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Last thread died.

How are you liking the series so far? Did you enjoy it? Did you drop it? What are your thoughts and speculations?

Remember to keep spoilers on when discussing things beyond the airing episodes and please keep shitposting to a minimum.
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I watched the first three/four episodes last night.
Was a fun ride. The MC is surprisingly down to earth and likeable; for an LN protagonist anyway, he actually has a personality. There was me thinking it was gonna follow in the vein of Dungeon ni Deai. The sword master guy is kind of a fag though.
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Im liking it so far.
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>>140557484
>>140557546
Good to hear, as a fan of the WN I am enjoying the fact that people are interested in the series so far, Whitefox has done a great job.

also, the MC becomes even more/less likable depending on where your tastes are at. But expect alot of character development in the series, so you will be in for a treat. He does alot of self reflection.
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>>140557711
The second arc in the mansion is shit. Tell me, does it get better in the following arc?
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A cute
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>>140557752
The second arc hasn't been aired yet, are you talking about the manga? But its kinda disappointing you didn't enjoy the second arc, I personally enjoyed it. But yes it does get much better, the third arc onwards is what created such a zealous fanbase in the first place. Alot of people are drawing parallels to this and Helck To get you into the idea of what you are getting yourself into.
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>>140557307
MC looks ugly
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What's the deal with her name?
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>>140558072
Yes he does. But he does look alot better once he gets into a tux.
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>>140558125
You'll find out within this season.
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>>140558125
Satella is the Voldemort of their world and she is also a silver hair half elf like Emilia.
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Is the 25 episodes going to be the full story or is this one of those light novel traps again?
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>>140558333
It will go all the way to arc 3, since the WN is still ongoing with 4+ arcs after arc 3. There would be no way to fit everything within 25 episodes unless you want to completely butcher the story. What Whitefox is doing is fantastic due to the anime and the WN/LN being on a 1:1 scale of each other.

Keep in mind

WN 6+ arcs and ongoing
LN is on arc 3
Manga is on 1/4 of arc 2
Anime is starting arc 2
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>>140557307
Making more threads of it will not change the fact this shit is not popular, everyone dropped it and the only kind of discussion in the threads you`ll get are people telling you how shit your taste is.
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>>140558911
Well I'm sorry that you don't enjoy the series. But please refrain in posting in such a way that would rile up other anons. I would enjoy having a civil discussion about this series within this thread. But hey, different tastes for different people.

Though I would enjoy your opinion on why you think this series is shit. Please use references and evidence as to why as well, and not make blind accusations as you do so.
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>>140558333
>>140558849
The anime is 25eps/2cour?
Sauce?
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>>140559138
I don't have the sauce on me but it is indeed 25 eps 2 cour. Its been made official, I believe you can google it.
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>>140558911
Posting in more threads about it will not change the fact that we want to discuss it, so stop being such a downer for no reason.
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>>140558125
Her name is basically the equivalent of yelling out Satan in public.
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I am on arc 4 of the novel, does it get any better? Will everything be daijoubu?
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>>140560077
No anon, it does not. I'm sorry. ;_;
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>>140560077
We will get to see that little slice of heaven one day, I know it.
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>>140560077
someone hold me
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>>140558849
Alright then.
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>>140560325
Its alright anon, everything will be daijoubu someday.
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>9 ip

I was lurking the previous threads, but wow.

Not to sound edgy, but I like these kind of stories, generic MC gets into generic situations (fantasy world, school harem, sci-fi war) then bam snap back to reality, whooop there goes gravity. I dunno, maybe I'm just tired of all the same garbage the elevens put out that I actually want to see how a generic MC fares in a (pseudo) realistic situation. Then get fucked in the face for all his deluded ideals.
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Yeap, the generic MC becomes less generic as well, the series brings alot of character development to the MC.

Like remember that time when we thought Helck was just joking? Those were good times.
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>>140560999
I never really understood why most of these threads has such a low population nowadays, the series can seriously be a really strong contender for AOTS. It used to be one of the most hyped up anime before it was airing. Is it because its very anti-wish fulfilling? Is it because people can't self-insert into the series? Is it because it isn't a battle harem? I really don't understand.
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>>140560999
Whoops forgot to
>>140561376

In addition I guess because in a way it brings something unique to the table, that we haven't seen before. Usually most anime revolving around that premise involves a MC OP self-insert in which this series does the exact opposite.
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>>140561492
People are jumping onto the 'elitist' bandwagon and deciding to pre-emptively hate it for being yet another 'SAO clone' so that they can feel like they were ahead of the curve when it forgets its cool premise, crashes and burns, and turns into a boring harem series - but there's still no indication that it will turn into a boring battle harem series, and those same people are beginning to look like idiots.

People who like Re:Zero are also less keen to go into these sorts of threads because they're often full of spoilers.
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>>140561788
I never understood how the elitist bandwagon was ever formed in the first place. Though I can see why those who like Re:Zero are avoiding these threads as alot of anons who enjoy the series talk about what is way ahead. So far everyone is doing a bang up job in preventing both.
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>>140560077
As fucked up it is in Arc 4, it's actually a breather compared to 3 and 5.
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>>140562247
Oh, now I want to die.
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>>140562247
Nothing will ever be daijoubu ever again.
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>>140561492
Its basically the same as those anons who kept calling Helck a "poor mans Berserk". That stigma will probably get written off in time. We will just have to wait and have more episodes air.
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>mfw that other thread
Are we really going to get this shitposting all season?
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>>140562624
I'm sorry but you need to classify which, is the thread a shitpost or the people shitposting a shitpost? Or the people discussing Re:Zero shitposting?
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Caught up on the manga, but I still want more. Definitely my favorite anime airing this season
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>>140562716
Shitpost thread full of shitposting.
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>>140562721
Good to see another anon is enjoying the series. If you want ore you can always read the WN, it kinda sucks that it is not completely translated and YenPress got the licence for the LN. That or learn Korean and buy the LN through them. I'm just glad that they are getting scanned alot more often and frequently. They have alot of Raws to burn through as well.
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>>140562936
Part of the WN is translated?
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>>140562822
While I disagree that we are shitposting, I will try to refrain from doing what irks you in the near future. But I would like your feedback and have you classify which you would deem are shitposts as well as what we can do to improve this thread as well as our discussions, to move past the qualities that you would deem to be a shitpost.
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>>140563123
There should be one somewhere that is translated up until the beginning of arc 5 in english. I don't have the sauce for it though as I reading it in nip at Naoru.
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>>140563261
Thanks, guess I'll start looking for it. Only knew that some anons were suffering through reading the google translate of it
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>>140562247
Well fuck me then.
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>>140561788
How did this elitist bandwagon even form anyways?
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so are the witches in this series like the ones from umineko?
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>>140560077
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Five story arcs worth of suffering.
What's the fucking point then?

>>140561788
No one's worth a shit to talk to actually calls Re:Zero a SAO clone. Some just don't see it worthwhile to read a story that banks so hard on the little happy moments in the pile of bad ends. This level of emotional imbalance is a terrible investment.
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>>140566593
You mean like insane and shit? I guess so.
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>>140557711
As a LN/WN reader, does Subaru start making faces whenever he gets angry or shit goes down that scares the shit out of everyone.
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>>140567619
*?
Didn't get to add a question mark instead of the period.
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>>140557307
>How are you liking the series so far? Did you enjoy it? Did you drop it? What are your thoughts and speculations?

best arc of the story is done. what do you want me to say? am I enjoying the misery porn? not really.
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>>140567746
> best arc of the story is done
man, you don't even know.
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Those fuckers won't stop bumping that shitposting thread
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>>140568864
Let it be its going to die at some point anyways. Just keep discussing and bump this one then.
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>>140567619
Yes.
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>>140567113
Well, we had two in the beginning that was to stock us up.
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>>140567113
One can consider it based on emotions but I call it investing in a story that may end up good. The tone of the show will end up slightly hopeful and the tone stays dark for the remainder as we know through the protagonist's eyes.
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>>140568864
Yep
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>>140568864
Then all we have to do is just not have this thread die. It kinda sucks that the shitposting thread has a higher population compared to this one.
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I-is this the thread where their will be no mention of e-celeb reviewers or shit posting about it being an X-clone or like Y-anime?

I wanna suffer, but not by shitposting!
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>>140562624
Probably, but that's all thanks to the people jumping into the bandwagon.
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>>140570800
They try to make shitty claims and we have to be the ones to refute them. Also, do people even understand the meaning of the word, edge?
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>>140562624
You think this is bad? Try keeping up with No Game No Life when it was airing, no one will ever feel the same kind of shitposting ever again.
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>>140571123
The shitposting must have come from the reviewer fanbase.
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>>140571123
Yes, we chased off all the shitposters before they could amass, this place is safe for now.
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>>140571156
Tehy do, but they don't understand how to differentiate between edge and suffering.
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Does anyone know the reason why Felt got arrested my Reinhardt?

