Kiznavier

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Next episode, love triangle with the [strike]esdeath ripoff[/strike] blue haired chick.

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>>140225217
>het confession
So much for this being different. Now the only hope is that nothing ever comes from this except her pining for him and him giving zero fucks all the way to the end.

no fucking shit

this show kinda sucks honestly

all of these characters are terrible

>>140225217
>>140225385
>streaming
>[strike]
Fuck off faggot.

What is this shit about

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Thought the episode was pretty good, I liked Nico's meltdown a lot and the entire ending scene from the crane onward was great. Very sweet confession which is fucking cruel since obviously Chidori is gonna get bullied hard in this show. Also the whole bit in the morgue looked awesome. I haven't seen anyone really mention the character acting in this show but I think it's stellar, the designs are detailed but they're expressive as hell. Tons of personality.

>>140225582
trigger + danganronpa

it's bad

>>140225385
Get the fuck out underage /co/tard.

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>>140225530
Eh, I see glimmers of hope

like how the girl was pretending to be eccentric and one of them killed someone

6/10 so far. Let's see how it goes. Not drop-worthy.

>>140225539
I don't know how to strike text, sorry

>>140225730
>I don't know how to strike text, sorry
Don't and fuck off already.

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>>140225710
Well.. I made the thread so.....

Not happening

>>140225582
Enslaving people to each other to prevent conflicts, while simultaneously ignoring human personal psychology in favor of trying to enforce a false collectivism via Pavlov. Why they didn't just beat that blue-haired bitch to death with their bare hands because she's not one of them as a display of how easy it would be to wreck this entire project is beyond me.

>>140225838
>Enslaving people to each other to prevent conflicts
Sounds very Japanese

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The confession scene was kind of annoying. Did she really have to jump next to him and risk their lives?

And the MC is still the worst character.

Nico and Tenga are my favorites so far.

>Mari Okada show
>Expecting anything besides melodrama and crushing disappointment
Only 10 episodes left, thank fuck

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>>140225385
She reminds me more of her than Esdeath or Senjougahara.

>>140226007
You're projecting, anon.

>>140225593
My nigga.

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>>140225593
Personally, I really liked the background shots of the city under construction in the crane scene.

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So this is OTP right?

How am I suppose to self insert when MC is an even more boring faggot than myself?

>>140225431
Kill yourself.

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Hang on, who loves who?

>>140226428
I thought the MC taking no interest in anyone else because he has no interest in himself hit pretty close to home for me.

The OP is the only thing I like about this shit.

>>140225217
You were surprised about the most obvious thing about her personality being revealed? Wow, ok. Sure.

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What did she mean by this?

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Yuri confirmed

>>140226487
He loves her
She loves him
He loves somebody else

>>140226350
The city has a cool look, I dig the whole "under construction" thing they had going on with all the cranes and scaffolding and stuff. Like obviously they're in a condemned building, but also it straight up looks good. Lens flares off of the red construction lights were great.

This episode was goofy. I hope it stays goofy.

>>140225593
So the girl brushing up against Honoka in the ED, is the girl she killed?

the only thing good so far is the art

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>>140226652
>it is also said that marigolds symbolize cruelty, grief and jealousy

The premise is still not hooking me in. I'm feeling zero excitement watching the show. will continue watching but expectations are really low

>>140226428
>boring
I don't understand this viewpoint.

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>>140226570
>>140225431
>>>/u/

>>140226599
>>140226698
Yeah, I'm just staying for whatever funny scenes it has and the art.

It looks really nice.

Reminder that they get superpowers in episode 3

>>140226760
Think of it like this: Imagine two of them having sex. Imagine the whole team feeling the pain of the girl's hymen breaking, and the intense orgasm.

Doujins fucking when.

>>140226840
Source?

>>140226777
There's nothing to understand. "Boring" happens in the viewers head, not in the show. It's basically a description of one's mental state rather than a valid critique of said show.

>>140225431
This

Episode 3 is the beginning of the main plot, but I would rather the show stayed silly a while longer. Oh well.

>>140226810
To be fair, /u/ is for discussions. /cm/ and /y/ are not.

>>140226428
This is one of those rare high school dramas where your not supposed to self-insert as the MC. His behavior is purposefully alien. We'll have to wait and see what the show does with that.

>>140226857
I'm not sure if that's true but they said that the main story starts in episode 3.

>>140226857
Some /a/ post I read last week

>>140226849
already done by Sense8 and that's not gonna happen in the show. I need canon sex or my dick won't budge

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MakoNui a best

The ideas are there, I think the translation/writing is really messy and the direction is a bit off. If it wasn't trying so hard to be a trigger show with the over the top eccenticness and reactions, it'd be better.

This is the kind of show where every character arc should make you feel something (if it can pull it off) but so far there's a couple of characters who are complete jokes.

