Muv-Luv / Total Eclipse / Schwarzesmarken

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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI

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Best girls.

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>Moderate rebels din du nuffin.
Fuck em

Pastebin of Schwarzesmarken '86 so far and the alternate stories. Putting all this stuff here preemptively in case I get the urge to write later on.

http://pastebin.com/s2JFnkwb
http://pastebin.com/ps1N1bc3

Theo's cassette collection:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRG_5R6fiHfRkrpS3-w2a5n08XHc7BSdU

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>>140594314
Right here
>>140594316
bunch of fags

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>>140594316
Why would they do this.

>>140594512
because whitewash

>>140594027
I like to post bits and pieces here because I'm actually mostly coming up with these as I go and only the '86 main story has something close to being called planning. Good luck by the way.

>>140594031
Yeah I was wondering and getting slightly discouraged desu.

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>>140594263

>Posting Commieshit

>>140594555
You're trips tell me you speak the truth, but can you explain

>>140594586
T-thanks

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>>140594603
>capitalist

>>140594612

He's saying that because the Stasi we portrayed as cartoonishly evil rather than diabolically evil or psychotically evil, that makes them the good guys, and that the Rebels were in the wrong for executing them.

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>>140594603
Yes, so?
>>140594612
>anything, as deceptive words or actions, used to cover up or gloss over faults, errors, or wrongdoings, or absolve a wrongdoer from blame.

The rebels portrayal on the anime was way toned down from the LN

>>140594722
Now this is shitpoting

>>140594722
Still going strong? When will you learn?

>>140594316
Even fucking author was stating that SM is rather grey:

https://twitter.com/uchidahiroki/status/715940630501859329

tfw he embarrassingly admits that Beatrix is like a daughter to him

>>140594612
LN had Suzy forcing Theo to execute Lise or she'd kill him on suspicion of being a traitorous spy. Gretel doesn't like this at all, so her and Suzy get in a big fight where she threatens to torture Gretel for being a loyalist sympathizer. Annete just sits in a corner rocking herself because she's still traumatized from seeing Farka's remains. Meanwhile, Katia learns of all this and rushes off to fix this shitshow. She shows up too late however, and Theo has just finished executing Lise. She breaks down sobbing and Theo feels like even more of a shitbag.

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>>140594206
IM GONNA RUIN YOUR WEDDING LIKE A SPACE BOY WOAH OH.
Takahashi is Dagumi and Ryosuke combined.

>>140594586
Also I like posting here to get feedback from everyone and make changes in the pastebin version based on the feedback. Forgot to mention that.

>>140594847
I'M READY BABE

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>>140594840
Gretel should have BLAM'd Suzy
Gretel route never ;_;

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So if we assume everyone was in the wrong to some extent or another, who was the lesser evil, and why isn't your position incorrect?

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>>140593020
>>140592568
>>140592069
>>140591443
>>140590738
>>140590095
>>140590095

I liked that, it was really cute. I was walking Gretel so I couldn't comment on it until now.

>>140594774
>Yes, so?

Well, Communism IS the very definition of failure.

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>>140594979
Suzy probably has a pretty good reason why she's so fucked up in the head. If she really is Axmann's sister, than that goes a long way to explaining why she was so eager to see Theo kill Lise. She was probably living out her fantasies of revenge by proxy of Theo.

>>140595311
>Communism is nothing for it denies faith

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>>140595311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDmdfOrG3D8

>>140595017
Probably Lise before she went full crazy just because of how apolitical she was.

Alternatively, Jurgen, even if his ideals were misinterpreted by his loved ones.

>>140595224
Th-thanks. Is Gretel okay?

>>140595311
>from having almost no heavy industry to putting the first satellite on space
>failure
ok

>>140595348
>Getting off on seeing Lise executed as a stand in for Axmann

That would be all kinds of messed up.

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>>140595017

Lise was the least evil, everything she did she did to protect her brother. This includes fighting against him as a Werewolf. If she had won, she could have protected him. She was definitely in the right when she sought to defect. Neither Theo nor Lise had any obligation to protect the DDR that they hadn't already fulfilled a thousandfold prior to then.

>>140595348

>Communism is the opiate of the intellectual

>>140595429
Suzy is actually a character I'm very interested in. She's a lot like Beatrix before BIS, in that her past is always hinted at, but never explained.

>>140595471
I was quoting Theo's parting shot to Beatrix.

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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE

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>>140595427

>from having almost no heavy industry to putting the first satellite on space

That's nice.

Who was it that blew up both of their attempted moonshots?

>>140595531

I know. I was quoting an unquestionably valid criticism of communism in case you were using it ironically.

>>140595410

She's staring at me while I rub her tummy. I even let her take off her collar when we got back inside.

>>140595590
I don't like communism, but in that case it was ironic.

>>140595427
>>140595590

Gotta love how every single argument about political systems devolves into the inevitability of bringing the space race card. It's become an entirely new Godwins Law

>>140595646
Please don't bully my Commissar.

>>140595590
Because the N1 was designed by Wile E Coyote

also, the americans had to be the first at something once in a while

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>>140595311

C-communism will work if we follow my special version of it

>>140595698
>bringing the space race card
Is that a bad thing?

>>140595698

It's just the most dramatic. The massive shortages, poor standards of living, inherent tenancy toward brutal repression, systemic corruption, shit quality of life, shit quality of everything else, and so forth just get a lot more complicated.

>>140595649

Perhaps a much better way of restating a large part of the problem would be:

>Communism is nothing for it denies morality

>>140595749

False. I'm supporting real communism, no one else has ever tried that.

>>140595742
>also, the americans had to be the first at something once in a while

What about the atom bomb, or computers, or the hydrogen bomb?

>>140595795

The Reds know they can't win that point, so they try to frame the argument to exclude it. They do that a lot.

>>140596043
>atom bomb
Germans
>computers
Germans

But you are right about the H bomb

>>140596181
>atom bomb
Germans

That's funny.

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>>140596043
>What about the atom bomb, or computers, or the hydrogen bomb?

First one to field a intermediate cartridge in large scale
>inb4 muh 7.62x39 aint intermediate
Yet it is.

First one to field a IFV that swims in large scale.

Built the largest nuke in the world.

First one to rape germans in large scale and cuck them for the post cold war era.

Experts in deporting and sending people to the far east and gulags.

Supports marxist groups around the world in very big scale and laid roots that still exist in the western world.

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Iris, Beatrix, Jurgen and the baby are over at your place, huddling around Lise at the kitchen table. Well, Iris, Beatrix and Jurgen are huddled around Lise. You're sitting on couch keeping the baby occupied.

"So you're saying that we're actually making a fair bit of money?"

"Yeah, we have a couple videos with over 100,000 views, so the ad revenue is trickling in."

"Why haven't I seen any of it?"

