What makes Berserk so great, /a/?

>>140439955
The shopping episode.

>>140439955
Just one word: hiatus

>>140439955
guts / griffith / caska dynamic. the huge ass sword. the wtf moment that changes suddenly everything. the berserker armor. the mystery sourrounding the skull knight. the love for tasteful battlegore. the dürer class drawing quality. the subtle harem theme

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bags and lolis

>>140439955
Shakespearean themes make it good up until the eclipse.
EVERYTHING after that reeks of shit.

>>140443006

Your opinion reeks of shit

It's the hardest

>>140443006
It's just less good.

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>>140443006

>>140439955
Character development
Decent choreography on action scenes for a manga
Nice art
bags and boats

Rape.

>>140443006
>Hating the Retribution Arc
I'm offended to be sharing this site with someone whose taste is this shit

>>140439955
EPIC scope
World setting
Character development
Grim and dark, but not muh edginess
Excelent art with lots of details
The best lolis

>>140443006

>/v/edditors will disagree with this man

We all know that Berserk is edgy shounen at this point guys, stop trying.

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>>140444656

Idol m@ster.

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>>140444656
>le edgy maymay

>>140444656
Maybe 10 years ago

Golden Age arc, and the Eclipse.

That's it.

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>>140443006

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Post your favorite spread, /a/.

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>>140446689
Obligatory

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>>140446689
Always

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>>140446689
Posting some one pages too.

>>140446883
Is there nothing but suffering in Guts' eyes?

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>>140447085
Sometimes there's happiness.

Which makes the suffering 100 times worse

>>140439955
It's edgy pretensions bullshit with no real story and gore fags like you guys where easily impressed by "edge the anime"

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>>140446689
Really looking forward to a higher-res, non watermarked version of this in the upcoming volume.

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>>140447181

>>140447181
is this bait?

>>140443006
Nah, it was just less good but still readable. The point where the series truly go to absolute shit is the troll arc.

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>>140447181
>no real story
If you mean in the sense that it'll never be finished, then sure

R I P & T E A R
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and his fucking name is Guts

>>140446883
God damn it. We fucking reached the island, and there's still no change for Caska. If we have to wait another 2 years for a resolution Miura just dicking his readers around.

>>140446689
>Guts is actually panicking, sweating and crying out loudly
>He doesn't know what to fucking do anymore

What a great fucking character. He's badass as fuck but he's also very vulnerable. It's human.

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>>140447181
>pretensions bullshit

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>>140446689

>>140447355
Berserk is great all around. Conviction arc is better than the golden age and it only becomes less good after the millennium falcon but is still pretty damn great.

>>140443006
Lost Children arc is the peak of Berserk and Guts as a character th, so basically right after the eclipse is the peak of the manga

>>140448421
You mean Tower Of Conviction. That's where everything great about berserk just comes together.

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>>140439955

>>140443006
Name me one fucking "Shakesperean theme," you illiterate fuck.

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>>140448650
Not that anon but he's probably referring to the medieval/renaissance setting and the tragic ending of the hawks killed by their own leader's ambition.

He's still full of shit as the rest of berserk has great themes.

>>140446883 God damn this art is so good

>>140439955
It's one of the few manga that is wholly unique.

In a landscape where most other people are doing variations of the same shit over and over, it stands out as a icon.

There's a reason most good manga/anime have their own art-styles, it's an indication that it isn't a braindead rehash of the generic moe/shounen shit that's infecting the entire industry.

>>140439955
i wish it was over more than i wish it would continue at this point

>>140449033
You may have a point. I'd rather it finishes already than having to wait another 12 years for an arc to finish.

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>>140446689

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>>140439955
I don't know, but I just got this because I love berserk so much.

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>>140446689

>>140449281
That's pretty cool

Post more pics

>>140439955
Boats, and sailing mechanics.

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Gonna dump one of my favorite fights.

So get comfortable /a/.

>>140443006
Even though it becomes objectively less good, it's still a great time. Considering that it's all in constraints of one story it's nice to see our man Guts get healing and recognition in some form. Sure, now it's more of a powertripping fantasy story but it still works thanks to it's roots and overall sense of doom that lies over Guts.

