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>>140774870
looks have never stopped a servant
I mean, fuck, BtK looks very little like his GO incarnation.
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>>140774870
>Simo Hayha
Australian has a half chinese/white guy who got 250 at least.
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Need more saints.
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>>140760267
>simo
>not commie sniper-chan
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>>140774961
I didn't mean to say he wouldn't get in because of his looks. First thing to show up in google was his picture.

His artist will probably make him a generic white haired Slav though.
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>>140775004
They're in the game?
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>>140761771
Put the bloody mask back on.
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>>140771344
Who can't be a servant? After Ryougi became a servant by walking around I think the bar is so low literally anyone could be summoned as a servant at this point.
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>>140774912
I personally don't think Billy should've even qualified to be a servant but he's well known I guess so whatever. I doubt Simo will be a servant because I really doubt Nasu even knows who he is.
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>>140774201
Yes, and Fate Stay Night was the result of Nasu taking his high school pet writing project and turning King Arthur into a girl at Takeuchi's whims because he fell in love with the random cute girl in armor he doodled, and then inserting gratuitous sex scenes and selling it as an eroge because of current market trends.

They were always sellouts. You'll have to go as far back as Mahoutsukai no Yoru and Kara no Kyoukai if you want a non-sellout TM.
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>>140775359
At this rate Heroic Spirit MATOU is a very real possibility.
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>>140775359
Yeah, fuck everything. I'm becoming a servant.
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>>140775692
Fuck yeah! Shinji will truly be the Blue Man
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>>140760847
The only reason I'm all out hating on Fate is Nasu himself not take it seriously, it's all for shit and giggles.

It's different story when you discussing Fate with casualfags who thinks Fate is the epitome of Chinese cartoon with philosophical theme.
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>>140775693
I'd summon you, anon.
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>>140775740
*I'm not all out
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>>140775843
And I'd give you my sword
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>>140771338
Let's go deeper.
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>>140775692

There was a Heroic Spirit EINZBURN in a doujin somewhere.
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>>140771028
He can still use strengthin and no it's the abuse of any magic.
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>>140776240
>it's the abuse of any magic
Citation needed
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>>140775159
Unfortunately no. However with how Go is turning out, we can probably expect some form of the Xaviers, probably during the Extra anime, Extella release, or some random as fuck Extra event.
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>>140776396

Why is FemHakuno so bloody cute?
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>>140776209
Florence a cute.
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>>140773733
Shiki
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>>140773733
Taiga+Jaguarman
Rin+Ishtar
Sakura+Parvati
:^)
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>>140776441
It's the eyes and expression. She has that sort of dull doll like expression.
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>>140776795
So she's a Japanese dorru?
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>>140775359
>Takeuchi becomes a servant
>He become a Saberface
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>>140759156
man this is pretty dumb
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>>140776441
it's just Hakunon
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>>140759156
It's Kiritsugu demi-servant(with EMIYA), it's in his profile.
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>>140776441
Because.
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>>140760448
>>140760503
It's more complicated than that, because FGO uses FP Heroic Spirit systems instead of FSN one. That's why all Servants got their memories and shit and why they are guardians of humankind.
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>>140759156
I kinda wish this was just another version of Archer rather than Kerry.
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>>140760535
>The release of Chapter 4 at the end of last year came as a shock to fans as it touched upon a core question of the “Fate/” series, that question being, “what exactly is a Servant?” How did you decide to slip in this very important piece of lore into the story?

What exactly was this reveal? Nasu doesn't mention it in his answer.
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Friendly reminder that the Nasuverse is canonically an infinite multiverse, so of course F/GO is canon.
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>>140778805
Truth behind the summoning of servants system, its real origins, grand servants, Solomon, and a few other things revealed all at once.

Zelretch copied the servant summoning system for the Fuyuki system based on the original grand servant system.

Grand servant summoning can only be preformed by the world itself, when the world itself is in danger of dying from some great threat. It summons the seven strongest servants, one from each class, and they repel the threat. Its only happened once before in the past.

Servant containers are mere fractions of the grand containers, which don't limit their powers, so they can show their full ability. The only grand servant we know of at the moment who was summoned during the original advent was Solomon.

Something like that anyway

Magus saw the great pool of mana and energy created by the clash of these mythical beings in the past, so they decided to imitate this ritual at a fraction, and create their own grail wars. Using the heroes as a source of prana to create a wish.

Something like that anyway

Plot of the game is that the world ends in one year, and Chaldea must find a way to stop it, even though they don't know the source yet entirely.
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>>140778984
How mad would /a/ be if Grand Archer was EMIYA and Grand Assassin was EMIYA (Kerry style)?
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>>140779031
Not gonna happen. Wouldn't surprise me to see Saber as Grand Saber and Gilgamesh as Grand Archer though.

If I needed to guess who Grand Assassin would be, I'd say some culmination of all the Hassans' into some great OP mess with dozens of NP's.
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>>140779220
>Not gonna happen
Not my question.

>Gilgamesh as Grand Archer
Now, that is never gonna happen.
Grand Archer needs to be a hero of the bow, and Gil will never agree to be used as a pawn by the World.
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>>140779220
Grand asassin would be cain, the first murderer

>NP kills whoever kills him
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>>140779346
Fine, to answer your question /a/ would be just as mad as it always is to anything that happens. Most people will think it's stupid, especially Kerry, but not care all that much. People that do care will shitpost whenever it's brought up and it will last until HF comes out and becomes the new things to get angry about.
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>>140779220
I'd have a decent giggle if Grand Saber was Arthur from Prototype.
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Holy Grail Iriesviel servant confirmed
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>>140779440
>NP kills whoever kills him
And you think that shit is worthy of being the NP of a Grand Servant?
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>>140779547
It's a curse by none other than god himself, that is sure to be his NP.
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>>140779599
It's a shit-tier NP
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>>140779646
Mark of Cain reflects all damage seven times over. Its a curse that makes him unable to be damaged.

He's got other stuff as well
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>>140778984
>when the world itself is in danger of dying from some great threat
Not quite. It's not the world, just humanity. Alaya, not Gaia.
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>>140779440
He would definitely have multiple NPs just like Solomon.

>Mark of Cain
Reflects back any damage taken seven-fold.