>>140226857
Conjecture based on the creators saying that episode 3 is a turning point in the series, and I think there was one drawing from an animator passed around where the muscle guy was depicted with superhuman strength.
I think the picture (don't have it, sorry) won't happen but some kinda enhanced cooperative or telepathic abilities or whatever wouldn't surprise me.

>>140225802
>.....
Fuck off.

>>140226849
The pain doesn't come from the hymen breaking, it comes from the girl not being relaxed/aroused enough to properly accept the man's member into her vagina.

>Okada has evolved her shitty melodrama to the point that the characters had to give their biggest secret/defining trait and the childhood friend's entire personality is literally "I love MC-kun!"

I'm convinced that Okada is actually sitting at home laughing her ass off every time she gets hired to write something, because she writes everything as poorly as she can on purpose and yet some idiots still think her works have good character drama.

>>140227043
I mean, they can already receive directions from Sonozaki via their scars. It isn't out of the realm of possibility for them to communicate among each other with their scars as well.

>>140227025
>If it wasn't trying so hard to be a trigger show with the over the top eccenticness and reactions, it'd be better.
I agree. A lot of the 'whacky' character movements are annoying and remind me too much of KlK

>even a slap continues to hurt them
Im still bothered by how clearly the pain isnt being divided. How the hell would simply feeling the same pain have saved MC in the last episode?

>>140227063
The hymen breaking is painful as hell too, although I suppose it depends on the person.

>>140227021
>looks like the girl behind the radiator from eraserhead

>>140225730
>one of them killed someone
I know she said that but it's probably just going to be she couldn't "save" her friend.

>>140227147
>"I used to love MC-kun!"
ftfy

>>140227147
>romantic melodrama is bad
when will this meme end?

So red isn't even in contention. That is good.

>>140227161
They can also shoot confetti, quite the loaded tool.

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DROPPED

Okada's writing really isnt for a show like this, where the characters need to be likeable enough so the audience cares about them and their bonds.

She should stick to shows like mayogia, where the point is watching people die so their onedimensional annoying personalities are fine, we dont have to care.

>>140227322
Fuck off Peter.

>>140226428
It's the perfect self insert for those "oh woe is me nobody understands me" teenagers that this show is the target demographic for.

>>140227147
So do you think Tenga's defining trait is being afraid of dogs?

So the answer to preventing wars and stuff is torturing people until they tell you what you want to hear? That's the point of this experiment?

>>140227328
I like the characters though, and I've liked characters in other things she's written.

>>140227328
Okada is one of the best in the industry at writing likeable characters though.

>>140227348
>he likes fakes

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>>140227162
HOLY MACKERAL!

A TALKING BEAR!

>>140227043
>>140226965
>>140226959

Oh, ok. Yeah, I wonder what kind of missions you could send ordinary teenagers on without any kind of enhancements.

Is this another one of those ''director tries to ram his/her view on how to live your life down your throat instead on focusing on making it entertaining'' kind of show?

>>140227322
see you in another kiznavier thread tonight.

>>140227437
You take away the fairy thing and she is still the same. So I'll repeat, fuck off Peter.

>>140226566
Think she means that she doesn't believe in fairies.

>>140227533
Not at all, at least not at this point.

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That shadow rides up.

>>140227271
>Contrived melodrama that favors standing and screaming confessions and ostentatious feelings towards your partner after getting trapped in love polygons is better than more natural dialog and character growth and a relationship that develops over time as a result of said character growth while complementing the other aspects of the story and tying into the other ideas built up in the story
I want teenage girls who think romantic melodrama isn't bad to leave.

>>140227410
It was pretty stupid, but I think the point was more "I act like a tough guy, but I'm a huge pussy." than "I'm afraid of dogs."

>>140227436
That's very, very wrong.

>>140227533
There isn't any real philosophical point in Kiznaiver so far.

>>140227577
Trigger must really love girls in shorts.

>>140227577
>it's a black hole
What is the deeper meaning behind this?

>>140227533
I've found it entertaining so far, so I'm gonna say no.

>>140227577
>shadow
Those are black panties

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>>140227533
Oh it's on its way

>>140227162
But it fits in KlK as it fits in Inferno Cop and it fits in Luluco. It doesn't fit here.

They don't establish most of the characters as trigger characters and the ones they do are quickly becomming stereotypes in triggers shows. The ones they don't are basically copy pasted from Anohana.

>>140225802
>>140225385
>>140225730
Kill yourself, retard.

>>140227328
>She should stick to shows like mayogia, where the point is watching people die so their onedimensional annoying personalities are fine, we dont have to care.
The problem is that the director is the one who wants to make Mayoiga a funny "kill them all" horror show. Okada is doing what she always does, and this director is smart enough to utilize her bad writing to make funny fodder characters. Okada isn't the type to write stories like that on her own, she genuinely thinks she's writing good characters.

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I want that charm.

>>140227677
>copy pasted from Anohana
Who? What

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>>140227663
I mean, we can pretend.

