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Even in rage, Beato is cute!
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>>140365526
You call that rage? Put some spirit into it.
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After showering off, you stuff yourself into a pair of nice khakis and a collared shirt. You want to try and salvage as much of a good first impression with Lise's parents as possible, and also you don't have much in the way of clean clothes, since it is laundry day after all. You lock yourself in the Bathroom with a similarly well dressed Lise, and try to figure out how to brief them about the transition to the new world. It seems as though they had been summarily executed soon after they had been captured, and in fact they had the same suitcases and clothing they were carrying when they got caught. Obviously, you would prefer to leave the part about their daughter having been defiled and forced to work as Stasi Swallow for another day. You would also to gloss over most of the parts about Theo going loco, but it's going to be impossible to hide the fact that between the two of them, Theo and Lise are basically responsible for the violent deaths of roughly half the folks the Hohensteins are going to be meeting over the course of the next few days.

You decide not to lie about anything. There are, however, certain subjects that you'll only talk about if asked directly. They certainly will not be offered the opportunity to watch the series. Eventually, you emerge from the bathroom, and begin your talk, bringing up wikipedia pages and whatnot. You focus on what has happened in the real world since the late seventies, bringing them through the end of the last century and the first decade and a half of this one. Luckily, they seem to be interested enough in the world that they now live in, that they haven't brought up the last one since you began the lecture You breathe a sigh of relief, then take them to the grocery store for phase two of their introduction to the free world. As you're wandering the aisles with Lise and her gobsmacked parents, you shoot a series of text messages to the other members of your group.
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>>140365703
Ah, capitalist grocery stories. What would we do without your ability to shock former East bloc citizens?

It's still gonna suck when they found out about the ~things~ that actually happened though.
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>>140365460
>>140365538
Ah ah ah, I said she wasn't dead.

Inghild wasn't dead either you know :^)

Oh, and vat imouto was named you know...
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>>140365806
Banana's
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>>140365703
What would we do without grocery stores? Speaking seriously for a second, this kind of marvel was a thing in real life too, after the Wall fell.

Maybe you can even sneak in some despair by showing Mr Hohenstein the depths of which modern "art" has descended...the 'Vagina Monologues' and 'Bullshit!' would be enough to entice him into absolute despair though. It's a fine line to tread, and he's going to figure it out sooner or later.
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>>140365806

The bare minimum is that they're going to be really sad for a while, and probably have to greive for Theo.
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>>140365806
Theres no real way around it. But from the position of being in an entirely different world from the causes of all their pain, hard news like "your son went from moderate rebel to full terrorist and your daughter became a dog of the very people you were trying and failed to escape from" will be much easier to swallow.

>>140365844
Stupid sexy Annette.
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>>140365943

>theater has been replaced by Spiderman: Turn Off The Dark
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I see dead people.
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>>140365980
If there is one thing that the commies were right about half the time, it was that the West was degenerate.

>>140365703
I kinda want to see Beatrix's reaction to that text.
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>>140366101
You should stop fapping to them
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Strike Frontier when?
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>>140365703
>>140365806
>>140365943
>>140365955
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>>140366269
What
>>140365703
>their daughter having been defiled and forced to work as Stasi Swallow
I wonder how much cum she swallowed, like, volume wise.
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>>140366261
NEVER

until gets dry off that beatrixbux
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>>140366269
Explaining the reasoning behind this is gonna be complicated.
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>>140366269
>implying Lise wasn't the one holding the gun to her own head and telling Theo to shoot before the rebels executed him
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We're being too hard on Theo, we only know the anime one and not how the LN one and future VN one feel.
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>>140366628
>We're being too hard on Theo
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>>140366628
Future Theo literally goes full Racetraitor terrorist mode and LN Theo has Lise executed because she pretended to be insane so he could kill her and not be attacked by the Moderate Rebels.
Theo is a shit in all versions.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpp208_pink-floyd-the-final-cut-film-complete-1983_music

Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is THE soundtrack, comrades.
He`s now working on his next album about interdimensional matress travel.

Also, commissar Gretel and Martin were lucky to attend to the last concert of the Puhdys https://youtu.be/7FCWNS02jP4

But you can't forget the classics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6ZtGpSH4g
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>there are people that think this isn't a good muv luv anime
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>>140367016
>There are people who unironically enjoys schwarzesmarken
The threads was the good stuff. Like american chocolate.
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MEANWHILE

"Ow, fuck!"

The finely dressed man had last remebered being beaten and eventually choked to death by Beatrix. He hadn't even then known where he was, or how he had gotten in that last place he was. All he remembered was sleeping in some bed, and the next thing he knew, he was about dead. Axmann figured he more or less deserved that, but he had to have his wits about him this time.

And now he was outside, in a chilly...what month was it? Hell, what year was it? Either way, he was lying in a pile of garbage in an alleyway to the side of a massive building. Was this Berlin in the future?

Ax dusted himself off, making sure he was prim and proper as can be. Have to make the right impressions, no? Still wearing his pristine Stasi formal uniform, he attracted some looks from passerby. Hesitantly, he called out to a couple walking down the street in German. The confused looks they shot him was his first mistake. Stupid. No way East Berlin looked this...tall, anyways. He switched to English.

"Ah, can you tell me where am I? I think I got lost."

"Oh, a tourist! Sorry, sorry!" flustered the woman. "Yeah, you're in Nu Yawrk City. Manhattan." So it was America, of course. It would be too risky to ask what year it was directly, or other details. Suddenly, he was aware of his dangerous uniform. There had to be a place he could dip in without being too conspicuous.

"You with the military?" asked the man.

"Yes, the W...German H...Army." Axmann haltingly said. Keep it simple, stupid.

"Aw yeah, I knew I recognized that uniform from somewhere, just can't remember where."

"Would you fine people know a good place to get a drink around here?" inquired Axmann. Pubs, the perfect gossip lounge.

"Yeah, that place right there" he said, pointing to the tall skyscraper he fell next to. "You look like you could use a drink, buddy"

Thanking them, and going his way, Axmann couldn't help himself being amazed as he walked through the golden doors to the booking booth.
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>>140365703
So how will the Hohensteins cope. They're pretty old as it is.
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>>140367454
Wait so is he back
Is the glorious faggot back
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>>140367464
Same question is asked of any refugee.
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>Muv Luv will never have another based MC like Takeru
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>>140367454
I like where this is going.
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>>140367454
Theo keeps suffering.
Meanwhile this guy waltzes around without a fuck given after dying twice.
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>>140367628
That's Axmann for you.
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>>140367454
You know, I have this feeling that he's going to end up on Wall Street or such just doing murky shit.

And he's going to like it.
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>>140367655
>wall street
figures a pleb like you thinks small
He's going to turn America into a Divine Right Monarchy and make it great again.
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>>140367454

"Yes sir" said the doorman. "May I help you, perhaps direct where you wish to go?"

Trying to contain his long suppressed curiosity, Axmann's inner child could only yet marvel at the gilded scenery around him. Took him all the effort in the world Pink white marble everywhere, and mirrors all abounded. Quite gaudy if you were some dumb Frog, but ornate even to the elite of the GDR. Heh, so this was what wonders of the outside that bastard Schmidt were hiding from even high up Stasi like himself. It was times like this that even Ax could regret some of his past actions. What other wonders could the Berlin faction have done if they won out? Or even..."Ha! Hahahahaheheheh" Axmann could only chuckle to himself as he realized Beatrix's game plan all along. She never was with Moscow faction at all! Oh holy hell, she was with the rumored Langley people!

"Sir...?"

"Oh! Oh oh...ahem, I'z ehm sorry sir, I was joost marvelling at zis vonderfool place!" Axmann said, in his most crude accented German he could muster. Somehow, the first thing he thought of was what those inbreds in Bavaria must have sounded like.

"Ah, very natural, sir."

"Eef you could pleeze, could you deerect me to ze seemplest, activ b-bar you hav? Eet vuz reccomeended to me."

"Ah good sir, perhaps you would be interested in The Terrace? It is perhaps a bit chilly, but plenty of people disagree otherwise."

"Da...zat vud be gud, ja!" Axmann continued in his mangled German. The doorman pointed him the directions to the outside lounge. It was a charming place, nice tables spread around. All these people, just sitting around, chatting amiably - as if they had not a care in the world. Oh sure, some were tired, some were arguing about things, but overall, it was a functioning society. You know what? Ax, he felt pretty good for once. He hadn't even thought of corrupting or hurting these people like he did all the time back home.

It certainly didn't seem like the America even he knew as an agent.
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>>140367696
Not charismatic enough.

