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>tfw you will never be a TSF
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>>140738511
Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI
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praise Raptor-sama.
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The amount of butthurt newfags will be glorious this summer.
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>>140738648
God bless America that is a sexy motherfucking machine.
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>>140738648
L-LEWD!
DELET THIS!
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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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>>140738722
>>140738735
Enjoy the fruits of capitalism and the free market.
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>>140738780
>big crotch piece
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>>140738780

Hear hear!
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>>140738780
I wanna be inside it
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Is volume 13-15 of the Alternative manga uploaded anywhere? I can only find up to volume 12
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpp208_pink-floyd-the-final-cut-film-complete-1983_music

Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is THE soundtrack, comrades.
He`s now working on his next album about interdimensional matress travel - when he`s not busy calling out the jew.

Also, commissar Gretel and Martin were lucky to attend to the last concert of the Puhdys https://youtu.be/7FCWNS02jP4
But you can't forget the classics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6ZtGpSH4g
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Pastebin of Schwarzesmarken '86 and alternate stories set in the same continuity so far. Gonna continue from last thread >>140737152

http://pastebin.com/s2JFnkwb
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Theo's cassette collection:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRG_5R6fiHfRkrpS3-w2a5n08XHc7BSdU
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I want to hold hands with Raptor tan.
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>>140739376
B-baka
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>>140739299
Nice anon!
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We need drawfags for healanon's story.

And more healing plz.
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>>140740389
I want muh Schwarzesmarken '86
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>>140740389
We getting Theo soon?
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>>140740594
>katia dogbowll
erry time
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Irisdina is a good girl and she deserves a happy ending!
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Wasn't the BETA version of Extra supposed to be out in early April? What happened to it?
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>>140741024
They all deserve a happy ending.
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>>140741024
I want to marry Irisdina.
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>>140741024
>>140741149
Iris is my wife, back off
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>>140741149
Be a good husband
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>>140738511
?
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>>140738511
Best individuals capable of creating and nurturing other human beings inside their bodies.
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>>140741989
Like this ones
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>>140741989
>>140742050
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>>140742138
>capable of creating [...] other human beings inside their bodies
>posts Lise
I'm a lisefag but don't be idiotic.
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>>140742286
Its a small frame but I'm sure she could manage. She's a tough cookie.
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>>140742309
That's not the problem here.
How many times do you think the tadpole got to the omelette? She got falcon punched day in day out.
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>>140742309
I'm sorry anon but Lise's womb is barren
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>>140742337
>>140742354
Says who
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>>140742367
The Stasi files
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>>140742367
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>>140742409
And which ones say she's barren and falcon punched hmmmmm
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>>140742459
File 2260
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If they were to discover that Jurgen was being held in a top secret stasi jail, would Beatrix and Iris work together to free him, or would their hate be so strong that they'd still try to screw one another over?
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>>140742474
Do you have it on hand to share with the rest of the class and prove it? Do ya anon?
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>>140742508
You need to fill this form
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>>140740594
I'd keep Katia outside too. Wouldn't want stained carpets and stuff.
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>>140742508
>>140742571
and captcha ate it
http://www.bstu.bund.de/EN/AccessToRecords/AccessForPrivateIndividuals/Application/request-form.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
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>>140742494
Nah, they'd still be trying to fuck one another over. They'd both be trying their hardest to get him out, but the wouldn't be helping each other. I don't think Beatrix would even swap over to the rebels to free Jurgen. She'd stage her own separate coup while still fighting Iris and the rebels.
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>>140742494
>>140742610
They try to get him on their respective side
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>>140742601
But I can only view my own files with this, not Lise's.
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>>140742742
Point 2
>2.2 as a near relative of a missing or deceased person
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A new thread? SHEEEEEEIT. I missed the last one. Where's Healanon?
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>>140742783
We're not related. And the only one left alive who is related to her is Theo.
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>>140742811
Is that a tractor pulling along a jet on a civilian road?
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>>140742688
That's pretty much a given. Beatrix already tries to poach people from Iris. It would really come down to who got him out first who he'd probably side with. It wouldn't matter in the end though. Any side Jurgen would take, Beatrix would follow, so if he sided with the rebels, Beatrix would try to go rebel too. Jurgen might not be a big fan of Suzy's whole "torture and execute" his waifu plan though.
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>>140742952
>Jurgen might not be a big fan of Suzy's whole "torture and execute" his waifu plan though

I think nobody is ok with that, save for some moderate rebels
I wish that Gretel BLAM'd Suzy
Gretel route never ;_;
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>>140742952
>>140743142
If Beatrix went rebel, she would've destroyed Suzy.
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>>140743244
If only
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>>140743274
>I wish that Gretel BLAM'd Suzy

Me too. Some crazy crap could happen in Martyrs. You never know.
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>>140743351
I'm not having any hope about that
It's going to be Iris, Katia and Lise routes, with Beato as the secret one
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>>140743394
I mean you never know what could happen to Suzy in the different routes. Mabye something does convince Gretel to do it and it somehow doesn't result in the 666th getting moderated.
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>>140743244
>>140742952
>>140743274

Wasn't Beatrix joining up with Heim and Iris (and taking all the Werewolves along) one of Schmidt's biggest fears in the LN? I know he explicitly brings up Beatrix's relationship to the Bernhards when he was needling her during the poison scene.
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>>140743455
Don't think so, Katia would be very pro-rebel, Iris perhaps too but with more siding with the NVA and Lise would be the oppositemaybe you even have to confrontate the 666th
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>>140743613
Here's how it goes down:

Katia: Internationalist (firm believer in united humanity), idealist, pro-rebellion, democracy, withdrawing from Oder Neiss
Iris: Nationalistic (intensely distrusts the West, Soviets, and UN), pragmatic, mix of state/rebel, not as authoritarian as Beatrix but not as freedom loving as Katia, withdrawing from Oder Neiss
Beatrix (because really, Lise isn't political): Internationalist (firm believer in UN), pragmatic, authoritarianism, pro-state, hold the line
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>>140743919
Why would Iris want to withdraw form the Oder Niess line? (and Katia too)
They don't realize that's the only defensive line until the Alps and the Pyrenees?
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Who else wish they lived in the Muv Luv world?

I want to be an ace TSF pilot.
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>>140744050
They don't want to retreat from the Oder-Neisse
I don't know where he pulled that out from
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Lise is for kissing, cuddling and loving.
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>>140744103
I think is rather an evacuation of DDR citizens
maybe
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>blonde hair
>blue eyes
>white skin
>diehard nationalist
>German
>Protestant Christian

Was Iris made for /pol/?
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>>140744076
>implying you won't be an infantryman on a trench somehwere
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>>140743919
Best girl stays out of dirty politics and fights for love.
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>>140744375
God, I want to braid her hair so much.
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>>140744076
I want to be a tragic imouto
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>>140744375
Technically, Beatrix is fighting for love too.
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Why is Gretel so bulliable?
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>>140744550
Then the best route should be obvious.
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>>140744800
Considering that SM subverts many of ML's themes, probably not. SM isn't so much save in the name of true love, as get fucked over in the name of true love. Nearly every single instance of tru luv in SM has the couple coming out way worse. If anything, SM's theme would be that love is poisonous and toxic to the human soul.
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>>140745035
So live a hollow, loveless life instead? SM isn't saying love itself is toxic, although conflicting interests in love can lead to some uncomfortably confrontational experiences. If anything its saying life isn't worth living without it.

Theo's love for Iris and Katia sprung him out of his funk and gave him purpose again. Lise's love for Theo kept her and him alive, and because it wasn't reciprocated also got her killed but only because Theo's love for overs overruled his love for his sister.