Spoiler me please.
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>>140558849
>Manga is on 1/4 of arc 2

What. The dude is barely hanging on to his sanity at this point and you're telling me that like five loops in is only a quarter?
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>>140572312
More or less.
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>>140567619
here ill post some. spook warning
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>>140572278
She's under arrest for violating the Indecent Clothing for Lolis Act
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>>140572357
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>>140572312
The second arc is 80 chapters worth of WN anon.

>>140572357
Come the fuck on dude. Spoiler that shit. Seriously.
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>>140572351
Jesus fuck man, I don't know if I can take this series.
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>>140572408
reminder Rem is braindead at this point and nobody but MC remembers h
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Someone link the novel?
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>>140572382
Damn that act, DAMN THAT ACT TO HECK!
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>>140572278
Emblem = Proof that you are a possible heir to the throne, if anyone hears that it has been stolen or could easily be stolen by someone like Felt, the country will go to shit because then anyone can be king, at least that's what I understood from the manga. Normally it is impossible due to the maids that protect Emelia, but for some reasons that day she did not accompany Emelia.
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>>140572424
Alot of people couldn't. Even the LN sales for the series had dropped by the 4th volume because the nips couldn't take that much suffering.

>>140572408
Spoiler please.
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>>140572454
Reminder: Even if he somehow wakes her up, no one will remember her, and she will be left with nothing if Subaru doesn't pick her
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>>140572557
>Reminder: Even if he somehow wakes her up, no one will remember her, and she will be left with nothing if Subaru doesn't pick her

THIS IS THE THING THAT TRIGGERS MY TRAGEDY BONER
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Dropped
It's another stupid anime with badly written characters.
Honestly i want to like this anime but it's too fucking bad,the pacing is horrible,Subaru is unbearable,etc.
>>140572506
"but the LN is really hardcore the nips can't handle that shit,subaru is gonna suffer blablabla"
Are everyone in this thread fucking pussies,how can you stop reading a novel because the mc suffer too much,did you guys always watched idol anime ? Fucking grow up
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Guys I think i'm worried about Subaru
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>>140572674
>idol anime
>no suffering

Really?
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>>140572408
>>140572454
>>140572557
>>140572648
Dai...S-Su...ki...
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>>140572740
>>140572788
Holy fuck guys can we PLEASE spoiler this shit?
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This thread literally went fuckall within a matter of posts. It was going so well too.
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>>140572782
What i'm saying is that i don't understand how can someone drop a manga or a light novel because there's too much suffering
i'm sure it's the same type of people who couldn't even read shindol's emergence
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Looks like the people from the previous thread already migrated.
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>>140572912
But no one was talking about jack shit before those posts.
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>>140573137
We actually had a discussion going, people were even avoiding spoilers as much as possible as well.
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>>140572952
Sometimes people just don't want to read something that makes them sad.
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>>140573217
buy why would you be sad about this mc he's fucking trash
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>>140573217
Sad ?
Seeing subaru suffers would make me happy
It's like,who really thought umareru was hardcore ?
It was really fun seeing the mc go berserk and kill/rape whoever he wanted to.
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>>140573253
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>>140573344
>puck is a super powerful spirit, you can ask anything out of him
>can i pet u
That's why he's suffering, because he's fucking retarded.
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>>140557307

Needs more Elsa.
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>slave harem or Arifureta dint get an adaption
>this did

Why
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>>140573509
He just needs to ask Puck why Emilia won't say she's actually the Witch
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>>140573217
For how bad it ruins an interesting premise? I agree.
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Welp, looks like its time to abandon thread again. See you guys later on tonight. Hopefully all the shitposters will be sleeping.
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>>140557307
i'd enjoy it more if the MC was less retarded
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>>140573948
>interesting premise
Yes, the reincarnated into another world is such an interesting premise anon
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>>140574030
>reincarnated into another world
>interesting premise
You made a mistake anon. I was referring to the "edge of tomorrow" premise in a fantasy setting.
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>>140573885
Because Re zero has a more straight forward storyline that ain't shit. No haremshit or lackluster slice of life. Plus the fact that he fails more compared to bullshit success. He struggles and has a good goal while having a better personality that actually has development. Fuck off.
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Reminder that he is lugging around her body so he still loves her.
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>>140574536
But don't forget Emilia and Subaru are slowly starting to get attached to each other even tho he is carrying Rems body
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Thank god that shitpost of a thread died.
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chapter 14 is out
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>>140575388
We knew since yesterday. And.
> She desires love
This triggers me.
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I like the anime but you guys gotta admit Subaru is unfucking bearable at times. I don't know why but when I see him suffer it's not like when I see kaiji suffer, its just wake THE FUCK UP MAN. at least kaiji couldn't escape his problems subaru just seems fucking determined to make more problems for himself.
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>>140575543
Kaiji doesn't have crippling depression, though.

Kaiji was just a dumb gambler who thought he could win it all, Subaru on the other hand must try and endure everything he goes through, and try not to crack down under his depression or else he'll just have to feel the pain of dying over and over again and seeing people he like, die.
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>>140575428
Can witches not want to be loved?
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>>140575543
Kaiji's problems were brought upon himself

Subaru didn't really do anything to warrant being thrown into fantasy australia and suffer through countless deaths
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>>140557307
>that bait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb4r6C_WFEA
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>>140576032
Fucking retarded anime just like Konosuba, i bet this show doesn't even do the meta humor right.
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Is that a legit question OP?
If I say this show is absolute proof elevens are retards who like god awful and predictable characters will I just be called a shitposter?
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>>140576151
Wow. How comedic is this!? Man, it's trying so hard to be humorous! AM I RIGHT!?
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>>140576445
Tell me again why does he have a crippling depression?
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>>140576445
>I can't fail

Of course, shit meta humor!

He keeps on repeating he can't fail because he's in a fantasy world, and the page, BOOM! He doesn't fail! It's such shit meta that i can tell what happens next because i've seen a couple pages about the series on 4chan.

A complete and utter SAO clone.
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>>140576419
> God awful
> Predictable
You are absolutely right, and let me tell you that this is definitely proof to how right you are.
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>>140576494
One is born with crippling depression, anon... Or so says doctors.
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>>140576494
Who the hell would be traumatized by this little scratch!? Damn, he sure is overly dramatic! AM I RIGHT!?
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Emilia>Rem

Emilia never tried to kill Subaru.

Rem did. Both those sisters should burn in hell.
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>>140576702
if he's so traumatized why does keep doing it? he's literally puts himself in harms way.
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>>140576721
Come on, she's a good girl.
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>>140576702
Man, look out for that edge!
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>>140576778
Yup, I mean love is just an emotion and why should you die for family or the one you fell in love with if you had a chance to save her with your power?
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>>140576778
Don't try to argue with butthurst sao fanboys.
This anime is bad and you should feel good about dislking it,that means that you have good taste.
On another note,if anyone wants a good suffering/gore game,you guys should check corpse party
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>>140576798
Hope she get's nothing but be a forgotten memory by all the ones that loved her when she wakes up.
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>>140576778
It's not like he has a choice, to be fair.
>leave: killed by lem or shaman
>don't leave: killed by lem or lam
What I don't get is why he keeps being sympathetic to these monsters.
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>>140576798
She tried to kill him without giving him much of a chance.
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>>140576896
Oh damn, you are definitely right, corpse party is filled with generic stock characters with a harem dense mc, imouto, a class rep and friend since middle school while a lesbo is in love with her. Damn, Is it great to have generic stock characters die! In fact, the delinquent has individuality and an actual personality so definitely he is the worst character all around!
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>>140576778
>>140576896
Fuck off ESL samefag.
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>>140576562
Yup, he sure is succeeding! He definitely is gonna win in every time loop!
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I love this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkjaDJNx5xY#t=64
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>>140576885
I honestly don't think Subaru really knows what love is, he hasn't know Emilia for that long, He didn't even know the twins for that long before saying he loved them love is a weak argument friend. He's traumatized but the power of love overcomes all right. it really just seems like he's doing weird shit for a crush.

>>140576948
Alright you've got me there, if he has to deal with the problem then I can't argue why doesn't he just leave. He's never really tried to just walk away but I suppose he could eventually come to the conclusion. Lem would just track him down and kill him for some reason.

