Where were you when Pokemon went full idol show?

>When I watched Elle-san's performance earlier, I think I realized what Elle-san has and I don't.
>I'm inexperienced, and I get saved by my friends and Pokémon all the time.
>But Elle-san makes people smile, and gave advice to me, who was a complete stranger to her at the time.
>She's a person who can GIVE.
>Until now, I've done nothing but receive from others, but I want to become Queen and give something BACK to people out there.
>I want to give them strength, make them smile, give them advice and sometimes scold them.
>That's why I need to work much harder still, in order to become a good Queen.

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So Serena in another universe likes Ash too apparently.

Do Ash and the rest ever see the alternate universe again?

>>140382171
No, and we probably won't ever see them again.

>>140382171
They haven't yet, but I really hope they will. Seyana was such a fun character.

>>140380658
Watching better anime.

>>140382555
Pokemon is genuinely one of the best current shows, as weird as it sounds

Serena has a beautiful fluffy bush.

>>140382343
>>140382348
Man that sucks. There's a whole other world with gyms and trainers for Ash to challenge.

I'm pretty sure they're done with the Tripokalon thing after this.

And this episode all but confirmed that Serena's gonna go with that old lady once Satoshi leaves the region

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>>140380658
In my room, masturbating i guess.

>>140382606
Coming from a pokemon fan, that doesn't sound weird at all.

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>>140382841
>And this episode all but confirmed that Serena's gonna go with that old lady once Satoshi leaves the region

I think it left it pretty open. Satoshi told her to "just try making a move if you feel unsure", and Serena's response to this was to go to Yashio and decline her offer.

Yashio gave her her card afterwards, yes, but Serena still took Satoshi's "just do it" advice to mean "DON'T go with Yashio, see this shit to an end instead".

And then there was pic related.

>>140382606
XY&Z has been excellent so far. Something plot important happens almost every episode, they turn up the animation quite often, and occasional Serena/Satoshi fanservice

>>140380658
Will they add mecha too in the next season or generation(whatever)?

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>>140383257
Pokemon has had Time Bokan-inspired mechas since what, mid Kanto?

>>140383328
Yeah, I mean good mecha and not team rocket's gag shit.

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>>140383371
Fuck you, Time Bokan's mechs were GOAT

>>140382606
>Pokemon is genuinely one of the best current shows,
God no, it's always been awful and still is today.

>>140383540
When did you last watch it, anon?

>>140383556
The gym fight with Future Sight.

>>140383618
>Olympia Gym
>awful
Seriously?

>>140383971
The entire season was awful, I simply decided to quit during that episode.

>>140380658
playing pokemon sapphire on my GBA

>>140383257
Perfect Zygarde is pretty /m/.

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I really want the subs to catch up to this episode

It's funny that Pokemon of all series has these great dedicated fansubs

>>140382949
>furry_or_lolicon.webm

>>140384784
It took 12 years for the series to get regular subs, though. AG is nearly 200 episodes long and barely has 20 subbed episodes.

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>>140383144
I've been putting off watching the latest subbed ep because I don't want to say goodbye to Millefeui. I don't see how they can use her again now that they're done with Tripokelons.

>>140382171
C-Cute!

>>140382656
That we will only see once and never see again. Add that to the fact that the entire anime and all the movies take place in what is about a little over a year now.

>>140380658
Watching Macross Delta

>>140384874
Yeah but fansubs have really declined lately but of all shows this one still has them.

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>>140384901
There's still a small chance of seeing her again, since she wasn't originally introduced as a performer.

She should've been in the semifinals instead of Musavie, though

>>140384919
That Serena speaks with a Kansai-ben accent also, the subtitles make her speak with a country accent.

>>140385089
And hence her fan nickname Seyana.

>>140385089
Kansai-ben = Country Bumpkin

>>140385078
>She should've been in the semifinals instead of Musavie, though

Then she would've had to beat Serena

>>140385191
No, I mean she shoudl've faced Nene or some other shitter in the fist round and won her way to the semifinals instead of Musavie.

She was always Serena's best rival.

>>140384990
It's not that odd. Unlike most other fansub groups, they've never had to deal with officialsubs and have always had a fanbase waiting for them Other groups largely turned into officialsubs rewriters for an audience who mostly just downloaded their releases for archival purposes.

>>140382606
> Seriously saying Pokemon Anime is best show
Look, despite me baiting a bit and this being /vp/, KEK, no, Pokemon Anime will NEVER be "best current shows", it's better than previous Gens of it currently but it's nothing special to better animes in general, please.

>>140385804
>this being /vp/
>KEK
>animes
I think you need to leave.

>>140385459
Dragon Ball Super is the only other show I know that doesn't have official subs. It has less active sub groups than Pokemon, though.

>>140385835
You need to not be butthurt.
I just said the anime was "good", but it's not "the best" as that other anon was boasting about.

I miss Misty.

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>>140382949

>>140385897
And you need to lurk before posting on /a/.

>>140385944
I miss Charizard.

>>140385897
Nobody cares about your opinion. We just want you to fuck off back to your own board.

>>140385078
>She should've been in the semifinals instead of Musavie, though

Musashi/Jessie is the only reason I bother to watch Tripokalon episodes.
Serena's determination makes me so sick that I've started cheering for "evil" character.

>>140386034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbySeEFODRM

Remember that time he came back and slapped Iris' Dragonite's shit. Good times.

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>>140380658
Hoping for tripokalons to end soon.

Glad we're back to business.

>>140386034
I wish charizard never existed.

>>140383556
I stopped watching it after best girl Dawn left. I didn't see the point after that.

>>140384874
The bulk of AG was still dubbed by 4kids so people didn't care much for subs back then. Its only when the voices changed that subs became a big deal in the Pokeani fandom.

Most people who watched Hoenn when it originally aired were still watching the dub.

>>140385851
Aikatsu.

>>140386410
Are you legitimately retarded or just shitposting?

>>140382949

Whelp, guess I'm watching X&Y this webM just tickled my pickle.