>Original Wild Hunt
EX rank Anti-Humanity.

+ some NP that represents him being the first murderer.
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>>140779689
His descendants increase the damage reflected by 7x10^(x-1)

X being the current descendant generation
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>>140779689
>>140779735
Still shit
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Now Irisviel is also a servant. LOL
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>>140779786
>shitposting
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>>140779809
Reason for both

She's the grail possessed by Angya or something, and is a holy grail or some shit. She's also the reason Kerry is a servant, and is possessing him constantly as a servant even though he can't hear her.
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Uh
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>>140779911

>>140779509
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>>140779346
Grand Archer Hou Yi when? Dude is basically chinese Herc, even has his bitch of a wife backstabbed him. He shot down fucking suns so his NP would be planet buster tier.
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>>140776396
I ship these two together
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>>140759156
>white hair
>sandnigger skin
So what does this mean? That instead of it happening because you overload your circuits too often, it's a side effect of the The World boosting your power? How come it only happens to the Emiya family? It can't be a bloodline thing because Shirou is adopted.
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>>140780105
He's not a bad choice for Grand Archer but I would still prefer it being Heracles instead. Knowing how much Nasu likes the Chinese though Hou Yi is the more likely one to get chosen.
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>>140780237
No, it's literally just 4th War Kerry being posessed by EMIYA, nothing else to it.
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Why doesn't archer trace guns?
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>>140780294
That's not even right though, not even close

Although he is posessed by Iri
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>>140779466
Grand Saber is a Saber face voiced by Kawasumi probably the ancestor of all Saber face or Genderbent Uther
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>>140780316
Why doesn't archer just trace a nuke?
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QUICK /a/!

You have just been in charge of somehow making Fate even more shameless than it already is.
What are your first 3 courses of action?
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>>140780316
Because they wouldn't do jack shit against servants compared to his arrows.
His normal stuff tracing produces "hollows", objects with no identity, no background, no powers, no special characteristics whatsoever.
A gun traced by Archer would be just a random, complely average gun.
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>>140774874
>Sneks
What does this refer to?
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>>140780445
>A gun traced by Archer would be just a random, complely average gun.
But there's gotta be some reality where there's a super special awesome gun with a noble phantasm.
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>>140779440
Cain has no real technique. He killed his brother with a rock. He has no Presence Concealment or any real talent or skill.

>>140779689
Mark of Cain would be a worthless power for a Grand Servant. Grand Servants are supposed to fight against the ultimate threats to the planet. If they lose, that's it. Final game over. Who cares if the thing that's threatening the planet dies after the fact? By that point, there's nothing left to protect.

It's also questionable if such a concept would even work against literally everything. Gilgamesh was unaffected by all the evils of the world and it's possible that things like TYPEs might be too alien for human curses to work against.

>>140779735
This "Original Wild Hunt" idea is also worthless because it's usually unlikely that whatever's threatening the planet probably isn't human to begin with.

Cain might be a neat Servant, but he'd be pointless as a Grand Servant.
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>>140780398
>impregnate everyone
>everyone starts giving birth to holy grails
>grand order 2.0
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>>140780513
>This "Original Wild Hunt" idea is also worthless because it's usually unlikely that whatever's threatening the planet probably isn't human to begin with.
The same way Ars Almadel Salomonis is useless, right?
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>>140780395
Why doesn't archer just kill the joker?
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>>140780398
Make an SoL comedy series about the Servants living inside a dormitory together.
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>>140780491
But he can't record that shit in UBW.
He can't possibly trace gun Noble Phantasms, or if at best case scenario, he somehow can, they would cost several times more prana than swords, like Rho Aias, which would still make arrows more efficient.
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>>140780623
>But he can't record that shit in UBW.
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>Kirisugu is serve
>No
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>>140780602
I don't see how that's comparable.

How would a power that's super-effective against humans be useful against something that's not human?

A Grand Assassin's would probably need a powerset that's a little more generalized than the average Assassin's. Something that doesn't lose any effectiveness against non-human targets, that isn't reliant on things like human physiology or weaknesses. Being strong against humans isn't what's important here. If that's all that was necessary, then the planet can just sic Primate Murder on it. A Grand Assassin needs to be someone who can kill "anything", not just humans.
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>>140780398
Have a cross over with naruto.
Create a rivalry between naruto and shirou
The first hokage somehow appears as a servant.
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>>140780472
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I want Grand Order to stop
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Shut up, current event is fun

Future Waver decides to go back in time and do-over the events of Zero for some reason, and keeps fucking up the time-line by changing things to create a better result.

Matou mansion is on fire, Gilgamesh died during feast of kings, Kayneth saved, shit is going strange.
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>>140780934
>Gilgamesh died during feast of kings
How? He jobbed again?
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>>140780794
She wants to be rode
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>>140780965
They decided to get four servants to jump him, since he was an issue

Lancelot, Diarmund, Mashu, and someone else all teamed his ass.
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>>140780934
>Gilgamesh died during feast of kings
LMAO how? Did they gank him or something?
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>>140780742
What about Shiki?
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>>140780934
Don't forget Kariya is fucking useless and gets stomped on by Iskander's horse
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>>140780934
>Kayneth saved
no more fired circuits?
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>>140781000
Oh yeah, Zhuge Liang was the fourth servant

I forget he's a servant at times

Losing to everyone at once isn't jobbing so much at least.
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>>140781009
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they actually made a Shiki Grand Assassin.
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>>140781009
They don't qualify to become Servants. And they can't even kill Ultimate Ones, so what's the point?
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Also Holy Grail Caster
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>>140780934
is Sakura still in the mansion?
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>>140780934
>TL never
Yeah no, fuck this mobage.
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>>140781000
>that Airi(?)
Muh dick.