I liked the second episode. It was fun for the most part and I am glad they settled the love drama right from the get go.

>>140227663
>implying shes a slut like Nico

>>140225217
This episode was better than the first i guess. I'am Chidori already confessed to him. Will keep watching

>>140227768
>they settled the love drama right from the get go.
Serious question, how stupid are you?

>>140227697
>subtle marketing for a line of charms based on the main characters

Who is the target audience of this anime supposed to be?

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>>140227577
Whoa. So this is the power of Trigger.

>>140227768
>he thinks it's over
The MC just can't feel pain, I'm sure he'll start acting more emotional soon.

It's going to be a girl who loves the guy who doesn't feel anything versus the girl who loves the guy who does feel things.

>muh deep dark secrets

>me scared of dogs
>me parents are rich
>me was fat
>me in love

so much edge potential ruined this episode

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Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrttttttttt

Mad Dog-san is gay, isn't he.

>>140227778
Nico is pure!

>>140226756
So she's totally a lesbian, right?

>>140227843
Yep that is Triggers quality face.

>boo hoo I'm scared of doggies :(
>I'm normal :(
>I used to be fat :(
>I had a crush on a boy when I was younger :(
Wow I feel so emotionally invested in these characters.

>>140227832
Like all anime, young boys.

>>140227881
>potential

>>140227960
Hopefully.

>>140228006
>:(
Fuck off

>One of the kids in the group actually killed someone
Well having them all tied to a murderer in a failed attempt at getting people to understand each other through an absolutely retarded experiment would be entertaining. Can't have that. Guaranteed it was some circumstantial bullshit where she didn't actually willingly kill the girl, and the big scary experiment actually works as it was planned and they all understand each other better because of what amounts to a giant group shock collar.

>>140228006
>I used to be fat
He will also start balding

>>140226420
She's gonna die alone

>>140228056
If she did actually kill someone and they know that and have evidence for it, they should be carting her off to prison, not using her to save the world.

>>140228052
>I get mad when people use emoticons mockingly >:(

>>140228079
How else do you stay pure?

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>>140227887
Sceleton party

>>140227881
How is any of that edge potential? The only one that had any true edge potential was

>I killed a person

Also her secret wasn't about having rich parents, it was about lying about being weird.

Thinking about this episode, it kinda breaks one of the unwritten laws of storytelling; show don't tell. It sets up a premise where the characters just have to tell the viewers straight up what their character is about. The show lacks finesse, which is par for the course for Trigger, but at the same time it's holding back on the white knuckle joyride trigger is good at. I don't think Okada and trigger is a good match. early days still they could turn it around.

>>140227832
people with taste

>>140228109
>The people who abducted children and performed highly illegal surgery on them are concerned with the law
Seriously?

>>140228146
spooky

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>We did it Rust, we finally are Kiznaivers

this is a goofy comedy, literally nothing edgy here
what the fuck

>>140227681
>this director is smart enough to utilize her bad writing to make funny fodder characters.
I think you're projecting your own biases onto Mizushima, I doubt he thinks that way.

>>140225593
Thanks anon, you made this thread good for me.

>>140227328
>People dying is the only way to make a show interesting

I don't want a show to resort to that.

>>140228177
>it kinda breaks one of the unwritten laws of storytelling; show don't tell.
Is this your first Okada show? Screaming out your feelings (either while crying or in the rain or something equally melodramatic) is par for the course for her.

Two episodes in and people are rating this shit already. We dont even know the plot.

>>140225217
I like this MC i can relate to him. I also don't care about anyone. except for my family and myself but my friends can rot in hell for all i care

>>140227824
She confesses and he is happy. There isn't much more to obsess over.

Maybe this show is trying to be fun and not 3deep5u with love triangle drama where the childhood friend gets rekt.

>>140227877
>I'm sure he'll start acting more emotional soon.
He already did over Chidori, he was sorta happy and that inspired him to redo a self introduction. He will get more and more into her as time goes on.

> girl who loves the guy who doesn't feel anything
Who?

>>140228182
I doubt they'd want a genuine murderer in that group.

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>>140228177
>it kinda breaks one of the unwritten laws of storytelling; show don't tell.

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Honoka is Mondo

>>140228254
>I think you're projecting your own biases onto Mizushima, I doubt he thinks that way.
Right, because Another and Mayoiga are super serious character dramas played straight.

Watch the first 5 minutes of episode 1 of Mayoiga and tell me that he's not doing this on purpose.

>>140225217
Shitty episode

I wonder what happened to that anon that was convinced that Chidori didn't love Kacchon and that the hints were a red herring.

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The colors and lighting in this show are pretty fuckin' great.

>>140228146
Who is that with a skull on their hip?

>>140228311
>Maybe this show is trying to be fun and not 3deep5u with love triangle drama where the childhood friend gets rekt.
I physically burst into laughter reading your post.