"Iris, you weren't in any of the videos. You were the one who only wanted to do a still photoshoot, there's a lot less revenue in those."

Jurgen interrupts, "So, anyway, tell us about what you just bought."

Lise has some electronics sitting in front of her, which she has set up in some sort of way you don't really understand. Every time someone goes in to touch one of the things she has, she swats away their hands.

"Well, I picked up a couple GoPro Hero2 cameras. used off of ebay"

"What do you need two for?"

"3D recording."

Lise picks up the cameras and mounts them on a special bracket.

"There's a lot of people starting to make VR headsets, and people are going to start using smartphones to do that kind of thing, too. Once we get this stuff configured, we'll be able to make 3d recordings of out cosplay that people can pay to watch."

"Why?" Irisdina isn't sure how she feels about this.

"I don't know. People like breasts."

"No, I mean why are we doing this?"

"So we can meet the writers of the Muv-Luv series again."

Iris looks at Lise, quizzically. She was never really on board with the idea that the world they came from might bear more than coincidental resemblance to the world depicted in that series. She looks like she's about to say something, when Lise cuts her off.

"I need to find out what happened to my brother."

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNTx6ZogBbY

>>140596553
Oh boy. I wonder when original trilogy and Total Eclipse characters will start showing up.

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>>140596430
>First one to field a intermediate cartridge in large scale
>First one to field a IFV that swims in large scale.

Both of these are more matters of performance and necessity than they are of any sort of technical, economic, or scientific competence.

>Built the largest nuke in the world.

Call me back when you can deliver it on target.

In any case, the B41 had a far better yield-to-weight ratio (5.2 kt/kg vs 3.7 kt/kg) and managed that with a quarter of the yield - which makes it better, because everything with nukes gets easier if you're willing to throw enough mass at the problem.

>First one to rape germans in large scale and cuck them for the post cold war era.

If you're willing to throw enough bodies at it, you can solve any problem.

>Supports marxist groups around the world in very big scale and laid roots that still exist in the western world

Still existing only counts as an accomplishment because they lost.

>Experts in deporting and sending people to the far east and gulags.

Now, this sounds likes more of a downside compared to non-shit governments.

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>>140596553
>Lise is a camwhore

Well she knows what men like and is trained to use it so makes sense. I woulda figured actress considering her theater background, but I guess they do tend to have humble beginnings.

>>140597119
>Both of these are more matters of performance and necessity than they are of any sort of technical, economic, or scientific competence.

Nigga you what?

>>140597119
>Call me back when you can deliver it on target.
No need. Target still gets destroyed.

>If you're willing to throw enough bodies at it, you can solve any problem.
Not their fault that they were bigger then the germans. Also loss ratio depends on which author you are using and how said author counted.

>>140596553
Cute. Alternate Hiroki and Kouki are probably tweeting their cosplays around.

>>140597184
Beatrix and Lise would both be amazing actors if they wanted to get into it.

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>>140597184

It's a follow on to an idea she came up with during <Lise on suicide watch> and then followed through on in <Lise Hohenstein, Cosplay Queen> and later on again in <Friends?>

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uMN28GtT68ZPP2gS2Tq5Ipm4yw_odDBLpS3qM_camg/edit?usp=sharing

I've written a lot in this setting.

>>140597374

I'm saying that multiple countries in the free world developed better lighter, heavier, and much heavier cartridges, rapid fire automatic weapons, and so forth, or built better armored vehicles, APCs/IVFs, and amphibious combat vehicles. The fact that they didn't build those specific niche things first is because there was no need for them.

Also, if 7.62 counts as an intermediate cartridge, then your forgetting about the 7.92×33mm Kurz, which wasn't produced in the same quantity as dirt but has it beat by a solid five years.

>>140597589

Not if the missile can't reach outside your own territory with the thing on it. Overall, it was an inefficient, wasteful weapon that severed no practical purpose other than dick-waving; the fact that you need a higher yield is simply demonstrating that your missiles aren't as good.

>>140596553
>"I need to find out what happened to my brother."

[Nervous laughter]

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>>140597906
But we were talking about who did what first now did we (and some other strange shit)?

>free world developed better
Of course they are gona do that, otherwise they are gona lose to the commies. The question is how long it would take for them to do so.

The Soviets fielded 3 different tanks in the time the murricans were stuck with the M-60 after the MBT70 failure. Soviets fielded the BMP-1 when the burgers were stuck with the m113. A vehicle which they considerd to be superior over their own. You can talk about oh how they built better vehicles then the soviets did in the 60's but that is not that much of a good thing when the soviets are already fielding the next generations of AFV's.

For everyone else in NATO then the situation is not looking good.

>Also, if 7.62 counts as an intermediate cartridge
Well it does and the very first intermediate cartridge is the jap 6.5 which was used in the federov automat. (which was before the commies and was probably less scale then the 7.62 kurz)

Hence why I said large scale.

We need drawfags for these stories. We really do.

>>140599060
Now that you mention it, we had zero drawfags

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>>140599213
There was one

>>140599271
What happened to him?

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>>140596553

Oddly enough, Lise had never actually told Iris about the reason why she was taking her cosplay habit so seriously. Iris knew she was into it, like, really into it, and had even travelled to Japan once before with Beatrix in order to cosplay at an event for the franchise, but she never knew what Lise's endgame was. In fact, she never even realized Lise had an endgame.

"I... I thought you just did this because you like the attention."

"Ha! No. This is way too much work for that kind of thing. In any case, I'm not stupid. I'm taking a huge risk having any sort of online presence, just like you are. I'm not going to be my own IM informer just for fun."

"Work?"

"There's the photo shoots, of course, and thinking up ways to recycle the same old content, Me looking pretty in my standard issue uniform, gets pretty hard pretty quickly. Of course, I can't just let everybody start posing with me, since I need to make sure I'm the one getting the plane tickets."

She holds up her hand, pointing to various fingers as she covers basic aspects of her business model.

"Also, I needed to learn how to do the photography aspect of it, not to mention the post processing. It doesn't matter if I'm the hottest Lise Hohenstein cosplayer in the world, which I obviously am, if all my pictures look like dogshit."

"You sound pretty full of yourself right now."

"I'm not wrong, though. Anyway, most importantly, I needed to learn Japanese, so that I could actually communicate in the language of my target audience. Finally, I needed to actually learn how to promote myself so that people would notice me. Which sites to post on, which trolls to antagonize, all that bullshit."

"You've... you've put a heck of a lot of thought into this."

"Of course I have!" Lise seems to be getting frustrated that Iris still doesn't get it. "If only dead people can cross over, I need to know he's dead. If he's not dead, he can't cross over. You already got your brother back. I want mine, too."

>>140599382
dunno

He just said he got inspired by some anons post.

>>140599424
RIP Theo

>>140599424
Do bad ends count for the Matress Gods, because there's several places where Theo can die within the first VN.

