Space Dandy is better than Cowboy Bebop.

>>140729181
I actually want that to be true. Because Bebop is the most overrate anime besides Evangelion

>>140729181
>Space Dandy is better than Cowboy Bebop.
You honestly can't argue that

>>140729181
I disagree

S2 was where it was starting to hit it's stride but S1 was pretty meh.

>>140729181
yeah, and? the sky is blue? 3DPD is shit? Any other obvious things you want to state

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>>140729341
>S2 was where it was starting to hit it's stride but S1 was pretty meh.

overall no but I enjoyed sds best episodes more than cbs

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>>140729292
Space Dandy is more fun and has better art than Cowboy Bebop.

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It took me a while to realize how much I loved Space Dandy. Just watching the OP in the final episode made my eyes tear a lot.

>>140729378
>>140729341
I mean, Space Dandy tried way too hard to be funny and it wasn't. I was just kinda pretending to be into it, because I was giving it a chance. I also gave Samurai Champloo a chance, but that one was actually very good. When watching Dandy, it was more of me being lenient towards Watanabe than me actually enjoying the show.

>>140729522
it being funny was NOT the point

you probably need to watch it while high because your brain is too simplistic to enjoy otherwise

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Agreed. The sheer variety in the episodes in terms of tone, visuals, comedy, etc. was unbelievable in and of itself. I love all of Watanabe's shows, but Space Dandy is the most amazing of them because it gives off an air of a bunch of guys who just wanted to make some cool shit and did. Plus the core cast has awesome designs, and Scarlet is best woman.

>>140729494
The series finale's world premiere was on my birthday. It was fucking amazing. I'm not sad it's gone, because I'm glad it happened.

>>140729522
There were a lot of parts I kind of just ignored because I figured they were doing the random thing. I think its nice to have these kinds of shows where it seems like anything can happen episode to episode, but that also means that the quality and enjoyment is all over the place.
If you like Hundred, you can tune into that show 900 episodes from now and get the exact same thing from it.
I honestly believe that if Space Dandy aired in Cowboy Bebops time slot it probably would have been just as loved.
I think most of /a/ just likes the jazz and doesn't care about the actual show, only that they like how everyone else thinks its cool.

>>140729522

Some episodes where very bad (zombie one comes to mind, actually season 1 had some bad lows) but there was some shit that was trippy/interesting/not trying to be a comedy which were brilliant imo

>>140729341
> S1
> meh

>>140729678
I did enjoy parts of it, but most of the time I was just giving it a chance because it's Watanabe. I never really cared or enjoyed anything to the same degree as Champloo or Bebop.

>>140729721
>I think most of /a/ just likes the jazz

I agree that Bebop is overrated, but I don't think it's fair to just generalize people. Bebop had likable characters and a pretty good story with lots of memorable moments. The music was just a bonus.

And yes, if Dandy came out the same year I think would be just as loved. (although I still think Bebop and Champloo are better)

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Best episode is here.

>>140729181
Space Dandy was my gateway to anime, so I agree. Hell, I'd argue it's my favorite anime because of it.

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>>140729963
That's not planet Limbo though

>>140729739
>lows
>zombie one

Zombie episode and plant episode were the two best of season one you pleb. Most of them were pretty mediocre though but I still enjoyed the show. I don't know if it's better than cowboy bebop but Samurai Champloo is waaaay better that Cowboy Bebop overall.

>>140730180
>her song will never be on a soundtrack

I know its Pavane, but I want this version of it, along with the first part of the song from the Catherine episode.

>>140730765
I will never get over how hyped 'The Morning Will Come, The Dawn is Soon' gets me.
The whole soundtrack is gold.

>>140729254
Both are god-tier, and lots of people hate on them for being popular so that makes them underrated in the end.

>>140731171
Cowboy Bebop actually is god tier.
Evangelion has only ever been popular because it has amazing visuals and can build tension very well. Nothing in the series actually makes sense.
It's the Zack Snyder of anime.

>>140729181
And both has a dub better then the original track. Especially Dandy >>140729181

Space Dandy is clearly anime. It looks like anime, it walks like anime, it talks like anime.

Cowboy Bebop transcends the genre. It's not concerned with how anime it's supposed to be.

>>140731171
CB, yes. I wouldn't call Evangelion god-tier, it's just pretentious imagery with redundant boring characters and an uninteresting core story.

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I don't care what you think about this series, but this particular scene will forever be one of the funniest scene I ever witnessed.

