Muv-Luv / Total Eclipse / Schwarzesmarken

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I can agree with that

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>>140557022
saddamoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjQLTab4hkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4GvlU3xQKM

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>>140557134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3bcugvsLDg

>>140557134
I liked the earlier ones better

>>140557125
Did the Type-94 stab the cockpit?

>>140557236
Looks like it.

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>>140557022
fuck em both
Tank crews were the real heroes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0uZYAmk_qk

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpp208_pink-floyd-the-final-cut-film-complete-1983_music

Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is THE soundtrack, comrades.
He`s now working on his next album about interdimensional matress travel - when he`s not busy calling out the jew.

Also, commissar Gretel and Martin were lucky to attend to the last concert of the Puhdys https://youtu.be/7FCWNS02jP4

But you can't forget the classics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6ZtGpSH4g

>>140555925
>"I guess, we need you to introduce Farka to the rest of your Unit."
>"I don't have a unit."
>"OK, We need you to introduce Farka to your veterans association."
Haaaa.

This must be a bit of a shock for Farka: Irisdina Bernhard, legendary leader of the 666th, the best TSF pilots in East Germany, and their superior's/mother figure's arch-nemesis, at the edge of defeat at the hands of a baby.

Surely this must be a crazy dream.

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>>140557385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imBjHq1Hmhg

>>140557470
Babies are pretty soul-shattering when they don't shut up.
I mean them crying is specifically modeled after a sound that adult humans (specifically ones of reproductive age) find disturbing and attention-grabbing as shit or rather the sounds we find disturbing are at least partially based off the wailing of a hungry baby
It's even worse because she can't just shoot it. Or rock

>>140557522
Iris is not nearly as fucked in the head as Lise, so no rocks. Being a christian stoic, she`d suffer it through.

>>140557573
Iris doesn't act all that christian in BiS. I hope she confessed and stuff.
What type of christfag is she?

>>140557593
Fanon says Lutheran, canon does not specify.

>>140557652
>not the based Arian

>>140557593

She's from East Germany, so she's a heretic of either the Calvinist (Prussia) or Lutheran (Saxony) variety. Note that she wears a cross, not a crucifix.

>>140557678
>a heretic
t. Catholic
t. atheist who thinks baganism was so much more fun and therefore better

>assblasted catholic sodomites

Good, good.

>>140555925

Everyone is schocked at how quickly the formerly Colic infant has taken to Lise. Including Lise, Especially Lise. She's still somewhat less than comfortable around infants as a general rule, and the fact that her namesake clearly adores her is both shocking and deeply comforting for her. She warms a bottle of Beatrix's milk on the stove in a pot of water for the baby, before feeding it. Iris, meanwhile, seems tangibly at ease. She's talking to you and Farka.

"So, if I understand correctly, nobody who is alive here, today, really was involved in your death, and you weren't involved in any of their deaths?"

Farka nods.

"Well, I really don't see the problem, then. This place seems to be reserved for people who deserve a second chance at life, I suppose."

Iris really doesn't believe that, since as far as she was concerned, her life was a success, at least when she died. Pretty much everyone else who was there, including all of the people alive in your town today, consider Iris' efforts to be an unmitigated failure, considering everything that happened afterwards. However, her ego is somewhat more fragile than they suppose, and for her own sake she has to believe that she succeeded. Meanwhile, Lise has finished feeding the baby her bottle, and has rocked it to sleep.

"I'm taking out my IUD."

"No you fucking aren't."

"Watch me."

Farka chimes in, "What's an IUD?"

You and Lise reply in unison, "Don't worry about it."

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>>140557236
Yep, but the A-6 fucking hug the shiranui with him to the water and effectively destryong the two

note that his nigga anhilated flights of TSF's before going down

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STRIKE FRONTIER FUCKING WHEN

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>>140557775
>"I'm taking out my IUD."

At least get married first!

>>140557775
>watch me

>>140557775
What is this? Translation or fanfiction?

>>140558050
Ongoing fanfiction.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uMN28GtT68ZPP2gS2Tq5Ipm4yw_odDBLpS3qM_camg/edit?pref=2&pli=1#heading=h.wyrqlj68sz07

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i should have paid attention

>>140557775
What's an IUD
>bottle
Why doesn't Beatrix breastfeed you faggot

>>140558114
Thanks.

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>>140558185
>What's an IUD
pic related.
>Why doesn't Beatrix breastfeed you faggot
She's not here at the moment, remember?

>>140558247
IUD = a cute anime girl on Coogle?
>IUD
By the way
>The baby is cradled in her arms, supping upon a bottle of its mother's milk
Did Beatrix milk herself or something, or is this a typo?

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>>140557775

"Lise, please! let's at least get married first!"

You plead with your fiance.

"Married? Why aren't we married already? You already have my father's permission."

Lise Sniffs.

"And my hand. And we don't even have a date arranged yet. I feel like you're not being serious about this."

"Serious about this!? Do you know what I've gone through just to keep you alive?"

"You mean what Beatrix went through? Last time I checked you were only following orders."

"I was following direction, not orders! She knew more about everything that I could have ever hoped to!"

"And what does that say about you?"

"I don't know! I don't know what's been going on this entire time! I've just been making it up as I go along."

"That much is obvious."

Irisdina and Farka are staring at you, mouths agape. The infant, thankfully, is still asleep in Lise's arms. Your forehead feels tight, and there is an irresistible pressure building up behind your eyes.

"FUCK!"

You wake up the baby. She starts crying again. You don't care. You head to the door, and walk out of Iris' apartment. You pass Pham in the foyer, as she is coming home from work. You drive yourself home, and charge into the bedroom before diving into your pillow. This sucks. You aren't even sure what you are supposed to feel. You want Lise to have kids. You want to have kids with Lise. But this all feels so soon. It's all too overwhelming. You curl into a ball, painfully aware that for the first time in as long as you can remember, you're in your bed alone.

>>140558390
Perfect time for Terrordore to crash this fucking party.

>>140558346

you can buy milking machines and save mother's milk for occasions when the mother and baby are not present at the same time.

>>140558432
That sounds sort of lewd as shit, I thought milking machines were the stuff of monster girl doujins.
>>140558390
Are you tired lad?
Healanon's self insert is tired
The Master is going to appear isn't he

>>140558483

Breast Pumps might be lewd but they also perform a specific utility that makes them necessary for parents that want to raise their infants on breast milk.

>>140558579
But they're so lewd~

>>140558346
IUD is a contraceptive device women can insert into their uterus to strongly reduce the chance of a pregnancy

>>140558750
I looked it up.