The whole work is great because it's got everything right: themes, characters, overall plot, conflict, lore, atmosphere, worldbuilding and shitton of cool moments.

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>>140449704
Griffith's such a prick.

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>>140449788
I can feel myself start to get angry already.

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>>140449281
Looks like he has little heart pupils

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>>140449856
Is anyone even here? Should I stop or not?

>>140449999
No, this is interesting. Are you not just dumping them automatically through 4chan X so you don't have to submit manually?

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>>140449999

>>140449999
We're here anon, just marveling in the beauty

>>140449999
post more, faggot.
That's my favorite fight too.

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>>140450025
No.

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>>140450056
Haha griffith's a prick.

>>140449704
You can see him on the verge of tears down in the bottom panel. Love it

>>140449999
All of Griffiths problems stem from the fact that he's an arrogant asshole. Literally one person tells hims "no" and her gets massively butthurt and he throws it all away. This is what happens when fate literally aligns causality itself to make shit effortlessly fall into place for you. So when the one man strong enough to stand against fate shows up, Griffith spazes out.

>Oh know I have to actually try for once. My unearthly good looks aren't workin for shit.

Literally no appreciation for the people he sacrifices for his dream. Well guess what Guts says fuck that and goes his own way. Griffith is gonna get his for sure.

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>>140450096
I know right? Its why guts is so great. He may be a badass but he's vulnerable and shows emotion like a human being.

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>>140450117
Nosferatu Zodd is so badass.

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>>140439955
It will never be finished in my life time.

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>>140450328

>>140439955

This is an popular opinion, but possibly like the aristocratic schemes and people wearing fancy pants in the golden age arc most.

The juxtaposition of a rough band of mercenaries coming up and interacting with the noble hierarchy made things interesting too.

>>140439955
HxH is better Tbh

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>>140450363

>>140439955
MC not being a beta

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>>140450388

>>140439955
the cute witch

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>>140450328
>>140450311
>>140450284
>These detailed fights are gone in favor of loli magic and batman armor spinning

Miura, pls

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>>140450429

>>140439955
The first 200 or so chapters.

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>>140450412
Ah fuck I think I missed a page. And it seems to be missing from my folder. Oh well Ill just post the rest.

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>>140450452

>>140450429
I just miss when puck was full bodied, chestnut puck isn't bad but I miss seeing him normally

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>>140450429
>>140450452
>>140450496
They're still badass and guts is supposed to be fighting moreso on bestial instinct than skill when he uses that armor.

>>140450517
>full bodied


It mad e me uncomfortable.

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>>140439955
It's got the most handsome man ever as it's MC

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>>140450633

>>140450633
I like how Zod is skilled instead of just another dumb apostle. Wonder if he will die in this series/what his backstory is.

>>140450552
The lost children/elf arc was even more unsettling.

Watching a guy fight monsters that range from typical dragon shit to eldrich horrors to chimera-esc abominations is fun. Guts as a character isn't insanely interesting but he's oddly relateable and he's just strong enough that it's fun to do the schoolyard
>Oh man but could Guts beat uh, Sonic the Hedgehog?!

The art is also fantastic and it more or less flows like a video game so it's easy to follow and progressing through it is both interesting and rewarding. Basically it's just the best kind of vanilla. Like a super high quality french place.

>>140439955
That fact that it is never going to get a proper conclusion. Partially because Miura doesn't update it, and partially because because he doesn't want it to ever end. Because just like in life, there is no ending.

>>140450703
>408x473

What are these

ant guts?

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>>140450736
I needed it to be small enough for my steam profile, sorry friendo

>>140450728
Is part of the suffering of Berserk.
We share the pain of Guts in the form of hiatus and no ending.

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>>140450936
And guts wins round one.

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>>140446969
this

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>>140442822
>berserker armor
The berserk armor was a mistake.
Everything turned to shit after its appearance.