>>140599060
That'd be pretty cool. How many active stories do we have so far. I count three.

>Healing Anon
>Punished Theo
>Schwarzesmarken '86

Anything I'm missing?

>>140599643
There was a project for a gigantic re-write of the whole Schwarzesmarken where lise escaped to west germany and cia stuff was going on.

Theo was not a normal NVA pilot etc.

But it got crashed.
>inb4 why
Dunno I dont know.

>>140599531

I've considered that. Honestly, the biggest issue Lise is running into is the fact that for the time being, I think that her trying to get Theo to cross over is far more interesting than actualy letting her succeed. Also, it will probably close a lot of doors and I'll have to write about Theo for like 20-30 pages which I am pretty much not interested in doing right now.

So Lise's main problem is that the Mattress Gods enjoy playing with her.

It would be interesting if she got the Theo that was shot by Gretel or eaten by a Grappler after murdering Katia

>What do you mean I rejected you? I haven't seen you since we got arrested.

>>140599643
I might actually do something productive tomorrow and write
But I make no promise
I hate myself


>>140599725
They realized that Theo will became just another mary sue MC

>>140599894
The artillery strike death would be the best place if you wanted to use a Bad End Theo.

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>>140599894
Well everyone so far has come from the LN no? Then perhaps thats the true "canon" as the source material and thus where their spirits come from.

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>EXTRA BETA™ SOON FELLOW EISHIS!

honestly I read all 3 novels in less than 2 weeks, how in the hell does a professional translation by a team of many people take over 6 months

>>140599982
Ganbarre

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>>140600186
It's the curse of Age

>>140600242
Th-thanks

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpp208_pink-floyd-the-final-cut-film-complete-1983_music

Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is THE soundtrack, comrades.
He`s now working on his next album about interdimensional matress travel - when he`s not busy calling out the jew.

Also, commissar Gretel and Martin were lucky to attend to the last concert of the Puhdys https://youtu.be/7FCWNS02jP4

But you can't forget the classics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6ZtGpSH4g

>>140599982

Theo's got a lot of punishment, but once he sees the urn he'll probably be feeling better.

Until they get to the big fight. Theo's all jazzed up that Lise and her new beau are screaming and fighting until suddenly, they're not anymore.

Then he dreams about the quickie in the bathroom and wakes up and his suit is all sticky

Annett simultaneously has a dream of Farka sitting, staring at the TV, watching <HDMI 2> and wondering what is taking Lise so long in the bathroom

They share a look of horror and confusion

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>>140594840

>ベアトリクスについて。ベアトリクスは連載中の「隻影のベルンハルト」のメインヒロイン（！）なので詳しくは語れないのですが、彼女の目指した理想もひとつの筋の通った回答だと思います――正しいかどうかは別として。
About Beatrix. Beatrix is the main heroine of Bernhard in the Shadows. Because of this, I won't say much, but [I will say] that the ideals she aimed for were not wrong -- she was correct, as were the others (he'd been talking about Iris and Katia before hand).

>ベアトリクスは『隻影のベルンハルト』を読むとある意味、悲劇のヒロインに思えてきちゃいます。もしユルゲンが生きてたらと思うと…
After reading "Bernhard in the Shadows", [I have to conclude] that Beatrix is a very tragic heroine. I wish Jurgen was still alive...

>各ヒロイン（＆テオ）の解説、とても感慨深く読ませていただきました。
>ベアトリクスに関しては隻影のこれからが待ち遠しい様な、読むのが怖い様な……
>ヒロイン解説、もし宜しければ（アニメで妙にお尻が強調されていて）キルケもお願いいたします。
Each heroine (and Theo) analyses I read was very emotional [for me].
I look forward to reading the rest of Sekiei, but fear what's in store for Beatrix.
If you do any more heroine commentary, could you do one on Kirke too (the anime bizarrely emphasized her ass).

>>140600972
So the heroines are Iris, Katia and Beatrix, right?

>>140601159

Beatrix is the person with ideas, not Lise. Lise doesn't care in the slightest who has the best Ideas, she's just absolutely loyal to Theo and Beatrix, and unfortunately those two loyalties are in conflict.

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Great jihad against BETA when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKli72vTPmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRgMUm98lkA

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>>140601159
>>140601249
Lise is totally a heroine.

>>140601446
She is going to get a route in Martyrs so it's pretty much confirmed for heroine

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>>140599271
>>140599382
>>140599503
I really do like healanon's stories and a few ideas did come to mind, but I'm afraid I can't keep up since I draw too slow.

>>140601583
Better than anything rushed

>>140600085

They get most of their characterization from the light novels, but I still haven't decided whether the events leading to their deaths mimic the light novels exactly. Lise never talked about how she died, for obvious reasons. Only that Theo rejected her. (Which might not have happened when she died. "Where is Irisdina Bernhard" probably broke her hardest.)

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>>140601583
Nothing wrong with taking your time. You don't have to keep up just draw whatever parts inspire you.

Analyses on Katia - https://twitter.com/uchidahiroki/status/715936863064686592

Can't find Iris right now, but I know she got an analyses (Basically, Hiroki claiming her as his waifu).

ベア様は本当はもっともっと素敵なキャラクターなのですよっ。
大切な人の想いを叶えるために自分なりのやり方や信念を貫こうとしていて。
正しさを守り抜いていて。
凄い方なのです。

>>140601583

Don't worry about trying to keep up with me, but if i inspire you to draw more Lise then that's all i could ask for.

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>>140601691
>ベア様は本当はもっともっと素敵なキャラクターなのですよっ。
>大切な人の想いを叶えるために自分なりのやり方や信念を貫こうとしていて。
>正しさを守り抜いていて。
>凄い方なのです。

Let's see if I can't do this. It get's rather flowery, so some of the lines (like the second) may be off.

The more I learn the truth about Bea, the more and more lovely she grows.
Her thoughts and actions were always in accordance with fulfilling the ideals of her most cherished person.
She was righteous in a way.
A truly amazing person.

>>140601626
>>140601685
>>140601749
Thanks guys, though at this rate my pixiv is gonna be stacked with Lise

>>140601691
Wow, poor Katia gets absolutely no discussion compared to Beatrix.

>>140601945
I guess the Japanese are as susceptible to waifu blindness as the rest of us are. I like Beatrix, but that's hardly how I'd describe her.

>>140601945
She is a real human bean
>>140601968
Lise fan art on pixiv is going up

>>140602036
At least Katia gets mentioned

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>>140601968
>at this rate my pixiv is gonna be stacked with Lise

You're welcome

>>140601159
Beatrix is a main heroine, but she isn't Theo's heroine.

>>140602099
That's why she is going to get a secret route

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I want to unbully Lise.

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>>140602445
>unbully

>>140602445
Go for it man whats stopping you

>>140602124
Yes, it's called BiS.