>>140577112
Nice. Look don't hold it against me I don't know what ESL is I just don't feel the sympathy for this guy you guys do.
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>>140577246
Just reply with sarcasm and they will definitely go away faster.
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>>140577211
The ED is really good.
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>>140577246
>He's never really tried to just walk away
He did, once.
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>>140557307
So without spoiling too much, is Reinhard actually as much of a bro as he's been thus far or does he go full ass later? A simple yes he is/no he won't be would suffice, really.
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>>140577819
I can't read moon, so if it happens in the WN or LN fair enough. at least if he's trapped in a loop due to circumstance it makes more sense then to feel like you need to save people you hardly know.
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Damn, Subaru sure wants to copy the disco king.
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>>140578137
He should have just not suicided after lem died tbH, then he'd finally be free and a psychopathic murderer would have left the world. All around fantastic result, which would have been perfect if lam died in the process too.
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>>140578462
He still got them moves!
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>>140578672
but he gets no pusc
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>>140578858
Subaru needs this.
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>>140578672
We don't know if there would have been a save/checkpoint after that
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>>140579131
But Rem deserves nothing but suffering!
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>>140580133
>Rem deserving suffering
>Not Scumilla
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>>140558911
I didn't drop it, but these threads are just terrible so I rarely post in them.
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>>140579969
Which is why he shouldn't have suicided like a retard.
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Honestly this show is fucking shit but it somehow hooked me and made me read the fucking manga but the manga is fucking shit as well. Can someone just spoil me on everything so I can stop, please?
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>>140580321
There's nothing, it's just shit through and through.
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>>140580200
Rem did nothing but cause pain for Subaru, so she deserves nothing but to be a forgotten memory. Or so how it should be for a leach like her.
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>>140580321
>>140580364
> It's shit hurr durr!
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>>140577211
fuck 1 month left for full version
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>>140580321
>>140580364
> Doesn't explain why it is shit.
Man, this is the hater fanbase, guys! You are pic related.
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So when can we expect subs for episode 4?
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>>140581744
19 hours.
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>>140577061
At least corpse party is fun and pretty funny while re : zero isn't fun nor funny.
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Does anyone remember which arc and chapter that Satella actually meets Subaru face to face?
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>>140583961
arc 1 chapter 1
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>>140579131
Does Emilia turn into a loli?
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>>140575428
So does that mean that the girl he first met wasn't emillia, but the witch?
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So the first woman he met was actually the witch, right?
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>>140584403
>>140584636
>>140584681

No
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>>140584156
I mean after that.
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>>140580866
>>140581094
And you are a typical hyper defensive LN-fanbase that treats the fact that there might be someone that doesn't like your favorite story as a personal attack.
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>>140581094
>>140580866
I didn't say it's bad, I sad it's fucking garbage. My request still stands tho, I'd love to be spoiled about everything.
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>>140585763
>it's not bad but it's garbage
Excuse me, what?
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>>140586348
I think he meant that it's not bad, but rather really really bad
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>>140585763
Now THIS is autism
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I'm guessing Emilia is actually Setella (seperate personality maybe?)
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>>140590495

Proof
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>>140590554
>>140590495
Yesterday some anons theorized that Emillia and satella were the same person, and I think this was hinted at during the dialogue between Beatrice and subaru on the topic of why he smells like a witch, in which she said they that the reason a witch might curse him is because she loves or hates him.

Emilia is the side that loves subaru, and the witch, jealous of that due to disiring love, but not being able to understand or speak to humans curses him.
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>>140590762
Even If it turns out that Emilia is Satella some point it's definitely not her currently. Satella was sealed centuries ago and her spirit merely wonders the world now. If she actually a witch Puck. Beatrice and Rem would have known a longtime ago.
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Best girl soon.
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From the looks of the preview, we might actually get to a death by the end of the episode.
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Has Digibro and Best Guy killed the discussion of this series, or was it always like this?
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>>140594434
Nah, if the fans of those "reviewers" say anything, we end up having to correct their claims.
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>>140594434
No one gives a shit about ecelebs.
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>>140594543
But, i mean, did their "Review" actually cause the discussion of this series to die down from earlier threads, or was it always this slow, that's what i meant to ask.
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>>140594607
Nah, today is just slow.
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>>140594607
It didn't kill shit. It spawned a tonne of shitposting. This thread is only slow because the other thread attracted all the shitters.
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>>140590554
Wrong.
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Shitposters and the reviewer shills are asleep. I've noticed the real fans of this series amount to a handful.
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>>140594607
Shut-ins being set into fantasy worlds is a big red flag for many anons.

Youtube reviewers don't matter. This isn't /v/.
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>>140594839
I'm a bit shocked, i assumed a couple months ago when i heard about this series, it was gonna be the overrated shit that comes out every year, bit it turns out it's gonna be the most underrated anime of the century.
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>>140590554
didnt satella touch subaru for the first time in the allyway? thats when she cursed him.

also satella is 100x better girl than emilia for sure but not as good as rem
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>>140595045
What are you talking about? No one praised it before. They all downplayed it saying it looked generic or some shit. Plus almost no one hyped it up. They all thought other people were going to hype the fuck out of it and make it popular but it didn't. Fuck their idiotic assumptions.
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>>140595045
I expect that more anons will join the ride once the real suffering sets in.

A lot of people seem to think that this show may go the generic wish fulfillment harem route.
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>>140595476
Ok, where's the illustration where it is pretty much a sausagefest of men? Because the moment some shit poster says it is a harem wish fulfillment, I'll be sarcastic and shit saying, "Yeah, this is a real great wish fulfillment! I mean, Subaru sure loves being surrounded by a harem of men!"
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>>140595757
This one?
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>>140595838
Oh yeah. When they start to say that shit, just be sarcastic and they will immediately shut up more quickly. Just play with them and you'll all be fine.
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>>140595838
Holy shit! That cat boy and those twins!
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>>140595838
Why do the male support characters tend to be better than the females in this series?
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>>140595757
>>140595908
>LN-fags getting defensive in advance
Amazing.
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>>140595476
>MC dies like 5 times in suffering within 3 episodes
>wish fulfilment
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Premise is basically impossible to fuck up, no points awarded there.

Action scenes are surprisingly well choreographed.

Constant pointing out of cliches is very irritating, almost made me drop it. It is not any more clever or funny than actually having the cliches.

Somewhat enjoying it overall.
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>>140595757
Give it time and don't spasm out just because someone doesn't like the show. You'll only encourage more shitposting that way.
I honestly can't blame animeonlys for thinking that this show may be something like that.

From their point of view, the only thing this show has going for it right now is the resurrection time jump gimmick. Aside from that it's been a pretty generic story about a hikikomori who was summoned into a different world to get a harem so far. Subaru even showed harem protagonist-levels of density by needing to die three times to realize his powers.
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>>140596377
The thing that really pulls me in is the psychological state of Subaru deteriorating. His conscience willpower and bonds that continue to be broken down and built back up really makes him set apart from other characters and protagonists in the past.
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>>140596366
If anything, the cliches are their to treat it like your average wish fulfillment, tricking the viewer to thinking it's a whole different genre then what it really is.
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>>140596626
Eh, bait and switch. At least this series is different in its own merit and rather has a considerable amount of development. Characters are not actually shallow as to what others say.
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>>140596982
But i heard from a random no body that it was a wish fulfillment and almost like an SAO clone!

He knew about it because he seen it on 4chan and even his friends agree with him!
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>>140597102
Stop watching that neck bearded pedophile who thinks K-on is better than jojo.
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>>140596286
I wouldn't be surprised if some shitty isekai LN author somehow managed to turn a power like that into gary stu plot armor with no drawbacks
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>>140597102
It's incredible how upset you get over people shitposting you're favorite LN.
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>>140597627
Technically it has no drawbacks, other than pain from death.
Unless you count the fact that Subaru just jumps from body to body, leaving his last body actually fucking dead and everyone alive in that universe to deal with his death.
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>>140597602
>crappy youtube reviewers invented people throwing anything with this setting into the same pot as SAO
Stop being new.
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>>140597683
Says you. When the hell did we say it was our favorite? We said the story is good.
>>140597688
The power also has a physical/spiritual influence we know that continuous time travel will make him more suspicious and paranoia around will increase. The aspect of that time reset system makes it more unique and improved from others.
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>>140597881
Okay then. It's incredible how upset you get over people shitposting LN you like.
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>>140597688
>no drawbacks

Say that to the vegetable that he now has too carry because he couldn't save it after a save location forced him back into the situation, over and over again


dai-su-ki
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why is subaru so motivated to help people who are pretty much monsters? first loop sort of made sense he felt like he owed elf lady, and wanted to save old black man and thief girl. who he never asks about once before deciding to save the people that murder him. The his motivations are to small in the 2nd loop, people say he goes through hell and becomes damaged, I'd say he was pretty damaged from the start to become so attached so quickly to people and then when they're out of his vision forget them.
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>>140597985
We hate hypocrisy at its finest down to the core. They compare shit of what they believe when they are very unlike and different. The fucking idiots think this is a game like world when there is almost no status screen or some other shit other than having a special power, which is technically not exactly a game element as we know.
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>>140598175
Because he doesn't know when to quit.
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>>140598175
Like this?
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>>140598411
God damn privileged white males, thinking they deserve something for dying over and over again and suffering.
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>>140598321
Can't argue with that you're probably right.
>>140598411
Yeah, I think while dying over and over again probably did affect his psyche I think saying that to people you've only know for like a week, suggests that before any of this happened in the real world he was a bit of a basket case.
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>>140598287
>We
I'm assuming you're talking for all the hyper defensive LN-fags?
All you're doing is just shitting up the threads by inviting more shitposting. And now it's not just overrating to everything that might be seen as a criticism, instead you're talking about how upset you are over how people dared to shitpost it before, and another guy plans on what he should reply to when future shitposters come. Don't you really find that excessive?
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>>140598968
Well, if anything, there is a new method that is sarcasm to defend against the shitposting. That way, the shitposters will end up all red in the end.
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>>140597985
I don't get it, is he supposed to be happy about shitposting?
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Okay I'm looking for an unbiased opinion here. Should I pick it up? what are the pros and cons here
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>>140599999
>those dubs
Checked.