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>>140451352

>>140451178
I love this fucking panel and this fight. It ranks right next the fight against Rosine and Mozgus/torturers imo

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>>140451556
Sorry for taking so long anons but Im multitasking at the moment.

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>>140451684
Doing God's work anon

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>>140451711
I wonder what would've happened if casca died here.

>>140451740
A few happier years without boat memes

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>>140451740
What music are you listening while you read anons?

>>140451814
Medieval hymns sung in Church Slavonic, Latin and Church Greek.

>>140439955
Guts.
Powerful characters allways bring respect and admiration.

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>>140451814
Whoops, missed a page.

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>>140439955
Schierke is a miracle of the universe.

>>140451885
Yeah guts is a very interesting character. Even moreso with the dynamic he has with other characters(puck, griffith, casca)

>>140451913
This man is correct. This man is just. I hope you have a good day anon.

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>>140451893
Is it NTR /a/?

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>>140451913
This was the one page that made me laugh (as well as pic related). Not being obeyed is easy to relate to.

>>140452258
kek.
I hope they will animate this part in the new animu.

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>>140447181

>>140449281
I'm 20 and still live with my parents anything I buy would probably get thrown out cool stuff though

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Can someone post bag edits? They're hilarious

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>>140452006
I was waiting for more, but just realized that's the end of the fight, and that's all you said that you'd post.

I'll post the next few pages but that's it, because I have things that I need to do, sadly. Berserk threads and read-alongs on /a/ are cozy, so this thread is double cozy.

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>>140452510

>>140443006
It becomes every other Manga just with more sex after the Lost Children. I feel they squandered a lot of potential.

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>>140452632
Maybe we could convince Miura to stop wasting chapters on all the side characters nobody cares about and focus on Schierke.

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>>140452761
I have no idea how was Miura able to make a loli witch work in this setting

>>140452815
Because miracle of the universe.

>>140452490
I apologize anon something came up and I couldn't finish the chapter. Wanted to dump another fight as well.

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>>140443006
This is quite true. Eclipse NTR porn is overrated and you all know it. The plot slows to a crawl after the eclipse and you all know it. Stop having plebshit fanboy taste.

Golden Age was superb because Guts and Griffith were a fantastic characters. When the plot moved away from that, it just, inevitably slipped from that peak.

I don't blame Miura. I can't think of a better way to have done it, save just wrapping everything up in the following arc. All in all he kept things pretty good as he had to think up ways to keep dragging the story onwards. There are innumerable examples of anime and manga that tried to do the same thing, and just turned into complete shit.

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>>140452972
Every time Griffith appears post-Eclipse the "quality" is back on the max, so it seems to me it's more like a plot hook than a dip in quality itself.

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>>140453057
>Every time Griffith appears post-Eclipse the "quality" is back on the max

Ehh... maybe. However, with, what, 4/5ths of the total manga being post-eclipse, how much Griffisu is there? Two chapters? Maybe eight if you include the most recent stuff?

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>>140453125
More or less.

>>140453101
Man, I remember reading Berserk for the first time ~6 months ago, and getting shivers reading this part where you first see the god hand. What an adventure.

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>>140452632
>every other Manga
What does this even mean? "I've read ten manga and they were all action adventure series"?

>>140453330
It's a Berserk thread, you have to put up with those people.

>>140449281

post more picks of the little one please, it's really cute

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>>140439955
Guts
Mozgus and the entire Tower of Conviction arc
Puck and Isibro
Skully being Skully
The Godhand
Schierke being cute
Isma
Bags&Boats

>>140449309
>mfw Miura is not being sued with this

>>140450031
I fucking love this new armour of Griffith. One of the best designs in berserk imo.
I always liked the one Guts wore right after returning to the Hawks when Griffith is in prison as well. Always thought it gave a Kushan feel for some reason.

>>140452972
Pretentious Golden Age retards need to fuck off already. I love that arc but hearing you retards talk like you actually understand the series while sounding like retards who trivialize the rest of the series.

I can't even enjoy GA as much anymore because I'm reminded of you retards.

>>140453125
>Grifisu

Please end your life.