>>140600253
>>140601756
Why does he have such long hair? Is he into heavy metal or something?

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>>140594206
How does a man who pilots a space shuttle manage to dodge supersonic levels of lasers and have the biggest balls to sacrifice himself for humanity?


His a space boy

>>140602634
>implying there won't be one in Martyrs
Why do think they are delaying it

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>>140600972
>(the anime bizarrely emphasized her ass)

What's
wrong
with
that
?

>>140602678
An unsung hero

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>>140602044
>Lise fan art on pixiv is going up

Yeah, I see my stuff get shared here occasionally even though I'm not that good, it makes me happy.

>>140602678
>supersonic levels of lasers
A laser is a laser

You cant dodge that if we follow the rules of reality. But you can stay out of the way.

>>140602699
They're delaying it because Kouki sucks at time management. Beatrix isn't getting a route and will probably die at the end no matter what. She'll likely be the final boss in most of the routes, as she's the most skilled and terrifying pilot in SM and the only one capable of giving Theo a badass final fight (unless it's Iris's route where it's just a pitiful execution).

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>>140602788
oh you're that guy? shit man I like you.

more confidence doesn't hurt.

>>140602788
>Lise dressed as Prinz Eugen
I never knew I wanted that.

>>140602835
>not hoping for a Beatrix route

pls

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>>140600972
So how do all the people who say Beatrix was irredeemably wrong and is evil by nature counter this? I mean, you have not just Japanese LN readers, but the author himself saying that she wasn't necessarily a bad person, just in very shitty circumstances.

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>>140594314

>>140602967
>not hoping for a BiS VN
ishygddt

>>140602978
female hitler hurr durr

Like that

>>140603015
>not wanting both

negro please

Bully Gretel everyday!

>>140602913
>more confidence

Aye will get that once I can start drawing more risque Lise

>>140602946
The two cutest German girls, no?

>>140603420
You better get that confidence soon

>>140603420
I'm more of a Bismarck-fag, but Prinz is very cute.

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>>140602946
>>140603420
>>140603555

What's the best way to make Gretel pout?

>>140599060
We gotta move these stories to 2ch. Maybe those jappos might be inspired to draw something

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>>140603960
2chan still hasn't recovered from the ending of SM.

It's still a cesspit of Farkaposting, Gretel/Beato/Iris waifu battles, and TE vs SM shitposting. They basically never moved past our first couple of weeks.

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>>140603906
Take her glasses and crush them underneath your boot.

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>>140602445

"Brother! Big brother!!"

She calls for Theo over and over, voice echoing through the snowy woods, but the boy is nowhere to be found. Keeping above the snow proves difficult for the tiny girl as every step plunges her deeper into a seemingly never ending icy hole. A sledding trip turns unexpectedly south when the toboggan she shared with him sped down the snowy slope a little faster than expected veering dangerously off course, knocking the taller Theo off with a heavy tree branch to the face and carrying Lise way past the supervised area of the resort. Clinging to the runaway sled for dear life ended with her projectile hurdled into a snow bank, forming a neat imouto shaped hole in the otherwise undisturbed frost.

Too afraid to move as every shift in the ice sinks her lower past the surface and voice raw from crying out, she curls up in the fetal position and hopes the snow may be merciful and freeze her into a little blonde popsicle before a bear comes along for dinner. On cue with her fears she hears the shuffling feet of a large animal coming nearer. Stuck in a hole, cold, and assuredly soon to be eaten, Lise wonders what the corpse will look like if ever found. She hoped Theo wouldn't be the first.

The beast approaches ever nearer, and now she can hear it just beyond sight. A shadow casts down into her frosty prison and an unexpected familiar voice, sweeter sounding at that moment than any angel she could imagine, starts to call out to her before bursting in an uncomfortably accusatory fit of laughter. She sees her older brother up there, unable to form words in his mouth without cracking up. The sight of her seven feet deep and covered head to toe in white powder made her look like a little baby seal stuck in a poorly made igloo. The big watery eyes that start to well up when she realizes she's being laughed at only serve to enhance the pristine image. He silently thanks God for such a sight, only wishing he had the means to take a picture.

>>140604243

So you're saying they never healed

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>>140604243

>>140604243
Those poor bastards.

>>140604243
I love how this thread parallels Schwarzesmarken. The Beatrixfags and Irisfags fought among themselves, never realizing the true danger readying itself to pounce, that of the Tortilla Chipfags, ready to consume them all irregardless of their waifu.

>>140603420

We'll say nice things about you if you give us nekkid Lise. Then you get more confidence and we get more Lise titties.

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>>140604243
So why is it that I only ever seem to see Iris, Beatrix, and occasionally Gretel and Lise on 2chan?

>>140604626
I want to boop Katia's nose.

>>140604282

Cute, but snow and ice aren't the same thing, and when I read it I had trouble telling if she had broken through a pond or something.

Also tree wells can be nearly as deadly as avalanches. the year I worked at a ski hill we had one dead guy in a tree well under the chairlift, versus 3 dead guys just outside the robe in a back country avalanche. He fell in head first, couldn't get out and suffocated.

>>140604243
>they feel the pain of strike frontier never
we aren't that different it seems

>>140604243
The ride never ends.

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>>140594314

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>>140604243
Where are these from? I see some funny stuff going on.

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>>140604282
>>140604802

Now if we really want to get technical here, the snow would be powder when she crashes into it, and packed when she moves around, causing it to settle. Crud is also a good term for heavy, wet snow that is especially difficult to fight through.

When the show settles, it becomes much denser and eventually, such as after an avalanche, can become as hard as cement after it stops moving. Not an issue for Lise in this case of course, she just would have to worry about hypothermia and suffocation if she fell in head first and couldn't get out.

I know I'm taking this way too seriously, but I don't get to share what I know about falling in snow very often so I have to jump on it when I do.

>You will never poke Lise with your probe

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>>140604802
>>140606021
Neat. I've never been to the snow and based that off peripheral knowledge, sorry for the confusing terms. Its just fun to contribute something new on occasion when the threads are slow.

>>140606013
Theres quite a few untranslated comics floating around.

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>>140606226
>Laser-fort Gretel

>>140605604
I'm surprised we're still having threads. Feels like doing something naughty and getting away with it.

>>140606327
>I'm surprised we're still having threads.
It is a circle jerk right now (at this moment).

>>140606226

Yeah, I appreciate it, it was fun to read about Lise's imagination running wild after getting dumped in a snowbank. That part I can see happening, at least. I ski, but with toboggans, it's pretty hard to stop or steer, so you end up in some interesting places.

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>>140606356
Everyones asleep. I think its cozy.

>>140606312
Speaking of BETA Gretel that browser game on their site still hasn't had an update. Next stage when.

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>>140606356
>>140606568
Time to let go guys

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>>140604802
>we had one dead guy in a tree well under the chairlift, versus 3 dead guys just outside the robe in a back country avalanche. He fell in head first, couldn't get out and suffocated.