It's the very reason why he couldn't keep on rising through the Stasi hierarchy as fast and didn't inspire as much loyalty as Beatrix.
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>>140367828
>Not charismatic enough.
>Axmann
>not charismatic
What am I reading
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Two best luvs
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>>140367973
Luv is by definition equal.
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>>140367847
LN Axmann was not charismatic
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>>140368009
LN Axmann also wasn't a red-haired prettyboy, your point?
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>>140367973
Only Yui
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>>140367973
But thats not Beato and Yuuko.
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>>140368082
No, it is not
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>>140367776
Axmann navigated to an empty table near several full ones. It was evening, and a warm glow from the setting Sun cast a brilliant purple and blue hue on the clouds in the sky. Axmann went to his bug out bag to his side for some cash...

FUCK!

Frantically, Axmann looked around for it. Hadn't he had it on him when he...died, or whatever when he last confronted Irisdina? And what about his Makarov? At the very least, in America they wouldn't mind him packing some heat? Good, he still had his hidden holdout pistol. Beatrix must have taken his stuff off of him in that brief moment in that place after he...died?... again.

But he wasn't Stasi for nothing! He made a mental note to later goto the bathroom and get the emergency cash in his screwoff boot heel. "I fucking knew that'd come in handy one day!" In the meantime, a rather young waitress had come up to him.

"Hello sir, welcome to The Terrace, may I get you something? Got a cocktail on mind?". He noticed she seemed a little flustered. Oh ho, you like uniforms huh?

"Why yes madam...perhaps you could recommend me a cocktail?"

"Ah, you're German huh? You'd like our bartender. He's from Wisconsin, he can hook you up with a mean brandy old fashioned, how about it?"

"That'd be fine, yes" Axmann replied, as she walked off. Goddamn her ass was divine.

In the meantime, he listened in on the fellow customers, and saw a TV (flat, how odd) with a news channel. April 8th. Nothing about the BETA. Apparently, they didn't exist in this world. Well, not everything was different. Refugees were streaming into Germany. But from what? Suddenly, he became aware of a group of people trying to console a man in their group.

"I know they're gonna nail me. I didn't do anything to that bitch! But what can I do? I know the state attorney's office is in the tank for that asshole."

Ax's ears perked up. If this was a new world, this was a chance to begin again. Maybe even, he could redo everything?

"Corey, we're here for you."
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>>140368429
>Refugees were streaming into Germany.
Oh dear.
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>>140368429
>Axmann the Assman
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>>140368507
>Magnus Lux
>>>>>
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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI
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Currently reading Alterative. Sadogashima and the Base defense were kind of not successful.
But the original hive operation will succeed, right? T-this game has a good ending, right?
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>>140368595
>good ending
Define 'good', because for a certain definition of 'good' and certain priorities yes.
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>>140368595
>T-this game has a good ending, right?

Why yes
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>>140368595
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>>140368429
>>140367776
>>140367454
Goddamn it, I`m hard now. Ax to the Trump tower!

MORE MORE MORE
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>mfw I see Lise happy and alive
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>>140368767
Theo it's alright to be angry
That's how it feels to be cucked
But there are healthier ways of dealing with your anger.
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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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>>140368595
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>>140368595
lmao
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>>140368595
Thanks for the laugh anon.
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>>140368811
>mfw people actually say that Theo got cucked.
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>>140367571
Well you could still look forward on what's gonna happen on TDA to bring it on full circle at least
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>>140368595
>good ending
kek
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>>140368429
Oh God, am I having a conscience attack, at this time? Unwilling to face down that troublesome figment of his past for the moment, Axmann listened intensely to the man, Corey.

"I know you guys got me, but it's not enough! Fields is gonna try to hang me for this. They're gonna taint the campaign with my charges, trial, everything. It doesn't matter if they clear me."

Axmann turned to notice the waitress with the divine ass had brought his drink. "E-enjoy sir!"

"Excuse me madam..."

"Y-yes?!" she nearly squeaked. God this is easy.

"Tell me, what do you think about the world right now?"

"Oh! Well...I mean I hear foreigners don't like what our bossman is about." "Please. I insist. I just like listening to people" Axmann said, in his most pleasant voice.

"Well...it's just our bossman's running for the top job in the country, and he's trying to make it a better place...and all they wanna do is hurt him!" she was nearly crying now. Quite the person, in the old life he'd want to break this kind of girl slowly. But now, Ax could only urge her to continue. Her innocent righteousness was infectious. He could glean some details of the world he was in.

"I know Rato has money in on this, him and the robot! If only there was some way we could dig it up, expose it!"

Ax saw his chance. A chance to start over! But moreover...a chance to do some good? And get to use his skills? That sounded nice.

"Excuse me, I think I can help, Mr Corey?..."

He looked up, surprised. "Corey Lewandowski. You can?"

"Perhaps. You said you need to find some dirt you know exists?"

"We're up against a massive, corrupt machine. They fear us." "I can tell. Your boss is..." "Why, Donald Trump! This is his tower!"

"You can trust me. I'm Heinz Axmann, a former Stasi who died and came here. There is my secret." Ax said smiling, holding out his hand.

Regarding him quizzically for a minute, Corey eventually held out his to shake. "Very well then Axmann. Let's make America great again."
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>>140368595
We'll be here waiting with open arms ready to comfort you when you're done, onii-chan.
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>>140366651
But you are. Especially if Punishmentanon has his way.

>>140367628
It was a direct response to people just in for healing. The balance was probably getting too out of whack. Too much healing.

You all caused this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNTx6ZogBbY
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>>140369215
>Axmann is recruited by fucking Corey Lewandowski

Welp. GG America.
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>mfw people actually come back from the dead and Anett might come to.
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>>140369340
Axmann recrutied on April 8th

Lewandowski cleared of charges April 13th
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>>140369215
Hold me, senpai.
Just hold me.
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>>140369446
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>healing motherfucking Axmann

>>140368595
Well, GOOD...perhaps. But without sacrifice? Don't kid yourself.

>>140368767
W-why are you so upset anon?
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>>140369614
There are no happy endings in muv luv
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>>140369614
I think it`s Axmann who`s doing the healing this time around.
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>>140368660
>you and you're waifu
>you're
Thats not how you are supposed to spell it.

Unless I have missed something.
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>>140368595
heh
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>>140369772
>mfw gretel fags
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>mfw people actually enjoys heal anons work
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>>140369855
>>140370060
>>140369712
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>>140369772
Sidestories anon here, I think I finally came up with something for Gretel

It don't think it will be punishment, even though I badly want it to be because Gretel a shit!
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>>140370843
You fucking asshole.
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>>140371054
Anon, I just said it'd probably be suffering free.

Well not Gretel suffering at least.

Probably.
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;_;
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>>140371477
Do you feel it anon?
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>>140371477
You're almost there onii-chan. Just ride it out.
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>>140371477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRV_083QrCU
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>>140371477
There we go anon, good. Just let the despair soak into your veins.
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W-what the fuck ;_;
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>>140372670
Soon...
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>>140369614
>>healing motherfucking Axmann
Oh you won't be laughing when he finds all the dead SMs at anon's house.
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>>140368595
>T-this game has a good ending, right?
yes
Saddam comes with his Ba'ath TSFs and saves the day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4GvlU3xQKM
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>>140366261
You know the answer to that, anon.
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>>140368595
Doesn't humanity finally win in alternative?
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>>140373316
They win the round but match isn't over.
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>>140373316
they only have 30 years to strike back anon. With based yuuko in prison and the bratty savior vanished from existence and no 00 unit, the future is grim
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>>140373543
They got slightly better in the years after Ouka, though.
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>>140373676
Thanks to Valkryie Data, but they are still fuck though
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Victory ;_;
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>>140373762
Congratulations!

your gonna love that ending nigga
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>yfw your MuvLuv otaku goods were packed by cute japanese girls
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It has come to this.

Best TSF?
Best girl?
Best boy?
Best MC?

Bonus Round:
Best father-in-law?
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>>140374717
>Best TSF?
pic related
Best girl?
Meiya
Best man?
Walken
Best MC?
Takeru


Bonus Round:
Tama papa?
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>>140369215
Axmann working a job and living a sitcom when?
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>>140374717
>F22
>Meiya
>Takahashi
>Takeru

I dunno
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why do you keep making this general?

the show is over
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>>140376525
Because people like it
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Would Lise make a good adoptive daughter?
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>>140369855
Come at me bro
>>140370843
>>140371462
Don't you dare you turbonigger
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>>140374717
>Best TSF
MiG-27
>Best girl
Gretel
>Best man
Walken
>Best MC
Wilbert
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>>140369782
You missed the joke
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>>140376525
Like you said, show is over, so all the shitposters and waifufaggots left us. the ones left are civilized enough NOT to turn this into a circlejerk. and that leaves us time to discuss theories, characters, story details and for writefags to bless us with their creativeness.

