Why don't they just wipe out the natives in GATE and take

Because politics is the only thing that's keeping America, Russia and China from moving in.

>>140671841
muh honouru
muh "trying to promote patriotism using a widley view medium of entertainment while demonizing other countries" -aru

Because the Nipponese are a righteous and just people. They would never pillage and a rape another culture, let alone one that does not pose a serious threat to them.
Truly, we should all embrace the Japanese. If only other countries were like that, then the world would be a better place. I love the Nihonese!

>>140671943
>Rape of Nanking

>>140671841
This >>140671921
and the gods would probably get really upset.

Along with all the apostles of said gods.
You can't nuke things that use magic without having a physical form.
Oh and fuckloads of angry wizards that would probably suicide-mage-nuke the gate.

>>140672001
WOOOOSH

>>140672001
That sarcasm really went over your head

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>>140672015
Then they can just call for help from America so they could kill the gods and split the profits

I don't get why the show acts like they're on bad terms when the US is Japan's best ally

>>140672121
>the US is Japan's best ally
From the USA's perspective.

>>140672148
And from Japan, IRL the JSDF doesn't do anything and the US spends a good chunk of money also being Japan's military so China and North Korea don't try anything

Their knowledge and culture would be lost, don't you want to ride wyverns and do magic. Also it's a hassle they would have to deal with rebels and class issues, inter-specie politics and even more asylum seekers.
Your also forgetting their other kingdoms that would be frightened by the show of force, considering their world is potentially as vast as ours it would cost a ton of money.

Most importantly they don't want to be seen as the bad guys.

>>140672190
>And from Japan,
No.
The Japs would love to be independent.

>>140672190
>>140672121
t. Murrifat
死んでください。

>>140672121
It hasn't been exactly revelead how magic actually works or how gods exactly work in gate's universe but I don't think they could be killed without genetech being used to create super-magic genes and implanting them into soldiers (since magical ability is genetic)

I have no idea why they haven't even tried that yet though.

Imagine spec ops but with magic. Fucking magic.

>>140672243
Being independent in the modern world isn't realistic and never works

>>140672314
You can argue about objective points however much you want. That doesn't change *their* point of view unless you do the arguing with the Japanese.

Japan is weak compared to how it was before, jsdf will not be able to take over the gate world.

>>140671841
Because they're Japanese not American.

>>140671841
>killing delicious nekogirls and elves

I hope there's a special place in hell just for you.

>>140672530
>not killing everything that isn't human

Neck yourself scum

>>140672555
>>>/tg/

>>140672493
I see this argument get thrown alot but america would just stage, fund, arm and train a rebellion and install a native, pro-american dictator that is related to higher politics.

>>140672121
>Then they can just call for help from America so they could kill the gods and split the profits


A single god opened that gate. The gods can damn well close one. And somebody that can create holes in the walls of dimensions > 21st century humans.

>>140672600
>implying that America can't kill gods

>>140672600
What God opened the gate?

>>140672629
The Americans can't even eradicate the Taliban.

>>140671943
>unit 731

>>140672668
The Taliban is so weak right now they aren't even worth mentioning

>>140672753
Because the fight against them created a new and more dangerous monster.
It's like the Australians trying to fix their nature by releasing rabbits and toads.

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>>140672555
Humanity, fuck yeah

>>140672655
I don't think has been told yet, even in the LN. I could have missed it though.

>>140671841
It's an entire world; not a fucking island. Japan simply doesn't have the man power to seize control of that world; nor the knowledge of that world's beasts, language, or ecosystem. By keeping the natives alive they can seize their knowledge of the world and also gain man power to assist in construction and resource gathering. Now that they're in another world the main things they need are infrastructure and information.

>>140672243
Not if they have to spend millions on the military. Japan loves that America is spending their money to keep back Japan's enemies.

>>140673220
>Not if they have to spend millions on the military.
They do spend millions on their military.

>>140672001
>Fake of Nanking

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>>140671841
There are multiple reasons, anon.

First and foremost, It keeps Japan from coming into conflict with the rest of the world on their side of the gate. America, Russia and China are all hankering for that sweet fantasy oil, so Japan have to behave themselves so as not to set a precedent for "humanitarian intervention" from the great powers.

Secondly, extermination is very expensive and the logistics of establishing all the death camps and associated infrastructure would take decades to complete in their region alone with Japan's current resources, which would at the same time put a strain on Japan's economy.