>it took 4 servants to take down the King of Heroes
As expected of best boy.
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>>140781107
We get translations

You don't since you're not part of the threads.
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>>140781000
>>140781098
Acht probably would make those dresses like this
They're just homonculi anyway, might as well get a good fap or fuck out of them too
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>>140780742
>How would a power that's super-effective against humans be useful against something that's not human?
Anti-Humanity is just a rank, the same Anti,-Unit, Anti-Army, etc.
Ars Almadel Salomonis is also classified as Anti-Humanity and it's simply a ring of light encircling that earth with enough firepower to wipe humanity out in a single moment. It's not that it's strong against humans specifically, it's just strong enough to kill off every human at the same time.
The Wild Hunt with Drake as its leader manifests as a fleet of ghost ships, the Wild Hunt under Cain as Grand Assassin would likely manifests as a collective of every single murders that has existed in the history of mankind. His NP would basically be "murder" as a concept.
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>>140781000
>black iri
>>140781037
>Oh yeah, Zhuge Liang was the fourth servant
How did he fit into the Fourth War? And interesting, finally Nasu decided to put this guy in huh, as Caster I suppose?
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>>140781138
Going through the most cancerous part of the Fate community to get to "experience" a story second-hand? No thanks.
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>>140781138
It would be more accurate to say that we get summaries and snippets of translations, really.
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So who would end up as Grand Rider?
That monkey from Chinese mythology?
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>>140781102
Why do you think they raided Matou house and then burned it down. They saved Sakura to help out Kariya.

Waver is using future knowledge to fix things. Create less drama in the future this way.

>>140781208
>How did he fit into the Fourth War? And interesting, finally Nasu decided to put this guy in huh, as Caster I suppose?

That's the guy possessing Waver servant

Waver servant has been in the game since the start of the game. Pseudo-servants are things that can't be summoned normally, so they need to find a host to manifest into. Things like divine spirits fall into this category I guess.

Waver has Zhuge's power and knowledge, but Waver is in control of the body usually, since Zhuge is a loner. Zhuge is still in the body somewhere I imagine.

its like Joan and Latecia in Apoc
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>>140781241
Hitler
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>>140781229
I heard they laughed out jetfags, so at least they're doing something right.
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>>140781241
Grand Rider is all of the Riders summoned together to ride my dick
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>>140781200
Well, you see, that depends on the definition of "murder". Against a human, it's murder, but against a planet-destroying space monster? That muddles the waters a bit. Plus I don't think the human concept of murder would matter at all to a space monster.
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>>140781241
Mother Harlot aka The Whore of Babylon.
Is sin personified and rides Death itself.
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>>140781272
Was Sakura already wormed by the time they saved her?
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Does this mean Prisma Illya will be in Go?
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>>140759744
Is that real?
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>>140781346
No crest worm, but her hymen was destroyed a bit

She's not entirely broken at least.
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>>140781359
Enjoy never being able to log in for the duration of the event.
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>>140781359
No Aniplex/Sony doesn't own Prisma Illya they will never add that
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>>140780742
>Being strong against humans isn't what's important here. If that's all that was necessary, then the planet can just sic Primate Murder on it
Hang on, why are you using Primate Murder as an example when the Grand Servants are made to counter things that threaten human civilization, rather than the planet itself? The thing specialized specifically in fucking up humans exists and would be deployed for basically the opposite reasons.
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>>140781241
Ozzy would be perfect for the role I think. Also, Wukong would fit Lancer much better because of his staff, or Berserker.
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>>140759156
I fucking hate Grand Order.
It just takes the Fate concept and keeps running.
And running.
And running.
At this point I won't be surprised by anything they pull, everything is so stupid.
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>>140761771
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>>140781363
Is she purple already?
That's the sign of her being ruined beyond repair.
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>>140780398
Use 3 kingdoms heroes for servants
Make all of them genderbent seiba clones
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>>140781497
Don't fucking trigger me like that.
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>>140781413
Because Cain would specialize in killing humans (in as much as a farmboy who killed his brother with a rock could be considered "specialized in killing"). What's the point in sending out a human killer against a human killer?

To reverse that argument, if Primate Murder were an active threat to humanity (as in it was actively trying to kill all humans), would you actually send Cain after it? What would be the point in doing that?
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>>140774718
>>140774870
>He preferred iron sights over telescopic sights
H O L Y
S H I T
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>>140781090
>They don't qualify to become Servants.
Satsujinki is famous for killing Dead Apostle Ancestors, he also has a lot of other deeds under his belt. Ryogi is a servant in F/GO for some dumbass reason.

Leaving Ryogi asides, Tohno could easily become one without going against canon.
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>>140781464
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>>140781629
>Ryogi is a servant in F/GO for some dumbass reason.

She's not a servant, she's living yet dead after the world was destroyed, as if in a dream. So she found her way into a servant container with a bit of help. If she was to wake up from the dream, she would die along with the rest of the world.

Nasu created some complicated work around to explain this one.
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>>140781423
I blame Apocrypha for starting this crazy bullshit that completely goes against the base rules just to summon fuckloads of heroes. Strange/Fake did it right.
But on the other hand, imagining Nikola Tesla attacking Mephistopheles is pretty fun
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>>140781629
>Ryogi is a servant in F/GO for some dumbass reason
It's something along the lines of Shiki's consciousness being shoved into a Servant container, I think.
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>>140781534
The problem with this whole thing is the class. Assassins really doesn't fit as being a part of a group of heroes meant to protect humanity.
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>>140781464
>>140781680
Poison Body Assassin is cuter
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>>140781740
Assassins are also heroes in the shadows, that have protected the world with their dark deeds more than a few times.

CG's are just bigger assassins

Corrupt dictator happens, and assassin saves the day.
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>>140781629
>famous
Yeah, among a few Magi who make up less than 1% of the planet's population.

Well, maybe he could have some sort of convenient loophole like >>140781710
as well. He's friends with a True Ancestor, a Magician and a successor of the TATARI. They could possibly work something out.
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>>140781806
TATARI shenanigans is probably the easiest way to bullshit Tohno into being a Servant.
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>>140781715
>goes against the base rules
Nigga the first story in this franchise went against the damn rules. Its not like every Grail War has the same rules anyway.
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>>140780398
you can breed servants with other servants
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>>140781740
The biggest problems is that an assassin is someone who kills HUMANS. If you kill monsters, you're not an assassin, you're a warrior. A hero. A Grand Assassin would have to be someone who, like all Assassins, specializes in killing humans, but their set of skills just happens to allow them to be very effective at killing things that aren't human as well. And unfortunately for Cain, I don't think hitting people with a large rock would make him very effective at assassinations.
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>Tohno Servant

He's not really popular enough to make them care.
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>>140780398
Eiyuu Senki crossover.
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>>140781912
Did they already make Nanaya a servant?
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>>140781933
You mean in April's Fool? He was a *2 Assassin.
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>>140781899
>And unfortunately for Cain, I don't think hitting people with a large rock would make him very effective at assassinations.