We would like to apologize sincerely not just for keeping one of the cleanest generals around, but also for not shitting up the board anymore than it already is, as soon as this one is done we'll head over to the nearest New Anime Threads and start shitposting like the shit-flinging monkeys you probably assume we are.
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>>140375567

You have excellent taste, good sir.
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>>140377756
>waifufaggots left us
whatever you say buddy
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>>140377756
you're delusional

this thread is 100% a general
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>>140377756
>waifufaggots left us
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>>140377756
>no waifufaggots

nigga you blind
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>>140374717
>Best TSF
A-6 Intruder
>Best girl
Meiya
>Best boy?
Ichimonji Takahashi
>Best man
Walken
>Best MC
Takeru

No idea
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>>140378104
>Intruder and Meiya

My nubian
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>>140377777

Pentasevens confirm it
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>>140377106
I don't know have you tried adopting garbage in the street.
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>>140376525
hey at least it isn't as worst as the fucker who keeps starting muv luv threads back then with sumika's fucking ahoge every single fucking thread which results in waifu wars and frodo's asking stupid questions has been banned or have lost interest.
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>>140378469
What is wrong with Sumika threads?
She is best girl, so there is no problem, right?
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>>140378469
Why don't we stop this chain of discussion and carry on with the thread?
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>>140378469
>>140378538
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>>140378570
Yeah. Lets continue with our Sumika thread.
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>>140378469
Look the shit you have unleashed
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>>140378469
I hope you realize you just ruined the thread. .
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>>140378679
>>140378683
Is there a problem?
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>>140377837
>>140377982
>>140378047
Since you couldn't read past that bit, allow me to spoonfeed you the rest:

>waifufaggots left us. the ones left are civilized enough NOT to turn this into a circlejerk.

>>140377954
I never said it wasn't? as a mater of fact, I called it a general too.
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>>140378752
I guess not.
Let us continue then.
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>>140378538

Significant Improvement.
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>>140378538
>>140378641
>>140378752
>>140378969

>Liking a BETA spy
You disgust me anons.
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Remove cockroach
post Roki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kohsgr4kLdM
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>>140379014
It wasn't her fault.
They didn't know connecting her to reactor will connect her to the network.
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>>140378923
Looks like you can't understand what that sentence implies

>Like you said, show is over, so all the shitposters and waifufaggots left us.
You said they ALL left

>the ones left are civilized enough NOT to turn this into a circlejerk.
Since you said ALL the waifufaggots and shitposters left, then the ones left that the sentence refers to naturally excludes shitposters and waifufaggots
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>>140379086
>she didn't do nuffin
>she was a good girl
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>>140378570
>why don't we ignore the fact that we are breaking the rules and continue to break them

fuck off
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>>140379168
Exactly!
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>>140378538
>Liking a BETA sextoy that has no other use than being an annoying love interest
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>>140379364
But without Sumika, Takeru wouldn't be able to destroy Superior.
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>>140379163
Excuse my lack of a grammar nazi background and the fact english is my second language.

Satisfied?
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>sumikafags shit up the thread

where are you Beatofag?
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>>140379429
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Slowfag here. Just finished the final episode.

Is there a "good end" in the VN where she isn't kill?
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>>140379429

False. With a Liberty Prime AI operating a fully armed and operational XG-70 Valkyrie, there would be no need for either of them.
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>>140379459
>grammar nazi
It's not even that. You just didn't think it through.
Next time say that MOST of them left, not all.

But yes, I'm satisfied. I get what you're trying to say

>>140379555
The first VN ends after Axemann's surprise boat visit
The 2nd VN isn't out yet so no one knows
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>>140378469
You really had to unleash him, didn't you?
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>>140379641
But they tried that and it didn't work.
Also, 00-Unit is much better than Liberty Prime AI.
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>>140379472
You don't fight waifuposting with more waifuposting Anon.
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>>140379813
Yeah. There is no way other girls have even a chance against Sumika.
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>>140379555
She will survive on her route in the second VN
>>140379813
Fighting fire with fire
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>>140378469
Way to fuck up anon
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>>140379555
There are gonna be three routes to lead to three different endings, most likely an Iris, Katia, and Lise route. But If you expect any one of them to be a "good end" you're expecting too much. Abandon all hope ye who enter here.
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>>140379756
>autismal computer better than BETTER DEAD THAN RED

yeah no
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>>140379922
Why not? I mean if is their route they probably achived their plans and not die in the process, maybe
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>>140379429
>implying
Just give takeru a susanoo TSF then he can probably god mode his way to the superior
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>>140378469
you just had to you fuck
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>>140379756

Nope; they tried it with a regular human pilot and flight computer; he could get it off the ground and flying around, but was subsequently killed when a gravity fluctuation caused him to lose control.

>>140379951

Only one of these control systems has a 50% rate of failing catastrophically mid-battle and vaporizing everything.
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>>140380145
So there is a 50% rate of not failing catastrophically mid-battle and vaporizing everything
;^)
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>>140379644
>>140379876
>>140379922
Right, guess I'll keep lurking until it comes out then.
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>>140380145
>Only one of these control systems has a 50% rate of failing catastrophically mid-battle and vaporizing everything.
Yeah. Nothing like that would happen to Sumika.
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>>140365703

It's been a few days since the Hohensteins first arrived. They met the others, and despite being much older than the rest, are able to get along relatively well with them. However, they've begun to ask about what happened to Lise after they died, not to mention where Theo is. You realize that you can't avoid the topic any longer, but you have to think of a way to break the news to them that will give them what closure you can provide, and also not alienate them from their daughter. You decided that Lise might not be the best person for them to hear everything from. Right now, you're standing in front of the television with a heavily pregnant Beatrix, and Lise is sitting between her two parents on the couch. As they became more and more persistent, you agreed to answer all of their questions, but only if you could do it in a special briefing session.

"I guess, to start out with, try to imagine the worst possible case scenario. It might not be that far off, and if it turns out we're wrong about how bad things were, it's better if things seemed better by comparison. Also, I'd like to remind you that this is all in the past. Now isn't a time to worry about what could have been, or what ought to have been done, it's simply a time to grieve. Lastly, before we get started, I just have one question. Do you love your daughter?"

The Hohensteins, looking increasingly worried, nod.

"You'll love her no matter what?"

They nod again.

"You'll accept her whole person, regardless of what was done to her, and what she may have done?"

The shock is finally beginning to hit them, but they nod a third time.

"Good. We can get started."
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>>140380014
>Why not?
C'mon why would anything nice ever happen? Besides the way these characters are one's good end is another's bad. Its called Martyrs for gods sake. One girl's happiness will result in another girl's suffering.
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>>140380246
ACTIVATE THE STASI FILES
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>>140380246
Oh boy,it's suffering time
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>>140380246
At least its only LN Lise were talking about. Just don't show them the anime.
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>>140380251
Do you have what it takes to ensure your waifu's ideals?
I already accepted that my waifu won't have a route and it will die in the others
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>>140380325
I don't know if I want to wreck that smug or frame it
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>>140380251
Can those suspenders handle those tits?
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>>140380396
Superior East German materials comrade
>>
It's pretty interesting how people in these threads have managed to shill two highly controversial and disliked characters like Beatrix and Lise into prime waifu material, the same characters that had hundreds upon hundreds of posts on how you'd torture and kill them in the most brutal ways possible.


If this wasn't /a/ I'd be saying you're all insane.
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>>140380067

That would be the XF-108 Rapier; the dedicated escort TSF for the XG-70 Valkyrie.

Given that the IRL Rapier supersonic interceptor would have used the same General Electric YJ93 engine as the Valkyrie bomber, it may have also had some of the same capabilities.

That said, the IRL Rapier was 80 feet long to the F-22's 60 feet, so it would probably be 30-50% taller than most normal TSFs. It's advantages would likely trend more toward heavy low-absorbance refractory armor and/or a Lazaford Field with the energy supply for energy weapons on a TSF-mobility platform rather than a super-high maneuverability TSF.

This would mean you'd probably be better off training a TSA pilot to operate it, or at least a MAN OF DESTINY like Walken.
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>>140380490
>managed to shill two highly controversial and disliked characters like Beatrix and Lise into prime waifu material
I thought Beato was one of the popular ones, at least in Japan
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>>140380221
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>>140380584
So was Lise, but we're not talking about Japan, since they actually have the ability to read the LN and generally don't have a kneejerk reaction to moral themes like the West.
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>>140380611
It destroyed the enemy, so mission accomplished..
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>>140365526
Not
>Beato is neato

onejob.jpg
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>>140380641
t.General Ripper
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>>140380636
Well I usually don't participate in these ML threads but Beatrix is my favorite character and Muv-Luvfu AND I fap while picturing her death in my mind

It's a strange thing
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>>140380636

This is 4chan, moralfags are pretty much universally reviled here because they're just inverse edgelords with nothing constructive to add to the discussion.