>>140228405
Niko. That's her bag.

>>140228405
They gave a skeleton to Nico's little fairy pouch.

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>not watching simply to see Trigger draw pretty pictures
plebeians

>>140228405
Nico. She has what could be a frog head on her belt.

>>140228273
Nah , i have seen most of the Okada essentials. Nagi-asu and toradora were pretty slick though i don't care much for sakurasou and True tears. Nagi-asu, for example, was much better at showing and not telling honestly

>>140228352
heres your (you)

>>140228389
even if you only watch chinese cartoons you guys are still impressed too easily.

>>140228305
Same here, I also have a wicked sense of humor

>>140227832
People in highschool.

>>140226849
Now imagine anal

Trigger and Okada gattaing to the form the force that saves anime.
Its glorious. Kyoani wishes they could be this cool

>>140226698
Yeah.

What's there to happen in this show? It's going to be just 1 cour right? Pathetic that they wasted two episodes introducing characters.

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>>140227881
Why are you talking like Iyami?

>>140227830
Nice desu.

Why do you think Honoka killed a girl?
Place your bets now

Wow, why is everyone pretending this is shit when is actually a pretty decent and promising show so far?

First episode exposed nicely and second developed the characters, and if it felt "forced" (I don't like to use this meme word) it was literally because they were FORCED to do so, I still don't care about them but this dynamic helped to save us from the irrelevant "building friendship" episodes. You can't be distant when everyone know your more shameful secret so this was a pretty clever move IMO.

Also I don't think 12 episodes is necessarily bad for this. Because we'll probably have all the cast in every episode due to missions and pain sharing and they'll be revealing themselves in a equal way.

Pretty good Trigger, you had my curiosity, now you have my attention.

>>140228346
I'm sure a lot of the comedy is entirely intentional, but I don't think his opinion on Okada is as you suggest.

>>140228478
>Nagi-asu, for example, was much better at showing and not telling honestly
And it still wasn't good at it.

>>140228525
Imagine fucking one up the ass and having the pain transfer so you feel your own dick going up your ass.

>>140228562
Some contrivance involving homosexuality.

>>140228562
Jealousy over something or other. Maybe a boy.

>>140225217
How the fuck does okada keep gettnig away with all this shit?

>>140228562
most likely because they were friends and she failed her in some trite way, which lead to her death.

I think everyone's perception toward this show would be better if it wasn't hyped like it did.

>>140228434
Admit it, it would be fresh if the love drama just got settled and it was going to be fun. Chidori has won him over as far as I see it.

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>reveal the one thing you wouldn't want anyone to know
>fetishes/sexual interests are never brought up

I would've gotten the whole group killed.

>>140228566
>Wow, why is everyone pretending this is shit when is actually a pretty decent and promising show so far?
Because those people don't have piss poor standards.

>>140228562
She didn't, probably an accident or she didn't save her.

>>140228579
>Need a bunch of ridiculous, inhuman characters that people can laugh at and not have any emotional attachment to when they die, so it can be played off entirely for laughs
>Hire Okada to write them
Nah, I think the guy knows what he's doing.

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>>140228566
>Pretty good Trigger, you had my curiosity, now you have my attention

>>140228562
Didn't her flower in the ED represent jealousy?

>>140228562
She's a yandere lesbian that went crazy when her crush fell in love with a boy

If I had to sum up this anime in two words it'd be

Trainwreck

>>140228566
>It was supposed to be forced
>IMO
>you had my curiosity, now you have my attention.
I don't care where you came from, but go back and stop posting on /a/.

>>140228659
Pretty much.

>>140228734
How?

>>140228664
>it would be fresh if the love drama just got settled and it was going to be fun.
I never even remotely implied anything to the contrary. I agree 100% Okada can't write serious character drama to save her life, but if it's all just going to be over the top humor, it can be enjoyable. I'm just saying that will never happen.

>>140225593
Pretty much how I felt about the episode.
I'm used to confessions having tons of arbitrary build-up so Chidori's didn't have as much impact. However it set up the character development of the MC later on pretty nicely. I'm looking forward to him warming up and opening up to his fellow Kiznaivers.

>>140227832
idealist teenagers who don't understand the world.

>>140228780
Everything about it is forced and contrived

>>140228734
would you use that word to sum up every anime this season because it seems like that's what people are doing

So have Chidori's chances at wearing the cuck hat at the end of the series decreased after this episode?

>>140228842
So all of the "thinkers" at Trigger?

so sonozaki and katsuhira is the only romance ending that makes sense right
sonozaki is trying to find her own pain or self and she can only find it within katsuhira

>>140227832
15-16 years old

>>140228711
>Her victim was a yandere lesbian that went crazy when she fell in love with a boy
FTFY

>>140228698
Marigolds represent a lot of things but with the whole 7 deadly sins thing she could be envy.