Therefore, it's in Japan's national interest to take a leaf from the book of all great imperial empires; establish a suzerainty through show of force and uneven diplomatic agreements, installing puppets from the indigenous population to stamp out any dissenters on your behalf while you plunder their natural resources for the benefit of an elite club of multinational conglomerates, with some trickle down benefits reaching the general population in the homeland.

This way you can maximize the efficiency of your exploitation of the foreigners in the parallel fantasy verse, all while the gormless peasants there haven't got a clue and think you're their friends!

>>140673862
Pretty much. I think a fair proportion of the armies that the colonizers used to take control of their colonies were composed of natives.

>>140672753
yet 'murica still can't beat them.

>>140674918
They're pretty much like roaches, you're truly never going to get rid of them but you can cut their numbers by so much that they aren't a problem

>>140671841
Because even the writing of GATE of all things is not that retarded.

>>140671943
Yeah, you might want to take a history lesson or 2, dumbro

>>140671841
Because the glorious JSDF is trying to play white knight here, just like how they teach their children the Japanese did nothing wrong in WW2.

>>140672015
The Japanese believe in no god. They even think Rory is a normal teenage child.

Season 2 never

>>140672243
Only hard-line right-winged ones think so. The rest understand the would be no Japan on the map without the US.

>>140672001
I always imagine a German cuck posting these things, who's just jealous because the Japanese are allowed to be nationalistic without being labeled as "evil Nazis".

>>140675526
I thought it's a chink?

>>140671841
Because they are not American

>>140675484
Show me one positive portrayal of the American bases in Japan in anime and I'll believe you.

>>140675786
>anime
>the example of how Japanese normies think
Top kek. Try leaving your basement first, anon.

>>140675868
>normies
You are deeper in the basement than me.

>daytime anime
>for basement dwellers
You also need to lurk more.

>>140675653
Are you on something, nigga? What OP said are literally things the US did in countries she liberated.

>>140675995
>NOT

>>140675995
What?

>>140672121
>Then they can just call for help from America so they could kill the gods and split the profits
Are they going to say they're athiest and don't believe they exist?

>>140676073
>>140676074
>they didn't just wipe out the natives and take all of their resources by force, instead they played a stupid game of politics when they knew that they could take over the entire world in 3 days?

>>140672148
>>140672243

>amerifat weeaboo thinks they know how japan works

>>140676246
Anon, if Americans did that, which you said they did, then it is a completely legitimate answer to say that the Japanese did not do that because they are not Americans.
What's your problem?

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Is Gate propaganda?

>>140676340
does anyone care?

>>140671921
Here. Have this 4chan gold.

>>140676290
Not that hard, since Japan's been the US's vessel state for more than 70 years already.

>>140671943
Pretty much this. GATE is meant for nips to self fellate vigorously and pretend they are the best country on the planet. Such a noble, attractive people wouldn't ever exploit those weaker than them, even if they were able to! Not like those loud Americans, aggressive Soviets, or slant eyed Chinese. People rip on America's USA USA USA propaganda films and shows a lot, but at least ours aren't this fucking cringey. How much money do you guys want to bet that not a single person involved in the making of this show, or that watched it, admits that Japan committed war crimes?

>>140676340
I'd do anything to fuck an elf. If making me think that was their intention then it's worked.

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>>140676359
Kind of yes.

>>140672907
>I don't think has been told yet, even in the LN. I could have missed it though.
It was Hardy you fucking moron

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>>140672243
>The Japs would love to be independent.

And so would Yuropoors, but none of them are really capable of conceptualizing the huge amount of aid America gives them. Not only are there the billions in military aid, but also huge amounts of grain, produce, meat, dairy, and raw material exports as well. Even if they were "independent" militaristically, they will always be dependent on U.S. due to their overpopulated nations being incapable of providing for their populace.

Even more than that, the japs would be crawling back, begging America for help if we ever really cut all military ties with them because the Chinese and Russians would be up their ass so fast their heads would spin. Europe would be in the same scenario with the Ruskies. And the same would be South Korea with North Korea, DMZ or not. Neither place realizes that only the threat of war with the U.S. keeps the Russians and Chinese (and the NK) in line. If you fags ever really got the true independence you wanted then you'd be annexed and start a new Soviet Republic.

>>140676577
thanks for clearing that up

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>>140671841
The real question that should be asked here is this
Why does this anime/manga/LN makes the burgerlanders so butthurt? Seriously why does this show trigger so many hamburglars?