If you like Konosuba without the humor and with additional edge, then pick it up.

Just read the source material/adaptations and form your own opinion you fucking faggot.
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>>140599999
fucking chekd m8
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>>140599999
Do you like suffering? If yes, there will be plenty later on.

There's also best girl.
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>>140599999
Not sure if my opinion is unbiased.

Is it worth watching or picking up yes?

Pros
an interesting take on a done to death trope.
Animation looks nice, fight scenes should look quite good.
OP and ED are sort of catchy.

Cons
Thread's are half of the time people memeing about suffering or shitposting.
Plot is weak in some parts so your mileage may vary
LN and WN are untranslated as far as I know, manga is on chapter 14. Anime will soon overtake it almost.
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>>140600180
DUDE, fuck off with this meme!
it's obviously an SAO clone.
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first episode was a fucking slog man. I almost couldn't keep it together, nothing appealing. I'm only sticking around because people keep insisting it gets better.
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>>140600367

>anything that's in a different world is now SAO

when will THIS meme stop
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>>140598005
How is that a drawback? He's just playing on hard mode, no one's forcing him to carry that weight. The suffering is his own making.

Here's an easy way to get out of it-
>hang out with some people you've just met
>die a horrible death
>respawn
>don't associate with those people that got you killed last time
>live happily ever after
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>>140600582
but then there would be no plot and no interesting story.
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>>140598175
Cause they aren't monsters and Rem has her reason for doing what she did. You don't seem realize she thinks he part of Witch Cult because they are the only ones to give the Witch scent. The basically criminal group of heinous sadists that destroyed lives many people in the name of Satella. In Rem point he's danger to everyone there. She isn't going after him for fun. This isn't an Elsa situation here.

As he states he knows jackshit about them or their past that's why things turned out they did.

Also you have forgottten he's actually known them for a lot longer because he's relived the same week 5 times so he more attachment to them then they to him. That always going to be main conflict with Subaru's relationships at first.
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>>140600582
He's known them for 3 weeks (loops), not 4 days and come to like them as he did with Felt and Rom.
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>>140600691
Past the scent doesn't she admit to having no proof of any affiliation, to the point where he asks if Rosewall sent her. and shes like no. I don't see how its anything but murder. Elsa kills because she loves guts, Rem kills because she hates witches Who, Why , What are lost on them both.

Same week 5 times is presumptuous friend, The manga the other anon posted is on the 3rd life and he left the mansion on the 2nd day so he's know them 8 days at best. four days isn't a week but despite that he still tries to say he loves her.

My original point was anyhow he's a basket case only way you can explain him getting attached to people so quickly. and going through so much for murderous strangers.
He's either
A) socially inept and takes all his social skills from harem games.
B)Is horribly depressed in the real world and sees this a chance to make friends
C) a poorly written arc with weak motivations for characters exist.
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>>140601114
>going through so much for murderous strangers

The real question is why doesn't he try to save the cult members and Elsa as well? They're murderous strangers too and all they need is a friend who is willing to die multiple times for them in order to show them the errors of their ways and how they're not living their lives correctly.
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>>140601262
Like honestly just have a an arc where elsa is nice to him for like an evening, and he'll be willing to die at least 20 times to save her from herself.
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>>140600209
So why did she look at him like this?
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>>140601322
I think it'd be even better for him to spend an arc trying to save someone that can't be saved and have his attitude be like "fuck this shit" after a dozen attempts or so and forget all about it.
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>>140601114
The Witch scent is the proof of his affiliation, didn't you read what I said? Nobody but those have inherited a witch's power has that. And she isn't completely off base, Subaru has connections to them he doesn't thanks to Satella.

Anyone in this world would do exact what she doing ( or call the Royal Knights to have arrested and executed) especially when they don't know very well.

It's up Subaru to prove his own innocence not anyone else because they little reason for anyone believe if they think he's a spy that's going slit their throats.
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>>140601262
Because he doesn't know Elsa beyond being murderous sadistic fuck that killed him and Emilia for own ends. SHe never acted like a decent to begin with, Ram and Rem did. They treated kindness before whole Witch's scent became a factor. How about looking the situation beyond purely black and white?
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>>140601711
"decent person"
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>>140601114
Or (D) he isn't fucking asshole to everyone he meets. Being nice and good nature person not a sin nor does make you crazy. I've easily go along lots of people I've only met briefly.
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>>140601516
That would be a good arc.

>>140601554
>Proof of affiliation
It doesn't mean affiliation for all anyone knows it means a witch messed up your shit, you'd think rem would be sympathetic if anything. anyone in the world except her sister and book loli. if we assume puck, and rosewall just can't smell it. guilty with no chance of proving innocence because She fucking jumps him in the woods.

>>140601861
Have you then told them you loved them after eight days? or died trying to save them?
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>>140601899
A witch messing up you shit is a not common belief. Everyone who has Witch's power has been known as heinous person thoughout history.

Rem's tribe was apparently destroyed by those very same people who bared the same scent as Subaru. So again she has her reasons for previous actions tin 2nd and 3rd loops. She wasn't just interrogating and saying those things to Subaru for hell of it. Please your head actually and stop ignoring the obvious that something more go with her there.

And the it's Subaru's best interest to find out what hell is going on or he''l just run into same problem no matter where he goes or worse catch the attention of Cult themselves where in a position he can't do anything about it.
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I largely prefer this anime to the others I've started this season, even the hyped shit that is Kabaneri. It's just an interesting take on the genre despite the concept being done again and again recently (timelooped are the quintessential source of suffering). But yeah, no one will like this anime because most elitist idiots immediately labeled it as "yet another SAO clone" (I actually got someone who said it on a pleb forum I used to go to) and the horrendous build-up of the first episode kinda gave people a good reason to jump down the ship.
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>>140602837
Friend please use your head, may you be ignoring the fact that rem is unstable, but the fact she is doesn't make her methods stable. all you're really saying is she has a reason to be a monster not that she's not. give Elsa an arc where she needs to disembowel people related to the witch and she'd still be a psychopath. just like rem is.

That's a good point but that isn't why Subaru is trying to save them, he doesn't say I'll get to the bottom of this for you, he says I LOVE YOU!
He literally is this guy, just take this guy put him in re:zero and you have the same character almost.
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>>140603127
Now watch these people try and jump on the ship again, after it turns into the gem in the sea of shit.

It will fun watching these same morons going "W-we were on the joke about how it was wish fulfillment trash all along, we swear! Haha" and act like they knew how good it was since the beginning.
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>>140603127
hah, just wait till mid season or past arc 2, you will be surprised how quick people jump ship and pretend they were "joking" the whole time and know the series is good.

and who the fuck is this digibro, i do a quick search and i cant believe you guys like this guy at all, jesus, such a faggot.
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>>140603394

>Friend please use your head, may you be ignoring the fact that rem is unstable

Sorry, but you gonna have to prove that bruh. Nobody in universe thinks she unstable nor has she been portrayed in story as being as such even when she killed him. She got along with Subaru just fine in the first loop before he was killed by an outsider in first loop.\ before the whole Witch's sent presence became known.

And latest chapter even shows her having doubts now after she saw Subaru pour his heart out Emilia. She clearly be reasoned with if Subaru can prove he not threat.
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>>140603677
you know its pointless debating or even presenting your thoughts to that anon right?

its clear that he wont take "no" for an answer and pretty hell bent in proving the series is shit and subaru reason is shallow as fuck. ignore the faggot please.
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>>140603394
>Friend please use your head, may you be ignoring the fact that rem is unstable

Sorry, but you gonna have to prove that bruh. Nobody in universe thinks she unstable nor has she been portrayed in story as being as such even when she killed him. She got along with Subaru just fine in the first loop before he was killed by an outsider in first loop and \ the whole Witch's sent presence became known.

And latest chapter even shows her having doubts now after she saw Subaru pour his heart out to Emilia. She clearly be reasoned with if Subaru can prove he not threat their lives .
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>>140603394
What I find funny is that Subaru went and helped the twins because they held his hands.

Guess who else held his hand? Why didn't he save her? Elsa had a tragic backstory too but she was never saved, Subaru is a hypocrite.
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>>140603812
>>140603896

you mean jumping a man in the woods and torturing him doesn't make her come off as a little unhinged?
or the time he was walking up the stairs and she tore a gash in his side without saying a word.

I don't know what you need to prove she's not all there. or the fact the not everyone feels the same way she does like book loli or her sister who is suspected to have saved him from her torturing him from what she says about her sister being to kind.