>>140386681
AG aired back in 2002-2006. That was over a decade ago. Most of us were still older kids or teenagers when it was originally airing. The Japanese episodes were far harder to come by in the early 2000's than they are now. Most people who were watching Hoenn watched the dub.

>>140386806
Are you that one retard on /vp/ that keeps spouting the same bullshit claims over and over no matter how many times people tell you you're wrong? You sound like him.

Lurk more, faggot

>>140380658

Anybody know a good place to find a batch for Pokemon XY ? Wanted to start watching this series.

>>140386939
I think Animebytes has one.

>>140386955

I'll try that, thanks anon!

>>140386995
Or alternatively you could just set up a RSS feed and download them all with 2 clicks.

>>140387074


Yeah, doing that instead since Animebytes registration is closed.

>>140387578
>he doesn't have an AB account
>wanted to register one for Pokemon
Somehow I doubt you'd have gotten in anyway.

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Look how Serana dominate the handshake.

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>>140386237
Hoping to see some devistated Serena when Ash is kill next ep

>>140388406
You can get into AB by saying Boku no Pico gave you epic feels. It's not really hard.

>>140386921
ignored

>>140388602
Yeah, but that guy sounded like he'd put Pokemon on his favorite anime list.

>>140388536
Is that the same Haunter from season 1?

>>140388776
No.

>>140388776
No but the episode was kinda like a homage to that original ghost episode. Haunted Mansion with a Gastly, Haunter and Gengar playing pranks.

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>>140385078
We need her to help push Serena into confessing to Ash. And to just generally be hilariously smug.

>>140388897
And then Ash dies and later possesses his corpse to remain unaging for all eternity?

>Ash still only has five Pokemon

What the fuck are these people doing? Normally, he catches AT LEAST six Pokemon per region (except in the Orange Islands, but that was pretty much just an extension of Kanto). In Kalos, he caught five, including the one he let go. Is he even gonna get a sixth party member?

>>140388776
he (I guess) is with sabrina

>>140389006
Naw there's an old dead guy Bonnie becomes friends with instead.

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>>140386806
>he didn't download raw rmvbs of the Johto league and Hoenn from Pokemon Palace back in the day

>>140389025
He's still got time before the Pokemon League, and he can always call Goodra back.

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>>140389025
I'm sure he'll catch another poke before the league.

One thing that's great is that they've really put in the time to give all his Pokemon personality in XY. Growing his team more slowly helps with that I think. I especially like the whole student-teacher relationship Hawlucha and Noibat had going on.

How did Ash make Latios and Latias Mega Evolve despite not owning any Mega Stones? Rayquaza knew Dragon Ascent so that was fine. Come to think of it, he makes his Greninja do something like Mega Evolve without any stones. Is that his special ability or something? The power to make things Mega Evolve without a stone?

>>140382949
I never watched pokemon, but thanks to this im gonna watch it.

>>140389230
I like the Greninja focus, waiting for it do beat that Charizard.

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>>140385953
small-time

>>140389247
Mega-evolve is stone + strong bond. Maybe Satoshi is just that friendly. They do love the theme of him loving his Pokemon.(Even if he never talks to any of them after each region)

>>140389344
Looks like it'll be a while before that happens from the current look of things

>>140389365
Why did they stop having him call professor Oak at Pokemon Centers? It was neat to see his boxed Pokemon make cameos in those.

>>140389487
Maybe it confused the new kids.

>>140389487
They did that at the very beginning of XY with some electric Pokemon if I remember correctly. But nothing since.

Well here are the remaining Kalos-specific Pokemon that aren't already owned by Serena, Clemont, Jessie or James:

>Scatterbug > Spewpa > Vivillon
>Flabebe > Floette > Florges
>Skiddo > Gogoat
>Furfrou
>Espurr > Meowstic
>Honedge > Doublade > Aegislash
>Spritzee > Aromatisse
>Swirlix > Slurpuff
>Binacle > Barbaracle
>Skrelp > Dragalge
>Clauncher > Clawitzer
>Tyrunt > Tyrantrum
>Amaura > Aurorus
>Klefki
>Phantump > Trevenant
>Bergmite > Avalugg

I dunno, does any of this seem likely to take up Ash's sixth slot?

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>>140389582
Yeah, episode 3, to show him Froakie.

Reminder that he has a whole horde of Tauros back at Oak's lab.

>>140389624
We can probably assume that he won't get any more flying things after this. He has three, that's really enough. He doesn't need anymore. So lets scratch off Vivillon. Forgot the lion too, but I don't think he needs one seing as how he has the bird.

>>140389624
Gogoat, Aurorus, or Avalugg seem "Ash" enough. I would say Vivillon too but that's an early season type of deal and that ship has sailed.

I hate how they keep pushing Serena and Ash together.

>>140389624
Goodra's return is all but confirmed from merchandise at this point.

>>140384784
I want to fuck Ash.

>>140389926
Faggot.

>>140389939
It'll probably return for the tournament, but I doubt it'll come back in the middle of his journey.

Who knows, he might even get a bunch of Mega Stones for his past Pokemon for the tournament as well.

>>140389677
It's funny how they never explained to English viewers why he literally has a whole herd of Tauros.

There's a picture from the end of BW with Ash and all his Pokemon at Oak's lab and there's just a shit-ton of Tauros behind them trying to get in the shot.

>>140390103
They didn't?

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>>140389082
Eureka a cute

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>>140390103
By this point, who cares? None of intended viewers even know where his other Pokemon came from either. You think the average eight-year-old knows why Ash has a Bulbasaur? Or a Snorlax?

>>140390041
>Who knows, he might even get a bunch of Mega Stones for his past Pokemon for the tournament as well.
Nah those things are movie bait

>>140390103
I always wondered how he got a Tauros when he used it in the pokemon league, or maybe it was the orange islands.

>>140390195
I thought Primeape was at Oaks lab why isn't he in the picture?

>>140390195
What would be the best team with all the Pokemon there? Pikachu must be included.

>>140390195
Where's butterfree?