Also the only way you can demonize Lise is if you deliberately ignore the system that degraded her, and even the worst moralfag doesn't have his head so far up his ass that he starts defending the MfS.
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>>140380636
Anyone else here love Beatrix and Lise but dislike Esdeath?
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>>140380965

Esdeath is the best character from a shit series but she's still a shit character.

Also AkG really is a war story and not a character driven tragedy.
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>>140380965
AkG is the kind of story you can giggle your way through.
I like all 3, but I don't dislike any AkG characters since I know Takahiro was dead drunk while writing it.
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>>140380490

“The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.”

― Winston S. Churchill
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>>140380246

"As you can clearly tell, trying to escape the Terrorist state known as the DDR was obviously the right thing to do. It's just unfortunate that things didn't work out."

The Hohensteins have wrapped themselves around their daughter, and all three of them are bawling their eyes out. Nobody would enjoy hearing what they heard, and you included everything, acknowledging in front of Lise for the first time that you knew about the rock baby, among other things. You did do your part to let them know about how instrumental Beatrix had been in healing Lise, and how it had been she who had successfully reunited Lise with her brother, even if it hadn't worked out. You decide that it's a good idea to sell the Hohensteins on Beatrix in particular, because among other things you suspect that Lise's mom is going to go baby-crazy as soon as Beatrix gives birth, and as a first-time mother, the twenty three year-old is probably going to need a pair of experienced hands helping her.

Eventually, you manage to get everyone collected and focused again. You knew this was going to be hard, but it seems like the Hohensteins are going to live up to the promise you made them give, and stick by their daughter. For the sake of a change in scenery, you take them to the duplex for a cook-out. It's easy to be sad when you're allowed to wallow in it, but being sad isn't going to change anything. You want to get them into the sunlight, surrounded by other people who have learned to embrace their second chance at life. You drive over to the duplex, with Lise sitting in the middle of the back seat, wedged between her parents, and nobody in the front passenger seat. You feel almost like a chauffeur. Her father leans forward.

"You knew all of this, and yet it didn't bother you?"

"I never said it didn't bother me. But, some cosmic force decided to move all of these people across time and space, and bring them back from the dead. Why? I don't know."
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Is Lise's route confirmed or is it just speculation?
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>>140381617
How could we not have an incest route?
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>>140380641

I think you missed a spot.
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>>140378446
Rude.
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>>140381756
>MUV-LUV Alternative Total Eclipse.
> No Yuimoto route...
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>>140381854
yeah but Yui a shit
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>>140380848
I bet she weighs very little. I want to princess-carry her.
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>>140381854

Well, it's a tragedy, but what are you going to do?
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>>140381941
I'd dispose my semen on those slavs
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>>140378469
>>140378538
>>140378570
>>140378624
>>140378641
>>140378752
>>140378969
>>140379328
>>140379429
>>140379547
>>140379756
>>140379854
>>140380641
Sumika was a mistake it's nothing but trash

the game would be better if they just let Meiya win

what a shit game
this game has the potential like a gundam or macross but the creator fucked up desu
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>>140380494
Whoa that's over kill.

But honestly though that Walken's skill was subsided in MLA because of sabotage

In TDA he and his squad can hold off an entire hordes of BETA, not to mention that he was a bit depressed in TDA that even with his missions he is still survives

Fucking sagiri had to ruin everything.
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>>140381608
>terrorist state

Stop parroting dumbfuck jap scriptwriters, please.
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>>140382062
Meiya will win
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>>140381174

Churchill was right.

>Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
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>>140381908
Say what?
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>>140382062
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>>140382069

>Communists
>not being filthy terrorists

pick one.
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Kiss Lise and treat her with respect.
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>>140382114
You hear me
>>140382161
Regan go home
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>>140380494
>That would be the XF-108 Rapier; the dedicated escort TSF for the XG-70 Valkyrie.
So what the fuck happen to that?

Shouldn't they tried restarting that project now that after Ouka they have captured Hives and can extract G elements
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>>140382161
Terrorism is the weapon of the weak.
For state, the tool is terror.

It`s an incredibly important distinction.
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>>140382062
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>>140382266
fuck you

I'm still mad
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>>140382062
>gundumb
>muhcross
>potential

Nice joke here, faggot.
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>>140382067
>Whoa that's over kill

Yeah, possibly, though working out the control for the Moorcock-Lechte Drive would be pain, considering what happened with the original HI-MAERF prototype.

There are a few ways they could have worked around that, though, but all them would require actually applying the Scientific Method or Engineering.
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>>140382357
Go get eaten by warrior-kun Takeru
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>>140382266
>>140382357
Takeru deserve being vanished out of existence now that i think about what have he done.
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>>140381993
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>>140381993
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>>140382598
>>140382629
Yes I am
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>>140382701
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>>140382357
>you can hear the part where her heart breaks
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>>140382225

I can't really tell; I only ever saw it in reference to having been developed in tandem with the XG-70. We don't even know for sure if it actually had the same Moorcock-Lechte Drive as the Valkyrie; I base the assumption that it did on the real life use of the same engine and the fact that it was intended to operate alongside the XG-70. Considering how the Type-00 did trying that, it seems like it wold be necessity.

It should be noted that the Rapier never even got as far as the Valkyrie in real-life; the XB-70 at least flew before ICBMs killed both of them.
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Yui, Inia and Cryska are my waifus.
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>>140382701
I still don't get what you are doing. How do you dispose of Seamen on somebody?
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>>140383131
Inside of those slavs
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>>140382473
MLA takeru has such shit taste

this is why UNLI verse takeru has superior taste compared to his ALTERNATIVE self
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>>140383077
>multiple waifus
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>>140383077
>multiple waifus
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>>140383395
You have nothing to worry about.
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I want to crack Sylwia's tough emotional shell, and become her friend.
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>>140383470
I applaud that
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>>140379555
Hopefully. Worse case it could be just a less shitier end when they mention the VN having "different" endings.
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>>140381608
>acknowledging in front of Lise for the first time that you knew about the rock baby, among other things.
>"You knew all of this, and yet it didn't bother you?"

I wonder if that ever really sank in, or has sunken in, for Lise. That anon literally knew EVERYTHING about her and what she's done. And yet he still supported and fell in love with her anyways.

I can see this being an in-bed conversation in the future.
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>>140383462
There are no words to describe how hard I want to jam it between her motherlands and later cover them
>>
Cryska would spread her legs if you tell her that having children is a duty all women in the Soviet Union should do.
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>>140383593
>I can see this being an in-bed conversation in the future.
Would teasing her about it be too cruel?
Like saying "it was a misunderstanding, no need to grab the rock" during an argument?
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>>140383593
Not even Theo knew what wacky shenanigans LN Lise got up to. She didn't want him to know. Thats a pretty big deal to be accepted by someone who understood from the very beginning.
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>>140383721
CUTE BOY!
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>>140381608

You arrive at the duplex and begin to go through the motions of getting the party started, preparing food, welcoming people as they arrive, et cetera. These get-togethers are an important part of life for the mattress people. Life can get overwhelming for them. Lise is not the only one that has had problems with survivors guilt, and it is important to check up on everyone often, at least once a week but preferably once a day. Inghild and Beatrix have become close, because they're the two girls with a bun in the oven, and they have tips to trade and experiences to relate. You check in with Walther and Jurgen and Irisdina. It's important that you get Lise's parents settled into a job and a home relatively quickly, and it might take a little bit of work because unlike the younger men who have lived their lives as soldiers, you can't just throw Mr. Hohenstein a manual labor gig and expect him to get his shit together.

Of course, it's also just fun. You're not the most social of people, and it's nice having a circle of friends that goes out of their way to include you in everything. And, considering that you may have overstated how much exercise you were getting, it's nice to have the group runs. And then there is the girl across the lawn, who is excitedly introducing her mother to some of her friends, including a girl she had once shot to death with a 37mm round. Lise was the first to arrive here, and the slowest to adapt. Watching her reconcile with old enemies, and be reuinited with old friends, has been intensely gratifying. So too, has it been to help her knit together a heart that had been brutally broken, possibly in a literal sense with a round of 9x18mm. Amazingly, she seems to have already put the morning's discussion behind her, and is now glowing as she shows her parents her new life.
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>>140383649
Sandek doesn't want his imoutos spreading their legs to random strangers anon.
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>>140383842
>Of course, it's also just fun. You're not the most social of people, and it's nice having a circle of friends that goes out of their way to include you in everything. And, considering that you may have overstated how much exercise you were getting, it's nice to have the group runs
Nice projection
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>suddenly cryskabros out of nowhere

I thought you guys died or something.
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>>140383733
That's because anon can get into her head and knows what she's thinking. Theo for all his siscon tendencies would never be able to read her mind.
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>>140383717
There is a line onii-chan.
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>>140383871
>Nice projection
Lad the healanon is literally writing a shameless self-insert, realism is a must.
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>>140384175
Yeah and that line is bashing a babby's head in with a rock lmao poor lise
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>>140384223
>Beatrix finally gives birth
>Lise would you like to hold the baby?
>Lise?
>Hello?
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>>140384175
Be honest, would you ROCK SMASH if you and your family were at gunpoint?
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>Gretel will never confess to you

why life
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>>140384365
They'd get killed by someone else if I refused, no reason to add myself and my family to the deathcount.
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>>140384369
Find your own Gretel.
Told you: east of Berlin, there are some.