He's the first murderer

His first NP gives him immunity from being seen as a killer, since people did not have a concept of such a thing before he did it. This allows him to sneak up behind and take out one servant without them realizing that death was a possible thing

Doing this however causes his second NP to take effect, Mark of Cain. A permanently active NP that makes him wander around without a master with EX Independent Action, but always must be alone, but he cannot take any damage in this form or else damage is reflected.
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>>140781912
I don't think anyone is even thinking about making Tohno into servant
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>>140780518
>grand order 2.0
That's actually confirmed.
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>>140769132
Sounds like Type-Moon is creatively bankrupt
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>>140781629
Is old Tsukihime even canon anymore?
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>>140781970
But how useful would those skills be against something like, say, ORT for example? I mean, even if Cain could walk up to ORT without any issue, it's not as if killing ORT with a rock would do anything to it. They'd just be stuck at an impasse, which is pretty pointless for an Assassin. He'd basically just be dead weight against anything that isn't a human and easily killable target.

What if there's a meteor on a collision course for Earth and about to wipe out humanity? What's any of that gonna do to it? The other Grand Servants probably have some laser or super destructive power to take out something like that, but you can't exactly murder a giant rock falling from space.

That's why I'm saying Cain would be worthless as a Grand Servant. He's supposed to be protecting humanity from huge, planetary threats, but his specific theoretical skillsets would be worthless against something like that.
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>>140782017
You could say the same for the opposite side. They have a cooperative relationship.
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>>140782224
I hope you're trolling
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>tfw just wanna roll my waifu
Fuck this game
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>>140782017
Nasu's just a huge soulsfag.
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>>140782285
That's why I don't play and just look at the summaries and TLs. I know that if I played I wouldn't stop blowing money until I got my waifu and her alternate forms.
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>>140782169
Grand Servant are the representatives or their class. Assassins are supposed to murder humans, you can't assassinate someone that isn't a person. Having anyone else besides Cain as the Grand Assassin would be completely retarded.

Easiest way to make him a threat against non-humans:
>murder as a concept didn't exist before he invented it
>he can cause the death of anything inventing a way to kill it
Now he goes from worthless to potentially the most lethal of all Grand Servants.
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So, when is Illya going to be a servant?
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>>140782364
Well at that point, you'd need to come up with a shitload of clauses that would explain why he's not killing everyone and everything left and right?

>"Why is he a boss? Why isn't he just killing us straight out?"
>"Why doesn't he just kill the threat and be done with it?"
>"Did he just lose? How the fuck did he lose? He's supposed to be able to murder ANYTHING."

If he's a boss, there has to be a reason why he's not killing you immediately. If he's an ally, there needs to be a reason why you're the hero who needs to save the world and not him.
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>>140759156
>Emiya Kiritsugu instead of EMIYA
No thanks
>Iskandar muh games and conquest xD
No thanks

>Think event is dead
>Angry Manjew appears
>Want to roll manjew
>LAG all over the place takes me like a minute for every roll
>Lag stops
>2 minutes later servers down, maintenance

Oh fuck DW. Also the event is weird as fuck I don't know what to do, I could give a fuck if I was getting something out of it but Irisviel is the shittiest Zero character(and that's to say something) and Kerrytugu already ruined my day.
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>>140782295
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>>140782489
At some point in the future. I mean, Sakura, Rin and Taiga are confirmed to become servants, Illya has 99% of possibilities to become one.
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>>140782364
Solomon can kill people by staring
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>>140776227
>Heroic Spirit EINZBERN
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>>140782295
>Amazing chest ahead
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So what's the story of this?
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>>140782597
Story of Grand Order, or Zero event?

Story of Zero event is Waver going through the events of Zero due to a time-anomlay detected, and he's causing shit to turn out differently bit by bit.
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>>140782541
>The Emiya/Einzbern family all as Servants

Sounds like comedy gold waiting to happen.
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What class would Nasu be?
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>>140782704
Ruler, obviously
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>>140782704
Slacker class.
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Kayneth - won over by appealing to his ego, which also nets you Diarmund
Kariya - won over by helping to save Sakura

Waver is a smooth operator, he's talking them all into coming over to his side to win the war. Must be Zhuge's famous strategies.
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>>140782704
Caster, that's the class all authors have been slapped in so far.
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>>140781000
at this point they're just gonna make Alter versions of all the girls
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>>140781359
>>140782489
I'm honestly surprised we haven't gotten anything like it yet, with all the stupid shit GO throws in.
Prisma pioneered dress-up Servants like eight years ago, there's no way they can ignore the appeal of "cute little girl version" Servants forever.
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>>140782860
Alter's are always connected to the grail

Iri Alter, Saber Alter, Cu Alter, Joan Alter

They're all either created by the grail, warped by the grail, or are the grail given form.
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>>140782877
>Pioneered

It happened in Fate/hollow ataraxia first, with Shirou and Avenger.
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>>140782877
Prisma isn't owned by Aniplex, so the chances that it appears in GO are slim.
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>>140782877
Prisma is owned by Kadokawa, so I doubt it'll happen.
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>>140782704
Vegetable
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>>140782585

Actually it was this.
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>>140783037
>Farmer class
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>>140759156
posting on /a/
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>>140782910
I guess you're right there.