Stories with copious amounts of love tend to have copious amounts of tragedy too. Its the best and the worst.
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>>140745382
The two happiest characters in SM are usually Axmann and Schmidt. Axmann's lack of empathy was what allowed him to outwit Jurgen in the end and manipulate the majority of the cast.
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>>140745487
Axmann is happy in the way a mindbroken girl is happy though.
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>>140745382
At the same time, Iris never really romantically loved Theo, so I'd say SM subverts the true love theme found in the rest of the series.
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>>140745487
So you're saying being a psychopath is the right way to live?
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>>140745523
I wish I was Axmann.
>mind-breaking and terrorizing cute girls
Nigga was living the dream.
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>>140745577
>not wanting to be mindbroken
Remember where you are. This is /a/ - sluts and lolis
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>>140745533
I wouldn't say that alone subverts the whole message, but it does provide a contrary point. But since we already know how everything eventually ends anyway and that in the big scheme what happens to these characters is pretty much pointless you might as well be right. Fuck Theo.
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>>140745536
I'm not saying it, I'm saying that thematically, true love is not good in SM. The deeper the love (Lise, Beatrix) the more it fucks you up. The best love is not founded on true love, but in the less idealized, normal type of love. The less passionate type where you don't devote yourself to the other person completely. Love that is more moderated, and something that you can move on from in a couple of weeks if your partner decides to die or divorce you. Love like Gretel and Martin, for instances, that's not pure passion.
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>>140745732
>Schwarzesmarken: Moderation in all things

yeah I could see that.
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>>140742811

I did some stuff last thread. It's OK I guess. I also added a non sequitur story right before the mattress saga on the outline about after Bea gets stabbed. At some point I'll need to sort the stories by continuity.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uMN28GtT68ZPP2gS2Tq5Ipm4yw_odDBLpS3qM_camg/edit?usp=docslist_api
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>>140745989
I want to share an umbrella with Lise during a strong rain
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>>140746072
>>140745989
I want to make Lise the happy bride she always dreamed of being.
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>>140746072
i will stole her umbrella and then touch her wet butt!
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>>140746259
What, this butt?
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>>140746259
I want to make her wet
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>>140743919
But isn't she really pro-American?

She utterly hates communism, and any compromise with them. If Germany is to reunify, it is not through political compromise, but ruthless annexation by Bonn. And only then, if Germany is watched by those who believe in freedom.
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>>140746385
Dye you're hair red and start tching like an edgy ass. She'll be humping your leg in no time.
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>>140745799
Hiroki's favorite heroine by far is Irisdina, and she's known as being a mostly unemotional ice-queen, so I think you might be on to something. I think Hiroki purposely crafted SM's romantic arcs to counter the other ML "main pairings" such as Hibiki/Yuzu, Takeru/Sumika, or TOPGUN/Cryska. Unlike other stories, when Beatrix says that she loves Jurgen with her life and can't live without him, it's portrayed as extremely negative compared to Iris who does her best not to get romantically involved with anyone. Notice how two of SM's most evil characters are acting out of love, compared to the heroes who mostly act out of logic or emotions other than love? Theo himself is portrayed negatively for falling in love. His pursuit of Iris would lead him down a path that would end with him executing prisoners and wounded enemies. Again, contrast it against Iris, who does not pursue romance and manages to stay moral and keep to the path. The style of Sumika/Cryska/Yuzu "true love" leads people astray and pushes them towards evil according to SM. It's rather fitting indeed that Schwarzesmarken dropped the Muv-Luv part of it's title.
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>>140746431

>"For me, East Germany is a cage even bigger than the Brehme family. I'm not going to be at the mercy of my father nor will I become a tool for East Germany. If my father and the state want to treat me like a tool, then I'll make use of them as well."


>"Your decision may not have been the "good" choice, but it was the correct choice. History progresses on the sacrifices of people, does it not?"

On a personal level, she hates authoritarianism, but sees it as the best means of combating the BETA. Like she says in the second quote, sometimes you can't do what you want to do, the "good" or moral choice, but what you have to do, the "correct" choice.
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>>140746445
>It's rather fitting indeed that Schwarzesmarken dropped the Muv-Luv part of it's title.

Well, it is rather unfitting to actually put it with a word that was supposed to mean'"Beyond any salvation''

It rather makes it even more ironic that it already is
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>>140746445
Makes sense to me. But it makes the sting all the worse. If thats the point SM is trying to make to counterpoint the rest of the series then so be it, because its true in certain cases. Specifically the cases it itself creates. But I will always believe true love is a noble cause to fight for. I can't do ice-queen. Life's not worth living without passion.
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>>140738511
I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying Schwarzesmarken and I regret not watching it while it was airing. I don't remember it being mentioned often outside of its contained threads though. Did /a/ not think it was good?
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>>140746431
>Gilgamesh
Gilgamesh would've blown the BETA back into orbit and shoved GoB up Superior's ass though, nobody but him gets to fuck with humanity as a whole.
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>>140746445
Muv-Luv's 'true love' is the idealized type of love though, which is known less flatteringly as 'madness'.
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>>140746913
Nobody thought it was good. It's a shite adaption of an otherwise decent story.
Also welcome aboard, prepare for suffering
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>>140746937
Gilgamesh would have used Ea and all the hives are now gone.

Ramesses would be a better BETA exterminator since he has limitless invincible armies and a giant spaceship that fires giant lasers and arcs laser beams.
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>>140747075
>Gilgamesh would have used Ea
>Gilgamesh
>Ea
>Ever
No.
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>>140747075
Gilgamesh probably has a weapon specifically for beating zerg rushes by giant aliens with laser support.
Fuck he can probably drag a korean gamer out of the gate or some shit and summon swarms of whatever the best unit in SC2 is.
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>>140746969
>which is known less flatteringly as 'madness'.
>implying restarting the world when your love one dies or choose someone else is ''madness'' and not pure rue love.
please
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>>140747335
The point is that they're one and the same. True love is just a name for an extreme obsession towards a person, just in a positive manner. Hatred is the opposite. That's why the opposite of both love and hate is indifference, because you cannot be obsessed over someone you give zero shits about.
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>>140747047
Thanks and it's my first exposure to the franchise too. Are all the stories/spin-offs in muv luv like this where the main focus is on humans and political stuff rather than actiony tactical stuff? Because I love that kind of shit.
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>>140747406
Eh. I can't tell you anything about similarities and differences without spoilers. Go finish and we'll talk. Enjoy and remember to cry.
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>>140747406
Who do you think is best girl so far
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>>140747406
>Are all the stories/spin-offs in muv luv like this where the main focus is on humans and political stuff rather than actiony tactical stuff?
some off,

the day after spin off is pretty much focus on how the survivors had to go all political propaganda and hero admiring due to the world being more crappier while dealing with political positions , problems about food and using nukes as a bargaining chip and things like that while some are even more about productions of TSF
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>>140746594
But is it really lying? ML was always about the fight, the hope for a better tomorrow I believed. And what you're willing to pay to achieve that? It really is the expression of pure love - What would you do, what hell and suffering would you go through, to keep that hope, that feeling alive?
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>>140748039
>It really is the expression of pure love - What would you do, what hell and suffering would you go through, to keep that hope, that feeling alive?
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Was it ever explained how exactly the whole 'Takeru gets written out of history' thing works?

For instance, who's credited with creating the XM3? Did all official documents about him just disappear? Did the Susanoo IV's blueprints get changed to having just one seat instead of two?
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>>140746594
It says 'save in the name of true love', not 'salvation for your true love'.
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>>140748212
Nope, it seems the XM3 development was made part of the alternative IV but all the documents and even data seems to have vanish

But though one thing is that If Takeru vanish from existence then woulldn't the data from the XM3 which was based on his log controls would disappear too?

It's a pretty big plot hole unless they are planning something
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>>140748212
I've heard around here, that he just disappeared, and that was it. Then the UN got suspiscious about how there seemed to be a extra member of A01, one extra TSF requisitioned, etc. And then Yuuko got in deep shit, because it all lead back to her.
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>>140748212
He just disappeared like that and everyone who knew him except yuuko and kasumi got their memories erased.

Though hence when Yuuko is interrogated by the events that she would just always repeat that a bratty hero save them.

But seriously it doesn't explain anything if he just got erased along with his datas
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I fuggin hate dead hour.
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>>140748193
Why the long face? You know it to be true.

Sometimes we don't give others enough credit for the strength that the desire to save in the name of true love entails.