>>140676436
>The Nips are still living in their fantasy land of the Nippon empire
This is like karmic punishment, no wonder there're so much earthquake in Japan lately.

>>140676621
>America, savior of the world

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>>140676621
>muh freedom

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>>140676621
>but also huge amounts of grain, produce, meat, dairy, and raw material exports as well
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS FUCKING RICH

>>140676673
>>140676735
Do you fags disagree with that?

>>140676621
It angers me that you are capable to spouting this much insane bullshit while posting a picture of Lain

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>>140671841
Freedom is not optional

>>140676767
Any sane person would disagree with that nonsense.

>>140676246
>why don't they just do the so-called american things
>but they aren't americans
>BUT THAT'S TOTALLY WHAT AMERICAN DID
This is what your argument looks like. Are you capable of reading, anon?

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>>140676673
>>140676735
Not savior, but by far the least of all evils, and you're retarded if you think otherwise. The chinks and bears would be so far up Japan's ass if we ever truly severed militaristic ties with them. And as I said, the same goes for Europe with the Russians and SK with NK. Only the detterent of having to deal with a messy and possibly nuclear war with the U.S. keeps them in line.

>>140676756
>>140676807
Feel free to Google it. So far nobody has refuted shit, just said "BUT THAT"S NOT WHAT I LEARNED IN SKEWL" with zero rebuttals.

>>140676621
M8, we IMPORT agricultural products because we are not able to keep up in some areas, are you so crazy that you don't know our own goddamn country?

>>140676854
I don't want to refute shit because it's so fucking bullshit.
I don't argue with stupid.

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>>140672555
>when the blood of the Xenos hit the earth juust right

>>140676854
No one wants to argue with a retard with too much time on their hands, that doesn't make you right.

>>140671841
Japan is a peace loving nation, duh.

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>>140676854
You mean our exports that are decreasing at alarming speed while our importing of food only grows? Pic related you goddamn moron

>>140676897
>you will never purge xenos filth in the name of the god emperor

Such is life

Why didn't they lunch a surveillance satellite?

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Americans got rid of Natives, why don't Nips do the same and take their resources?

>>140671841
Because it's idiotic to do that when you can spend much less money and manpower and have them mine for you.

>>140676959
That's why they need to conquer the world so that everything can be peaceful under a single government.

>>140676881
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_production_in_the_United_States

inb4 >jewpedia. This is just one example of many, I can search more if your Google is broken.

>>140676894
>>140676917
>I don't need to have a reason to disagree
>I don't need to defend my ideas or even have evidence to support them!

Fucking ad homs out the ass.

>>140676997
I think your reading comprehension needs work. I said Japan, and to a lesser extent Europe, rely heavily on importing U.S. grown food. That has nothing to do with our domestic food imports and exports. Stop avoiding the actual topic I brought up. The only moron here is yourself.

>>140677010
Because it's just a myth, stupid.

>>140677010
because technically the native empire in gate is descent from romans which has a direct link to modern western culture

unlike muh solutreans being wiped out by natives

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>>140677026
Are you going to point out to me that the thing we plant fucking everywhere in this country is being exported to most countries that do not have the space to grow this much wheat? Are you going to tell me that the ocean is infact wet?

>>140677010
But most of those natives died from disease without ever meeting a European.

Besides, my town is filled with fucking Navajo and Hopi. For an exterminated race, there sure are lots of them.

>>140677010
But the indians were primitive heathens who deserved to be butchered.

>>140676841
Do you know how much of a shithole the world would be now if not for the US's existence?

>>140677066
Earth produces twice as much food as it needs.
Even if the US stopped exporting, nobody would die of starvation.

>>140677137
Where did the disease come from? Magical fairy land? Europoors brought the disease with them and ended up killing the natives who never had anything like the illness sufered in europe

>>140672121
US is sly as fuck, look at how th good neighbor era ended up for latin amrica

>>140677134
>Are you going to point out to me that the thing we plant fucking everywhere in this country is being exported to most countries that do not have the space to grow this much wheat

That's exactly my point, you simpering moron. Japan is incapable of growing the food it needs to support its people, as is Europe. As a result, both are heavily reliant on U.S. exports to feed their people. There can be no INDEPENDENCE that people in this thread have been screeching about, because their populace would starve and their society would collapse if they ever achieved the true independence they slobber over. It's just a stupid wet dream with no basis in reality, and I fear for the state of your country's education if you think otherwise.