Go too far east and there are mountain lolis.
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>>140384365
Well, yes, but it would probably haunt me for the rest of my life.

Why would I want to be reminded of it?
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>>140384643
Maybe they'll be kind enough to let you get plastered so you don't remember a thing.
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>>140384643
Healing is time plus comedy
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>>140383842
>And then there is the girl across the lawn, who is excitedly introducing her mother to some of her friends, including a girl she had once shot to death with a 37mm round.
>So too, has it been to help her knit together a heart that had been brutally broken, possibly in a literal sense with a round of 9x18mm.

These things are really disturbing if you think about them.
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>>140385032
Don't think about them.
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Anyone else like how Lise is becoming the most drawn SM now, both in fanart?

Seriously, the pixiv page for Schwarzesmarken is just full of Lise now.

tfw the official Birthday pic reveals that she's the true luv for Theo
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>>140385798
Feels good.
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>>140385798
She's got a good design, like Beatrix.
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>>140385798
>Lise
>popular
This makes me angry
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>>140385798
Solid character design, adorable personality (when not broken), tragic story that makes you sympathize/heal her...

It's pretty much asking for support.
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>>140385989
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>>140385989
rebels pls go
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>>140385989
There is very little point in being angry over such trivialities.
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>>140385798
Beatrix and Lise are the true loves of SM. I think that they'd be the only girls whose love would be strong enough to transcend reality in the event BETA rape and g-bombing.

>>140385989
She's always been in the top three.
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>>140386051
>>140386054
>>140386056
You are all fallen men.

How can you like this demon?
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>>140386118
She's cute and 200% loyal.

Dumb question.
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>>140386102
>She's always been in the top three.

What I don't understand is Japan's obsession with Sabe- Iris.

Is she interesting in the source material?
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>>140386118
Beatrix is mah favorite, but Lise is a close second. She's as cute as Katia, but is interesting and funny and can pull of sexy when she feels like it too.
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>>140386239
She's the main heroine of SM, and gets a ton of spotlight. Add to that that Hiroki and Carnelian are huge Irisfags, and it becomes obvious why. Luckily for us, Mimizuki and Kouki are Beatofags.
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>>140386118
There is something unquestionably endearing about a person who is willing to put themselves through hell unending in order to save/protect the one they love. Doubly so if the person in question is a cute girl whose normal personality is being cheerful and bubbly.
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The lack of smashed sex buttons in Schwarzesmarken leave me disappointed.
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>>140386157
Nigga she will kill you if she thinks that will save Theo.

She is a blind wild dog which is not loyal to you.

Put her down now.
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QUESTION

I am trying to get a friend to read the main series and I've almost succeeded.

Can anyone point me to a download of Extra/Unlimited stat?
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>>140386407
Good thing I don't have to worry about her killing me.
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>>140386389
Picrelated source, please.
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>>140386350
Meant for >>140386193

I need to go take a nap or something.
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>>140386525
It's from that one Jurgen/Lise CG set.
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>>140384329
Wow! She fell unconscious standing!

As expected of the Stasi mistress!
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>>140386428
Just go to Erogedownload, or track down the highest seeded torrent on Nyaa, this isn't rocket science.
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>>140386350
Thats a pretty even split between creators. What about Tashiro Hayato, the director of the VN?
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>>140386630
No idea. Maybe a Lisefag considering how best she is in the VN.
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Just finished Meiya's route in Extra. Literally what a ride.
Takahashi was really a bro.
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>>140386753
I guess we'll find out depending on how the routes go.
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>>140386796
He is in that special tier of bro that stands above other bros. we know this tier as GOD tier.
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>>140386753
What madman though it would be a good idea to give those massive tits to such a tiny frame?


I want to shake his hand and kiss him
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>>140386907
Unfortunately her impressive growth is probably due to the Stasi playing a bit too much with them while she was in puberty.
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>>140386796
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>>140387126
If I was a perfectly normal and healthy human bean I'd find the image repulsive.
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>>140386907
That would be Theo. She simply learned of his tastes from a young age and adapted.
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>>140387253
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>>140365526

This is boring. Stop watching.
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>>140387126
Jesus, how much playing around did Beatrix get?
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>>140387319
I'm pretty sure Jurgen massaged her boobs many times with his face.

How much back problems would she have though? She's huge.
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I want to marry Irisdina.
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>>140387253
How would a young preteen girl in Best Germany find a way to make her breasts grow bigger?
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>>140387512
Move to Worst Germany and eat a lot of GM food junk.
All hail Capitalism.
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>>140387253
>Iris in the old porn mag
Damn, Theo knew that he was aiming at
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>>140387707
>Iris
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>>140387763
Are you telling me Lise was a porn model at that age already?
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>>140387763
You arr rook same
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>>140387763
Lise was like 10
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>>140387293
Fucking saved.
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>>140387812
>>140387823
>>140387830
Hey hey I'm just pointing out who it looks more like.
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>>140387923
For me it's Iris.
Lise was pure
Also
>blitz
Bad name for a porn mag
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>>140388021
Sometimes you just want your fap session to be over already, Blitz is a fitting name.
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>>140388085
Call it blitskrieg then
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>>140388195
The struggle isn't enough to be called a war.
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>>140387763

Lise without her ribbons and fake smile makes me want to teach her how to smile genuinely again
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>>140379756
For the sake of argument for a second, there are many greater AIs in Fallout than Liberty Prime.

Or we can even switch gears. EVA has been around since 1995, and even Red Alert (roughly 1960s) had a rough AI.

CABAL was also around in late 90s
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>>140388608

That's not the point, you commie traitor. Besides, the XG-70 is war bigger than the previous Liberty Prime platform, so we can add more auxiliary processing blocks.
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>>140381908
Yes!

>>140382114
It's true though. Objectively the worst.
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>>140388608
CABAL had some great lines. And EVA was more of a expert system and comm system than full AI.
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>>140386796
GONNA GET YOU LIKE A SPACE BOY WOAH OH
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>>140383842
Quite the healing I must say.

...

...

You didn't tell them where Theo is.
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>>140388293
>tfw she was just pulling Anette and Katia's hearstrings here

That drama club experience really paid off for her. Couldn't have gone into a more suitable profession in a communist police state.
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>>140389189
It's not necessary to hurt them.
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>>140388932
>The sacrifice of the many is but pleasure to the few
https://youtu.be/bHqsHRwUDzM?t=3m29s
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>>140383842

A few weeks after that, Beatrix gave birth to a baby girl who was of course named "Annaliese." Mrs Hohenstein fell into the role of mentor and advisor. The Hohensteins were now living in the second unit of the duplex. Irisdina and Pham, and Inghilde and Marco, respectively, had each moved into nearby two-bedroom apartments, since they were making enough money to afford separate rooms, now. Inghilde had the second room in her own home set up as a nursery for the baby she was expecting. Jurgen and Beatrix, being cheap and eccentric, chose instead to stay in the tiny studio they had called home for so long, despite the fact that Beatrix was probably making the most money out of everyone.

Lise's reaction to the whole affair was troubling, to say the least. In normal circumstances, she would spend several hours a day with her mother, or Beatrix, or both. Now, she carefully avoided them. When she heard they were coming over to your place to visit, she grew visibly worried. The two women she loved the most, along with the newborn named after her, welcomed themselves into the living room, and sat down on the couch. You felt someone pressing herself into your back, and realized that Lise was positioning you between herself and the baby. Beatrix looked at her friend.

"Lise, would you like to hold the baby?"

Lise grimaced and shook her head, on the verge of tears.

"I'm sorry. I don't think I can."
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>>140388845
Don't get me wrong, I adore Liberty Prime. I'm just telling our other anon LP is not even the extent of their AI's power in that world.

>>140388932
Well she is those too, but it depends on how you interpret it - she seems to have full learning capability. She's very capable of formulating complex ideas (not just calculations), and giving an assestment. Granted, her parameters can be adjusted (hence her immense concern for lives lost as a GDI version), but otherwise she's mostly given over to thinking like a person. They even ask for her opinion on some occasions (though that was more Tiberian Sun era EVA). Her personality is sort of still being evolved, so for now she's very matter-of-factly.

Truth be told, she's actually more of an AI than CABAL is. CABAL isn't exactly machine only.

>>140387375
Have fun with a fundie.