>>140390195
Man, imagine if Charizard got a Mega Evolution. That thing nearly beat up an imaginary Entei. An imaginary Entei that a little girl wished for that was able to control the environment to its advantage. Which only won because that little girl gave it a power boost in the middle of the fight.

>>140390320
Primeape was given away ages ago.

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>>140390140
Nope. It's from the safari zone episode that was banned in the west. For some reason everyone just started using real guns. The old guy, team rocket, officer jenny, everyone.

>>140390195
I'm not mad about it. I just think it's hilarious. Also I think even an eight year old would pause for a second and wonder why Ash has literally 20 of one species of Pokemon. The faces of the Tauros in your pic get me chuckling every time.

>>140390320
Primeape was given to some schmuck who wanted to train it to become the most Electrifying Mon in Sports Entertainment. It was never seen again.

>>140390337
Butterfree's taking care of its babies with its wife.

>>140390393
Butterfree is fucking dead.

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>>140390385

>>140390416
Where the hell did you get THAT idea? Are you talking about that stupid made up myth that says that Butterfree die after they mate?

>>140390416
It's probably dead, being an insect and all.

>>140389985
Serena pls.

Is pokemon finally going to end? Is Ash going to fight Elite Four?

>>140390385
>Also I think even an eight year old would pause for a second and wonder why Ash has literally 20 of one species of Pokemon.
And what does that have to do with the west? No matter where that 8-year-old lives, he'd just assume there's a reason for it given in whatever old episode they were caught in.

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>>140390430

>>140390473
But Ash is still ten. And his Heracross is still alive.

>>140390547
He's fighting Diantha in a couple weeks.

>>140390547
Gen VII was confirmed so this shit's gonna go on for another series.

>>140390547
It's the first time they're letting him fight the champion and apparently next time he does that (two weeks from now) he'll "drive her into a corner".

>>140390559
Man you must have been an incredibly stupid and unimaginative 8 year-old.

>>140390611
*by "first time" I mean in an individual series/region. It's actually the second time he fights Diantha.

>>140390374
>>140390393
Now I remember why I thought he as at Oak's lab.
It was from the Unova opening that I saw him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf1BIWoriIU

>>140390590
And? He's gonna lose with 100% certainty anyway.

>>140390596
We don't know anything about the Gen VII anime though. All we have right now are logos and that troll CoroCoro article which basically just gave us two white squares.

>>140390628
The point is that it doesn't matter what country that 8 year old lives in, if he's just 8 he probably didn't see that episode even if he lived in a country where it aired.

>>140382949
wow this is beast animation compared to the old show...

is this the animation level for everything or just like the intro or something?

>>140390596
Couldn't Satoshi win and still go to the next region?

>>140390715
As long as the games continue on, so will the show. I thought that was obvious.

>>140390715
The butthurt over that was glorious, especially since the original leaker didn't include the page that gave it context.

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>>140390744
That's from a real scene in an episode. Don't expect that level of quality constantly though. But the budget is now good enough that they really go all out in important scenes and battles.

>>140380658
>idolshit
i am glad i dropped this
idolshit is pure cancer

>>140390818
Good, go back to your fantasy battle harems.

>>140390810
ah, gotcha.

>>140390727
I was talking about back in the day when I was watching the original series as a kid when his Tauros came out of nowhere.

Guys

What if, in the next game, there's no unique regional bird and they just end up reusing past birds instead

>>140390859
i will
they gave me a reason not to watch pokemon
one anime less to give a shit about

>>140390748
Anything can happen.

>>140390926
Keep telling yourself that.

Meanwhile, I'll be over here, living in the merciless world we call "reality".

>>140390952
Hey I think they're just gonna continue the status quo too. But I won't rule out other possibilities until we have confirmation. That's just close-minded behavior.

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>>140390882
no prob bob

>>140390916
We've already seen concept art of the next region's bird though.

So did the pokemon devs just quietly retcon the whole "we only know of 150/250/350/etc pokemon" thing they used to say? Now that Ash has seen like 10 different regions or some shit and each one has their own regional pokemon they can't really pretend like these pokemon were just discovered right before Ash arrived, especially not when the whole span of Ash's journey was less than a year.

Seems like they just want everyone to just forget about that and now the official story is that all these pokemon have always been around but they weren't native to other regions.

>>140391116
Yes. Try playing FireRed/LeafeGreen sometime. They completely remove all references to the "150" think. The entire concept of there only being 150 Pokemon died since Gen II.

Wait she is loyalty?

>>140391116
I don't think the anime ever claimed that.

>>140391221
Kalos Queen is just the title for the winner of the performer championship.

Like Starlight Queen

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I want to see Serena in a tight bikini like May had. The writers whored May out a ton back in the day.

>>140391333
Do you never get tired of posting the same posts with the same pictures in every Pokemon thread? Is this a bot?

>>140391262
No, the anime did the whole "150" thing during the Bill episode. The one with the stupidly huge Dragonite that no one could apparently recognize was a Dragonite.

Also, Ash gets an upgrade to his Pokedex because some "new Pokemon were recently discovered" even though shit like Marill and Snubble are common as fuck. Togepi is pretty rare, but given what we know now, it's pretty impossible for no one to have never seen one before then.

>>140391418
It said "more than 150".

Also that episode was parodying The Fog Horn

>>140391485
Thing is that "more than 150" number is still pretty stupid as of now because there are over seven hundred.

I mean, let's say that you have nearly a thousand apples and someone asked you how many apples you have. If you answer "over 150", you'd be technically right, but still sound like a douchebag.

For someone starting at the beginning of XY, are there only specific episodes that should be watched for plot importance or overall quality, or is the filler good enough to go ahead and watch all of it?

>>140391849
There's only about 4-5 episodes people generally agree were kinda lame. Just watch everything.

There's a watch order pasta I'm sure someone will post for you.

>>140391849
The filler is generally pretty good, don't skip anything. You get the occasional stinker but nothing really bad.