>>140746755
t. Brujah

Naw really, you're right tho.
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>>140749603
>Why the long face? You know it to be true.
That wasn't the point of his pic obviously
He posted the girl who absolutely exemplified your statement and got nothing at all back
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So about that steam release for the trilogy...is it out?
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>>140745989

It's a week or so after Oktoberfest. Everything went off without a hitch, because most of the people that have opinions about things don't remember and most of the people that remember don't have any opinions. OR rather, they don't share any strong opinions in order to avoid self incrimination. Lise, of course, remembers the whole thing, because she doesn't black out no matter how drunk she gets, a useful trait for a spy, but one that has the potential to utterly torment her. However, she seems pretty happy, all things considered. It's just, sometimes when she sees her friends for the first time after the event, she can't help but suppress a giggle. Right now, she's teasing Beatrix.

"So, Beatrix, which of the Bernhards is a better kisser?"

Beatrix looks haughty. "Lise, you know I spent the whole night with Jurgen."

"Did you?"

Lise knows for a fact that You, Jurgen, Walther, Marco, Mr. Hohenstein and Walther's boss had spent the better part of the night having a male bonding experience, that is, drinking heavily, telling dirty jokes, and playing with fire. Lise had been dozing in the Camry with a window open for ventilation. Beatrix was pressed against the car, making out with someone who was venting an incredible amount of sexual frustration.

"Say, Beatrix... you didn't happen to grab Jurgen's crotch, did you?"

Beatrix sets down her coffee, eyes widening.

"And Jurgen's voice wasn't any higher than usual?"

The red eyed girl takes a deep breath through her nose as the memories of the night begin to piece themselves back together.

"And his hair... wasn't it longer than normal? His lips fuller? So... Which of the Bernhards is a better kisser?"

Beatrix's nostrils flare for a moment as the anger wells up inside her but she blinks, and the anger sinks down again, pointed at herself. She gives Lise a pleading look.

"Please, please, please, don't tell Jurgen. Please."

Lise smiles gently.

"Don't worry. Iris doesn't remember. Pretend I made it all up"
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>>140738780
Always hated the knees and dick.
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>>140749791
Now this needs to be animated.
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>>140749791
A teasing Lise is a happy Lise.
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>>140749769

Extra and Unlimited comes out in summer
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>>140749912

Did they cancel the BETA?
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>>140749965
I don't think so. On the website it says "BETA status: Not yet ready!" so I guess they're working on it. But it was supposed to be out early this month, so who knows
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>>140742918
Welcome to Europe
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Reminder that in this weeks stream they are gonna talk about strike frontier and if they actually does then we might actually got something to look forward to!
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>>140749791

"Hey, Beatrix."

The Ruby Eyed girl gives you a strange look. She had forgotten you were in the room. You point the palms of her hands towards her to stop whatever preemptive strike she's cooking up to make sure you never tell anyone about what just happened.

"Wait, wait, wait. I have a video to show you."

She stands up out of her seat, almost ready ready to fight you.

"No, it's nothing to do with that night, check this out."

You pull out a set of 3D goggles, really just your phone in an adapter. Beatrix is pretty suspicious of you right now, but reluctantly agrees, slipping on a pair of headphones as well.

"What is this? I don't get it... it's just a video of Lise running... You probably just wanted to watch her ass when she go-- AH HA HA HA HA HOLY SHIT!"

Beatrix bursts out laughing, then flinches hard into her seat when you get to the part where you run into a tree. Yes, you had been filming the descent on the trail run. Lise points an accusing finger at you.

"You told me you deleted that, you asshole!"

"I wasn't lying. I deleted it off the SD card in the camera. I just, you know, put it on the cloud first. You never asked if it was on the cloud."

Beatrix turns to Lise, "You should put that on that website. I bet that will be your number one most popular video.

"I can't, those weirdos don't know I have a boyfriend."

"Just tell them he's just the photographer. It's a lame excuse but they'll buy it."

"Fine."

She reluctantly decides to upload the video to her site. Only week later, Beatrix's suspicions are confirmed as it becomes the most viewed video she's ever made. Lise scrolls through the comments and statistics. The success only partially offsets the embarrassment, and not enough to make a difference.

"God. Fucking. Dammit."
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>>140750169
I looked at the website for it, and why do they keep spelling Takemikazuchi like this?
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Can anyone link the Schwarzesmarken web-browser game?
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>>140750256
http://kiminozo-radio.jp/kaiki/

next stage when
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>>140750276
Thanks.
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>>140750243
The zu in that word takes the zu from the "d" column. That is to say, you know how to go from the "T" sound you add the little tenten? You add those to tsu (which is technically tu) and you get zu (which is technically du).

Similar reasons you might see Sho as Syo.
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>>140746913
It`s a shit adaptation of a story written by a hack.
But bullying delusional beatofags is funny.
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>>140749791
Canon Lise might as well be bi nothing wrong with making Beatrix that too.
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>>140750387

it's honestly pretty funny how hard they take the bait. It's like a gun control thread on /k/, they just can't help themselves.

I bet all the beatohaters are really just Beatrix herself posting, so she can read all the nice things people have to say about her in reply.
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>>140750387
>>140750452
>when the bait so obvious you start doubting if it's bait
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>>140750431

yes but married people are generally expected to not make out with their spouse's siblings, regardless of gender.
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>>140750222

Why would anon rat out his lover?
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>>140750488
America Land of the Free etc etc
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>>140750488
Yeah but she can still be bi.
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I don't remember this happening in Schwarzesmarken and Total Eclipse. Did I miss it?
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>>140750491
Have you never had a close relationship with someone? You start fucking with them for kicks.
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>>140750549
Of course not, I don't like being near people.
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>>140750563
>he doesn't have an oneechan to /u/ with
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>TSF Forefront release never

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy0q4WTBfjc

Kill me, senpai
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>>140750660
What happen to that?

i would pay bucks for these shit to be release
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>>140750169
stop giving me hopes that you intend to crush you lying faggot
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>>140750464
>bait

Treat your paranoia already.
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Ok quick question before I go to sleep:

Should Theo arrive on the mattress first, or should Lise get hitched?
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>>140750740
>one of the posts literally calls it bait and uses the baiting beato picture
>nah you're just paranoid
I'm still falling for it ain't I, brb
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>>140750764
I think you may be beyond repair.
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>>140750547
>Did I miss it?
Yes, that's how the HUD works
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>>140750755
Fuck both Theo and Lise.

Axmann should respawn with a boombox.
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>>140750755
Whatever you think is more interesting.
Theo arriving sounds like final boss material, but Lise getting hitched sounds like epilogue material, so I have no idea.
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>>140750805
Fuck off axmannfag
>>140750755
Bring Theo back after the fact if you want him to be the punished version, either way if he's the Master.
Punished version will be whining during the leadup if he's there for it, better to see it's already too late than for him to think he has a forlorn hope
The Master version doesn't really matter when he shows up.
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>>140750547
They don't usually show it but Iris had a red iris in the first shot.
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>>140750790
> that's how the HUD works


Yeah, but have they ever showed it?
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>>140750805
Axmann will have his boombox. Even if he doesn't, just imagine he does!

>>140750755
Lise get hitched.

I thought you said you weren't gonna bring Theo over because that would screw with the whole point of the story?

Also, where does that leave Punished Theo anon, since he's working off your story it seems.
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>>140751169
You can see it here. I don't think they actually explained it though
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>>140751240
Cool, I totally missed it.
Thanks.
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What the fuck is this fanfic garbage in these threads?
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>>140751305
Do you not like it?
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>>140751305
Did you just wake up from hibernation or something?
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>>140751772
Gretel please go
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>>140751811
No
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>>140751811
She can stay, she can fetch your newspaper.
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>>140751821
Your ability to lead your troops, unite them, and your piloting skills are highly questionable.