>>140677192
I wouldn't be looking at her eyes

>>140677026
>Fucking ad homs out the ass.
It's not an ad hominem. You are being an ignorant retard and demanding that we provide counter proof for every single one of your follies.
I suggest you look up military spending.
The US is huge.
But Russia isn't.
Russia cannot hope to take Europe.

>>140677166
It would be a better place without some fag country funding every terrorist group that has existed in the middle east

>>140677178
That's not how capitalism works. Just because there is a resource doesn't mean the resource will be distributed equitably and free of charge.

>>140677214
>Genocide is the INTENTIONAL action to systematically eliminate an ethnic, national, racial or religious group.

Accidentally bringing diseases that they didn't have any idea about isn't even close to intentional. It wasn't genocide.

>>140677227
Wait, are you so fucking dumb that you somehow thought that when we said independence they would isolate themselves? We are talking about not having the US meddle in their internal affairs, not having to import or export food products, every single country in the world has done that since the dawn of time, what the fuck

>>140676436
I've watched the show and I know they have committed war crimes but how does that detract from the show at all it's like watching a USA USA show but for a different audience now it's NIHONGO NIHONGO wow such honorable. Not a bad thing but could get annoying.

>>140677299
Sorry, let me rephrase that:
Nobody in Europe and Japan would die of starvation.

Those were the places we are talking about. Did you forget?

>>140677242
>insulting you in an attempt to discredit your argument isn't an ad hom!

That's exactly what an ad hom is.

>Russia cannot hope to take Europe.

HAHAHAHAAHA fucking hell man, and people say Americans are stupid. I wish the U.S. would just pull out of all the ungrateful propped up democracies it helped in Europe and Asia and just leave them to rot.

>>140677262
It's all to maintain the current world balance, you see.

>>140677166
>Do you know how much of a shithole the world would be now if not for the US's existence?

>Burgercucks do not participate in world war 2
>Burgercucks do not give supplies to the Soviet union
>Therefore, nazi germany has 1 front and without the American supplies the Russian warmachine would hae collapsed.
>this means nazi Germany would´ve won the war

If anything, burgercuckistan is the reason it is so shit now.

>>140677412
>That's exactly what an ad hom is.
No, an ad hominem would be if I said you are stupid and that's why your arguments are worthless.
I'm saying your arguments are worthless, and that's why you are stupid.

You REALLY should look things up.

>>140677412
>Russia cannot hope to take Europe.

They literally can't. They're broke, they're equipment is outdated and EU countries have nukes.

>>140677312
>we want independence!
>we still want American military protection so we can play chicken with China though
>we also want to stay dependent on your food and oil exports

Yes, what incredible nationalistic fervor, truly the independence all countries strive for. What a joke.

>>140677313
For me, it's because at least USA USA has actual international power. Japan has a decently powerful economy, but internationally they have pretty much zero influence and zero military power. Them pumping themselves up over how powerful they are is at best pathetic, at worst hilarious.

>>140677331
Where else would they get their imports from? The Russkies?

>>140672121
>best ally
America is Japan's ONLY ally.

>>140677481
They're also broke and had outdated equipment in the WW2, and if the US didn't join the war, all Europe nations would be speaking Russian now.

>>140677549
Are you saying that america is not actually independant since we need to import food too? Also the japanese want the military to go out so they can expand their own military or did that part go over your head? Did all the manifestations and news not clue you on that?

>>140677549
>Where else would they get their imports from? The Russkies?
Europe is producing enough for themselves. Europe is exporting food. Didn't you know that?

It's a big policy of Europe to make sure they are independent in terms of food production.

Damn, just like every GATE thread, this one is filled with some hardcore delusional weebs that actually think the japs could survive a week without the U.S. Neo-/a/ sucks, I remember weeaboos used to be shitposted into oblivion, if their threads weren't just deleted outright.

Politics is in the darkest side of the moon.

>>140677481
Russia has always been broke with outdated equipment, but that didn't stop them from almost winning WWII by themselves.

>>140677549
>Where else would they get their imports from?
Japan's got plenty of neighbors. They have excellent business relationships with Australia. That's where most of their "Japanese" pumpkins are coming from too.

>>140674918
How do you "beat" a societal fungus?