>>140391849
>>140391900
Airing/viewing order:
Best Wishes Decolora Adventure 20 (not XY, but it's recommended you watch this first, since XY1 has a lot of callbacks to dialogue from it)
XY0
XY1-11
Complete Overview! Pocket Monsters XY Special!!
XY12-21
Best Wishes Season 2 Decolora Adventure Special - Iris VS Ibuki! The Road to Dragon Master!!
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act I
XY22-35
Movie 17 Guide
Movie 17 Premiere Special with TV Special
XY Movie 1 Short
XY Movie 1
XY36-49
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act II
XY50-54
New Year's Eve 2014 Super Mega Special
XY55-64
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act III
XY65-78
Movie 18 OVA
XY79-81
Movie 18 Appear! Special
XY Movie 2 Short
XY Movie 2
XY82-93
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act IV
XY&Z1-9
XY&Z Complete Overview Special
XY&Z10-22

The six Hoopa's Appear! Operations specials aired alongside XY69-74

>>140391776
>>140391485
The number isn't really the part I was talking about it's the claim that researchers hadn't yet discovered more pokemon. Considering how common many of these new pokemon are in other regions it's kinda hard to believe researchers wouldn't already know about them.

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>>140391849
I recommend watching it all if you have the time. Here's a good guide though.

>>140391981
Well they didn't know they'd make a sequel after the original Red and Green (or Red and Blue as we know them as).

>>140392011
They did. "Pocket Monsters 2" was announced in mid 1996.

>>140392039
I doubt they knew they were gonna make a sequel while writing the script for Red and Green.

>>140391849
Some fillers are good, but there's still formulaic mon of the week+TR shit. Use this as a guide:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Timeline_of_events_in_the_anime#Kalos

>>140392143
>Bulbapedo
>dub titles make it impossible to find shit
>misnumbers episodes anyway
>literally short summaries that spoil the episode ahead of time
Are you trolling?

>>140391849
A lot of this show is filler but it's fun filler not just boring stuff.

Aside from the original Kanto, there's probably less filler in XY than any previous series. DP had a lot of plot episodes but still got some filler towards the end of it.

Serena's arc is over and done with and she'll never be relevant again.

How does this make you feel?

Masturbating to Serena-chan, the 2nd best Pokegirl of the season.

>>140382171
The fuck is this?

>>140388536
>you'll never
>ever
>EVER
>lick Serena

Why even live? Just to suffer?

>>140392869
One of the best and wackiest anime fillers, where Ash ends up in a parallel universe and meets the counterparts of himself and the rest of the group, who all act entirely differently from the regular universe ones. Team Rocket are heroic vigilantes who fight criminals.

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>>140392869
Alternate universe.

>>140392992
Neat.
>filler
Is it filler when the anime is the original?

>>140392869
Alternate dimension where Ash is a shy little bitch and Serena bullies him constantly. Telling the main Serena to look after her Ash as the dimensions drift apart.

>>140390172
Who took the photo?

>>140393058
I want Seyana to bully me.

>>140393058
>Serena bullying Ash
WHY
AM
I
SO
HARD?

>>140393016
It's a broad definition, but it's filler in that it doesn't advance the plot (gym/rival/evil team battle, Pokémon capture/evolution/learning a new move, reaching a new place that's in the games) or give character development.

Although this particular episode doesn't count as filler under the definition I gave since the place it's set in is from the games, it's just that there are no mirror universe shenanigans there.

>>140393058
>>140393012
>>140392992
Even in an alternate universe she loves him?
She truly is the OTP of all OTPs

>>140393107
Someone made porn of Mirror Serena getting dick from Mirror Ash and insulting his technique while thinking to herself it feels so good she can just barely keep up the facade of being unimpressed

>>140393086
>>140393107
The best part was when she tried to abuse the main Ash when he went over there and got flustered when he wouldn't take that shit from her.

>>140390745
Yes. Winning a regional league doesn't make you a Pokémon Master. Neither does beating the Elite Four.

They won't do it, though.

>>140393058
She did seem to regret teasing him when he ran into the cave crying like a bitch though.

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>>140393193
So you're just going to tell us about it, but not post anything?

>>140393256
What makes someone a Pokemon master? You'd think that after all he's done in the movies that he'd already be quite an exceptional trainer.

>>140393397
>>>/h/4247144
Next two posts after this

>>140393256
If you beat the Elite Four and become Champion, then that's it. You are one of the best trainers in the world. There's no way you'd ever lose to anyone that's not a fellow Champion. If you actually lost to some no-name trainer or Gym Leader, you'd basically be shitting on your title. Can you see Cynthia or Diantha losing to a Gym Leader? No. Not in a billion years.

>tfw all the fans tears after X/Y & Z ends and Selena becomes another past season girl

lel

>>140390334
Including his current pokemon, I'd say the best team would be

>Pikachu
>Charizard/Infernape for sub
>Sceptile
>Greninja
>Heracross
>Snorlax

>>140393496

Would they really go to all this effort to have that as the end result?

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>>140393394
What an abuser

>>140393553
Because that's what they do. They make people think this time everything will be different but in the end, it's same old. Ash will lose on the [insert region] League and say goodbye to his [region of old game] and go to a new adventure on [region of new game] as the 10 year old we all know.

>>140393671
Ok. And that's going to make you happy because...?

>>140392764
I will not miss Tripokalons, that's for sure.

>>140393496
I'm honestly neutral in all of this and personally can't wait for all the salt from fans who are btfo by whatever decision the Pokemon company makes. But I can see them carrying Serena over with him to the next region. One thing they've done that might hint at this outcome an anon pointed out and I agree with is giving her an anime exclusive redesign.

>>140393696

Because the tears would be glorious!

>>140393603
>mirror Pikachu is literally Ash's Pikachu from the original series

>>140393786
That's gonna get old. Remember what happened to Misty? She heavily overstayed her welcome.

>>140393786
They wont bring her back.

If there was a betting pool for that I would bet all my life savings. That's how sure I am that Selena will not be back for S/M.

>>140393803
>mirror Clemont is a super /fit/ wizard

>>140393798
You sound like a fun guy.

>>140393841
>tfw my sister still doesnt watch any Pokemon Anime cause she was a huge Mist shipper

>>140393841
Just because they failed once doesn't mean it can't be done right.