Nah don't worry, she's actually pretty dirty minded. Bea was more innocent minded in the old days.
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>>140389866
Wait Beatrix was pregnant?
>"I'm sorry. I don't think I can."
Jesus christ you actually went ahead and did it.
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>>140389866
You just had to do it anon >>140384329
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Anons, I want to get into this series, but I can't find a torrent for Extra and Alternative that still has seeders, and going to erogedowload to download 200 MB pieces from a filehost is ewww.

Anyone know of a working torrent?
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>>140389866
Maybe while you're all a bit drunk, you can ask about the turmoil of the clan? Namely, if these two are possibly related? Ax literally looks like a younger, more devious papa Hohenstein.
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>>140389866
First simply being in the same room as the baby, then sitting on the same couch, then direct contact by saying hello, then physical contact by holding its hand, then maybe picking it up if shes ready. Baby steps anon.
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Delicious Gretel's armpits
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>>140389866
Beatrix's baby better have red eyes and black hair like her mom.
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>>140389866

You eventually coax Lise onto the couch, where she sits on one end with you and Beatrix between the baby on her own mother's lap. A slow wave of realization washes over the faces of the other women, as it dawns on them what Lise is feeling and thinking about right now. They realize that even being in the same room as a newborn is tough for Lise. Still, Mrs. Hohenstein in particular wants Lise to grow more comfortable around small children. After the literal rude awakening with which she was introduced to the world, Mrs. Hohenstein has accepted your relationship with her daughter, but demands her pound of flesh, or rather, her seven pounds, six ounces of flesh in compensation. This has yet to be discussed with Lise.

You managed to get Lise onto the couch in part because it makes her feel safer, squeezed into the cushions, with your arm wrapped around her thin, trembling body, and the ability to look at the television, which is off, and not at the baby sitting mere feet away from her. You speak gently into her ear.

"It's OK, Lise, you're doing really well."

She nods silently. On the other end of the couch, her mother is staring down at the sleeping babe. Beatrix stands up, and moves to Lise's other side. You scootch her over to give her friend enough room to sit down. This has the effect of getting her closer to the child, but the real point is so that Beatrix can grab the pair of hands fidgeting in Lise's lap, and squeeze them lovingly. Beatrix smiles at Lise. Lise is glad to face her, because now she is staring in the opposite direction of the baby on her mother's lap.

"It's OK, Lise, you'll get through this. You can do it."

She looks back down at her lap, at Beatrix's hands holding her own. You lean in close, speaking just loudly enough that only she can hear you.

"I love you."
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>>140391368

Unless....
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>>140391368
I dunno anon, I think her black hair and his blue eyes would make a killer combo.
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>>140391427
MOM SHE'S TOO YOUNG FOR A BABY
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>>140391591
Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed.
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>>140391654

>Beato and Jurgen
>Iris and Theo
>Inghild and Marco

OR hilde is another Beato/Jurgen daughter who strangely enough, sounds exactly like her mother.
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>>140391697
First she must stabilize her mind before she can become a mother.
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>>140391980

based on several women I know that isn't even a little bit true.
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>>140392038
A *good mother.
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>>140392038
I'm thinking what's best for everyone, any moron with functioning ovaries can become a mother, but that won't make them a presentable mother.
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>>140392090

Very true, most of their kids are fucking trainwrecks.
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>>140368595
Godspeed anon.
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>>140392038
>>140392038
There was too much ketchup that day.
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>>140392250
>when you're trying to explain to your family why you're holding your stomach while looking at a bottle of ketchup
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>>140368595
>>140371477
>>140372670
>>140373762
Welcome to the fold brother. Your following action may include:
>feeling like a zombie for the next couple of days
>thinking about your life so far and what you have achieved
>not having anyone close to you to share your new experience
>feeling like you are in funeral state as half of people you grew close to and got to know for the past week are dead
>having an empty void in your heart and soul for the rest of your life
>in time you will come to hate what you experienced only to later come to have bitter-sweet memories about the said experience
>you might think to yourself "I wonder, in my last moment on this earth will I remember 207B?"
> Will I remember Meiya?

>>140378104
>>140382357
Best girl, she didn't deserve this.
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>>140392414

I'm sure anon transitioned to Annies organic HFCS free ketchup.

though desu i'm not sure if that isn't a real trigger for vets sometimes.
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>>140386796
>>140386883
>>140387140
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>>140392932
Jesus fuck anon.
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>>140392932
>>140393155
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGL_u4mDn-4
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>>140392932
I actually like old Meiya.
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>>140393401
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>>140386796
>>140389013
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>>140391427

Eventually, Mrs. Hohenstein and Beatrix leave, along with the baby. Lise had managed to relax a little bit, engaging them in idle conversation about their lives. Still, Lise wouldn't look at the baby, and the few times the conversation turned towards it, like when her mother couldn't help but tell Lise about the remarkable similarities between it and herself at that age, or Beatrix complaining how Jurgen can sleep through anything, and how she's always the one that has to get up to care for it at night, Lise grew quiet as she withdrew into herself.

You're sitting alone on the couch with Lise. Neither one of you has moved since the others left. Surprisingly, you didn't see her shed a single tear the entire time. Thankfully, neither did the baby, which was asleep. The caterwauling of a newborn infant is specifically eveolved to affect human adults, and you're not sure how Lise would have found herself affected.

"I want to be okay some day, too."

"Just give it some time."

"I can't be friends with Beatrix unless I can be around her baby, and I want to be a good aunt and.... maybe I want a baby a little bit, too."

You take a deep breath through your nose. She looks up at you, smiling sweetly and giggling for the first time since the others arrived.

"Not right now, of course."

You let out a sigh of relief. She's been picking up more shifts at her job at the bank, and has even enrolled in night classes to try and work towards a degree. While you're sure that she'd get tons of support from her friends and family, Like Sylwia, who is also waiting until she's better established herself here, you would prefer if Lise waited a little while. Of course, you aren't ready for kids yourself.
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>>140393468
She is look nice, but now unique. Gundam hair was a great addition imo.
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I think the lack of Jurgen ruined this anime. He's a fucking huge character and the fact that his ideals were never explained really hurt Beatrix's and Iris's characters, along with bringing down much of the final arc. It's like a gaping hole in the anime and is nonsensical if you have an anime only perspective on things.

Really, if Watanabe was competent, he could've used the post-credits from episode 11 or pre-OP scene from episode 12 to insert a quick flashback scene. I've seen some extremely moving, revelatory scenes in anime that have been no more than a minute or two long. It doesn't even have to have dialogue, just visuals and music can get the point across. Alternatively, they could have a scene of Beatrix listening to Jurgen's recordings as she hugs herself in a corner (basically, adapt the preamble scenes of BiS; it'd even be a good way to market it). It'd be much better than Iris and Beatrix arguing about shit we know nothing about.
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>>140393401
It nice and fitting but nothing beats the original https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAXEMvIHtT0
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>>140394145
>"I want to be okay some day, too."
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>>140394145
Console her by watching Cromartie together.
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HELP

LISE GOT STUCK IN MY FRAMEBUFFER AND WON'T GO AWAY
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>>140394354
I envy you. Keep her well fed and dry.
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>>140394354
Theo pls go
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>>140394354
Ye Gods, it be a sign.
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>>140394145
How long until they find out Ax is alive again?

How long until he starts trying to fuck with them, especially when he sees Jurgen and Beatrix? Will he nefariously try to kidnap their kid? I doubt he'd be willing to bury the Axe, so to speak.
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>>140394354
Oh you're fucked anon, 7 days from now, Lise from the anime timeline will hunt you down and will give you a wide number of STDs run for your life anon! run!
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>>140394354
You know what to do anon
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>>140394462
She's like 5 feet tall, I can take her.
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>>140368529
/SS/ here
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>>140394210
>Really, if Watanabe was competent, he could've used the post-credits from episode 11 or pre-OP scene from episode 12 to insert a quick flashback scene
>if Watanabe was competent
>Watanabe
>competent
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>>140394405

he got shuffled off to another parallel universe, there's no respawn in RL.

also how long until he gets locked away for having a baby browning in New York City?
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>>140394354
Enjoy it
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>>140394405
If anything I don't see Ax fucking with them, he's always wanted power more than anything else, and now he's in a prime spot to get it by offering his services to either investment bankers in Wall Street or to politicians. This is the west after all, Capitalism is king and that means money rules.

If anything, he'll dismiss them like rubish and continue on his climb to power ala Frank Underwood. just expect to see a lot of spittakes when he's running for office someplace and the cast catches a glimpse of the new candidate promising to "Make America great again"
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>>140394665
I think Axmann hates Jurgen enough where he'd come after him. Remember, Jurgen is the only person where he really made things personal.
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>>140394783
>during anime, mostly Iris art
>after anime, only Lise art

Feels good.
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>>140394816
Sooner or later, they all come around.
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>>140394879
>birthday pics with male protagonists only ever show them with the "canon" true love
>takeru drawn with sumika
>theo drawn with lise
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>>140394354
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>>140394561

/SS/ is here?
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>>140394981
feels smug
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>>140394145
Wait, wasn't Lise already pregnant?