>>140731571
Agreed, the series knew all the best ways to poke fun at itself.

>>140731373
I believe "they both have incredibly cancerous fanbases" is what you're trying to say.

>>140731880
Every fanbase on /a/ is somewhat cancerous. It's so common and evenly spread that none of it stands out any more. The biggest cancer on this board now is you faggots who keep commenting on fanbases. Do us all a favour and fuck off.

>>140731525
>uninteresting

Come on anon, give it a little credit.

>>140729481
>characters get wiped every second ep
>more fun

Maybe if you have the attention span of a single episode, like some troglodyte.

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>>140731284
Found the plebs.

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>>140729181

>>140732746
Found the pleb.

>>140732682
Yes, anon, because that's obviously the only fun/funny thing present in Space Dandy.

>>140732682
>pretending bebop isn't episodic.

Wooooooooooooooooooow

>>140732746
>not falling in line with the awful opinions generated by the retards on this board
>pleb
Pick one

>>140732906
It's certainly the thing that ruined the fun for me.

>>140729341
I agree with this. First season was kinda boring but with a few great episodes like the loli, pants, and meow's family episodes. Season 2 consistently impressed me with nearly every episode.

>>140732988
So a lack of continuity outside of subtext ruined the show for you?

>>140733103
>outside of subtext
>people DYING is outside of subtext

You don't know what subtext is.

>>140732914
Why are acting like /a/ is the only place to ever laud Eva?

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I hope for season 2.

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>>140733321
But anon

Both are good but not great. Space Dandy was hit and miss in a lot of places, there is only a few episodes that were good, I don't know why it exploded in popularity but perhaps it was good marketing and people hailed it was beebop 2.0.

I loved Beebop but the reason it is so popular because it the anime everyone watches at the start which will blow you away.
I re watched it again a while ago, it does not hold up to my nostaliga.
Don't get me wrong I loved every episode and it is a fantastic sci fi but it has it's flaws, I actually disliked the whole Spike backstory, I would have rather have had it just a episodic bounty hunter anime. The serious bits felt forced.

Be careful when watching old anime you thought as god tier, you may not love it second time round.

>>140730071
>gateway to anime
Holy shit how new, lurk forever.

>>140733243
I know a lot of people enjoy it. But /a/ is the only place that's ever tried to mock me for not liking it. Posters here rely too much on their anonymity for confidence.

>>140733224
I never said that. I meant that characters dying or being transported to alternate dimensions but then having the next episode start right back on the Aloha Oe would be the lack of continuity.

>>140730071
>Space Dandy was my gateway to anime, so I agree. Hell, I'd argue it's my favorite anime because of it.
Lurk more.

>>140733406
>But /a/ is the only place that's ever tried to mock me for not liking it. Posters here rely too much on their anonymity for confidence.
Yeah, can't argue that.

Both are better than Champloo, but Dandy's low points are worse than Bebop's regardless of how you take the rest of the show

>>140733383
Don't reply to him! It's dangerous to interact with time travellers

>>140733389
>I don't know why it exploded in popularity
>old anime
>old
Get the fuck out.

>>140729181
You shut your whore mouth!

>>140733406
>Posters here
You should go back to that place were people will upvote you for your hot opinions.

>>140731401
Anime is not a genre
Cowboy Bebop doesn't transcend the stuff it rips from at all

>>140733541
Cowboy Bebop is fairly old.

God I fucking hated the toonami niggers, great anime though.

>>140733541
It came out in 1998, fair enough it is not 70s or 80s anime but it is 18 years old. Cowboy beebop can buy alcohol and smokes .

>>140733578
And right on schedule I get some other cunt with an uninspired reply

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>>140733598
I really need to sleep, let's leave it there.

>>140733682
Schlaf gut.

>>140733661
If your reasons to not like evangelion are >pretentious, boring characters or nothing makes sense then you are just a plain shitposting or literally too pleb
As for uninteresting core story, you just wanted to stir shit, didn't you?

>>140733726
Geh weg, schmutzige Deutscher

>>140733859
That wasn't my comment, dipshit. This was >>140731284
I explained what I thought was good about the show and said everything else was bad

>>140734164
There's the nothing makes sense thing though, which is not true.
As for the other person, that's your regular eva watcher who pauses in between to shitpost and gets "lol 2D4Y" replies that probably happened to you too.