Thats disturbing. Tell me more

>>140602967
We all know that no matter what route you take, they're all gonna be different flavors of suffering. It all depends on which waifus you're most willing to sacrifice for other waifus.

>>140606226
>シュヴァルツェスマーケン後編雇乞うご期待！

'With anticipation for SM's second part(VN)'
Though rumors on jp boards that its only going to be out in winter.

>>140607103
>Polish goddess
;_;

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>>140577282
Was at work, so missed most of the last thread.

I have a delicious path to take this in, so all is well.

And thanks for giving additional suffering material healinganon. And thanks for getting on track other writefag who's started.

>>140602967
Just believe!

>>140599060
>>140603960
We've needed drawfags since these threads started. Most dr/a/wanons will viscerally give any and all reasons to not draw ML.

We're stuck with what we have alas.

I'm not even sure Jappos know we exist.

>>140604289
Have you really healed?

REALLY healed?

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>>140607046
>Let go
Muv-luv never dies? Did they not teach you that?

Rhodeisan light infantry laserjagd when?

>>140607732
Only if they do it in Helos instead of TSFs.

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>>140599424

A few days later, Inghild is sitting at the kitchen table with her baby, sharing a pot of coffee with Lise. Marco is making pretty decent money, so Inghild is able to go to school part time and spend the rest of the time with her daughter. It would be a bit lonely and boring, except that most of her friends work fairly irregular work schedules, so she usually has someone to chat with on any given day. It means she's also become something of a gossip, but she's a sweet girl who never has a bad thing to say about anyone, so it's not like anyone minds. She just always seems to know what everybody else is up to at any given time. Lise stops her mid conversation - apparently Farka has a second job interview today - and gets up out of her seat, standing behind Inghild.

"Don't mind me, I just want to see something."

Inghild seems a little bit confused, until Lise unties the ribbons holding her hair in twintails. Lise combs out the hair with her fingers, before using one of the while ribbons to tie Inghild's hair back into a ponytail. Inghild is now very confused.

"Lise, what are you doing?"

"Ehehe... just brain storming."

She pulls an old rain drop jacket off the peg, and drapes it over Inghild's shoulders, before stepping back, and gazing at the girl through a frame mede by her thumbs and forefingers. She's talking to herself.

"Well, her bust is a little on the large side, but that's not really a bad thing. Her hair and eye color are pretty well spot on, though..."

Inghild looks up at the girl staring at her

"What are you talking about?"

"Inghild, how would you like to pose for some pictures this weekend?"

>>140604282
>an unexpected familiar voice, sweeter sounding at that moment than any angel she could imagine, starts to call out to her
And this is here that Lise started her descent as a Theofag.

>>140602978
Death of the Author, moralfaggotry, etc.

>>140607103

The guy under the chair was a snowboarder who fell in a tree well. His legs were pinned to the same board, so he was stuck upside down and couldn't even wriggle himself upright. Sometimes, people can right themselves inside the tree well, but the can't climb out because the snow around them is too soft, kind of like what Lise seems to have been experiencing in the story. Often however, they'll just suffocate. It's an especially bad problem in the PNW because of the volume of heavy, wet snow we get.

If you like reading long-ass stories, here's one about the three guys who died in the avalanche. That was not a fun day to be at work.

http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2012/snow-fall/#/?part=tunnel-creek

>>140607962
When does Katia show up to moeify the household?

No more weekly Eberubaha-san.

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>>140607046
>Time to let go guys
thats hard

especially when talking about muv luv

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>>140594314
Wrong

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>>140608356
>That filename

>>140607962
It begins. Lise has embraced /cgl/.

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>>140607962
It really is crazy if you think about it. This cute little blonde girl is actually a Stasi-trained spy and is plotting out her entire cosplay career in order to influence the direction of a well-known Japanese light novel.

Also, there is one thing missing from this entire thing: Lise asking anon what he thinks about this entire plan. I mean, it's not like he would object to it (the quite opposite, he'd totally support it if it helps Lise and makes her happy). But given the current state of their relationship, they should be at the level where they talk about these things.

Just my take though.

>>140608356
It's not lying though. It's telling you to save in the name of love, but it never said that it was possible.

>>140608519
You can completely take the girl out of the stasi, but you can't completely take the Stasi out of the girl.
Especially since the whole dress like a whore get benis thing still works in burgerland and teenage girls do it all the time.

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>started Unlimited
>Sumika missing everywhere
>new character named Kasumi

I guess that is not very subtle

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>>140608801

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>>140608519

They did talk about it, see >>140597758


Her plan immediately prior to cosplay was killing herself in the hope that maybe then she'll see Theo again. Anon likes the cosplay idea better

>>140594206
So if I am to understand this correctly, there's some stupid boring VN which has a secret unlockable ending or something which gives you save data that lets you continue in some alternate history where the germans made mecha?
And then they made anime about those bits?
That's pretty cool.

>>140608801
You are in for quite the ride brother.

>>140608854
>>140608958
Don't spoil, but my guess is:
Sumika is the brain-thing in the room.

>>140608938
The Yanks invented the Mecha, the rest just copied and modified them until they developed their own. Hell, the Germans only have variants of foreign mechs or joint projects with other countries, no true domestic Mecha in ML.

>>140608990
Smart lad

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>>140608879
Yeah, I recall. But that was back then when the only plan she had in mind was trying to force them to create a happy ending (and she had to be dissuaded from applying Stasi methods). Succeeded promoting them to go ahead with a fan disc if I recall. But this is different. Now it seems, if what she says >>140599424 is any indication, that she wants to make Theo cross over.

...of course, that would require him dying.

anon: "Lise, you do realize that for Theo to cross over, you're essentially going to have to get him killed, right?

>>140608938
>boring VN
>boring

Oh child, if you only knew...

I want to teach Lise to use /int/ and /pol/

>>140609186
Would she even be a fan of /pol/

>>140608801
>falling for that diversion

kek

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>>140608356
those words beneath the muv luv feels like a mockery eve now

>>140609203
>>140609186
I'm not seeing it.

I AM seeing Gretel posting on (4+4)chan's /leftypol/ though.

>>140609357
What does /leftypol/ even do
Is it just muh marx muh lenin all day or is it liberal SWEDEN YES shit?

>>140609203

She'd be pretty virulently anticommunist, at the very least, and given her high school career, to say no mention of her experience of the Stasi, would probably deliberately antagonize self-appointed thought police for fun.

Remember, she got her drama club shut down for making fun of the State too much.