And I dont like your glasses.
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>>140751879
Ivan stop shitposting
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>>140751892
I agree with the glasses part.
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>>140751879
>>140751912
>not liking glasses
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>>140751938
I wear glasses and I don't like them.
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>>140750431
Lise is bi?
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>>140751938
>Implying glasses are good.
It is horrible. I wish my eyes remained good.
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>>140751963
>>140751988
Don't project your frustrations on Gretel
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>>140751973
She slept with a girl and liked it.
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>>140752007
>Don't project your frustrations on Gretel
You cant stop me
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>>140752007
I'm not, I'm projecting my frustration on the piece of eye-wear she has on her face.
Gretel is lovely outside of that.
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>>140752021
ok, keep going m8
>>140752026
She will not stop wearing it and you wont either unless you case can be fixed by surgery
can it?
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>>140752057
>She will not stop wearing it
she did anyone and she had no major problems.
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>>140752057
It's only -2.0 diopters, I can easily get it surgically fixed.
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>>140752138
>she did anyone
anon*
Oh god im not feeling that well.
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Reminder that MLU and MLA were caused by Dimension-fucking Bombs, Intense Orgasms, and Childhood friends.
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>>140752221
and obsessive love

dont forget that part
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>>140752393
already included bro, it's in the "Intense Orgasms" part
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>>140752414
Oh and don't forget the videogames

fucking videogames man

makes you save the world
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>>140752434
I'm PRETTY sure videogames did not whatsoever contributing to raping Takeru's mind into the BETA-filled 30-Mohs scale vault of a mind he has acquired.
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>>140741989
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>>140750547
Whenever you see them with red eyes, that's the retinal projectors at work.

It's actually pretty neat, SM seems to show an older type of retinal projector that just shows a TV image of your outer cameras on you - you can see it especially when the Stasi suddenly come for them and Katia jumps in Theo's TSF.

In TE, it seems that there's more some kind of advanced total situational awareness, all axis camera coverage, kind of like what they are intending eventually with the F-35. It's like in episode 3 I think, where Yuuya first gets in his F-15. It's weird, from the bootup sequence, it seems its not so much retinal projection as literally connecting to the brain.

That's what those triangular things are on fortified suits.
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Welp I am replaying the VNs anons.

What route do I take first?
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>>140752518
Hey at least it taught him to do some flips using vidya knowledge
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>>140752731
Cui looks like a man in this shot.
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>>140752778
obviously the one with eurobeats and INVISIBLE limo drived by the thoery of high speed transportation
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>>140752010
Wew. At who did she said that? Not Theo I suppose since he is a christfag.
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>>140752838
Meiya route coming up, will post my progress as I go along (not spamming).
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>>140752886
If only she knew.....
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>>140752886
He does weird thing.
I prefered forcing grasshoppers to eat ants or roasting the formers in order to see how long they last and watch them clinging to their life as it was coming closer and closer to its end.
Am I weird to?
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>>140753000
>pic related?
I would just watch ants and have them run around my hand. I would also be gentle about it, never killed them (still don't).
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>>140752838
>>140752886
Best route and best girl, I approve.
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>>140753131
Best bro'
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>>140752838
This.

Literally the best route
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>>140752886
takeru is a weirdo

Who does that shit?
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Ah yes, the good old days of childhood and bliss.
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here we go boys!
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>>140753273
>>140753332
be sure to look for those creepy foreshadowing man
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>>140753332
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>>140753365
You betcha!
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>>140753481
>>140753365
speaking of which
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>>140753481
>All those Mabu-Rabu VN shortcuts
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>>140753502
Does she imply that she would be up for three some?

>>140753523
NO! my power level is visible!
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>>140753638
Takeru didn't ask
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>>140753638
HA! totally forgot that Takeru suggested Meiya is a ghost. God I am so glad this was my first ever VN.
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>>140753704
Funny because she turn into one after alternative
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>>140752138
>>140752187
Are you drunk Ivan?
Sill, she looks cute as fuck with glasses
>>140752167
Good
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>>140753704
how many times has Takeru hit Sumika in VNs, does anyone know?
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>>140753745
He is a pretty violent kind isn't he?
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>>140753734
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>>140753794
Oh boy here we go.
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>>140753835
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>>140753835
spooky
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>>140753824
>>140753848
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>>140753824
Ghost blowjob when
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>>140753824
Fuck off TOPGUN you're the least interesting protagonist.
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>>140753835
Oh my...
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>>140753835
I-I don't get it
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>>140753886
>implying he wont star in an another VN as a protagonist for the events cover everything after ouka
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>>140754010
please no
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>>140753835
Even in extra she has dimension shattering superpowers

>>140753979
Remember the rabbit doll he made in Alternative? (some one post pic if you have it)
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>>140753979
Don't think about it too much, it was some gift IIRC.
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>>140754045
Fist glimpse at how physically weak he is in the beginning.
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>>140754099
I don't understand, the solar plexus is a weak point of the human body no??? So I don't get it.
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>>140754099
Just a warning I will play until the Meiya introduction and a bit after, for this thread. Will continue other threads.

>>140754160
Yeah, its my mistake didn't use the correct screen shot. He then mentions how climbing the hill killed him and his knees where all wobbly. Also pic related.

Point is throughout the VN it is shown that is physical unfit which makes his adventures later and subsequent physical growth that much more impactful.
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>>140754268
Class-rep!
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>>140754328
fuck! forgot the image
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>>140754268
not just fit, he was fucking buff as fuck and massive by the time he reach alternative
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>>140754268
She looks a lot like this brain...
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>>140750755
Arrive first.

Ideally it would be better for those two to sort out their issues first, along with Theo coming to terms that his imouto is marrying another guy, so that the wedding can really have this happily ever after feeling to it.

That's my take at least.

Don't end this yet anon; these stories make my days worthwhile.
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>>140754377
i mean look this nigga was skinny as fuck and he turn like that
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>>140754344
There is an alternative universe where Class-rep take Takeru on his offer and wakes him up every morning instead of Suminka.

>>140754377
>>140754442
Yeah, pretty much.

>>140754395
BATEEEERS!
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>>140754513
dis nigga, is mah nigga. But I want Meiya to do it.
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>>140754513
>hu hu hu!

what
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>>140754513
>There is an alternative universe where Class-rep take Takeru on his offer and wakes him up every morning instead of Sumika.
same can be said to every other universe out there
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>>140754377
Other people seem to think he's buff...
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>>140754603
Best husbandos
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>>140754557
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>>140754684
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>>140754731
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>>140754809
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She really can't hit a target that close?
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>>140754557
never did takeru know that after passing through hell that he would be granted that.
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>>140754731
>: also I changed my mind,
I understand that you want to avoid the lacross part so much but come the fuck on man
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>>140754837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j3_iPskjxk

>>140754892
muh!

>>140754925
I actually like the lacrosse arc, thats not the reason I am doing it. I never played that route
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>>140754845
recoil is not your friend when your not use to them
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Everyone's alive!

for now...
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>>140754990
Such sweetness.

the marimo ending isn't a bad ending in my opinion,, fuck age
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>>140755015
Enjoy it while it last
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>>140754990

>>140755015
>>140755090
Pls, guys. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.
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>>140755140
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>>140755140
This is muv luv, despair is assured
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>>140755140
Teaches the same way in whatever universe she's in.
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>>140755176

>>140755280
we GTO (GTM) now
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>>140755313
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>>140755357
PANIC
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>>140755357
best girl is here
>>
It really hurts, to read the VNs again.

>>140750755
Lise get hitched first. Though would also prefer if Theo doesn't show.
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>>140755402
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>>140755402
It's time
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>>140755402

>>140755432
>>140755439
Kanshao
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>>140755476
what a coincidence!
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>>140755510
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What is Sensei thinking about?
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>>140755563
Staring contest
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>>140755402
>noble confidant has arrived
nigga please

dont do this shit to me
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>>140755563
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>>140755679
AW YEAH
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>>140755624
>when you hack and distribute her stasi files
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>>140755679

>>140755657
bruh I jest, I jest. I am on your side.
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>>140755767
It is a fucking travesty that she never won. then again no one else did either, in fact everyone lost
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Where is the Deutschland 86 anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QFSpS8Kx6c
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>>140755854
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>>140755894
2cute4me
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>>140755894
To be continued.
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>>140755978
bitch who told you to stop, keep going.
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>>140756064
no can do, tune in later.
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>>140755476
that reminds me that as the time she spends with takeru and friends her voice that was very iinocent slowly turn deep
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>>140755854
i like to pretend that in another universe she won

and also like to think that she ended not getting the NOBLE CONFANT TREATMENT
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>>140756214
No need to pretend anon, it did happen.
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>>140755035
Marimo-chan!
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>>140756298
that pic had me mix feelings


also i hope TDA ends with at least with a meiya x takeru end even if they die together..
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>>140756298
fug you
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>>140751305

Delusional Waifufags, mostly.