>>140783018
>>140783019
What a shame
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>>140783018
>>140783019
Hiroyama could make an Illya servant if he wants though.
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>>140780794
Is there anything Rin won't fuck?
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Who is the most powerful Heroic Spirit?
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>>140783487

Shinji, most other guys.
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>>140783487
Shinji.
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>>140782116
No, the anime is canon.
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>>140780398
Holy Grail war in america
Saber's master is black
All the Servants are Saberfaces
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>>140783494
Powerman
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>>140759156
Why was this even necessary?
Archer is already a million times better than Kerry EMIYA as an assassin.
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>>140783487
If given the option, she probably wouldn't be entirely averse to fucking Sakura either.
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>>140783638
Milk the fanbase
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>>140783644
It's the other way around, actually.
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>>140783550
>Holy Grail war in america

There already is one though.
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>>140783683
Why are Tohsakas so degenerate?
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>>140783709
Latinoamerica*
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>>140783739
Because if Tokiomi, he has another daughter somewhere before he had Rin, Rin wants to fuck her cousin Luvia, etc
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>>140780398
Grail war set in a futuristic Italy, with heroic spirit AVENGER saberface BERLUSCONI as the MC's servant, who's a priest living in Vatican City.
Her NP would be 'Arte of Bunga Bunga', an EX rated anti unit curse, which instantly blackens the mind of female servants.
From this the story writes itself.
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>>140783739
Because they have no mom or dad.
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>>140783494
Currently Solomon. Probably Grand Saber.
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>>140783797

Who wouldn't want to fuck Luvia?
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>>140783840
I wonder how much Kirei fapped to Rin's tear stained face after Tokiomi's funeral, and then Aoi's.
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>>140759449
If you don't know who kiritsugu is it is doubtful you ever even cared about the series
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>>140783739
They're all degenerates. And it's awesome.
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>>140760128
Man, all male Hakuno needs to do is put on a headband and he'll be best Heroic Spirit.
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>>140783487
You
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Hakuno's Noble Phantasm: Universal Adoration. Rank is EX. The bearer of this power will come to be beloved by all, men, women, living, dead, adults, children, human, non-human. Even those who should be enemies may come to love the bearer. However, this power cannot be limited or restrained in any way. Love can come in many forms, and can manifest as both unrivaled gentleness and violent madness.
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>>140784188
Play CCC

Most people don't see Hakuno as shit, completely normal and unredeeming. After all he is too normal.

Gilgamesh notes that Hakuno's charm seems to mostly work on very dangerous girls or deranged types.

yandere magnet
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>>140784248
So does Gilgamesh see himself as deranged?
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>>140759156
>Alignment: Chaotic ・ Evil

What he did horrible things but he certainly was not evil.
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>>140784284
He doesn't want to fuck you

Closest it gets is a sort of bro relationship
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>>140784319
Adoration and love are not limited to romance or sex.
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>>140784248
sounds like a good idea to have Mhakuno x Fhakuno
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>>>/v/
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>>140782364

Cain can't be summoned because Cain is immortal and still wandering the Earth, as per your fucking description, moron.
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>>140784901
You missed the part where Solomon killed literally everyone.
Scathach was immortal too, look how that turned out.
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How would YOU fix it?
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>>140785053
Like this
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>>140785134
Dante would be too cool for that universe.
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>>140784188
>friendzoned by EMIYA and Gilgamesh who pine after Seiba

Top kek. Only effective with lesbians, anon.
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>>140774870
>505 confirmed kills in one year
Not one year anon, 100 days. In winter. A Finnish winter with little daylight.
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>>140784979
Except for Merlin, yeah. But he's likely in his hobo prison in Chaldea now.
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>>140785227
>implying MHakuno and EMIYA isn't objectively the canon romantic Extra pairing
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>>140781806
>Kiritsugu becomes a servant for shooting some random fucks nobody in the world knows
>Satsujinki can't be a servant for killing DAAs and all his MB fuckery
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>>140785134
Dante solos.
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>>140785487
Kiritsugu's not a Servant. He's being possessed by a Servant, like Mashu.
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>>140785922
Are you sure he's a demiservant and not a pseudo-servant?
Mashu's not possessed by Galahad, she just has all of Galahad's powers and equipment. No mind or knowledge is passed onto her.
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>>140785987
Either way, he's not a Servant by his own merits. He's just a conduit for an actual Servant's power.
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>>140786373
That's what we call an improvement.
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>>140785922
He's not actually possessed by Shirou or Simo, there's a lot of things flying around at the moment as far as what's said

Lot of fake info
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>>140770588
grandblue can be played in english ? damn im retarded I though you couldn't
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>>140759156
Damn it. This will never end.
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>>140759156
He's no assassin, just a monster.
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>>140759156
When will Japs get tired of this Grand Order shit and move on?
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>>140786492
Turns out he's not possessed by anything, he really is a legit heroic spirit.

Shiroufags BTFO
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>>140786492
>>140786817
Could somebody just post his fucking max bond profile
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This just means that even I could become a heroic spirit one day
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>>140786888
In one alternate potential time-line, you could, maybe.

People seem to have an issue with this shit, but they don't have an issue with Shirou in a distant unseen time-line becoming a servant after selling his soul.

Meanwhile in some alternate world-line out there, Kerry seems to have done the same.
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>>140786888

Khornate quads agree. You can be a servant of the Blood God.
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>>140784188
This sounds like the premise of a badly written yaoi. Not that I object to it.
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>>140774140
>Nobunaga is another genderbent hero
>Hideyoshi is literally a kid with monkey like features
Damn it Nasu
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>>140786888
>Just a bit more until 30
>Soon I will have wizard powers
Thats it.
My NP will be Unlimited NO Works, inside this reality marble(my room) I will be able to trace the millions of shitposts I created in my NEET life to attack you.
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>>140788127
Not all love is sexual.

Over the course of the first game, for instance, a lot of characters end up taking a liking to him/her. Some may be romantically attracted to him. Others sympathize with him/her and find him/her easy to get along with. Archer doesn't fall for him/her, but he does come to adore him/her, eventually acting entirely out of loyalty for Hakuno. Alice and Julius die peacefully having experienced Hakuno's kindness and sympathy. Even Shinji in CCC is able to come to terms with his death with the knowledge that Hakuno, at least, will remember him.

In CCC, Andersen describes Hakuno as a protagonist who is beloved by everyone. Being loved doesn't necessarily mean everyone wants to fuck him/her. It just means that, more often than not, given sufficient contact with Hakuno, most characters have a tendency to really come to like him/her.
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>>140788269
Nobunaga and Hideyoshi were basically joke characters. In Grand Order, they're event characters, much like Mysterious Heroine X and Santa Alter. They're not really meant to be taken seriously.
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MY FUCKING DICK
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Even more confirmed now that Kiritsugu isn't "Fused with another servant and is a demi-servant" or whatever, and is just a CG who isn't normally summonable.
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>>140788440
Why the hell is HE a Counter Guardian? What would the world want with him? Shirou's one thing, he can create Noble Phantasms. Kerry's not special at all.