>"I want to be okay some day, too."

;_;
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>>140395307

Naw, she got an IUD installed when she went in to see if she tested positive for anything. I let her get knocked up in one of my writefag stories where she's in the insane asylum but even the academy story had her using beato as a surrogate because she was all messed up down there.
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>>140394405
>>140394636
>>140394665
>>140394783
Parallelstories anon here, Ax is not in their world (what we may even call real life). It sure looks like ours, but we'll see what differences come up. Also, maybe he's gonna try seeing how this being a good guy thing works out.

The Presidential campaign may be dog eat dog as all can be, but for him, it's nothing compared to the Stasi. Especially as he isn't in some backbiting low energy loser campaign like Yeb!'s.

Speaking of that, it's also a different world again from Suffering Theo.

>>140395251
You might like one of the next stories down the line
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>>140396175

Not gonna lie. Iris is pretty cute. If she showed up in my bed, I'd definitely convince her to cosplay as Celia from Walkure Romanze
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>>140396246
>Celia

my negro
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>>140396716
why not?
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>>140396716
Variations?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U67MRAPKXzU
Kebab shells 2fast4BETA
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>>140396892
nice
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>>140396892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKli72vTPmE
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>>140396246
One nice thing about Iris is that her design is so derivative so it's easymode to find hentai with a lookalike and imagine you're fapping to her.
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>>140396950
Even better!
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>>140397025
They should've just hired a hentai artist to adapt Carnelian's designs. Would've been better than what we got in the anime.
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>>140397025

It's also easy to find videos and pictures that can stand in for Beatrix.
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>>140397100
Annerose is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
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>>140397025
>tfw I fap to Homura/Yukiko/Ooyodo as proxy Gretel's
Besides fapping to Gretel
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>>140397091
But Carnelian does hentai.
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>>140396950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXmv2pskP_c
THE LION OF DAMASCUS WILL LEAD US TO VICTORY
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>>140397174
Yeah, that's why you'd need another hentai artist to adapt her designs for the anime.
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>>140396716

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28354340

>Who are you?
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>MEANWHILE

"Report...presumably final ESA colonist module will be departing in thirty minutes..." droned a voice from the comm systems.

It was a cool summer in South Africa, but then again, much of the world had cooled since the BETA wars. Everywhere along the spaceport, there was hustle and bustle. Agitated voices in Afrikaans collided with a variety of Englishes. And for this particular launch, a hubbub of Eastern European accents. This was after all, the final hurrah of the true believers communism in the world. Most of the people here were refugees many times over - the European Socialist Alliance had after all been formed in the wake of the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, and the BETA cutting off their nations from their master in Moscow, inadvertendly setting them "free".

Gretel sat on the tarmac taking a break in front of her Atlas Cheetah TSF. While most of their "citizens" - Gretel spat the words - took any chance they could to flee their glorious socialist paradises and join the bourgesies oppressors in Europe, joining with them, a few of the true believers at least made it out. For her, there had been then no negotiating, joining with the imperialist fascist puppet Germany like Katia had wanted. Even the stalwart USSR, had finally collapsed in the wake of Red Shift and agreed to be annexed by the filthiest oppressors of all, the Americans.

No, they were the true Germany, the true communists. With her Polish, Hungarian, Romanian, Czechoslovakian, Bulgarian, and other exile comrades with her, they would carry on someday, in some land.

And now that the UN - really, the US at this point, she thought bitterly - had decided to "reward" them for fighting for so long with a spaceship of their own, they could make it to some new planet, and start the dreamt of paradise from scratch.

All they would have to do is hold the line for a bit longer, in this reactionary hellhole that was Southern Africa.

"You Reds'll be off then?" asked a vaguely British voice.
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>>140397100
Hi!
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>>140397025
Is this an Irisdina clone?
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>>140397474
No Martin?
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>>140397859
Yes
>>140397865
The writefag hates Gretel,so don't expect nothing
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>>140397859
Pretty much a 1:1 copy. All the Japs over on Futaba are convinced she's an alternate universe Irisdina.

http://futalog.com/401144811.htm
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>>140397865
No Martin.
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>>140398005
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>>140398005
>>140398038
Who is this semen demon?
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>>140398029
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>>140398005
Her rival/enemy even looks like a cross between Gretel and Beatrix.
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>>140398038
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>>140398075
>a cross between Gretel and Beatrix
>mfw

Beatofag where are you
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>>140398058
Some random hentai chick.
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>>140398074
exactly
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>>140398148
And it's amazing.
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>>140398233
My dick cannot take it so much
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>>140398196
Title?
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>>140398005
The resemblance is uncanny.
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>>140398075
>>140398233
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>>140398330
Stay jelly
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>>140398348
Blondes get combos too.
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>>140398322
Irisdina is my wife
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>>140398387
Be a good husband
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>>140397474
Even aged slightly as she was, Gretel had changed little. The new only seemed to be a few soft lines on her face, and silver streaks in her hair. Premature aging was going well for her at least. Oh, and an even more gigantic ass. While she was sensitive over it, Martin at least liked it.

Gretel looked up to face a slightly elderly, bearded man in a fortified suit coming to her. Unlike her black and purple suit, his bore the dark green with white gel of Rhodesia.

"Yes, fascist scum." she said, stiffening but smiling. She had known for decades about the power and brutality of the fascists in south Africa, and even after the years of grudgingly hosting them, tensions existed. But the BETA had ways of making even ardent enemies get along.

"It is good you still have your cheery disposition about you Gretel! I'm fraid you're going to have to move once again. I hope it will at least be the last time, wherever that is."

"We can hope, Ian...Why don't you come with us though!?" she asked suddenly, sadness breaking her stoicism. "South Africa is running behind on their own ships, they were too busy making others for what's left in Africa. There might not be enough left for all..."

"Aye, so it is. Still, you ought not get too absorbed in our fate"

"We can still fly..."

"And do what? Even all these decades later, you're still shit at TSFs. And Martin is even worse, poor boy is stuck in administration!" Turning grim, "It's best if you get out now."

"But then don't we have a duty?!" demanded Gretel, defiantly.

"No, because it's faith that keeps us now, not duty, my godless friend." suddenly breaking into a huge smile "Go on! Get going, you damned Red! You and Martin have a world to make! We'll keep them north of the Zambezi. Just remember...Rhodesians never die!" he finally said before turning around.

"Ian...why are you doing this? So much, for us?" Gretel asked, tearing up.

Ian Smith turned around, and weakly smiled. "I always was...a bit of a rebel."
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>>140398075
>>140398233
Good God, I hate Gretel, and this is making my dick do funny things.

Maybe it's the hair in her mouth that shows how insane she is. I love it!
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>>140398837
>hating Gretel
out
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>>140398757
>Rhodesians never die
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>>140399069
>Nap-Of-Earth we'll fly our course

The original laserjagd

;_;
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>>140398757
>Gretel with an even fatter ass

Yeah, that's what I want.
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>>140399069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBVDdr3wqm4
Never5get Rhodesia
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>>140399109
>You will never kill laser class with a FN FAL.
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>>140398757
>TL;DR Gretel and the commies died on the way to the socialist utopia

Can we move on please
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>>140399257
Why live
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>>140399320
indeed
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>>140399257
Delete that.
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>>140399767
Why?
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>you will never hold hands with Lise
>you will never look at her face and see her smile at you
>you will never try to count stars at night together
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>>140399988
>you will never hug lise as she cries while you put the makerov against her head.


You dont shoot your sister every day my friend. Only once in your life.
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>>140398322
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>>140400105
The only thing I'd shoot her with is my dick.
Consensually.
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>>140400224
You sick bastard.
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>>140399801
Why not?
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Woah didnt know the ps3 version has takeru with voice.
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>>140400340
The flu?
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>>140400997
Who is that?
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>>140401054
Gretel preparing for some action
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>>140384599
>mountain lolis too far east

How does one even acquire one these days? Aren't they too rare?
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>>140386796
TDA version when
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>>140401083
>wanting a currynigger or anything nearby
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>>140401081
webm it
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>>140398757
>Gretel is still shit at TSFs
This amuses me for some reason.

>Ian Smith being dadbro for Gretel
;_______________;

>>140399279
Why are you of such little faith?
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>>140401198
You got it
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>>140401267
Because he hates Gretel, I already told you
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>>140401279
win
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>>140401378
Ground Gretel stronk
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>>140401425
Indeed.
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>>140401142
Fortunately for the rest of us, despite being able to have just about anyone he wants, Pasta proves to have better taste than you.