One guy is writing something involving Axmann in his quest to Make American Great Again; that's actually pretty good.
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>>140756298
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>>140749791
I don't think Jurgen really would've minded that much tobehonest.
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>>140752021

Hey, Ivan. I think the Chinese took that 'Motor Transport' Emblem a bit too seriously...
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>>140754044

Please YES!
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>>140756298
>mfw finishing unlimited and got sad at the part
>mfw reading the manga fuck me up even more because of that ruin gekishin
fuck you
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>>140756735

Don't worry, the only way that could have ACTUALLY happened was if the colony ships had FTL drive and the story planed superluminal relatively straight; that FTL == time travel.

Otherwise the daughter wouldn't have had time to grow up before the Gekishit got rekt.
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>>140756298
:_;
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China and the Soviet Union
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>>140757235
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>>140757235
They look like Raptor clones to me.
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>>140756857
thats not comfroting at all
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>>140757280
most gen 3's look alike, Takemikazuchi are only distinctive gen 3 TSF's
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>>140757851
The Berkut and Shiranui had their own unique shapes as well.
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>>140750755
Its ending soon? Just as when I got hyped about drawing her in that pink dirndl. Dunno how long this one is going to take me.

Theo coming first will probably create more drama for you to write about, so I'll go with that.
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So, is it ok to like Axmann more than Teo?
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>>140758038
Like I said anon, "most" gen 3's
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>>140750755
I think that Theo should appear first so that there is absolutely no regrets when Lise gets hitched with anon.
I am looking fotward what you have in store for Theo, he needs healing too.
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>>140758352
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>>140758352
Axmann is generally more competent of a character than Theo and messes shit up less, but he's probably one of the few unambiguously evil characters in the show who sees misery as an endgoal.
>>140758452
What about that post is bait?
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>>140756444
alternative 2 is after seven years of alternative , it has been announced as the daughter of Takeru and Meiya the advent

I expect that the daughter will come from TDA universe
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>>140758936
And I like this about him.
He's just the bad guy. Nothing more,nothing less.
While Theo pretends to be the good guy,despite actually being an asshole
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>>140759191
From the posts in these threads, very close to nobody is a fan of Theo. Axmann get a smattering of fans for his smooth demeanor and his general forthrightness about being a fucking asshole and the antagonist, stepping up to your face and asking 'are you gonna be the one to do something about it?'.
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>>140759191
Being tortured and having his family killed and living in constant fear in a morally degenerate state change the general mindset of people.
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>>140759040
>alternative 2 is after seven years of alternative , it has been announced as the daughter of Takeru and Meiya the advent
dead people cant breed
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>>140759040
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>>140753835
I'm halfway through Unlimited and I don't get it.
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>>140754925
>lacross part
Jesus, such boring part.
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>>140758352
Theo comes off as someone who's searching for a purpose in life, so he tends to fanatically latch onto other people and internalize their motives without really understanding what they're fighting for. Because of this, he has zero personal initiative and needs Katia, Iris, or Suzy to tell him what to do. He's a pawn, and no one likes that very much in their heroes. He also willfully blinds himself to situations, which makes him look either stupid or unsympathetic to the audience. He doesn't bother understanding either his enemies or his allies. Worse, he never bothers confronting Lise about her past or even making the attempt to help her when she needed him the most (he would've been infinitely more sympathetic had he made the outreach to Lise before trying to kill her).

Aside from that, executing the second and third most popular characters isn't going to earn him any brownie points among fans.
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>>140759829
Before anyone says anything, I think Theo is an excellent character, way better than Yuuya or Jurgen even. But just because he's a good character doesn't mean that I wouldn't want to kick his douchebag ass. Good character ≠ Likable character (something a lot of people seem to confuse).
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>>140741078
>Everyone

Not Theo.
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>>140759999
Heavenly quads confirm
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Which Muv Luv manga are a must read?
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>>140760096
unlimited
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>fucking Eva 01 out of nowhere
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>>140759999
Those quads.

>>140760096
The Alternative manga is nice, and is filled with very memorable lines, but the VN is always preferable.
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What the fuck.
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>>140760417
ManaMana is based, isn't she?
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>>140760625
Was she a Virgin?
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>>140760853
Rule of every VN: she's not a mother, she's a virgin
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>>140760625
This is from Supplement, right? Which means it will never be translated, right?
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>>140760928
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>>140761008
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>>140761008
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>>140761076
>>140761008
>>140761171

>what is adoption
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>>140760928
But Marimo wasn't a Virgin!
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>>140761258
A non-virgin before MC? In my hentai-VN? Poppycock!
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>>140761076
>>140761171
>>140761185
She's talking about her anal virginity
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>>140761309
Death by Snu-Snu follows
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>>140761469
Worth it
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>>140758097
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>>140759999
Can't argue with that Fino, I guess I'm lame.

>>140760928
Then what the hell is Lise
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>>140758097

I don't know, but it helps to know which way it's going. It needs to end eventually, probably within 2 weeks. At that point it will be a novel. An entire novel written in <2000 character posts to 4chan.

Also I saw your Machi from Kuma Miko on pixiv. I'm glad you like her. She's a reason image gold mine.
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>>140761975
Doesn't count. Not porn
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>>140762035
fug
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>>140761975

Best girl
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>>140762035
>It needs to end
Why

>>140762055
It doesn't count because SM VN isn't porn so the rule doesn't apply, or it doesn't count because we didn't get to see it
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>>140761008
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>>140762222
QUADS
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>>140760928
We know that Iris, Katia, and Theo are all definitely virgins.

Beatrix, Annete, and Gretel are probably virgins too.

Pham, Inghilde, and Kirke probably aren't.

Sylwia, Lise, and Walter definitely aren't.
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>>140762267
Because the much needed closure was reached
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>>140758352
Ax is simply more entertaining, Theo is pretty dull.
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>>140762295
>Pham
>Kirke

proofs?
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>>140762477
You know Kirke is rocking Major Ass-slapper's world.
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>>140762518
But does she gets more than ass slaping?
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>>140762313

Basically. Lise is basically healed, and although I never wrote it as a complete unit, there's very few places I can take the story except the end. There will still be tangential misadventures because those are usually more fun.
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>>140741170
She's dead theo
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>>140762627
Accolades to you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfZzkhfz89c
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>>140759829
>Aside from that, executing the second and third most popular characters isn't going to earn him any brownie points among fans.

Waifufags are retarded. It's not like Lise and Beatrix deserved mercy.
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>>140762863
t.Suzy
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>>140757235
That's neat, but when we will get the Albatross?

F-5 is known for years, but they literally wasted the opportunity to show the Pact counterpart while the Schwarzesmarken is getting the spotlight.
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>>140762895
Why? You know there really isn't any ambiguity. Lise and Beatrix were working for the bad guys and supporting a plan that would've killed millions for no discernible gain.
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>>140763145
Yes there was. The author confirmed that Beatrix plan wasn't wrong, and neither right (just like Iris/Katia plans) just different
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>>140763237
I think that's stupid considering 90-95% of Europeans made it out alright in the end.
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>>140763308
>1 billon people left on earth by 2001
>population of Europe was about 693 millons by the 80's
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>>140763237
What was her plan again? Aside from getting more power.
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>>140763308
Here's a poll from the Japs (who actually have direct access to the source material) on whether they think Beatrix was correct or not. Notice how she's winning? Maybe it's you who has the wrong impressions or assumptions.
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>>140763467
Crash the DDR, with no survivors
A quick guide is here >>140743919
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>>140763467
Getting more power, reestablishing fascism, becoming the dictator of the DDR, and making it an even more authoritarian hellhole.
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>>140763480
How can you trust waifufags? They'll support anything their waifu would have done.
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>>140763601
I thought they weren't big on waifuing Beatrix.
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>>140763639
You thought very wrong
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>>140763467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhPVMQz1Acw
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>>140763601
Beatrix ain't my waifu but I support part of her plan, specially the part of not runing like a bitch to the West
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>>140763728
Beatrix IS my waifu, and I think her plan is nuts.
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Oh, look, we're having this discussion again. I'm just going to pretend it's a gun control thread on /k/.