>>140393798
>character has ongoing romance subplot
>people like both the character and the subplot
>lel I hope they write her out because that would make people mad lol XD

Are you sure you're old enough to post here, anon?

>>140393863

I'm all about fun. As in what can make my life more fun. And watching kids getting mad when Selena becomes just another used whore like the others will bring a lot of fun for myself.

>>140393883
Tell her she has shit taste in heroines.

>>140393899
It's an issue with character dynamics and personal goals. There's no guarantee that they'll keep Pokemon Showcases in the next region. And seriously, what are they gonna do, keep that one-sided crush of hers going through another region?

>>140392992
Didn't the mirror Team Rocket get trapped in the normal universe tho?

>>140394025
>Pokemon Showcases
Literally what

>>140393970
That's not actually what'll happen though. She won't come back and people will be mildly disappointed but then you'll start frantically baiting like a retard and when people tell you to fuck off you'll say "oh these delicious Selenafag tears".

>>140394073
What the dub apparently calls the TryPokaron. I dunno, I figured since we use localized terms almost exclusively in these threads, I figured I should look up the dub term and use that too.

>>140393960
They will write her out because that's what the writers do. They have a mandate from above to always return things to Status-Quo. Every season of Pokemon Amime plays the same. They always try to do something different to add interest in the losers who keep watching but it's always the same. Ash goes to a new region and meets the locals, he goes on an adventure with them, bonds with them, goes to the league only to lose, then he says goodbye to his current region friends. Rinse and repeat.

S/M will have the new girl of the games as the new Pokegirl. She will be as uninterested in Ash as May was on Advance so Selena fans don't get mad.

The one who seems like an underage kid is you my friend. If you can't see this happening it means you never were alive or at least don't have memory of the first series. I remember how everyone was saying Misty will win Ash.

>>140393970
>kids getting mad
If anything people will get disappointed the show didn't actually deliver when it actually seemed like it might. Where are you even getting this stuff from? Are you in grade school?

>>140394030
I thought normal team rocket was supposed to get trapped in the mirror world. They were there after sunset I thought.

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>>140394025
Sure. I'll never get tired of Serena Spaghetti

Honestly though the female companion usually does fuck all anyways. I don't see how a new one would be more interesting than Serena.

>>140394150
The implication is that the superhero Mirror Rockets helped them back.

>>140394172
I liked May and Dawn.

>>140394087
There's tons of newkids that never watched the Pokemon Anime who are getting invested with Selena. They will be heartbroken when X/Y ends.

>>140394149
You are the one who is in school kiddo. It shows you have not watched Pokemon before if you think Selena might stay for long. She is already old and busted and Nintendo needs to push their new game. The Anime at the end of the day is a 30 minute commercial for the games.

>tfw mirror TR will never team up with TR to fight Flare

>>140394213
You are trying way too hard.

While I can see Serena leaving I can also see her coming back or something like that(maybe not next region). She's unique in the sense that they made her and Satoshi childhood friends.

>>140394247
I'm so gonna enjoy the end of this show. Good thing it's ending this fall!

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How come Ash didn't crossdress this time?

>>140394124
If you needed to look up a dub term, chances are people won't know what you're talking about if you use it. Nobody watches the dub.

>pokemon
>ending

>>140394293
Just like how May and Dawn come back from time to time.

>>140394322
They do?

>>140394312
WE USED TO.

REMEMBER VERONICA TAYLOR?! REMEMBER HOW SHE VOICED ASH AND MAY AND ASH'S MOM SO WHENEVER ANY OF THEM WERE IN THE SAME SCENE SHE WAS BASICALLY TALKING TO HERSELF?

My dislike for anime Serena is probably as intense as my love for her game counterpart.

>10 episodes behind in XY&Z

Time to get off /a/ and catch up.

I need motivation to get through these tripokalon episodes, though.

>>140394372
They are filled with a lot of character development for a lot of the characters anon.

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>>140394372
>I need motivation to watch cute girls do cute things

>>140394359
>tfw Anime Selena is a thirsty 10 year old who wants brown Jap dick
>tfw Game Selena is a depressive 16 year old who wants to kill herself

Is Game Selena the future Anime Selena?

>>140394355
Nope. I'm not murrican and never watched the English dub.

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>tfw Bonnie chooses to go with Ash to another region instead

>>140394372
>tripokalons
Skip them unless you're a Serenafag. They're shit. The episodes too

>>140394496
>Bonnie
>>>/vp/

>>140394525
>not being a Serenafag
>not liking cute girls doing cute things
>skipping episodes crucial to a character's development
Yeah no

>>140394322
>>140394343
They each came back once in the generation following their own.

>>140394496
I'm beginning to think it might not be that farfetched. Bear with me on this:
>Perfect Zygarde is in the next movie meaning the blue core must have been freed from Team Flare by then and the red core is still with Bonnie afterwards unless the trailer lied/it's a flashback
>Perfect Zygarde contains the colors of the Sun and Moon logos on its chest alongside X and Y's
>it hasn't been featured in any game yet
Perfect Zygarde might have a role in Sun and Moon and thus Puni-chan might need to stick around, and Bonnie with it.

>>140393082
A spoopy ghost

>>140393462
Nobody knows. We do know from the last episode of DP that becoming a Champion Master by beating a league champion is a step in the process.

>>140394669
>New group is Satoshi, Eureka, Serena and gen 7 male MC

>>140394429
>>tfw Game Selena is a depressive 16 year old who wants to kill herself

Wait what? where did that come from? I didn't get that vibe from playing the games at all.

>>140394496
>>140394669
Bonnie is the best companion this season, I'd be okay with her staying.

>>140394769
>Selena
It's that underage shitposter from earlier

>>140394429
It's Serena not Selena

>>140394747
I want this so much.

>>140393496
i can't handle another series starting if it contains ash
they better settle this lil nigga down with her

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>>140394784
>>140394496

>>140384784
this part will be censored

>>140394496
I really hope there's at least one carry-over to the next region. Misty got to go to Johto, Brock got to go to Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh, but everyone else was immediately benched.