You aren't wrong about her having doubts, I don't know if I'd go so far as to say she could be reasoned with it's hard to say if looking conflicted over the person you want to kill is her having a change of heart.

>>140603957

I agreed with you with the first couple elsa things, but we don't know if elsa had a tragic backstory. I don't know if I'd call him a hypocrite my argument has been so far his prerogative barring the first loop for saving people has been random at best.
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I hope you guys didn't get tricked by newfag that said battle harem not selling even last season best selling is battle harem (konosuba). Utawareru, gate, shinmai, rakudai, phantom,maybe pso 2 even asterisk sold decently. Re:zero also battle harem it will sell decently too
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>>140604364
>battle harem
this bait.
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>>140604146
>or the time he was walking up the stairs

There was a perfectly good reason for her to completely brutalize him then.
>be maid of a mansion
>honored guest bursts out of his room in the dead of night
>his gait is unsteady
>probably has diarrhea or about to puke or both and is desperately looking for the restroom
>he's not going to make it
>he's going to make a mess on the brand new persian rug
>better turn him into mincemeat
>roswaal-sama would be proud of my split second decision to preserve the cleanliness of the mansion
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>>140604364
>Re:Zero
>battle harem
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>>140604419
Honestly I don't understand why he would forgive her.
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>>140603842
I never said the series was shit, I said I thought Subaru's motivations or lack there of might mean he's got a sad backstory. and it would help to explain his weak motivations. you just saying "no" doesn't make that not a point, fair enough you don't want to talk about re:zero but don't try to disguise conversation as shit posting.
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Why doesn't he just rape all of them?
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>>140604473
Psychological damage from the revivals. It also explains how it took him 3 times to realize he was even reviving in the first place.
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>>140604392
How can you be so deluded this is battle harem. There is harem and there is battle even first arc consist mostly fighting even the mc let alon all other character consist of fighter and offensive witch.
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>>140604419
Made me chuckle.
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>>140604701
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>>140604473
stockholm
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>>140603957
Yes just please ignore the context of those scenes. Might as well add the Emilia Beatrice and Puck held his hands too!

>>140604494
No because her motivation is what determines whether she crazy or not. Read the scene 3rd cycle again in the forest. Her second job at manor is guard it's residents from potential dangers. You can argue about her judgement all you want but she is just doing her job. The only reason she interrogated him in that manner she doesn't believe he would answer honestly otherwise. It was pretty common thing to do criminals in the meadevil era of this setting. Even fucking Subaru realizes she isn't doing it because hurr, durr evulz and yet you can't?

>>140604146
More like you have the attention span of goldfish. The whole reason he's in manor to began is because he owes a debt to Emilia and fell in love with her because of it. He literally says this straight out at dinner with Roswaal.

If he can't solve the problems at the manor he can't actually stay there with her since people in it are hostile to him due to a misunderstanding. And with unseen threat going around Emilia's own life is in danger which he can't ignore.
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>>140604473
1)Because he knows thanks to Beatrice that there some reason behind it adding to what Rem said.

2) The Rem of this world hasn't tried to kill him yet, so there a chance to change things.
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>>140605861
>Emilia Beatrice and Puck held his hands
And he went on to be friends with all of them. Too bad Elsa didn't get the same treatment.

>It was pretty common thing to do criminals
I didn't realize Subaru did anything wrong, I guess he deserved to be mutilated and killed for smelling fishy.

>owes a debt to Emilia
Only in his own mind. Otherwise they're even. Dumb fuck Subaru has a belief that debts from other lives carry over. If that's the case then Rem and Lam also have a debt they need to repay for grotesquely murdering his ass.
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Common sense has somehow lost its place here.

Subaru is trying to fix things. He can't explain to anyone what his motivations are, because of his curse.

So, if he can't explain to Rem and Ram why he despises them, what is he left to do? Keep getting killed over and over?

In order to survive and move forward, he has to make peace with them.

Also, he's in a completely alien situation and has to cling to something for meaning and a way forward. He clings to Emilia because she is an island of stability for him, and the same can be said for any other friends he makes.

There's nothing else he can really do if he wants to move forward.
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>>140605591
I think you might of responded to the wrong quotes,
I've no idea why you're being so impertinent but I'll ignore it.
Never called her evil, called her a monster and then I called her unstable. besides we've already been over this she's works for rosewaal but she was acting on her own despite what rosewaal. if she was doing her job she's doing a bad job of it seeing as she admitted to acting on her own, to the point where she wants to do it before shes get caught by her sister who probably knows she's unstable as all hell.

Because you misquoted it's hard to tell what points you're trying to refute. Who was talking about him being in the manor? Hasn't he already paid back his debt to Emilia ignoring how quickly he seems to fall in love. He's not trying to save Emilia he's trying to save the twins. it's all well and good you bring up reasonable reasons he'll want to do something but if he makes his motivation clear from the get go save the twins because in his own words loves them. It's not because he knows anything about the witches sect and it's not because Emilia is in danger.

While you can claim I've the memory of a goldfish all you want, it doesn't change the fact he's made that point abundantly clear and you seem quicker to forget it than I do.
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>>140606241

I agree with you, she's unstable.

But, both sisters ended up killing Subaru. When he had his leg chopped off, the other sister finished him off.
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Why do I see so many manga parts yet when I check online, it's barely caught up to the anime?
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>>140606292
There are 3 mangas.

Each manga covers a different arc. You're probably only reading the first manga.
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>>140606276
Honestly that one seemed like a mercy killing, but you are right they both did kill him. but I don't think he knows the other one killed him. The audience at best can assume.
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>>140606113
>And he went on to be friends with all of them. Too bad Elsa didn't get the same treatment.

It's awesome how the concept of context doesn't exist you vocab. Must be nice to be ignorant.

>I didn't realize Subaru did anything wrong, I guess he deserved to be mutilated and killed for smelling fishy

The hell are you talking? It has nothing to do with whether did anything wrong. DO not for fucking get that everybody even Emilia has found Subaru suspicious as fuck even without bring up Witch scent? Emilai and Puck themselves only started to trust him after he save their lives (and their original thought he was in cohoots with bandits). Rem is literally going to the same only it's much worse because he producing an evil power that only most horrible people do. Same people who personally ruined her life and might d so again so fuck yes she suspicious of him. Not because of he has done because what he might be planning. Nobody dumb enough take some who is still most just a stranger to on his words at face value with a condition like that. It doesn't matter whether she wrong or not the point she her reasons.

>Only in his own mind. Otherwise they're even. Dumb fuck Subaru has a belief that debts from other lives carry over. If that's the case then Rem and Lam also have a debt they need to repay for grotesquely murdering his ass.

Irrelevant. It doesn't matter if people don't remember it. It only matter that he does otherwise he wouldn't care anything and never would helped Emilia at all. Your dumb if can't get that because it whole goddamn concept of series and why anything has any meaning in a time travel story.

It's fucking important to him.
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>>140606113
>And he went on to be friends with all of them. Too bad Elsa didn't get the same treatment.

It's awesome how the concept of context doesn't exist you vocab. Must be nice to be ignorant.

>I didn't realize Subaru did anything wrong, I guess he deserved to be mutilated and killed for smelling fishy

The hell are you talking? It has nothing to do with whether did anything wrong. DO not for fucking get that everybody even Emilia has found Subaru suspicious as fuck even without bring up Witch scent? Emilai and Puck themselves only started to trust him after he save their lives (and their original thought he was in cohoots with bandits). Rem is literally going to the same only it's much worse because he producing an evil power that only most horrible people do. Same people who personally ruined her life and might d so again so fuck yes she suspicious of him. Not because of he has done because what he might be planning. Nobody dumb enough take some who is still most just a stranger to on his words at face value with a condition like that. It doesn't matter whether she wrong or not the point she her reasons.

>Only in his own mind. Otherwise they're even. Dumb fuck Subaru has a belief that debts from other lives carry over. If that's the case then Rem and Lam also have a debt they need to repay for grotesquely murdering his ass.

Irrelevant. It doesn't matter if people don't remember it. It only matter that he does otherwise he wouldn't care anything and never would helped Emilia at all. Your dumb if can't get that because it whole goddamn concept of series and why anything has any meaning in a time travel story.

Ram and Rem's situation solvable because they still treated him well enough even if one of them suspected him of being dangerous criminal. Ironically even helped him get over his nightmares.
Rem herself had plenty of chances to kill him before the 4th day, but keep her concerns to herself for as long as she could.
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>>140606726
*Do not for fucking forget that everybody*
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>>140606726
>everybody thinks subaru is suspicious
Only Rem.

Rosewall is a prick who roughly knows who is Subaru and fucks with him because he's the kooky Kefka clown character.
Beatrice is best girl.
Emilia is an idiot savant who trusts anyone.
Lam is a dumb bitch who goes along with her sister's whims because twins.
Rem is a bitch.