what part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do you not understand? Studies show that in statistically simpilar populations, concealed carry significantly reduces the rates of violent crime, expecially when it is the women who are known to be possibly be armed. further more, because it's concealed carry, unlike open carry the benefits extend to everybody living in the area, because criminals don't know who is armed and who isn't.

something something it's all in that Harvard Law Review article by Kates and Mauser.
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>>140763837
Morality arguments are just waifu wars by proxy. The majority of Beatrix/Lisefags are probably going to support that Beatrix's plan wasn't totally wrong and that there is moral ambiguity between the different factions, while Katia/Irisfags will state the opposite and that history vindicated Katia's plan.
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>>140764000
This. We are going to enter the fifth month of these argument, with no end and no new arguments in sight. And it was set in stone the moment they showed Beatrix enjoying the excution in episode one. In the end it even boils down on wheter it was worth the effort to hold the Oder-Neisse line or not.
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>>140763728
What part do you support, power grab?
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>>140764317
Remove rebels and holding the line
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>>140764160
Why did they make her and Lise enjoy being evil so much? It really destroys any sympathy we should feel for them and makes all their motivations feel hollow or inconsistent. Do they want us to feel bad when they die, or do they want us to get justiceboners, because they can't have both.
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>>140764407
Well, that's not her plan, that's general Stasi plan of action.
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>>140764482
because muh good vs evil

Bravo Watanabe
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>>140764484
nothing wrong with that
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>>140764482
I think the anime made clear that Beatrix was supposed to be the most hated character in SM and you should feel good about seeing her die. Even Axmann and his blonde bishie comes off as more sympathetic than her.

I don't know what they were thinking about Lise though. Her character was all over the place. Episode 08 builds her up as ridiculously evil, then episode 09 tries to give us a tearjerker death. It makes no sense.
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>>140764484
Nah, Schmidts plan to nuke everything and save his own Ass, and Axtmann was planing to bail if his survival wasn't garanteed.
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When I finished Edge of Tomorrow, I expected Asu he no Houkou to play as the credits song.
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>>140764482
The number of mixed signals they send, especially for Lise, is ridiculous. It was poorly made, end of story. Thats whats so frustrating about it. We can sort of see what they were trying to do but it just didn't work.
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>>140764482
>>140764719
I learnt that some people cant be saved.

Theo did the right thing.
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>>140764577
Beatrix and Lise are fucking main heroines though. It's so retarded that the anime made both more cruel then anyone else. They're so evil that both even get off on the deaths of their compatriots, even though it directly hurts there efforts. Even Axmann isn't that evil.
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And because they fucked up it caused things like >>140764809
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>>140764976
They'll get their chance on Martyrs
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>>140764976
>Lise
>main heroine

Ah, sweet lisefag delusion, what would I do without you.
Theo is your MC. That`s it.

Beato is a literal scarecrow, and whore of Berlin is not much better. Iris is not even present for most of the time.
Fucking Axmann has more right to be a main character.
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>>140765051
Theo did the right thing.

She was a walking corpse. With the wounds she had then it would be impossible to save her.
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>>140750222

You wake up one morning and feel an extra person in the bed. You look over. It's happening. The interdimensional mattress finally brought you the person you had been worrying about the entire time. He's just lying there, sound asleep, on the other side of Lise. He rolls over, and wraps his hands around the sleeping girl. You blow in her ear to wake her up, and she manages to wriggle out of his arms, ending up on the floor at the foot of the bed.

"Who is it?"

"Worst case scenario."

She looks at the man sleeping alone in the bed, and turns to you.

"I can't do this. I'm not strong enough to handle doing something like this."

"Neither am I. Lets just take him for a ride."

You take a deep breath, then grab the duck tape out from under the bed. Lise pins the man down, and you slap the tail of the tape on his head, by the temple, then start spinning the tape around his crown, so that his eyes are totally covered. Next, you tape his hands together , pushing up the sleeves of his jacket so that the tape doesn't ruin the cuffs. Lastly, you tape his ankles together. He starts shouting in protest, and you pull a sock off his foot and stuff it in his mouth, then press the muzzle of your (or rather, Axmann's) Makarov into his forehead and tell him to shut the fuck up. Lise is rifling through his suit case. She finds his documents, his money, and his gun. She takes out the maps and the makarov and the cash, along with all the documents including his identity papers. She also takes out the solid gold fountain pen set, because fuck this asshole. Then she closes the suitcase.

"Wait, he may have holdout weapons."

She pats him down, and finds a Walther Model 9 tucked in his vest. Finally, you load the man into the back of the Camry, and spend the rest of the day driving, trying to get as far away from your quiet little town as you can. Around midnight, after 18 hours, you drop him off at an abandoned rest stop, and Erich Schmidt is out of your life again forever.
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>>140765051
>implying there is any other right end for the whore of Berlin
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>>140765051
I dunno, she knew that a line was crossed. Remember her last words to Theo
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>>140764482
>>140764577
>>140764719
They made the whole thing good vs. evil, and botched Lise and Beatrix. In Beatrixes case, it almost worked out. They removed every good trait she had, added sadism and evil. Problem is they retained that rump motivation, which opens many plotholes, and makes it impossible for the LN-fags to let go, and pissed them off considerably.
In Lises case, we get so many mixed signals it makes you think they had different people writing the script for different episodes. It went from Lise telling her Brother to kill her so that he could live, her breaking down during the torture of the 666th because she can't handle the guilt and her liking the 666th, with the exception of Iris, to well, you know how the Anime goes.

And thus we are left with all this neverending cycle of Beatrix and Lise did nothing wrong and Beatrix and Lise should be killed in the most painful manner possible.

Also, the Werewolves went from the second most elite TSF unit in the DDR to "mean girls the squadron".
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>>140765207
RIP Farka
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>>140765207
>mean girls the squadron
This
They were too cocky
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>>140765149
Well shit.

Did not expect THAT one.

We're not going to tell Beatrix? I'm sure she would have some choice words (or actions) about this.
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>>140765442
The only way to at least take a shot at defusing this shit is getting Iris there immidiately.
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>>140765086
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>>140765399
They were pretty cocky in the LNs, but could back up their swagger.
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>>140765623
I don`t even need to say anything.
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>>140765623
Is that from MAL?
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>>140765399

Well also, the whole "hey guys, this is an obvious trap"
"Your opinion is worthless."
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>>140765767
>look at me Lise
>I'm the captain now
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>>140765086
To be objectively fair, she probably had more screentime than Iris did, and her role in the story is important enough to rate falling under the category of a "main character".
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>>140741061
I swear to god, if I got a dollar for every time someone asked this particular question in these threads I would be rich enough to buy a penthouse ...

(One of the) most recent update(s) said that the initial release to Muv Luv on Steam was delayed till June. Beta keys would have been released by the end of this month but hey, let's not forget that âge is involved. They don't know about deadlines.
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<<It's them, the Demon Lords of East Germany>>
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>>140765767
This made no sense. Lise outranks a bunch of those girls, and should be the one bossing them around. The fact that she was given the 666th infiltration mission speaks of the trust Beatrix and the rest of the Werewolves have in her.
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Gretel is lying naked on the front porch next to me begging for headpats while I read Mein Kampf
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>>140765799
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>>140766479
>mein kampf
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>>140766479
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>>140766624

After getting about halfway through it I can confidently say that I am not a Nazi. I like due process and the rule of law too much. It's still a fascinating book. Since I am not a single round of .32acp this is the only way I have to get into Hitler's head.
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>>140766714
>nazism
>somehow excludes due process
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>>140766714
Top kek
I've never actually read it. And if I try to find it I might get in trouble. But I think it can be an interesting read.
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>>140766279
Well, the 666th (which includes her brother) escaped under her watch. She's probably under suspicion of treason (though Beato doesn't doubt her under the reasoning that Lise no longer has anywhere to go to).
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>>140765149
>>140765442

Now I'm worried he'll come back to cause trouble.