>>140609143

Unless he is on a refugee spaceship, if he's in the Muv Luv world in 2016, dying is the kindest thing that can happen to him. If he's on a refugee ship, he needs to die for the sake of the refugees' safety unless he isn't the master after all

>>140609398
Wouldn't Lise be a top tier troll? I mean, Axmann would be better since historically speaking the Stasi literally trolled people into psychological submission and Axmann is apparently one of the better people in SM for interrogation and being a #smoothcriminal
Imagining her shitposting makes me hard

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>>140609327
Not really, living in a crapsack world is hell. So instead of suffering, then it would be better to let them know true peace by desu

>>140609439

Try to imagine Lise for a moment after discovering MTFOB or TITP on Tumblr.

>>140609595
I don't even know what those are. Why do you know what they are?

>>140609388
Actually, they generally hold contempt for the SJW left and wish usher back in the glorious socialist revolution.

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>>140609620

Because it's the easiest way to laugh at the mundane horror of life in a postmodern society, and if I don't laugh, I'm going to cry.

>>140609713
What the FUCK
>thin privilege
Is this a thing? Even with 'whyte privilege' you can argue that you can't specifically change what you are but all you have to do is stop being a fucking pig and move your fat ass and you can be ''thin''

>>140609713
>DOGS can now discriminate against fatasses
>even though they might've just been tired or something
>even when this is completely your fault for being physically unable to run
>even when you can change this fact by not being a shitter
Wew lad

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>>140609823
Onii-chan, trust me, you don't want to know how mentally ill these people are.

Don't say I didn't warn you:
http://phg.sagepub.com/content/early/2016/01/08/0309132515623368.abstract
Your tax dollars paid for this, by the way.

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>>140609916
>Chinese Tax money went to Tumblr

>>140609916

Worse, It was published using my tax dollars AND it's kept behind a paywall by a journal that played essentially no role in carrying out the research and isn't going to give any sort of royalties to the university or the researchers.

At least Oregon's football team ended up getting Lise'd all season.

Strike Frontier when

>>140611280
next week there will be an announcement that it's canceled

So, how many of you actually finished the SM VN until today?

>>140600365
Watersmind never sleeps!

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>>140607962

"I...You...What?"

It's the evening after you took some pictures of Inghild and Lise posing and looking the part of a pair of adorable imoutos. Apparently, Inghild is just now starting to realize that Lise intended to have her pretend to be another member of the 666th, one that she had never met before.

"Why can't I just be me? Am I not good enough?"

Inghild looks hurt, but Lise pats the girl's head and tries to reassure her, "No, no. You're too good. This way, you don't have to use your real name when you're posing."

"Everyone else uses their real name..."

"Yeah, but that's not necessarily a good thing. We're just lucky we've all been given alternate identities, otherwise we wouldn't be doing this sort of thing. This way, your identity is more secure. You're safer."

"You mean this isn't safe?"

Lise laughs nervously "No, no, it's perfectly safe. I think. You didn't get rid of your PM, right?"

Inghild shakes her head.

"Ok, good. You're perfectly safe."

"But I still don't like pretending to be someone else."

"You aren't pretending to be someone else. Katia Waldheim never existed, remember? It's just a made-up name. Inghild Bronikowski can be Katia Waldheim just as truthfully as Ursula Strachwitz can be Katia Waldheim, right?"

"I guess..."

Lise leans in close. It's clear that while she does care about the young mother's feelings, she's also falling back on her training to make absolutely sure Inghild knows she cares.

"Inghild~ It's not about what you want, or I want, it's about what those horrible fans of ours want. We'll give them what they want, and we'll get plane tickets, and then we'll get to see Theo again. Maybe Annett, too."

It's clear that Inghild isn't totally sold on how this plan is going to work, or if it's going to work at all, but she would like to see Annett and Theo again, so after thinking about it for a moment, she nods, and a shy smile begins to spread across her face, starting with her eyes.

>>140611386
>finished the SM VN
Wait the whole thing is out now?

>tfw SM VN is all ages
>tfw TE VN is all ages
>tfw best female designs get no porn

>>140611463
Oh God Lise what are you doing.

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>>140611333
shut up fag

>>140611620
Bullshit, of course. Healing devolved.

>>140611620
Just having fun with imouto #3

>>140611463
>"Inghild~ It's not about what you want, or I want
> or I want

Lise you demon ;p.

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It's time

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>>140611280
Obligatory post cause you know the answer to that already, anon.

>>140611463
Why is Inghild so beautiful?

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>>140612326

>>140612408
Nice! I laughted at that one.

>>140612400
Junkfrau Inghild is of noble blood.

>>140612460
Mein got she is related to Otto motherfucking von Bismarck.

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>>140603271
Insubordinate, you'll wish you'd be sent to the Kolyma instead.

>>140612619
Theo should have been executed by Anett for fucking up.

>>140612677
Don't shift the blame, if she was not muh PTSD then Inghild wouldn't have died during this scene at least.

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>>140603271
>>140612676

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>>140608938
Oh brother, that's the tip of the iceberg.

Also, Murricans made the first mecha that would become TSFs (the Lunar walker, originally for lifting and building shit on the Moon). It's not like they're super duper speshul, despite the image the ML media puts on otherwise.

They basically replaced fighter jets because of things like the Laser class appearing. They're actually a step down from what humanity had before, in terms of battlefield coverage. The idea is to try to retain as much mobility as possible that fighter planes had allowed. TSFs are however, just one part of combined arms.

>>140612619
von Bismarck isn't a big noble house though.

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>>140609398
Dying would be the kindest, but it wouldn't be the right thing. Theo has much to atone for, it came too late for many people, but he's finally found something he wants to fight for.

Mankind.

>>140609620
>>140609823
>being this unbroken to the horror that is SJWism

You don't want to know how far the rabbit hole goes anon.

But change is coming. America is going to be great again, and Axmann will be at the forefront doing his part to deprogram the infection.

>>140613360
Doesn't the Rabbit Hole go down literally forever? That or Alice was high on weed or something, we'll never know.

>>140611620
Anything and everything to get onii-chan.

>>140613334
He was a Prussian junker, I don't know the families standing amongst the nobles but he was at least wealthy and nobility.

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>>140613226
>just one part of combined arms.
And a shitty one, lacking the same weapons that real jets had in ground attack role and unable to perform maximum in the ground attack role or SEAD.

And the rest of the combined teams are just straight up horrible. Not a single bit being optimised, designed or used as if they were fighting the BETA when you dont count the artillery firing special anti laser smoke.

So if anyone here is because they think they are gona watch danke combined arms warfare and humanity going cold war wild in designs then no. Just no. There is nothing here to enjoy except the girls, human drama, suffering, epic moments and feels.

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>>140610836
It had already failed, lad. But it did bear one thing - Arabian unity, in a way.

>>140607962
>>140611463
>using Inghild as a Katia stand in

She can never catch a break, can she?

>>140613442
Well yeah, I mean you missed the discussion about how the BETA would've probably been stuck in Kashgar and fucked sideways but everyone knows that the humans in SM are retarded.

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>>140613478
Yeah there is that.