>keep her concerns to herself for as long as she could
Holy shit she didn't murder him for no reason for almost 4 days! What compassion! So much restraint! Rem is a paragon of virtue! It's good to know after painstakingly gathering the evidence that Subaru was up to no good there is none she was able to mete out the justice he deserved!

Subaru did nothing wrong. He should've got the fuck out the moment he knew he was associating with psychopaths.
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>>140606241
>ecause you misquoted it's hard to tell what points you're trying to refute. Who was talking about him being in the manor? Hasn't he already paid back his debt to Emilia ignoring how quickly he seems to fall in love. He's not trying to save Emilia he's trying to save the twins. it's all well and good you bring up reasonable reasons he'll want to do something but if he makes his motivation clear from the get go save the twins because in his own words loves them. It's not because he knows anything about the witches sect and it's not because Emilia is in danger.

No because all of that tries into safeguarding Emilia. You probably forgot but he telling Emilia to lock her doors at night because somebody might after them. The 4th cycle prove that original culprit and Rem are to different people so even Rem never attacks Subaru everyone in manor is still danger. He just wants to help the twins too because he genuinely liked them and if the witch scent's is what causing the deep mistrust between them he then wants to find about how to deal with it rather then be forced to be away from Emilia.

It's not rocket science here.
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>>140606241
Hmm, Subaru went through the tour of the world where life is cheap and no one saves you from getting gutted in a wrong corner, where young girl have to be either a pick-pocket or a prostitute.
A kill-or-be-killed-relationship has been a friend to the humanity for a long time. By the time got to Ram/Rem arc, his instincts probably was reacquainted with that old friend and could not loathe at the fact that someone is trying to kill him because his blood and fresh had acknowledged that as a natural part living.
He was terrified obviously and was almost fine with Rem Ram dying. But a fundamentally good natured pretty girl was too much for his male instincts to give up.
All these things are actually rather relate-able, if everyone is trying to kill me, why not try to turn a pretty girl on my side? Why hate the murderers when that's the way of life?
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>>140606907

>Holy shit she didn't murder him for no reason for almost 4 days! What compassion! So much restraint! Rem is a paragon of virtue! It's good to know after painstakingly gathering the evidence that Subaru was up to no good there is none she was able to mete out the justice he deserved!

Yeah like what Ram was doing

>Subaru did nothing wrong. He should've got the fuck out the moment he knew he was associating with psychopaths.

Your looks like your too thickhead to get fucking clue. By you logic Elsa did nothing wrong before getting to loot house because she look hot and was look to frail a murdering psychopath

Please spare me the ignorance anon.
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Damn, a debate thread is going on here. Fascinating.
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>>140607092
See you seem to be missing the point, Emilia is fine when he wakes up he kills himself to save the twins, take note of that isn't killed but kills himself to save them not Emilia. and my point many many many quotes ago that saying you love someone so quickly suggests he's already pretty unstable. you're clutching at straws now. it may as well be rocket science friend at the rate we are accelerating from the point, his motivation for helping the twins is weak and rem is unstable. Subaru needs more backstory or atleast a better reason to want to die over and over for people. otherwise elsa may aswell get an arc where she isn't that bad. and he's positive even though rem said she was faking being nice to him, positive that she's a good person.

>>140607101
In a harem story there's nothing really wrong with telling multiple women very quickly that you love them. you don't look for strong motivations in a harem story like you don't look for water in the deserts. and you are right it's relate-able enough to want to get a cute girl not to hate you. but it's not a strong plot point to forgive people without reasoning, to go through a lot of suffering for someone who hates you. unless he's got issues that haven't been revealed yet he just comes off as an idiot. Now my nigga ken sagasaki on the other-hand....
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>>140607300
>Elsa did nothing wrong before getting to loot house

Yes. No reason to suspect her until she gives you a reason. It's how she got the drop on Felt and Rom and everyone else.

Subaru with his special powers was able to find out her true nature beforehand. Rem's special power was knowing that Subaru smells like shit. The same shit that killed her parents. Therefore Subaru must die.

Wait, Subaru must die because he smells like shit? Is that really the only reason she did it? Rem is a psycho bitch. That's a really weak argument for killing someone.

>the burglar who stole my television was wearing a red and white suit and hat
>everyone dressed like santa claus must die
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>>140607489
Whose side are you on? We'll have no fence-sitters in this thread.
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>>140607597
Falling in love with somebody means you unstable...?

What in the world am I reading?

>>140607605
>Yes. No reason to suspect her until she gives you a reason. It's how she got the drop on Felt and Rom and everyone else.

Yes, just like Rem had her reason. At least you finally getting it anon.

She not killing him because he smells bad, she doing it because smell mark as being a member of the only group in the world to produce it. And it is true Subaru is connected to witches whether he's aware of it or not. Most people cannot sense this presence which why Witch Cult member can come and goes as they please and kill anyone they want with anyone being the wiser and long before too late do anything about it. Rem is just not taking that chance unless she can know for sure he can be trusted and Subaru right can't come up a good explanation for why he has that scent.

Rem is only making her decision in best interest of protecting the manor because situation is unacceptable as it is to her without a clear and believable motivate from Suabru.
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>>140607597
>In a harem story there's nothing really wrong with telling multiple women very quickly that you love them. you don't look for strong motivations in a harem story like you don't look for water in the deserts. and you are right it's relate-able enough to want to get a cute girl not to hate you. but it's not a strong plot point to forgive people without reasoning, to go through a lot of suffering for someone who hates you. unless he's got issues that haven't been revealed yet he just comes off as an idiot. Now my nigga ken sagasaki on the other-hand....

1. Subaru is unstable.
Of course he is... He got killed. He is in an alien world where no one but Emilia is willing to help. And his summoner, who could even be himself, likely has done something to him.

2.Hating someone for no reason is difficult. My point was that in the re-zero-verse, murder is not, or in our history it had not been, a reason enough for hatred.
Dueling to death, waring to remove threat, eliminating opposing factions, even today that's a game gangs and nations and some individuals play. Do they hate? Some do and get blinded by that. Wiser ones, however, carry out the business dispassionately and make friends even with enemies for survival.
Vitamins today are not trying to butcher Americans right?
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>>140607597
Subaru isn't in love with twins, he's using love is an platonic manner. He saying wants be something like family member to them at one point. Emilia is only person he actually loves.
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>>140608052
If you really want to know you could try reading the thread, if you'd rather take things out out context carry on.


>>140608065
No you are mistaken I am suggesting he was unstable from the start, before he even came to fantasy world.
>>140601114

I'm sorry you're second point was lost on me. but I'd argue being murdered is a pretty good reason to dislike someone.

>>140608157
Assuming he isn't in love, that's even creepier.
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>>140608052
Rem has one example to go by to have her suspicions. Has she encountered the Witch cult any time after that one example? Is she the Van Helsing of witch hunters? How does she know that Subaru is bad enough news that he has to die just because he has the same smell? It's hardly a case for murdering someone. She doesn't know his circumstances and she doesn't know if all members of the Witch cult are bad. She's acting on impulse and she's a fucking wackjob. Subaru has terrible taste in women.
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>>140608277
>She's acting on impulse and she's a fucking wackjob.

Actually, suspicion alone has been a deadly enough proof throughout human history. You don't let a serious creeper wonder around freely in a post apocalypse world; where Lem lives.

>>140608269
Whether Subaru had been unstable before or had become unstable after he was transported into a fantasy world is a question without an answer.
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>>140608480
Yeah, that's why it's speculation. Like most of what in this thread, still it would explain why he get's so quickly attached to murderous strangers.
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>>140608480
If that's proof enough for you that's fine. For me I think she acted in haste and bad taste. Subaru saved Emilia's life and that's how she repays him? Goddamn what a piece of shit. Rem deserves to be skinned alive and her entire existence removed from the world.
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>>140608665
Well, that might happen several times...
You can't hate a lion for a lion being an lion.
You can't help loving a lion when it becomes your faithful pet.
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>>140608277
Dude, they live in a world they have been terrorize by insanely dangerous cult whose faces and actions nobody can even predict for centuries. It's not something you can be wishywashy about. The point is Subaru is connected to Witches and the Cult what that sense means and anyone has had extremely dangerous. On top of how unexplained bizarre and random Subaru's sudden appearance is to people at the manor general, having sign that unmistakbly marks him as being of member of vile organization in their history (which can be anyone) is enough cause for alarm for anyone in that world. It's not a wonder that Rem doesn't trust him.
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>>140608744
I wonder if the thread will be alive by the time of the episode.
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>>140608744
Didn't mean to reply with >>140608944.
sorry
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Is this show any good seems kinda like SAO which I enjyoed
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>>140608566
Yeah because he totally had the hots for intestine loving Elsa and didn't kick her in the face. Or didn't kill Bishop Sloth who clearly insane.

Nah, bro. Subaru hates asshole psychopaths just as much as anyone. He terrified of Rem later on but her actions don't make sense if she was just crazy killer. And there no way in hell Puck wouldn't know about it nor Emilia be friends someone like that.