Unless the next installment has a news program runing a story on an unknown German man in a suit getting eaten by bears or something at that rest stop.
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>>140766834
>And if I try to find it I might get in trouble.

Why? Do you live in Germany? In fact, isn't it now legal to be able to read that over there?
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>>140766955
Germany is not the only country that prohibits Hitler`s book.
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>>140739299
Well I had all day to think of how I want to go with the RLF leader so now I just got home, I'm gonna get comfy and then start writing.
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>>140766938
>Lise and healanon kills axman
>next day there are 20 axmans on the mattress
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How are these threads still going so strong?
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>>140767032
Youpi!!! I am looking forward some Schwarzesmarken' 86.
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>>140767043
Fanfics mostly. Also including the original trilogy and TE brings in people.
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>>140767041
Nah, that`s too much even for Ax.
I`d prefer if they just saw him on TV, giving an interview as Trump campaign manager or something.
Better yet, don`t respawn him on the matress at all, go straight into TV. Who said matress is the only portal, after all?
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>>140766938
Probably won't. He's 18 hours away (which is preeety fucking far), has no resources, and most important of all, he has no idea that anyone else is present. He didn't get a chance to see anything, and all he heard was anon's voice (which is absolutely nothing to go on).

He's more likely to see Axmann on TV to be honest.
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>>140766988
Well, honestly, it's really not that much. Just rambling really. The only really relevant part is chapter 6 (concerning propaganda), which is read by every decent political operative, marketeer, etc.

Say what you will about Hitler, but he was a fucking master propagandist. Even Trump studies his stuff.
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>>140766955
CIS scum here.
Government (who mostly consists of narrow-minded soviet elites) tend to think that if I read it I go outside and start burning jews.
No one cares about the jews tho,but they don't like nazism, and anything related with nazism.
Hell,I remember then I was 12 I got encyclopedia about Wermacht. People were calling me nazi just for reading it.
Upvote and subscribe
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>>140767043
Muv-luv never dies
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>>140767136
But Axmann isn't even in the same universe as Healanon anymore, he got bumped to the next when Beatrix choked him out.
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>>140767249
It`s not like he was the first, or the brightest.
What everybody should read in marketing is Le Bon.

What he does offer though is a rationale for german people to see themselves as worthy of their land and customs. This stuff can easily be transplanted into any other national history, provided such history exists.
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>>140767276
>no one cares about the jews

That`s what Shlomo wants you to believe, anon.
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>>140767136

He better not come back. That's not healing.

Unless Beatrix comes back with his head in a bag or something.
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>>140767421
Sometimes you need a little bit of hurt for MAXIMUM __healing_.
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>>140767374
So BETA are connected to jews?
And Beatrix is reincarnation of Hitler?
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>>140767496
I'd say we've filled our quota of hurt already.
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>>140767499
Hitler would be downright horrified by Beato, anon. He did love his people.
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>>140767557
She also might have some Jewish blood in her.
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>>140767552
Why would she go that far??
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>>140765207
Werewolves, more like Whorewolves, amirite?
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>>140767557
>He did love his people.
Tell that to 6th army
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>>140767276

I like having a physical copy but if you really want to read it you can probably pirate a pdf and keep it on your phone. Rename the file something really boring and innocuous.
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>>140767557
Nah, Hitler went down as saying that the Germans deserved to be destroyed for failing as a race towards the end of the war. No surrender, just obliteration (rather similar to Beatrix in that respect, really).
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These threads are fucking terrible with this fanfic shit
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>>140767846
Ur mum was terrible
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>>140767846
I request you explain why in more detail.
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>>140767620

So did Reinhard Heydrich but they suppressed that information.

> the guy who devised the final solution was a Jewish octaroon
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I have a question regarding Nippon's political system. Has their capital been moved to Tokyo or the Diet's in Kyoto? Did they even rebuild the city after the 1998 invasion?
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>>140767658

Love
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>>140738511
Filthy secondary here, just read the timeline. Have they tried bio weapons? Why can't they into adaptation, like it's more or less 60 years already, and the threat to their air assets is still a hairy dick with eyes and chicken legs that shoots out lasers. Other than that, there's no other threat to air power. It seems that the BETA's superiority mostly hinges on these laser cunt, why don't they focus on weapons that can combat them?
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>>140768451
That's what TSFs are.
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>>140765623
>>140765703
Yes, and I just learned a name of Axmann's fuccboi thanks to it. I guess even mal can be useful.
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>>140765767
I want to fuck the bitch out of that Farka.
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>>140768247
If you and Lise were gonna be tortured and killed anyway, would you smash a baby, soon to be executed regardless, with a rock if it meant she could go free?
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>>140769602
I'd close my eyes as I did it.
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>>140769602
Is that a serious question?

Obviously.
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>>140767846
Look at this newfag who wasn't around for threads in 2014 and early 2015.. Those were by far the worst periods for Muv-Luv threads.
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>>140767658
There is your answer >>140769664
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Does the Schwarzesmarken VN have multiple routes, or is it just an adaptation of the novels?
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>>140770128
sencond part will have 3 routes irisdina(true route), katia and lise.
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>>140770166
Is Iris confirmed True End? Sound like the least possible route to end up producing The Master if they give half a shit about continuity.
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>>140770256
yes
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>>140770256
It all depends if any of the routes actually lead to the LN ending; Iris dead, Katia protected for now, Lise dead. Theo canonically had a crush on Iris, but ended up with Katia so how the routes are gonna go is kinda up in the air.
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>>140765149
kek, you got me healinganon. That was good bait.

I was intending to make punished Theo running in parallel with you, but can't be here at times, or was busy, oh well. Hopefully something tonight after work.

>>140757235
Oh wow, so they actually did Mig 1.44 and J-XX then?

It's too bad they never seem to have done the Atlas Cheetah (which yeah I know, would just be a modified Mirage) or other Gen 2 TSF possibilities.
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>>140765149

A few days later you're sitting around the table with Beatrix and Lise, drinking coffee.

"So, you guys disappeared for a couple days this weekend. Where were you?"

"Oh, we decided to go on an overnight road trip."

"Strange that you didn't tell anyone, you know, before, during or after. By the way, could you pass the sugar"?"

You reach out with your left hand and hand her a small dish full of sugar cubes. She takes the dish, but then grabs your wrist and looks down at the gold Rolex Submariner on your wrist. It didn't seem right to just let that crooked commie cunt keep it. After all, property is theft.

"You fucking idiot. I knew it. First of all, take off that watch and never let anyone see it again. Second of all, since I know neither of you has it in you to take a life--" Beatrix smiles gently towards Lise at this. Even now, Beatrix finds it comforting to know Lise could never kill on her own behalf, and only did so in the old world when under extreme duress. At the very least, it meant Beatrix got to repair her relationship with her sister-in-law. She continues "--Where the fuck is he?"

You pull out an atlas, and after a bit of searching find the rest stop where you abandoned him, about 1500 km from your town. Beatrix looks at the map for a while. Near the end of your trip, you crossed over to another highway that nobody would think of using to get to your town. Eventually, Beatrix looks up, satisfied.

"Good. What does he have?"

"Nothing. No hat, no glasses, no shoes, nothing in his pockets, and he chewed through one of his socks. He was unconscious when we took him out of the trunk, so we were able to pull off the tape. We pulled everything that could be used to ID him out of the suit case, destroyed his personal documents, and tossed the suitcase out the window about a mile from the rest stop. There was nobody else on that stretch of the road at the time."

"Good. That's good. I would have just killed him but you know, I'm glad you didn't."
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>>140770578
>1,500km away
>he has nothing
Ain't seeing him ever again.
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>>140770578
Fuck you beato, what's wrong with a gold Rolex.


>>140770128
First VN (the one that got Greenlit) is one way through, but with "choices" (Theo can die three times during it). The second VN, Martyrs will have paths. I don't think we know when THAT will end, so there may actually be a third one, since Neptune isn't the halfway point. But honestly I dunno.
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>>140770487

If you're up for it I think the most entertaining thing would be Theo dreaming about Lise being passionately fucked in the bathroom the morning after the big fight and Annet having a nightmare about Farka watching a blank television, and vatloli telling them they had the same dream.