>>140677549
Japan can't have military power because the US does not allow it, holy shit they are always building ships that try to go around the regulations because the US still insist on not allowing them to have a army, do you actualy fucking know history?

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>>140676621

The Yuropoors are probably worse off than the U.S. in that respect; without the U.S. in the equation, the Russians could drive all the way to Aquitaine if they were to invade. The only reason that only SOME of Europe is insolvent is that they can get away with a smaller defense budget than the U.S. Navy.

Conversely, the Japanese could probably stop a Chinese invasion of Japan proper, though I'm not sure they could do well enough to blockade the Chinese and prevent the same from happening to them.

Both, however, (with the exception of the British) are still dependent for the U.S. on Strategic Deterrence.

>>140677611
>>140677677
>modern wars are fought the same as in WW2

>>140677549
>Where else would they get their imports from?
Brazil, Europe, Russia, Korea, Australia, do you think Burgerland is the only country that exists in the world?

>>140676290
>Europoor thinks they know how Japan works.

>>140677611
The Russians were overrun in WW2. The Germans just weren't fast and numerous enough to finish the job.

>>140677313

Because most USA USA movies (or whatever) are

>America is the best!

Whereas this is

>Everyone sucks except Japan!

>>140677549
Every European country except the Netherlands, Belgium the UK and Germany can feed themselves using their own food production, the countries mentioned can be fed by the food surpluss from other countries.

Foodwise, you're right about America being the breadbasket of the world (untill Africans stop killing eachother and realize their continent is worth gold) but since we live in a WORLD economy that is a null point.

Because please don't tell me you actually believe the US could function completely on it's own without the import and export of other nations...

>>140677678
>Japan's got plenty of neighbors
And the majority of them want the destruction of Nipponland. In the worst case scenario, they could even threaten the Aussie to not have any business relationship with Japan.

>>140677704
By rebuilding society and giving their recruits an alternative to suicide bombing.

>>140672243
Japan IS an independent country, 'tard.

>>140677157
So does people who live inside the Gate, they are barbarians that is still living in medieval ways.

>>140677840
They are still occupied by America.

>>140677840
Keep telling yourself that, dumbass.

>>140677823
But they like broken societies and killing themselves.

>>140677822
>And the majority of them want the destruction of Nipponland.
Russia's military is a joke.
The Chinese military is (still) a joke. It's going to become dangerous in the future, but without American intervention the Japanese could have an impressive army that would deter the Chinese.

>>140677976
Nope, that's just all they know thanks to the US.

>>140677695
Man, her lipstick really looks bad. It almost always looks like her mouth is wide open, until she actually talks.

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>just finished ep24
Is it over for good?

>>140677936
>I don't know how international law and geopolitics work, because I'm a moron.

>>140672121
>US is Japan's best ally
12/7 never forget
hachi/roku wasuraremasen

>>140677822
>And the majority of them want the destruction of Nipponland
Yes, they want to destroy a place with a growing economy instead of conquering them like the US did, how dumb can you get you fuck?

What would happen if a GATE spawned in America?
Would the events played out the same?

>>140678039
They were fucked before 'Murica ever got there, anon.

>>140678047
Read the manga, read the novel, read the webnovel. It's not over yet, anon.

>>140678134
They had countries.

>>140677481

The French barely count as a nuclear weapons state, and the Russians probably have more modern equipment than the Europeans, regardless of the overall state of their forces.

They also have actual combat soldiers.

>>140677615

The U.S. doesn't need to import food, though. A lot of what the U.S. imports is what is economically classified as a luxury; stuff that doesn't grow well in the continental United States. The rest is stuff that can be produced cheaper elsewhere.

Unlike the countries in question, the U.S. could quite easily produce more than enough food domestically; it simply would cost a bit more than buying it oversees.

Learn to economics.

>>140678039

Actually, that's all they know thanks to Islam.

>>140678132

No. The entire Special Region is quickly

>>140677933
There are US bases in Britain. Is the UK occupied, too?

>>140678134
They had defined countries and didn't have Suicide Bomber as a pastime

>>140678188
>The French barely count as a nuclear weapons state, and the Russians probably have more modern equipment than the Europeans, regardless of the overall state of their forces.

>They also have actual combat soldiers.

Thanks for that, now I can disregard everything you say as complete bullshit

>>140676436
>at least ours aren't this fucking cringey
While working at a cinema I had an opportunity to see the ending of the Red Dawn remake and I can confirm that you are absolutely full of shit about this,

>>140678188
>No. The entire Special Region is quickly
You can't even control your own monkeys, what makes you believe you would be able to control a whole other world?