>>140384953
What about part in the original series where they all sat around and talked about how they've been on the road for a year or two?

>>140393256
With all the shit has seen in his 1-2 years of being a Pokemon trainer, I think he deserves enough recognition as something entirely different.

>>140393462
Join the Smogon cult.

>>140393603
Literally as hard as I could be.
Anyway, how did reverse-Ash get into that new area if he's a little bitch?

>>140395952
Well the danger of bringing a carry-over is that the new character ends up being the odd one out (or in most cases, the old character).

So when you brought Brock to Hoenn and Sinnoh, you found that he had absolutely no chemistry with May or Dawn whatsoever. And since Ash is the protagonist, of course he has the interact a lot with the heroine, but this ended up resulting in him losing the bit of chemistry he had with Brock. So Brock was always this third wheel while Ash and the heroine said and did everything.

If you brought a carry-over from Kalos, you run the risk of the same thing happening again. Because balancing an ensemble cast is not easy and you very often end up favoring one over the others. Even in XY, Serena's chemistry with Clemont is really quite minimal, and Ash doesn't speak to Bonnie as much either all things considered. If Clemont's not around, then it's usually Serena who ends up babysitting Bonnie. The balance is somewhat awkward.

Basically, if both of Ash's companions are new from the start, then things start out a little more balanced and that makes things easier for everyone.

>>140396004
A clip show filler that amounts to nothing since those 1-2 years were retconned out since Ash is still motherfucking 10.

>>140396090
Ash went to opposite-land to get his buddy pikachu back. The crybaby Ash stole his pikachu because he thought it was his.

Isn't the elite four different than the regional league in the anime

>>140392000
Is there a similar chart like this for the DPP anime? I want to see what all the fuss is about.

>>140396228
In the anime, you take on the regional league. The champion then earns the right to challenge the Elite Four. Once defeating the Elite Four, you earn the right the challenge the Champion. Once you beat the Champion, you become the Champion.

I think the biggest challenge here is that even if Ash manages to win a tournament, it'd be a very anticlimactic end to a series if he goes to the big Elite Four battlefield or whatever with all the fancy bells and whistles that might come with and he ends up getting completely demolished in the first fight, never even getting a chance to battle the other three. Losing in a tournament has little more flare than losing against the Elite Four. In a tournament, it's a string of battles so there's some momentum. As long as the battle Ash loses in is big and packed with action, it can still end on a fairly decent note. But if you lose against the first member of the Elite Four, you can't build any momentum so it all just kind of dies from the moment it begins. And it's not like you can have Ash BEAT the Elite Four, because that opens up a whole new can of worms.

>>140396350
Well, the status quo of the Elite Four being undefeatable has at least ended, and Ash will have to eventually defeat the guy who broke that status quo, not to mention the whole "pushing the Champion into a corner" thing happening soon. That can of worms is already opening.

>>140396445

Who beat the elite four?

>>140396546
Alan, who defeated Malva.

>>140396445
It's not an issue of the Elite Four being undefeatable. It's an issue of Ash being someone who is capable of beating the Elite Four.

If Ash beats the Elite Four, that means that he's, at the very least, an Elite Four equivalent. He's at least as strong as, if not stronger than, a region's Elite Four. So what would that mean for him? He couldn't lose to anyone of lesser skill ever again.

He can't ever lose to a Gym Leader, barring the likes of Volkner or Clair who are explicitly stated to be as powerful as Gym Leader. If his Pokemon are underleveled for a Gym challenge, then that would mean that the Elite Four actually lost to a challenger that's incompetent enough to bring underleveled Pokemon to battle a Gym Leader. If he got outskilled, then that would mean that the Elite Four are somehow less skilled than a Gym Leader. And the argument that the Gym Leaders are just hiding their powerlevels most of the time doesn't work here, because if you have Gym Leaders who can beat someone who can win against the Elite four, then why the fuck are they Gym Leaders? Why aren't THEY the Elite Four?

Alan beating a member of the Elite Four is fine. He doesn't ever have to appear after XY ever again, so who cares how strong he is? But if Ash beats the Elite Four, then he can't lose to anyone without shitting on the Elite Fours' name.

>>140396569

Isn't that in a separate special

>>140396621
Ash and Alan met each other since, they're rivals.

>>140396618
>Alan beating a member of the Elite Four is fine. He doesn't ever have to appear after XY ever again, so who cares how strong he is? But if Ash beats the Elite Four, then he can't lose to anyone without shitting on the Elite Fours' name.
What I meant is that if Ash defeats Alan (which plot will almost certainly dictate), then Ash IS Elite Four level.

>>140396638

I guess I should get up to speed with the show then

>>140396700
Actually they're fighting again next episode.

>>140396004
Never happened.

>>140396569
Wasn't that a specific 1v1 scenario and not with their full teams?

>>140396683
It's indirect and Alan's a dumbass anyway. They can just make an excuse saying that Ash's Greninja's super saiyan form is better than Mega Charizard X for whatever reason, or say that Alan's heart wasn't fully in it or whatever other bullshit shonen reasoning. He's part of the villain team, losing for a dumb reason is second nature.

But if Ash actually won in a six-on-six battle again against a member of the Elite Four, it creates a very difficult situation for the writers. Either they keep up that level of competence for the next series, or he receives a downgrade. And we all know what happened in Best Wishes, where Ash fucking lost against trainers that he really should have beaten with ease.

>>140396816
Well, those were the specifics of the challenge and they were both using their mega-evolved aces. Why shouldn't it count?

>>140396878
With full battles, you can really open up your strategy. I mean, Ash's Torterra lost in one shot against Paul's Gastrodon, I believe. Was it his Gastrodon or Drapion? I forget. Point is Torterra lost in one shot.

Now, if this was a 1vs1 battle between Ash's Torterra and Paul's whatever, then it would have been Paul's decisive victory. But that's not what happened, and Ash was the one who ended up winning that battle.