>>140225217
Non-embarrassing secrets:
> being afraid of dogs
> having been a landwhale
> having murdered a person
> having loved someone
Embarrassing secrets:
> being an edgy wanker
> being a chuuni
For fuck's sake, I threw up in mouth when those two were speaking. Awful.

>>140228842
>he's not a physicist
>thinks he understands anything

>>140228562
It's probably gonna be like they had some sort of argument/falling out and then she died and that's why "she killed someon."

>>140228671
But you tell people your sexual fetishes online all the time anon. These are things they wouldn't even say online.

>>140227887
Edit them with the anime-electrocuted effect

>>140228177
>breaks one of the unwritten laws of storytelling; show don't tell
That happens in tons of anime.

Usually happens in shitty anime based off LNs though.

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>>140228960
>>140227887
This version.

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Episode started out pretty weak imo. Weak premise.

It picked up by the end though.

I'm just hoping the rest of the rest of the series isn't "do what we say or you're fucked" because that'd be really boring

>>140228954
I'm sure they would all confess their secrets if they were Anonymous.

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>>140228895
This
It's like people don't any words other than "comfy" or "trainwreck" when they want to describe a show

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>>140227887
ill do a skeleton for one of them with other motifs from the ep on it for variety

im gonna rewatch the ep and get back to it after

>>140228277
>two episodes in
>nothing happened

Maybe that's the problem anon.

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>>140228566
I feel sick reading this.

I mean I'm really liking the show right now, but this is just cringe in written form.

>>140229031
This with them as skeletons

>>140228942
You should be embarrassed over being scared of dogs.

>>140229049
don't know*

>>140225217
>I liked it though, it was cute
Now this is what I call Tsundere

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>>140228460
>236x236

Here.

>>140229058
gl anon

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>>140227887

Everyone wearing these helmets.

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>>140229058

>>140225217
>/a/ becomes kiznaiver
>has to reveal their darkest secret

What is yours?

>>140228985
just because it happens a lot doesn't mean it's excusable. There are shows that don't make this mistake.

>>140228806
There is no reason to inject DEEP into this, they can make a good, strong message without it. She has written so many love triangles maybe she is just going to not have one. Love triangles involve feelings being kept a secret (Oregairu, WA2, ect.) but never when they are in the open so prominently.

>>140229125

I think we're going with electrocution.

>>140229141
I want to fuck Honoka's dead girlfriend.

>>140229049
>comfy
But nobody is using that to describe a show. "Comfy" is a state of mind, so they're basically saying "I enjoyed it". As long as they elaborate why, then I don't see the problem.

But this show and some others are clearly reaching a little above and beyond, and it's easy to see how they can fail and come crashing down.

How does Trigger ALWAYS manage to make the best girls? Is it magic?

Nico best girl of the season by the way.

>>140229187
Fuck you.

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After the first episode, I wasn't quick to jump on the exposition hate wagon, I thought it had a lot of potential, with an interesting premise.
Some anons claimed the first 3 episodes were a prologue of sorts, with source from the studio, staff etc.
Finding it that it's only 1 cour is honestly worrisome. Three fucking episodes for a prologue, to introduce the setting and characters, out of 12. That's a third of the entire anime, enough for some anons to drop it on the 3 episode rule.

But this episode honestly didn't bode well. Hearing about the "each Kiznaiver has a secret" beforehand, it sounded interesting.
This entire episode was honestly a contrived "get to know each other" plot, masked by looming danger which everyone who isn't a retard knew wasn't serious.
The whole danger subplot just felt stupid and ridiculous, it was beyond obvious how trivial it would be, they even did the countdown at 1 second before stopping cliche.
I was expecting episode 2 to introduce an ACTUAL mission, something to risk their lives on. Instead we get this contrived pretend mission with obviously no stakes, in order to give forced character development.
They could've lengthened it out over time, give each character an episode to overcome their secret, with the help of the others.
But instead they decide to dump all the character traits and personality on us in one episode, like they dumped the exposition and world-building on us last episode.
We even got a fucking confession for fuck sake, which felt underwhelming and obvious. Chidori's character has absolutely no depth now, her obvious crush was her entire character.
The other issue was the secrets themselves, because they ranged from important character defining and interesting, to mundane and who gives a fuck. Pretty underwhelming in general.
So far his feels like episode two: meet the characters of the prologue, rather than episode two.
It's shame really, the direction, art, music and VAs are all on point.

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>>140229260
>How does Trigger ALWAYS manage to make the best girls?

>>140229260
you misspelled worst right after Nico anon

>>140229141
I enjoy watching Fairy Tail.

>>140229040
>The ridiculous over the top comedy was weak
>But once the melodrama kicked in is started getting good
Kill yourself.

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>>140229260
>Nico best girl of the season by the way.

>>140229141
Sword Art Online was once my favorite anime.