Why cant we make the BETA great again?

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>>140613495
Because this guy doesn't take his job seriously.

>>140613532
Why should he? It's a small class M planet with carbon based niggers who like killing eachother inhabiting it.

>>140613532
You know I've been wondering
Can suffering and shit only exist in low powerlevel worlds, or is it just more conducive to suffering and muh horrors of war?
Shit like the BETA / Kyojin / whatever are so low powerlevel compared to a lot of other stories after all.
The humans need to figure out a way to materialize anime, they'd blow any alien the fuck out at that point
BETA can't do shit against Pendex or Goku

>>140613620
You can't get much more powerlevel than Demonbane and that practically serves suffering for every breakfast with mandatory consumption.

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>>140613532
How many years have it been?

How fast would it take to go into warmode if humanity was not retarded?

Im pretty sure beta-kun wont be able to jump start the laserfort-class project due to how small his hive would be so what kind of designs woule we get? Would it be >>140613495 or hordes of tank class with eyes that fire plasma balls? Destroyer class with wings? Upside down grapplers for increased chance to hit the broad side of a barn inside it?

>>140613646
Demonbane doesn't really have a powerlevel in the usual sense though.
I just want to see BETA getting BTFO by other anime characters I'm a sucker for mismatched crossovers
I want to see Madara colony drop a hive
I want to see Accelerator literally send the BETA back to space
I want to see Aizen make the BETA shoot each other and then eat their own heads
I want to see Issei BOOSTO on them
pls no bully

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>>140612677
>>140612751
Don't you both get it? They both fucked up, and they know it. They have different ways of dealing with it, that is all.

Theo doesn't like Anette in PTSD mode, because deny it as he might, he's just as broken as she is.

>>140613442
Well for the most part - real jets in the fighter role didn't have that many ground attack weapons, and things like bombs and munitions need to be too high to be dropped, hence useless for anything less than strategic and tactical bombers.

SEAD has very little application, if not useage, as humans are mostly fighting a radarless, SAM site less enemy. That's why they call the similar tactic against BETA Laserjagd. They're the only ones with the mobility to get fast enough through BETA lines to the Lasers while packing enough of a punch to have a chance of blasting their way in or out if they need to.

TSA's fulfill traditional CAS and ground attack roles. They're at least moving in the direction of remembering that combined arms exist and it's not just TSFs. Hell, in the anime, a tank finally did something, and we had like four seconds of A-10, and quite a few of A-6

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>>140613620
Oh dear...you have no idea, do you?

>>140613877
Is that 40k / AoS?
That stuff doesn't count, it's edgy bullshit and I can make people that are higher powerlevel up in my sleep

>>140607103
A you man enough to stand up for the ideals of your waifu and help her to achieve those ideals?

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>>140613920
>Lamenters are edgy
>not true scions of humanity, suffering for the better day

Off with you. And if edgy is your problem, why would you list those shows?

>>140614020
Because I'm not in it to see Accelerator or Madara act edgy, I'm in it for them to keep fucking up BETA by the millions.

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Holding hands with Gretel!

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>>140613746
>bombs and munitions need to be too high to be dropped,
Bombs aint everything and you can still drop em. You just gotta do special tricks.
There are 3 things in this picture that in their current form would benfit every single TSF depending on certain things like mission and so

>SEAD has very little application
Laserjagd is SEAD in BETA world, they go out for hunting down laser-class which does the same thing as SAM but on extreme steroids.


>TSA's fulfill traditional CAS and ground attack roles. They're at least moving in the direction of remembering that combined arms exist and it's not just TSFs. Hell, in the anime, a tank finally did something, and we had like four seconds of A-10, and quite a few of A-6
Problem is that not a single element in the rest of the combined arms team are designed for BETA warfare. Most of our real world vehicles post 1973 would not exist due to sudden new threat and change in pretty much everything and even if they still had the same name then they would not be in the same shape and form that they are in the real world. Just like how got giant mechs called F-15's yet they dont look like jets except they have the same name.

The real world T-64BV have no place in the east german army. They never operated it and it exist 2 years before it even got into service and it still have no place in muv-luv because it has no reason to even exist.

Are you guys trying to use logic on SM again? Stop.
It's like the people trying to physics out Index or Bleach.

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>>140614272
Well SM (muv-luv as whole) is set in cold war era, there is no real magic. The show uses real world terms, real world military equipment in a semi realistic settings where we got mechs with a rather convenient excuse for why they exist and why we can even build them due to change in world war 2 (nips simply cant handle the nuke so germany got it instead) and change in the space race and material science development speed.

So why should we not use logic? The show is asking for it, dont blaim me.

And what else should we talk about? Waifus? Lise? Sumika? Rebels din du nuffin? "when are they gona release x"?

>>140614555
Mechas are a complete waste of material though. What the shit is wrong with simply using planes, which are more compact, lighter, cheaper and likely to be more maneuverable? Mechas don't even carry all that heavy weaponry.

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>>140614555
Trips confirm that is Warsaw pact hardware time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blfb8XOiYaU

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>>140614611
Dubs also confirm it

China must grow larger

>>140614699
Good job mate

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>>140614744
>dubs again
Is this a stasi trick?

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>>140614611
>>140614699
>>140614744
>three dubs in a row
What exactly is going on here

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DdJifdnVs

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>>140614555
>>140614611
>>140614699
>>140614744
>>140614788
Now this is ebil

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>>140614788
>88

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>>140614788
The power of the Warsaw Pact

>>140614611
>>140614699
>>140614744
>>140614776
>>140614788
>>140614799
Hoooly shit.
Pact spirit is with us!

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>dubsposting
really lads

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>>140614896
pact stronk

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Dubs have stopped so it is over now.

We lost

>>140614989
The west is best posters didn't get any dubs either though.
It's just a stalemate after some gainz

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>>140614913
2pact4you

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>>140615044
oh shit nigger

Inb4 we get banned for dubsposting
Please dont

>>140614989
Never lose hope comrade
>>140615044

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>>140615044
>dubs
>again
Ok lads really what's happening

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>>140614913
Is it time for a sumika thread?

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>>140615101
>01
Ha. Worst girl.

>>140615101
Do you think she liked twizzlers

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>>140615101
NO

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>ELSEWHERE

"Well, fuck me!" came his voice.

Axmann had been lying in bed, when he had suddenly had the breakthrough he had been looking for for days now. Well, not alone - the girl riding on top of him, straddling his wasit was proof enough. She had seemed to be off in her own little world for the moment, so holding her arms down to drive her wild control fantasies on furthr, Ax's thoughts had wandered to other places.

It had been about a week or so since Axmann had formally joined Donald Trump's campaign to Make America Great after unceromoniously landing in a pile of trash following a rebirth and death that lasted all of five minutes. But Axmann was nothing if not a survivor.