>>140396287
The DP anime is mostly good, it just has a long gap between Gyms since the entire arc is spread out across 4 years. Every other saga is 3 years at most...DP went 4 years with one Gym quest.

>>140396878
Because her title wasn't on the line and she was asked to test him to see if he's worthy or not. Not to mention, using her one specific pokemon for mega-evolution purposes instead of her full team kinda handicaps her.

>>140397057
Well there was kind of a long gap between the fourth and fifth generations. It's not the show's fault. Blame Game Freak.

>>140397082
The same was true for AG and they did the gym quest in three years and the Battle Frontier in the last. Could've done the same with DP instead of putting 20/30 episodes between every gym, which got tiring.

>>140397165
I don't think the stuff with the Battle Frontier and Decolora were really intended to happen. I think Game Freak just went "Uh, hey guys? So yeah, just FYI, the next games are gonna come out a little later than when we first said so you're gonna have to come up with a way to extend the current run of the show a bit." And that's why the production quality of Battle Frontier was actually shittier than the Hoenn part.

So if you're interested in the upcoming movie, the first chapter of the manga adaptation just got dumped and translated on /vp/:

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>>140397165
My guess is they didn't want to bother covering the Sinnoh/Johto Battle Frontier, since Ash already declined the offer to be a Brain so it would make no sense to do another one.

>>140396618
That all makes sense in-universe but it doesn't excuse Ash's sudden tactical incompetency every time he arrives at a new region.

Also, does beating the Battle Frontier mean anything? In game. they're fuckloads harder than the Elite Four, even without using items.

What was the reason they stuck with ash instead of having a new person per nation?

>>140397284
Other than Battle Frontier being very rushed and some bad filler at the start, most of what happened in that arc was quite good. Grovyle evolved, Phanpy evolved, Ash brought back older pokemon. May's Contests and rivalry with Harley especially was very well done, and the May/Drew dynamic had a good resolution. The only thing they should have done was have May lose a bit more but I guess they had no time.

>>140397284
The fact that reaching the last gym took 52 whole episodes despite the towns being really close by in the games already means they had to prolong things considerably in DP too. They just did it towards the end of the gym quest instead of afterwards.

>>140396228
It appears to be. >>140396350 is full of shit.

>>140397335
Continuity.

>>140397304
Well, no, in-story the Elite Four are stronger. The only reason the Battle Frontier is harder is because they enforce level caps.

And Ash actually retained his tactical competency going into Sinnoh and Kalos. He just lost it in Unova.

>>140397335
Several reasons.
1) moving audience. See, they don't expect anyone to continue watching this show well into their teens and adulthoods. We're the outliers here. They don't care about us. They expect kids to watch the show and move on when they get bored with it. There's no real reason to change the protagonist. New viewers don't care if the protagonist's been the same for the past decade and a half, while the few stragglers don't have to get used to a new protagonist and continue enjoying the show as they did until they get tired of it and move on to harem shows and draw boys kissing boys in Pixiv.

B) It's easier to really showcase Pokemon from multiple generations if it's just one trainer. Ash has multiple Pokemon from each generation of the games. It's just more convenient overall.

Γ) Ash and Pikachu are iconic. Pikachu's the mascot of the series.

>>140397368
Yeah but the animation was worse than the first 2/3 of the series.

>>140397463
Nope, it was explained in Sinnoh that that's how it works.

You earn all eight Badges and enter the tournament. If you win, you earn the right to challenge the Elite Four. If you beat the Elite Four, you earn the right to challenge the Champion. I mean, you CAN battle any of them if you happen to meat them outside of an officially sanctioned match, but that battle won't count, just like with Gym Leaders.

>>140397540
>See, they don't expect anyone to continue watching this show well into their teens and adulthoods. We're the outliers here. They don't care about us. They expect kids to watch the show and move on when they get bored with it.
Which begs the question, why are they putting more effort into this show recently? Producers and executives with this mindset usually halfass everything just so they can get a profit quicker.

>>140397540
>We're the outliers here. They don't care about us. They expect kids to watch the show and move on when they get bored with it.
Probably correct. I completely stopped watching the series after the orange islands or whatever. Only reason I initially picked up XY was Serena but the show is actually kinda interesting anyway.

>>140397651
OLM is genuinely a good studio that has a lot of pride in their shows. And BW was VERY badly received.

>>140397651
My guess is they really wanna please the kids. And they have a lot more competition now, what with Precure and Aikasu and Yo-kai Watch and all those other things. Gotta keep up with the competition.

>>140397732
Meanwhile, you got this board shitting on KyoAni, Shaft, and sometimes Madhouse. There's no pleasing everybody.

>>140397651
They're OLM, they're talented people and they're getting a good budget? I know that should not be enough, but maybe they just like putting in work.

Thing is Pokemon has always had good animation. And they keep upping their game as time goes on. You know the original show with Ash and Misty and shit? That had legitimately good animation for a Sunday morning children's show from Japan. We don't notice it now because technology and techniques have advanced since then but Pokemon has always looked good for the time it's running it. It's one of the greatest boons of the series.

OLM's great. It's a shame they only do children's shows, though.

>>140397755
It's really not though. Kids have no loyalty, they watch everything and enjoy it. Only outliners like us have shit like comparing how one anime studio/anime is better than another &/or refuse to watch something for whatever trivial reason.

>>140397867
Yeah, it did look good for a children's show back then. GT in comparison at the time looked like absolute shit.

>>140397755
There's also the fact that, while it might be a bit hard to understand for foreigner primarily familiar with its poor dub, the Pokemon anime is very highly respected as a kids' show in Japan, and is consider a major part of the franchise. There's not really any of that elitist hate for it that you see on /vp/ etc over there.

It has good animation, tons of huge VAs, gets major celebrities cast in the movies, and tons and tons of tie-in promotions by all kinds of companies and people.

>>140397969
They're on different channels, though. I think Pokemon's on at the same time as the Super Hero Time block on TV Asahi. There's real competition there and they need to keep up. I'm not entirely sure if that's true but I'm KINDA sure? I mean, it's Sunday morning and TV Tokyo isn't the only channel that has children's programming at that time slot.