>>140734385
Between the Christian imagery and the convoluted plot the series is trying too hard to be deep. If you break it up into individual scenes there are moments of brilliance, but overall it's a clusterfuck of angst and aliens.
It does not deserve the attention it's gotten, but now it's too big to fail. People don't want to believe this huge thing they're a fan of is shit, so they'll defend it and stay in denial of its many flaws.
You're just another one of those people.

>>140731525
The characters are great, now you're just trying too hard. If you're not just baiting then how are they "redundant?" I don't see how they are unnecessary. Or how are they boring? What you want some cool guy to follow? I really think you've never seen eva, or you're just bait. I'm going to ignor the rest of what you said because those arguments are just going to turn "duurrr a is pretentious and b is too" without any context to why you think that. I'm not saying eva is the best thing ever, but seriously this comment is shit.

Anyone else like the library episode a lot?

>>140734641
>Between the Christian imagery and the convoluted plot the series is trying too hard to be deep
Oh I'll give you that if we are talking about only the anime, afterwards Anno explains some other shit in games and renders the Christian imagery to just code names since the situation they are in with all the aliens pretty much resembles it.

>but now it's too big to fail
Every fucking body and their moms knows that rebuild is shit.

>>140735303
Shit was great, but definitely more enjoyable with /a/

>>140734641
>moments of brilliance
Be fair now, those moments happen quite a bit. Taking away the christian imagery and 2deep4u talky bits, there's loads of clever and well executed mech fights, not to mention how well animated those were.

>>140734641
I'll never understand why the christian imagery is always such a strong point of contention for shitting on eva.

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>>140735502
Because people assume it's being pretentious when it's literally just there because cross shaped explosions and shit look cool

>>140729181
>Space Dandy
I dropped this piece of shit in the first episode. I couldn't stand it.

>>140735587
Yeah it's there to give it a cool atmosphere and it succeeds.
Blows my mind that people extrapolate it to it being 2deep.

Space Dandy is the best comedy sci fi anime of all time, prove me wrong.

>>140735630
I dropped it first joke.
I honestly thought:
>this joke is taking too long, if the punchline is that it's butts instead of tits I'm dropping this shit
Then it was and I decided it wasn't for me.

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Would you date 4DPD?

>>140736567
I'd put my dick in a jewish hypercube.

>>140736567
>old hag who thinks too much of herself
No.

>>140730223
Nah man, the space loli episode was literally the best episode of season one.

>>140736185
>joke
I'm serious, you faggot. Space Dandy makes space sci-fi look like a complete joke. Cowboy Bebop makes it look like a dream.

So everyone agrees that the Death Planet episode was the best episode, right?

>>140729181
Actually as a series I agree.

Nope. I think Bebop blows it out of the water. I liked Dandy and that is it the rest of the cast was terrible.

>>140736185
>>140735630
Dropping Space Dandy because of the first episode is horribly misguided because it's very unrepresentative of the show as a whole. That's not to say there isn't any more episodes like it but it's not really the majority. Space Dandy is a show that gathered tons of directors and writers and gave them full reign to work on their own episodes. It ends up being something that with all kinds of episodes. There's more comedic episodes but there are also sad ones, philosophical ones, serious ones, artsy ones. Even if you didn't like the first episode's comedy chances are high you'll like some other episodes' comedy because like I said, completely different writers.

It's not my personal opinion at all but I've seen people who highly praise Space Dandy calling the first episode the worst one and how they shouldn't have started with it.

Anyway, what this means is the show will be hit or miss and the episodes people prefer vary wildly person to person but it's no doubt worth a watch.

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Who's the best Dandy loli and why it's Erssime?

>>140736795
Close second but "Even Vacuum Cleaners Fall in Love, Baby" is still my favorite.

>>140735374
I agree the fights were a high point. Which is why I thought Rebuild 1.0 and 2.0 were a vast improvement on the original series. They polished the visuals and streamlined the plot.

>>140735502
>>140735587
>>140735754
You anons don't understand how a story is supposed to work. You can't have one element be complex purely for the sake of complexity (the plot) while another is just for cool factor (the Christian shit). The large number of Eva haters you're complaining about are proof that many viewers assumed the confusing plot and meaningless imagery served the same purpose. Now you're trying to argue that they were obviously separate.
It's messy; a professional animation studio should have been able to make a tighter product, one whose individual elements complimented each other.