>>140229260
All girls named Nico are usually the best

Not best girl of the season at all though, that title goes to Machi

>>140229141
Admiting to my family that I post on /a/

>>140229080
I was almost bitten in the face by a dog when I was little. If any wanker tells me IRL to be ashamed of a phobia, I'm going to fucking break him.

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>>140229374
>Admiting to my family that I post on /a/

>>140229260
>Nico best girl of the season by the way.
God no, she's retarded, dimwitted, and disgusting. Red is best, get some taste, honestly. You sound like the "15-16" demographic for this show.

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I want to make Nico feel all tingly.

Worst art and animation of all the original series, worst art and animation of this season actually.

All the characters are shallow stereotypes and their character drama is bound to be uninteresting or over the top edgy shit.

Main character can't feel pain do to super DEEEEP edgy traumatic experience he was forced through just because.

Another weak reactive main character who can't move the plot on his own, so things just happen to him, literally other characters move him from one plot point to the next and he has no clear motivations/goals.

His just another uninteresting dead pan character with white hair, we be better as a side character desu.

The idea that sharing wounds will some how bring about world piece is absolute pretentious garbage, holy shit who wrote this.

Overall 3/10, worst show this season by far. I rather watch mayoiga, at least that show won't take itself so seriously so I can just laugh at it.

Also esdeath little sister totally isn't the same bitch that the mc knew in his past but tragedy + amnesia(classic) back story made him forget.

>>140225217
What a cringefest.
Where's the EDGE?

>>140229204
>There is no reason to inject DEEP into this, they can make a good, strong message without it.
Again, I agree. Okada is a bad writer, and anything other than some absurd comedy will end up being bad. I'm just saying I don't think it'll happen.

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Second episode was great and confirmed my optimism for the show. Can't believe people doubted Trigger.

>>140229141
I have only one person I consider to be a true friend.

>>140229424
>>>/v/

how much would it suck if one of them got hit by a car

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>>140229416

>>140228562
Its probably just an accident and the dead girl rescued Honoka and died in the process or Honoka could have theoretically saved her somehow.

>>140229141
Honestly can't think of one.

>>140229402
She's canon perfect, literally confirmed this episode, and she isn't even uptight about it since she makes herself look worse to not stand out, literally the best.

Deal with it.

>>140229248
>But nobody is using that to describe a show. "Comfy" is a state of mind, so they're basically saying "I enjoyed it". As long as they elaborate why, then I don't see the problem.
I saw you do this shit in the last thread. You crossboarders really need to stop trying to sound smart. Comfy is used as a translation of 癒し系 and it is very much a term used to describe shows.

>>140229458
I would have liked it more if Chidori had a darker secret rather than having a stupid crush on MC.

>>140228079
Good riddance. Seriously I can't stand her so far. I hope they do something to develop her character.

Unfortunately even with this episode which was supposed to help us get to know the characters, nothing resonated with me. Episode 3 will be the determining factor whether I put it on hold and worse forget about it. I really wanted to like this series but there's nothing that grips me.

>>140229455
A broken clock can be right twice a day.

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>>140229496
>Honestly can't think of one.

>>140229416
>Worst art and animation of all the original series, worst art and animation of this season actually.
You're not even trying.

>>140229141
Probably just my fetishes.

>>140229416
I love this pasta. Thought it was forgotten.

>>140226566
Are u actually retarded?

>>140229141
Ive never liked anime, not even once

Kiznaiver prologue:

Episode one: Exposition and world-building/setting info dump, the episode.
Episode two. Meet the characters, their traits and secrets, the episode.
Episode three:

What do you think will be episode three, some anons mentioned superpowers. Of course we know it will be 100% forced tell don't show, with random trigger style interactions.

>>140229378
What if he has a dog? Fucked there aren't you lad?

http://myanimelist.net/manga/97635/Kiznaiver

Wow, just wow

TIL that Kiznaiver isn't even an anime original

Just how far has TRIGGER fallen?

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>>140229378
Tenga has a fairly noticeable scar on his head. It's probably the reason he's so afraid of dogs.

>>140228671
>Kiznaiver is based on an original TV anime series of the same title created by studio Trigger.

>>140229543
I can't say I share your optimism. IBO just finished airing and we're already getting one other Okada intentional comedy this season. The odds of this one not trying to be deep and mature (Trigger loves pretending their stuff has some deeper themes beyond the sex jokes and violence) for the message at the end are really low.

>>140229623
Oops, meant to quote >>140229602

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>>140229602
you can't be serious

>>140229623
Meant for
>>140229602

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Am I the only one who thinks she's build for anal sex?

>>140229353
>slapstick comedy is funny
Underage pls go

>>140229548
Like I wouldn't want my mom to know my fetishes but like they're not really embarrassing or anything. I don't have any kyaa~ I wanna die!! secrets.

>>140229597
You have me there, eh.
>>140229615
Shit, no fucking wonder he ran like hell. I would've climbed up the walls if I were there.