Theo would have all sorts of conflicting editions about the big fight.
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>>140770979

Also just to make him feel even more disgusted with himself his fortified suit is all sticky when he wakes up.
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>>140770979
>>140771086
Nah, just have him dream about Iris and Beatrix's makeout session. That would really fuck with his head.
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>>140770578
We're not telling anyone else about this, right? Better to just not.

And now it looks like we have to get rid of the Rolex. Time to a trip to a pawn shop I suppose.
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>>140771173
Nonsense, keep the rolex, its ID/stamp came from the other world so it most likely wasn't even made much less registered in this one.
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>>140770979
>>140771086
The problem is I'm so far behind. It's terrible, I'm terrible. Work at Walmart and finals and other writing and vidya really cut into my time lately.

Also, I'm kinda hoping to avoid more of the utterly blatant NTR. We'll see though, since it is him suffering.

Also, Anette probably isn't in a state to be dreaming. She's alive, I didn't say she's well...

>>140771161
Glorious.
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>>140771364
The best part is was that it was Iris who initiated and took the dominant position. It was Iris who was holding Beatrix against the car, empowered by her sexual frustration as she explored her mouth with her tongue.

How would Theo even handle it. On one hand, the love of his life, being cucked by someone he despises, and a woman at that! On the other, there'd be nothing hotter than Beatrix and Iris frenching.
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>>140771280
Hey, if Beatrix says "get never let anyone see it again", that's a pretty good cue to get rid of it.

Besides, with the proceeds from the sale (likely a fraction of what it's worth, but it was taken for free so meh), the money could be used to pay for the gas from the trip and maybe something extra for Lise.
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>there is no Kaiserreich Muv Luv
>there will never be the Mitteleuropan remants >they will never hold the line in their vassal France at the Rhine
>the German TSFs will never blare Die Wacht Am Rhien

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL2sViclu4A

Why do I feel this way lads? What can I do to feel different?
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>>140771558
All Rolexes have a serial number, the one anon has has a nonsense serial number, anyone who sees it would say it's a fake.
A very expensive fake.
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>>140771548
>the love of his life
>being cucked by someone he despises

Oh my dear dear comrade, it's much, much more complicated than that. For both of them.
>>
let go anons

all your waifus are dead
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>>140771767
Mine isn't
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>>140771548
Well, it could help if he happens to overhear anything they said between the two of them. Maybe hints of forbidden desires, maybe expression of laments/regrets, maybe even joy of a restored friendship.

Create context.

>>140771684
A fake with 18 ct gold alloys?
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>>140771807
Not for long
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>>140771767
but she isn't
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>>140771821
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>>140771767
The soul is eternal
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Still the cutest.
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>>140771684

You're forgetting that it is a Rolex that belonged to a Stasi/KGB double agent. You don't know what the internals look like, like if there's something inside of it that shouldn't be there. There are reasons to take it off that have nothing to do with it getting recognized as stolen. Although a stolen watch worth tens of thousands of dollars is not something you should be seen with if you're the one who stole it.

>>140771364

Annett is out of the fight? I hope she's OK even though I know she won't be.
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>>140771913
Long time no see Phamfag
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>>140771558
>maybe something extra for Lise.
More ribbons for everyone!
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>>140771954
Times been tough-ish.

I'm still here though, at times.

I'm always here though, in spirit. And so is Pham. There is always more room for love.
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>>140772007
>wedding ribbons!
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>>140772023
Hold on to your waifu
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>>140771364

You probably liked the Gretel story then.

I stopped writing the Gretel im Boening stories because nobody seemed to know enough about American labor politics to appreciate any of the jokes I thought were really funny when I wrote them.
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>>140772196
Humour is complicated
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>>140771913
Pham probably did the least to offend anyone and she still kicked the bucket. It's not fair, anon.
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>>140772268

Yep, and sometimes it's OK to fail if it means you're trying enough times to eventually succeed.
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>>140772376
>It's not fair, anon
Welcome to muv luv
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>>140772401
Or you keep failing and give up eventually
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>>140772376
Katia got her happy ending, and she had to sacrifice/suffer the least to get them compared to everyone who died. It's not about what is fair, kind of like RL.
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>>140772376

To be fair, getting shot with an RPG is pretty offensive even when it's done with the kindest possible intentions.
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>>140772474
Her happiness is short lived
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>>140768517
Why do they suck at it so much? Like, they treat the 666 at Schwarzesmarken as special units because of their laserjagd shit. Can't they all do the same? Why waste a lot of money and resources on manned units that are fragile as fuck when you can overwhelm them with missiles? No way they can shoot down everything every time, especially if it's a hail of rockets/missiles tens or hundreds of kilometers away from their effective range.
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>>140772531
Maybe, but if the fags who say she managed to evacuate 9/10 of Europe turn out to be right, then she'll just get another happy ending even if she dies to achieve it.
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>>140772457
>Giving up

If its important to you, never lose faith.
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>>140772552
Not all the USAF units perform Wild Weasel missions
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>>140772592
They are wrong
>1 billon people left on earth by 2001
>population of Europe was about 693 millions by the 80's
>>140772604
Nobody should pin their hopes on a miracle
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>>140772552
Because this story takes place in the 80s when these tactics are being used and fine tuned for the first time in a massive scale. Also all the mechs are still shit tier, with the life expectancy of a pilot being 8 minutes on average. The laser class's effective range is beyond the horizon and they are almost 100% accurate, with the only reason TSFs are effective at all is that Laser classes will never fire if there is a chance of friendly fire. TSFs fly so low that most the the time, Laser classes can't fire without hitting other BETA. This introduces the threat of being attacked by Grapplers (lol), Soldiers, Warriors, Forts, etc. now that you are closer to them. Back the the Laser class, I'd show you the gif of the short work they made of sustained artillery and orbital bombardment of all the nations on Earth focused on one hive for Operation Ouka if I could find it. Hell I'd show you the pictures with Laser classes attacking transport shuttles that are still in orbit with dead on accuracy. You have to keep in mind that the BETA were literally designed to make mechs plausible. There is nothing you can propose that would make more sense and be more effective in universe than a TSF.
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>>140772604

I want to snugglefuck Lise Hohenstein until she learns how to love herself again!

And then I want to continue to snugglefuck her.
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>>140772820
Thats a noble goal anon good luck.

Be a good snugglefucker.
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>>140772778
They shouldn't of killed Jurgen and Alfred before they perfected laserjagd.
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>>140772820
No child, you must do more.

You must commit to having sex only after having married, and even then, do it in the missionary position while holding hands for the purpose of procreation.
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>>140757235

I'm pretty sure that at least the MiG-1.44 project was started and canceled in-universe.
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>>140772778
But that's the hive, of course it would be filled with laser class. I mean on the field, when they are the ones in offensive, where there's only a handful of them. Altho I guess the data about their range in the wiki is full of shit, then. But regardless, I don't think a handful in the field can keep up with a saturated and sustained missile/rocket barrage, with their "really slow" recharge speed, especially if decoys are included and they're being launched in every direction to distract them.
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>>140763639

They are, and they're much more susceptible to the sort of 'cuteness appeal' that is BiS. Their judgement isn't worth shit.
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>>140773258
If you keep watching, you're going to see F-14's doing exactly what you said with Phoenix missiles.
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>>140750387
>written by a hack
How?
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>>140772701
>1 billon people left on earth by 2001

Such a memer.
>>
>>140773328
Also in addition, there's this
http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Combat_Doctrine
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>>140773328
That's good to hear. Thanks, kind anon.
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>>140773552
No problem
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>>140773282
But she's so adorable. It's impossible to resist BiS Beatrix.
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>543 posts
>72 IP
Still going stronk
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>>140773020

It's not like she's saving her virginity for her wedding night. Better to give her some sexual healing so when she finally says "I do," she does so with total clarity and conviction.
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>>140773796
Beatrix shouldn't be adorable. That defeats the whole purpose of her character.
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