Wow a thread where people can ACTUALLY have discussions. A rare phenomenon indeed

>>140736795
My inner /a/ contrarian tells me no, since it's the clear #1, but I agree. In face, I'd say a A World With no Sadness is one of the greatest achievements in anime in the past decade, and makes Space Dandy worth watching. Under half of the episodes are really worth the hype though. That's funny to think about after typing it, as that statement could be applied to most shows, but Space Dandy's lack of continuity means each episode is all alone with nothing to back it up. It can make a lot of it a slog.

>>140736795
Best take I've ever seen on the 'accepting your fate' type of story.

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>>140738353
The monsters are called Angels so they have cross explosions and shit. You're seriously saying a series can't have things that have actual meaning AND shit that looks cool? Get the fuck out of your own ass.

>>140738414
Yeah and the Eva units are made from angel flesh yet modeled after oni because they're almost exclusively Japanese mecha

There's literally nothing about it that isn't "cool factor"

>>140738414
That's not what I'm saying at all. You're jumping to conclusions so that you don't have to pay attention to my post and come up with a legitimate counter.
Any decent story needs to have both actual meaning (substance) and shit that looks cool (form), but Eva was nothing but form. Its plot was a messy pile of daddy issues and armageddon events. There's no real substance, just the illusion of it.

>>140738596
Nigga did you not see >>140735587

They have an ENTIRE FUCKING EPISODE AT THE START OF THE FUCKING SERIES dedicated to spelling out the message of the show to fucking retards like yourself and you still all manage to fucking miss it

I like Space Dandy best out of Watanabe's works but there's no reason at all they should be pitted against each other.

>>140738643
I'm not going to debate specific episodes because I haven't watched the series in years.
But you seem to think one episode spelling out the whole plot is a good thing. It's not. In fact it's a sign that they knew nobody would understand what the fuck was going on if they didn't spell it out.
The only message I got was a vague one about accepting yourself for what you are, and that only really covers the family drama between Shinji and Gendo. It means nothing for the half of the show that was about mech/alien battles and saving the human race.
When the show has several vastly different frames but only one of them has substance that means it's a failure.

>>140738399
I thought every episode was worth the hype, easily.

>>140729181
I wholeheartedly agree.

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HEY LADY

>>140732800
Better than liking moe-shit

>>140739527
But

Why?

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>>140738353
>I agree the fights were a high point. Which is why I thought Rebuild 1.0 and 2.0 were a vast improvement on the original series. They polished the visuals and streamlined the plot.

watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfM3WjyCt8s

>>140741509
Every episode had a lot of charm, I thought.

>>140739262
Just because you're too stupid to understand what is easily spelled out to you, does not mean the show is a failure. It just means you are stupid.

>>140738353
You seem to be under the impression that religious imagery does not serve the plot or that it wasn't meant to. Think about it though, it doesn't take much digging to figure out all of the various biblical references that are in the show, and if your keen enough on your theology you can even catch some really cool references. The religious symbolism is an extension of the setting and the ideas of cosmic horror that permeate the show. Without it you don't have Eva. The show needs these elements to make one of its central points, the idea of an incomprehensible God, the idea of man supplanting God, idea of actions that are a front to God, the biblical concepts of human nature. Christian mythology is a fantastic backdrop to communicate these ideas against. Honestly calling 1.0 and 2.0 a vast improvement probably killed the chance of those other guys replying to you. In my opinion, though, you can like them all you want but just understand that a lot of people dislike them for the exact opposite of why you like them, and it's far from anything more than an opinion.

>>140739262
>It means nothing for the half of the show that was about mech/alien battles and saving the human race.
So when a character has an internal struggle you won't accept it unless it's part of the external conflict. How do you watch anything that isn't made by Micheal Bay. Shinji is a human being whose life consists of more than punching monsters in the face if you hadn't noticed. His internal problems drive his actions and who he is throughout the show. He's no different than Hamlet, Mac Beth, Gatsby, Luke Sky walker. Does your life consist of nothing but shitposting on 4chan or something... wait, don't answer that.

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What did they mean by this?

>>140733509
I will never understand how someone can think either were better than Champloo. Champloo pulled off its atmosphere more than the other two combined and had consistently good episodes aside from a few near the end.

>>140736185
>dropping a show after the first joke in the first episode
Sounds like you were just looking for an excuse.

>>140744193
They had gay buttsex

>>140729364
I always hoped for Aimee to come back in some form. Her being contained to one episode made that episode rather pointless in the end.

I love them both about the same amount but for totally different reasons. They're going for totally different things, so I find it hard to really compare the two.