>I'm taking out my IED

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>>140558390

For the first time in as long as you can remember, you're in your room, alone, crying your eyes out. You chuckle ruefully as you acknowledge that the last time this happened, you were twelve years old, but then a wave of emotions from the previous day rises up and overwhelms you, and you curl back into your pillow and continue to bawl your eyes out. At some point before you arrived home, Beatrix decided to go home, and the house is empty. Eventually, exhausted, you drift off into a fevered, tortured sleep. Eventually, you awaken as a body presses itself upon you.

"Fuck. Not another one. Fuck this. I'm burning this goddamned mattress,"

The person behind you pulls you closer, and you become aware of the voluptuous breasts pressing into you.

"It's not another one. It's the first one."

She squeezes you tight.

"It's me. And... I'm sorry."

You quiver into the pillow, unable to stop crying.

"I'm sorry. This is all overwhelming for you, isn't it?"

Roles reversed, she's pulled back a little bit, and is currently working the knots out of your shoulders with her thumbs. You shudder as the muscles in your back are slowly forced to relax by her relentless kneading.

"You never asked for any of this, did you? And yet, no matter what happened, every step of the way, you were always there. For everyone. For me."

To tired to cry anymore, you sink into the accursed mattress, but still, she's there, behind you.

"I'm sorry. I guess we have different time frames. For me, it's a fight to take advantage of every moment. For you, I guess you're stuck trying to make sense of it all."

Somehow, with every syllable she speaks, you can feel a weight lifted off your soul.

"I promise not to rush things. So... stay here. Stay with me."

>>140559079
H E A L I N G
F O R
T H E
H E A L A N O N

>>140559079
>"It's not another one. It's the first one."
That hits me where I live.

The only response anon can give is "You idiot. There's no where else I want to go but your side" or such.

>>140559079
Goddamn healanon
This is legitimately one of the better fanfics I've read

>>140559431

Thanks, this is the first serious writing I've done since 2011

Extra when

>>140559079
The boucle is being...boucled? I don't even know what I am saying.

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>>140558390
Oh shit, I thought you had somehow gone meta and the world was warning you again not to.

>>140559079
>You never asked for any of this

Damn son. Though good going, crying like an edgy hipster faggot. You're not even suffering yet.

I did like that bit, "It's not another one. It's the first one."

;_;

>>140559079
Men don`t act like this. Gay through and through.

>>140559079
Trouble on the home front I see.

>>140559776
>>140560071
To be fair, it's slightly surprising he hasn't shown greater signs of stress before this. I mean, he's been given the responsibility (by God or such similar cosmic force) of taking care of and helping to integrate into modern society a dozen people (and counting) from a war-torn surveillance state from another universe. Some of these people, by the way, carry heavy emotional baggage and show signs of PTSD, particularly the first arrival. Don't forget too the murder that was carried out not that long after the second arrival, and the those disposing of the body (technically making him an accessory to murder if you think about it).

That's a pretty big commitment in terms of time, effort, money, patience, emotional attachment, and so forth. And he's given that all without complaint or looking back. I would have expected him to show some signs of stress over all this happening in the span of a single year.


Though yeah, breaking down like this is pretty pussy. The normal reaction would have been wanting to be alone for some time while trying to come to terms with all the conflicting emotions. Not that it would change the inevitable result though. By his own admission, he wants to have kids with Lise at some point. This train is leaving the station, the only question is when.

>>140559079
What will Lise say if someone truly burn the matress?

>>140560543
In the real world, anon would have rightfully fucking exploded right there, especially considering muh competent beato bullshit.

Man sacrifices his livelihood for over a year and gets this?
Sign him out.

>>140560708
Agree.

>>140560543
Troo, troo m8, I'm just taking the piss.

You done good.

>>140560574

Nothing, she'd let her shovel do the talking.

>>140560708
Lise was kind of being a massive bitch there.
>lmao you were following Beatrix's orders
Yeah because Beatrix knew you personally you idiot.

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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWC_fcr6V-0

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>>140559079

You awaken later that day alone. All alone. The house is silent. You can't help but imagine that Lise and everyone else were simply a dream. A terrible, wonderful dream. You curl into you pillow, ready to cry again, but there are no more tears left to shed. Eventually, you realize that you have to pee. You crawl out of bed and stumble into the livingroom, when you see Lise sitting on the couch, watching an also-ran sports channel running a clay court tennis tournament, You take a deep breath, and a sweet, hearty scent enters your nostrils. You turn to the kitchen, and there are a couple of pizzas, an order of cheesey breadsticks and a case of beer waiting on the table for you. Lise notices your presence, turns to you and says,

"You have to pee right? Go pee. Don't worry, I'll still be here when you come back. I'll always be here."

No sooner than you emerge from the bathroom than Lise presses the first beer into your hands, and steers you towards your spot at the kitchen table, where several slices of pizza are waiting for you. You suck down the beer and toss away the empty can before you even turn to face the pizza. She ordered a Meat Lovers' Special and a supreme. Perfect. You tuck into the slices of pizza. You aren't sure whether this is a bribe or not, but right now you're too exhausted to care. Your troubles seems to slip away with every breadstick and slice of pizza you consume. Lise has her share, of course, a slice of each pizza, a couple breadsticks, and maybe six or seven of the 24 beers, but eventually, you're staring at four empty cardboard boxes and feeling pretty satisfied with yourself.

"So... This means apology accepted, right?"

You have a disturbing moment of clarity

"Not really, No... How am I going to know you wont take that thing out."

Lise looks genuinely hurt.

"What if I promise not to?"

"Promise not to."

"OK. I promise not to remove my IUD or stop using contraception until we're married."

"Apology accepted."

>>140561072
>muh supahmarket junkfood
Do you have other tricks at all?

Issues of trust and superiority aren`t resolved that way.

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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE

>>140561183

I don't think you realize how awesome pizza is.

>>140561240
I don`t think you`d realize the cuckening if it blacked you right in the face.

>>140561240
>supermarket pizza
>good

spotted the amerifat

>>140561295

>supermarket pizza

I don't think you understand how pizza works, but you don't buy it from a supermarket unless you're really poor.

>>140557022
Are we Pacific Rim now?

>>140561424
GET IN THE GODDAMN ROBOT THEO

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>MEANWHILE

Theo had cross over some invisible threshold, some imaginary line during the vision. It wasn't as if he was just watching it - he was there! The pain, oh, the pain! It washed over Theo like waves crashing on the shores of Hell. He was vaguely aware that he was controlling the Berkut out there...with expert precision too, but it seemed another planet away. Here, he was experiencing a tableau of memories.

>"So...Mr. Hohenstein, just so we're perfectly clear...May I assume this marriage of ours has your blessing?"

"No! Go away, he's not your father!" Theo yelled at the visage. He could suddenly hear that girl's voice again. She was curious, and yet sad because she could tell it was hurting Theo.

"But if he's not father's son...than why does he talk to his son?"