Sure Rem is wrong but she's acting based on history not lolz.
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>>140609213
There's no real need to be sarcastic, I didn't say all murderous strangers, never called her a crazy killer, but that is probably an apt description seeing as shes unstable as fuck. Emillia trusts anybody, puck is asleep after 5pm.
Just because you have a shitty past it doesn't make you not unstable. My man read the thread.
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so emilia is a body clone or a vessel for the witch of envy
just like how the clone of beatrice is a vessel for the witch of greed
right?
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forgot the image...
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>>140608940
Clearly Subaru is in the wrong for existing. Rem has every right to kill him. If left unchecked he'll use his dark magic powers to get her to believe he's a good guy before he has her soul snuffed out and parade her body around because he's pure evil.

This show is deep, he even had me fooled.
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Eh eitherway I think Subaru and Rem are probably going to come some sort of understanding at this point. She looks like she has doubts on her suspicious about him this time around. Emilia having brought her watch to try and see how Subaru really feels was a good move on her part.
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are ram and rem virgins?
or do they take turns to please Roswall
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>>140609599
Ram is Rosewaal's buttslut.

So I think she's still technically a virgin.
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>>140609522
How does someone delibrately miss the pint so much? Are that ignorant to not know that human history is rife suspicion? Sometimes they are correct and sometime they are wrong?

The only reason we know Subaru isn't cult member despite the evidence of a clear link to Cult is because we follow him from a narrative point of view. The other characters don't have that luxury and have take risk with him. Rem doesn't mistrust for who he is, it for he might be based on her experiences thanks to Respawn has granted him. If he din't have Witch scent she would nearly be as unguarded against him. That's it.
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>>140609769
*guarded*
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>>140609482
It's one of many possibilities, yes.
Keep in mind she's also referred to as the Daughter of the Witch by some members of the cult.
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>tfw beatrice has a shitty seiyuu
why would they do this to best girl
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>>140610037
The most grievous news but she is mostly a side character till arc 4, so we won't be seeing her cuteness...
How sad.

By the way, I can't help but noticing everyone including myself is using Engrish or alike... are we mostly japs, chinks and gooks or euro fags?
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>>140610154

Probably, we American 1st worlders have much to deal with and cannot idly chat about Chinese cartoons.
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zero ja nai
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>>140610037
Fuck you
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>>140614148
no fuck you
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>>140614148
I don't dislike her VA but it was a completely unfitting choice.
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Today is the day, and holy shit I bet Subaru will die at the end of the episode.
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fucking spoiler your shit you double niggers
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When does it air from now?
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>>140618816
2 hours 30~ minutes.
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>>140618875
Dammit. I wonder if we are gonna keep the thread alive.
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20 mins
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>>140618875
>>140620297
Uh?
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>>140620534
That nigger can't into timezone, it does air in 10 mins.
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>>140620563
Is neetball even livestreaming right now?
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can someone give me link for livestreaming neetball on vacation right now.
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>>140616432
I think it is very fitting if you ask me.
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>>140620563
By air I thought he meant "out and subbed" and not streamed in gookland.

Not everybody can into chingchong.
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>>140620871
Just don't get mad because you didn't notice people are watching livestream all the time.
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>>140620870
I didn't ask you.
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stream on cd1212
refresh if you keep getting full capacity
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I read the manga and this is the only LN adaptation of this kind that didn't feel like twilight-tier garbage for teenagers written by a guy who has no clue whatsoever as to what he's doing.
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>>140621157
Those characters had no personality whatsoever in that series.
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link for webnovel pls!!!!!!!
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>>140621202
Really? In the manga they were pretty interesting as characters, or at the very least not dull.
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>>140560077
Where are you reading the novels at anon? Please help.
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Starting
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>>140620871
"Chingchong"

Racisme.
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>>140621312
>drill loli
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The 2nd arc is really dull, really repetitive.

And the MC starts to be annoying.
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>>140590554
So who is the shaman? A member of the witch cult?
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I suppose Ep 4 will be light hearted.
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>>140621512
A animal.
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Don't believe his lies
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>>140621568

;_;
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>>140621614
I want to puck Puck.
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>the manga translation is updating every few hours
wew
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>>140621259
Twilight.
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>servant walks in
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SLUUUUT
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quality time with emilia-tan
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EMT!
EMT!
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Emilia's hair style a qt.
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rip

and back to alive
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>>140622073
>>140622096
I thought it was supposed to be all emotional. And where is the ending animation?
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Are they already up to chapter 5?
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>>140622230
Yeah, I'm guessing they are going to take the rest slow. Either that or they are going to rush through this arc and spend a lot of time in the third arc
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Which one was the best girl?
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>>140621760
This guy knows about Subarus curse/ability right?
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>>140622421
He doesn't know the exact detail but he thinks Subaru have clairvoyance to predict the future.
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>>140622389
Rem, how is this even a question?
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>>140622389
Did he mind rape them?
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>>140622389
obviously ram, she a cute.
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Does the mc cry at the end after realizing the shit that went down?
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Wait, didn't the episode end?
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>>140622594
They just ended at the part where he realized he reset.
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>>140623074
I thought he was supposed to break down in tears. I wanted to see him suffer, dammit!
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>>140623137
There's time to get to that at the beginning of next episode.
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>striking the horse first before the general

MC is pretty smooth
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>>140623163
I mean, they could have had a bigger impact if they shown it at the end.
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I wonder if the Eva reference is on purpose
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>Rom
>Rem
>Ram
Why is this allowed?
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Is it safe to call Subaru the mc of the season?
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Anyone have a webm of the table scene from episode 2?
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The myth of Romulus and Remus bruh.
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>>140621766
We best girl now.
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>>140623410
>Not wanting to Ram Rem's Rom while you Puck her.
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So cute. And the banter between MC and Beatrice is awesome.
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>>140624266
Wow
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What does a jobless hiki ask for?

A job.
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>>140624266
>wanting anything to do with rem the butcher

That demon should be locked up, and her defective sister too.
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I was expecting it but nice cliffhanger
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>Still treating characters as if they were NPCs
Subaru why
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>>140561788

I'm a suffering aficionado, I love characters who struggle, stories that cause despair, but seeing its presentation is also part of it, so despite spoilers, I enjoy the discussion and the show, and manga.

So far liking the manga a lot, the anime has some good production values and character designs.
>>
I like it so far, but the loli in the opening seems really hate able
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>>140625269
yeah, she's index tier cunt
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>>140625423
But Index is one of the few good lolis in anime
What are you on about
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>>140623877
BEATORIIIICHEEEEEEE
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I really don't know what to think about the latest ep. unless he died off screen.
Or wait, did he died while asleep? That'd make the most sense.
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>>140625954
Yep. I think they could have ended it better if they showed Subaru start to cry, but he covers his face not to show Ram/Rom
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Get in the goddamn robot Subaru.
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>>140571313
The best part about that way everyone trying to find loops in the logic
>but why did he use rock?
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>>140622073
>>140622096
so does it also apply when he sleeps or was he killed in his sleep
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>>140627064
Being an anime-only peasant I assume someone murdered him in his sleep.
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>>140627064
The latter
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>Chino and Megu
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>>140627114
Now it's time for the murder mystery arc
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>>140627254
Kohaku and Hisui.
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>>140558125
I thought she was trying to test if he really didn't know anything about their world, like he claimed.
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>>140627302
I bet the lord what'shisface did it or ordered the maids to do it.
Loli is unlikely and EMT had no reason to.
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>>140627302
Not really.
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Where do you read de manga guys? I can only find until chapter 11, and it was releases months ago.
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OH SHIT NIGGA! who was?
I rule out tsun loli, emila, old man rom, felt, shoujo knight and puck

Bowel eater would have wanted him awake for it.
So that leaves clone maids and creepy lord.
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>>140627544
why rule out tsun loli didn't she fuck his shit as soon as they met?
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>>140627474
I wonder....
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>>140627584
She had all the opportunity to kill him but didn't.

And besides, if she left the library someone could sneak in and nigger all the porn from the stash.
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>>140627584
I don't really feel any underlying malice from her. From my experience of tsun loli's I can say her intentions are pure.
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>>140622770
this is calling for a shoop
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>>140627544
>clone maids and creepy lord

What if it's all 3 of them working together? They're all suspicious.
>>
How come Roswaal said that it has been 5 days since subaru came to the mansion in this episode? I thought it was 4 days instead of 5? Was it subbed wrongly?
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Could someone please give me a link to ln/wn English translation, please?
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Is this really going to be 2-cour?
It's really underwhelming as of now. I'm only watching because I had read the manga for the first arc, but it seems it won't get any more interesting than what people have spoiled here.
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>>140627302
>trying to solve your own murder
This is going to be great.
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>>140627823
Read the second arc manga.
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>>140621666
Right into the [unusual pupils] folder.
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>>140627823
Man, Rika had it way worse than Subaru and we don't see her bitching about her fortune.
Subaru really is a little bitch, huh.
>>
>>140627647
Probably right, still don't trust tsun loli though.
>>140627725
Honestly tsun loli comes off as the sort of person who would kill you with no malice, to her it would just be proper. I'm not saying shes prime suspect, prime suspect is count kefka for me at least.
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Do both maids suck master's dick?
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>>140620870
Agreed, dignified lolis are the best.
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>>140628061
This isnt even cute its just straight up creepy from both of them. They have to be the murderers calling it now.
>>
>>
Rem deserves her suffering.