I was under the impression that the world only acknowledges contractees who it deems would be useful to it.
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>>140788514
The guy who's killed millions of people, and has a special bounded field that's super strong, and has proved his worth hundreds of times.

The guy who its stated that Shirou at the peak of his power, at the apex of his ability might be given an evaluation on par with Kiritsugu

You're saying there's nothing good or special about him at all and Shirou is a thousand times better? I think you're a bit biased so you might be blind to a few things, but the world recognized his talent.
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>>140788440
I was honestly about to say why he wasn't a CG and EMIYA was
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>>140788388
Who is that supposed to be? Irisiviel?
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>>140788595
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>>140788624
Its the holy grail called Iriesviel

Also CG Kiritsugu sounds so damn broken, mentally.
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>>140788564
>killed millions of people
No. Maybe a thousand, but even that would be pushing it. Even if he killed a hundred people every day since he became a mercenary, he still wouldn't have killed "millions".

And the reason I say there's nothing special about him is because he doesn't have any sort of trump card. He has guns and bombs and shit, but he doesn't have an equalizer like Shirou. Shirou can literally create Noble Phantasms. Compared to Archer's tactics, skills, techniques and pragmatism, the thing that actually makes him valuable and sets him apart from the rest is his Reality Marble. Without it, he'd get his ass kicked by literally everyone.

Kerry is an Emiya Shirou without the power to shit out Noble Phantasms.
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>>140788564
>The guy who its stated that Shirou at the peak of his power, at the apex of his ability might be given an evaluation on par with Kiritsugu
That's normal Shirou.
Shirou scales out of whack when you hook him up to an infinite magical energy battery and he can trace NPs all day long. (i.e. counter guardians)
Kiritsugu needed an extremely powerful Last Phantasm magical artifact just to use his own magecraft without dying instantaneously.

Kiritsugu had tactical skill and competence, which is utterly useless for a Counter Guardian who is a mindless force of destruction made to wipe a crisis off the map.
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>>140788777
Kiritsugu with infinite magic backup can use his Time Alter without limits, infinitely speeding himself up to move faster than everyone else.

It no longer burns out his body

Even as a servant we see him using this handily
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>>140788826
That doesn't make sense in the slightest. Amplifying Time Alter with more magical energy should cause significantly more damage to his body, not lessen it.
In other words, it's a complete retcon.
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>>140788712
>>And the reason I say there's nothing special about him is because he doesn't have any sort of trump card

His NP is Time-Alter

Its a very powerful mystic code, that he couldn't entirely use in life. He only received a very small amount of it from his dead father. Just like how Shirou couldn't aptly use UBW as well in life, compared to when he was dead.

During life this ability at the apex of his fight with Kerry already made him as strong as low tier servants.
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>>140788826
That really doesn't make any sense. The fact that the paradox caused by Time Alter causes immense damage to the user after its use shouldn't change. When other Servants use a technique or ability that acts as a double-edged sword, they're still affected by the detrimental effects. Kiritsugu should still be getting injured whenever he uses Time Alter, even as a Servant. The fundamental consequences of skills, abilities and Noble Phantasms that have them don't change whether you're a human or a Servant.
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>>140788874
Its not a physical body any more, stop pretending everything is a retcon so you can hate. Servants heal faster, since they're made of energy.
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>>140788564
>killed millions of people
False.
>has a special bounded field that's super strong
Also false. He can only use it properly with the help of Avalon, a fucking EX-rank Noble Phantasm. Otherwise, it's not that strong.
>Shirou at the peak of his power, at the apex of his ability might be given an evaluation on par with Kiritsugu
By the Association, who don't know shit. They would likely never learn about UBW, and they feared Kerry because he was good at killing them, not because of he was exceptionally talented at magic.
>Shirou is a thousand times better?
Yes. A Reality Marble is FAR superior than anything Kerry has. It's the type of magic closest to True Magic, it's unique to the user and defies the World itself. Not to mention UBW is one OP Reality Marble thanks to it's sheer versatility, especially when used with a large prana supply, so It's not hard to imagine why the World would want such a power in it's arsenal.
Kerry's Time Alter is just plain average compared to a fucking RM.
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>>140788918
Servants have a limit to their regenerative capability. They don't want to injure themselves with every micro-movement. Spilling too much energy from their spiritual core makes them die.
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>>140788918
Servants can still get injured. They're not invincible. When they get hurt, they need to take time to heal. Why do you think Archer was put out of commission for so long after he gets cut by Saber in the Fate route?
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>>140788933
Edmond Dantes looks just fine once you get past his wisping aura of edginess and lightning
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>>140788983
>>140788989

That's what mana is for.
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>>140788440
He's not a CG.

There is no mention of him being a CG. Stop posting what some retard said in /fgog/

The only thing that is said in his profile >>140788628

Is that he's a "what-if", and someone that wouldn't be summoneable under other circumstances outside of "Grand Order".
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>>140789033
Again, why do you think Archer took so long to heal? Not all Servants have healing factors like Saber and Medea.
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>>140789033
There's a limit to that. It means he should be trash as a servant even if he has Holy Grail tier regeneration as a counter guardian.

>>140789043
Dude that image you linked called him a fucking 守護者. That's the title of the beast of Alaya.
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>>140786960
Ciaphas Cain as a Rider
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>>140789101
Moonreader here. At the bottom. It literally says that he's just a "what-if" scenario character who can only exist in Grand Order.

It's like with Arcueid in Fate/EXTRA. She wasn't really supposed to be there at all, but Nasu just said "Whatever, just roll with it." and that was the end of it.
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>>140789101
>Dude that image you linked called him a fucking 守護者. That's the title of the beast of Alaya.


That image also says that he's a "what-if" that only happens in "Grand Order".
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>>140788918
>>140789033
Being hooked to an infinite supply of prana doesn't mean having an immortal body, or being able to hold and use as much prana as you want. You should have learned that from HF already, fucking secondary.
Kerry would still sustain damage and would die if he abused time alter, even if he had all the prana in the world.
His ability to store prana and his maximum output is limited by his C-rank mana stat, and that also puts a cap on his usage of Time Alter, regardless if he can refill from the World's supply.
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>>140789162
>>140789170
It's still a "what if" as in "what if Kiritsugu made the deal to become a counter guardian".
A hypothetical character may be, but a hypothetical counter guardian even in that case.