"Dammit, INIA! What are you doing? Why am I seeing this? Take me back, I have to save Anette!"

"B-but, I'm not making it happen. You are. You wanted to see her again more than anything, didn't you?"

"I have to save her!"

"But didn't you already?"

"Wha-no! She's dying right there! Come on!"

"But you saved Anette, a long time ago. Didn't...you?"

Theo realized he had been holding onto her shoulders in the mix of their internal landscapes. And now the girl was in his landscape fully. She was beautiful, a teenager if Theo had to guess, short, but with long silver hair on her crown, and a pleasant, curious face regarding him. The fortified suit of the old Soviet esper corps adorned her. She was looking at him scared, and sorry looking. Realizing he was holding her harshly, Theo let go instantly. Still she looked at him reproachfully.

"The one who wasn't saved...is you, right?"

"Why...why are you doing this?"

Instantly his vision shifted back to that room. He could almost sense what was happening.

>"Lise, I don't have a ring or anything, and I didn't really plan for things to happen like this, but, I mean, will you marry me?"

"Oh God, please, no. Lise, please...hear me..."

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>>140557022

You are a wise man.

>>140561626
Interdimensional meta suffering.
Nice.

>>140561626
ha ha! time for slavs

>>140561362
Yeah but you probably can't make it yourself either like the idiots who order ramen.

>>140557652

Pretty much a heretic, then. Still better than a communist, though.

>>140561770
>assblasted catholics boogaloo

Go suck a black rapefugee or something.

>>140561749

you can't make anything when you're locked in your room bawling your eyes out, that's more of a reproach for Lise than MC

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>>140561821

Actually, some of us hold to the Charles Martel school of though on immigration.

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>>140561953

Agreed. Argentines are not human and thus the papal seat is currently unfilled.

>>140562005
>mad cuz don't have a pope

>>140562072
>having a poop
>being proud of it

Wew lad.

>>140561626

Theo realizes he has Annette's cockpit in his hands and she's fine?

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>>140561626
The moment was here. Theo knew. Theo's eyes began to water. Why was he being forced to watch this? Did Lise want him to see this? Was this her revenge?

"Lise, please...don't do this...I love you. Can't you tell? Can't you hear me?! I know I messed up! How many times must I apolgize! I know they're dead because I wasn't strong enough! I know, if only I had listened then..."

Still nothing. The vision slowed down. He could still see the strange man ask the question whose answer he never wanted to hear.

"I've tried so long Lise, to say sorry! I've lived everyday...I've tried! Lise, please...say no. Please! I...I love you" Theo's screams lowered to a whisper, before he started to sob, head bowed, pounding the ground with his fists. It was useless. Lise's mouth had started moving.

"Theodore. your colors are so wonderful, so happy right now!"

"Happy? How...Inia, why do you say that?" he asked bitterly, his head folded between his knees. Yelling at this little girl wouldn't help. "Why don't you see? I'm screaming for this girl I lost decades ago, and out there, another person is about to die because of me." Theo muttered.

"That girl? The one with the beautiful red flame? She was dead long ago...right? You brought her back. "

Back? When did I?

"You did! She's lived as part of you since! Please Theodore..." Inia whispered, kneeling besides him. "You paint such beautiful colors. I...I want to touch it so badly."

"Colors?" Theo asked, raising his head slightly.

"Yes...it hurts, being so empty. You know how it feels too, right? That's why...if I can fill this darkness with beautiful colors, than I can help paint dreams!"

"Darkness?"

"Dark...here" she said sadly, bringing Theo's hand onto her breast. Hurting, cold. Someone she would never see. Lise was giving her reply.

>"I love you. I love you so much. Yes. YES!"

"Hey...Inia..." Theo said, turning to face her. A smile was on his tear streaked face.

"Yes?!" she replied happily.

"Let us paint"

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>>140557022
Posting best girls.

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>>140562775
Right here

>>140562757
Has he finally snapped?

>>140562795
no thanks i am not gay.

>>140561183
Nigga, shit may as well be Flavortown when it's food given out of love.

Pizza and breadsticks are supreme comfort food.

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>>140562775
>>140562795
Wrong

>>140562826
Just so you know, native chinks and nips often strongly dislike American pizza. Can't speak for germans.

>>140562826
>comfort food
>love

Ahahaha, holy shit.
Murrifat, begone!

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>>140562757
>Theo going Prafka even though he's not a psychic

This could be delicious.

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>>140562842
>>140562795
>>140562775

>>140561626
Well, Lise said he should suffer the consequences of his decisions. These are indeed the consequences he deserves.

"I'm sorry I disregarded your feelings and numerous (often brutal) sacrifices because I was caring more about what a busty, blonde onee-san type girl I only know for less than a year thought of me, and as a result I abandoned you and got you killed despite chances to stop/save you" doesn't really cut it Theo.

>>140562757
[Sound of glass breaking]

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>>140562955
>>140562935
>[Sound of glass breaking]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMtx9s9RTmc

Interesting...

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>>140562775

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>>140561626
>>140562757
But isn't apparently Inia note a very imoto?

How the hell is he gonna get any healing dammit?!

;_;

>>140563819
Vat imouto, fuck.

Will Theo get any healing?

Or does he not deserve any?

>>140563866
He has to die.

>>140563866

If we're going to talk about who deserves what, Theo deserves more than Lise, either by moral or effectiveness standards.

Here's what I wrote last thread. I'll be writing Part 2 in this thread hopefully.
http://pastebin.com/uyJ1khjP

>>140564032
t. Liberator

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>>140563866
Mercy and forgiveness is always an option, anon. Always.

This does not mean, however, that some things can be fixed.

Forgive, but never forget.

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>>140560989
fuck off commie scum
waffen SS or bust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENYwv4TL4LU

>>140564096
Theo receives news of a mysterious ace pilot using a familiar but incredibly outdated MiG 23

pls be Farka

>>140564392
SS as in sucky sucky long time.
You nazi larpers are pathetic.

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>>140564392
Stay mad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SgsWx4yrWY

>>140564411
It's a secret

>>140564719
Best ass of the BRD?

>>140564780
fug

>>140562757
What the hell is happening to that TSF? Whats with the powers bullshit...

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>>140564467
commie conscripts can eat shit
fallschirmjagers are wheres at
>tfw they took whole country by just using mostly pistols since your supplies scattered fucking everywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo_E6qOIcnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IIYMcdVW_I

>>140564924
noice, but why would she use a soviet scum TSF?
>>140564967
We Dragon ball Z nao

>>140564967
Espers and the Nastroyka Effect, son.

http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Nastroyka_Effect[/spolier]

>>140565071
fallschirmjagers vs VDV

Now that would be a battle that I really like to see

>>140564967
Alternative III

>>140565099
In memory of her fallen comrades and the guy she loved she lost in Berlin, or so she thinks. It's the Zwei she's piloting.