She probably alternates between being raunchy as fuck and dere as all hell in bed.
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>>140401325
But he seems to be giving her a happy ending. It's implied many other spaceships made it out successfully, right?

If anything, this seems to be OldWalken suffering, not Gretel. Why not just see how the ride goes?

>>140399988
Make a tulpa and you can!
>>
>you cant find a walktrought with the ending of alternative anymore

I dont want to play again,i dont want to feel again help!
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>>140401718
>But he seems to be giving her a happy ending. It's implied many other spaceships made it out successfully, right?
Don't be fooled by that
Look, every other character so far has shown some kind of change, here Gretel stays the same and even she is in a pre-Operation Neptune state
I'm not expecting anything good to happen, so when it finally happens I will not be let down

such is life for a Gretelfag
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>>140401718
why is he sad?
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>>140401932
The car is destroyed
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>>140401980
Not insured?
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>>140402043
Insurance companies don't sell BETA related insurances
>>
Every girl I liked died.
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>>140401932
>wants to die
>wants to follow his family in the afterlife
>picks the missions that has high casualty rate
>survives
>still brings freedom
walken have a hard life
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>>140402147
Welcome to muv luv, enjoy the despair ride
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>>140402165
There is always the suicide option
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>>140402147
You can still bully Katia.
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>>140402147
Welcome to Muv-Luv, enjoy your stay.
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>>140402243
Even the Katia bullies left
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>>140402302
Is Katia the Sumika of SM?
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>>140402221
can't because he promised his son and wife that he won't do such cowardly thing and that he would like to die along with the TSF that he would have passed towards his son
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>>140402362
There is the option of charge against the BETA and go down in a blaze of glory
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>>140402325
I bully Katia because she's so cute and innocent I want to break her in ways Ketchup didn't even dream of, not because I hate her like Sumika.
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>>140402427
B-but I like Sumika
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>>140402460
consider suicide
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>>140402417
he already tried that during the norad recapture and JFK Hive arc

well then he still survive
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>>140402486
;-;
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>>140402507
Try on the moon Walken
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>>140402563
all the shuttles are destroyed

cant go up there now

even a nuke can't kill OldWalken till he ends his time
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>>140402679
I want to steal her glasses and call her a boy
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>>140402486
Considered. Rejected.
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>>140402751
shame
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>>140402679
THE CUTEST.

THE BEST ASS THIS SIDE OF THE DDR.
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>>140399988
Theo lays on the damp grass next to his new step-sister. The two had played all day with her cousins at the villa the Hohenstein family visits every summer, and after a big extended family supper the two snuck off into the night to be alone for the first time the whole trip. Not that her cousins weren't fun to play with too, but he never felt better than when it was just the two of them. Her hand reaches over and firmly grasps his while she sits up and tugs at his sleeve.

"Hey, brother, they're gonna notice were gone. We'll get in trouble if they can't find us."

He doesn't answer, his eyes instead stay lost in the starry sky.

"How many stars do you think there are?"

"What? I said we should go inside, c'mon."

Lise starts lifting him up by his arm but he remains limp on the ground. He can be so stubborn sometimes, often she ends up having to use force.

"lets go, I'm cold. I don't have a jacket like you and my hairs wet."

She gives up trying to pull the much larger boy on his feet and brushes the matted hair off her face.

"Just a few more minutes"

He won't acknowledge her plea, refusing to stand on his own. She huffs and feels her cheeks burn hot.

"No! its cold and I'm wet and I don't wanna get in trouble.. and mom's gonna yell when she sees me covered in mud."

When pushing and pulling doesn't work, she can always resort to tantrum throwing. She pouts her lip and starts to summon the tears.

"Come on, come with me.. please."

Theo snaps back to reality when he hears the first hiccuping sob.

"Okay, okay. No.. Lise don't. Stop that. Lets go."

He knows if they return with her face red and stained with tears on top of her already wet and muddy blouse he'll be more than just yelled at. He takes her hand and begins to walk her back to the villa, towards the brightly lit windows and smoking chimney, where his knew family awaits. He felt her small soft hand in his, and knew this was one he never wanted to let go.
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>>140402781
You, I like you
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>>140401917
That's quite a victim complex you have there, comrade.

Gretel dreamed of a Germany, a socialism for the people. As a Gretelfag, how could you discard her dream? She never gave that dream up, even after Neptune. That just seems like friendly banter to me. Why can you not embrace the hour of the future, like your waifu did?

As a Phamfag, I say to you - even if the others did not, why can't she believe in the promise? If you cannot believe in her, then how can Gretel have the strength to make her dream with you?

Have faith. The future belongs to those who dare to dream!

>>140401932
The sadness of a father who had to bury his children. Such is war. In hope of the better day.
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>>140402781
I don't see any evidence of that.
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>>140401718
>>140401932
i hope TDA 04 comes out soon

i want to see him die in a blaze of glory
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>>140402824
Fake.
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>>140402563

That might work, except we'd be required by law to give him one of these.

Fully armed and operational, of course.
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>>140403035
I want it.
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>>140402325
Nah, it'd be split between either Beatrix or Lise. The author even stated that Beatrix's theme was true love (even if it was twisted), much like Sumika.
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>>140403137
I guess Lise, like Sumika, gets obliterated by her 'true luv'.
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>>140402835
It's the reality
My waifu despite been number 3 in quantity of scenes in the VN. She will not have a route in Martyrs nor in Extra (whenever that comes), gets fan art every once in a while and when there is some writefagroty is shit like this
That should make me upset and sometimes it does. But it also makes me appreciate whatever I can get about her
And you are missing the basic point, he repeatedly stated that he hates Gretel and is going to write accordingly to that
Also she is going to get shat on by the animeonlys when the VN is translated

And yet despite all this I love her with all my heart
My waifu,right or wrong
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>>140403137
goosestepping nazi eh?
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>>140402901
Here is the proof
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The cutest.
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>>140403194
Animeonlies love her though.
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Ketchup did nothing wrong.
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>>140403244
The cutest.
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>>140403205
I want her to step on me.
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>>140403265
They are going to reverse that when they read the VN
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>>140403278
Only if you believe in the Just World Hypothesis like many redditors and offsiters seem to.

>>140403331
It's more likely that they'll be shitting on Beatrix and Lise though.
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>>140403426
No, I believe that having cute girls raped and mindbroke is a good idea.
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>>140403477
>No, I believe that having cute girls raped and mindbroke is a good idea.
Nigga fuck outta here
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>>140403426
I don't think that Beato not been portrayed as retarded evil or Lise been a victim is something bad
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>>140369215
>"I just like listening to people" Axmann said in his most pleasant voice.
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>>140403470
>>140403470
>>140403470

Autosage. New Thread?
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>>140403517
Wasn't implying that it wouldn't be. I was just stating that Beatrix and Lise are going to take the heat off Gretel and be the hate sinks for most people.
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>>140403642
But why?, I mean they are going to be shown in a much greyer tone, and maybe just maybe the animeonlys will realize how bad adaptation the anime was
Or perhaps I'm hoping too much
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>>140403642
>hating on the best two girls

Absolutely appalling.
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>>140403731
The LN version of Beatrix is both nicer while willing to do way worse. Lise is the only one who they made flat out more evil. Both are far more sympathetic either way though.
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>>140403840
>Both are far more sympathetic either way though
That's the whole point
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>>140403840
Anime deletes all the mitigating circumstances so things are way more clear cut. That's the main problem. Their actions are the same, but the way the anime chooses to portray those actions or purposely obscures motivations (like muh Jurgen, or Lise's whole deal) makes them seem pointlessly evil rather than tragic figures. Jap LN readers didn't really feel good about either Beatrix or Lise dying while the anime crowd celebrated it.
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>>140403992
>while the anime crowd celebrated it.

I'm still salty.
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>>140394145
>"I want to be okay some day, too."

This cuts deep onii-chan.
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>>140404050
The whole Jurgen thing should have been expounded upon. The AOs don't get it, so cling to the much simpler theory that Beatrix was just femHitler trying for a power-grab. The anime also implies that Beatrix was controlling Axmann the whole time, which is completely wrong.

Lise's changes are even worse. Her character and motivation is just all over the place. It doesn't help that the anime turned her into a highly selfish yandere rather than a girl driven mad as her one light is ripped from her and she's torn between two families.
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>>140404319
th-thanks Watanabe
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>>140404378
I know 12 episodes is a huge constraint, but there were very effective shorthands he could've used to better establish characters or at-least imply depth (certainly can't have depth with just 12 episodes).
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>>140404479
He wanted to do a good vs. bad story which is totally not the point of SM
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>>140404525
Well then why even introduce muh Jurgen? I know it won't induce much sympathy (mostly because people who don't know about BiS won't know what the fuck is going on), but why even have it.
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>>140385798
No!!! Katia forever
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>>140404613
To point out where does Beato gets her ideals
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>>140404660
Where the hell have you been
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