>>140678188
>the Russians probably have more modern equipment than the Europeans
The Russians have shit. They're broke.

>Actually, that's all they know thanks to Islam.
Islam is the only thing the Americans left them. It's no wonder that it's having a second coming.

Holy shit thought I was on /pol/ reading this thread

>>140678349
Most of /pol/ is actually better informed than the main shit poster in this thread

>>140677615
>America
>needing to import food
America produces so much food we literally give it away to third world countries because there aren't enough markets on Earth to sell it all. We have so much arable land that we devote tens of thousands of square acres to growing animal fodder and precursor for bio-fuel. My state's main export is crops, and over half the agricultural product is hay and alfalfa, grown exclusively to use as livestock fodder.

Really gives you a perspective of how bountiful this country is.

>>140675117
>>140672746
Guys..... Did he need to write sarcasm or something under his post?

>>140671841
I wish there was less lolishit and more depth in GATE

That won't happen thou

>>140678686
>>140678404
>>140678290
I appreciate your strength of will to stay on topic when everybody else is shitposting.

>>140678283

No, the Germans would fold in a few days of actual combat with a semi-capable enemy. They have fewer than a hundred combat aircraft, about sixty of which are generally operational and half of which could be consider capable of flying combat missions in the short-term.

Their ground combat arms are similar; large formations but with very little combat power compared to their overall size. Training is also sub-par on account of small budgets for salary and supplies, and so forth.

>>140672784
>>140672784

America playing to be gods was what created the monsters in the first place.

>>140678773
Sure, the Germans have no military at all. That doesn't lessen the combat capacities of England and France and the other European countries.

>>140678773
The Germans are part of Nato now and wouldn't fight alone.

>>140678390
Yea sure /pol/

>>140678712
no one cares what you wish

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>>140678211

No, they spent their time living in tents out in the desert chopping each others heads off. Then oil made them relevant in the early 1900s, and globalization allowed them to resume their attacks on the West by asymmetric means rather than invading armies, but they're still living in tents out in the desert chopping each other's heads off.

In a hundred years, the demand for oil will drop enough or other supplies will be developed enough that the petrodollars will stop for good, and they'll go back to being irrelevant.

But they'll still be living in tents out in the desert chopping and each others heads off.

>>140679131
Where do you get such nonsense from?

>>140679095
pls kill yourself

>>140679279
again, nobody cares what you want

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>>140678390
Most of /int/ is actually better informed than the main shit poster in this thread
fixed that for you

>>140679330
>/int/
>roleplaying as countries : the board

>>140679214

Studying history?

The whole place has been an unambiguous shithole since the Mongols sacked Baghdad in 1258. The Ottomans were never more than on par with Europe (the conquest of Constantinople being more a function of the decline of the Byzantines than the Ottomans), and fell behind after the Renaissance got rolling.

There was a short period after the fall of Rome during the Low Middle Ages when the Islamic World was somewhat united (kind of) that you could argue that they were better off, but they never got on the same level as Rome,

>>140679528
You are moving the goalposts.
Don't you notice that?

>>140672001
is there at least one country who in an invasion dont rape the natives? please show proof

>>140679571

Perhaps I should have been clear; Arabia and west has been a disaster for longer than than there has been a United States. Sacking of Baghdad, done. If they were ever in a better condition than they are today, they weren't afterwords.

The Ottomans only come into play if we're discussing Islamic peoples as a whole rather than the cultural groups that currently make up the what we think of as sandniggers. Then the issue becomes a lot more complicated, but the decline of the Ottoman Empire is hard to blame on the West.

>>140679760
The question is not whether they had great empires. The question is if they had countries with laws.

>>140679732

There really isn't. What has to be evaluated is the response to soldiers committing rape and the like, along with the official stance of the country.

>>140679816

Does Sharia Law count?

>>140679888
So long as it's actually enforced and makes for a civil society, of course.

>>140679919
>and makes for a civil society, of course

So it doesn't, then.

>>140679998
How so?