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>>140565160
on situation where both sides are fully equipped?
VDV maybe
but in the situation where supplies and ammo are scarce?
fallschirmjagers definetly
they also trained as light infantry so they can into innawoods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNhV1YoFCJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZjB931oIPw

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>>140565227
Shame that the MiG-29 TSF wasn't introduced until 1994. Otherwise it would be a nice reference since the only weapon system that got integrated from the NVA into the Bundeswehr was the MiG-29

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>>140565546
>black-red-yellow tricolor
why does that triggers me so much?

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>>140564967
Don't worry its still a bit passable bullshit due to espers effect . Also it's only effect is just making the TSF more powerful and the pilot more skillful

at least it isn't TDA takeru levels of bullshit

>>140565769
It's been a century. It's time to let go Willy

>>140565769
Because as any sane man you recognize that the Weimar Republic was a mistake
I'd have that flag but with the DDR coat of arms on it

>>140565848
The Wessir flag with the coat of arms ain't too shabby though.

>>140565993
*Wessie

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>>140565845
>It's time to let go Willy
his souls haunts me man
its like he is saying "why are you letting flag that bears the shame of defeat wave in skies?why aren't you doing anything to revive the imperial tricolor"
and im not even a fucking german

>>140566087
Everyone would mix them up with Yemen or some other middle eastern country.
>inb4 implying Germany isn't a middle eastern country now

>>140565805
>at least it isn't TDA takeru levels of bullshit
no it cant be that bad

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>>140566219
>Everyone would mix them up with Yemen or some other middle eastern country.
not if its pic related
planning to buy this flag along with the ottoman empire one

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>>140566375
>along with the ottoman empire one

I want to go fishing with Lise to give her temporary peace of mind then tell her to grab a rock and kill a fish she caught with it, just to bully her.

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>>140566538
what?
Ottoman Empire's flag was ballin as fuck
even better than turkey's flag imo

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FLAT
man chest

>>140567096
How rude.

>>140567096
Property of VG

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>>140566337
its literally bullshit because he fucking outclasses everyone and everything with his reverse grip Type-74 PB Blades while everything looks boring in comparison to how everyone moves so normally while he just spins, flips and literally ''pshhhhh nothing personnel'ng'' everything that you'll feel sorry for BETAs and the rest of the pilots

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>>140566697
Haha time for some Ottoman Palace Music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFPyO_BAK-I

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>>140567096

Remove kebab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9-mYg5VDzQ

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>>140567539
Defend Kebab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOGk_IWlPrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPQYiZU8Ets

>>140567650
Bomb the kebab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaEWJVWiWMQ

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>>140567539
>>140567650
>>140567764
Less Balkanposting, more Nobilityposting!

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>>140567993

>>140567993
>>140568061
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4sqMNHZxjI

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>>140567993
Belka?

>>140568156
Belka?

>>140560543
SHIT. Our protagonist still has Axmann's pistol.

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>>140568188
LONG LIVE BELKA

>>140567185

I agree. I would be hilarious if he went up against someone who actually knows how to use guns.

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>>140568156
>>140568188
Belka

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>>140567993
>Nobilityposting

Royal Guard is a shit!

>>140568244
Do you think Tama could have shot him?

>>140568321
>Curtis LeMayMay

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>>140568321
>>140568366
NUKE THE JAPS

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>>140568248
GIB BACK CLAY
LONG LIVE BELKA

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>>140568321
But this isn't a guardsman Curtis.

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>>140568433
BELKA STRONK

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>>140568110
>>140567764
Bekrija use magic tekbir to guide shell into weak srb position. Srb run from trench, artillery is faster. 2fast4srb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U67MRAPKXzU

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>>140567993
>>140568061
ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APYxjzV570A

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>>140568348

I use a gunsweeper loadout at medium-long range, or an A-10/A-12

Basically use one gun to shoot at him and another to lead him a bit much, then have the third one firing over his head and a fourth is whatever direction he can most effectively thrust.

In theory, accurate single shots can still be dodged; the idea here is to make it mathematically impossible for him to avoid all of the bullets. Then, no amount of bullshit can save him.

>>140568423

Please. LeMay and the XXI Bomber Command did WAY more damage to japan with firebombs than both nukes combined.

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>>140568449

No, that is a German, and he is Fabulous. I just wanted to get it out there.

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>>140564380
While its satisfying to see Lise get a happy end I don't think she would want Theo to suffer for any for given reason. She's invested to much already to prevent that.

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TSF Combat:
-TSF vs TSF:
Takemikazuchi > Berkut > Terminator > Shiranui II > Typhoon > Raptor > Fulcrum > Shiranui > Kagerou > Fubuki > Active Eagle > Rafale

-TSF vs BETA:
TSF vs TSF:
Takemikazuchi > Berkut > Shiranui II > Terminator > Shiranui > Typhoon > Fulcrum > Raptor > Kagerou > Fubuki > Active Eagle > Rafale

>>140557022
>>140557125

Where does this happen? TDA 02?

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>>140568776

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>>140568776
You forgot the Zuikaku and a ton of others.

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>>140568776
Put me above the Berkut and you would be right.

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>>140568776
>TSF vs TSF
>Raptor not number 1

In MLA, it is specifically stated that 1 F-22 can take on 7 Shiranuis, and that the 00C has only 20% better engine thrust as 60% stronger joints. With that in mind, if we assume that each step up from the 00C adds in 20% better engine thrust and 60% more stronger joints, and condense each upgrade as a 40% increase in overall performance, It would mean that even the Shogun only 00R would only be 160% better than the base 00C model, and 200% better than a Shiranui. That's still a 3.5 to 1 kill ratio for the F-22, you scrub.

CAN'T HANDLE THE FREEDOM.

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>>140569286
God bless.

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>>140569286
All Type-00's are better than F-22's.

>>140569286
>FREEDOM
America is the country that sabotages the success of other countries more times than anyone else and tries to take away freedom with hypnosis.

>>140569286
>>140569345
Literally lardfighter.
REMOVE MURRICA

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>>140561072
>Spend over a year healing Lise
>get a free pizza

Not bad

>>140564096
Taking a while to write Part 2 so I'll write an alternate ending for '86 instead.

==Adventure Express==
Theo turned the corner, narrowly missing gunfire aimed at him. He had only been on this base for a few days and now this was happening. Despite the BETA being on the doorstep, insurgents planted among the soldier attacked them all. Getting woken up by gunfire wasn't what he was expecting when he came here. And Katia...

A bullet zipped past his head, putting an end to that train of thought. Theodore got up from his crouching position and resumed running to the TSF bays, firing his pistol behind him while he did so. He would make them all pay, as soon as he got in the cockpit.