She tried to kill him without even asking questions.
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>>140628061
No it's just her.
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>>140628156
DELETE THIS SICK FILTH
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Can anyone post a link to where I can get the second arc?
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Joker guy obviously killed him in his sleep, he clearly wants to manipulate emila-tan. I guess he gets to progress the more information he gets out of emilia.
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so has anyone translated the web novel or is google translate suffering in order?
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>>140628256
I'm trying to find the material online too anon.. Hopefully someone is able to deliver.
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So how long is time reset after death? 24h?
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Can you imagine doing everything right in a dating sim, and then your computer decides to update and forces a restart?

I would rage.
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Stay tuned my niggas as more suffering will continue.
God I'm loving this show
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What the fuck was that pacing, even as an animeonly I can tell.
It felt rushed as fuck, they even skipped the ED video for content.
Pretty decent cliffhanger though, I guess we couldn't go an episode without suffering.
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>>140628448
Can you imagine seeing all your friends die horrible every day for over a hundred years?
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>>140628447
>So how long is time reset after death? 24h?
Checkpoint system.
>>
>>140628448
But you can always rerun your last game from chapter beginning trying different routes.
Also, if you did everything right you wouldn't have DEAD END
>>
>>140628156
Half elves sure are cute~
So long witch aspects do not get a hold of them...
>>
>>
>>140628447
The Lord guy said he has been working there for 5 days now and now that hes reverted back to when he first woke up I assume its 5-6 days before he resets. I think thats where the suffering part of the story will come from knowing that whatever he does it will all be erased.
>>
What kind of scrub would kill someone while they're sleeping?
>>
>>140628518

It's setup and context for the despair in next episode.

Something comfy and slice of lifey before all the shit hits.
>>
>>140628338

Nah the dog that bit him is a monster and when it bites people it gifts them a curse to kill them
>>
>>140628256
http://marumaru.in/b/manga/58487

Always happy to help a friend in need.
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>>140628597
Someone in the mood of a midnight snack.
>>
>>140557307
The tan thing is annoying.
>>
>>140628597
you might want to watch Endride
or not really
>>
1. Someone killed him
2. He has a limited amount of time to accomplish stuff before he jumps back in time

Both of these are possible but if these are true, why didn't he go back to the apple stall? From a story pov in makes sense to progress with "checkpoints" so I assume the connection between him and Emilia are what causes the "checkpoints"
>>
>>140628518
Nothing "absolutely vital to the story" was skipped I believe, but yeah, thing are a tinny bit rushed comparing to the manga (I don't know how much of the manga is original content, though).
At the end of the day this pacing will probably give us the 5 arcs people say are already published so I'm okay with it.
>>
it was puck right never trust cats
>>
IT WAS THE DOOGIE ALL ALONG
>>
Oh yeah, that was my very exact thought.
>>
Make sure to count your Pucks when you sleep.
>>
>>140628788
You can't violate a veggie.
>>
>>140628607
there was a dog?
>>
>>140628767

LOL this pace so far is perfectly fine they are reducing the repetitive nature of it a litttle which is fine.

Good joke about the 5 arc thing. We're going to get to the end of the 3rd arc. This arc will be done by episode 10 and the last 15 episodes will be for the 3rd arc.
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>ctrl-f through the last couple re:zero threads
>LNs arent linked once
Aren't they translated?
>>
>>140628518
Pacing was perfect you retard. The point of the episode was to show the trivial things he learn and the connections he make with the people from the mansion. Putting the cliffhanger in the next episode would have been a horrible decision as it would have made this one pointless.
>>
>>140628852

HE GOES TO THE VILLAGE TO GET SUPPLIES AND HE GETS BIT BY A MONSTER DOG AND IT ACTIVES A CURSE THAT DRAINS YOUR MOJO AND IT KILLS YOU
>>
>>140628877
No, they aren't.
>>
>>140628600
Yeah I get that, but it just felt really fucking rushed.
If they wanted to give it an ominous feeling, they could've had that lord guy scheming to keep people interested. That way the episode wouldn't have been as rushed.
Entire episode just snapped around constantly between character conversations.
I get that it ended on a good cliffhanger point, but they fucked the good pacing from the first arc.

>>140628767
>5 arcs people say are already published
Weren't people speculating we would get 3 arcs, which are only what the LN has covered?
>>
>>140628767
>5 arc

Nigga wut, we are getting 3 at max. The anime will basically catch up to the LN by the time it's over. There's no way we will catch up to the WN
>>
>>140628877
LN are licensed by yen press
>>
not dis shittu again
>>
>>140628908
Did they even show this in the LN/manga, or was it just skipped like in the anime?
>>
Friendly reminder to animeonlys not to visit re:zero threads until the next day unless you want to get spoiled.
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>>140628877

NO
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>>140628999
Doge. Evil.
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>>140628999

I CAN'T REMEMBER ACTUALLY I THINK THEY'LL TOUCH BASE WITH IT NEXT EPISODE BUT IT WAS THE DOG
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idk in the manga is looks more terrifying
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>>140563708
Hve you found any link for WN translation? I failed in searching it
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>>140628709
His first checkpoint wasn't really Emilia-connected (he met her at the alley when he was being beat by the 3 stooges). We probably will not know what or who establishes the checkpoint until we know why he loops in the first place.

>>140628854
>>140628930
>>140628948
Oh, didn't know arcs 4-5 were still WN only.

>This arc will be done by episode 10 and the last 15 episodes will be for the 3rd arc.
How many volumes-long is arc 3?
>>
new thread
>>140627343
>>140627343
>>140627343
>>
____ the maids
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>>140628905
>Pacing was perfect you retard.
No it wasn't. Maybe if they skipped the OP it might've not felt rushed, but there was no breathing room the entire episode. It was rushed, even if you deny that it matters in order to get to the suffering.

>The point of the episode was to show the trivial things he learn and the connections he make with the people from the mansion.
By skipping half of them and important stuff like when the dog actually bites him? Great.

>Putting the cliffhanger in the next episode would have been a horrible decision
Yeah the cliffhanger was a good way to end it, doesn't change the fact the episode was horribly rushed just so they could get to it.
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>>140629211
Kill
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>>140629223
Actually, it wasn't put much detail back in the manga either>>140629065
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>>140629211
Plant
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DIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>140629223
Isn't the dog bite him a future event?
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>>140629211
rape
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>>140629211
Impregnate
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>>140629223
>No it wasn't.
Yes it was.

>Maybe if they skipped the OP it might've not felt rushed, but there was no breathing room the entire episode.
Most of the episode was just a breather.

> It was rushed, even if you deny that it matters in order to get to the suffering.
No it wasn't. No important detail or interaction was skipped

>By skipping half of them and important stuff like when the dog actually bites him? Great.
Like I said there were no details skipped. The anime has been following the web novel really closely. Also not even the manga goes into detail regarding the dog thing>>140629065

I'm glad it didn't go to details otherwise it would have been obvious it was the cause of death.

>Yeah the cliffhanger was a good way to end it, doesn't change the fact the episode was horribly rushed just so they could get to it.
It wasn't rushed you autist.
>>
>>140629211
>they weren't shota bros
Disgusting
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>>140629211
Feed
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>>140629405
Still miles more detail than the anime did.
It was mentioned for a split second and glossed over during a rushed as fuck conversation.
They actually show the bite in that page.

>>140629543
It was mentioned this episode.

>>140629614
Manga had him talking to Rem about the bite, not just mentioned in a shitty rushed way.
Also skipped >>140629176 and a fuck load of other stuff.
You say this episode was a breather, but it was rushed and felt more like a high speed chore to take it all in. Terrible direction and pacing.

Of course it didn't have any affect on the "important details" which weren't skipped, but making an adaptation with only key plot-points and no fluff or other content is fucking flawed. That's the theory of shitty anime adaptations rushing 7-8 LNs in one cour. Up until now this adaptation wasn't going that shitty route.
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>>140629543
Nah the dog bit him to cause the original death in this loop.

Then next time Rem killed him.

Then the time after that Ram killed him.

Then finally Subaru killed himself.
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>>140629968
I know that. I mean the scene where saburu mention it is a future event.
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>>140629926
>Manga had him talking to Rem about the bite, not just mentioned in a shitty rushed way.
That happened after the reset you fucking retard.
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>>140559701
Then why did Emilia said her name was Satella?
>>
What did she mean by this?
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>I was out and about and some creature bit me
>dies that night

Ehh...
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Great, people are taking these digifags bait.
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>>140628688
Thanks anon. I don't read nip though.
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