Because afterwards they would have to manage and protect the region by themselves. And that is very expensive. It's cheaper to get the resources after they were already extracted by a colony-like country than to do it by yourself. That's what England did to India, etc.
Not to mention the "preserve the natives" argument that prevents other countries from invading Japan. Is they simply destroy the place and take it for themselves, there is no more moral bullshit argument to keep other countries from doing the same to them.
All of this was explained previously in the series, back when they started negotiating the prisioner exchange, if I'm not mistaken.

The only good thing about this show is how asspained it makes everyone and it's never about anything in the actual show

>>140680083
>Civil Society
>Sharia Law

Both preclude the other.

>>140680184
Not really.

Did watching this anime make anyone else want to enlist? It honestly looks so fun.

>>140680284
Maybe if you're literally retarded, the real world military is nothing at all like GATE

>>140680284
Good goy

>>140676621
>hurr everyone needs the US
>US has been running enormous trade deficits for the past 15 years

Don't kid yourself amerifat

>>140680678
t. yurocuck

Is artillery really so overpowered like in GATE?

>>140678040
>filename
Top kek

>>140681109
Handguns are only so underpowered (and on roughly the same level as during WW2) because of the physical limitations of the human body. You better believe that weaponry that is not carried by humans is fucking insane by comparison.

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>>140680284
>wanting joining because you watched an anime
>thinking the military is anything like the show

>>140681414
>bantering with your bros on the comms while driving around in the humvee, then going to kill shitskins with superior technology because of asymmetric warfare

It's the same thing.

>>140677010

Even if it was 100 million, that's starting from 1492 and continuing past 1900, most of it from uncontrollable spread of disease. Nazis did it all within 10 years.

>>140681602
>going to kill shitskins with superior technology
>then watching your friend getting blown up by a suicide bomber

>>140681605
>believing in the Holocaust

>>140676436
Americans are so full of shit. Yes, your shitty films with the muscled american saving the world while defeating the evil russian terrorists are cringey.
Also is funny how people on gate threads keep reminding about the atrocities in China while America too is build on a genocide

>>140681602
I'm no longer surprised at the stupidity /pol/ spouts anymore.

>>140677549
This is what a cuckservative looks like.

>>140681939
Gate threads bring the worst kind of subhumans.
I don't know, /pol/ gives you some kind prize if you spout the edgiest and most retarded opinions?

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>>140681605
MUH

SIX

BILLION

>>140671841

Do you know how expensive it is to import a labor pool?

It took white guys over 200 years to populate the Americas, and they even had to get help for half of it.

I swear, idiots like you are the reason why we don't have nice things.

>>140671841
Japs are westernized

>>140677997

I'd be more worried about north korea and south korea, since they both hate japan and south korea is just a western-supported dictatorship

>>140676392
Never has a vassal state been treated so well however.

>>140671841
>you will never marry Pina Colada and be her king

>>140679919

>civil society

the problem with Sharia law is that it was so corruptly enforced

>yo opium be haram

>oh shit haram be printing that money out like nothing, yo

>yo farmer, go plant nothing but opium or we rape your daughters

Russia fucked over afghanistan in the 1980s, since they destabilized the already-unpopular communist regime and united all the right-wing militias

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>>140682553

>>140682657
>the problem with Sharia law is that it was so corruptly enforced
You wouldn't catch me calling any of the countries in question good or successful. The question is if they were good enough to actually offer people a life of reasonable security.

>>140682657
>Russia fucked over afghanistan in the 1980s,
And then the US fucked it up completely starting in 2001 for a made-up reason.

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>>140682859

>reasonable security

there was none, prior to 2001 the country was basically no longer a political entity. The government had no control out of Kabul, people were starving, agriculture was dying because no irrigation

what money was being made was flowing into people like Bin Laden: Foreign jihadists who gave no fucks about the region beyond a place to traffic their shit

not to mention crime, you had people getting killed for stealing livestock and over land claims. The taliban were basically thugs who offered "protection" but most of them were basically rejects who couldn't get a better outfit

>>140671841
Because the author has to propaganda the JSDF and being logical is clearly evil and wrong.

>>140671841
kinda ironic with how they wanted to conquest all of asia during the WW2 and doing forced labors on the nation that they've conquered.

Is medieval warfare or modern warfare more traumatizing? In the past there's horrible things like burning oil and you have to fight close quarters. Now guns are a more impersonal way of fighting, but new methods allow destruction on a much bigger scale.

>>140684279
Back then an individual soldier had more agency.
A trauma occurs when you feel helpless and can't deal with the situation.

Shellshock is a modern thing.