>>140398064
Ah, yeah, right. That too. Pokemon's practically the Japanese Sunday morning cartoon equivalent of Sesame Street.

Also, their movies are fucking gorgeous, has to be said. They've ALWAYS been gorgeous. Maybe not necessarily Ghibli tier but it's certainly better than the trash that stuff like Dragonball or Conan get.

>>140398116
You make it sound like they won't download/record/whatever all the anime and watch it. Come on, anon, you were a kid once, don't tell me you actually pick and choose what to watch on a weekend morning?

>>140398116
Pokenchi is the show that's on during the Kamen Rider part of SHT. The regular Pokemon anime airs Thursday evenings between Aikatsu and Naruto.

>>140398273
Imagine watching a good animated episode Pokemon than you get to shitty animated Naruto filler.

>>140398273
They're still airing Naruto? I thought that shit was over.

>>140398331
Itachi filler's still going.

>>140398331
They got to like 30 chapters before the end of the manga, then switched to doing filler for over a year now,I think.

>>140398272
When I was a kid we had a VHS player and my parents were too cheap to buy empty VHSs.

>>140398331
It's the U.S. DBZ of the nips. Instead of Namek, they're stuck in reruns.

>>140380658
Pokémon is boring

>>140398418
Mine too, but I had a single blank tape I just recorded over every time

>>140398418
Nigga, I went out and did odd jobs as kid to buy a damn empty VHS so I can ask my parents to record pokemon for me on it.

>>140398522
I think there were labor laws against that.

>>140398273
>Watch Aikatsu
>then Pokemon with Serena

I wonder how these japanese kids aren't fapping to death.

>>140398627
>fapping to Aikatsu

Anyone else kind of disappointed by the animation in Serena's performance against Elle? It wasn't anywhere as good as the one from when she got her third princess key.

Also they basically showed none of Elle's performance. What the hell?

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>>140398706
>NOT fapping to Aikatsu
What's wrong with you?

>>140398584
I doubt police is going to go after the neighbors for paying a kid loose change for helping them do very minor chores.

>>140398839
If they keep it offscreen, it's easier to sell people on how superior it is without having to deliberately make the other performances look unimpressive.

>>140398930
I don't know, I never could. They're just cute to me.

>>140398941
So tell, not show?

>>140398938
We weren't on good terms with any of our neighbors. I lived in Koreatown, you see, so neighbors tended not to really talk to each other.

>>140398839
Because it's the inevitable 'X did a better performance than Y' complaint since unlike battles, this is all subjective to opinions and taste. So, best to only show her reaction instead of the actual performance to mitigate the shitposting like what happened during the other performances where they said Serena's performance wasn't that good compared to others.

>>140398930
>fapping to Ichigo
At the very least post Ran, Sora or Mikuru instead.

>>140399043
Unless you're one hell of an ugly kid, go to some financial distinct of your city/town/whatever and resell chocolate bars.

>>140382949

Got a link with sound?

>>140398990
Yes. When it comes to things that are supposed to give such an incredible reaction, it's usually better to keep it offsceen and imply that it's impressive rather than show it and having it BE more impressive than everything else.

>>140399085
Well my mom wouldn't give me my own house key so I couldn't really go out without locking myself out. Why the fuck am I talking about this, this isn't my blog.

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>>140399073
>Mikuru

>>140398930
>fapping to Ichigo

>>140399757
Yes?

>>140399757
>>140399073
The gays

So is Goodra confirmed for returning yet?

How jelly would Serena be if she found out that she wasn't the first girl Ash journeyed with?

How would she react if she learned that
A) Ash owns a lure made in the image of Misty
B) Ash owns half a ribbon, with the other half belonging to May
C) Ash owns a Pokemon that used to belong to Dawn, and also they have their own cute little high five thing going on
D) Ash actually went on a date with Iris once

>>140401625
Since this is a children's show, she'll be happy and that's it.

>>140401616
Depends on how strictly you want to defines "confirmed".

>>140401625
>she wasn't the first girl Ash journeyed with?
Well technically Bonnie joine Ash before she did. So I guess she wouldn't really feel anything wrong.

>>140401625
I can't imagine she'd care. Satoshi asked if they could travel with Corni and the two of them developed a pretty good friendship, and Serena never gave that any second thoughts.

>>140401625
Now imagine Millefeui also being there to hear about this.

>>140399049
>Because it's the inevitable 'X did a better performance than Y' complaint since unlike battles, this is all subjective to opinions and taste.
I still think Jessie should have won that first theme performance with the scarecrow pumpkin. Much more creative and interesting than the stuff the other girls came up with.

>>140401815
Eureka is even less of a competitor for Satoshi's affections than any of his previous traveling partners, and that's a low bar.

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>>140402131
I know, right? They barely even interact.

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>>140402672
Do they even directly address each other? When he said her name in pic related it made me wonder if they've ever even had a real conversation.

>>140401625
Oddly enough XY is the first saga where no older companion has shown up. Serena probably doesn't know about any of Ash's older friends since he never mentions any of them.

They did something similar in early DP, where despite Dawn being a coordinator neither Ash nor Brock mentioned May at all. She didn't get any references either up until her cameo eps started.

>>140401625
If they wanted to go the ultimate fanservice route, they should find a way to incorporate all the previous pokegirls into XY&Z, at least for a cameo appearance.

>>140402987
They do, but not often. Which is odd considering Ash saves Serena's ass often enough.

>>140403039
Misty hasn't appeared in the anime in 11 years since 2005. May's Japanese VA is also sick and can't do voice acting anymore. I doubt we'll see any past characters.

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>>140402987

>>140403107
Replacement VA's exist.

>>140403150
You can't do a real cameo with a replacement VA. The voice is part of the character.

>>140403186
Reminds of the few months when they replaced Eureka's VA because the original was on maternity leave. Every time she spoke I was just outraged for some reason.

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>people unironically saying Satoshi instead of Ash

>>140403186
I knew someone would say that. I guess there's no pleasing anybody, especially with people like >>140403248