==

He had evaded or killed all who had come after him and donned his fortified suit. He should be somewhat safe from small arms fire although he did wish that the fortified suits came with helmets. He ran across the gangwalk, hoping that no one would notice him until he entered his F-16 Fighting Falcon. No such luck, the insurgents began opening fire on him. He was pinned behind his TSF, not being able to get to the hatch and open it without risking injury or death. Fingering his trigger, Theo considered jumping out and taking on the insurgents. It was a suicidal plan borne more of desperation than actual logic.
(1/2)

Is there a compilation of the Healanon story somewhere? I'd like to read the whole thing.

>>140569647
(2/2)
Steeling his mind, Theo prepared to jump out when the sound of rending steel broke his concentration.

"The hell? he asked rhetorically.

Peeking out, he saw the source of the noise. It was the MiG-23 Zwei. The pilot had slaughtered all the gunmen in mere seconds.

"Come on, get inside your TSF," the pilot said over the loudspeaker.

Too astounded to respond, Theo did as he was ordered and jumped into his TSF's now open cockpit. After going through the preliminary checks, Theo powered up his TSF and prepared to engage the insurgents. Suddenly one of the corpses moved. He was still alive! Before Theo could disengage the TSF locks and move out of the way, the man aimed his RPG at the F-16's cockpit and fired. The MiG pilot was mere seconds too late to cut him down with cannon fire.

"Theo!" the pilot screamed.

The last thing Theodor saw was the rocket propelled anti-vehicle munition heading straight to his cockpit.

==

Theo woke up with a start in an unfamiliar bed. Keeping himself from panicking, he looked around to assess the situation. On one side, a man he didn't know and on the other...

"Lise!"
[END]

Sorry not sorry

>>140569683
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uMN28GtT68ZPP2gS2Tq5Ipm4yw_odDBLpS3qM_camg/edit?pref=2&pli=1#heading=h.wyrqlj68sz07

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>>140569647
>>140569685
whut

>>140569772
I'm trying to write Part 2 of what I started last night but couldn't think of anything. I wrote this thing to try and get the creative process started.

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>>140568776

First of all, the Terminator is only at a generation 2.5 to quasi-3rd technology level, and generally inferior to the Su-47. It should be noted that the Scarlet Twins were using a super Su-37UB psyker custom and much of their advantage derived from the physic powers, not the frame itself.

That said, the Su-37 was a U.S./USSR collaboration design, and Su-47 was a development of it that attempted to reach western standards. Therefore, we can rearrange as follows:

Takemikazuchi >Raptor > Berkut > Terminator > Shiranui II > Typhoon > Shiranui > Kagerou > Fubuki > Active Eagle > Rafale

Making a few common sense adjusments to the lower end (what are you smoking?):

Takemikazuchi > Raptor > Berkut > Shiranui II > Typhoon > Active Eagle > Terminator > Shiranui > Kagerou > Fubuki

Then we consider how a TSF fight is likely to occur, and assume the combatants start more than fisticuffs distance apart. We realize that the F-22A's high sustained thrust gives it a reasonable ability to delay or flat out prevent being locked in melee combat, with it's stealth making it more difficult for the Type-00 to open with a flat-out balls-to-the-walls banzi charge and;

Type-00R ≥ F-22A > Type-00F-C > Raptor > Berkut > Shiranui II > Typhoon > Active Eagle > Terminator > Shiranui > Kagerou > Fubuki

>>140567185

Inferno Cop clearly the pilot.

>>140569811
So, you are actually writing now?

>>140569685
Looking forward the rest. Keep going anon!
Lise being alive would be the chance for Theo to redeem himself. But how did she survive?

>>140569894
Where is the rafale???????

>>140570032
On the junkyard.

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>>140569436

Actually they're all shit.

>>140569511
>Not noticing Japan using way more pharmaceutically-assisted hypnosis and the ohgodno.jpeg Russia gets up to

>>140569827

Posting pictures with speed lines is simply demonstrating that you can't actually make a coherent argument.

>>140569928
Yeah. Now I'm writing for real. Probably gonna take about half an hour to post the first snippet.

>>140569942
This is just a joke chapter. I'm not healanon. I just wrote a silly little crossover to get started with continuing by own thing.

>>140570061
*continuing my own thing
As I said before, this is a joke ending. I'm planning about two or three more arcs before ending Schwarzesmarken '86 so it'll be a while before you see the real ending.

>>140570049
America actively tries to fuck everyone else over far more.

>>140570061
Good
Are you going to do a pastebin too?

>>140570128
Copy that anon, carry on.

>>140570049
>Actually they're all shit.
No they aren't. You're just a stupid American.

>>140570163
I'll write Part 2 in snippets here and then compile it together with Part 1 in Pastebin. Might need a Part 3 for this arc though.

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>>140570049
>Type-00
>shit
Pick one

>>140570255
A-6 would rape the sh°t out of it.

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>>140570032

I rolled it in with the EF-2000; they were developed from the same design up until the French split primarily over the engine used. I can't find anything on the practical difference in performance between them.

And to be honest, both are probably at least comparable to the Soviet units. Probably better on account of the fact that the EU actually still has a functional economy and population base.

>>140570151

None of those countries would exist without active U.S. support, though, so it at least balances out. You can have the status quo, or the American Imperium vs BETA.

>>140570210

No, I just don't make judgements based on what has the most speed blurs and outdated weapons.

>>140570255

I'll take a weapon that can be produced in useful quantities.

>>140570350
And a Grappler would rape the shit out of an A-6

>>140558390
Took him much longer than I thought to snap.

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>>140570491
>I'll take a weapon that can be produced in useful quantities.

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>>140570520

I don't think I've ever come close to hearing anyone say anything so colossally, monumentally, and amazingly retarded.

I envy your ability to remain detached from reality to an extent that no philosopher or physicist in human history dared to imagine possible. At this stage, I recommend you consume a solution of dimethylmercury so as to transcend your last ties to this mundane world an become a divinity of your own imaginings.

>>140570728
30 units per year is pretty pathetic. Futhermore the Type 00 is an hangar queen.

>>140570728

We all know that's not canon. It's come up before; Type-00 total production is about 3 a month.

>>140570795
Let him be anon, he must be a retarded baiter.

>>140570858

It's more a diva than a hanger queen. It can be on the field for a reasonable portion of the time; it just requires spares folded over a thousand times and a princely retinue of highly trained specialists to do it.

The spares situation isn't helped by the fact that there are three different versions of it that do the exact same thing, but use three different engines and have a ±50% spread in capabilities and thus limited commonality.