>>140684238
The rest of Asia looked inferior after seeing how the White Man gangbanged China and other countries with Opium.

Meanwhile, Japan started beating back the White Man after experiencing success kicking out the Dutch from Taiwan, etc

>>140684238
>conquer
>do forced labor
Might be harder to find nations who never did those than those who did.

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>no more suffering pineapple

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I'm just happy there is a Gate thread!

Pic related, they called President Trump

>>140678686
this is like an anime acting out a typical game of civ

>>140671841
It would give the USA an excuse to re-occupy Japan.

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Reminder Myuute is supposed to be blue

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>>140685997

>>140671841
Liberals

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Not a fan of anime Myuute

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>Gate thread
Aw yeah, let the good times roll.

>>140686989
Not a fan of anime 90% of the cast.

So the anime is shit, right?

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>>140671841
Then they wouldn't get to have a story where beautiful gaijin women fall hopelessly in love with the brave, noble, but humble japanese man

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>>140671841
Nippon stronk! Samuwy stronk! Japanese = giant penis!

>>140686542

So, like, her name is basically Loli Mercury, right?

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>>140691272
>>140691320
Best girl.

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>>140692349
>tfw you'll never be a beefeater

If I was in the Special Region I would not hesitate to rape.

>>140693114
it would have to be a weak girl. The monster girls would rip your dick off.

>>140693516
I'll just say that if they resist and I get injured in any way, my squad will come back and kill her entire family and burn her village to the ground.

>>140671841
Because our entire world would notice the Japanese going on the empire-building warpath again and crush them in 3 days.

>>140693816
Yep. Just like we crushed ISIS in 3 days.

>>140671841
Because the Gate is a temporary phenomenon and maintaining an interdimensional port hole is impossible.

>>140694030
ISIS is a lot stronger than the JSDF, in traditional warfare they would get absolutely slaughtered by the US. ISIS is doing fine because gurella warfare is more effective when you're outnumbered and have less efficient technology

>>140694030
ISIS would be really easy to crush if we wouldn't pretend the general populace isn't aiding them and just started shooting on "civilians".

To be honest, quite a lot of terrorist groups would be simply wiped out if the people they're fighting would be less moral.

>>140673862
>extermination is very expensive
Not really. Nazis did it the hard way with death camps implying it happened lol. A bullet for every zeno costs around $0.25 probably less than a billion zenos on the continent. Cost less than the Japs spend on military every year. Before you say that it costs more than a bullet it obviously does, but it wouldn't be that hard to exterminate.
Do what the Turks did to the Armenians and arm a rival faction and support their slaughter.

>>140685860

LOL

>>140695299
>arm a rival faction and support their slaughter.
Because arming another faction never backfires...

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Best Girl

>>140671841
Because other nations were watching and Japan doesn't want to seem like bullies.

Now we all know what would of happened if it was America that got the Gate.

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>It's an Amerifat gets insecure while watching foreign propaganda episode.

>>140694727
>we
Don't group us together. We should just nuke that place up. Fuck everyone there.

This show would be so much cooler if it was America vs the Savages, I want to see hellfire missiles and sidewinders blowing everything up

The poverty Army of the SDF is ok though, the only good parts of this show is when they fucked up the savages and laid down the freedom

>>140677192
how stupid are they? do they really need a naked whore to tell them to shoot that shit in the eyes, when the skin takes no damage to bullets?
fucking shitbag of anime.

>>140677695
rory looks so stupid.

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Nippon is a beautiful and peaceful country that will always do what is right.
>>140696390
It's all we have, pls no bully.

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>>140698729

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Damn I'm gonna miss gate

>>140695779
>implying we wouldn't arm them with shitty 19th century arms
They aren't the Afghan fighting the Soviet Union. Their opponents haven't even reached the gunpowder age. Hell introduce Earth diseases to the Special region for maximum death.

>>140671841

because hitler and tojo lost

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Bumping with tinselcrotch

>>140700024
Maybe Tojo shouldn't have attacked America.

How do you kill Rory?

>>140696390
Americans in the show or what? I find the propaganda extremely effective anyway.

>>140671841
Not everyone acts like the Americans and Russians

>>140672629
God of Gate are fucking cosmic level entities that can manipulate the course of universe, son.

Your penis yank missiles don't hurt Galactus you cunts

>>140685860
No.
In Civilization it's possible to beat modern units with outdated ones.

>>140699893
>bakedfish