>>140453551
>sued
>for copying a centuries-old painting
No.

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>>140439955
Guts is what makes berserk good. He is one of the most interesting main character that I have ever seen. We follow guts trough his rough and abusive childhood, his somewhat happier and adventurous teenage years with the hawks, his quest to find his true purpose in life, the tragedy and his transformation into an bloodthirsty avenger, leading up to his current repentance and his transformation into a mentor/father figure, who is still hunted by the demons of his past. Even when guts is at his lowest point, he is still sympathetic and relatable. He is a character that suffers but still gets back up. At one point, he is not even human anymore, he only fights for hate and revenge. But then we get to see him regain his humanity, his trust in others, and instead of hate, he now fights for love. That's one hell of a character arc.
Also, the themes and other characters are also really great. And even the edginess doesn't bother me, since the story and the characters are good. The fantasia arc and the hiatuses are somewhat of a disappointment, but I believe that when we reach the final arc, berserk will get great again.

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>>140446689

i want to become the struggler

please wish me good luck

>>140453641
It's too bad she was killed off.

Loli moth had a lot of potential and wasn't irredeemably evil.

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>>140453688
I'm just happy we got a loli moth. Not enough moths elsewhere.

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>>140452761
what u on about they are focusing on her... they are currently going too loli witch island kek

>>140450429
He's been fighting monsters, not humanoids capable of wielding weapons, so obviously the fights are different. What's the latest we've seen Guts cross swords with someone? Duel with Serpico? It was pretty great, but I admit, I'd like to see more. But there clearly aren't many swordsmen on an elf island.

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>>140453765
How many volumes are we going to stay on the island? 2? 5?

>>140453741
Do loli wtiches fuck with shota wizards?

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>>140453930
No. Shota wizards are cucked. Loli witches go for Guts only.

>>140453619
This. I love how all of the events in his life influence and determine his behavior. He is uncomfortable with intimacy save for a few people because of the sexual abuse he suffered as a child. His dysfunctional relationships with the people who raised him make him hard to get close to and while he may be a caring and loyal friend, he is less than perfect as he never realized that griffith cared for him as a friend more than he let on and that he almost left behind the last worthwhile thing he had in his life,casca, for vengeance. Guts also seems to be able to understand others well enough when he really wants to as he was able to understand the relationship between griffith and his hawks so well.

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>>140453651
Holy shit, this panel.

>>140450725
>Guts isn't interesting
>Caring about versus bullshit

Really?

>>140453802
probably more Ike 5 years

>>140453802

One or two, if Miura want to eventually finish the series

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>>140454060
Unfortunately so.

>>140454082
>if Miura want to eventually finish the series
Never ever.

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Dat moth.

>>140453996
How come guts isn't more famous?

I mean he was the raider captain of the hawks and apparently prominent enough to be invited to a royal ball. Even the airheaded noblewomen knew about his 100 man slaying feat if I remember right.

And guts stands out appearance wise. He's way taller and built than most men, even soldiers, has wild, short hair and serious eyes and carries around a huge as fuck sword most people can't wield even during the GA.

You'd think that people would recognize him more as both the raider captain and the black swordsman.

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>>140454148
Because Hawks are a thing of the past and everywhere Guts goes nobody is left alive. There's no internet there m8. All that gets by are strange stories that pass under fiction most of the time.

>>140454148

all the people that knew him from GA are dead, also, he wasn't that famous outside the military and noblemen circles

>>140454200
But midland does remember the hawks and they remember griffith. Not that much time passed between the GA arc and post eclipse anyway.

And guts makes such a mess everywhere he goes that people are bound to remember him one way or another.

Babbys first seinen.

Also, vastly overrated artwork that legitimately looks terrible compared to masters like Inoue and Samura.

>>140454231
Damn I miss that armor. I prefer those shoulder guards and I like the leather on his thighs.

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>>140454274
I got the impression most people never connected Black Swordsman with Guts from the army (that all died)

>>140454274

well everybody knows about the black swordman, it's not like he is rocking the original band of the hawk pin

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>>140451386
The introduced cast will surely add a lot of complications in the third act.