But even here, he had to admit, he'd dropped into something special. He was in a completely BETA free world, and he was falling in love with it. Having to cope with the loss of power was a bitter pill to swallow, but to be honest, it would be easy enough to gain in this world - not when he saw the filth that sat at the heads of the "West". Even in his wildest imaginations, he'd never have imagined Germany would be failing like this. Even the Wessis were never this weak. Whatever, it didn't matter.

It certainly had been a wild few weeks. While he knew Corey Lewandowski had had his doubts about Axmann's ability, from what he figured, Corey was so struck by the audacity of it that he may as well give it a try. Good thing he did to, for Axmann certainly found what he needed. Fields would not trouble them again.

"Hm?", Ax's thoughts returned to his present - a certain New York lass with a giant ass was bobbing up and down on him, her mad desire to grasp and claw at him, releasing her pent up desires overpowering. Such a simple girl, so easy to fall in love. He knew she would be a mark, but didn't think this easy. She was a lot like that girl - Katia - from his old life. Simple, naive even, but with a good, strong heart. Even now, he was still on guard - he'd underestimated those before.

Is dubsposting a indication of low thread quality?

>>140615148
>Axmann is back
Yes

>>140615074
PACT IS LOVE
PACT IS LIFE

>>140615132
Based Yuzuka laying down the law.

>>140615166
Dubs confirm

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>>140615123
pfttttt

savior of the world>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lise

>>140615206
>savior
>causing suffering for the man you loved
Please go back to beta fun house.

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>>140615072
>>140615073
I'm doing my part
>>140615101
No, fuck off

>>140615206
Fuck off, Lise is high tier

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>>140614601

>What the shit is wrong with simply using planes

Laser. Blam, you're dead.

Nape of the Earth flying below 20-25 meters is extremely difficult and only really viable on extremely open terrain where the laser threat is significantly worse.

>are more compact, lighter, cheaper

Cheaper is going to wind up being debatable. They are probably lighter and more compact, but it's debatable whether that's actually an advantage here. The standard loadout for a TSF generally includes an order of magnitude more ammunition for a generally larger caliber (36mm vs 20mm) weapon. Even if you remove all the missile capacity and rearrange the plane to carry more bullets (and you'd be a moron not to), you would never reach a point where you're doing at all better in ammo capacity.

And you'd need to, because if you knew anything about how heavier-than-air flight works then you'd realize that your accuracy would be signfigantly reduced compared to what the TSFs can manage. This generally stems from the fact that you can't stop moving below a stall speed in excess of a hundred knots, and the automatic maneuvers to avoid being lasered will have to be programed to override firing concerns.

>and likely to be more maneuverable

Nope, at least not in this context, or the ways that matter. You can't maneuver at high altitude and you don't get to have miles of turning space. Also, once you build something that can actually mange the sort of NOE Flight necessary without snapping its wings off, maneuverability in other senses is going to be dubious.

>Heavy Weapons

Wrong agian. While there are configurations of aircraft that can carry heavy (90mm+) cannons, that's not what would work here. Because of the lasers, remember?

Besides, when your time on target is going to be two seconds or less, you may not be able to use it for much, if anything.

Giant robots may not be the best decision in universe, but in the sense that it's suboptional rather than stupid (ref. Gundam).

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>>140615182

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>>140615342
>stupid (ref. Gundam).
You talking shit about muh gundamu?

They would blow BETA the fuck away.

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>>140615225
>causing suffering for the man you loved
>impllying

Nah, sumika is just fixing takeru's shit taste


Best girl is sumika

and you kow takeru agrees

>>140615445
Nigga you did not fix shit.

>>140615436

One Year War. This is good.

And the point wasn't powerleveling, it was that they should be either impractical or get shitstomped in their own universe. The point was context.

>>140615342
So what, giant robots with excess limbs is the way to go? Giant robots don't get around any of those problems. Being shaped like a person doesn't help you fly close to the surface, it probably hurts actually due to how weirdly shaped you are.
>you can't stop moving...
We can't make VTOLs or something? I don't think so.
>nope
Yes. They've obviously gotten around G-forces being a problem, and however they maneuver the mechas works for anything airborne. Now, I get that standing on the ground isn't possible for planes, but VTOLs or something skimming all over the place doesn't sound that different.
>wrong again
I don't see how I'm being wrong here. The Mechas have a retarded shape and no visible advantage over a more streamlined shape.

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>>140615467
No, she fix a lot

who wouldn't love such a sweet girl like sumika?

>>140615445
>and you kow takeru agrees

Sumika didn't give him a choice in the matter.

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>I have been waiting for this.

>>140615534
Stop shitposting
t. Sumikafag

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>still no BETA keys

>>140615148
>Even in his wildest imaginations, he'd never have imagined Germany would be failing like this
Kek did he see Merkel

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>>140615561
>facts is shitposting
t. denial fag

>>140615662
You're obviously baiting though with the picturedump and lack of arguments to support your main post.
I'm a sumikafag but try to avoid baiting, it gives people like me a bad name.

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>>140615445
>and you kow takeru agrees
>implying he have a fucking choice

daily reminder that it took a lot of fucking loops till he agreed

sumika is so shit that didn't pick her for years

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>>140615148
>Axmann the Ass man

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>>140615148

But Ax figured he was trying to turn a new page in this world since he was given the chance. And it was paying off handsomely - he had a good job, he was able to use his old skills, he didn't lack for the finer or darker desires of life - and on top, at least as far as he could feel it, it was a nice set of people he'd joined up with. Convenient - his mind again coming back to Earth with a particularly violent clenching of her insides. All he had to do was probe this girl's darker mind, and offer her an unjudgemental heart, and she danced to his tune. Well, it wasn't that clinical, Ax had to admit if he was honest with himself. That wasn't too often.

"Axmann! Axmann! Please!"

He knew what she wanted. She wanted to be ravaged, for him to flood her insides. Well shouldn't he spoil her? She'd been a good girl after all. He'd certainly denied her long enough. Though that too was a kink, it was maddening to her, the depths to which he would deny her what she sought, even as it drove her more insane. Such a good girl...

Ax reached up and took hold of his belt that had been fashioned around her throat as a collar. Her eyes frew wider, her insides constricted vicelike down there at the shameful desires of what he was about to do to her flooded her mind, driving her more wild with unrestrained lust.

He chuckled to himself. The contrast with her normal innocence was intoxicating. "Leah?...Who's been a good girl?"

...

Some hours later, cleaned up, all his cuts and scratches on his body covered by a nice suit and tie courtesy of Trump's own label, Axmann was in a meeting with Corey and friends. Ever since he was able to follow through, for now they both agreed the Donald didn't need to be distracted with the details of his existence just yet, nor that Corey need to know the "finer details" of his handiwork. 'It's too bad' Axmann mused to himself, it had been quite the story. Needless to say, Michelle Fields would not be a problem again anytime soon.