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>>140568244
>I agree. I would be hilarious if he went up against someone who actually knows how to use guns.
The french were literally sharpshooting things and gun down a few shiranuis and was quite wrecking the japan-american flight

It's just that apparently due to his strange strange combat maneuvers the FCS or the targeting systems of the rafale's went haywire and confuse. Even the IRG commander, makabe were talking that if someone tried what takeru did then they would most likely died like an idiot. It was that just his maneuver concepts were so bullshit that everyone would be left to nuts about it.

Poor mechanics, gotta deal with his bullshit skills

>>140568816
TDA 02, right where the food plant got captured by the intruders

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TDA is when Shiranui Second got rolled out right?

>>140569436
Nope, even the inverse cast in TDA were mocking tat the super special snowflake parts that the type 00's need that if the resources were handed to shiranui productions then they would have gain at least 20 more type 94 shiranuis. Heck everyone in the TDA is so mad about it that they were calling the IRG's selfish pieces of shit . And the one calling them out was the daughter of the guy who provides the parts needed for the type 00

>>140571304
>Kids complaining about how adults work for the better
And?

>>140571133

I guess that makes sense, though it would mean that someone who seen it or the flight recorders could probably come up with a tactic to beat him reasonably effectively.

If might be as simple as fanning out by elements into a semi-circle and hosing him down, with the right aim-assist modification to track him and degrade your shot grouping.

>>140571178

The terrorists had replaced the Intruder pilots or something, and were using their ranged firepower to stand off counterattacks. With the plant itself as a hostage, they couldn't be hammered to pieces with artillery, and the firepower of the Intruders made the approach insanely dangerous.

>>140571283

Maybe. Assuming Total Eclipse went more or less the same way, then probably.

We do know that the Boeing Corporation took over the Type-94 line after Japan was destroyed. Considering that they were the American half of the XFJ project and responsible for adding that F-15 mod-friendly goodness, it seems safe to assume that the mainline Imperial unit used in TDA is the Shiranui Second.

Note, though, that the machine Yuuya used in the later parts of TE was something of a one-off super custom. Frank had requisitioned some of his work from the YF-23 to integrate into the XFJ prototype and decided that he wanted to see how far he could push the envelope.

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>>140571304
Adding to that not only that they are very resourceful eaters, if all the IRG mechanics didn't got evacuated to hawaii during the g bombs drop then the type 00's would be left unusable.

The only merit is taht they have longer work performance and well sturdy due to the special parts. But as they said they could have use it for more shiranu productions, because just because a TSf has a good spec it doesnt mean shit if the pilot isn't a good one

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>>140571629
>I guess that makes sense, though it would mean that someone who seen it or the flight recorders could probably come up with a tactic to beat him reasonably effectively.
The only one able to at least hold him for a few rounds were sagiri because he actually stayed and defend and didn't allow his type 00 to hit and run him or confuse him..only after a few rounds that he had to escape due to takeru and the nuke that was about to drop down.

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>>140571771
>a TSf has a good spec it doesnt mean shit if the pilot isn't a good one
The Royal Guard doesn't let shitty pilots have them.

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>>140571928
And also hibiki noted that the rafale's didn't stand a chance because they were overwhelmed in combat mobility and have let takeru bait them into being confuse or disorder. Apparently fear is a killer

>>140564096
Theodor walked down the street, heading home. It was already starting to get darker. Following behind him was Natalie, the strange girl who had taken to following him. Theo sighed and shook his head.

After recovering enough from the fight, Theodor had his ear yelled off by the matron. Against his expectations, she didn't fire him, but did tell him to take a few days off to both cool off and let things blow over. He was incredibly thankful for the matron's generosity despite her prickly exterior.

In no time, he was at the entrance to the apartment complex.

"You're not going to follow me in right?" he asked Natalie as he opened the door.

The girl said nothing as she followed him into the building. Theo almost clicked his tongue in annoyance.

"Don't you have a family? Won't they be worried about you?"

The girl didn't answer and looked away instead. Theo sighed as he rubbed the back of his head. Her hurt reaction confirmed that her family were dead. It wasn't an uncommon thing around these parts. He didn't want to imagine how she survived in the slums. While his comment did confirm something about the mysterious girl, it also set off an emotional landmine. Despite his better judgement, Theo felt guilty and wanted to make up for it.

"Alright look," he said "I'll let you stay in my apartment for a few days, okay?"

The girl looked up at him, surprised that he would offer this to someone like her. The happy smile that spread across her face, told Theo all he needed to know about her thoughts on the matter.

>>140571980

No, they don't let plebeians and commoners have them. You're birth status is the single most important factor in determining rank and equipment in the Royal Guard, with Takeru being a special snowflake case allowed due to the literal end of the world.

To wit, they sometimes induct battle-tested proven veterans into the IRG; they get the shit-tier equipment. Someone fresh out of training and with zero combat experience gets the best grade-if they have the right connections.

>>140572184

That was always an advantage berserker combatants had. It still always lost to Legion discipline and logistics.

>>140572569
I give her three weeks at the most.

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I see all these people talking about the TDA 02, but the translation isn't out yet right?
I wish I could read Japanese, just so I could play it for Shirogane 'psshh, nuthin' personal kid' Takeru.

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>>140572590
>Someone fresh out of training and with zero combat experience gets the best grade-if they have the right connections.
Pretty sure everyone starts on a Zuikaku.

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Oh boy

>>140572939
His name is Kurogane now though.

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Did they ever realize that they were secretly in love with each other?

>>140571283
no

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>>140573333
And her waifu.

>>140572590
>Takeru being a special snowflake case allowed due to the literal end of the world.
Well to be fair he was only allowed mainly because he survive the whole TDA operation 21 and survive alone and walk back home with probably his gekishit.

And that he was under yuuko and can also serve as a political hostage against meiya in order for her to back off.

though in the end they became reliant to him as a strike vanguard and at least proclaim him a hero in IRG

>>140573333
Dying again?

>>140573440
Property of VG though

>>140573426
So when was the mp Shiranui II rolled out then?

>>140573333
Shit, I meant to quote this post >>140572569

>>140573376

How so?

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>>140573388
I think there was some sexual attraction, but Jurgen trumped everything else.

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>>140572939
>I wish I could read Japanese, just so I could play it for Shirogane 'psshh, nuthin' personal kid' Takeru.

too bad your gonna play as hibiki

Takeru only appears at the end of TDA 02

And then made appearances in TDA 03 as the ''mysterious silent pilot that acts like a force of nature''

TDA 02 probably would have been released if the team didn't put it on hold when the kickstarter happen
TDA 03 have someone translating the lines but havent been heard sicen his last update on dec 2014

>>140573535
He changed it from Shirogane to Kurogane. Literally translates to black steel/metal or iron.

>>140573460
Wasn't Meiya vaporized?

>>140573477
2004 after Sledgehammer (which was its field-test along with the Gekkou.) See the Operation Sledgehammer TSFiA issues.