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>>140454290
>Implying most seinen even reaches Berserk's quality
>Implying pic related is overrated art

You're one pretentious fuck if you feel you have to shoot something this great down because there's something better out there. Newsflash, there's always something better and if not now then tommorow.

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>>140454468
>responding to bait

>>140454468
>Implying most seinen even reaches Berserk's quality
I'm pretty sure nothing in his post implies that.

>>140454341
You'd think they would. Guts physique, build, and giant swords are a long standing trait of his.

I know there is no internet but news still got around well enough in medieval periods.

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>>140447184

>>140454493
He calls it babby's first seinen, implying that it's nothing special and that people only ever find it special because it's their first.

>>140454614
Berserk pretty much is babies first seinen tho.

There's a reason it's the most popular manga on /v/.

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>>140454635
>There's a reason it's the most popular manga on /v/.
Jojo #7

>>140454148
Didn't someone recognise him in Virtannis? I always mix the two noblemen up, but I think he was recognised by sir Owen?

Also keep in mind that:
1. While the stories may be famous, even Isidro mentions how great the leader of raiders was, not many know how he looks like, save from some noblemen.
2. The entire band was branded criminals after their relatively short time amongst the nobility. How long was it? Guts was there 3 years, so they served under the king for how long, 2 years? I don't think that's long enough to be so recognisable.


Although I can't wait for his current party to find out about his past.

>>140454670
If you honestly think that, the delusion is strong.

The truth is, Berserk is pretty much the naruto of seinen.

In fact, it was literally sold next to it in the stats.

It's simple fantasy, action and some well worn character archtypes.

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>>140454635
Most seinen aren't this consistently good so it hardly qualifies as such.

You're stupid if you let /v/'s favor towards it ruin it for you or it could be you're just leaving bait and I'm too autistic to stop replying.

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>>140454708
It's popular, but nowhere near that popular. You're forcing comparisons magnitudes apart. Also, well established archetypes are a sign of a great writer.

>>140454635
>Baby's first bait.

>>140454274
Owen still remembered Guts tho
and he knows its him

>>140454766
>brown hair
>lol no its green cause muh idolm@ster

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which image invokes the most feels in you?

>>140454766
>It's popular, but nowhere near that popular
It's literally one of the most popular seinenof all time.
40 million worldwide sales.

> Also, well established archetypes are a sign of a great writer.
Please read more

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>>140454818
>archetypes are bad
lol modernist faggot

>>140454697
>Even Isidro mentions how great the leader of raiders was, not many know how he looks like, save from some noblemen

See thats the thing. The leader of the raiders was a big dude with a huge sword. Guts looks alot like he sounds. You'd think they'd make a connection. Unless people never really described him.

>>140454766
>well established archetypes are a sign of a great writer
What. I mean, I don't have anything against either archetypes or Berserk, but a ton of fucking hacks use well-established archetypes, you can't seriously claim that's some sort of sign of genius. The whole reason they're well-established is that a bunch of people used them.

>>140454614
I'm not him, but I'd agree. Not that it's a bad manga at all, but I certainly don't think it's incredible, and it certainly attracts a bunch of low power-level people who think it's the absolute best thing ever and that barely anything else is worth reading. It's got a level of visibility that basically no other seinen has on the English-language web (maybe Punpun has recently come close), and that doesn't exactly help your fanbase's quality.

>>140454881
Holy shit this.

Have you ever actually noticed how many morons say stuff like "Berserk is the best manga" or "Dude best artwork ever", meanwhile, they haven't even read like 20 series.

>>140454583
>>140454341
Except "the black swordsman" was only recognised by the Vatican, which sent a small representative group of soldiers for him. I don't think many more knew about him, since it was treated like made up stories, mostly. Also, remember how confused the Farnese unit was when they found bodies left by him? Only later did they find out, that the wounds were done by a huge sword. Without that information they had no reason at all to draw a connection between the black swordsman and the hawks raiders capitan

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>>140454845
>a ton of fucking hacks use well-established archetypes
No. They fall into archetypes because authors don't know how to write well. Berserk is crafted according to them. The story of Hawks is the most archetypal tragedy you can write. That's why it's so well regarded.