>>140229594
If we go with the manual next would be introducing somebody bad guy/rival team.

>>140229671
I want to cuddle with her and smell her hair.

>>140229679
>Slapstick comedy isn't funny
>But contrived melodrama and teenage angst is interesting
Found the teenager pretending to be an adult.

>>140229679
Not even the same anon but Nico meltdown was pretty fun, same with Yuta reveal.

>>140229671
Built for missionary position, leg locking and taking responsibility.

>>140229316
>So far his feels like episode two: meet the characters of the prologue, rather than episode two
But like others have pointed out, getting this out of the way now saves time later. It'd have to be in there somewhere anyway, so why is it bad now? Unless you prefer more subtlety.

>>140229733
I bet she smells like cotton candy.

>>140229623
>>140229659
>>140229660
>>140229664
top laff

trigger fanboys out in full force tonight

>>140229745
>taking responsibility
She's too much of an airhead

>Red loved Kacchon when he was little but doesn't anymore
>Red says she liked young and husky Yuu-kun better than the him now
Maybe she is a shotacon.

>>140229727
There won't be an antagonist. Next episode will reveal the "real" goal of the project, and the girl Honoka "murdered" will be used to highlight some important aspect of it.

>>140229797
> not being a shotacon
SS is worse than coprophagia, though.

>>140229741
Like i said leave the adults are talking here

>>140229744
Nico is the only slightly funny thing about this show

But them getting the answers wrong and being zapped repeatedly was painfully unfunny

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>she sees your dick

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>>140229671
Best girl. Red isn't too far behind though.

>>140229799
Saved, will post once the raw for the next episode goes live.

>>140229870
More like
>She exposes her dick

Honoka > all

I know this isnt the point of the series but I always feel put off when seeing anime pushing nips way of society.

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>>140229745
>taking responsibility
What does it mean for a girl to take responsibility?

Is this a good or bad thing?

Does it define her character as a person in its entirety, or rather only her femininity?

>>140229141
I watched Boku no Pico for the story. I never touched my dick.

When hate posting is longer than praise posting, you know the show is doing well.

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>>140229897
Correct.

>>140229846
Might want to learn how to write a proper sentence in English before you pretend to be an adult. I know you're still in elementary school and they haven't taught you complicated things like capital letters or punctuation, but you'll get there eventually. Now run along back to school.

Anyone else forcing themselves to like this?
I had it marked as one of the big 3 trainwrecks, alongside Kabaneri and Mayoiga.
I can't help but force myself to enjoy it and hype each episode, even though It always feels underwhelming. Unlike the latter two, which are genuinely fun trainwrecks.
It has everything which should work, Trigger, Okada, good OST, decent plot idea with potential etc.

Yet why is it that this episode was really bland, everything that happened was forced for the sake of it, forced character development, forced interactions and a forced confession. Not even using it as a buzzword, but the entire episode was actual forced development.
All for the sake of "getting it out of the way early so we can focus on more interesting stuff".
This is literally a failure of storytelling. They're can't subtly give us hints, world-building, character growth and depth as it goes on, we need to have it all in one fucking episode.
It's a new low for Okada.

>>140229870
>everything is fine and we all passed the test
>I know, how about I reveal something for no reason
I hope we see her naked and and taking Nico's fist.

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>>140229900
You do realise that it's the US that's strange among industrialised countries for rejecting collectivism, right?
> mfw Europeans repeat tired Yank memes about Japan that apply perfectly to them

>>140229885
>Saved
Why? It's obvious as fuck.

>>140229799
Well ok if theres no antagonist, then your right.
But not having an antagonist actually worries me then.
Kind of implies they are going to focus on mission of the week stuff where all characters suffer but then end up saying how they like the Kizuna system.

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>>140229958
>criticizing grammar on an anime imageboard

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I want to marry Maki.

Damn lads, this isn't even one sixteenth as hype as Kill La Kill

Imaishi needs to team up with Gen Urobuchi to make a Kill La Kill Prequel showing how Mako lost her sanity

>>140229797
She still likes him fampai, she just wants him to come back.

>>140227843
My city now.

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>>140230022

>>140230033
They're different types of shows you stupid shitposter.

>>140229966
>trainwrecks
I stopped reading here.

>>140229141
I bought lube just for the chance to fuck a homemade fleshlight i made using a latex glove, tape, half a pringles can and two sponges while watching a supergirl porno where she gets futa raped by another girl villainous wearing a strapon. It was all live action,too.

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>>140229745
>Built for missionary position, leg locking and taking responsibility.

Keeping it hardcore, anon.

>>140230033
>Damn lads, this isn't even one sixteenth as hype as Kill La Kill
How is that a bad thing? "Hype" anime tend to be terribly written and uninteresting yet overrated because muh hype.
Imaishi is literally forced hype

>>140230007
>Kind of implies they are going to focus on mission of the week stuff where all characters suffer but then end up saying how they like the Kizuna system.
Yes. And then the grand keikaku will get revealed as the MC's tragic past is revealed. That's exactly what will happen.