>>140573477

2004; the official designation was Type-04 Shiranui Second.

>>140573117

I was thinking of Meyia, who gone one delivered while she was still in training WITH THE HELP OF NEOPOTISM (The guy who delivered it to Yokohama was named KyojI).

She is an exceptional case, but when you consider she probably got something to the order of 20% of all Type-00R units made that year...

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>>140573639

That fucking sucks. I hope all the chronicles get released on steam eventually.

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>>140573684
No, before the operation happen, she probably got pulled out to act as the body double for the shogun since she is sick.

Though she is better off dead when she worries too much about takeru and he just doens't give a shit

>>140573652
Nah, he's named 1LT Shirogane in the TDA text. Kurogane Takeru's from a gag art (anyone got that one with Takeru going "WTF happened to me" at his IRG future self?)

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>>140573535
because his not shining silver anymore because he wears black and is edgy?

>>140573861

It's a joke on how much of an Edgelord he's become. In fact, he could probably get Meyia to declare him a Peer Of The Realm or whatever the elevens call it, he could literally be Lord Edgy.

I mean, he holds his swords backwards.

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>>140573861
This one?

>>140574093

He needs an prominent but unusually shaped an attractive scar, and heterochromia.

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>>140573981
>ikaruga tells him that his skills are worthy enough to be the shogun's guard
>meiya will obviously would allow him to be her retainer
>doesn't accept it because his an eishi and he will only do eishi things and his fucking edgy and like working for the homo bros

>>140574093
Yup, that one.
>2006
>Unlimited
>K̶u̶r̶o̶Shirogane Takeru
>T: ...What the fuck happened to me?

>>140571133
>that flip and landing on the back
kek, thats literally slice in back tier

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>>140574208
>working for the homo bros

Takeru confirmed for prison bitch?

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>>140573850
why is he doing this to her?

shouldn't he care more?

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>>140574363
nah, his just literally controlled by the homo bros for some reason

>shouldn't he care more?
nope he doesn't give a shit and he became eishi centric. He even arrested Marimo like he doesn't give a shit about his former instructor.

>>140573850
Then who got vaporized with the Type-00R?

>>140574649
yuuhi maybe?

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>>140574447
>shouldn't he care more?

Yes, but I think we all know who is responsible.

>>140574691
But the reason they took Meiya was because Yuuhi was sick wasn't it?

>>140574773
>>140574691

Well, Yuuhi wasn't exactly sick. She was looking at the Empire of Japan at about the same time as she experienced what alcoholics call a moment of clarity.

Then she decided that she didn't what to live on that planet anymore, and NASA was willing to hook her up, so Chief homo bro needed a replacement Shogun in a hurry.

>>140574692
bestgirl

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Why did 4 mount pylons never catch on in japan?

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>>140574692
It's funny how everything was actually going so well in TDA that when takeru found here glass tube destroyed it and cried. Bad things started happening

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>>140574447
well he did glare and change his expression when the red homo bro started talking about how amateur meiya is in politics. Beside if he didn't care then he wouldn't have been motivated not to die when hibiki told everyone that the shogun would be mad if they die in the hive or when he shouted her name when he was escaping with hibki from a exploding hive reactor.

>>140575109
Alive Sumika = everything is better.

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>>140575085

>Trust me, the Shiranui Second doesn't look like the YF-23 at all

They were originally a unique unit on the YF-23. Frank dug them up and modernized them for use on the XFJ Phase 3 Unit A, but judgng my the offical model, not the MP unit.

It would also probably be more accurate to call them 'Double Mount Pylons'. The normal setup is to have a pair of pylons on the back of the frame that each carry one weapon. On the YF-23, the pylons were moved to the shoulders, and each held two weapons (either an XAMWS-24 assault rifle or a XCIWS-2B sword - both stillborn prototypes made in conjunction with the YF-23). The two mounts did not articulate separately; if they both mounted guns, they would both aim at the same azimuth.

I don't know why they never caught on; maybe they were more prone to breakage or wore out quickly.

>>140572569
Theodor wasn't sure exactly what the girl would have wanted to eat for dinner so he made some Linseneintopf, the soup she was served at the soup kitchen. Living alone for a few years now, he had learned to cook himself with a bit of competency. Making some German food reminded him of his childhood when Mrs. Hohenstein would make dinner for the family. With fond memories of his family in his heart, food preparation went by quickly. He set the table and went to the living room which contained the TV to tell Natalie to come eat.

The little girl had been entranced by the TV as it was her first time actually getting to change the channels and watch what she wanted. Usually when she got the chance to watch a TV, someone had put it on a news or sports channel. Natalie was watching some tv channel that played music videos. She seemed to be enjoying the song currently playing, a 3 year old West German song that Theo recognized, having heard the Wessies listen to it during Operation Neptune. Something about red balloons.

"Natalie, it's time to eat, he said from the entrance to the room," he said.

Seeing her look somewhat disappointed while getting up, he added "You can keep the tv on."

With the now happy girl practically skipping to the kitchen, Theo suddenly felt a deep sense of loss. His quiet and peaceful days in the apartment had been destroyed and now he was going to be eating dinner with a little girl he picked up off the street with 3 year old pop music playing in the background.

"Well, things could be worse," he thought to himself as he shrugged and went after Natalie to the kitchen.

>>140576025
Somehow I've started writing a father-daughter slice of life story. Wew lad.

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>>140575257
hibiki knows how turn the YAMATOOO DAMASHIII inside takeru

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>>140575257
Not him, but I am happy thats the case. Here is hoping for weeding crashing ala Extra style with Takahashi.

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>>140574692
>dat pic
no stop, STOP! MEMORIES ARE FLOODING BACK!

>>140576216 fuck me this post >>140574447

>>140575109
Hold up, it was confirmed that was S00mika's?

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>>140576060
Sounds to me like you wanted healing after all. You inserted a cute, innocent little girl and expected to have the guts not to fall into that trap? Do you have what it takes anon? Can you make this a suffering story? You invented that girl, can you crush her spirit?

>>140576103
This makes me feel warm inside.

>>140576329
Just look up Natalie from Total Eclipse for my answer.

>>140576329
I want to molest those pristine legs.

>>140576315

I think so. If I remember correctly, the USS JFK was transporting the Brain when it was washed ashore or whatnot. The crew and airwing established a naval station that served as a helpful layover point for people GTFOing from Japan, until they got overrun by Baters. The Baters then built a Hive there, and took the Poor Defenseless Brain back, until Takeru found it and crushed it between his hands.

Or it could have been some other brain.

>>140576405
"Invented" wasn't the right word, but creating the circumstance that leads to where she goes, as well as filling in some of the gaps for Theo. Nothing wrong with writing about a happy time for the both of them.