>>140454930
Okay, great, if you no true scotsman away all the bad writers who use archetypes, then only good writers use them. You win.

>>140454930
>That's why it's so well regarded.
Or it's because people come off of Naruto and Bleach, and immediately think Berserk is the best thing ever because they literally don't know better.

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>>140454809

>>140454881
>>140454912
So it's mediocre because some retards have read it and think they know everything?

Why the fuck would you base something's quality on the fan base? Not like I hear people calling berserk the greatest ever most of the time anyway.

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>>140454967
It takes appreciation of culture and knowledge of great old works to understand why old authors used archetypes deliberately. Those who get it are very rarely hacks.

>>140455021
>So it's mediocre because some retards have read it and think they know everything?
Did you even fucking read my post? I specifically said it's not bad at all. If that wasn't clear enough for you and you think I'm doing some damned-by-faint-praise bullshit, I'll reword it - Berserk is a good manga.

>>140454693
>tfw casca lost her gains

I want my sexy brown warriorfu back.

>>140455021
>Not like I hear people calling berserk the greatest ever most of the time anyway.
New around here, huh?

>>140454881
That's the fate of anything that's getting popular. Stop saying like it affects the quality of the manga in any way.

>>140455116
I'm not. People were talking about whether it's babby's first seinen or not, and I chimed in that I thought that was accurate, and gave an explanation. I'm not implying anything about its quality, calm your paranoia.

>>140455068
but retard casca is a lot cuter

>>140455126
Actually, I guess I did outright say about its quality that it's good but not incredible, but that's just my frank opinion, it has nothing to do with popularity and the fanbase does not change that.

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>>140455128
No.

>>140455258
>tfw she doesn't even remotely look like that anymore.

Miura has ruined his own designs.

>>140439955
Honestly most of the charm comes from the art.
Once I read Berserk side by side with a respectable manga I would not name and the difference was like prime steak and junk food

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Why is Rakshas so best?

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>>140455327

>>140451814
>>140451893
guts is cucked and grifith is into mommy this is some Freudian level shit
>wants to kill his father
>also boned his mother

Post less Guts and more witches.

>>140455488
t. loli ass lover

>>140452972
is the best one it shows how grifith had the sun on his eyes the best
>>140453035 worst
>>140453066 second best

>>140455474
Ah, was looking for this page. It's just so majestic.

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This page is my favorite.

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>>140453651
tfw you will never see a game of thrones budget adaptation to berserk that stays true to the story >no boat ride please

>>140455518
Miura is a fucking genius

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1. Rakshas
2. Zodd
3. Irvine
4. Grunbeld
5. Locus
Prove me wrong.

>>140455319
>Manga I would not name

Because you know its shit and you're looking for (you)s from poor anons who can't recognize bait.

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>>140455518
The triceratops one on the right and the ram one behind Locus look the best.

>>140455488
Why? Guts can turn straight men into faggots with his face alone.

>>140455637
Not even Game of Thrones's budget would be enough to do Berserk's designs justice

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>>140455733
What's Rakshas plan?

>>140454782
I loved that bit
I really want more characters to recognize Gut's, it's really interesting

>>140455353
What kind of dog is the beast of darkness supposed to be?

>>140455320
I want to see how gaiseric became what he is. He seems interesting.

>>140455742
Because loli witches are more powerful than Guts.

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>>140455842
Yeah, but I like the mystery around him as well. I woulnt' want a full exposition.

who else gets inspired by guts as role model?

whenever im in trouble i just girt my teeth and push through it

>>140451814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziBgigws8oQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBva3nnCMvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXImAApFhz4

>>140455933
Guts isn't a good role model.

Kenshiro is who you should aspire to be.

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>>140455301
I know right? I miss the real casca.

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>>140455919
Best arc

>>140455994
>The boat
ahhhhhhh!