>>140789189
Being hooked up to infinite magical energy does cause your regeneration to spike ridiculously. In chapter 5 it let Cuchulainn Alter survive a Vasavi Shakti to the face, though he had to flee and regenerate.
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Is that Jonah?
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>>140789052
>>140789189

You seem to have made the mistake of assuming that the same people reply to you every time. With the exception of boards with ids, posting is completely anonymous. Repeating yourself is pointless. I simply wanted to point out that servants do not have the same limitations as when they were living beings. You can read into GO as much as you want, but Kiritsugu is clearly far more powerful than you're suggesting within the context of the game.
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>>140789286
That still should not affect the inherent downsides to Time Alter. No matter how much more powerful he becomes, the mechanics of Time Alter should not change, especially since it fucks with the very laws of the world and Kiritsugu isn't nearly a good enough Magus to know of a means to make up for that.
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>>140789286
>You seem to have made the mistake of assuming that the same people reply to you every time
Oh, the irony
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Why did his physical body get the EMIYA treatment?
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>>140789259
Cuchulainn Alter also has battle continuation rank A and runes that amplify healing.
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>>140789356

Is English not your first language? Modern etymology of "you" is both singular and plural. Do you really think I would be so stupid as to call you out for being retarded, only to make the very same mistake myself? Grasp at straws harder newfag.

In general, you aren't supposed to assume the same person has responded to you because you cannot tell. This should force you to judge a post by its own merits and not by prejudgements made based on prior posts, but clearly you aren't fond of this notion or else you wouldn't have asked me such a stupid question under the pretense that I made previous comments as well.
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>>140789445
Holy shit, you are one arrogant douchebag, aren't you?
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>>140789395
They probably wanted to piss of EMIYAfags. Which is not really smart.

Honestly dunno, Suwabe was the VA listed for EMIYA Assassin in the datamine, so it seems they just changed that since then for some reason, probably because there's going to be EMIYA Alter
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>>140789471

Accusing others of arrogance while arrogantly assuming so much of others is too ironic. How many layers on irony are you on right now? Surely you noticed that I have not even tried to suggest that Kiritsugu can use Time Alter ad infinitum just because he's a servant now. I simply said his capabilities are far greater now that he is no longer limited by a physical body.
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>>140789512
I'm not him. I'm just flabbergasted that someone as pompous and self-important as you can actually exist. Do you really talk like that in real life or is this just for when you wanna sound superior and impressive on the internet?
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Why do they all turn into niggers when they become servants? See Shirou.

Literally "We wuz servants n shite"
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>>140789512
Look at this fedora tipper
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>>140776209
Literally Koko
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>>140789512
>How many layers on irony are you on right now?
He was not the one who called you on your mistake, moron.
You're just adding to the ridicule right now.
People like you who think everyone but them is a samefag are the worst kind of autists.
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>>140789576
The latter of course
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>>140789662
I happen to talk arrogantly like you IRL, but pretend I'm a humble and modest person on the internet, weird huh?
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so when can I roll for heroic spirit mcremitz?
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>>140759156
>>>/v/
>>>/v/
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Anyone got butthurt with the current state of typemoon now?
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>>140790078
I verged on it once Thomas Edison's design was leaked, but after actually playing through America I am more than content with the situation.
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>>140790159
I'm upset that nasu wants to include primate murder and all 27 DAA in GO, at this point i wouldn't be surprised if nasu will insert the forgotten tsukihime 2 plot in GO event
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>>140790249
Primate Murder and the upper echelons of the DAAs were never fitting for Tsukihime to begin with. Only the ones who aren't physically terrifying, but just conceptually weird are adequate to tango with Shiki.
Tsukihime II was never a serious plan. It was a joke from the start.

Meanwhile, fighting a squadron of Servants is absolutely a fitting scale for, say, Merem Solomon or Van-Fem's demon castle golems.
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>>140771471
Hoping he'll have the ability to change into his feathered serpent form.

Wondering also what class he'll be.
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>>140790539
I'm betting Quetzalcoatl is just going to be Hernán Cortés with false Divinity.
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>>140790353
>All this headcanon
Sad
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>>140790680
Darn.

So we won't have the bro-god who pierced his own dick for humankind?

Shame.
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>>140790683
Name a single part of that that's headcanon, except perhaps Van-Fem's demon castles being adequate to fight servants.
They could be hilariously weaker than servants or ridiculously stronger, I admit that's just a hedge. We have no idea of their power scale.
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>>140790680
>I'm betting Quetzalcoatl is just going to be Hernán Cortés with false Divinity
This is genius, make it happen Nasu!
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>>140790810
The fact that you're literally posting your fanfiction.
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>>140790957
And what would that be?
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>>140790794
>>140790847
It's confirmed to be a gender-bent. You can ask /fgog/
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>>140790971
Your entire post

Starting with
>Primate Murder and the upper echelons of the DAAs were never fitting for Tsukihime to begin with.

Following with
>Only the ones who aren't physically terrifying, but just conceptually weird are adequate to tango with Shiki. Tsukihime II was never a serious plan. It was a joke from the start.

Ending with
>Meanwhile, fighting a squadron of Servants is absolutely a fitting scale for, say, Merem Solomon or Van-Fem's demon castle golems.
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>>140790997
Fuck off, Wormslut.
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>>140790997
>>Primate Murder and the upper echelons of the DAAs were never fitting for Tsukihime to begin with.
Let's see here: they aren't. They'd destroy Shiki and his entire city in seconds. So; it's like bringing an orbital laser cannon to a knife fight. Not applicable.

>>Only the ones who aren't physically terrifying, but just conceptually weird are adequate to tango with Shiki. Tsukihime II was never a serious plan. It was a joke from the start.
Meanwhile, this is accurate. Shiki can fight against the strange, even the strange that the powerful can't fight against, because his eyes have abnormal powers. Arcueid, for all her strength, could never kill Roa for good, or finish off Nrvnqsr. Shiki can, so their inclusion is apropos for the story.