>>140576709
I see, yeah come to think of it Capitan did mention that they have top secret cargo and info.

Still, I find it hard to believe it is her since in Ultimate they always need BETA CORE FLUID ENERGY THING to sustain the brain.

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>>140561072

It's later that night. You're lying in Lise's arms. Normally, it feels like she's clinging to you, or is otherwise stuck on you. Today, she's the one holding you, gently stroking your hair as you drift in and out of sleep. It's times like this that you remember how strong of a girl she really is. After everything she's been through, you suppose she doesn't have much of a choice. Her only opportunity to be vulnerable is when she's with you, and she realizes that she almost lost that today to her own selfishness.

"I love you."

You open your eyes. You know she loves you, but it's rare that she ever says as much. This is only the third or fourth time since you've know her that she has said those words.

"It has to be you. It can only be you. Nobody else would know what you know about me, and accept the whole me. So, I don't want to do anything to jeopardize that."

She leans over, and plants a kiss on your lips, sneaking her tongue into your mouth for a moment. Her breath isn't exactly great, it's sort of a combination of garlic, cheap beer and your own semen, but the affection with which she plants the kiss manages to drive all of that from your mind. She sucks on your lower lip for a moment as she pulls her head up, then smiles lovingly into your eyes. She shifts herself, and instead of sitting on the bed holding your head, she's now lying beside you, squeezing your hand. You drift off into a deep, dreamless sleep, and awaken again as the sunlight is creeping through the window. You hear a knock on the door. When you answer it, Farka and Pham are standing there. Apparently, Farka spent the night with Irisdina and Pham. It must have been pretty strange for her to spend the night on the couch of her enemies, But right now she seems worried for a different reason.

"Are you two alright? Everyone says they've never seen you fighting like that."

You smile, "It's fine, everything is fine now. I guess it's just a normal part of being a couple."

>>140577016
>"It has to be you. It can only be you. Nobody else would know what you know about me, and accept the whole me. So, I don't want to do anything to jeopardize that."
GOODBYE
THEO

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>>140577016
>dat pic

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>>140577016
>>140577109

>>140577016
>Her breath isn't exactly great, it's sort of a combination of garlic, cheap beer and your own semen`
ew
>It has to be you. It can only be you.
WHERE IS THE PUNISHED THEO ANON
HERE IS MILLION DOLLAR MATERIAL

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>>140577109

Well I mean, Theo is the reason she feels that way, isn't he?

>>140577220
You blew all your chances, Onii-chan.

>>140577220
She gave you chances you threw them all away lad
Life is defined by the choices we make, the opportunities we take, and the ones we failed to grasp.

>>140577016
She's doing it. She's gonna be okay

Good job Healinganon

>>140577353
More like he used 40 pounds of C4 on them

>>140576984

Not quite - they needed to leak sensitive information to sustain the 00 Unit, but Yuuko made it fairly clear that Sumika was NOT the 00 Unit. The 00 Unit is not a cyborg; it's a supercomputer running a real-time simulation of Sumika. Also, the brain, which was the 'real' Sumika, died when the 00 Unit was activated; probably as a consequence of the (probable) impossibility of truly copying quantum information if we were using real quantum theory.

Plus, including a human brain would defeat the purpose of a zero biological basis, zero human lifesigns system.

>>140577353

We should shit on Beatrix by the same logic!

>>140577566
Why though? Beatrix never blew her chances at love, her love was literally barred from being consummated on pain of death and he got shot in the end anyway.

>>140577657

Oh, we were talking about love specifically. I was thinking more along the lines of being a decent human being generally.

>>140577763
What the fuck does 'you blew all your chances onii-chan' in the context of the reply chain have anything to do with being a decent human being

>>140577763
No such thing in war.

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>>140577509
>The 00 Unit is not a cyborg; it's a supercomputer running a real-time simulation of Sumika.
>Also, the brain, which was the 'real' Sumika, died when the 00 Unit was activated;
Holy shit, anon you are turning my world upside down. I need replay the games soon. Fuck Äge should hurry up with the Steam release.

>>140577763
It would be hard to remain a fucking decent human being after what she went through. Granted, Theo has it tough too, but at least he was given the opportunity. Consider that other characters like Sylwia (who could've turned into another Beatrix had she not met Irisdina or gotten her revenge) and Gretel were pretty shitty people, but had the support they needed unlike Beatrix.

>>140577925
Its sumika, she even remembers all the crap

>>140577978
Theo had the support and turned it down
The Master approaches

>>140577993

Right, it's a complete real-time simulation. If you were able to pull a complete model of the brain and virtually re-create every synaptic connection and had a perfect working understanding of how the human brain worked, your simulation would be a perfect replica of the original.

Granted, in a realistic scenario it would experience the world differently and start to diverge, and it would be nearly so easy to get that perfect initial state, but it's not as if Yuuko wasn't already a plot device anyway.

>>140578068
Theo had Katia, and Katia did for him what Lise wanted to do but never could.

>>140578367
Katia obviously did not do a good job if Master actually is Theo.

>>140577978
>but at least he was given the opportunity

No.

A person can only be said to have no choice when they are absolutely deprived of free will; the point at which they have been effectively reduced to a meat puppet. Beatrix, certainly, never reached that point and quite likely experienced less shit than several other characters.

>>140578496
So who was the worse person, Master or Beatrix?

>>140578580
Master.
Beatrix was high on acid but genuinely believed she was going for the Greater Good and had an endgoal of saving humanity - or at least stopping their fall for as long as possible.
Master was a filthy race-traitor in the purest sense of the word, he's like a melting pot of ISIS, Edgemaster9000 from your generic edgy mango, and Merkel. I can't think of a single redeeming quality.

>>140576315
The JFK was holding a part of Yuuko's prophetic reports that according to makabe were from the Yokohama base and including that apparently the brain. Though takeru did probably recognize the brain tube as its sumika since there were hundreds of them in the main hall and didn't give shit about any of them until he saw that tube

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>>140578367
C'mon man don't try to pit the imoutos against each other. If it weren't for Lise Theo wouldn't even still be alive in the first place.

>>140578555
In the grand scale of suffering, it would probably go

Lise>>Sylwia>Beatrix>>Irisdina>Theo>Gretel

You could possibly swap Beatrix with Sylwia. Sylwia had some horrific experiences, even having someone who was basically her sister condemn her to rape in a moment of cowardice (and then brutally killing said friend afterwards), but then, she met Iris, Walter, and Pham and they helped heal her. Lise and Beatrix are trapped in a cycle of mindbreak that neither feel that they can really escape.

>>140568776
No it's Gekishin>All and Grappler>All BETA

>>140578827
>Yuuko's prophetic reports

Inb4 Yuuko sabatoged Operation Babalyon to discredit Alternative V.