>>140230013
Enjoying your first week on /a/?

>>140230033
> Gen Urobuchi
I still don't get why people like him and at the same time pretend like they possess any taste.

>>140229316
>give each character an episode to overcome their secret, with the help of the others.
The point isn't to overcome their secrets, it's about being honest with each other to deepen their bonds.

>>140230108
Watch Gaim.

>>140230033
We already got the Mako prequel from Sushio's twitter.

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>ep1 - plot exposition
>ep2 - characters' secrets revealed
That's kinda lame.

>>140230108
Because people know him for more than the projects he started and then left for some other idiot to ruin like Gargantia and Psycho Pass.

>>140229594

7th Kiznaiver must definitely be introduced. Otherwise there's not enough time for him to become a main character. I think the episode will revolve around him. Also maybe they can get superpowers only if there are 7 Kiznaivers/deadly sins.

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>>140230108
I'll take the bait Anon

What did Urobuchi make that warrants calling his fans "devoid of taste"

Even his less notable works, like Gargantia, can at most be called slightly dull

He's never made anything at the level of, say, Aquarion Evol, which is pants on heads retarded

>>140229378
>I'm going to fucking break him.
you sound like a nigger

>>140225217
More than likely dropping this after next week. Sad, really wanna like this but there's no passion here.

>>140229966
Kabaneri and Kiznaiver aren't trainwrecks. They're legitimately good shows

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>>140230013
Proper grammar is of the utmost importance if quality, consistent discussion is to be facilitated. You're in violation of the rules, and a detriment to the quality of this board. If you refuse to participate, you can fuck off to wherever you came from.

>>140229966
Its the cognitive dissonanz of both being obviously TRIGGER and yet its like some kind of textbook production.

>>140230069
>okada
>not only writing trainwrecks

Honoka > Chidori > Nico > School Counselor > Noriko

>>140227697
Is that an Android?

>>140230275
Back to 3rd grade with you yourself la where they taught you that shite was important

>>140229141
I pretend to be a girl online for gratification

>>140229141
I masturbate to anime.

>>140228146
Tenga's hair has bones.

>>140227322
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WepSpYTU1F0

>saying that the writing is flawed because the character building was forced
>when it was forced to happen in-universe, because the writing wanted it too
People can't actually be this retarded, right? If it was done explicitly on purpose, it cannot be a flaw. That goes against the very definition of a flaw. It was not a defect, it was meant to be that way. It was not an imperfection, the writer wanted the character to be forced to build their own characters, they did so perfectly.

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>I am afraid of dogs!
>I don't believe in fairies!
>I was fat!
>I loved you!
>I feel happy about being a Kiznaiver!
>I KILLED SOMEONE
Wew lad

>>140230233
None of them are trainwrecks so far. No, not even Mayoiga.

>>140230179
Madoka, Saya, and Zero were the worst animu-related things I ever watched/read, and I mean it. The man is completely incapable of writing stories that possess any kind of internal logic, and all of his characters are awful hypocrites, and you only know the protagonist among them because Urobuchi likes to suck his own dick in his descriptions of the features he would like to see in himself in them.
>>140230210
> What did Urobuchi make that warrants calling his fans "devoid of taste"
As I said, Madoka, Zero, and Saya.
> He's never made anything at the level of, say, Aquarion Evol, which is pants on heads retarded
I know that for some reason people watch his stuff holding their breath, so they don't notice all the ridiculous nonsense he pulls, but Madoka was so stupid I punched walls watching every single episode. It was like lobotomising myself. Urobuchi is the worst writer in the animu industry ever.

>>140229464
Lucky you.

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> Honoka Maki
My deep secret is that I feel shame every day because I'm an edgelord with a mainstream JAV idol shit name.

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>>140230356

>>140230413
The only ones that hold any relevance now is who got killed and why, and MCs secret past.

>>140230084
Was it a success?

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>>140230337
I will not be intimidate by ESL shitters who're unable to even pronounce half the words they attempt typing, much less spell them.

>>140229671
I'am glad she isn't actually and autist. I ahte those type of characters and even more when they are girls

>>140230488
>Madoka, Saya, and Zero were the worst animu-related things I ever watched/read, and I mean it.
I am honestly not sure if you are baiting or not but this clearly just shows that you havent watched enough animu or legimately think that stuff like, say, Dragonaut is better than what you listed.

>so stupid I punched walls
I also dont understand when people like you feel this kind of emotional overreactions from fictional works.

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Having a homeless lgbt youth as a member of the main cast is very progressive for a Japanese anime.

>>140230617
She's still an autist, just not a crazy one.

>>140230578
> ESL
Just saying, but I'll take the stupidest ESL wanker over any EOP.

t. ESL wanker