>>Meanwhile, fighting a squadron of Servants is absolutely a fitting scale for, say, Merem Solomon or Van-Fem's demon castle golems.
And lastly, this is generally accurate except for the guesswork of DAA power scales.

Thus: make an argument or fuck off.
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Where is the prisma thread for the new chapter
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>>140788933
how can you say bad things about not-nagito?
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>>140776441
I prefer female Shirou more.
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>>140791097
>Shiki is the only character in tsukihime

Sorry it's too late and i'm too tired to keep reading your fanfic, just stop posting or go to fanfiction.net where you can post your hypotetical series.
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>>140790973
So pierced clitoris for the sake of humankind?
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>>140791100

No-one cares for Lesbian Lolis.
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>>140791143
If your antagonists have no interaction with your protagonist, you're writing a shitty story senpai.
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>>140791097
>They'd destroy Shiki
Why are you so obsessed with Shiki? Why not use Arc for your examples? that way you would realize you're not making any sense.
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>>140791150
But it got Artorias the Abysswalker.
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>>140791152
That's why I told you, you can write your own series in fanfiction.net
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>>140791201
Arc's not the protagonist, mate. If Arcueid is supposed to be the one fighting the antagonists and sweeping up dramatic tension, well, why is Arcueid not the protagonist?

>>140791222
So you have no grasps of the basic principles of storytelling and think anyone who does is a fanfiction writer. You must hold fanfiction in very high esteem!
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>>140791276
>Arc's not the protagonist
So? that's beside the point. She contradicts your whole argument, and there's plenty of other characters that do the same.
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So they said Zero is not canon for this?
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>>140781790
She's also a huge bitch and her cuteness doesn't make up for that.
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>>140791318
Yes. Turns out Worm-Anon was right all along, F/Z is not canon.
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>>140791208
yeah, except artorias isn't a shitty character
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>>140791317
There's no contradiction because it is not beside the point at all. In fact it is heavily on the point. What is appropriate or inappropriate to introduce to the story as an antagonist is how it interacts with the protagonist.
So unless you think Primate Murder does not deserve to be an antagonist, and should be a side character of no importance to the plot, or by some fuck-off reasoning a protagonist, it should not be included in the story unless it's an obstacle Shiki (the protagonist) could overcome.
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>>140791366
They announced it in NicoNico stream.
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>>140791382
Primate Murder is literally Arcueid's sister pet, of course it doesn't deserve to be an antagonist. Who'd take a pet seriously?
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>>140791416
Everyone who's read Fate/Extra CCC and knows just what it means to have the Authority to slay all primates.
In any case, then why not allow it to appear in Grand Order, which is all too welcoming to lore subjects that can't be given top billing?
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>>140791382
>There's no contradiction because it is not beside the point at all
That's not how logic works, idiot.
And that's not even how stories work. There are plenty of stories where the protagonist doesn't do the fighting and he's still the protagonist, and he still has ties to the antagonist. You just need to read more.
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>>140791445
>why not allow it to appear in Grand Order
Because it's wasted potential.
Grand Order sucks at storytelling.
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>>140791446
>That's not how logic works, idiot.
There's no contradiction because Arcueid isn't relevant. Even if she could defeat the threat in this case, if she does, it's bad writing and therefore it's not a subject worth any thought. It's not something that should happen.

>And that's not even how stories work. There are plenty of stories where the protagonist doesn't do the fighting and he's still the protagonist, and he still has ties to the antagonist. You just need to read more.

Sure: now how's that gonna relate to Shiki? That'd work with Tohno Makihisa or Kishima Kouma, not the 27 Dead Apostle Ancestors to which he has no ties or relationship whatsoever. The struggle doesn't intrinsically have to be physical combat, but to have narrative strife you need a relationship between the characters.
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>>140791493
>Arcueid isn't relevant

I'm done with your bait.

3/10. Made me cringe a bit, but utimately belongs in fanfiction.net.
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>>140791540
>love interest should defeat all the antagonists!!
Nope. Back to writer's school.
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>>140791445
>Everyone who's read Fate/Extra CCC and knows just what it means to have the Authority to slay all primates.
Are you a powerlevel fag? Do you think stories are based around fighting and powerlevels? Arcueid can easily take care of PM.

So again, stop writing your fan fiction. Just because PM can appear in a Fate work (Servants are literally based on Grand Servants, the ones that were used to contain PM in the past) doesn't mean that you get to write your fanfics about why it doesn't belong in another story in the same universe, Altrouge is connected to Arcueid, Tsukihime's main heroine and PM is Altrouge's pet.

So again, stop being retarded. Fuck off
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>>140791559
Come on, you can do better than that.
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>>140791570
No, but concepts in stories should have gravitas. And something that, as a concept, represents the unstoppable annihilation of the human race, should be treated with very significant weight indeed.
Arcueid can't even beat Altrouge, so we can infer she can't beat PM who is an even bigger monster.

>(Servants are literally based on Grand Servants, the ones that were used to contain PM in the past)
Now who's the one shooting off fanfiction? Grand Servants were chosen to halt a destroyer of civilizations born of civilization. Counter Guardians hold back Primate Murder. You think because they both have the number 7 that they're meant to be the same circumstance?

>Altrouge is connected to Arcueid
And Altrouge doesn't show up in Tsukihime either because she'd be inappropriate until she could be overcome as an antagonist, fuckwit.
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>>140791654
1/10
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>>140791599
Who makes these?
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>>140791654
>should be treated with very significant weight indeed.
Yeah, better put it in a cellphone videogame that sucks at telling a cohesive and well developed overarching story and is plagued by countless plot holes and conflicts with the already established canon!
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>>140791802
stop replying to bait.
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>>140791802
F/GO tells a better story than Fate/Apocrypa and Prisma Illya so go troll on your own time.
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>>140791816
Don't forget Fate/Zero
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>>140791374
Artorias is a damned failure is what he is.
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>>140791951
Yeah, she's almost as bad as Wormslut
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>>140791951
Well technically you are Artorias.
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>>140791855
I'll give you the last 4 chapters and the KnK and Dantes events, but not the first two chapters or random events.
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>>140792003
Give me whatever you want, but I'm not taking that shit.
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>>140792003 (me)
And obviously I meant the last three chapters because Septem was garbage.
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>>140779911
Adult like even, nice boobs
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At least he's cool
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